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"Fine, I'll do it myself." -- Truth and Justice

JaysonSunshine
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  2. 12:03 Godric
  3. well the house will impeach him and the senate will not convict
  4. Godric
  5. just like clintion
  6. EonEcho
  7. Godric: Should Donald Trump be removed from office?
  8. Godric
  9. should? I dunno. its shitty either way
  10. Godric
  11. will Prez Pence be good? i dunno.
  12. Godric
  13. ^
  14. Godric
  15. thats 1/2 the circus
  16. EonEcho
  17. Why would it be shitty if Donald Trump is removed from office?
  18. Godric
  19. its arguable they like trump
  20. 12:07 EonEcho
  21. You've indicated you're morally reasoning by evaluating outcomes. What do you think about the usage of principles?
  22. Godric
  23. but both trump and pence push the same GOP platform to the T
  24. Godric
  25. would Pence's SCJ picks be better then trumps?
  26. Godric
  27. doubtful
  28. EonEcho
  29. Godric: Have you noticed you've not yet once leveraged principles?
  30. EonEcho
  31. I've noticed.
  32. EonEcho
  33. I find it fairly shocking.
  34. Godric
  35. im not worried about what you are noticing
  36. 12:10 EonEcho
  37. Okay.
  38. EonEcho
  39. I put you on ignore for three weeks, Godric.
  40. EonEcho
  41. That you, apparently, don't include a notion of principles *whatsoever* into your moral calculations of some of the most important issues facing our nation to be astounding and deeply revealing of your character as a human being.
  42. EonEcho
  43. https://pastebin.com/cCj7nYEq
  44. EonEcho
  45. Here's a memorialization of the encounter.
  46. EonEcho
  47. I'll now answer my own questions:
  48. EonEcho
  49. Trump clearly and deeply violated his role as president, directly harming American democracy.
  50. 12:12 EonEcho
  51. Therefore, he must be removed from office.
  52. EonEcho
  53. If you ask me, "But what happens then?"
  54. EonEcho
  55. My response: "I don't care."
  56. EonEcho
  57. Why don't I care?
  58. 12:13 EonEcho
  59. What is the archetype of every hero you've ever seen in every film and ever novel ever created by humans?
  60. EonEcho
  61. The hero is placed in a context where something *should* happen, but others are not doing it because they're not capable, or they're afraid, or they don't know what to do. The hero identifies what is to be done, and then decisively acts.
  62. EonEcho
  63. We tell this story to each other over and over and over and over and over and over again because it's what we deeply value.
  64. EonEcho
  65. We seek heroes.
  66. 12:15 EonEcho
  67. So, again, responding to "Should we impeach president Trump?", when, apparently, full adults seem utterly confused and can't figure out how to act, just step forward and state, "Fine, I'll do it myself."
  68. EonEcho
  69. The ability to maintain an orientation towards truth and justice in an authoritarian or totalitarian or unjust society is one of the greatest achievements anybody can accomplish.
  70. EonEcho
  71. You don't need anybody to go with you. You know what is true. Act.
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