6. I see this particular issue in a similar way to VAGENDA, another commenter. We can reliably postulate that it is justified to call someone a victim reliably if they have been attacked in some way, such as being baited into a scam, being involved in an SA or child abuse case, etc. However, this is not the same situation as having communicated with someone in a partially romantic way and then them stopping to talk with you, which is an oversimplified but objectively true summary of the original paster of this thread. I am not arguing that the people involved in this situation with Iskall are not actually victims; I have actually used this term in multiple places throughout my analysis to refer to the women involved. Rather, I disagree with the standard or precedent set by this discussion and the original poster as to what exactly makes someone a victim or someone who has been abused. Referring directly to the original poster's comment about what they did or did not consent to, "I did not consent to being the other woman," I believe that this statement isn't productive to defining someone as a victim. By talking to another person online, you consented to being in that discussion and forming that relationship with the other person, regardless of whether that person was also talking to someone else in a similar way. Yes, it is true that you did not want to be "the other woman," and it seems like you very legitimately felt betrayed when you learned that someone you had been romantic-ish with (Iskall) had not been that way exclusively with you, but from your story, it doesn't seem like your relationship was ever made official, where both of you would agree to be exclusive, and it doesn't seem like Iskall ever claimed to only be talking with you in this way, though you could very well argue that it was implied. At the end of the day, the way I see it, the original paster isn't a victim in the same way that they would be if Iskall cheated on them during an established relationship, and what the original paster has used as the reasoning to define themselves as a victim (which was implied then they said "My heart goes out to the other victims"), seems to be limited to breaching an implied agreement that they and Iskall never actually clearly made. Under this limited framework, if the original paster had instead reached out to Iskall and made romantic moves on him while also making such moves on other people, along with going radio silent on the social media platform after a while, Iskall would be considered a victim, which doesn't make sense as I see it. I admit, though, that this is more of a petty semantics argument regarding the exact denotation of the word "victim" rather than a serious classification of the experience of the original paster.

7. An argument that I have seen others make is that Iskall should be assumed to be at fault for everything he is being accused of because he has not made any statements regarding the situation from his side yet and because he willingly resigned from Hermitcraft. It certainly doesn't help his case that he hasn't released any statements or anything from his side of the story, and that the Hermitcraft team, at least those who looked at the evidence, had decided to pursue confrontation with Iskall regarding the situation, but there are additional factors to consider regarding what places him at fault, what we can assume, and why Iskall may have made the decisions he has. I'll address those in reverse order. First, it isn't surprising that Iskall has not been quick to put out a statement from his side regarding the situation. It seems like the majority of creators (including other Hermits), the majority of people on social media, and the general public aware of this situation have already decided that Iskall was in the wrong, and most of those people are likely not super open to thinking critically about the situation and changing their mind if Iskall were to present evidence or arguments that prove his innocence. Take the two possible cases: Say Iskall is in the wrong and he acknowledges that. His best plan of action is to let the situation die down (as all internet drama does) to take the fewest hits possible from it, and then to potentially put out an apology regarding the situation, which would probably lead the general public to conclude that all the allegations being levied against him are true, even if Iskall only admits to a portion of the things he is being accused of. Alternatively, he could pocket the money he has made during his social media career and disappear from the public eye. If he is in the wrong, it is obviously not in his interest to share all the proof of his wrongdoing. Now, say that Iskall is actually in the right, that these stories are misconstrued or severely out of context (which we have no reason to believe is the case, but let's entertain the possibility), and that he believes he is in the right. He could then post a video or some kind of public-facing statement explaining his side of the story and his positions, but since most people are already not on his side, this will almost definitely be received negatively as him failing to admit to his supposed wrongdoings, and it will only extend the duration of this internet drama, causing him even more distress and losses, and causing division amongst his community into a group that has moved on from him and a small group who is defending him. Do you see what I mean? Regardless of whether he is in the right or in the wrong, it is not in his interest to release additional information or his side of the story, and regardless of whether what he did was right or wrong in reality, it makes more sense monetarily and socially to let the situation die down, remain silent, and resign from Hermitcraft to make the drama as short as possible and cut his losses now. The rumors have already run wild about what he has done or is being accused of (just check the recent comments on his latest video) and the damage is done. It's not like Iskall was really benefitting that much from his Hermitcraft membership these days, anyways, as his view counts have been trending down on his Hermitcraft content, his videos had grown more sparse, and he hasn't uploaded any Hermitcraft in the past few months, so he doesn't lose that much by resigning from Hermitcraft. Because of the plain fact that, regardless of whether he was in the right or in the wrong, it is not in Iskall's interest to prolong the situation and fuel the drama, it is not logical to assume fault in Iskall due to him not posting about it and him resigning from Hermitcraft.

I've spent about two hours researching this topic and compiling my thoughts into seven organized points, and I hope someone out there finds at least one of the points useful to understand this situation in some way. Once again, I do not necessarily condone or condemn Iskall's actions, and there is not enough evidence to come to a definite conclusion, and I engaged in this topic purely as a fun thought experiment based on the information being circulated currently. I am 100% open to further discussion and changing my mind on the seven points I provided based on what evidence or arguments others bring up, and I am also open to clarifying more about what I mean, as I typed most of this quite hastily, and I'm bound to have missed some stuff or been unclear somewhere. I will admit, though, that I've never used Pastebin before, I don't plan on using it much in the future, and I made this account as an alt account, including the email address I used to make the account, so I probably won't be back to this thread after the next few days have passed and this situation has died down, I won't be notified of replies because I don't check the alt email, and I will likely forget the password I made for this account at some point or another. Regardless, I'm curious to see what others have to say in the next couple of days and I'll try to check periodically to see if there is any interesting discussion I can engage in, at least while this situation is still relevant. To anybody who read even part of what I spent time writing, thank you. I look forward to further discussions like this.