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  1. Embrace v. Stalin
  2. ***
  3. Stalin R1
  4. * Xeno smells Masque, ergo invis doesn't work + evidence
  5. * Masque's vision lets her see invisible stuff, but doesn't help her see things that are good at hiding
  6. * Xeno good at hiding + evidence
  7. * Xeno cuts Masque
  8. * Vulnerable to stealth attack
  9. * Pounce attack mogs
  10.  
  11. Embrace R1
  12. * Masque sees her foe first as they are a larger target + high ground
  13. * Dump of various esoteric weapons Masque has
  14. * Masque has superior range
  15. * Masque is good at aiming/shooting, Xeno isn't
  16. * Guns fast
  17. * Masque can take what Xeno has
  18. * Acid is slow/not a 100% kill
  19. * Masque can dodge piercing easily
  20. * Masque can hurt Xeno
  21. * Takes a while for Xeno to recover from attacks
  22. * Lack of esoteric
  23. * Masque is faster + evidence
  24. * Masque can hurt Xeno v2
  25. * Smashes metal stuff/hurts IM + scaling
  26. * Has tasers, which Xeno has no resistance to
  27. * Masque can take what Xeno has v2
  28. * Blunt dura feats
  29. * Piercing argument again
  30. * Pre-Rebuttals
  31. * Poisoned and gets weaker over time
  32. * IM gets stronger over time
  33. * Canon shenanigans
  34.  
  35. Stalin R2
  36. * Hide attack argument v2
  37. * Masque is more prone to a direct/weaponless attack than what Embrace describes
  38. * Hide attack argument v3
  39. * Alien acid > IRL acid + removing armor just helps with another attack
  40. * Can't react if you don't know its coming
  41. * Counter canon argument
  42.  
  43. Embrace R2
  44. * Reiterated a ton of stuff from R1 + Masque one shots Xeno
  45. * Counters invis via context
  46. * Masque has superior invis + won't make same mistakes
  47. * Masque can counter sound based senses
  48. * Grid is slow
  49. * Points out that stealth won't work in the arena + that Masque will avoid cramped quarters
  50. * Grid is bad at stealth + evidence
  51. * Argues IM surprise attack isn't actually one + isn't that bad if it is
  52. * Masque is strong/durable
  53.  
  54. ***
  55. Judgement
  56.  
  57. Stalin wins. While I did agree with Embrace on many points (Xeno's stealth would be garbage in the lit environment, Masque is generally physically superior and has one shot options), Stalin won a few key arguments in my book. A. Acid/piercing can one shot/notably cripple Masque B. Masque's invis does shit in this fight C. Masque won't open with esoterics/go for a stealth attack. While I think in an extended punch fest Masque would win, if she stealth attacks she's going to end with a face full of acid or a nasty puncture wound.
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