SargJQ

I realize this may not be something the Stormer forums care about but I think it is important, as this guy carries a large audience of hapless simps who will believe his crap if not rebutted. And he lost a debate to Jared Taylor, and another member of his community was humiliated by our cohorts, so he has an interest in attacking us

Here is a clip of him talking about doing this https://twitter.com/thejd800/status/923717552043208704

For those of you who are confused, someone in his online community also made a series of videos about the JQ and there was some bizarre fallout from all that (he says he cant refute it fwiw)

These videos are pretty good. Neither side is presented at their best or most persuasive (despite Sargon claiming our's are, which worries me as I think he is disingenuous). BUT he presented both sides in a mostly equal light. Equally flawed but still the main message is communicated

This is really all one needs to know, what follows are the videos in question and sort of my rough idea of what to expect and what good answers are.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cxK2y-N10Bs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=74OokZdK7Hk

I suspect Sargon will base his critique (and it will be a critique) off of these videos rather than the works of Kevin MacDonald or Andrew Joyce (both contemporary scholars with credentials, the latter Sargon refused a prominent debate offer from)

What do I expect? Well he will focus on a few things and will dismiss them rather blithely. Because he has mentioned such things before.

1. Jewish role in communism

His answer will be the relatively small number of capitalist jews like Milton Friendman, without realizing communist jews absolutely dwarf capitalist jews by proportion (or that Jews are very progressive now). In fact, if you look at wikipedia's comparison of prominent capitalists and communists, not only does Communism have much more Jewish influence, but virtually all communist gentiles were political leaders while there are no such things as 'capitalist leaders' and gentiles still greatly outnumber jews there.

2. He will compare our focus on Jews to how progressives focus on white people.

Which is erroneous. Our argument is more to do with what Jews do with their positions, while they simply focus on white overrepresentation.

_Moreover, Sargon himself believes in many narratives which are similar to the JQ._

-He believes that the EU is dominated by Germany and has an authoritarian character as a result. They concede a group can be the architect of something bad or ill-suited for other groups, they concede this is a possible situation

-He believes white liberals hurt blacks by passing bad policy, because they are completely disconnected from the black community

-And he believes the wealthy class in the West is using mass immigration as economic warfare against the poor.

ALL of these narratives actually match what we think about Jews. They are at best a disconnected and callous elite, at worst a malicious one. And free inquiry demands we debate which is true, and that _talking about it can only be good_ :^)

I think this narrative about the JQ is most defensible/steelmanned to a normie audience, it's simply saying a group that is either totally disconnected from the majority, if not hostile to them, doesn't have an interest in helping said majority or an interest in changing/pathologizing them

Which Jews have historically exhibited as per Kevin MacDonald's work.
http://forward.com/news/179296/jews-unite-behind-push-for-immigration-reform/
http://www.theoccidentalobserver.net/2014/04/06/is-immigration-really-a-jewish-value/

Among others we could drum up. The explicitly Jewish interest in non-white immigration is of the utmost importance, it is our strongest argument by far. Easy to understand why they'd want a non-white future (they fear whites), and easy to show because they announce it so often. This alone shows a pathological relationship. Which is what we want.


I prefer this narrative to the "tribal mentality" narrative because a JQ-skeptic could point out instances of Jews not obviously behaving tribally (like young Jews calling zionism 'racist') or high rates of intermarriage as a counterpoint. We have answers for these but they are very much 'inside baseball' and take too much explaining and citation I find.

Moreover, my narrative skirts the issue of political leaning among Jews completely. It doesn't matter if Zionist Jews or Progressive Jews are making decisions, both won't have our wellbeing in mind. The former is concerned with their own and see us competition, the latter thinks we are the source of evil. Hence why it is the 'kosher sandwich'

And dovetails quite nicely when one realizes that almost 3/4 Jews in America thinks 'remembering the Holocaust' is what being Jewish means. So they fear and pathologize whites on a personal level one could reasonably infer
http://www.pewforum.org/2013/10/01/jewish-american-beliefs-attitudes-culture-survey/

That's about it. Thank you anyone who read all this shit.

oh and a comment thread on this video (he has top comment), gives you insight into what he is. Don't think of him as a leftist, think of him as a really cucky conservative or libertarian who believes "our values" prevent us from securing our demographic future, except on his terms of just opposing immigration without a compelling (racial) reason why.

Reject these answers!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IG3TS_dI_ME