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| 1 | [2:03 PM] Trojaner: @Sven | |
| 2 | [2:03 PM] Trojaner: i invite you to speaking | |
| 3 | [2:04 PM] Sven: @Trojaner tomorrow, it's late, just came home from Frankfurt | |
| 4 | [2:04 PM] Trojaner: once for all | |
| 5 | [2:04 PM] Trojaner: we will clear this | |
| 6 | [2:05 PM] Sven: It's ok, I am OK with working alone on this again | |
| 7 | [2:05 PM] Sven: Feel free to contribute if you like | |
| 8 | [2:05 PM] Trojaner: Im not ok with how you behave to team members who had 59 fucking commits on the rework | |
| 9 | [2:06 PM] Sven: I am also ok with undoing rework if you feel like I used you there | |
| 10 | [2:06 PM] Trojaner: yes, I would appreciate that | |
| 11 | [2:06 PM] Sven: Well i will consider it | |
| 12 | [2:06 PM] Trojaner: I dont want my code used by someone who dont respect me or my opinion | |
| 13 | [2:06 PM] Trojaner: so yes, please remove it | |
| 14 | [2:06 PM] Trojaner: oh and also please delete the license checker repo | |
| 15 | [2:07 PM] Trojaner: as its fully proprietary and copyrighted by me | |
| 16 | [2:07 PM] Sven: Ok :) | |
| 17 | [2:07 PM] Trojaner: (no CLA was signed for that) | |
| 18 | [2:07 PM] Trojaner: Its in your hand: either you respect me and my opinion as staff member | |
| 19 | [2:08 PM] Trojaner: or I will become lead developer of Oxide Unturned and push all plugins on IP to oxide | |
| 20 | [2:08 PM] Trojaner: with about 120 universal plugins which will work out of box(edited) | |
| 21 | [2:08 PM] Crown: hows it feel bein a normie? | |
| 22 | [2:09 PM] Trojaner: Sven apparently abuses his power if you dont join his opinion(edited) | |
| 23 | [2:09 PM] Trojaner: @Sven you forgot to demote me on RocketMod Development Discord | |
| 24 | [2:13 PM] Trojaner: thanks for everything, really | |
| 25 | [2:14 PM] Trojaner: I had fun developing rocketmod with you | |
| 26 | [2:14 PM] ChubbyQuokka: Go at this in dms | |
| 27 | [2:14 PM] Sven: @Trojaner loves joining the club at throwing unmeaningfull shit at me and making personal matters a public affair | |
| 28 | [2:14 PM] Trojaner: but you really have 0 respect for me(edited) | |
| 29 | [2:15 PM] Sven: @Klaas and Lewis can proof that you behaved like a jerk, this wasn't some random bullshit | |
| 30 | [2:15 PM] Trojaner: only me? | |
| 31 | [2:15 PM] Trojaner: I dont say that I didnt made mistakes, but please you cant say that you didnt too | |
| 32 | [2:16 PM] Sven: I do make mistakes, but my mistakes are not what piss other staff members of, that are deconstructive and against the project | |
| 33 | [2:16 PM] Trojaner: oh boy.. | |
| 34 | [2:16 PM] Sven: And you and Lewis did the bitch fight, how can you praise respect | |
| 35 | [2:16 PM] Trojaner: so getting the other main contributer removed is not destructive, uh? | |
| 36 | [2:17 PM] Trojaner: Lewis started throwing shit at me | |
| 37 | [2:17 PM] Trojaner: and well I threw it back | |
| 38 | [2:17 PM] Trojaner: thats how it went | |
| 39 | [2:17 PM] Trojaner: I didnt had any problems with him | |
| 40 | [2:17 PM] Trojaner: he suddenly started accusing me stuff | |
| 41 | [2:17 PM] Sven: Yep, you are both out now, works for me | |
| 42 | [2:17 PM] Trojaner: like supporting cheaters for money | |
| 43 | [2:17 PM] Sven: You supported cheaters tho | |
| 44 | [2:17 PM] Trojaner: there is a difference between not banning them and supporting them | |
| 45 | [2:18 PM] Sven: And it's not as you really contributed a lot, there is less then 50 lines of code in the current public release | |
| 46 | [2:18 PM] Trojaner: check out the rework :smiley: | |
| 47 | [2:18 PM] Sven: But again, that's all of my public statement | |
| 48 | [2:18 PM] Trojaner: over 50 commits | |
| 49 | [2:18 PM] Sven: You can talk to me tomorrow, or not | |
| 50 | [2:18 PM] Trojaner: sandbox, scripting, fixing so that this shit compiles | |
| 51 | [2:18 PM] Sven: But stop the shit throwing like them kids on Twitter | |
| 52 | [2:19 PM] Trojaner: you just acted on yourself and removed my role, without talking at all | |
| 53 | [2:19 PM] Trojaner: very good :thumbsup: | |
| 54 | [2:19 PM] Sven: I have enough | |
| 55 | [2:19 PM] Trojaner: what was about the vote again | |
| 56 | [2:19 PM] Sven: 2 days of discussing about your obvious wrong doings | |
| 57 | [2:19 PM] Trojaner: there is none right? | |
| 58 | [2:19 PM] Trojaner: of me? | |
| 59 | [2:19 PM] Sven: On Christmas, I don't need that | |
| 60 | [2:19 PM] Sven: Too mutch drama tbh | |
| 61 | [2:19 PM] Trojaner: yea Lewis totally didnt cause this | |
| 62 | [2:20 PM] Trojaner: by randomly starting a bitch fight | |
| 63 | [2:20 PM] Trojaner: he could have asked me nicely | |
| 64 | [2:20 PM] Sven: He left 2 days ago | |
| 65 | [2:20 PM] Trojaner: and kindly explained it to me | |
| 66 | [2:20 PM] Trojaner: but no, lewis did it wrong | |
| 67 | [2:20 PM] Trojaner: you can look from any perspective you want | |
| 68 | [2:20 PM] Trojaner: lewis didnt do it right | |
| 69 | [2:20 PM] Sven: Both of you did | |
| 70 | [2:20 PM] Sven: Not do it right | |
| 71 | [2:20 PM] Sven: In any perspective | |
| 72 | [2:21 PM] Sven: So I don't know why you feel like I behaved unfairly | |
| 73 | [2:21 PM] Trojaner: he shouldnt have accused me of supporting cheaters for money, and he shouldnt have started it 2 days ago, and we all could be friends at the moment | |
| 74 | [2:21 PM] Sven: The difference is he is a fricking 13yo teen that does some mod support | |
| 75 | [2:21 PM] Trojaner: You obviously are ignorant to facts | |
| 76 | [2:21 PM] Trojaner: you claimed that I break Turkish law when I posted the law 4x | |
| 77 | [2:21 PM] Sven: And you are the diva that wants to lead the team as an example | |
| 78 | [2:22 PM] Trojaner: its like you dont read what I write at all | |
| 79 | [2:22 PM] Trojaner: just post again your opinion | |
| 80 | [2:22 PM] Sven: Ignoring that people on your website don't obey their law | |
| 81 | [2:22 PM] Trojaner: they do, they do not break any law at the moment | |
| 82 | [2:22 PM] Trojaner: if you find a law they break, let me know | |
| 83 | [2:22 PM] Sven: And telling me it's not a problem if nobody mentions it to you | |
| 84 | [2:23 PM] Trojaner: Sam was providing support, regardless of the document | |
| 85 | [2:23 PM] Trojaner: doesnt matter if its linked or not | |
| 86 | [2:23 PM] Sven: He said he won't | |
| 87 | [2:23 PM] Sven: He wrote that, that written word is what Lewis showed you as proof | |
| 88 | [2:23 PM] Trojaner: that document was made before he started creating paid plugins | |
| 89 | [2:24 PM] Sven: Your team member told you, and you have nothing else to do then to start a bitch fight and defend your developer that obviously did wrong, nice teamwork | |
| 90 | [2:24 PM] Trojaner: I didnt want any drama and told you like 2 times that I want to end the discussion | |
| 91 | [2:24 PM] Trojaner: but no, you just cant until I agree to your opnion | |
| 92 | [2:24 PM] Trojaner: Your team member told you, and you have nothing else to do then to start a bitch fight and defend your developer that obviously did wrong, nice teamwork I said to you in the past that I can not work with him | |
| 93 | [2:24 PM] Trojaner: and that I was gonna leave | |
| 94 | [2:24 PM] Sven: You ended the discussion with the words 'i know you are all wrong, Lewis was wrong, i am the king in the hood' | |
| 95 | [2:24 PM] Trojaner: you cant expect that from me | |
| 96 | [2:25 PM] Sven: You seem to not be constructive to the discussions nor consider this a friendly environment, a chat between friends, and you just don't suite this position if that's the case(edited) | |
| 97 | [2:26 PM] Trojaner: He accussed me of something, I proved him wrong | |
| 98 | [2:26 PM] Trojaner: the money support thing | |
| 99 | [2:26 PM] Sven: He was right tho | |
| 100 | [2:26 PM] Trojaner: he didnt even apologize for it | |
| 101 | [2:26 PM] Trojaner: no he was not | |
| 102 | [2:26 PM] Sven: Sam did write to not offer support | |
| 103 | [2:26 PM] Trojaner: instead of talking to me directly, he started accusing me stuff on my discord | |
| 104 | [2:26 PM] Trojaner: when I was away | |
| 105 | [2:26 PM] Trojaner: having a huge public discussion on it | |
| 106 | [2:27 PM] Trojaner: great teamwork he did there | |
| 107 | [2:27 PM] Trojaner: but there is no critizing from you | |
| 108 | [2:27 PM] Sven: He is out | |
| 109 | [2:27 PM] Sven: What would I say more | |
| 110 | [2:27 PM] Sven: He had the point, and you still can't see it | |
| 111 | [2:27 PM] Trojaner: his point was that some cheat developers - who also make unturned plugins - need to be banned | |
| 112 | [2:27 PM] Sven: He was all right to tell you, your first response was what made him go apes hit | |
| 113 | [2:28 PM] Trojaner: I had a different opnion since cheats werent involved in that discord | |
| 114 | [2:28 PM] Trojaner: no advertisment, no talking about it | |
| 115 | [2:28 PM] Trojaner: it doesnt matter if the opnion is right or not | |
| 116 | [2:28 PM] Trojaner: the way how he explained this to my whole discord pisses me off | |
| 117 | [2:28 PM] Trojaner: my first response was also to tell my moderators to not ban Lewis | |
| 118 | [2:28 PM] Sven: @Trojaner yep, another great example for how you don't give a fuck for us as a team, I fucking made observatory to ruin people's fun on cheating | |
| 119 | [2:29 PM] Simon: atleast I helped | |
| 120 | [2:29 PM] Sven: You make a discord, call it the Switzerland and expect that it's all ok to have cheaters in there | |
| 121 | [2:29 PM] Klaas: Hallo Simon :smile: | |
| 122 | 👌2 | |
| 123 | [2:29 PM] Trojaner: Did I agree to you on the end? | |
| 124 | [2:29 PM] Trojaner: ban those? | |
| 125 | [2:29 PM] Trojaner: yes I did | |
| 126 | [2:29 PM] Trojaner: you still throwing shit at me for it | |
| 127 | [2:29 PM] Mr.Kwabs: Having this on my second screen was a mistake | |
| 128 | [2:29 PM] Classified_: Uh, is this a bad time to ask for help about observatory? | |
| 129 | [2:29 PM] Sven: While being maintainer of fucking rocket | |
| 130 | [2:29 PM] Klaas: @Classified_ Try in #support(edited) | |
| 131 | [2:30 PM] Trojaner: You force me to enforce your policy on my discord | |
| 132 | [2:30 PM] Classified_: I'll just wait, ty | |
| 133 | [2:30 PM] Sven: @Trojaner you agree in the end? wth you tell me that Lewis has a point there too? Wow | |
| 134 | [2:30 PM] Trojaner: Its like you work on 2 different firms and one forces you to do stuff on the other one | |
| 135 | [2:30 PM] Sven: That is utter bullshit | |
| 136 | [2:30 PM] Trojaner: I was going to keep IP and Rocket separate, that no one woulkd affect the other | |
| 137 | [2:30 PM] Trojaner: but you forced me to choose a site | |
| 138 | [2:30 PM] Sven: It's your project, you want to support cheaters while being in team rocket | |
| 139 | [2:31 PM] Trojaner: its not supporting cheaters -_- | |
| 140 | [2:31 PM] Trojaner: if they would make advertisment about cheats on my discord | |
| 141 | [2:31 PM] Trojaner: I would agree on that | |
| 142 | [2:31 PM] Sven: By granting them immunity? | |
| 143 | [2:31 PM] Sven: Sounds like appreciation to me | |
| 144 | [2:31 PM] Sven: You just said you understood it was wrong | |
| 145 | [2:31 PM] Trojaner: immunity is if they break rules and i dont ban them | |
| 146 | [2:32 PM] Sven: Now you defend your decision | |
| 147 | [2:32 PM] Trojaner: the fact is that there was no such rule on my discord | |
| 148 | [2:32 PM] Trojaner: that being a cheat developer automatically bans you(edited) | |
| 149 | [2:32 PM] Sven: Uh yea, that's a problem | |
| 150 | [2:32 PM] Trojaner: after that I introduced that rule | |
| 151 | [2:32 PM] Trojaner: and banned them | |
| 152 | [2:32 PM] Sven: How would one change that | |
| 153 | [2:32 PM] Trojaner: even made an announcement | |
| 154 | [2:33 PM] Trojaner: but that is something in the past, we closed that topic already(edited) | |
| 155 | [2:33 PM] Trojaner: Just trying to make my point why I hate Lewis | |
| 156 | [2:33 PM] Trojaner: My point of view: | |
| 157 | [2:33 PM] Trojaner: We were talking 2 days before on discord about the Dashboard | |
| 158 | [2:33 PM] Trojaner: some days later I was playing a game with some friends(edited) | |
| 159 | [2:33 PM] Trojaner: switch to Discord | |
| 160 | [2:34 PM] Trojaner: just to see lewis throwing shit at me publicly, instead of contacting me(edited) | |
| 161 | [2:34 PM] Trojaner: cant expect me to have any respect for that guy left after that | |
| 162 | [2:35 PM] Sven: You hate him because he brought something up that you eventually found to be true? | |
| 163 | [2:35 PM] Sven: I mean the way he proposed it was really wrong | |
| 164 | [2:35 PM] Trojaner: it doesnt matter if its true or not | |
| 165 | [2:35 PM] Trojaner: the way how he did it | |
| 166 | [2:36 PM] Trojaner: thats what matters | |
| 167 | [2:36 PM] Sven: But the way you right away answered that is on a similar level | |
| 168 | [2:36 PM] Trojaner: no | |
| 169 | [2:36 PM] Trojaner: what did I do, explain me | |
| 170 | [2:36 PM] Sven: You didnt accept it | |
| 171 | [2:36 PM] Trojaner: I told my mods to not ban him | |
| 172 | [2:36 PM] Trojaner: I told people to not swear at him | |
| 173 | [2:36 PM] Sven: You did not accept the truth he told you | |
| 174 | [2:36 PM] Trojaner: but what does he do? | |
| 175 | [2:36 PM] Trojaner: he continues throwing shit at me | |
| 176 | [2:37 PM] Sven: Again, a 13 yo forum mod | |
| 177 | [2:37 PM] Trojaner: I do not accept that I actively supported cheaters for money, which he publicly claimed | |
| 178 | [2:37 PM] Sven: not a staf leader, no maintainer | |
| 179 | [2:37 PM] Trojaner: I might have been passively supporting it, because they requested to sell plugins on my discord(edited) | |
| 180 | [2:37 PM] Sven: he exaggerated, true, but you did support it |