Sven n Trojaner Mess

[2:03 PM] Trojaner: @Sven
[2:03 PM] Trojaner: i invite you to speaking
[2:04 PM] Sven: @Trojaner tomorrow, it's late, just came home from Frankfurt
[2:04 PM] Trojaner: once for all
[2:04 PM] Trojaner: we will clear this
[2:05 PM] Sven: It's ok, I am OK with working alone on this again
[2:05 PM] Sven: Feel free to contribute if you like
[2:05 PM] Trojaner: Im not ok with how you behave to team members who had 59 fucking commits on the rework
[2:06 PM] Sven: I am also ok with undoing rework if you feel like I used you there
[2:06 PM] Trojaner: yes, I would appreciate that
[2:06 PM] Sven: Well i will consider it
[2:06 PM] Trojaner: I dont want my code used by someone who dont respect me or my opinion
[2:06 PM] Trojaner: so yes, please remove it
[2:06 PM] Trojaner: oh and also please delete the license checker repo
[2:07 PM] Trojaner: as its fully proprietary and copyrighted by me
[2:07 PM] Sven: Ok :)
[2:07 PM] Trojaner: (no CLA was signed for that)
[2:07 PM] Trojaner: Its in your hand: either you respect me and my opinion as staff member
[2:08 PM] Trojaner: or I will become lead developer of Oxide Unturned and push all plugins on IP to oxide
[2:08 PM] Trojaner: with about 120 universal plugins which will work out of box(edited)
[2:08 PM] Crown: hows it feel bein a normie?
[2:09 PM] Trojaner: Sven apparently abuses his power if you dont join his opinion(edited)
[2:09 PM] Trojaner: @Sven you forgot to demote me on RocketMod Development Discord
[2:13 PM] Trojaner: thanks for everything, really
[2:14 PM] Trojaner: I had fun developing rocketmod with you
[2:14 PM] ChubbyQuokka: Go at this in dms
[2:14 PM] Sven: @Trojaner loves joining the club at throwing unmeaningfull shit at me and making personal matters a public affair
[2:14 PM] Trojaner: but you really have 0 respect for me(edited)
[2:15 PM] Sven: @Klaas and Lewis can proof that you behaved like a jerk, this wasn't some random bullshit
[2:15 PM] Trojaner: only me?
[2:15 PM] Trojaner: I dont say that I didnt made mistakes, but please you cant say that you didnt too
[2:16 PM] Sven: I do make mistakes, but my mistakes are not what piss other staff members of, that are deconstructive and against the project
[2:16 PM] Trojaner: oh boy..
[2:16 PM] Sven: And you and Lewis did the bitch fight, how can you praise respect
[2:16 PM] Trojaner: so getting the other main contributer removed is not destructive, uh?
[2:17 PM] Trojaner: Lewis started throwing shit at me
[2:17 PM] Trojaner: and well I threw it back
[2:17 PM] Trojaner: thats how it went
[2:17 PM] Trojaner: I didnt had any problems with him
[2:17 PM] Trojaner: he suddenly started accusing me stuff
[2:17 PM] Sven: Yep, you are both out now, works for me
[2:17 PM] Trojaner: like supporting cheaters for money
[2:17 PM] Sven: You supported cheaters tho
[2:17 PM] Trojaner: there is a difference between not banning them and supporting them
[2:18 PM] Sven: And it's not as you really contributed a lot, there is less then 50 lines of code in the current public release
[2:18 PM] Trojaner: check out the rework :smiley:
[2:18 PM] Sven: But again, that's all of my public statement
[2:18 PM] Trojaner: over 50 commits
[2:18 PM] Sven: You can talk to me tomorrow, or not
[2:18 PM] Trojaner: sandbox, scripting, fixing so that this shit compiles
[2:18 PM] Sven: But stop the shit throwing like them kids on Twitter
[2:19 PM] Trojaner: you just acted on yourself and removed my role, without talking at all
[2:19 PM] Trojaner: very good :thumbsup:
[2:19 PM] Sven: I have enough
[2:19 PM] Trojaner: what was about the vote again
[2:19 PM] Sven: 2 days of discussing about your obvious wrong doings
[2:19 PM] Trojaner: there is none right?
[2:19 PM] Trojaner: of me?
[2:19 PM] Sven: On Christmas, I don't need that
[2:19 PM] Sven: Too mutch drama tbh
[2:19 PM] Trojaner: yea Lewis totally didnt cause this
[2:20 PM] Trojaner: by randomly starting a bitch fight
[2:20 PM] Trojaner: he could have asked me nicely
[2:20 PM] Sven: He left 2 days ago
[2:20 PM] Trojaner: and kindly explained it to me
[2:20 PM] Trojaner: but no, lewis did it wrong
[2:20 PM] Trojaner: you can look from any perspective you want
[2:20 PM] Trojaner: lewis didnt do it right
[2:20 PM] Sven: Both of you did
[2:20 PM] Sven: Not do it right
[2:20 PM] Sven: In any perspective
[2:21 PM] Sven: So I don't know why you feel like I behaved unfairly
[2:21 PM] Trojaner: he shouldnt have accused me of supporting cheaters for money, and he shouldnt have started it 2 days ago, and we all could be friends at the moment
[2:21 PM] Sven: The difference is he is a fricking 13yo teen that does some mod support
[2:21 PM] Trojaner: You obviously are ignorant to facts
[2:21 PM] Trojaner: you claimed that I break Turkish law when I posted the law 4x
[2:21 PM] Sven: And you are the diva that wants to lead the team as an example
[2:22 PM] Trojaner: its like you dont read what I write at all
[2:22 PM] Trojaner: just post again your opinion
[2:22 PM] Sven: Ignoring that people on your website don't obey their law
[2:22 PM] Trojaner: they do, they do not break any law at the moment
[2:22 PM] Trojaner: if you find a law they break, let me know
[2:22 PM] Sven: And telling me it's not a problem if nobody mentions it to you
[2:23 PM] Trojaner: Sam was providing support, regardless of the document
[2:23 PM] Trojaner: doesnt matter if its linked or not
[2:23 PM] Sven: He said he won't
[2:23 PM] Sven: He wrote that, that written word is what Lewis showed you as proof
[2:23 PM] Trojaner: that document was made before he started creating paid plugins
[2:24 PM] Sven: Your team member told you, and you have nothing else to do then to start a bitch fight and defend your developer that obviously did wrong, nice teamwork
[2:24 PM] Trojaner: I didnt want any drama and told you like 2 times that I want to end the discussion
[2:24 PM] Trojaner: but no, you just cant until I agree to your opnion
[2:24 PM] Trojaner: Your team member told you, and you have nothing else to do then to start a bitch fight and defend your developer that obviously did wrong, nice teamwork I said to you in the past that I can not work with him
[2:24 PM] Trojaner: and that I was gonna leave
[2:24 PM] Sven: You ended the discussion with the words 'i know you are all wrong, Lewis was wrong, i am the king in the hood'
[2:24 PM] Trojaner: you cant expect that from me
[2:25 PM] Sven: You seem to not be constructive to the discussions nor consider this a friendly environment, a chat between friends, and you just don't suite this position if that's the case(edited)
[2:26 PM] Trojaner: He accussed me of something, I proved him wrong
[2:26 PM] Trojaner: the money support thing
[2:26 PM] Sven: He was right tho
[2:26 PM] Trojaner: he didnt even apologize for it
[2:26 PM] Trojaner: no he was not
[2:26 PM] Sven: Sam did write to not offer support
[2:26 PM] Trojaner: instead of talking to me directly, he started accusing me stuff on my discord
[2:26 PM] Trojaner: when I was away
[2:26 PM] Trojaner: having a huge public discussion on it
[2:27 PM] Trojaner: great teamwork he did there
[2:27 PM] Trojaner: but there is no critizing from you
[2:27 PM] Sven: He is out
[2:27 PM] Sven: What would I say more
[2:27 PM] Sven: He had the point, and you still can't see it
[2:27 PM] Trojaner: his point was that some cheat developers - who also make unturned plugins - need to be banned
[2:27 PM] Sven: He was all right to tell you, your first response was what made him go apes hit
[2:28 PM] Trojaner: I had a different opnion since cheats werent involved in that discord
[2:28 PM] Trojaner: no advertisment,  no talking about it
[2:28 PM] Trojaner: it doesnt matter if the opnion is right or not
[2:28 PM] Trojaner: the way how he explained this to my whole discord pisses me off
[2:28 PM] Trojaner: my first response was also to tell my moderators to not ban Lewis
[2:28 PM] Sven: @Trojaner yep, another great example for how you don't give a fuck for us as a team, I fucking made observatory to ruin people's fun on cheating
[2:29 PM] Simon: atleast I helped
[2:29 PM] Sven: You make a discord, call it the Switzerland and expect that it's all ok to have cheaters in there
[2:29 PM] Klaas: Hallo Simon :smile:
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[2:29 PM] Trojaner: Did I agree to you on the end?
[2:29 PM] Trojaner: ban those?
[2:29 PM] Trojaner: yes I did
[2:29 PM] Trojaner: you still throwing shit at me for it
[2:29 PM] Mr.Kwabs: Having this on my second screen was a mistake
[2:29 PM] Classified_: Uh, is this a bad time to ask for help about observatory?
[2:29 PM] Sven: While being maintainer of fucking rocket
[2:29 PM] Klaas: @Classified_ Try in #support(edited)
[2:30 PM] Trojaner: You force me to enforce your policy on my discord
[2:30 PM] Classified_: I'll just wait, ty
[2:30 PM] Sven: @Trojaner you agree in the end? wth you tell me that Lewis has a point there too? Wow
[2:30 PM] Trojaner: Its like you work on 2 different firms and one forces you to do stuff on the other one
[2:30 PM] Sven: That is utter bullshit
[2:30 PM] Trojaner: I was going to keep IP and Rocket separate, that no one woulkd affect the other
[2:30 PM] Trojaner: but you forced me to choose a site
[2:30 PM] Sven: It's your project, you want to support cheaters while being in team rocket
[2:31 PM] Trojaner: its not supporting cheaters -_-
[2:31 PM] Trojaner: if they would make advertisment about cheats on my discord
[2:31 PM] Trojaner: I would agree on that
[2:31 PM] Sven: By granting them immunity?
[2:31 PM] Sven: Sounds like appreciation to me
[2:31 PM] Sven: You just said you understood it was wrong
[2:31 PM] Trojaner: immunity is if they break rules and i dont ban them
[2:32 PM] Sven: Now you defend your decision
[2:32 PM] Trojaner: the fact is that there was no such rule on my discord
[2:32 PM] Trojaner: that being a cheat developer automatically bans you(edited)
[2:32 PM] Sven: Uh yea, that's a problem
[2:32 PM] Trojaner: after that I introduced that rule
[2:32 PM] Trojaner: and banned them
[2:32 PM] Sven: How would one change that
[2:32 PM] Trojaner: even made an announcement
[2:33 PM] Trojaner: but that is something in the past, we closed that topic already(edited)
[2:33 PM] Trojaner: Just trying to make my point why I hate Lewis
[2:33 PM] Trojaner: My point of view:
[2:33 PM] Trojaner: We were talking 2 days before on discord about the Dashboard
[2:33 PM] Trojaner: some days later I was playing a game with some friends(edited)
[2:33 PM] Trojaner: switch to Discord
[2:34 PM] Trojaner: just to see lewis throwing shit at me publicly, instead of contacting me(edited)
[2:34 PM] Trojaner: cant expect me to have any respect for that guy left after that
[2:35 PM] Sven: You hate him because he brought something up that you eventually found to be true?
[2:35 PM] Sven: I mean the way he proposed it was really wrong
[2:35 PM] Trojaner: it doesnt matter if its true or not
[2:35 PM] Trojaner: the way how he did it
[2:36 PM] Trojaner: thats what matters
[2:36 PM] Sven: But the way you right away answered that is on a similar level
[2:36 PM] Trojaner: no
[2:36 PM] Trojaner: what did I do, explain me
[2:36 PM] Sven: You didnt accept it
[2:36 PM] Trojaner: I told my mods to not ban him
[2:36 PM] Trojaner: I told people to not swear at him
[2:36 PM] Sven: You did not accept the truth he told you
[2:36 PM] Trojaner: but what does he do?
[2:36 PM] Trojaner: he continues throwing shit at me
[2:37 PM] Sven: Again, a 13 yo forum mod
[2:37 PM] Trojaner: I do not accept that I actively supported cheaters for money, which he publicly claimed
[2:37 PM] Sven: not a staf leader, no maintainer
[2:37 PM] Trojaner: I might have been passively supporting it, because they requested to sell plugins on my discord(edited)
[2:37 PM] Sven: he exaggerated, true, but you did support it