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  1. Beginning in early 2021, I initiated contact with Iskall via Twitter, sharing a lighthearted story from one of his streams. He was my favorite Hermit, and his creation of Vault Hunters had introduced me to the world of modded Minecraft. His streams and videos provided me with an escape during the dark and difficult first year of the pandemic. Our conversations started naturally and grew into a consistent exchange. We shared similar humor and interests, and I looked forward to the easy, enjoyable conversations we had.
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  3. I did some research online about his relationship status and could not find anything, and he talked about living alone with his dogs on his streams, so I felt there was no reason to hold back when our jokes occasionally became flirtatious. A week later, he suggested we move our conversations to Skype, citing issues with Twitter and Discord. He told me his Skype was reserved for family and close friends, and that I had "sparked" his interest. He wanted to keep our communication private.
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  5. Over the next six months, we communicated regularly. Our conversations included a mix of personal sharing, flirtation, and discussions about our interests—ranging from our goals and dreams to our shared love of Minecraft and video games. Iskall confided in me about challenges in his personal life, and I did my best to offer advice and encouragement. He, in turn, supported me through my own struggles. Some of our conversations would last up to 12 hours, while most others were several hours of constant texting. While he occasionally disappeared for days or weeks, he would return with apologies that I accepted, despite feeling insecure. He made inside jokes during his streams and even in a YouTube video, which I believed were private references meant just for me. It led me to feel that we were building something deeper, even if we hadn’t explicitly discussed a potential relationship.
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  7. At the time, I felt fortunate and special to have someone I admired treated me as a friend and potential future partner. I allowed myself to believe in that possibility, though a few months into our connection, I learned that Iskall was also flirting with another woman. The two of us formed an unspoken bond over this shared situation, even joking that if anyone should end up with him, it should be one of us. We together decided to again investigate whether he was in an IRL relationship, asking some of his Discord moderators for confirmation but found no evidence of a partner. In hindsight, I understand that I justified my feelings with the thought that we had never explicitly discussed exclusivity and that we were all consenting adults. My feelings of jealousy and insecurity were clouded by my desire to believe in the connection we had. I was having fun with someone I admired and who had brought so much joy into my life, and I felt safe and wanted.
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  9. During our final conversation in August 2021, the discussion centered around a tragic situation in his life. He expressed gratitude for my support and assured me that once COVID travel restrictions were lifted, he would visit me. But after that, he disappeared entirely from Skype.
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  11. I waited for months, hoping he would return, but over time, I had to let go and move on the best I could. However, the pain lingered. I questioned whether I had done something wrong or if I simply wasn’t good enough for someone like him. I could not share this hurt with anyone. I continued to be a part of his community, supporting his streams and content, treating our interaction as something that had fizzled out and nothing more. For years, I remained financially invested in his projects, watching his content and contributing to his success.
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  13. I was blindsided when I learned the truth about Iskall's live-in partner, and the allegations of him pressuring others for sexual interactions, disregarding their attempts to ignore him. The realization that he had been deceiving me, while maintaining a secret relationship, left me feeling betrayed. I carried guilt for not speaking out earlier, especially when I heard rumors of him being flirtatious with others long after me. For years, I had believed his pursuit of me had been genuine, but now, I understand it was nothing more than manipulation.
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  15. It is difficult to confront the fact that my experiences with him were based on lies, emotional manipulation, and deceit. Reframing my memories, once filled with hope and excitement, as being exploited for his personal gratification has been a painful process. I’ve even questioned whether my story is worth sharing, and whether it is valid. But if my experience can help even one woman feel that her own story deserves to be heard, then sharing it will bring me some measure of peace.
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  17. In my interactions with Iskall, I consented to an honest exchange of feelings and the possibility of building a meaningful connection. I did not consent to being lied to, manipulated, and used at the expense of my emotional well-being or his partner’s trust. I did not consent to being the other woman.
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  19. My heart goes out to the other victims—his partner, their family, the Hermits, and the fans who are now grappling with the pain, betrayal, anger, and confusion that come with this revelation. I want to extend my gratitude to Kasszi and Mefallit for their courage in sharing their stories first. Your bravery in speaking out has made it possible for me to finally do the same.
Comments
  • Cryptids
    197 days
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    1. You're so brave for coming out and saying this. Your experience is entirely valid. You were lied to, thought he was single, you're a victim in this as much as Kasszi and Mefallit is
  • eagler5
    194 days (edited)
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    • BrightSunshine
      193 days (edited)
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      1. What sets Iskall apart (if him and EAGLER5 are different people) is that he would never have had access to so many people who looked up to him without his platform. That makes this an abuse of power. In a corporate job, personal behavior in private life typically doesn’t lead to dismissal. However, in this role, Iskall is in the business of monetizing his persona. In this case, fans and community members are directly swindled, hurt, and traumatized by someone they regard as special, often before he is even aware of their existence.
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      3. He’s not being “fired” because of cancel culture; rather, HC and VH are taking steps to protect members of their communities from experiencing similar manipulation in the future. This is about upholding the safety and trust of the community—not punishment, but prevention.
    • ThrGreatCookie7
      192 days
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      1. The definition of "Victim" includes being a victim of lies and manipulation. While no one was physically harmed a lot of emotional damage was done. This does, in fact, make the people harmed by this victims.
    • Anticoward
      192 days
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    • Anticoward
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      1. Eaglers
      2. You are just a typical trumptard that can't think for himself. The majority of us in the US don't claim cowards like you. It's no wonder you are ok with this type of behavior. Your all mighty leaders entire life is nothing but manipulation. Grow a pair and become your own man.
  • DemiDemiGod
    192 days
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    1. Why no one talkes about evidence? There is no good evidence against Iskall right now, just some words that we must believe to be true. Presented screeenshots are just some of-context mess (why Kasszi cut her replies?). If you worry about kids, so there are a lot of 18+ platforms where you can post your full screenshots. I can't believe your words just because you said so! My opinion can be changed if good evidence is presented, but right now I can only hope that Iskall will be alright, wish him all the best!
    • kusha06
      192 days
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      1. As much as I love Iskall’s content, he is 100% at fault here. If he weren’t, he’d stand up for himself when being questioned about the situation by the HC community rather than having resigned. Everything has been looked over by the hermits themselves and if it weren’t so serious, it would've been resolved internally.
  • FaeAura
    192 days
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    1. As possibly the tiniest part of the community, simply one small lurker and occasional chatter, my heart goes out to you and the others used and abused and I want to say you are heard and your feelings are valid.
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    3. I genuinely, personally, never expected to see this caliber of unprofessional misuse of trust to the fandom from a member of HC. I genuinely hope this is merely a case of one bad apple and seeing/hearing about the rest of the HC crew is handling this, I sincerely think or at least want to hope that is the case.
  • Vagenda
    192 days
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    1. Assuming everything stated is true - I don't endorse what Iskall allegedly did as moral.
    2. Assuming everything stated is true - I don't endorse what Iskall allegedly did as cool.
    3. However, I also don't see rejecting flirtations and promises as equal to victimhood, either.
    4. I'm troubled by the lack of clear evidence against Iskall, but I'm willing to weigh this assuming it's true.
    5. I'm also troubled by the amount of ad hominem attacks being thrown at everyone and anyone who doesn't share in thinking this amounts to victimhood or SA.
    6. By this standard, if a girl flirts with me and I reject her advances (and maybe she isn't single), I'm a "victim". I surely don't think so. I just think rejecting her makes me moderately intelligent.
    7. Circling back, now - I might see victimhood if there was evidence to sustain that. Even if I accept all that is alleged, I'm not seeing victimhood yet.
    8. I wonder what harsh name-calling is about to be levied against me for thinking so.
  • iamSent
    190 days
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    1. There has to be a lot more that we haven't seen, because nothing I've read is anything other than iskall being a creepy cheating partner. The problem publicly, is that you've made accusations that Iskall is "abusive", "manipulative" and a predator, but you've given the public nothing to back that up with.
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    3. Iskall definitely seems like the person that would be like this, and especially the last year or two, he's changed into kind of a monster, even in his videos, but you really need to be careful with sharing stuff publicly, without giving proof publicly. I want to reiterate: I believe you, at least I believe you feel the way you feel with legitimate cause, but it's hard to confirm he's a sexual predator, without public facing proof. If you're going to accuse someone publicly, you need to provide the proof, as uncomfortable as that is.
  • SuperMicro
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    1. This message is for anyone trying to decide how to feel about this situation or anyone reading through other people's perspectives:
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    3. I will tackle this situation like one would in a legal debate. First of all, some statements:
    4. - This information comes from someone who has read several perspectives on this issue, those blindly hating on Iskall accusing him of being a criminal (an extreme), those applauding the women involved, those blindly supporting Iskall and claiming this is "woke" (another extreme), you name it.
    5. - To the person who created the paste and shared their story, thank you for doing so. It is good to hear these types of allegations publicly and it is good that you feel comfortable sharing this information.
    6. - Yes, as far as the general public knows, this could be completely made up and baseless. However, there is no evidence suggesting that this is made up and no credible reason to treat this as false information. So, we will postulate that the information given, as provided, is true.
    7. - I don't necessarily endorse either Iskall, any people who are providing statements, or any other people. Take this analysis purely as a thought experiment. At best, this provides people a lens to view this situation and understand exactly what this means, and at worst, this is just a silly thought experiment based on information circulating at the time of writing.
    8. - It is important to maintain a consistent definition of what we will call "unprofessional," "intentional," "explicit," "victim," and other words used during this situation.
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    10. I propose the following claims, each of which I will explain based on evidence and discussion that has been presented, assuming the plain facts that have been provided in the few major statements by Mefallit, Kasszi, and others are true for the sake of argument. I am open to further discussion and taking back some of these claims based on new arguments. This is just what I see as reasonable at the moment:
    11. 1. All of us should be aware that there is not enough information currently circulating for us to be able to concretely make up our minds about the character or intent of anybody involved, including Iskall or any others who have provided statements or stories. It is a developing situation, and people are being too quick to take sides based on the information that is currently public.
    12. 2. The language being used in discussion about this situation is likely more extreme than is presently justified and it is reasonable to believe that the way this situation is being dealt with and received is similar to other situations (such as SA cases or cases involving minors) which are not parallel to the situation we are dealing with here.
    13. 3. Iskall's position as a content creator and generally more well-known person changed the situation significantly and was reflected in the nature of his actions and the nature with which his actions were received and interpreted, which led to a generally more negative situation for those involved, especially those who are not Iskall.
    14. 4. There is not enough evidence or probable cause to contend that Iskall has broken a law.
    15. 5. There is not enough evidence or probable cause to contend that Iskall is necessarily a manipulative person. (Note that classifying someone as a manipulative person is not the same as saying that some of the things that they did could be seen as manipulative. I am not claiming that Iskall did not do anything manipulative; rather, I am contending that the evidence currently present is not enough to classify his character as a whole.)
    16. 6. The definition of the word "victim" has been used loosely at best and incorrectly at worst, and people who have interacted with Iskall in the past are reclassifying their past experiences based on rhetoric that is being thrown around in the present.
    17. 7. The actions of the other Hermits and members of the Vault Hunters team make the situation look worse for Iskall and make his case harder to argue, but do not provide sufficient grounds to dismiss a possible Iskall defense for being in the right or sufficient grounds to assume Iskall is guilty of everything he is being accused of in the way he is being accused of it.
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    19. MORE COMING IN REPLIES...
    • SuperMicro
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      1. 1. As with any internet drama that has happened before, you have likely found yourself invested in this situation after watching a YouTube video, seeing a social media post, discussing the situation with a friend, or something similar. Needless to say, there is lots of room for drama to be created, rhetoric to be spun, truth to be warped, and rumors to be spread. When addressing this situation, one must keep this in mind and take everything with a grain of salt. The YouTubers who are covering this drama are, at least in part, doing it because they hope it will get them views and internet clout; the notable people (such as other Hermits) who are discussing this situation are also trying to protect their own reputations and lessen the damage they take due to this situation; and people who are spreading information about this are, at least in part, doing it because they have made up their minds about the situation and want others to feel the same way that they do, either trashing Iskall, supporting those who they see as victims, calling this whole situation "woke" or "cancel culture," or something similar. Please do not let the situation guide you to your biases, whether you're already biased against Iskall because of your past reactions to instances of SA or child abuse, which the coverage of this situation at least partially resemble, despite this situation being less grave; or whether you're biased against the victims because you see this as yet another example of "woke cancel culture" by crazy people (as previous commenter on another post EAGLER5 seems to view it).
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      3. 2. Practically nobody is claiming that Iskall did anything good, because there is nothing that indicates that to be the case. However, there is nuance in how bad the actions are that Iskall did, and that is important to understand. The format of how this situation being covered is eerily similar to other more serious situations of child abuse, SA, large-scale scams, and other controversies. This is reflected in statements in victims' messages such as "My heart goes out to the other victims," "fans who are now grappling with the pain, betrayal, anger, and confusion that come with this revelation," "courage in sharing their stories first. Your bravery in speaking out has made it possible for me to finally do the same," "I am heartbroken by what has happened—not just to me, but to everyone else who trusted him," "To everyone who is feeling hurt or saddened by this, I want to remind you that brighter days are ahead. We don’t have to stay in the darkness forever," or other statements. To be clear, I am not saying that these statements are unjustified; there ought to be public support for those speaking out, and this promotes a positive environment for those who may have further information to share. However, I am saying that this wording, along with the way this is being covered on social media as a huge controversy, is very similar to situations that are more serious, and this likely affects people's subconscious thought processes regarding the situation. In other words, the fact that this situation is being talked about in that way is likely causing some people to view this as a much larger deal than a reasonable person would conclude it is, and we ought to not conflate this situation with other, more extreme situations.
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      5. 3. Previous commenter BRIGHTSUNSHINE had a very valuable perspective on this particular issue. Iskall's position as a content creator undoubtedly affected the situation. Many of these people have been people who have supported Iskall for a long time, and continued to do so until very recently, such as fans, moderators, and more. Iskall very likely would not have had the same access to people that he did had he not had the online presence that he did. On top of this, Iskall's generally unreciprocated nature that has been reflected in statements by victims such as asking others to do things for him, thanking others for supporting him, replying very late to or ignoring people's messages, or otherwise treating others as 'less,' or other actions of the sort would likely have been treated very differently had he not had the online presence he did. For example, in the statement made by the paster for this thread along with the Google Doc by Kasszi, the victim believed that Iskall was interested in her romantically and both people had shared private and personal information with each other. If Iskall had not been famous online, his repeated periods of time leaving people without online communication or repeated examples of not replying to messages properly like would not have been tolerated, and Iskall may have taken advantage of this to lead these women on even more, allowing him to balance many such relationships at once. There seems to be an uneven power dynamic formed between Iskall and each of those who are alleging something against him now; it seems like his words, opinions, response times, etc. had more weight than the woman's during their conversations, and this is dangerous for any relationship, let alone ones that are online and that involve suggestive wording from someone like Iskall.
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      7. 4. Iskall has been accused of cheating on the partner he supposedly lives with; leading various people on to make them believe he had romantic interest in them; making sexual, suggestive, or flirtacious comments that were potentially unwelcome; and more, but as all parties seem to be consenting adults, there is no ground based on the information currently present to argue that he broke a law, and thus it is unfair to call Iskall a criminal, abuser, etc., at least by their legal definitions. Because of this, the question of people wanting to associate with Iskall or not is completely separate from the legality of his actions, and better reflect people's desired perceptions by others and intuitions about his character rather than avoiding association with a criminal. I don't completely agree with the frame of reference used by previous commenter DEMIDEMIGOD, but I share the same curiosity and recognition of insufficient evidence.
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      9. 5. Again, I will preface this by saying that the way Iskall dealt with each of the women who have come forward was ill-performed at best and malicious at worst. I do not contend that any of the actions done by Iskall are good or directly defensible. With this in mind, consider the following perspectives. It is entirely possible that Iskall felt some kind of gain from playing multiple women at the same time. It is entirely possible that Iskall wanted to get as much connection with women as he could by using his social standing. It is entirely possible that Iskall wanted to 'keep his options open' in the event that some of the women he was talking to didn't reflect the romantic interest he portrayed. However, it is also entirely possible that Iskall felt uncomfortable directly declaring romantic interest to the women in question. It is also entirely possible that Iskall didn't know how to express his romantic interest in any of the women in question, and this was his best, poorly orchestrated attempt. It is also entirely possible that the scope of his messages were taken out of context, and that they were not actually as suggestive as they may seem to us now based on context about things he had said previously or how he felt about his relationship with the people in question. I, for one, know a couple of people who have trouble expressing their feelings, either because they have some kind of anxiety and feel very nervous about directly declaring romantic interest out of fear of being rejected or publicly ridiculed. (Imagine if Iskall had declared to one of the initial women he had contacted in this manner that he was interested in them romantically and that he wanted to get to know them better, and then the person refused. It would make their relationship, which was probably also professional through moderation or Vault Hunters, a lot more complicated. It would put him at risk of being portrayed as a creep. It would leave him vulnerable expressing his true emotions to a potentially worldwide audience, if the woman decided to share the information with others.) I have friends who make bad jokes, including sexual ones, in an effort to be funny, or because they might not know how to express their emotions, but whose jokes aren't always received well and that often come across the wrong way. Now, there is no evidence to suggest that this is how Iskall felt, and it's very possible that the negative possibilities I mentioned of Iskall's intentions are actually true. However, I saw some glaring similarities in the messages sent by Iskall that have gone public and a friend who just doesn't know how to express themselves and gets uncomfortable with romantic interest. This is no defense of Iskall, but because there is not enough public evidence to claim Iskall was 100% in the wrong in his actions and intentions, it is worth at least considering this possibility that Iskall didn't know how to express his feelings or communicate romantic interest, which was the cause of him spiraling out to suggestively contacting multiple women and treating them this way. The actions that he is being accused of and their execution is undoubtedly bad, and I'm confident Iskall would feel the same way, assuming this evidence, as presented, is 100% accurate, but it would be unfair to exclude a more innocent or forgiving pathway for how Iskall came to do these bad things. Because I cannot prove Iskall completely at fault because we are discussing rhetoric and rumor, I might as well propose one similarity I saw with his messages that might explain it in a more innocent way. I don't completely agree with the frame of reference used by previous commenter DEMIDEMIGOD, but I share the same curiosity and recognition of insufficient evidence.
    • SuperMicro
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      1. 6. I see this particular issue in a similar way to VAGENDA, another commenter. We can reliably postulate that it is justified to call someone a victim reliably if they have been attacked in some way, such as being baited into a scam, being involved in an SA or child abuse case, etc. However, this is not the same situation as having communicated with someone in a partially romantic way and then them stopping to talk with you, which is an oversimplified but objectively true summary of the original paster of this thread. I am not arguing that the people involved in this situation with Iskall are not actually victims; I have actually used this term in multiple places throughout my analysis to refer to the women involved. Rather, I disagree with the standard or precedent set by this discussion and the original poster as to what exactly makes someone a victim or someone who has been abused. Referring directly to the original poster's comment about what they did or did not consent to, "I did not consent to being the other woman," I believe that this statement isn't productive to defining someone as a victim. By talking to another person online, you consented to being in that discussion and forming that relationship with the other person, regardless of whether that person was also talking to someone else in a similar way. Yes, it is true that you did not want to be "the other woman," and it seems like you very legitimately felt betrayed when you learned that someone you had been romantic-ish with (Iskall) had not been that way exclusively with you, but from your story, it doesn't seem like your relationship was ever made official, where both of you would agree to be exclusive, and it doesn't seem like Iskall ever claimed to only be talking with you in this way, though you could very well argue that it was implied. At the end of the day, the way I see it, the original paster isn't a victim in the same way that they would be if Iskall cheated on them during an established relationship, and what the original paster has used as the reasoning to define themselves as a victim (which was implied then they said "My heart goes out to the other victims"), seems to be limited to breaching an implied agreement that they and Iskall never actually clearly made. Under this limited framework, if the original paster had instead reached out to Iskall and made romantic moves on him while also making such moves on other people, along with going radio silent on the social media platform after a while, Iskall would be considered a victim, which doesn't make sense as I see it. I admit, though, that this is more of a petty semantics argument regarding the exact denotation of the word "victim" rather than a serious classification of the experience of the original paster.
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      3. 7. An argument that I have seen others make is that Iskall should be assumed to be at fault for everything he is being accused of because he has not made any statements regarding the situation from his side yet and because he willingly resigned from Hermitcraft. It certainly doesn't help his case that he hasn't released any statements or anything from his side of the story, and that the Hermitcraft team, at least those who looked at the evidence, had decided to pursue confrontation with Iskall regarding the situation, but there are additional factors to consider regarding what places him at fault, what we can assume, and why Iskall may have made the decisions he has. I'll address those in reverse order. First, it isn't surprising that Iskall has not been quick to put out a statement from his side regarding the situation. It seems like the majority of creators (including other Hermits), the majority of people on social media, and the general public aware of this situation have already decided that Iskall was in the wrong, and most of those people are likely not super open to thinking critically about the situation and changing their mind if Iskall were to present evidence or arguments that prove his innocence. Take the two possible cases: Say Iskall is in the wrong and he acknowledges that. His best plan of action is to let the situation die down (as all internet drama does) to take the fewest hits possible from it, and then to potentially put out an apology regarding the situation, which would probably lead the general public to conclude that all the allegations being levied against him are true, even if Iskall only admits to a portion of the things he is being accused of. Alternatively, he could pocket the money he has made during his social media career and disappear from the public eye. If he is in the wrong, it is obviously not in his interest to share all the proof of his wrongdoing. Now, say that Iskall is actually in the right, that these stories are misconstrued or severely out of context (which we have no reason to believe is the case, but let's entertain the possibility), and that he believes he is in the right. He could then post a video or some kind of public-facing statement explaining his side of the story and his positions, but since most people are already not on his side, this will almost definitely be received negatively as him failing to admit to his supposed wrongdoings, and it will only extend the duration of this internet drama, causing him even more distress and losses, and causing division amongst his community into a group that has moved on from him and a small group who is defending him. Do you see what I mean? Regardless of whether he is in the right or in the wrong, it is not in his interest to release additional information or his side of the story, and regardless of whether what he did was right or wrong in reality, it makes more sense monetarily and socially to let the situation die down, remain silent, and resign from Hermitcraft to make the drama as short as possible and cut his losses now. The rumors have already run wild about what he has done or is being accused of (just check the recent comments on his latest video) and the damage is done. It's not like Iskall was really benefitting that much from his Hermitcraft membership these days, anyways, as his view counts have been trending down on his Hermitcraft content, his videos had grown more sparse, and he hasn't uploaded any Hermitcraft in the past few months, so he doesn't lose that much by resigning from Hermitcraft. Because of the plain fact that, regardless of whether he was in the right or in the wrong, it is not in Iskall's interest to prolong the situation and fuel the drama, it is not logical to assume fault in Iskall due to him not posting about it and him resigning from Hermitcraft.
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      5. I've spent about two hours researching this topic and compiling my thoughts into seven organized points, and I hope someone out there finds at least one of the points useful to understand this situation in some way. Once again, I do not necessarily condone or condemn Iskall's actions, and there is not enough evidence to come to a definite conclusion, and I engaged in this topic purely as a fun thought experiment based on the information being circulated currently. I am 100% open to further discussion and changing my mind on the seven points I provided based on what evidence or arguments others bring up, and I am also open to clarifying more about what I mean, as I typed most of this quite hastily, and I'm bound to have missed some stuff or been unclear somewhere. I will admit, though, that I've never used Pastebin before, I don't plan on using it much in the future, and I made this account as an alt account, including the email address I used to make the account, so I probably won't be back to this thread after the next few days have passed and this situation has died down, I won't be notified of replies because I don't check the alt email, and I will likely forget the password I made for this account at some point or another. Regardless, I'm curious to see what others have to say in the next couple of days and I'll try to check periodically to see if there is any interesting discussion I can engage in, at least while this situation is still relevant. To anybody who read even part of what I spent time writing, thank you. I look forward to further discussions like this.
  • Vagenda
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    1. Well said, SUPERMICRO. I want to confirm to you that I did read every word. You have organized your thoughts, and clearly expressed them. My concern is twofold. I'm not sure how many will take the time to read it, and I'm also concerned about how many jump to snap conclusions regarding everything these days, not just regarding whether or not Iskall is guilty of anything. In a world where marketing and media progressively shorten attention spans, people seen to prefer the immediate gratification of snap judgements to internet drama at the expense of someone else's actual life. I feel it often doesn't occur to someone to actually weigh the evidence rationally until it is their life being affected.
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    3. Let's hope my concerns are stupid for everyone's sake.
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    5. Thanks for taking the time to comment on this.
    • SuperMicro
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      1. Good to see a response, VAGENDA. Thank you for the concern about not many people making it through the whole thing. I wrote it on a whim for fun (and also to procrastinate other work that I should've been working on at the time) and the fact that at least one person somewhere out there has read it satisfies me completely.
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      3. I agree that snap judgments are a big problem in our world today where people are very busy and are saturated with information and dopamine hits. It's one of the big problems that we have no clear answer or path forward for, unfortunately, at least from what I've seen.
  • Bannana55
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    1. Thank you very much for giving me a more clear perspective on this topic SUPERMICRO. Your posts werent just entertaining to read they also helped me realise how easy it is to get lost in the Drama.
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    3. I sincerly hope more people read your article and learn to lessen the snap judgements.
    4. (please excause any poor gramer english is my second language)
  • DaniBoBani
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    1. Wow I just found out about this since it's not being spoken of on youtube at all. I don't see the problem here. You were consenting and an adult. Claiming people should be allowed to stay anonymous while spouting these claims and defaming a person's career and credibility is an insane take. A woman JUST came out as lying for over 2 decades of being r**ed. She ruined those mens lives. Yet we should believe you with no proof? The best I've seen is a few out of context screenshots from people consenting. Regarding those Kass screenshots - Aside from not getting the same vibe / tone as they insist, at least as far as Aug 26 2023 (after he added her on Skype) he called her sir. Did he even know she was a girl at that point? That's really weird. I was expecting even low level flirting from the other screenshots, but there's NONE. Has anyone read it?? Where is he flirting?? It sounded like he wanted her to speak out if she needed anything and to treat him more like a friend and less like a "sir". She sounds like she deluded herself into believing he wanted to get with her. I was flirted with more seriously than that in middle school.
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    3. It's also 2024 you don't know if Iskall and his "live-in partner" (as Kass says) had an open arrangement. Whatever happened to innocent until proven guilty? In fact, this is the worst case of slander since trying to have any legal ramifications would be an international mess. What law did Iskall break? If he was any other internet personality would he be getting this pushback? In fact, would any of the girls who reached out to him have done so if he didn't have over a million subscribers? Trying to use people is a two way street. Also genuine question - How did JoeHills meet his wife? She's a long time subscriber on Xisuma's twitch, did she meet Joe through Twitch as well? If so, why is it okay for Joe and not Iskall? In a similar vein, Sims 4 Youtuber Lilsimsie, who has a comparable following and age group base, married her twitch moderator. No one batted an eye. Why is it a problem when Iskall is the one doing it? I feel sympathy for the girls that allegedly got played, but I haven't seen any proof of it and seeing how many times it's come out that people are lying about the situation gives me pause for concern when it's someone's life and career at stake. This feels like a witch hunt. Going to copy and paste this to other places talking about it because I have a sinking suspicion my comments might get hidden/deleted.
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    1. Iskall's new video just went live. It painted a good emotional narrative but didn't give us much more to work with in the story because he said he wanted to maintain privacy and not affect the legal investigation. This rabbit hole has once again been opened up and I hope more details will surface soon.
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      1. Thank you for the analysis, I 100% agree with you on the matter. I just saw the video and read your analysis above, and I feel like people think silence means guilty. In many investigations this is not true, as publicity could hamper the investigation of the authorities. Also I feel like the part that the writer of this Personal Statement is focusing on is the fact that they got led on. Which while socially is not very nice, isnt an unlawfull/criminal act, which you did describe very well in you analysis. Now I also understand that emotionally being played can be very hurtful, it is not a reason to publicly defame someone. Imagine every time someone got rejected after they talked to someone and thought they were into them just for it not to be the case. I do think, considering nothing illegal has been done (as far as we can see from the evidence thus far deliverd) it should not have been publicly handled, but in private. This probably could have been handled if they had confronted Iskall with this in private (maybe they have and nothing was achieved) and from that go forwards. Taking the step to instantly go public is in my opinion escalating the situation, and resulting in a bad outcome for all parties involved no matter the outcome of the legal investigation.
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