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  1. [2014-01-11 19:43:13] -->| YOU (christino) have joined #quizbowl
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  3. [2014-01-11 19:43:13] =-= Topic for #quizbowl was set by codyvoight on Wednesday, January 08, 2014 11:53:58 AM
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  12. [2014-01-11 20:25:14] <WorstQEvr> the announcers seem befuddled as to why you would risk a safety instead of giving up the ball at your own 2
  13. [2014-01-11 20:25:18] <WorstQEvr> this seems pretty obvious to me
  14. [2014-01-11 20:26:24] <Golden_Kumquat> Even then, he was risking a touchdown by getting rid of the ball
  15. [2014-01-11 20:27:18] <WorstQEvr> yeah the primary answer is that he was just improvising nonsense because he was caught off guard
  16. [2014-01-11 20:27:19] <susan> grease, mattbo
  17. [2014-01-11 20:27:50] <WorstQEvr> but still, teams take intentional safeties in more planned versions of that situation all the time
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  19. [2014-01-11 20:30:26] <Golden_Kumquat> It still feels weird when the optimal strategy is to intentionally give up points to the other team or intentionally not score
  20. [2014-01-11 20:33:06] <DeisTwo> grease/fat is the key to drunk food
  21. [2014-01-11 20:33:16] <DeisTwo> or a bit of spicy sauce
  22. [2014-01-11 20:34:29] <MattBo> how often is that the optimal strategy
  23. [2014-01-11 20:35:11] <DeisTwo> depends, the latter is also more hangover stuff, like menudo
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  25. [2014-01-11 20:35:20] <DeisTwo> also, finger/hand food is part of it
  26. [2014-01-11 20:35:44] <DeisTwo> that, along with wings originally being cheap was why they were such a good bar item
  27. [2014-01-11 20:37:39] <DeisTwo> it overlaps a lot with munchie food
  28. [2014-01-11 20:38:39] <Golden_Kumquat> MattBo, it's happened in two Super Bowls in a row
  29. [2014-01-11 20:39:55] <DeisTwo> it's not that hard a calculation though, I mean that yardage/point value holds pretty true
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  33. [2014-01-11 20:45:02] <christino> there are rumors on the forums that some sort of convocation will occur at the eleventh hour tonight
  34. [2014-01-11 20:45:08] <christino> is that true
  35. [2014-01-11 20:46:21] <gberry1> no the snow pushed it back a few days
  36. [2014-01-11 20:46:25] <vig180> it is so if you think so
  37. [2014-01-11 20:46:55] <gberry1> it is now during the Ladue graduation
  38. [2014-01-11 20:47:18] <christino> hahaha no
  39. [2014-01-11 20:49:08] <gberry1> whats up, David?
  40. [2014-01-11 20:50:22] <davidseal> not much
  41. [2014-01-11 20:50:26] <davidseal> just watching football and working
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  43. [2014-01-11 20:52:52] <gberry1> cool
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  57. [2014-01-11 21:19:22] <InfiniteStryker0> i see cheesesteak talk died down
  58. [2014-01-11 21:21:13] <gberry1> yeah
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  64. [2014-01-11 21:27:44] <davidseal> was there a big fight over the deadspin article?
  65. [2014-01-11 21:34:07] <InfiniteStryker0> nah no fighting
  66. [2014-01-11 21:38:27] <DeisTwo> just a long debate over wit vs wiz
  67. [2014-01-11 21:44:15] <InfiniteStryker0> those aren't mutually exclusive
  68. [2014-01-11 21:44:28] <InfiniteStryker0> assuming my philly slang is correct
  69. [2014-01-11 21:45:32] <DeisTwo> I thought you just say cheese wit
  70. [2014-01-11 21:45:47] <DeisTwo> I'm not getting a cheesesteak anytime soon so it's moot to me
  71. [2014-01-11 21:45:50] <InfiniteStryker0> wiz is the type of cheese, wit referrs to whether you want onions or not
  72. [2014-01-11 21:45:58] <InfiniteStryker0> its two different variables
  73. [2014-01-11 21:46:16] <InfiniteStryker0> and yes, I did look that up before coming to penn haha
  74. [2014-01-11 21:46:17] <DeisTwo> ah
  75. [2014-01-11 21:47:12] <MattBo> oh, hey david
  76. [2014-01-11 21:50:24] <davidseal> howdy
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  81. [2014-01-11 21:56:25] <davidseal> is uva going to cane ridge at penn?
  82. [2014-01-11 21:56:29] <MattBo> yeah
  83. [2014-01-11 21:56:33] <davidseal> cool
  84. [2014-01-11 21:56:37] <davidseal> ill have to try to make it out then
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  91. [2014-01-11 22:01:25] <fred> hi
  92. [2014-01-11 22:01:40] <fred> i keep expecting that sidney from powhatan link to be something else
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  94. [2014-01-11 22:01:52] <fred> every time i click it
  95. [2014-01-11 22:03:05] <mbjackson> sup ppl
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  97. [2014-01-11 22:03:24] <fred> oh, is that team discussion happening now?
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  101. [2014-01-11 22:04:21] <HurrahPraga> theoretically. no idea what's going on
  102. [2014-01-11 22:04:23] <LaziestUsernameEver> Yeah, I guess.
  103. [2014-01-11 22:04:40] <LaziestUsernameEver> Dylan should be on in a bit.
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  106. [2014-01-11 22:05:15] <HurrahPraga> ok, cool. So are we just going to go through the poll and talk about each team?
  107. [2014-01-11 22:05:24] <LaziestUsernameEver> Yep.
  108. [2014-01-11 22:05:41] <HurrahPraga> Awesome
  109. [2014-01-11 22:06:25] <fred> ah ok
  110. [2014-01-11 22:06:33] <fred> i don't know how long i'll be awake
  111. [2014-01-11 22:06:38] <fred> this is well past when i usually go to bed
  112. [2014-01-11 22:06:41] <fred> (old)
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  115. [2014-01-11 22:07:28] <Isaack-d> why weren't you at new Kent sameen?
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  117. [2014-01-11 22:07:47] <SameenB> I had family over plus ride issues
  118. [2014-01-11 22:07:59] <SameenB> also if we had come, we would have only been a two man team
  119. [2014-01-11 22:08:03] <SameenB> and that doesn't turn out well
  120. [2014-01-11 22:08:07] <Isaack-d> I feel yoy
  121. [2014-01-11 22:08:28] <mib_nue93v> hello
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  123. [2014-01-11 22:09:00] <fred> man, blount
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  125. [2014-01-11 22:09:11] <fred> just running
  126. [2014-01-11 22:09:18] <Dylan> oh legarrette blount
  127. [2014-01-11 22:09:23] <Isaack-d> he's going off
  128. [2014-01-11 22:09:36] <SameenB> 4 tds
  129. [2014-01-11 22:09:37] <SameenB> insane
  130. [2014-01-11 22:09:40] <Dylan> i'm running out of teams i don't hate in these playoffs
  131. [2014-01-11 22:09:40] <mib_nue93v> yea
  132. [2014-01-11 22:09:46] <mib_nue93v> 73 yarder was sweet
  133. [2014-01-11 22:09:55] <mib_nue93v> someone will overpay for him in the offseason
  134. [2014-01-11 22:10:19] <davidseal> the real lesson from this game is that vince wilfork looks hilarious without his helmet
  135. [2014-01-11 22:10:27] <fred> haha
  136. [2014-01-11 22:10:32] <SameenB> agreed
  137. [2014-01-11 22:10:41] <mib_nue93v> lol
  138. [2014-01-11 22:10:48] <LaziestUsernameEver> OK, so I guess we can start now.
  139. [2014-01-11 22:11:19] <LaziestUsernameEver> Not really sure how this is supposed to go down, but I guess it's just "name a team, talk about them", right?
  140. [2014-01-11 22:11:21] <davidseal> right now the best team to root for in these playoffs are the panthers
  141. [2014-01-11 22:11:30] <mib_nue93v> start from the top?
  142. [2014-01-11 22:11:38] <HurrahPraga> Eagles to take it all. There's still hope
  143. [2014-01-11 22:11:45] <Dylan> we started from the bottom for the college poll
  144. [2014-01-11 22:11:50] <davidseal> fuck them\
  145. [2014-01-11 22:11:54] <mib_nue93v> lol as a die hard seahawks fan im a bit worried
  146. [2014-01-11 22:11:58] <mib_nue93v> But not too worried
  147. [2014-01-11 22:11:59] <davidseal> fuck you
  148. [2014-01-11 22:12:12] <HurrahPraga> seatlle has a massive homefield advantage. superbowl, at least
  149. [2014-01-11 22:12:14] <fred> hey virginians: what would be the local newspaper for clover hill?
  150. [2014-01-11 22:12:21] <Dylan> i'm waiting for texas a&m to sue the collective seahawks fanbase
  151. [2014-01-11 22:12:27] <mib_nue93v> Pat, thats not to be taken for granted
  152. [2014-01-11 22:12:31] <fred> that's already happened, dylan
  153. [2014-01-11 22:12:36] <fred> not the fan base, obviously, but the seahawks
  154. [2014-01-11 22:12:41] <mib_nue93v> The Panthers and 49ers are both great teams, i wont deny it
  155. [2014-01-11 22:12:44] <Dylan> not really surprised
  156. [2014-01-11 22:12:47] <LaziestUsernameEver> Alright, the bottom then. That's Guilford.
  157. [2014-01-11 22:12:52] <HurrahPraga> No, but its probably going to happen
  158. [2014-01-11 22:13:08] <Dylan> alright then
  159. [2014-01-11 22:13:10] <HurrahPraga> anyone from nc?
  160. [2014-01-11 22:13:26] <SameenB> i played them
  161. [2014-01-11 22:13:28] <davidseal> oh man its time for the tearful goodbye to dan dierdorf
  162. [2014-01-11 22:13:29] <Dylan> I personally know nothing abut Guilford but they tend to surprise people come Nats time
  163. [2014-01-11 22:13:45] <davidseal> put on the sarah maclachlan
  164. [2014-01-11 22:14:01] <davidseal> also he was comically wrong on that punter issue earlier tonight
  165. [2014-01-11 22:14:01] <LaziestUsernameEver> I was under the impression that the better NC team was Raleigh Charter or something.
  166. [2014-01-11 22:14:04] <HurrahPraga> sameen, what did they look like?
  167. [2014-01-11 22:14:27] <fred> oh is dierdorf leaving?
  168. [2014-01-11 22:14:32] <davidseal> yep
  169. [2014-01-11 22:14:33] <fred> he's... not an awful announcer for the most part
  170. [2014-01-11 22:14:39] <SameenB> they were balanced
  171. [2014-01-11 22:14:45] <fred> certainly not excellent but i never thought he was awfully bad
  172. [2014-01-11 22:15:14] <SameenB> Elizabeth was very solid in science
  173. [2014-01-11 22:15:18] <davidseal> i havent seen him too much as i rarely watch minor afc games, but ive not heard good things
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  182. [2014-01-11 22:17:27] <mib_nue93v> Seem decent to me
  183. [2014-01-11 22:17:27] <SameenB> Guilford B was strong too
  184. [2014-01-11 22:17:30] <fred> apparently LASA has a fondue club
  185. [2014-01-11 22:17:34] <fred> please work that into the preview
  186. [2014-01-11 22:17:35] <mib_nue93v> about 23ish ppb on IS
  187. [2014-01-11 22:17:40] <mib_nue93v> and a decent power rate
  188. [2014-01-11 22:17:41] <LaziestUsernameEver> Noted, Fred.
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  192. [2014-01-11 22:18:33] <mib_95x91> We have a fondue club?
  193. [2014-01-11 22:18:39] <fred> per wiki
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  195. [2014-01-11 22:18:42] <mib_95x91> We have a jam club
  196. [2014-01-11 22:18:51] <mib_95x91> I think fondue might be defunct
  197. [2014-01-11 22:19:10] <mib_nue93v> ok
  198. [2014-01-11 22:19:13] <mib_nue93v> cool
  199. [2014-01-11 22:19:15] <HurrahPraga> I never thought I'd hear that
  200. [2014-01-11 22:19:19] <HurrahPraga> Read
  201. [2014-01-11 22:19:37] <Isaack-d> im trying to start a shaman club at my school
  202. [2014-01-11 22:19:40] <fred> yeah, i have no idea what a fondue club would do.
  203. [2014-01-11 22:19:51] <fred> ECG's most interesting tidbit on wikipedia is that....
  204. [2014-01-11 22:19:53] <HurrahPraga> eat fondue all day? I could go for that
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  206. [2014-01-11 22:20:10] <mib_nue93v> who is the next team?
  207. [2014-01-11 22:20:12] <fred> i guess they don't have sports teams
  208. [2014-01-11 22:20:19] <mib_95x91> Jam club does Chopped style competitions
  209. [2014-01-11 22:20:19] <InfiniteStryker0> woah, conversation
  210. [2014-01-11 22:20:21] <LaziestUsernameEver> I'm guessing there's not much else to say about ECG.
  211. [2014-01-11 22:20:23] <mib_95x91> Teachers love it, cause they can judge
  212. [2014-01-11 22:20:23] <fred> except for an unofficial ultimate team
  213. [2014-01-11 22:20:37] <fred> ecg's best stat line was at bonfire of the manatees
  214. [2014-01-11 22:20:39] <LaziestUsernameEver> Next team is Ezell-Harding.
  215. [2014-01-11 22:20:40] <fred> per aPPB
  216. [2014-01-11 22:20:41] <HurrahPraga> next up is Ezell-Harding, if we're moving on
  217. [2014-01-11 22:20:44] <HurrahPraga> oops, ninjas
  218. [2014-01-11 22:20:46] <InfiniteStryker0> oh, hs qb
  219. [2014-01-11 22:20:48] <InfiniteStryker0> blargh
  220. [2014-01-11 22:20:54] <fred> yeah, it's a thing
  221. [2014-01-11 22:20:54] <mib_nue93v> Dont know who they r
  222. [2014-01-11 22:21:28] <HurrahPraga> does anyone hear know them?
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  224. [2014-01-11 22:21:37] <fred> they did well at wku hilltopper
  225. [2014-01-11 22:21:42] <Dylan> I think most of their scoring comes from Griffin Ray?
  226. [2014-01-11 22:21:57] <mib_nue93v> which teams have they beaten?
  227. [2014-01-11 22:22:01] <fred> arguably did better there than dupont manual did
  228. [2014-01-11 22:22:02] <LaziestUsernameEver> Yeah, Griffin does most of the scoring.
  229. [2014-01-11 22:22:21] <ltholden> Yeah, they're alright. They beat Dupont, Corbin, and Gatton
  230. [2014-01-11 22:22:40] <ltholden> No didn't beat. never mind
  231. [2014-01-11 22:22:43] <ltholden> placed higher
  232. [2014-01-11 22:22:45] <fred> they're good
  233. [2014-01-11 22:22:48] <vig180> they have a lot of ACE training since their coach is an ACE founder
  234. [2014-01-11 22:22:54] <vig180> not sure how well that plays at higher levels
  235. [2014-01-11 22:22:59] <fred> it's a little muddy how good at this time
  236. [2014-01-11 22:23:00] <HurrahPraga> that has to count for something
  237. [2014-01-11 22:23:02] <LaziestUsernameEver> They also won at Brookwood, but no real stats were really kept there.
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  239. [2014-01-11 22:23:12] <vig180> the Memphis teams still talk about how "that team" came over and destroyed them all last year
  240. [2014-01-11 22:23:27] <fred> they do pretty well at hsnct
  241. [2014-01-11 22:23:35] <mib_nue93v> dupont i thought was really good
  242. [2014-01-11 22:23:35] <fred> 8-5 at hsnct last year
  243. [2014-01-11 22:23:38] <vig180> they do like to travel as well
  244. [2014-01-11 22:23:43] <fred> 7-5 the year before
  245. [2014-01-11 22:23:44] <vig180> apparently they played USN's tournament today too
  246. [2014-01-11 22:23:53] <HurrahPraga> well antioch appears to be in the middle of nowhere, so that could be them
  247. [2014-01-11 22:24:04] <ltholden> They beat Oak Ridge
  248. [2014-01-11 22:24:16] <vig180> Antioch is a suburb of Nashville
  249. [2014-01-11 22:24:22] <LaziestUsernameEver> Doesn't seem to have been Oak Ridge's full A team, though.
  250. [2014-01-11 22:24:26] <mib_nue93v> alright, it can be debated how good oak ridge is i guess...
  251. [2014-01-11 22:24:28] <vig180> their coach is now principal of the school apparently
  252. [2014-01-11 22:24:38] <ltholden> They've been like in the lower-upper tier since Griffin got good.
  253. [2014-01-11 22:24:42] <HurrahPraga> oh, well last time i trust google maps
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  255. [2014-01-11 22:25:05] <LaziestUsernameEver> USN had a tournament today? Using what?
  256. [2014-01-11 22:25:11] <vig180> their own housewrite
  257. [2014-01-11 22:25:32] <LaziestUsernameEver> Huh.
  258. [2014-01-11 22:26:01] <mib_nue93v> ok
  259. [2014-01-11 22:26:06] <mib_nue93v> anything else to add?
  260. [2014-01-11 22:26:16] <mib_nue93v> they seem solid
  261. [2014-01-11 22:26:20] <vig180> I think almost all their top players graduate this year
  262. [2014-01-11 22:26:57] <Dylan> yeah i think griffin is a senior
  263. [2014-01-11 22:27:20] <ltholden> I expect they'll continue fielding solid teams after this year, but Griffin is the reason they're above just OK
  264. [2014-01-11 22:27:24] <mib_nue93v> next team?
  265. [2014-01-11 22:27:29] <HurrahPraga> oak ridge
  266. [2014-01-11 22:27:30] <ltholden> Oak Ridge
  267. [2014-01-11 22:27:36] <mib_nue93v> Alright
  268. [2014-01-11 22:27:36] <HurrahPraga> they beat high tech A at hsnct last year
  269. [2014-01-11 22:27:42] <HurrahPraga> but that's all i have
  270. [2014-01-11 22:27:44] <mib_nue93v> They are a one man team
  271. [2014-01-11 22:27:47] <samus149> that was a funny und for you guys
  272. [2014-01-11 22:27:47] <mib_nue93v> it seems
  273. [2014-01-11 22:27:50] <samus149> *round
  274. [2014-01-11 22:27:52] <Dylan> i remember high bonus conversion at UK's tourney
  275. [2014-01-11 22:27:57] <mib_nue93v> yes
  276. [2014-01-11 22:28:00] <mib_nue93v> really high
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  278. [2014-01-11 22:28:06] <mib_nue93v> decent finish as well
  279. [2014-01-11 22:28:09] <mib_nue93v> but no other stats
  280. [2014-01-11 22:28:14] <fred> yeah
  281. [2014-01-11 22:28:14] <mib_nue93v> to confirm such sentiments
  282. [2014-01-11 22:28:18] <fred> well
  283. [2014-01-11 22:28:23] <LaziestUsernameEver> I read on the forums that UK was the only time they had their full team this year.
  284. [2014-01-11 22:28:25] <fred> teams don't just stumble into PPBs like that
  285. [2014-01-11 22:28:29] <mib_nue93v> yes
  286. [2014-01-11 22:28:30] <mib_nue93v> correct
  287. [2014-01-11 22:28:39] <mib_nue93v> they are definetly good
  288. [2014-01-11 22:28:43] <mib_nue93v> just how good
  289. [2014-01-11 22:28:45] <HurrahPraga> so they're potentially underanked
  290. [2014-01-11 22:28:49] <mib_nue93v> on a consistent basis
  291. [2014-01-11 22:28:54] <mib_nue93v> remains to be seen
  292. [2014-01-11 22:28:57] <fred> and i'm pretty certain there wasn't any significant stat errors
  293. [2014-01-11 22:29:01] <Dylan> I wouldn't be surprised if they pull an upset at nats
  294. [2014-01-11 22:29:01] <fred> yeah, that's a key question
  295. [2014-01-11 22:29:09] <fred> i have them 10th in my rankings, for whatever that's worth
  296. [2014-01-11 22:29:15] <vig180> I have heard their top player is very erratic in terms of what tournaments he'll play
  297. [2014-01-11 22:29:25] <mib_nue93v> which teams did they beat at UK?
  298. [2014-01-11 22:29:35] <LaziestUsernameEver> They beat DCC A.
  299. [2014-01-11 22:29:38] <mib_95x91> They beat Chatt and DCC A
  300. [2014-01-11 22:29:40] <mib_nue93v> Ok
  301. [2014-01-11 22:29:51] <fred> yeah
  302. [2014-01-11 22:30:01] <mib_95x91> Had a close match with Northmont too
  303. [2014-01-11 22:30:03] <fred> i think they finished 5th?
  304. [2014-01-11 22:30:09] <fred> it's been a few months and a few sets of block exams
  305. [2014-01-11 22:30:11] <LaziestUsernameEver> Which are pretty impressive wins, since they're pretty unknown.
  306. [2014-01-11 22:30:11] <mib_nue93v> pretty solid finish
  307. [2014-01-11 22:30:15] <mib_nue93v> at that tournament
  308. [2014-01-11 22:30:26] [ERROR] No match for ``mib_mue93''.
  309. [2014-01-11 22:30:36] <mib_nue93v> any other comments
  310. [2014-01-11 22:30:37] <mib_nue93v> ?
  311. [2014-01-11 22:30:47] <christino> mib_nue93v: who are you? LASA?
  312. [2014-01-11 22:30:57] <HurrahPraga> why are there two mib's @.@
  313. [2014-01-11 22:31:07] =-= mib_95x91 is now known as LASAkid
  314. [2014-01-11 22:31:08] <Dylan> i think it's the default mibbit name
  315. [2014-01-11 22:31:12] <mib_nue93v> Im from Charter
  316. [2014-01-11 22:31:12] <LASAkid> Let's do that
  317. [2014-01-11 22:31:24] <mib_nue93v> can i change my name?
  318. [2014-01-11 22:31:25] <HurrahPraga> oh ok, this makes more sense now
  319. [2014-01-11 22:31:33] <LASAkid> use / nick without the space
  320. [2014-01-11 22:31:39] <LASAkid> like
  321. [2014-01-11 22:31:42] =-= LASAkid is now known as charterkid
  322. [2014-01-11 22:31:45] <charterkid> darn
  323. [2014-01-11 22:31:46] =-= mib_nue93v is now known as ChunkySean
  324. [2014-01-11 22:31:48] =-= charterkid is now known as lasakid
  325. [2014-01-11 22:31:53] <Dylan> oh high mohan
  326. [2014-01-11 22:31:55] <fred> ./nick whatever
  327. [2014-01-11 22:31:58] <fred> just delete the period
  328. [2014-01-11 22:32:00] <Dylan> *hi
  329. [2014-01-11 22:32:07] <ChunkySean> Hullo
  330. [2014-01-11 22:32:09] <HurrahPraga> wait mohan's been here the whole time
  331. [2014-01-11 22:32:11] <fred> the only complaint i really have to make about the poll results, other than the "also receiving votes" section being... wrong
  332. [2014-01-11 22:32:20] <fred> is that oak ridge is underrated by a few spots
  333. [2014-01-11 22:32:28] <fred> i don't know if they're actually 10th in the country
  334. [2014-01-11 22:32:34] <fred> but i think they're better than 24th
  335. [2014-01-11 22:32:35] <ChunkySean> Hey Pat
  336. [2014-01-11 22:32:41] <HurrahPraga> hey mohan
  337. [2014-01-11 22:32:51] <LaziestUsernameEver> Welp, let's move on to the next team then?
  338. [2014-01-11 22:32:53] <HurrahPraga> yeah, considering who they've beaten they look a bit under
  339. [2014-01-11 22:32:56] <LaziestUsernameEver> Unless people want to say more.
  340. [2014-01-11 22:33:05] <fred> i've got to get to bed
  341. [2014-01-11 22:33:07] <fred> had a long day
  342. [2014-01-11 22:33:11] <ChunkySean> we can continue
  343. [2014-01-11 22:33:14] <dendroicavirens> What didn't you like about the "also" section, Fred?
  344. [2014-01-11 22:33:19] <fred> if you guys have specific questions, email me
  345. [2014-01-11 22:33:21] <fred> like
  346. [2014-01-11 22:33:24] <HurrahPraga> who's next? dunbar?
  347. [2014-01-11 22:33:25] <fred> teams getting votes that really shouldn't
  348. [2014-01-11 22:33:27] <christino> so they're pretty much "dark horse who may be really good but not enough results"?
  349. [2014-01-11 22:33:32] <fred> nitpicky things
  350. [2014-01-11 22:33:41] <vig180> they aren't scheduled for any other TN tournaments that I can find
  351. [2014-01-11 22:33:50] <LaziestUsernameEver> Pretty much.
  352. [2014-01-11 22:33:54] <ChunkySean> DUnbar seems decent but inconsistent
  353. [2014-01-11 22:33:57] <vig180> so definitely a "wild card" if they show up to nats at full force
  354. [2014-01-11 22:34:05] <fred> i don't get torrey pines where they are
  355. [2014-01-11 22:34:13] <fred> i don't know why you'd vote for wilmington charter b at all
  356. [2014-01-11 22:34:17] <Dylan> Dunbar won the UK tourney
  357. [2014-01-11 22:34:21] <fred> livingston is weird
  358. [2014-01-11 22:34:24] <fred> dunbar ended up winning the UK tourney
  359. [2014-01-11 22:34:26] <fred> yeah
  360. [2014-01-11 22:34:35] <fred> it didn't help them much in hsqbrank
  361. [2014-01-11 22:34:40] <ChunkySean> Charter B handily beat Dunbar at HFT, so its seems they might be prone to upsets
  362. [2014-01-11 22:34:41] <fred> but, you know, wins are important too
  363. [2014-01-11 22:34:45] <vig180> Torrey Pines is a mess because DoWon won't play anything, the team has splintered into a couple of different organizations due to liability issues and internal conflicts
  364. [2014-01-11 22:34:46] <samus149> livingston has always been weird
  365. [2014-01-11 22:34:55] <ChunkySean> yea lol
  366. [2014-01-11 22:34:57] <ChunkySean> again
  367. [2014-01-11 22:34:59] <HurrahPraga> mohan, didn't you get upgraded to charter a? or is that just for skype league
  368. [2014-01-11 22:35:01] <samus149> they got 2nd at scarsdale today but los t the final by over 400 points
  369. [2014-01-11 22:35:02] <fred> i mean, i don't see why livingston is getting votes
  370. [2014-01-11 22:35:09] <ChunkySean> lol its complicated...
  371. [2014-01-11 22:35:09] <badger> they were really inconsistent today
  372. [2014-01-11 22:35:12] <fred> but oh well
  373. [2014-01-11 22:35:13] <badger> I think they just got tired
  374. [2014-01-11 22:35:13] <fred> anyway
  375. [2014-01-11 22:35:14] <HurrahPraga> yeah, they're not exactly top 25
  376. [2014-01-11 22:35:15] <fred> good night
  377. [2014-01-11 22:35:19] <badger> They had 450+ margins all day and then tanked in the final
  378. [2014-01-11 22:35:21] <HurrahPraga> night
  379. [2014-01-11 22:35:22] <badger> but they're not top 25
  380. [2014-01-11 22:35:22] <LaziestUsernameEver> Later Fred.
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  382. [2014-01-11 22:35:26] <HurrahPraga> granted, a set
  383. [2014-01-11 22:35:29] <ChunkySean> lol so on IS Set, Charter B beat Livingston by 500
  384. [2014-01-11 22:35:34] <ChunkySean> but
  385. [2014-01-11 22:35:38] <ChunkySean> They have beaten our A team
  386. [2014-01-11 22:35:39] <ChunkySean> before
  387. [2014-01-11 22:35:41] <ChunkySean> so....
  388. [2014-01-11 22:35:42] <HurrahPraga> didn't you get promoted mohan?
  389. [2014-01-11 22:35:46] <ChunkySean> No
  390. [2014-01-11 22:35:48] <ChunkySean> well
  391. [2014-01-11 22:35:51] <ChunkySean> I dont want to
  392. [2014-01-11 22:36:02] <HurrahPraga> alright then
  393. [2014-01-11 22:36:06] <ChunkySean> I mean Its my spot if I would choose to take it
  394. [2014-01-11 22:36:10] <ChunkySean> Its like HIgh Tech last year
  395. [2014-01-11 22:36:16] <ChunkySean> Rohan playing on C team
  396. [2014-01-11 22:36:26] <HurrahPraga> yeah, that was a bit sketchy
  397. [2014-01-11 22:36:28] <samus149> too much northeast!
  398. [2014-01-11 22:36:44] <HurrahPraga> yeah, does anyone know anything more about dunbar?
  399. [2014-01-11 22:36:54] <ChunkySean> They are inconsistent
  400. [2014-01-11 22:36:55] <HurrahPraga> is dylan even in this chat anymore, or did we drive him out?
  401. [2014-01-11 22:36:59] <ChunkySean> but have potential i guess
  402. [2014-01-11 22:37:05] <christino> hang on
  403. [2014-01-11 22:37:20] <Dylan> no i'm here
  404. [2014-01-11 22:37:20] <christino> contacting kentucky kid who talks to me (kieren weisert)
  405. [2014-01-11 22:37:28] <Dylan> this is not my area of expertise
  406. [2014-01-11 22:37:29] <HurrahPraga> alright, cool
  407. [2014-01-11 22:37:32] <ltholden> I see Dunbar as an upset specialist basically
  408. [2014-01-11 22:37:48] <ChunkySean> or someone who could be upset...
  409. [2014-01-11 22:37:50] <LaziestUsernameEver> Same.
  410. [2014-01-11 22:37:53] <LaziestUsernameEver> That, too.
  411. [2014-01-11 22:38:09] <HurrahPraga> so not consistent enough for dark horse?
  412. [2014-01-11 22:38:20] <ChunkySean> dark horse contender ?
  413. [2014-01-11 22:38:23] <christino> yeah
  414. [2014-01-11 22:38:23] <MattBo> man who are all these people
  415. [2014-01-11 22:38:37] <ChunkySean> id say probably say no, but then again who knows lol
  416. [2014-01-11 22:38:56] <HurrahPraga> haha fair enough, upset specialist it is
  417. [2014-01-11 22:38:57] <Isaack-d> Oakland mills is the ultimate dark horse
  418. [2014-01-11 22:38:57] <samus149> HurrahPraga - Pat, High Tech Captain, ChunkySean - Mohan, Charter B, me - Sean, High Tech
  419. [2014-01-11 22:39:09] <christino> they are a contender to be a dark horse, but not yet a dark horse
  420. [2014-01-11 22:39:10] <christino> i guess
  421. [2014-01-11 22:39:13] <ChunkySean> Oh hey Sean
  422. [2014-01-11 22:39:19] <HurrahPraga> talking about teams in kentucky we know nothing about :)
  423. [2014-01-11 22:39:28] <ChunkySean> ive only played them once
  424. [2014-01-11 22:39:34] <ChunkySean> so cant say more than what i have
  425. [2014-01-11 22:39:51] <LaziestUsernameEver> We still waiting on any Dunbar info?
  426. [2014-01-11 22:39:57] <christino> yeah carry on
  427. [2014-01-11 22:40:03] <Isaack-d> in fact Oakland mills might be THE NOST UNPREDICTABLE TEAM IN QUIZBOWL
  428. [2014-01-11 22:40:04] <christino> until the guy responds or enters this chat move on
  429. [2014-01-11 22:40:11] <LaziestUsernameEver> OK, next team.
  430. [2014-01-11 22:40:13] <LaziestUsernameEver> Wilmington Charter.
  431. [2014-01-11 22:40:16] <ChunkySean> LOL
  432. [2014-01-11 22:40:22] <HurrahPraga> Charter's pretty good
  433. [2014-01-11 22:40:26] <LaziestUsernameEver> So Charter kids: Talk.
  434. [2014-01-11 22:40:30] <HurrahPraga> who's on your a team?
  435. [2014-01-11 22:40:31] <Dylan> they seem to have consistency problems but are pretty solid
  436. [2014-01-11 22:40:33] <HurrahPraga> naman does science
  437. [2014-01-11 22:40:37] <ChunkySean> Lol
  438. [2014-01-11 22:40:41] <ChunkySean> so they have some Gaps
  439. [2014-01-11 22:40:43] <HurrahPraga> varun is history, but really inconsistent
  440. [2014-01-11 22:40:45] <ChunkySean> if i am not on A team
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  442. [2014-01-11 22:40:55] <HurrahPraga> like, really good sometimes and then tanks
  443. [2014-01-11 22:40:58] <HurrahPraga> he might have improved though
  444. [2014-01-11 22:41:01] <HurrahPraga> since Octooer
  445. [2014-01-11 22:41:08] <ChunkySean> Yea
  446. [2014-01-11 22:41:10] <ChunkySean> Varun in October
  447. [2014-01-11 22:41:15] <ChunkySean> had some negging problems
  448. [2014-01-11 22:41:22] <ChunkySean> and he was forgetting some easy stuff
  449. [2014-01-11 22:41:26] <ChunkySean> that he studied last year
  450. [2014-01-11 22:41:27] <SameenB> I've never seen Jaimie play but she puts up good stats
  451. [2014-01-11 22:41:34] <ChunkySean> Jaimie lol......
  452. [2014-01-11 22:41:36] <HurrahPraga> Jaimie's good at lit
  453. [2014-01-11 22:41:38] <badger> she's tricky
  454. [2014-01-11 22:41:40] <ChunkySean> well
  455. [2014-01-11 22:41:44] <ChunkySean> the thign with her is
  456. [2014-01-11 22:41:44] <christino> how well would you say they could do at nats?
  457. [2014-01-11 22:41:50] <HurrahPraga> even though charter insists she's a generalist :P
  458. [2014-01-11 22:41:52] <ChunkySean> She has read like a bajillion books
  459. [2014-01-11 22:41:58] <samus149> So...next team then
  460. [2014-01-11 22:42:07] <ChunkySean> but doesnt know clues
  461. [2014-01-11 22:42:08] <ChunkySean> yea
  462. [2014-01-11 22:42:13] <ChunkySean> i think we have said more than enoguh
  463. [2014-01-11 22:42:15] <HurrahPraga> oh, so too much real knowledge?
  464. [2014-01-11 22:42:18] <HurrahPraga> haha
  465. [2014-01-11 22:42:28] <LaziestUsernameEver> Alright, then.
  466. [2014-01-11 22:42:34] <LaziestUsernameEver> Next is...
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  468. [2014-01-11 22:42:42] <LaziestUsernameEver> St. Joseph. The NJ one.
  469. [2014-01-11 22:42:47] <ChunkySean> Nice
  470. [2014-01-11 22:42:49] <HurrahPraga> Jack is the single best player in NJ
  471. [2014-01-11 22:42:50] <HurrahPraga> and NY
  472. [2014-01-11 22:42:54] <Dylan> Jack is very good
  473. [2014-01-11 22:42:54] <HurrahPraga> and New England
  474. [2014-01-11 22:42:56] <ChunkySean> So Jack is fantastic
  475. [2014-01-11 22:42:56] <HurrahPraga> and probably DE
  476. [2014-01-11 22:43:00] <HurrahPraga> and MA
  477. [2014-01-11 22:43:00] <ChunkySean> he gets some help
  478. [2014-01-11 22:43:04] <HurrahPraga> and PA
  479. [2014-01-11 22:43:09] <ChunkySean> overrall a good team
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  481. [2014-01-11 22:43:11] <HurrahPraga> basically the single best player in the NE
  482. [2014-01-11 22:43:12] <Dylan> they dissappointed at nats last year though
  483. [2014-01-11 22:43:16] <ChunkySean> Yea
  484. [2014-01-11 22:43:17] <Dylan> could be a warning
  485. [2014-01-11 22:43:21] <christino> i don't see them doing that well at nats
  486. [2014-01-11 22:43:21] <HurrahPraga> One man teams always do ba
  487. [2014-01-11 22:43:22] <HurrahPraga> *Bad
  488. [2014-01-11 22:43:23] <ChunkySean> we played em in consolation and lost by a TU
  489. [2014-01-11 22:43:25] <LaziestUsernameEver> Yeah, that 5-5 was strange.
  490. [2014-01-11 22:43:25] <HurrahPraga> i think they hit that wall
  491. [2014-01-11 22:43:34] <ChunkySean> and charter b sucked last year
  492. [2014-01-11 22:43:35] <christino> maybe the level of belvidere north or something
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  494. [2014-01-11 22:43:36] <ChunkySean> we were terrible
  495. [2014-01-11 22:43:43] <Dylan> Jack was impressive at NASAT though so who knows
  496. [2014-01-11 22:43:46] <ChunkySean> so it seems like St Joes had problems on the harder set
  497. [2014-01-11 22:43:57] <ChunkySean> Maybe he needs a better team to support him
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  499. [2014-01-11 22:44:02] <HurrahPraga> Jack did well at NASAT though
  500. [2014-01-11 22:44:06] <HurrahPraga> definitely needs a better team
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  502. [2014-01-11 22:44:13] <HurrahPraga> they have greg, but he only does so much
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  504. [2014-01-11 22:44:20] <ChunkySean> Greg is history
  505. [2014-01-11 22:44:23] <ChunkySean> which Jack also knows
  506. [2014-01-11 22:44:24] <ChunkySean> so...
  507. [2014-01-11 22:44:25] <HurrahPraga> jack is history
  508. [2014-01-11 22:44:32] <samus149> St. Joes has everything except science
  509. [2014-01-11 22:44:35] <badger> really? he seems to do well on harder sets. whenever I've practiced with him he's just as good at acf regionals as anything else
  510. [2014-01-11 22:44:37] <HurrahPraga> greg doesn't really buzz when we play them
  511. [2014-01-11 22:44:41] <samus149> And isn't as good on higher level questions
  512. [2014-01-11 22:44:41] <InfiniteStryker0> seems to be a common problem
  513. [2014-01-11 22:45:04] <samus149> Though they do have a low neg rate I believe
  514. [2014-01-11 22:45:06] <ChunkySean> yes
  515. [2014-01-11 22:45:11] <ChunkySean> Not much science
  516. [2014-01-11 22:45:15] <ChunkySean> but jack doesnt neg
  517. [2014-01-11 22:45:20] <christino> is this a "how well teams are gonna do at nats" discussion or "let's talk about how teams are good and some gooder" discussion
  518. [2014-01-11 22:45:21] <ChunkySean> Anything else?
  519. [2014-01-11 22:45:23] <HurrahPraga> They probably hit the one man team wall at HSNCT. playoffs for sure this year
  520. [2014-01-11 22:45:39] <Dylan> maybe they could benefit from being more aggressive?
  521. [2014-01-11 22:46:06] <samus149> Jack doesn't strike me as a guy that sits on things
  522. [2014-01-11 22:46:07] <HurrahPraga> it's hard to tell if Jack's buzzing when he knows the answer or if he's waiting. he's pretty impassive
  523. [2014-01-11 22:46:17] <samus149> I think he's around the cap on what he's gonna know in his subjects
  524. [2014-01-11 22:46:28] <HurrahPraga> more players being constructive
  525. [2014-01-11 22:47:10] <HurrahPraga> so is that all for st. joes?
  526. [2014-01-11 22:47:15] <ChunkySean> I think so
  527. [2014-01-11 22:47:20] <christino> so "one-man team who may have hit the wall and might not do too well at nats"?
  528. [2014-01-11 22:47:30] <LaziestUsernameEver> Next is Carbondale.
  529. [2014-01-11 22:47:35] <samus149> Yeah, no more Northeast for a while
  530. [2014-01-11 22:47:38] <ChunkySean> Carbondale isnt that good to me
  531. [2014-01-11 22:47:40] <ChunkySean> really overrated
  532. [2014-01-11 22:47:44] <ChunkySean> as for wins
  533. [2014-01-11 22:47:45] <HurrahPraga> the one man team wall that everyone seems to hit
  534. [2014-01-11 22:47:46] <ChunkySean> PPB is solid
  535. [2014-01-11 22:47:56] <Dylan> Carbondale is weird
  536. [2014-01-11 22:48:04] <HurrahPraga> last year, at pace, carbondale got 8/10 tossups and we got 2. we were winning at halftime
  537. [2014-01-11 22:48:07] <HurrahPraga> so they need better ppb
  538. [2014-01-11 22:48:17] <ChunkySean> This year
  539. [2014-01-11 22:48:18] <Dylan> I've seen them play a decent amount, they always put up bonus stats
  540. [2014-01-11 22:48:19] <HurrahPraga> might've fixed it though
  541. [2014-01-11 22:48:19] <christino> well that's what driving them up
  542. [2014-01-11 22:48:27] <ChunkySean> it seems they consistenly lose to not as good teams
  543. [2014-01-11 22:48:34] <ChunkySean> but have good PPB
  544. [2014-01-11 22:48:46] <Dylan> but they negged themselves out of top bracket at New Trier and then had to leave early due to weather
  545. [2014-01-11 22:48:53] <ChunkySean> they will probably have a decent finish at nats
  546. [2014-01-11 22:48:54] <HurrahPraga> oh really? maybe that was just a weird game. they were pretty solid last year
  547. [2014-01-11 22:48:56] <ChunkySean> but cud be upset
  548. [2014-01-11 22:48:58] <Dylan> notably they did not have their science player at New Trier
  549. [2014-01-11 22:48:59] <christino> this seems like a team somewhere around T-21 at hsnct
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  551. [2014-01-11 22:49:23] <Dylan> they only have one senior
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  553. [2014-01-11 22:49:44] <HurrahPraga> so still building for the future?
  554. [2014-01-11 22:49:46] <ChunkySean> ok
  555. [2014-01-11 22:50:00] <Dylan> their leading scorer at New Trier is a sophomore and improving fast\
  556. [2014-01-11 22:50:11] <christino> yeah jonathan huh seems good
  557. [2014-01-11 22:50:21] <LaziestUsernameEver> But is he playing on A or B team in the end?
  558. [2014-01-11 22:50:50] <Dylan> they have like 4 a-team level players pretty much
  559. [2014-01-11 22:51:13] <Dylan> james, prerark, and mahir are on A for sure, and idk about the fourth
  560. [2014-01-11 22:51:36] <christino> presumably jonathan if they want to do best at nats
  561. [2014-01-11 22:51:56] <Dylan> i think jonathan will be on A
  562. [2014-01-11 22:52:04] <christino> i don't see them pulling off any upsets
  563. [2014-01-11 22:52:16] <christino> dylan do you agree
  564. [2014-01-11 22:52:38] <Dylan> yeah they need to get it together and stop losing to teams they should be beating
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  567. [2014-01-11 22:52:56] <ChunkySean> anything else?
  568. [2014-01-11 22:53:16] <Dylan> I think I've said everything I can think of
  569. [2014-01-11 22:53:24] <christino> not really
  570. [2014-01-11 22:53:35] <christino> is someone logging this chat for later review
  571. [2014-01-11 22:53:59] <LaziestUsernameEver> I'm taking some notes.
  572. [2014-01-11 22:53:59] <HurrahPraga> we could ctrl+a,c,v but that seems inefficient
  573. [2014-01-11 22:53:59] <ChunkySean> next team?
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  575. [2014-01-11 22:54:05] <LaziestUsernameEver> Not really saving chat logs.
  576. [2014-01-11 22:54:27] <HurrahPraga> so adlai stevenson
  577. [2014-01-11 22:54:28] <christino> i have a log, except my internet went out for a little bit when guilford was being discussed
  578. [2014-01-11 22:54:42] <LaziestUsernameEver> Cool, that's great.
  579. [2014-01-11 22:54:51] <LaziestUsernameEver> So yeah, Stevenson now.
  580. [2014-01-11 22:54:51] <Dylan> Stevenson is potentially underranked
  581. [2014-01-11 22:55:08] <Dylan> they play shorthanded a lot and at full strength they're almost as good as Auburn/IMSA
  582. [2014-01-11 22:55:31] <ChunkySean> look pretty good on stats
  583. [2014-01-11 22:55:47] <ChunkySean> besides that i have nothign much to say
  584. [2014-01-11 22:56:00] <christino> so they seem able to pull off some unexpected nats wins like they did last year
  585. [2014-01-11 22:56:04] <ChunkySean> could maybe be a t-8 team
  586. [2014-01-11 22:56:05] <ChunkySean> at hsnct
  587. [2014-01-11 22:56:09] <HurrahPraga> they beat imsa at early bird
  588. [2014-01-11 22:56:11] <LaziestUsernameEver> Yeah, I see the same two people playing each time.
  589. [2014-01-11 22:56:20] <Dylan> yeah I can see them sneaking to T-8 ish maybe
  590. [2014-01-11 22:56:21] <LaziestUsernameEver> But with the third and fourth always changing.
  591. [2014-01-11 22:56:21] <HurrahPraga> oh by one tossup
  592. [2014-01-11 22:56:27] <LaziestUsernameEver> Or just not being there.
  593. [2014-01-11 22:56:31] <Dylan> Jason and Jeeho are the two main scorers
  594. [2014-01-11 22:56:47] <Dylan> Justin and Jonathan are their other a-teamers and have good niche knwledge
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  596. [2014-01-11 22:58:09] <LaziestUsernameEver> Anything else or should we move on?
  597. [2014-01-11 22:58:43] <ltholden> omg hooch
  598. [2014-01-11 22:59:10] <christino> doesn't seem like it
  599. [2014-01-11 22:59:24] <LaziestUsernameEver> So yeah, like Lee said, Chattahoochee is next.
  600. [2014-01-11 22:59:31] <christino> has nirav improved his negging
  601. [2014-01-11 22:59:38] <LaziestUsernameEver> He actually has.
  602. [2014-01-11 22:59:39] <ltholden> Well, they're for sure better than 17th
  603. [2014-01-11 22:59:40] <christino> (not by making better negs)
  604. [2014-01-11 22:59:51] <LaziestUsernameEver> Doesn't neg as much any more.
  605. [2014-01-11 23:00:02] <ltholden> I'd put them up with Albemarle
  606. [2014-01-11 23:00:05] <Dylan> chattahoochee is probably better than 17 especially if they have curbed their negging
  607. [2014-01-11 23:00:06] <ChunkySean> how did they improve so much?
  608. [2014-01-11 23:00:09] <LaziestUsernameEver> Nirav and James do history while Julia does lit.
  609. [2014-01-11 23:00:22] <LaziestUsernameEver> I'm probably biased, but I'd say they are underranked.
  610. [2014-01-11 23:00:23] <ChunkySean> wasnt there B team bad last year?
  611. [2014-01-11 23:00:30] <ltholden> Yeah, they just don't neg against Dorman
  612. [2014-01-11 23:00:32] <ChunkySean> they seem to have improved a lot
  613. [2014-01-11 23:00:33] <LaziestUsernameEver> They weren't really bad.
  614. [2014-01-11 23:00:41] <LaziestUsernameEver> Well, I guess they were.
  615. [2014-01-11 23:00:50] <ltholden> They're only missing a good science player
  616. [2014-01-11 23:01:00] <ChunkySean> Oh Okay
  617. [2014-01-11 23:01:08] <christino> good to know for when we play them
  618. [2014-01-11 23:01:10] <ltholden> And they're getting better at it
  619. [2014-01-11 23:01:13] <LaziestUsernameEver> Julia kind of had to pull a lot of weight last year on B team at HSNCT.
  620. [2014-01-11 23:01:20] <LaziestUsernameEver> She could have been on A team if she wanted to.
  621. [2014-01-11 23:01:34] <LaziestUsernameEver> She probably should have, because I choked hard.
  622. [2014-01-11 23:01:43] <ltholden> What team are you christino?
  623. [2014-01-11 23:01:47] <christino> ladue
  624. [2014-01-11 23:01:50] <Dylan> christino is ben zhang
  625. [2014-01-11 23:01:56] <LaziestUsernameEver> They actually have a somewhat decent science player now.
  626. [2014-01-11 23:01:59] <ltholden> oh hey ben
  627. [2014-01-11 23:02:02] <christino> sup
  628. [2014-01-11 23:02:07] <christino> i assume you're lee from dorman
  629. [2014-01-11 23:02:09] <LaziestUsernameEver> Well, they have two, but the person who will end up on A team is probably Amith.
  630. [2014-01-11 23:02:12] <ltholden> yeah
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  632. [2014-01-11 23:02:18] <ltholden> das me
  633. [2014-01-11 23:02:32] <ltholden> alex beat up chase at uk
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  635. [2014-01-11 23:02:47] <ltholden> but chase has this weird thing about playing amazingly sometimes and playing like poo elsewhere
  636. [2014-01-11 23:02:58] <ltholden> it's really an attitude thing i think
  637. [2014-01-11 23:03:15] <ltholden> Like Dorman CANNOT beat Hooch
  638. [2014-01-11 23:03:17] <ltholden> full team
  639. [2014-01-11 23:03:29] <ltholden> It's like their goal is to beat us
  640. [2014-01-11 23:03:31] <LaziestUsernameEver> I can't really explain why. That just started being a thing last year.
  641. [2014-01-11 23:03:38] <LaziestUsernameEver> It's the goal of EVERY Georgia team to beat Dorman.
  642. [2014-01-11 23:03:43] <LaziestUsernameEver> It's a thing in this state.
  643. [2014-01-11 23:03:44] <christino> so 'hooch is potentially a top 10 team?
  644. [2014-01-11 23:03:51] <ltholden> We only beat them once this year, and that was without Julia, and with a freaking tiebreaker
  645. [2014-01-11 23:03:53] <Dylan> i think they're underrated
  646. [2014-01-11 23:03:55] <LaziestUsernameEver> I'm unsure about top 10.
  647. [2014-01-11 23:04:02] <LaziestUsernameEver> But I'd definitely say top 15.
  648. [2014-01-11 23:04:06] <Dylan> could surprise at nats
  649. [2014-01-11 23:04:07] <ChunkySean> top 15
  650. [2014-01-11 23:04:10] <ltholden> I say they can beat any team up to albemarle honestly.
  651. [2014-01-11 23:04:11] <LaziestUsernameEver> They might even crack top 10 eventually.
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  653. [2014-01-11 23:04:19] <ltholden> if they play like they play against dorman
  654. [2014-01-11 23:04:19] <LaziestUsernameEver> But not yet.
  655. [2014-01-11 23:04:27] <christino> yeah
  656. [2014-01-11 23:04:30] <ltholden> Except bellarmine
  657. [2014-01-11 23:04:35] <ltholden> full bellarmine
  658. [2014-01-11 23:04:38] <LaziestUsernameEver> The next big tournament they play at is WUHSAC.
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  660. [2014-01-11 23:04:55] <christino> yeah
  661. [2014-01-11 23:05:08] <christino> they'll be playing northmont and ladue there, so we'll see
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  664. [2014-01-11 23:05:25] <ltholden> That'll be a good test against top teams
  665. [2014-01-11 23:05:29] <ltholden> But don't judge us!
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  667. [2014-01-11 23:05:35] <ltholden> Dorman sneaky
  668. [2014-01-11 23:05:36] <LaziestUsernameEver> Anyway, that's all I have to say about Hooch.
  669. [2014-01-11 23:05:42] <Dylan> next?
  670. [2014-01-11 23:05:47] <HurrahPraga> dcc
  671. [2014-01-11 23:05:47] <samus149> DCC
  672. [2014-01-11 23:05:49] <LaziestUsernameEver> DCC is next.
  673. [2014-01-11 23:05:49] <ltholden> DCC
  674. [2014-01-11 23:05:50] <ChunkySean> Ok
  675. [2014-01-11 23:05:53] <ChunkySean> I have some comments
  676. [2014-01-11 23:05:55] <ltholden> Where's collin?
  677. [2014-01-11 23:05:55] <Dylan> good bonus stats
  678. [2014-01-11 23:06:03] <samus149> We played them at Princeton
  679. [2014-01-11 23:06:04] <ChunkySean> I think a bit overrated
  680. [2014-01-11 23:06:04] <HurrahPraga> they seem intent on playing the entire top 25 this year
  681. [2014-01-11 23:06:09] <HurrahPraga> so plenty of experience
  682. [2014-01-11 23:06:16] <Dylan> can't seem to get over the hump of some of the top teams
  683. [2014-01-11 23:06:20] <HurrahPraga> though they t everyone
  684. [2014-01-11 23:06:22] <samus149> They were kinda underwhelming to be honest
  685. [2014-01-11 23:06:23] <ltholden> When we played them they beat us on FA. That's all I remember about that game
  686. [2014-01-11 23:06:25] <HurrahPraga> to graduation
  687. [2014-01-11 23:06:25] <christino> who's this "jeff" from PHSAT
  688. [2014-01-11 23:06:37] <HurrahPraga> we did lose to them, though
  689. [2014-01-11 23:06:39] <samus149> jack i think
  690. [2014-01-11 23:06:40] <ChunkySean> yea, our A team (who is decent but not great) missing a player beat them at HFT
  691. [2014-01-11 23:06:41] <LaziestUsernameEver> Collin has more faith in this team next year than this year.
  692. [2014-01-11 23:06:43] <christino> ah
  693. [2014-01-11 23:06:48] <samus149> whoever their top scorer was
  694. [2014-01-11 23:06:54] <samus149> is their usual top scorer
  695. [2014-01-11 23:06:59] <ltholden> They're good, they're just not that good. They're definitelt going to improve
  696. [2014-01-11 23:07:04] <christino> yeah, they seem to be on the cusp of being a title contenter
  697. [2014-01-11 23:07:09] <christino> *contender
  698. [2014-01-11 23:07:11] <ltholden> and definitely going to be in the upper echelon next year
  699. [2014-01-11 23:07:14] <Dylan> they lost to a shorthanded stevenson (who is ranked below them) at NT
  700. [2014-01-11 23:07:15] <HurrahPraga> next year they're going to be scary
  701. [2014-01-11 23:07:15] <ChunkySean> Ehhh
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  703. [2014-01-11 23:07:26] <ChunkySean> I don't find them to be too good
  704. [2014-01-11 23:07:29] <HurrahPraga> and potentially a threat to most teams this year
  705. [2014-01-11 23:07:33] <ChunkySean> I think they are around 20th
  706. [2014-01-11 23:07:34] <christino> well they're definitely solid
  707. [2014-01-11 23:07:34] <ChunkySean> ish
  708. [2014-01-11 23:07:37] <HurrahPraga> not potentiall a threat
  709. [2014-01-11 23:07:41] <HurrahPraga> potentially an upset
  710. [2014-01-11 23:07:41] <Dylan> a team this good returning everyone is definitely a threat for next year
  711. [2014-01-11 23:07:46] <ChunkySean> Yes
  712. [2014-01-11 23:07:48] <samus149> They travel entirely too much
  713. [2014-01-11 23:07:51] <ChunkySean> next year they will be nice
  714. [2014-01-11 23:07:55] <HurrahPraga> they get experience for that
  715. [2014-01-11 23:07:56] <christino> would you say they are like high tech last year
  716. [2014-01-11 23:08:07] <HurrahPraga> sort of
  717. [2014-01-11 23:08:07] <samus149> How so?
  718. [2014-01-11 23:08:07] <ltholden> I mean in all honesty, knowing they'd lost a huge chunk of the A and B team from last year, they were better than I expected
  719. [2014-01-11 23:08:08] <Dylan> and DCC is a dynasty school so they have the resources to improve
  720. [2014-01-11 23:08:12] <HurrahPraga> high tech last year was year
  721. [2014-01-11 23:08:14] <HurrahPraga> *weird
  722. [2014-01-11 23:08:21] <samus149> Like streaky?
  723. [2014-01-11 23:08:34] <christino> i see them doing similarly well at nats
  724. [2014-01-11 23:08:39] <HurrahPraga> that seems fair
  725. [2014-01-11 23:08:43] <HurrahPraga> better than us at HSNCT
  726. [2014-01-11 23:08:45] <ltholden> True, High Tech B was sososo close to beating Dorman B at hsnct
  727. [2014-01-11 23:08:47] <christino> yeah that definitely
  728. [2014-01-11 23:08:48] <HurrahPraga> and about the same at PACE
  729. [2014-01-11 23:08:49] <ltholden> oy I was scared
  730. [2014-01-11 23:08:58] <samus149> THAT GAME
  731. [2014-01-11 23:09:05] <samus149> you guys had to 30 that bonus to win
  732. [2014-01-11 23:09:05] <ltholden> we didnt play A until pace
  733. [2014-01-11 23:09:14] <ltholden> and I negged that stupid war of three henrys tossup
  734. [2014-01-11 23:09:17] <ltholden> grr
  735. [2014-01-11 23:09:19] <badger> that was frustrating to watch
  736. [2014-01-11 23:09:26] <HurrahPraga> we played that game after we lost to Montgomery on the third tiebreaker
  737. [2014-01-11 23:09:27] <samus149> hey rohan negged internet tax
  738. [2014-01-11 23:09:31] <HurrahPraga> we were wrecked
  739. [2014-01-11 23:09:43] <Dylan> hey now
  740. [2014-01-11 23:09:49] <Dylan> at least you guys made the top bracket
  741. [2014-01-11 23:09:53] <ChunkySean> internet tax?
  742. [2014-01-11 23:09:59] <HurrahPraga> oh yeah, im not complaining
  743. [2014-01-11 23:10:01] <ltholden> I LOvE you Dirty D
  744. [2014-01-11 23:10:09] <HurrahPraga> we answered like what, three tossups against dcc
  745. [2014-01-11 23:10:21] <ltholden> We were the bane and delight of your day all wrapped in one team of goobs
  746. [2014-01-11 23:10:24] <Dylan> naw that was meant to be self-pity humor
  747. [2014-01-11 23:10:46] <ChunkySean> anythign else about DCC?
  748. [2014-01-11 23:10:54] <christino> not really
  749. [2014-01-11 23:10:56] <samus149> DCC won our game at Princeton due to a lot of negs on my part and 4 buzzer races in their favor
  750. [2014-01-11 23:11:03] <ChunkySean> yea
  751. [2014-01-11 23:11:04] <samus149> According to my sheet
  752. [2014-01-11 23:11:07] <ltholden> Basically upset specialist maybe, and expect top performance next year
  753. [2014-01-11 23:11:10] <christino> seem to have good specialists or something, but not to the level where they'll be dominating
  754. [2014-01-11 23:11:17] <HurrahPraga> that seems fair
  755. [2014-01-11 23:11:18] <ChunkySean> our medicore A team lost to them cuz of 5 negs as well
  756. [2014-01-11 23:11:22] <Dylan> definitely a team on the edge of success
  757. [2014-01-11 23:11:23] <ChunkySean> only by 50
  758. [2014-01-11 23:11:30] <LaziestUsernameEver> Next is Manual.
  759. [2014-01-11 23:11:34] <ltholden> Some teams draw negs honestly
  760. [2014-01-11 23:11:42] <christino> my kentucky expert's supposedly coming in 10 or so minutes
  761. [2014-01-11 23:11:52] <ltholden> Like the B team would beat Northmont last year consistently as long as we didn't neg
  762. [2014-01-11 23:11:54] <HurrahPraga> alright, hopefully he can answer this one
  763. [2014-01-11 23:11:56] <ltholden> But Blizzard man
  764. [2014-01-11 23:12:01] <ltholden> He makes you want to neg
  765. [2014-01-11 23:12:03] <HurrahPraga> blizzard's OP
  766. [2014-01-11 23:12:23] <samus149> We played him at PACE
  767. [2014-01-11 23:12:24] <ltholden> I'm like 'Chase you're better at science than him stop negging;
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  769. [2014-01-11 23:12:30] <samus149> and we got beated pretty soundly
  770. [2014-01-11 23:12:39] <samus149> but he wasn't the god we thought him to be
  771. [2014-01-11 23:12:40] <LaziestUsernameEver> So should we skip Manual for the time being and move on to Maggie Walker?
  772. [2014-01-11 23:12:43] <lasakid> Yeah, he did the same thing to us at HSNCT :\
  773. [2014-01-11 23:12:49] <lasakid> races for years
  774. [2014-01-11 23:13:06] <HurrahPraga> yeah, lets leave it to the kentucky guy
  775. [2014-01-11 23:13:12] <HurrahPraga> mohan, have you played them this year?
  776. [2014-01-11 23:13:15] <ChunkySean> maggie walker seems really overrated
  777. [2014-01-11 23:13:17] <HurrahPraga> is sameen still around
  778. [2014-01-11 23:13:20] <ltholden> I've never had a game against the Blizzard where i wasn't underwhelmed in all honesty
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  780. [2014-01-11 23:13:25] <ltholden> But he's very very good
  781. [2014-01-11 23:13:29] <ltholden> I'll give him that.
  782. [2014-01-11 23:13:31] <ChunkySean> their power rate is not top 25 worthy....
  783. [2014-01-11 23:13:42] <ltholden> You cannot make mistakes with Blizzard
  784. [2014-01-11 23:13:47] <christino> connor wood seems solid
  785. [2014-01-11 23:13:48] <Dylan> Connor Wood is excellent
  786. [2014-01-11 23:13:56] <Dylan> I think he gets an NAQT boost
  787. [2014-01-11 23:13:56] <ChunkySean> Yea In his categories
  788. [2014-01-11 23:13:59] <ChunkySean> he is really good
  789. [2014-01-11 23:14:02] <ltholden> Maggie Walker is good, enough to be second in virginia
  790. [2014-01-11 23:14:04] <LaziestUsernameEver> But his teammates?
  791. [2014-01-11 23:14:08] <christino> by "good" as in defnding it against top teams?
  792. [2014-01-11 23:14:10] <ChunkySean> He is bad at science
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  794. [2014-01-11 23:14:16] <ltholden> But they can't take on a great team
  795. [2014-01-11 23:14:18] <ChunkySean> i mean
  796. [2014-01-11 23:14:20] <HurrahPraga> naqt boost still helps at HSNCT
  797. [2014-01-11 23:14:24] <ChunkySean> their power rate is not that good
  798. [2014-01-11 23:14:26] <ChunkySean> even on NAQT
  799. [2014-01-11 23:14:31] <ChunkySean> PPB is good tho
  800. [2014-01-11 23:14:34] <ChunkySean> ill give them that
  801. [2014-01-11 23:14:36] <Dylan> this is not a one-man team
  802. [2014-01-11 23:14:43] <ChunkySean> some support
  803. [2014-01-11 23:14:54] <samus149> You've gotta look at regional strength when looking at power rates
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  805. [2014-01-11 23:15:01] <christino> it seems like they'll lose tossups to Top Teams
  806. [2014-01-11 23:15:06] <LaziestUsernameEver> Power rates aren't really everything.
  807. [2014-01-11 23:15:08] <ltholden> I definitely think they could beat some top 25 teams no problem, but yes they definitely have a science deficiency
  808. [2014-01-11 23:15:12] <christino> i think they're ranked pretty much where they should be
  809. [2014-01-11 23:15:15] <ltholden> And they're not covering it up very well
  810. [2014-01-11 23:15:25] <christino> if eric slept like every other high schooler he could provide some input
  811. [2014-01-11 23:15:28] <samus149> oh god, does that mean this year's GSAC science isn't gonna be good?
  812. [2014-01-11 23:15:32] <ltholden> I would drop them a little, but that's all
  813. [2014-01-11 23:15:40] <Dylan> I would say they're appropriately ranked
  814. [2014-01-11 23:15:56] <LaziestUsernameEver> I think Maggie Walker is around where they should be.
  815. [2014-01-11 23:15:57] <christino> the 2012 GSAC was apparently saved at the last minute by tommy casalaspi (this is anecdotal)
  816. [2014-01-11 23:16:02] <ltholden> I only know things about them because Dorman's played them twice in virginia.
  817. [2014-01-11 23:16:07] <Dylan> Connor is a junior? though
  818. [2014-01-11 23:16:13] <LaziestUsernameEver> Connor is a junior.
  819. [2014-01-11 23:16:31] <ltholden> They're another team where if they can fill their gaps, they'll be back to the top next year
  820. [2014-01-11 23:16:34] <ChunkySean> ehh
  821. [2014-01-11 23:16:37] <ChunkySean> i still disagree
  822. [2014-01-11 23:16:42] <ltholden> But they, like DCC are a perfect example of a rebuilding team
  823. [2014-01-11 23:16:58] <christino> oh yeah sup nathan
  824. [2014-01-11 23:16:59] <ChunkySean> if you look at VCU Fall stats, they powered less than 5 in a couple games
  825. [2014-01-11 23:17:04] <ChunkySean> against some subpar teams
  826. [2014-01-11 23:17:07] <HurrahPraga> man, its scary that rebuilding teams can still crack top 25
  827. [2014-01-11 23:17:14] <HurrahPraga> but then there's lasa b
  828. [2014-01-11 23:17:26] <ltholden> Honestly, they gave us a better game than western albemarle in both of our games
  829. [2014-01-11 23:17:27] <LaziestUsernameEver> LASA B isn't even "rebuilding".
  830. [2014-01-11 23:17:29] <LaziestUsernameEver> They're, like, built.
  831. [2014-01-11 23:17:31] <ltholden> and albemarle beats them regularly
  832. [2014-01-11 23:17:36] <LaziestUsernameEver> And building more.
  833. [2014-01-11 23:17:36] <Dylan> that could be sitting on things
  834. [2014-01-11 23:17:40] <HurrahPraga> but they're still juniors
  835. [2014-01-11 23:17:43] <HurrahPraga> so they're building
  836. [2014-01-11 23:17:45] <Dylan> power rate doesn't mean THAT much
  837. [2014-01-11 23:17:48] <LaziestUsernameEver> I guess.
  838. [2014-01-11 23:17:48] <HurrahPraga> not rebuilding though
  839. [2014-01-11 23:17:59] <HurrahPraga> oh wait you just said that, nvm
  840. [2014-01-11 23:18:13] <samus149> If High Tech B were based on power rate last year, we wouldn't have been ranked
  841. [2014-01-11 23:18:20] <samus149> It's not the most important stat ever
  842. [2014-01-11 23:18:21] <ChunkySean> Well
  843. [2014-01-11 23:18:24] <ChunkySean> look at HSNCT
  844. [2014-01-11 23:18:27] <ChunkySean> power rates
  845. [2014-01-11 23:18:27] <ChunkySean> true
  846. [2014-01-11 23:18:30] <christino> eh, if you have a lower power rate, i'm gonna think you won't necessarily be getting lots of tossups before top teams
  847. [2014-01-11 23:18:32] <ltholden> With Maggie Walker, it's really just up to whether the other guys like Vasa can start to fill the gaps
  848. [2014-01-11 23:18:47] <ChunkySean> But im saying that Maggie Walker power rate is MUCH lower than top teams
  849. [2014-01-11 23:18:48] <samus149> I played Vasa at history bee last year, and he owned the room
  850. [2014-01-11 23:18:49] <ltholden> Connor is really good at what he does, but I don't see him becoming a super broad generalist
  851. [2014-01-11 23:18:57] <ltholden> He likes his specialties
  852. [2014-01-11 23:18:57] <christino> of couse it's not necessarily true
  853. [2014-01-11 23:19:00] <ChunkySean> Yes
  854. [2014-01-11 23:19:12] <ltholden> Yeah but Vasa's not on Connor's level.
  855. [2014-01-11 23:19:22] <ltholden> And be and Tabitha shut out Connor
  856. [2014-01-11 23:19:42] <ltholden> *me
  857. [2014-01-11 23:19:53] <ltholden> So Maggie's good, they just need to prioritize gap filling
  858. [2014-01-11 23:20:05] <Dylan> next team
  859. [2014-01-11 23:20:12] <ltholden> They could potentially be a MUCH better team by the end of the year if they got a science player to go hard at it
  860. [2014-01-11 23:20:15] <LaziestUsernameEver> Next is Bellarmine.
  861. [2014-01-11 23:20:17] <HurrahPraga> bellarmine
  862. [2014-01-11 23:20:19] <samus149> Bellarmine
  863. [2014-01-11 23:20:21] <ltholden> Ok Bellarmine
  864. [2014-01-11 23:20:23] <HurrahPraga> do they seem underanked?
  865. [2014-01-11 23:20:24] <ChunkySean> so obviously under ranked
  866. [2014-01-11 23:20:27] <LaziestUsernameEver> Sameer has yet to play, of course.
  867. [2014-01-11 23:20:28] <Dylan> Sameer Rai is Sameer Rai
  868. [2014-01-11 23:20:34] <christino> well sameer has played jack shit
  869. [2014-01-11 23:20:34] <LaziestUsernameEver> Why does he not play again?
  870. [2014-01-11 23:20:34] <ChunkySean> not a single person on their A team has played yet
  871. [2014-01-11 23:20:35] <samus149> According to an unnamed Berkeley source, Sameer has improved dramatically
  872. [2014-01-11 23:20:38] <ChunkySean> at all this year
  873. [2014-01-11 23:20:41] <LaziestUsernameEver> Like, what the hell?
  874. [2014-01-11 23:20:43] <samus149> Though they said that last year too
  875. [2014-01-11 23:20:43] <christino> uh
  876. [2014-01-11 23:20:44] <HurrahPraga> he'll probably win history bowl by himself again
  877. [2014-01-11 23:20:45] <christino> that's not true
  878. [2014-01-11 23:20:46] <dendroicavirens> That's not right
  879. [2014-01-11 23:20:47] <ceilingcat> ok
  880. [2014-01-11 23:20:48] <ceilingcat> so
  881. [2014-01-11 23:20:52] <dendroicavirens> the rest of their A team has been playing
  882. [2014-01-11 23:20:54] <Dylan> probably the best single player in the game
  883. [2014-01-11 23:20:56] <ChunkySean> No
  884. [2014-01-11 23:20:57] <HurrahPraga> undisclosed Berkely source?
  885. [2014-01-11 23:20:59] <ChunkySean> Ved and Hiep havent
  886. [2014-01-11 23:21:03] <samus149> k it's Lukas
  887. [2014-01-11 23:21:09] <Dylan> i figured it was Ankit
  888. [2014-01-11 23:21:10] <ceilingcat> I visited Bellarmine on Thursday
  889. [2014-01-11 23:21:12] <HurrahPraga> i figured
  890. [2014-01-11 23:21:19] <ceilingcat> I played quiz bowl practice
  891. [2014-01-11 23:21:19] <samus149> Probably through Ankit
  892. [2014-01-11 23:21:20] <HurrahPraga> did you see him?
  893. [2014-01-11 23:21:22] <christino> well ceilingcat is ankit
  894. [2014-01-11 23:21:22] <LaziestUsernameEver> Who's celingcat
  895. [2014-01-11 23:21:24] <ceilingcat> he certainly hasn't gotten "worse"
  896. [2014-01-11 23:21:25] <Dylan> ankit
  897. [2014-01-11 23:21:27] <LaziestUsernameEver> Oh.
  898. [2014-01-11 23:21:34] <HurrahPraga> he was developing a bit of a neg problem last year, but he's probably fixed that
  899. [2014-01-11 23:21:37] <ltholden> Ankit's a hypeman though
  900. [2014-01-11 23:21:38] <InfiniteStryker0> hmm, pitch black is on
  901. [2014-01-11 23:21:39] <ceilingcat> I played him on CO and he was getting things early
  902. [2014-01-11 23:21:42] <christino> and denroicavirens is jeff hoppes
  903. [2014-01-11 23:21:49] <ltholden> Like I know Sameer's AMAZING
  904. [2014-01-11 23:21:53] <samus149> We played Bell twice at HSNCT
  905. [2014-01-11 23:22:00] <samus149> first time we got close-ish
  906. [2014-01-11 23:22:01] <dendroicavirens> Keep in mind, by the way
  907. [2014-01-11 23:22:09] <samus149> second time they crushed us
  908. [2014-01-11 23:22:13] <dendroicavirens> that Sameer is an incredible player, but this is *not* a one-man team
  909. [2014-01-11 23:22:16] <ltholden> But a single guy can't improve his hs nats performance by that much from where he is already
  910. [2014-01-11 23:22:21] <ChunkySean> Ved and Hiep are solid
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  912. [2014-01-11 23:22:26] <lasakid> His team has a top 20 bonus conversion
  913. [2014-01-11 23:22:27] <ceilingcat> their A team is their A team in recent tournaments
  914. [2014-01-11 23:22:28] <Dylan> his teammates are quite good
  915. [2014-01-11 23:22:34] <christino> sup
  916. [2014-01-11 23:22:38] <dendroicavirens> They are working on the LASA model: reach out to middle schools, then send 4-5 teams to every tournament within reach
  917. [2014-01-11 23:22:39] <ceilingcat> like Ved and Hiep are no longer on A team
  918. [2014-01-11 23:22:45] <samus149> But is that how people voted?
  919. [2014-01-11 23:22:46] <ChunkySean> Oh really?
  920. [2014-01-11 23:22:48] <ChunkySean> okay
  921. [2014-01-11 23:22:48] <ltholden> Yeah I agree. But when Sameer plays, he owns the team
  922. [2014-01-11 23:22:49] <ceilingcat> yep
  923. [2014-01-11 23:22:50] <Dylan> and he had the unfortunate luck at HSNCT of being in the same bracket section as Loyola
  924. [2014-01-11 23:22:51] <nathanweiser> "the LASA model"
  925. [2014-01-11 23:22:52] <ChunkySean> I talked to Ved recently
  926. [2014-01-11 23:22:53] <ltholden> It lives and dies by his play
  927. [2014-01-11 23:22:54] <lasakid> haha
  928. [2014-01-11 23:22:58] <ChunkySean> didnt as him about that
  929. [2014-01-11 23:22:59] <ltholden> Or it has at least
  930. [2014-01-11 23:23:02] <ceilingcat> Alejandro and Jonchee have improved dramatically
  931. [2014-01-11 23:23:03] <ChunkySean> So Bryant is on A team?
  932. [2014-01-11 23:23:08] <ChunkySean> right I saw
  933. [2014-01-11 23:23:09] <ceilingcat> no it isn't
  934. [2014-01-11 23:23:10] <ceilingcat> I mean
  935. [2014-01-11 23:23:12] <christino> lasa kids are laughing at you, jeff
  936. [2014-01-11 23:23:24] <nathanweiser> haha I mean no offense
  937. [2014-01-11 23:23:25] <ChunkySean> it seemed Ved and Hiep complement Sameer well
  938. [2014-01-11 23:23:31] <christino> 'twas in jest
  939. [2014-01-11 23:23:34] <ceilingcat> no not really at all
  940. [2014-01-11 23:23:57] <ChunkySean> CE and Geo? Sameer told me those were his weaker points last year
  941. [2014-01-11 23:24:01] <ChunkySean> maybe that has changed
  942. [2014-01-11 23:24:03] <ceilingcat> they aren't
  943. [2014-01-11 23:24:08] <ceilingcat> science has always been his weak point
  944. [2014-01-11 23:24:18] <samus149> He beat me to 3 science tossups
  945. [2014-01-11 23:24:22] <ceilingcat> and this year he has legit science players
  946. [2014-01-11 23:24:24] <ceilingcat> backing him up
  947. [2014-01-11 23:24:28] <ceilingcat> it's still his weak point
  948. [2014-01-11 23:24:28] <ChunkySean> Oh wow
  949. [2014-01-11 23:24:34] <ChunkySean> Well Okay then
  950. [2014-01-11 23:24:37] <ceilingcat> he's way better at just about everything else
  951. [2014-01-11 23:24:44] <LaziestUsernameEver> What tournament is Sameer going to be at this year?
  952. [2014-01-11 23:24:46] <LaziestUsernameEver> Besides nats?
  953. [2014-01-11 23:24:47] <samus149> He did get to play us a second time by negging 7 times in the game before
  954. [2014-01-11 23:24:51] <ChunkySean> UCSD
  955. [2014-01-11 23:24:52] <ceilingcat> SUBMIT
  956. [2014-01-11 23:24:53] <ltholden> probably houston
  957. [2014-01-11 23:24:54] <ChunkySean> they are going to
  958. [2014-01-11 23:24:56] <ChunkySean> nope
  959. [2014-01-11 23:24:58] <ChunkySean> No TI
  960. [2014-01-11 23:25:00] <HurrahPraga> as long as he doesn't neg then
  961. [2014-01-11 23:25:00] <christino> what exactly was their weak point last year
  962. [2014-01-11 23:25:00] <ChunkySean> for Bellarmine
  963. [2014-01-11 23:25:01] <ceilingcat> nah, they're not going to Houston
  964. [2014-01-11 23:25:03] <lasakid> he's not going to TI
  965. [2014-01-11 23:25:11] <LaziestUsernameEver> Just SUBMIT?
  966. [2014-01-11 23:25:13] <ChunkySean> They are flying to UCSD
  967. [2014-01-11 23:25:16] <ChunkySean> Sameer is going
  968. [2014-01-11 23:25:24] <ChunkySean> they will see Arcadia i assume
  969. [2014-01-11 23:25:25] <ceilingcat> to my knowledge, they haven't submitted a Regs packet
  970. [2014-01-11 23:25:33] <samus149> Why doesn't he play high school?
  971. [2014-01-11 23:25:46] <ChunkySean> SAT prep last year
  972. [2014-01-11 23:25:47] <ceilingcat> he actually might play the latter two California Cup tournaments
  973. [2014-01-11 23:25:50] <ChunkySean> and he felt he didnt need to
  974. [2014-01-11 23:26:04] <HurrahPraga> he's probably legit too good for the competition
  975. [2014-01-11 23:26:15] <ChunkySean> essentially yea
  976. [2014-01-11 23:26:15] <christino> that's not a valid reason
  977. [2014-01-11 23:26:17] <christino> at all
  978. [2014-01-11 23:26:18] <ceilingcat> because I've egged him to actually come to tournaments every time I talked to him
  979. [2014-01-11 23:26:23] <ChunkySean> i think those are his sentiments
  980. [2014-01-11 23:26:26] <samus149> So are a bunch of other teams
  981. [2014-01-11 23:26:28] <ceilingcat> agree with Ben
  982. [2014-01-11 23:26:35] <ChunkySean> Yea
  983. [2014-01-11 23:26:42] <samus149> Yeah
  984. [2014-01-11 23:26:43] <ChunkySean> According to one of his teammates
  985. [2014-01-11 23:26:44] <ceilingcat> he'll also come to History Bowl
  986. [2014-01-11 23:26:46] <ChunkySean> they want him to play
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  988. [2014-01-11 23:26:48] <LaziestUsernameEver> I mean, when Adam was at Centennial he still went to stuff.
  989. [2014-01-11 23:26:50] <ChunkySean> but its his decision not to
  990. [2014-01-11 23:26:54] <LaziestUsernameEver> Even though he wiped the floor with everyone.
  991. [2014-01-11 23:27:01] <LaziestUsernameEver> It's silly, honestly.
  992. [2014-01-11 23:27:04] <HurrahPraga> he'll probably solo history bowl again
  993. [2014-01-11 23:27:12] <ceilingcat> he said he won't solo history bowl
  994. [2014-01-11 23:27:21] <Dylan> yeah I think he probably should be playing
  995. [2014-01-11 23:27:24] <ChunkySean> Alright
  996. [2014-01-11 23:27:25] <HurrahPraga> oh really? so he has a team now? that's great
  997. [2014-01-11 23:27:29] <samus149> He's going for the 4-peat
  998. [2014-01-11 23:27:30] <ceilingcat> he does
  999. [2014-01-11 23:27:34] <christino> speaking of history bowl, ladue will attend if we don't make it to science bowl nats
  1000. [2014-01-11 23:27:41] <ChunkySean> so I think back on track, what do u think their actual ranking is?
  1001. [2014-01-11 23:27:48] <christino> i ranked them 6th?
  1002. [2014-01-11 23:27:49] <ltholden> oh top 4 easy
  1003. [2014-01-11 23:27:50] <HurrahPraga> top 5 sounds reasonable?
  1004. [2014-01-11 23:27:54] <LaziestUsernameEver> I put them in top 4.
  1005. [2014-01-11 23:27:55] <Dylan> man at least top 5
  1006. [2014-01-11 23:28:02] <christino> yeah
  1007. [2014-01-11 23:28:03] <ChunkySean> Better than Dorman/HT?
  1008. [2014-01-11 23:28:03] <samus149> If, it's just rankings, top 5
  1009. [2014-01-11 23:28:03] <lasakid> top 4
  1010. [2014-01-11 23:28:04] <Dylan> would not be surprised if they steal a national
  1011. [2014-01-11 23:28:09] <samus149> if actual performance, maybe lower
  1012. [2014-01-11 23:28:10] <ceilingcat> I think they'll be top bracket at PACE
  1013. [2014-01-11 23:28:15] <HurrahPraga> they might be outright favored for nhbb
  1014. [2014-01-11 23:28:18] <christino> in terms of knowledge, top 4
  1015. [2014-01-11 23:28:26] <HurrahPraga> especially since sameer has teamates
  1016. [2014-01-11 23:28:27] <ltholden> Dorman's top 4 too
  1017. [2014-01-11 23:28:31] <ceilingcat> the Bellarmine backup team is very strong and are improving dramatically
  1018. [2014-01-11 23:28:39] <christino> in terms of how well they're gonna do at nats? i think 6/7
  1019. [2014-01-11 23:28:41] <ltholden> but yes maybe better than them
  1020. [2014-01-11 23:28:42] <ChunkySean> I mean Ved and Hiep on B team?
  1021. [2014-01-11 23:28:44] <christino> *bottom
  1022. [2014-01-11 23:28:47] <ChunkySean> will Bellarmine B go to Nats?
  1023. [2014-01-11 23:28:48] <dendroicavirens> also, the Bellarmine backup backup team
  1024. [2014-01-11 23:28:56] <ceilingcat> yeah Ved and Hiep are on B team
  1025. [2014-01-11 23:29:03] <ceilingcat> and the B team that's ranked like 60th
  1026. [2014-01-11 23:29:05] <dendroicavirens> I hope so, but I haven't heard one way or the other from Coach Fleitas
  1027. [2014-01-11 23:29:07] <ceilingcat> doesn't even include Ved and Hiep
  1028. [2014-01-11 23:29:11] <samus149> Sameer lose things he shouldn't cause of negs, and I don't think that will get any better if he doesn't play any actual tournaments
  1029. [2014-01-11 23:29:11] <dendroicavirens> I want them to send a C team, too
  1030. [2014-01-11 23:29:12] <ChunkySean> Yea
  1031. [2014-01-11 23:29:15] <ltholden> Yeah the problem is sameer has the potential to tear through the tournament or play poorly in a game
  1032. [2014-01-11 23:29:16] <ChunkySean> Ved says he was busy
  1033. [2014-01-11 23:29:16] <samus149> But his team should help
  1034. [2014-01-11 23:29:19] <ChunkySean> earlier this year
  1035. [2014-01-11 23:29:32] <ChunkySean> Jarek is good
  1036. [2014-01-11 23:29:35] <ChunkySean> and he's on C
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  1038. [2014-01-11 23:29:37] <ceilingcat> last year, his team was unable to clean up things he didn't know
  1039. [2014-01-11 23:29:40] <ltholden> he could very easily be anywhere from like top 10 to champion at nats
  1040. [2014-01-11 23:29:44] <ceilingcat> yes Jarek is a superb history player
  1041. [2014-01-11 23:29:56] <ceilingcat> he tore through history tossups at ACF Fall
  1042. [2014-01-11 23:30:13] <ChunkySean> will they be at NHBB?
  1043. [2014-01-11 23:30:17] <ceilingcat> yep
  1044. [2014-01-11 23:30:18] <ChunkySean> bellarmine C/B?
  1045. [2014-01-11 23:30:26] <ChunkySean> alright
  1046. [2014-01-11 23:30:29] <ceilingcat> oh their B team is coming to the local regional
  1047. [2014-01-11 23:30:31] <ChunkySean> that will be a great B team again
  1048. [2014-01-11 23:30:39] <ceilingcat> and remember that their A team w/o Sameer beat Arcadia twice
  1049. [2014-01-11 23:30:41] <nathanweiser> From seeing Sameer play over the summer at TQBA camp, I think he'll win history bee/bowl again, and probably make the top 4 at HSNCT
  1050. [2014-01-11 23:30:59] <christino> oh, the MO open that was mirrored?
  1051. [2014-01-11 23:31:28] <christino> i heard from benji that he did very well
  1052. [2014-01-11 23:31:29] <nathanweiser> ^and other things. like watching him beat Benji Ngyuen on CO packets
  1053. [2014-01-11 23:31:58] <MattBo> my CO was uh
  1054. [2014-01-11 23:31:59] <ChunkySean> alright
  1055. [2014-01-11 23:32:00] <MattBo> not PACE
  1056. [2014-01-11 23:32:15] <ChunkySean> do u guys want to continue?
  1057. [2014-01-11 23:32:16] <christino> of course your tournament's not an organization
  1058. [2014-01-11 23:32:40] <christino> hm
  1059. [2014-01-11 23:32:52] <HurrahPraga> yeah, seems like the general consensus is that bellarmines a top 4 team
  1060. [2014-01-11 23:32:56] <HurrahPraga> favored for NHBB
  1061. [2014-01-11 23:32:57] <christino> at nats, do you think there's a possibility of the same factors that caused a disappointing hsnct finish
  1062. [2014-01-11 23:32:57] <Dylan> ket's continue
  1063. [2014-01-11 23:32:59] <christino> to come up again
  1064. [2014-01-11 23:33:00] <HurrahPraga> and top 4 at HSNCT
  1065. [2014-01-11 23:33:08] <LaziestUsernameEver> Western Albemarle next.
  1066. [2014-01-11 23:33:15] <HurrahPraga> if he negs a lot
  1067. [2014-01-11 23:33:16] <ceilingcat> yes, they still don't have a trash player
  1068. [2014-01-11 23:33:16] <samus149> eric xu is eric xu
  1069. [2014-01-11 23:33:16] <ltholden> Eric's good
  1070. [2014-01-11 23:33:17] <HurrahPraga> then yeah
  1071. [2014-01-11 23:33:20] <ceilingcat> but they won't fall into the math trap
  1072. [2014-01-11 23:33:21] <christino> eric negs very little
  1073. [2014-01-11 23:33:25] <InfiniteStryker0> rob's pace will certainly be nothing like Matt's CO
  1074. [2014-01-11 23:33:41] <HurrahPraga> one man team's tend to underperform at nats
  1075. [2014-01-11 23:33:46] <ltholden> But like most one man teams if you apply the right pressure he's an easy takedown
  1076. [2014-01-11 23:33:47] <samus149> Does Eric have gaps in anything?
  1077. [2014-01-11 23:33:48] <christino> is rob following your philosophy from last year
  1078. [2014-01-11 23:33:50] <christino> science
  1079. [2014-01-11 23:33:58] <InfiniteStryker0> stephen's editing that
  1080. [2014-01-11 23:33:58] <HurrahPraga> CE/Geo
  1081. [2014-01-11 23:33:59] <Dylan> Eric's quite good but
  1082. [2014-01-11 23:34:02] <HurrahPraga> according to him
  1083. [2014-01-11 23:34:03] <ltholden> I think he's a fantastic individual player and he's super fast
  1084. [2014-01-11 23:34:04] <samus149> That seems to be a common answer today...
  1085. [2014-01-11 23:34:08] <christino> though he says he's having another teammate learn it
  1086. [2014-01-11 23:34:21] <christino> aka someone competent in science, maybe nor maybe not so in quizbowl
  1087. [2014-01-11 23:34:30] <ChunkySean> Yea
  1088. [2014-01-11 23:34:33] <ChunkySean> Science Weakness
  1089. [2014-01-11 23:34:35] <ltholden> But he can't compete super well against the top-level teams
  1090. [2014-01-11 23:34:36] <ChunkySean> definetly
  1091. [2014-01-11 23:34:41] <ChunkySean> crazy good on Music however
  1092. [2014-01-11 23:34:44] <HurrahPraga> didn't he get like 200 points against UVA
  1093. [2014-01-11 23:34:45] <Dylan> doesn't he pretty consistently lose to RM?
  1094. [2014-01-11 23:34:55] <ChunkySean> I have comments on RM...
  1095. [2014-01-11 23:34:57] <christino> no
  1096. [2014-01-11 23:35:00] <ChunkySean> read for them multiple times
  1097. [2014-01-11 23:35:00] <samus149> Yeah on MFT
  1098. [2014-01-11 23:35:03] <ChunkySean> at our tournament
  1099. [2014-01-11 23:35:06] <christino> he beat RM today on BISB twice
  1100. [2014-01-11 23:35:20] <LaziestUsernameEver> But didn't he get beat pretty badly on GSAC?
  1101. [2014-01-11 23:35:20] <christino> though i suspect RM A was shorthanded
  1102. [2014-01-11 23:35:22] <LaziestUsernameEver> By RM?
  1103. [2014-01-11 23:35:26] <ChunkySean> No
  1104. [2014-01-11 23:35:28] <ChunkySean> RM was full
  1105. [2014-01-11 23:35:29] <knightaa> actually, we weren't
  1106. [2014-01-11 23:35:31] <ChunkySean> complete team
  1107. [2014-01-11 23:35:33] <ChunkySean> at BISB
  1108. [2014-01-11 23:35:36] <christino> ah
  1109. [2014-01-11 23:35:49] <ChunkySean> When we move on to them
  1110. [2014-01-11 23:35:54] <ChunkySean> I will discuss them more
  1111. [2014-01-11 23:35:56] <christino> i have a feeling he's gonna do much better at NSC
  1112. [2014-01-11 23:36:07] <HurrahPraga> that seems fair
  1113. [2014-01-11 23:36:16] <christino> actually
  1114. [2014-01-11 23:36:28] <christino> since he's fast, hsnct may be a wildcard
  1115. [2014-01-11 23:36:39] <christino> alright
  1116. [2014-01-11 23:36:39] <Dylan> he could make a belvidere-north esque saturday run at hsnct
  1117. [2014-01-11 23:36:44] <christino> the kentucky guy is here
  1118. [2014-01-11 23:36:47] <ltholden> I personally think hsnct will be his best play
  1119. [2014-01-11 23:36:54] <christino> KierenWeisert: what do you have to say about dunbar and manual
  1120. [2014-01-11 23:36:56] <christino> especially manual
  1121. [2014-01-11 23:37:05] <LaziestUsernameEver> Ooh, OK. Manual now.
  1122. [2014-01-11 23:37:07] <LaziestUsernameEver> Going back a bit.
  1123. [2014-01-11 23:37:52] <KierenWeisert> Manual is probably over ranked tbh
  1124. [2014-01-11 23:38:17] <christino> for what reason?
  1125. [2014-01-11 23:38:23] <KierenWeisert> Powering mostly
  1126. [2014-01-11 23:38:28] <LaziestUsernameEver> They didn't make top bracket at UK.
  1127. [2014-01-11 23:38:29] <KierenWeisert> they will have a good bonus percentage
  1128. [2014-01-11 23:38:30] <ltholden> agreed
  1129. [2014-01-11 23:38:36] <KierenWeisert> but I doubt they can get tossup against high level teams
  1130. [2014-01-11 23:38:40] <KierenWeisert> tossups*
  1131. [2014-01-11 23:38:52] <christino> ah
  1132. [2014-01-11 23:38:54] <KierenWeisert> Depth seems to be the issue
  1133. [2014-01-11 23:39:19] <KierenWeisert> Dunbar should be ranked ahead in my opinion
  1134. [2014-01-11 23:39:38] <LaziestUsernameEver> Yeah, anything more specific on Dunbar?
  1135. [2014-01-11 23:40:05] <KierenWeisert> Dunbar is sort of like Dupont in that no one is really a world beater in terms of depth
  1136. [2014-01-11 23:40:11] <KierenWeisert> but I feel like they won't be as easily exposed
  1137. [2014-01-11 23:40:29] <KierenWeisert> one area of concern for both teams
  1138. [2014-01-11 23:40:30] <KierenWeisert> is history
  1139. [2014-01-11 23:40:56] <LaziestUsernameEver> Huh. What do you think about Dunbar's ranking?
  1140. [2014-01-11 23:40:59] <ChunkySean> Yep
  1141. [2014-01-11 23:41:04] <ChunkySean> Im not that good at history
  1142. [2014-01-11 23:41:08] <HurrahPraga> .
  1143. [2014-01-11 23:41:10] <ChunkySean> I believe i took 3/4 against Dunbar A
  1144. [2014-01-11 23:41:18] <HurrahPraga> oops, ignore that
  1145. [2014-01-11 23:41:23] <ChunkySean> so that seems to be a weak point
  1146. [2014-01-11 23:41:32] <ChunkySean> They were good on Paintings
  1147. [2014-01-11 23:41:37] <ChunkySean> Decent on Lit
  1148. [2014-01-11 23:41:41] <KierenWeisert> I would put Dunbar at 19
  1149. [2014-01-11 23:41:44] <ChunkySean> and Decent on Science
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  1151. [2014-01-11 23:42:11] <LaziestUsernameEver> OK, cool, thanks.
  1152. [2014-01-11 23:42:13] <KierenWeisert> and slide DuPont to 25. I feel that ppb masks their low power percentage comparatively
  1153. [2014-01-11 23:43:10] <christino> thanks for the commentary on kentucky
  1154. [2014-01-11 23:43:22] <LaziestUsernameEver> Yeah, that was some good stuff.
  1155. [2014-01-11 23:43:42] <KierenWeisert> also. why is gatton not ranked?
  1156. [2014-01-11 23:43:55] <HurrahPraga> it was a poll
  1157. [2014-01-11 23:43:56] <christino> people didn't include them in polls
  1158. [2014-01-11 23:43:58] <LaziestUsernameEver> I ranked Gatton, dunno what other people did.
  1159. [2014-01-11 23:44:12] <christino> i think their name recognition was insufficient
  1160. [2014-01-11 23:44:18] <LaziestUsernameEver> Anyway, back to Western Albemarle.
  1161. [2014-01-11 23:44:19] <ltholden> true
  1162. [2014-01-11 23:44:19] <christino> which is a big factor in the polls
  1163. [2014-01-11 23:44:21] <LaziestUsernameEver> Or RM.
  1164. [2014-01-11 23:44:27] <ChunkySean> ok
  1165. [2014-01-11 23:44:29] <ChunkySean> RM
  1166. [2014-01-11 23:44:30] <samus149> Yeah, RM
  1167. [2014-01-11 23:44:33] <christino> i think we have enough on WA
  1168. [2014-01-11 23:44:33] <ChunkySean> so i modded 5 games for them
  1169. [2014-01-11 23:44:34] <ltholden> I didn't rank them because i didn't research the last ten or so really
  1170. [2014-01-11 23:44:35] <LaziestUsernameEver> RM it is.
  1171. [2014-01-11 23:44:39] <ChunkySean> and watched another 2 finals matches
  1172. [2014-01-11 23:44:40] <knightaa> that's us
  1173. [2014-01-11 23:44:51] <ChunkySean> They seemed decent
  1174. [2014-01-11 23:44:54] <ChunkySean> a good team
  1175. [2014-01-11 23:45:02] <ChunkySean> but I think they are overranked at this point
  1176. [2014-01-11 23:45:06] <ChunkySean> Great PPB numbers
  1177. [2014-01-11 23:45:20] <ChunkySean> but their buzzes weren't particularly impressive
  1178. [2014-01-11 23:45:32] <Dylan> they've improved fast since last year. if they haven't hit the ceiling yet they could be even better come nats
  1179. [2014-01-11 23:45:40] <ChunkySean> agree with that
  1180. [2014-01-11 23:45:41] <christino> haha david madden
  1181. [2014-01-11 23:45:42] <christino> Don't under any circumstances switch players between teams during a tournament - this is not allowed in NHBB (or basically anywhere else). In NHBB, a player can jump in mid-tournament to a team, as long as they have not had 6 players total, but only if they have not yet played for any team. And no, you cannot switch players from a Varsity team to a JV team for the playoffs. Once you play for...
  1182. [2014-01-11 23:45:42] <christino> ...a team, you're stuck with them for that day at least.
  1183. [2014-01-11 23:45:44] <ChunkySean> Gabe is a great player
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  1185. [2014-01-11 23:45:49] <samus149> When did you mod for them?
  1186. [2014-01-11 23:45:54] <knightaa> i'm riddled with gaps
  1187. [2014-01-11 23:46:01] <ChunkySean> CSWIFT
  1188. [2014-01-11 23:46:05] <ChunkySean> well
  1189. [2014-01-11 23:46:08] <ChunkySean> History
  1190. [2014-01-11 23:46:13] <LaziestUsernameEver> Lol NHBB.
  1191. [2014-01-11 23:46:17] <HurrahPraga> haha
  1192. [2014-01-11 23:46:20] <ChunkySean> buzzes were not that good in history or science
  1193. [2014-01-11 23:46:22] <ChunkySean> for RM
  1194. [2014-01-11 23:46:27] <ChunkySean> Paintings and Lit was pretty good
  1195. [2014-01-11 23:46:37] <ChunkySean> they had an amazing CE player
  1196. [2014-01-11 23:46:42] <ChunkySean> so they get an NAQT boost
  1197. [2014-01-11 23:46:48] <ChunkySean> and bonus conversion was impressive
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  1199. [2014-01-11 23:47:13] <LaziestUsernameEver> Gabe's a junior, right?
  1200. [2014-01-11 23:47:17] <ChunkySean> yea
  1201. [2014-01-11 23:47:19] <knightaa> yes
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  1203. [2014-01-11 23:47:30] <LaziestUsernameEver> Oh, so I guess you're Gabe, knightaa?
  1204. [2014-01-11 23:47:38] <knightaa> yes
  1205. [2014-01-11 23:47:53] <ChunkySean> what do u think about my comments?
  1206. [2014-01-11 23:47:59] <knightaa> they seem true
  1207. [2014-01-11 23:48:01] <ChunkySean> anything you disagree with?
  1208. [2014-01-11 23:48:07] <ChunkySean> and obviously this is october
  1209. [2014-01-11 23:48:12] <ChunkySean> and seeing your summer improvement
  1210. [2014-01-11 23:48:17] <ChunkySean> You are probably much better
  1211. [2014-01-11 23:48:20] <ChunkySean> at this point
  1212. [2014-01-11 23:48:26] <knightaa> i mean...
  1213. [2014-01-11 23:48:34] <knightaa> just from today's stats you can see how inconsistent we are
  1214. [2014-01-11 23:49:16] <LaziestUsernameEver> Losing to your own B teams is always rough.
  1215. [2014-01-11 23:49:32] <ChunkySean> right now, id probably say around 20th ranking, but with the potential to go up to around 10th if they continue improving
  1216. [2014-01-11 23:49:36] <knightaa> more like
  1217. [2014-01-11 23:49:38] <ChunkySean> and if Gabe's teammates study
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  1219. [2014-01-11 23:49:57] <knightaa> losing to half of our B team and one person I asked the night before after someone got sick
  1220. [2014-01-11 23:50:02] <knightaa> but yeah
  1221. [2014-01-11 23:50:18] <christino> what did you think of BISB?
  1222. [2014-01-11 23:50:26] <knightaa> ehh
  1223. [2014-01-11 23:50:34] <christino> especially bonus-wise
  1224. [2014-01-11 23:50:36] <knightaa> it was interesting
  1225. [2014-01-11 23:50:38] <ChunkySean> some interesting questions
  1226. [2014-01-11 23:50:49] <LaziestUsernameEver> Adam seems proud of BISB, but I've heard varying opinions on it.
  1227. [2014-01-11 23:50:55] <samus149> "interesting"
  1228. [2014-01-11 23:50:59] <christino> because then we can make better sense of oak ridge's 25 ppb
  1229. [2014-01-11 23:51:01] <knightaa> many common links
  1230. [2014-01-11 23:51:05] <ChunkySean> I liked the answer lines
  1231. [2014-01-11 23:51:11] <ChunkySean> Bonuses were a bit stockish
  1232. [2014-01-11 23:51:18] <ChunkySean> I mean Charter never studied bonuses until recently
  1233. [2014-01-11 23:51:21] <ChunkySean> and now we realize
  1234. [2014-01-11 23:51:28] <ChunkySean> how predictable bisb was
  1235. [2014-01-11 23:51:53] <ceilingcat> I don't think emulating common bonus forms can be described as "stockish"
  1236. [2014-01-11 23:52:07] <LaziestUsernameEver> Adam does have his "ask about things high schoolers learn in HS" policy, which may make things a little easier.
  1237. [2014-01-11 23:52:09] <ChunkySean> If you study bonuses and packets, you can pretty much predict the 2nd and 3rd parts
  1238. [2014-01-11 23:52:17] <knightaa> mmm
  1239. [2014-01-11 23:52:20] <LaziestUsernameEver> But when he playtested them in Tech practices...
  1240. [2014-01-11 23:52:25] <LaziestUsernameEver> They didn't seem very "stockish".
  1241. [2014-01-11 23:52:33] <knightaa> there were some where he really went in on standard anwers
  1242. [2014-01-11 23:52:37] <ceilingcat> yeah they're not
  1243. [2014-01-11 23:52:38] <ChunkySean> Ok thats not the right words
  1244. [2014-01-11 23:52:42] <ChunkySean> well yea
  1245. [2014-01-11 23:52:43] <ChunkySean> some of them
  1246. [2014-01-11 23:52:47] <ChunkySean> were completely unique
  1247. [2014-01-11 23:52:48] <ceilingcat> it was just very canonical
  1248. [2014-01-11 23:52:52] <ChunkySean> Well
  1249. [2014-01-11 23:52:53] <ceilingcat> for the most part
  1250. [2014-01-11 23:52:59] <ChunkySean> the bonuses that had typical 1st parts
  1251. [2014-01-11 23:53:07] <ChunkySean> you would be able to predict the rest of the bonus
  1252. [2014-01-11 23:53:12] <knightaa> also history was tilted modern?
  1253. [2014-01-11 23:53:14] <ChunkySean> while other bonuses were more unqiue
  1254. [2014-01-11 23:53:17] <ceilingcat> that's not a bad thing
  1255. [2014-01-11 23:53:22] <ChunkySean> Not complaining
  1256. [2014-01-11 23:53:26] <ChunkySean> just an observation
  1257. [2014-01-11 23:53:27] <knightaa> perhaps
  1258. [2014-01-11 23:53:30] <christino> ok
  1259. [2014-01-11 23:53:31] <christino> moving on
  1260. [2014-01-11 23:53:35] <ChunkySean> i mean 3rd parts could have been more creative
  1261. [2014-01-11 23:53:36] <christino> more about RM?
  1262. [2014-01-11 23:53:37] <ChunkySean> for some
  1263. [2014-01-11 23:53:38] <LaziestUsernameEver> Next is Auburn.
  1264. [2014-01-11 23:53:40] <ceilingcat> btw BISB is where Arcadia got their super high PPB
  1265. [2014-01-11 23:53:41] <samus149> top 10 here we come
  1266. [2014-01-11 23:53:47] <HurrahPraga> good football team
  1267. [2014-01-11 23:53:54] <LaziestUsernameEver> Lol.
  1268. [2014-01-11 23:54:03] <lasakid> fantastic field goal
  1269. [2014-01-11 23:54:04] <HurrahPraga> that alabama game was amazing
  1270. [2014-01-11 23:54:09] <ChunkySean> lol
  1271. [2014-01-11 23:54:11] <Dylan> Evan is studying at an obscene rate
  1272. [2014-01-11 23:54:13] <ChunkySean> and the Georgia game
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  1274. [2014-01-11 23:54:15] <samus149> Quackadilly Blipp is on their team
  1275. [2014-01-11 23:54:19] <ChunkySean> how does he even study????
  1276. [2014-01-11 23:54:20] <Dylan> i don't know if it's sustainable
  1277. [2014-01-11 23:54:22] <ChunkySean> i have no idea
  1278. [2014-01-11 23:54:29] <ChunkySean> how you can improve that quickly?
  1279. [2014-01-11 23:54:36] <LaziestUsernameEver> I pretty much hate Alabama after their terrible DRAGOON mirror, so I was happy about them losing.
  1280. [2014-01-11 23:54:37] <ltholden> Ok Auburn. From what I saw from last year, they've still got some top notch players, and Evan's getting better and better
  1281. [2014-01-11 23:54:54] <LaziestUsernameEver> Yeah, Evan has improved massively.
  1282. [2014-01-11 23:55:00] <ltholden> Like they could potentially be consistently better than IMSA by the end of the year
  1283. [2014-01-11 23:55:12] <HurrahPraga> are they studying that fast? that's insane
  1284. [2014-01-11 23:55:12] <ltholden> They could definitely threaten the top notch teams
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  1286. [2014-01-11 23:55:19] <Dylan> they do this thing where they drop to inferior teams sometimes but that seems to have gone away
  1287. [2014-01-11 23:55:29] <ChunkySean> Pat take a look at the illinois thread
  1288. [2014-01-11 23:55:30] <ChunkySean> on HSQB
  1289. [2014-01-11 23:55:31] <ltholden> They did that last year too.
  1290. [2014-01-11 23:55:37] <HurrahPraga> right, going there
  1291. [2014-01-11 23:55:52] <ltholden> Again, only played at two tournaments directly against them though
  1292. [2014-01-11 23:55:57] <ltholden> and that was last year
  1293. [2014-01-11 23:56:04] <Dylan> they're definitely VERY different from last year
  1294. [2014-01-11 23:56:10] <ChunkySean> what are these shady techniques
  1295. [2014-01-11 23:56:15] <ChunkySean> that let u improve that fast
  1296. [2014-01-11 23:56:22] <ChunkySean> he is really efficient?
  1297. [2014-01-11 23:56:27] <Dylan> Evan makes obscene amounts of notecards
  1298. [2014-01-11 23:56:30] <ChunkySean> or just puts a ton on time in?
  1299. [2014-01-11 23:56:31] <ltholden> He's reading all the books
  1300. [2014-01-11 23:56:38] <ltholden> learning all the sciences
  1301. [2014-01-11 23:56:43] <HurrahPraga> 50 ppg in two months! 0.0
  1302. [2014-01-11 23:56:47] <ltholden> listening to all the lectures
  1303. [2014-01-11 23:56:52] <ltholden> taking all the notes
  1304. [2014-01-11 23:56:53] <christino> snatchin' those tossups
  1305. [2014-01-11 23:56:55] <ltholden> reviewing
  1306. [2014-01-11 23:56:57] <ltholden> reviewing
  1307. [2014-01-11 23:57:00] <ltholden> REVIEWING
  1308. [2014-01-11 23:57:02] <samus149> Please tell me he has a science gap
  1309. [2014-01-11 23:57:05] <christino> anyway on-top
  1310. [2014-01-11 23:57:07] <Dylan> he claims they're better at harder questions but I doubt that
  1311. [2014-01-11 23:57:07] <christino> topic
  1312. [2014-01-11 23:57:14] <Dylan> SCIENCE is their weakest subject by far
  1313. [2014-01-11 23:57:24] <samus149> dammit quizbowl
  1314. [2014-01-11 23:57:25] <ltholden> Yeah I don't see that, though that is a common thing amongst some teams
  1315. [2014-01-11 23:57:40] <Dylan> it was my thing too
  1316. [2014-01-11 23:57:42] <ltholden> They play consistently better the harder the set gets to a certain point
  1317. [2014-01-11 23:58:15] <Dylan> I could see Auburn getting somewhere around 10th at Nats but not much better
  1318. [2014-01-11 23:58:21] <christino> yeah, in between "losing buzzer races" and "not knowing stuff"
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  1320. [2014-01-11 23:59:24] <Dylan> uhhhh, next?
  1321. [2014-01-11 23:59:28] <christino> northmont
  1322. [2014-01-11 23:59:36] <LaziestUsernameEver> I honestly think Northmont is not a top 10 team.
  1323. [2014-01-11 23:59:39] <nathanweiser> sam blizzard is good at quiz bowl
  1324. [2014-01-11 23:59:41] <ltholden> Sammy B
  1325. [2014-01-11 23:59:42] <ChunkySean> same
  1326. [2014-01-11 23:59:42] <samus149> quite
  1327. [2014-01-11 23:59:49] <ChunkySean> Sam is good
  1328. [2014-01-11 23:59:53] <samus149> He keeps getting better
  1329. [2014-01-11 23:59:54] <nathanweiser> I disagree I think they'll be top 10 at both
  1330. [2014-01-11 23:59:55] <LaziestUsernameEver> Sam is good, no question.
  1331. [2014-01-11 23:59:56] <ChunkySean> but not as good as Eric Xu i think
  1332. [2014-01-11 23:59:58] <LaziestUsernameEver> But not that good.
  1333. [2014-01-11 23:59:59] <LaziestUsernameEver> Not yet.
  1334. [2014-01-12 00:00:01] <christino> i get the feeling that if you're not careful, he'll beat you
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  1336. [2014-01-12 00:00:08] <ChunkySean> yes
  1337. [2014-01-12 00:00:09] <christino> but he's not good enough to consistently beat top 10 teams?
  1338. [2014-01-12 00:00:10] <ltholden> I think he's good, and by the end of the year he'll be even better
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  1340. [2014-01-12 00:00:15] <ChunkySean> he baits u into negging
  1341. [2014-01-12 00:00:17] <ChunkySean> sometimes
  1342. [2014-01-12 00:00:19] <ltholden> But he's not as deep as Xu
  1343. [2014-01-12 00:00:21] <HurrahPraga> so it boils down to "how good do you think sam blizzard is?"
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  1345. [2014-01-12 00:00:23] <ltholden> but he's broader
  1346. [2014-01-12 00:00:26] <ltholden> That's his thing
  1347. [2014-01-12 00:00:35] <ltholden> He can put up mad points on lower level teams
  1348. [2014-01-12 00:00:40] <ChunkySean> yea
  1349. [2014-01-12 00:00:43] <Dylan> Sam is very good at clubbing baby seals
  1350. [2014-01-12 00:00:52] <ltholden> But as the difficulty gets higher and teams gets better he loses his thunder
  1351. [2014-01-12 00:00:56] <Dylan> like idk about him
  1352. [2014-01-12 00:00:58] <christino> e
  1353. [2014-01-12 00:01:02] <christino> not necessarily
  1354. [2014-01-12 00:01:05] <christino> he did well at NASAT
  1355. [2014-01-12 00:01:06] <ltholden> just look at the difference between midwest championship and wildcat last year
  1356. [2014-01-12 00:01:10] <samus149> He's beaten DCC and Dorman
  1357. [2014-01-12 00:01:11] <Dylan> he beat me at ACF Fall if that's notable for anybody
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  1359. [2014-01-12 00:01:27] <ltholden> Dorman was not on their game at all at uk
  1360. [2014-01-12 00:01:32] <nathanweiser> last year at ACF Regionals he beat a shorthanded LASA A
  1361. [2014-01-12 00:01:33] <ltholden> That's all I can really say about that
  1362. [2014-01-12 00:01:41] <christino> he's playing 'hooch at WUHSAC
  1363. [2014-01-12 00:01:43] <samus149> Not a lot of negs either
  1364. [2014-01-12 00:01:45] <nathanweiser> so I wouldn't say he's bad at upper level tournaments
  1365. [2014-01-12 00:01:52] <ltholden> He's not bad no
  1366. [2014-01-12 00:01:53] <lasakid> and took down last year's LASA B at HSNCT
  1367. [2014-01-12 00:01:54] <Dylan> that's his best attribute he doesn't neg
  1368. [2014-01-12 00:01:55] <HurrahPraga> he seems at least top 10
  1369. [2014-01-12 00:01:59] <LaziestUsernameEver> How are his teammates? Or is it just Sam all day?
  1370. [2014-01-12 00:02:04] <ltholden> But he's a bit streakyt
  1371. [2014-01-12 00:02:10] <Dylan> his teammates are nothing impressive from what i've seen
  1372. [2014-01-12 00:02:12] <samus149> Essentially Sam
  1373. [2014-01-12 00:02:18] <christino> is tori amos still there?
  1374. [2014-01-12 00:02:20] <ltholden> Tori put up some points last year, but this year its really just him alone now
  1375. [2014-01-12 00:02:27] <christino> i see
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  1378. [2014-01-12 00:02:35] <LaziestUsernameEver> Tori is still there, IIRC.
  1379. [2014-01-12 00:02:39] <LaziestUsernameEver> Not 100% sure, though.
  1380. [2014-01-12 00:02:54] <ltholden> I mean either way it's the blizzard show
  1381. [2014-01-12 00:03:01] <LaziestUsernameEver> Yeah, pretty much.
  1382. [2014-01-12 00:03:03] <Dylan> I don't know if sam has gotten much better from last year tbh
  1383. [2014-01-12 00:03:10] <ChunkySean> i think knowledge wise
  1384. [2014-01-12 00:03:12] <ChunkySean> he is not top 10
  1385. [2014-01-12 00:03:14] <ltholden> And I think he'll definitely be a top contender next year
  1386. [2014-01-12 00:03:17] <ChunkySean> but due to his experience
  1387. [2014-01-12 00:03:19] <ChunkySean> and breadth
  1388. [2014-01-12 00:03:24] <ltholden> But depth wise, I don't believe he can win
  1389. [2014-01-12 00:03:25] <christino> yeah i've gotten the feeling that he's hit a ceiling in terms of improvement
  1390. [2014-01-12 00:03:26] <ChunkySean> and buzzer speed
  1391. [2014-01-12 00:03:35] <ChunkySean> he can finish top 10
  1392. [2014-01-12 00:03:35] <ltholden> but upsets? you bet
  1393. [2014-01-12 00:03:38] <christino> or at least, plateaued
  1394. [2014-01-12 00:03:39] <christino> yeah
  1395. [2014-01-12 00:03:43] <ChunkySean> but based on knowledge i dont think he is top 10
  1396. [2014-01-12 00:03:57] <samus149> He might need teammates for super high placement, but he has upset potential
  1397. [2014-01-12 00:04:08] <christino> he did very disappointingly at NSC
  1398. [2014-01-12 00:04:12] <Dylan> yeah he also has potential to hit a bad packet and take a bad loss
  1399. [2014-01-12 00:04:30] <samus149> I remember he got something like 15 tossups against us and barely powered
  1400. [2014-01-12 00:04:45] <ltholden> I said this in a different thread, but I've always found it easy to neg against him too
  1401. [2014-01-12 00:04:48] <Dylan> didn't he get the same placement-ish at HSNCT and NSC?
  1402. [2014-01-12 00:04:48] <ChunkySean> yea he doesnt power as much as he should
  1403. [2014-01-12 00:05:01] <ltholden> Like you expect him to get in early because of all the ppg he puts up, that you neg
  1404. [2014-01-12 00:05:03] <LaziestUsernameEver> Yeah, his final placings were around the same.
  1405. [2014-01-12 00:05:09] <ltholden> This was my experience last year at least
  1406. [2014-01-12 00:05:19] <ChunkySean> I agree with holden
  1407. [2014-01-12 00:05:30] <samus149> he got t-19th at NSC
  1408. [2014-01-12 00:05:32] <Dylan> that's a good assessment of blizzard
  1409. [2014-01-12 00:05:47] <Dylan> oh hey i tied with him at NSC funny
  1410. [2014-01-12 00:05:58] <ltholden> DIRTY D
  1411. [2014-01-12 00:06:03] <ltholden> luv u
  1412. [2014-01-12 00:06:08] <christino> shouldn't have lost to lasa b
  1413. [2014-01-12 00:06:20] <christino> wait nvm
  1414. [2014-01-12 00:06:37] <LaziestUsernameEver> So next team?
  1415. [2014-01-12 00:06:48] <christino> arcadia
  1416. [2014-01-12 00:06:48] <samus149> arcadia
  1417. [2014-01-12 00:06:52] <christino> negging problem
  1418. [2014-01-12 00:06:57] <LaziestUsernameEver> Definitely.
  1419. [2014-01-12 00:06:58] <HurrahPraga> they put up some ridiculous power rates
  1420. [2014-01-12 00:07:00] <christino> ankit, mind providing us with some more insights
  1421. [2014-01-12 00:07:05] <Dylan> could dissappoint like they did last year
  1422. [2014-01-12 00:07:07] <samus149> that PPB at the start of the year
  1423. [2014-01-12 00:07:16] <christino> yeah they put up the highest PPB on IS-128
  1424. [2014-01-12 00:07:37] <christino> justin nghiem put up something like 31/8/1 or something
  1425. [2014-01-12 00:07:51] <samus149> hot damn
  1426. [2014-01-12 00:07:51] <ChunkySean> how do they split the subjects?
  1427. [2014-01-12 00:07:53] <vig180> Arcadia has a history of choking in big matches
  1428. [2014-01-12 00:08:01] <vig180> and underperforming at nationals
  1429. [2014-01-12 00:08:06] <vig180> possibly because they emphasize packet studying
  1430. [2014-01-12 00:08:24] <ChunkySean> they have that one generalist guy
  1431. [2014-01-12 00:08:29] <christino> boyang jiao
  1432. [2014-01-12 00:08:31] <christino> yeah
  1433. [2014-01-12 00:08:33] <vig180> last year there was some intra-team discord because
  1434. [2014-01-12 00:08:39] <christino> he and kevin seem to neg
  1435. [2014-01-12 00:08:41] <ltholden> explain to me the deficits of packet studying
  1436. [2014-01-12 00:08:41] <ChunkySean> and then a few specialists right?
  1437. [2014-01-12 00:08:49] <ltholden> I'm actually curious
  1438. [2014-01-12 00:08:52] <HurrahPraga> is the discord gone now?
  1439. [2014-01-12 00:08:53] <christino> 1. it's retroactive studying
  1440. [2014-01-12 00:08:56] <vig180> good question
  1441. [2014-01-12 00:09:07] <christino> you study what has come up in the past, in hopes it might come up in the future
  1442. [2014-01-12 00:09:13] <LaziestUsernameEver> Discord because ... ?
  1443. [2014-01-12 00:09:14] <HurrahPraga> so that's a question mark
  1444. [2014-01-12 00:09:15] <Dylan> there's a more finite limit to things you can learn packet studying
  1445. [2014-01-12 00:09:16] <christino> except that's not how writers (should) write their questions
  1446. [2014-01-12 00:09:23] <samus149> packet studying is good for packets written by bad writers
  1447. [2014-01-12 00:09:29] <samus149> cause they write from those packets
  1448. [2014-01-12 00:09:35] <samus149> and then there's an infinite loop
  1449. [2014-01-12 00:09:40] <HurrahPraga> doesn't NHBB repeat questions like crazy
  1450. [2014-01-12 00:09:47] <HurrahPraga> or at least answer lines
  1451. [2014-01-12 00:09:47] <ChunkySean> somewhat
  1452. [2014-01-12 00:09:52] <ltholden> So like the suggestion is, like, read books?
  1453. [2014-01-12 00:09:53] <vig180> they had 3 specialists who covered most of the subjects and then a generalist who would try to buzz in before them and often negged
  1454. [2014-01-12 00:09:55] <LaziestUsernameEver> HFT repeated questions like crazy.
  1455. [2014-01-12 00:10:02] <ChunkySean> the History guy at charter told me to use wiki + NHBB packets
  1456. [2014-01-12 00:10:07] <ltholden> I'm actually super curious since Dorman does like heavy database work
  1457. [2014-01-12 00:10:18] <christino> as someone once said on the forums
  1458. [2014-01-12 00:10:26] <christino> wikipedia is better than it should be for studying
  1459. [2014-01-12 00:10:36] <vig180> Dorman does best when they have players with real knowledge/passion for their subjects too
  1460. [2014-01-12 00:10:38] <christino> because it is more often a source for writers
  1461. [2014-01-12 00:10:43] <Dylan> I use packet studying as a core but for early clues primary sources are king
  1462. [2014-01-12 00:10:45] <samus149> Wikipedia is beautiful for studying
  1463. [2014-01-12 00:10:53] <samus149> Wikipedia is essentially real knowledge
  1464. [2014-01-12 00:10:57] <ChunkySean> right
  1465. [2014-01-12 00:11:01] <ChunkySean> and u can predict clues
  1466. [2014-01-12 00:11:02] <ChunkySean> from there
  1467. [2014-01-12 00:11:05] <HurrahPraga> somewhat
  1468. [2014-01-12 00:11:08] <Dylan> wiki is also a solid studying tool, unfortunately
  1469. [2014-01-12 00:11:09] <ChunkySean> its cool
  1470. [2014-01-12 00:11:11] <ChunkySean> when that happens
  1471. [2014-01-12 00:11:13] <ltholden> I mean I agree with you guys
  1472. [2014-01-12 00:11:16] <christino> alright
  1473. [2014-01-12 00:11:19] <christino> back on track
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  1475. [2014-01-12 00:11:38] <samus149> But yeah Arcadia, quite good
  1476. [2014-01-12 00:11:40] <christino> so does arcadia have upset potential, or are they more likely to commit suicide in those matches?
  1477. [2014-01-12 00:11:41] <ltholden> indeed
  1478. [2014-01-12 00:11:45] <LaziestUsernameEver> So is Arcadia on track to disappoint again?
  1479. [2014-01-12 00:11:58] <Dylan> i think they have a good chance of dissappointing
  1480. [2014-01-12 00:12:02] <vig180> they're going to lose a heartbreaker to someone they shouldn't in the playoffs
  1481. [2014-01-12 00:12:11] <christino> sounds like dorman
  1482. [2014-01-12 00:12:16] <samus149> They're gonna place below top 10 I think
  1483. [2014-01-12 00:12:23] <LaziestUsernameEver> But better than last year?
  1484. [2014-01-12 00:12:25] <christino> yeah
  1485. [2014-01-12 00:12:26] <ltholden> ahh dorman
  1486. [2014-01-12 00:12:27] <samus149> Definitely
  1487. [2014-01-12 00:12:40] <christino> dorman should repeat its performance in 2011
  1488. [2014-01-12 00:12:44] <ltholden> We've never been as good as we should but we're always pretty darn good
  1489. [2014-01-12 00:12:44] <vig180> I'd be intereted in seeing if they play more college-level events and try to seek out tougher competition in say, Texas at some point
  1490. [2014-01-12 00:12:44] <christino> if you know what i mean
  1491. [2014-01-12 00:12:53] <LaziestUsernameEver> HAHAHAHAHAHAHA.
  1492. [2014-01-12 00:12:59] <ChunkySean> they are playing Sameer
  1493. [2014-01-12 00:13:01] <ChunkySean> at UCSD
  1494. [2014-01-12 00:13:02] <LaziestUsernameEver> That 2011 HSNCT.
  1495. [2014-01-12 00:13:07] <ltholden> i like the win all on saturday part
  1496. [2014-01-12 00:13:12] <vig180> Sameer is actually playing a tournament?
  1497. [2014-01-12 00:13:15] <nathanweiser> I heard a rumor Arcadia might go to TI
  1498. [2014-01-12 00:13:15] <christino> yes
  1499. [2014-01-12 00:13:17] <ltholden> but i'll try a different sunday
  1500. [2014-01-12 00:13:20] <christino> SUBMIT at UCSD
  1501. [2014-01-12 00:13:31] <christino> it has been said that he's flying over or something
  1502. [2014-01-12 00:13:36] <ChunkySean> Yea
  1503. [2014-01-12 00:13:38] <ChunkySean> Lol
  1504. [2014-01-12 00:13:38] <vig180> it is written
  1505. [2014-01-12 00:13:39] <ChunkySean> in the morning
  1506. [2014-01-12 00:13:40] <ChunkySean> at 6 AM
  1507. [2014-01-12 00:13:43] <ChunkySean> they have a flight
  1508. [2014-01-12 00:14:02] <christino> they should build that hyperloop
  1509. [2014-01-12 00:14:03] <LaziestUsernameEver> So anything more on Arcadia?
  1510. [2014-01-12 00:14:07] <samus149> wait they're flying to SUBMIT at UCSD?
  1511. [2014-01-12 00:14:08] <christino> so that the circuit can integrate
  1512. [2014-01-12 00:14:19] <christino> yes
  1513. [2014-01-12 00:14:19] <ChunkySean> Yea Bellarmine is
  1514. [2014-01-12 00:14:24] <samus149> but...it's a Berkeley tournament
  1515. [2014-01-12 00:14:25] <HurrahPraga> isn't the high speed train on the way
  1516. [2014-01-12 00:14:35] <samus149> At Berkeley
  1517. [2014-01-12 00:14:43] <vig180> Arcadia, if they get their mental block out of the way and focus on studying high level real knowledge, could easily be top 5
  1518. [2014-01-12 00:14:43] <christino> i hear the current HSR proposal is one of the more terrible designs
  1519. [2014-01-12 00:14:50] <ChunkySean> is it SUBMIT they are playing?
  1520. [2014-01-12 00:14:52] <ChunkySean> im not sure
  1521. [2014-01-12 00:14:56] <ChunkySean> but i talk to bellarmine people
  1522. [2014-01-12 00:14:57] <LaziestUsernameEver> It's SUBMIT.
  1523. [2014-01-12 00:14:59] <christino> yes
  1524. [2014-01-12 00:15:01] <ChunkySean> and they are definetly playing something
  1525. [2014-01-12 00:15:02] <vig180> yes Ben, due to the absurdity of local CA politics
  1526. [2014-01-12 00:15:07] <HurrahPraga> so its still a proposal at this point
  1527. [2014-01-12 00:15:20] <ChunkySean> is High Tech going to TI?
  1528. [2014-01-12 00:15:28] <samus149> We don't have enough interest
  1529. [2014-01-12 00:15:34] <samus149> Pat and his stupid chess...
  1530. [2014-01-12 00:15:37] <christino> did any one of you apply to rice
  1531. [2014-01-12 00:15:51] <samus149> Pat did I think
  1532. [2014-01-12 00:15:59] <christino> ah, nevermind then
  1533. [2014-01-12 00:16:07] <HurrahPraga> no i didn't
  1534. [2014-01-12 00:16:14] <HurrahPraga> didn't bother after notre dame
  1535. [2014-01-12 00:16:26] <samus149> Fair enough
  1536. [2014-01-12 00:16:28] <LaziestUsernameEver> So any, back to the topic.
  1537. [2014-01-12 00:16:30] <christino> so we seem to have a pretty good consensus on arcadia
  1538. [2014-01-12 00:16:39] <LaziestUsernameEver> High Tech or Ladue next?
  1539. [2014-01-12 00:16:40] <christino> boyang's specialty is lit, right
  1540. [2014-01-12 00:16:43] <samus149> LADUUUUUUUUUUE
  1541. [2014-01-12 00:16:46] <christino> lol
  1542. [2014-01-12 00:16:49] <Dylan> somebody should start the where are you going to college thread for this year
  1543. [2014-01-12 00:16:55] <HurrahPraga> lets do ladue
  1544. [2014-01-12 00:17:00] <LaziestUsernameEver> Ladue it is.
  1545. [2014-01-12 00:17:02] <samus149> But that's only earlies, which is like 10 people
  1546. [2014-01-12 00:17:06] <samus149> Ladue is good
  1547. [2014-01-12 00:17:09] <christino> i'm gonna let everyone else do the talking first
  1548. [2014-01-12 00:17:11] <samus149> Ben is good
  1549. [2014-01-12 00:17:14] <HurrahPraga> ^
  1550. [2014-01-12 00:17:17] <samus149> And Jialin
  1551. [2014-01-12 00:17:25] <ChunkySean> how balanced is ladue?
  1552. [2014-01-12 00:17:27] <LaziestUsernameEver> Jialin has become a good second option, it seems.
  1553. [2014-01-12 00:17:28] <samus149> They're the new Max and Ben
  1554. [2014-01-12 00:17:28] <HurrahPraga> who graduated from last year?
  1555. [2014-01-12 00:17:34] <christino> max and haohang
  1556. [2014-01-12 00:17:35] <ChunkySean> maxi
  1557. [2014-01-12 00:17:36] <LaziestUsernameEver> Ladue is dominating local comp, as usual.
  1558. [2014-01-12 00:17:49] <LaziestUsernameEver> Great stats.
  1559. [2014-01-12 00:17:52] <samus149> Ben is a great generalist from what ive seen
  1560. [2014-01-12 00:17:55] <LaziestUsernameEver> Haven't been out of state yet.
  1561. [2014-01-12 00:18:01] <christino> we probably won't be
  1562. [2014-01-12 00:18:02] <samus149> Jialin does history/geo I think
  1563. [2014-01-12 00:18:17] <LaziestUsernameEver> But WUHSAC will be a good place to see how they do against out-of-state people.
  1564. [2014-01-12 00:18:20] <ChunkySean> and Ben is everything else?
  1565. [2014-01-12 00:18:20] <Dylan> Ben is a great player, Jialin is solid too. Idk how they can adjust to the post-Max world but they probably belong about here
  1566. [2014-01-12 00:18:24] <nathanweiser> Jialin was really good at geo last year
  1567. [2014-01-12 00:18:32] <christino> that ethiopia neg...
  1568. [2014-01-12 00:18:57] <HurrahPraga> still though, one neg
  1569. [2014-01-12 00:19:07] <christino> also my ether neg
  1570. [2014-01-12 00:19:13] <christino> when i put exactly the same leadin for my LIST tossup!
  1571. [2014-01-12 00:19:13] <samus149> That was hilarious
  1572. [2014-01-12 00:19:18] <ChunkySean> who else is on Ladue?
  1573. [2014-01-12 00:19:25] <christino> i remembered it had a prominent "ee" sound
  1574. [2014-01-12 00:19:33] <samus149> I think essentially nobody
  1575. [2014-01-12 00:19:37] <christino> yeah
  1576. [2014-01-12 00:19:46] <ChunkySean> 2 man team?
  1577. [2014-01-12 00:19:48] <HurrahPraga> are there bodies filling seats?
  1578. [2014-01-12 00:19:50] <christino> uh
  1579. [2014-01-12 00:19:57] <christino> supposedly, kisan thakkar will know lit
  1580. [2014-01-12 00:20:04] <Dylan> ladue b got t-21 and presumably brings someone up
  1581. [2014-01-12 00:20:04] <nathanweiser> is Ladue going to TI?
  1582. [2014-01-12 00:20:14] <christino> our NAQT state tournament is on that day
  1583. [2014-01-12 00:20:20] <lasakid> aww
  1584. [2014-01-12 00:20:23] <InfiniteStryker0> ben's dominating lederberg playtesting for what that's worth
  1585. [2014-01-12 00:20:24] <christino> i've expressed interest in going as a dymanic duo of me and jialin
  1586. [2014-01-12 00:20:25] <HurrahPraga> so someone good will be there
  1587. [2014-01-12 00:20:37] <samus149> I remember Ben at SASS at NSC
  1588. [2014-01-12 00:20:39] <christino> jialin is reluctant because that would mean a trip involving 6 megabuses
  1589. [2014-01-12 00:20:43] <samus149> you had a cool hat
  1590. [2014-01-12 00:20:56] <christino> heh
  1591. [2014-01-12 00:20:58] <samus149> and owned with Kevin
  1592. [2014-01-12 00:21:03] <christino> the number of hats we wore
  1593. [2014-01-12 00:21:05] <Dylan> oh Sass
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  1595. [2014-01-12 00:21:09] <christino> equals the number of national championships we've had
  1596. [2014-01-12 00:21:10] <HurrahPraga> kevin and ben should've been banned
  1597. [2014-01-12 00:21:10] <HurrahPraga> OP
  1598. [2014-01-12 00:21:20] <samus149> yeah that was too OP
  1599. [2014-01-12 00:21:32] <samus149> But I got a nice coloring book out of it
  1600. [2014-01-12 00:21:35] <Dylan> they didn't even win
  1601. [2014-01-12 00:21:36] <LaziestUsernameEver> Anything else to add about Ladue, Ben?
  1602. [2014-01-12 00:21:40] <christino> yeah
  1603. [2014-01-12 00:21:45] <christino> so we've been ranked pretty low
  1604. [2014-01-12 00:21:54] <ChunkySean> so i guess a potential negative is the 2 man aspect?
  1605. [2014-01-12 00:21:57] <christino> we've played the wrong sets, if our goal was to get ranked high
  1606. [2014-01-12 00:22:04] <samus149> Not sure if 2 man is a negative
  1607. [2014-01-12 00:22:08] <HurrahPraga> low? you're 6
  1608. [2014-01-12 00:22:13] <samus149> They did win last year on that model
  1609. [2014-01-12 00:22:13] <christino> 11th in the rankings
  1610. [2014-01-12 00:22:15] <HurrahPraga> unless low means high and high means low
  1611. [2014-01-12 00:22:18] <HurrahPraga> oh those rankings
  1612. [2014-01-12 00:22:24] <christino> yeah
  1613. [2014-01-12 00:22:30] <christino> our strengths are not NAQT
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  1615. [2014-01-12 00:22:40] <samus149> I think you guys are top 10 at least
  1616. [2014-01-12 00:22:43] <christino> the ACF subjects that come up in NAQT we're better at than in ACF
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  1618. [2014-01-12 00:22:53] <christino> but the NAQT stuff negates that advantage
  1619. [2014-01-12 00:22:59] <christino> so here's the thing
  1620. [2014-01-12 00:23:00] <Dylan> I think they probably got a name-recognition boost in the poll but you're probably top 10
  1621. [2014-01-12 00:23:02] <HurrahPraga> surprise current events tossup
  1622. [2014-01-12 00:23:12] <christino> the subjects we were strong in last year
  1623. [2014-01-12 00:23:22] <christino> as in, national-championship caliber good
  1624. [2014-01-12 00:23:28] <christino> generally went away with max and haohang
  1625. [2014-01-12 00:23:32] <ChunkySean> which were what?
  1626. [2014-01-12 00:23:36] <samus149> Lit + FA?
  1627. [2014-01-12 00:23:36] <christino> i.e. lit, arts, compsci
  1628. [2014-01-12 00:23:39] <HurrahPraga> you've got myth
  1629. [2014-01-12 00:23:44] <ChunkySean> ben, what is your specialty?
  1630. [2014-01-12 00:23:45] <christino> yeah that's 1/1
  1631. [2014-01-12 00:23:45] <HurrahPraga> and science that's not compsci
  1632. [2014-01-12 00:23:49] <christino> myth and soft science
  1633. [2014-01-12 00:23:54] <samus149> I've heard your Fine Arts is insanely hard when you write it
  1634. [2014-01-12 00:23:55] <HurrahPraga> and whatever else you've learned
  1635. [2014-01-12 00:24:03] <HurrahPraga> oh yeah, what sean sai
  1636. [2014-01-12 00:24:05] <christino> haohang wrote a pizzicato tossup for LIST last year
  1637. [2014-01-12 00:24:14] <samus149> Badger powered that
  1638. [2014-01-12 00:24:21] <christino> she wrote every single music question for LIST in the past 3 years
  1639. [2014-01-12 00:24:23] <christino> yeah
  1640. [2014-01-12 00:24:24] <Dylan> i don't remember that
  1641. [2014-01-12 00:24:34] <christino> so the only things we're really strong at are geo, bio, and myth
  1642. [2014-01-12 00:24:47] <christino> everything that we were weak in last year
  1643. [2014-01-12 00:24:56] <samus149> So you're saying you guys gotta up the generalist game to crack top 5?
  1644. [2014-01-12 00:24:59] <christino> but still good enough for a national-caliber team
  1645. [2014-01-12 00:25:03] <christino> became our strenghts this year
  1646. [2014-01-12 00:25:04] <christino> yeah
  1647. [2014-01-12 00:25:08] <christino> well
  1648. [2014-01-12 00:25:10] <christino> depends
  1649. [2014-01-12 00:25:22] <christino> i always worry that there's gonna be a round in which i know nothing
  1650. [2014-01-12 00:25:44] <christino> i'm not that great of a generalist, because i've been noticing that i always ignoring some stuff
  1651. [2014-01-12 00:26:04] <christino> but yeah, i think top 10 at nats
  1652. [2014-01-12 00:26:09] <christino> hopefully top 5
  1653. [2014-01-12 00:26:09] <ChunkySean> you guys have any 2 people to fill gaps?
  1654. [2014-01-12 00:26:12] <HurrahPraga> does Jilian fill that in?
  1655. [2014-01-12 00:26:17] <ChunkySean> like haohang and jialian did last year?
  1656. [2014-01-12 00:26:20] <christino> uh
  1657. [2014-01-12 00:26:27] <christino> our problem is our 4th
  1658. [2014-01-12 00:26:35] <christino> our math/physics/chem/compsci player left
  1659. [2014-01-12 00:26:46] <christino> so we're scrambling to find a new one
  1660. [2014-01-12 00:26:56] <samus149> Call the nerd horn
  1661. [2014-01-12 00:27:08] <christino> heh
  1662. [2014-01-12 00:27:22] <ChunkySean> no one from Ladue B last year?
  1663. [2014-01-12 00:27:29] <christino> i've also been beating our supposed lit specialist from ladue b last year to lit tossups
  1664. [2014-01-12 00:27:35] <christino> off my generalist knowledge, so that's a problem
  1665. [2014-01-12 00:28:01] <christino> also, my negs are a thing that can ruin matches
  1666. [2014-01-12 00:28:06] <christino> other than that, that's basically ladue
  1667. [2014-01-12 00:28:13] <LaziestUsernameEver> OK, great.
  1668. [2014-01-12 00:28:19] <LaziestUsernameEver> So High Tech now?
  1669. [2014-01-12 00:28:21] <samus149> #1 High School in Lincroft, NJ: High Tech
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  1671. [2014-01-12 00:28:28] <ChunkySean> Nice
  1672. [2014-01-12 00:28:29] <HurrahPraga> alright, lets not talk for a bit
  1673. [2014-01-12 00:28:32] <samus149> So let everybody talk first
  1674. [2014-01-12 00:28:33] <ChunkySean> Lot of respect for them
  1675. [2014-01-12 00:28:36] <christino> ranked the high school with the highest tech
  1676. [2014-01-12 00:28:37] <ChunkySean> Amazing team
  1677. [2014-01-12 00:28:41] <Dylan> I'll let the High Tech folks talk about themselves
  1678. [2014-01-12 00:28:48] <ChunkySean> amazingly well balanced
  1679. [2014-01-12 00:28:50] <HurrahPraga> our tech is like 2005
  1680. [2014-01-12 00:28:50] <ChunkySean> great power rates
  1681. [2014-01-12 00:28:53] <Dylan> only time I've seen them play is SASS
  1682. [2014-01-12 00:28:54] <LaziestUsernameEver> They've uh, been putting up great stats.
  1683. [2014-01-12 00:28:54] <ChunkySean> and great PPB
  1684. [2014-01-12 00:29:06] <ChunkySean> Strong areas
  1685. [2014-01-12 00:29:11] <ChunkySean> are Science and History
  1686. [2014-01-12 00:29:13] <LaziestUsernameEver> Seems like this year's A team is some combination of last year's A, B, and C teams.
  1687. [2014-01-12 00:29:19] <ChunkySean> Specifically Sean and Rohan
  1688. [2014-01-12 00:29:19] <HurrahPraga> Yep
  1689. [2014-01-12 00:29:20] <ceilingcat> Lukas says you'd give Berkeley A a really competitive game
  1690. [2014-01-12 00:29:21] <ChunkySean> and Pat
  1691. [2014-01-12 00:29:32] <ChunkySean> and i think Lit
  1692. [2014-01-12 00:29:35] <ChunkySean> is a weak area
  1693. [2014-01-12 00:29:37] <HurrahPraga> I'm not sure I'd go that far
  1694. [2014-01-12 00:29:39] <ChunkySean> but solid nonetheless
  1695. [2014-01-12 00:29:51] <samus149> So Pat, you wanna go first?
  1696. [2014-01-12 00:29:57] <HurrahPraga> alright, sure
  1697. [2014-01-12 00:29:57] <ChunkySean> not an unbeatable team, though
  1698. [2014-01-12 00:30:08] <ChunkySean> and they might have had some neg problems
  1699. [2014-01-12 00:30:10] <mbjackson> hey when all of this is done can someone send me a log? (mbjackson10@gmail)
  1700. [2014-01-12 00:30:11] <HurrahPraga> so sean is the best science player in the northeast, at least
  1701. [2014-01-12 00:30:26] <HurrahPraga> and has "fixed" the negging problem more or less
  1702. [2014-01-12 00:30:32] <HurrahPraga> at least at the last tournament
  1703. [2014-01-12 00:30:37] <HurrahPraga> Rohan steal some science questions
  1704. [2014-01-12 00:30:47] <HurrahPraga> we're also good at history, like mohan said
  1705. [2014-01-12 00:30:51] <HurrahPraga> that's rohan and me
  1706. [2014-01-12 00:31:01] <HurrahPraga> historically, we've been weak at lit and FA
  1707. [2014-01-12 00:31:06] <ChunkySean> Yea
  1708. [2014-01-12 00:31:08] <HurrahPraga> srishti's compensating forthat
  1709. [2014-01-12 00:31:11] <ChunkySean> I think i beat you guys
  1710. [2014-01-12 00:31:12] <ChunkySean> to those
  1711. [2014-01-12 00:31:13] <HurrahPraga> well multiple people are
  1712. [2014-01-12 00:31:26] <HurrahPraga> but we'll see how well that ends up
  1713. [2014-01-12 00:31:41] <HurrahPraga> Other than that, we don't like sports questions
  1714. [2014-01-12 00:31:42] <ChunkySean> i have a quick question
  1715. [2014-01-12 00:31:49] <ChunkySean> how do you guys split up the subjects?
  1716. [2014-01-12 00:31:56] <HurrahPraga> Roughtly
  1717. [2014-01-12 00:31:57] <samus149> lol
  1718. [2014-01-12 00:31:58] <ChunkySean> seems like you have multiple people overlaping
  1719. [2014-01-12 00:32:06] <HurrahPraga> and this isn't really anything consistent
  1720. [2014-01-12 00:32:09] <HurrahPraga> but sean on science
  1721. [2014-01-12 00:32:12] <HurrahPraga> rohan and me on history
  1722. [2014-01-12 00:32:15] <HurrahPraga> srishti on lit/FA
  1723. [2014-01-12 00:32:22] <HurrahPraga> but people cover a lot of things
  1724. [2014-01-12 00:32:36] <ChunkySean> I have heard Rohan is a beast
  1725. [2014-01-12 00:32:38] <HurrahPraga> sean, you want to go?
  1726. [2014-01-12 00:32:41] <HurrahPraga> he is
  1727. [2014-01-12 00:32:42] <samus149> yay my turn
  1728. [2014-01-12 00:32:50] <samus149> So it used to be
  1729. [2014-01-12 00:32:56] <samus149> what Pat said about subjects
  1730. [2014-01-12 00:33:02] <samus149> But over the summer we sorta branched out
  1731. [2014-01-12 00:33:03] <christino> does rohan beat jialin in geo?
  1732. [2014-01-12 00:33:10] <HurrahPraga> good question
  1733. [2014-01-12 00:33:11] <samus149> I did lit, Pat did paintings, Rohan did whatever
  1734. [2014-01-12 00:33:18] <samus149> Rohan is top 10 geo in the country
  1735. [2014-01-12 00:33:24] <samus149> I think he might
  1736. [2014-01-12 00:33:30] <HurrahPraga> he got 6 at madden's thing
  1737. [2014-01-12 00:33:35] <samus149> Yeah
  1738. [2014-01-12 00:33:50] <samus149> We've got good power rates, and PPB, and all that stuff
  1739. [2014-01-12 00:34:05] <samus149> I think our biggest problem is that we're sorta blase
  1740. [2014-01-12 00:34:12] <samus149> Like if we don't wanna study, we won't
  1741. [2014-01-12 00:34:14] <ChunkySean> Yea like almost losing to Hunter
  1742. [2014-01-12 00:34:15] <ChunkySean> Lol
  1743. [2014-01-12 00:34:19] <ChunkySean> and losing to DCC
  1744. [2014-01-12 00:34:33] <samus149> Princeton we were sorta getting the hang of being a team
  1745. [2014-01-12 00:34:42] <samus149> But now we're better I think
  1746. [2014-01-12 00:34:50] <samus149> And we try not to take the game too seriously
  1747. [2014-01-12 00:34:57] <samus149> And we protobowl...
  1748. [2014-01-12 00:35:11] <HurrahPraga> do we? when's the last time you protobowled
  1749. [2014-01-12 00:35:16] <mbjackson> booooo
  1750. [2014-01-12 00:35:17] <HurrahPraga> i haven't done it in months
  1751. [2014-01-12 00:35:18] <samus149> a couple days ago
  1752. [2014-01-12 00:35:23] <HurrahPraga> oh well, there you go
  1753. [2014-01-12 00:35:25] <samus149> Yeah we do it mostly to kill time now
  1754. [2014-01-12 00:35:32] <samus149> Though we also do college
  1755. [2014-01-12 00:35:36] <samus149> Anyways
  1756. [2014-01-12 00:35:45] <christino> oh yeah, same with ladue
  1757. [2014-01-12 00:36:01] <samus149> We like real knowledge too, at least in history and science, so we're about the same level with high level questions
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  1759. [2014-01-12 00:36:11] <samus149> And negging has mostly gone away
  1760. [2014-01-12 00:36:15] <HurrahPraga> our ppb could use some work
  1761. [2014-01-12 00:36:24] <samus149> According to my OCD charts
  1762. [2014-01-12 00:36:31] <ChunkySean> how did u guys get so good at Bonuses though?
  1763. [2014-01-12 00:36:37] <ChunkySean> did u study them specifically?
  1764. [2014-01-12 00:36:38] <samus149> We didnt
  1765. [2014-01-12 00:36:40] <HurrahPraga> nope
  1766. [2014-01-12 00:36:40] <samus149> They got easier
  1767. [2014-01-12 00:36:42] <HurrahPraga> no idea
  1768. [2014-01-12 00:36:45] <HurrahPraga> we learned things
  1769. [2014-01-12 00:36:49] <samus149> We literally never study bonuses
  1770. [2014-01-12 00:36:54] <ChunkySean> are you guys good at CE?
  1771. [2014-01-12 00:37:00] <HurrahPraga> we're not good enough at them though, so we're working on them
  1772. [2014-01-12 00:37:02] <samus149> Yeah Pat and Rohan are insane
  1773. [2014-01-12 00:37:07] <samus149> Rohan reads french newspapers
  1774. [2014-01-12 00:37:08] <HurrahPraga> both rohan and i keep up on stuff
  1775. [2014-01-12 00:37:12] <HurrahPraga> i don't know about insane
  1776. [2014-01-12 00:37:13] <LaziestUsernameEver> Le Monde?
  1777. [2014-01-12 00:37:15] <HurrahPraga> we're decent
  1778. [2014-01-12 00:37:20] <samus149> Yeah that
  1779. [2014-01-12 00:37:24] <HurrahPraga> rohan probably does
  1780. [2014-01-12 00:37:29] <LaziestUsernameEver> That's a good one.
  1781. [2014-01-12 00:37:36] <samus149> We have crossover which is good
  1782. [2014-01-12 00:37:49] <ChunkySean> I think you guys are under ranked
  1783. [2014-01-12 00:37:53] <ChunkySean> possibly
  1784. [2014-01-12 00:37:54] <HurrahPraga> no way
  1785. [2014-01-12 00:37:55] <samus149> And if we keep studying, we'll get better, though we probably won't keep studying
  1786. [2014-01-12 00:37:57] <HurrahPraga> over if anything
  1787. [2014-01-12 00:38:00] <HurrahPraga> we'll keep studying
  1788. [2014-01-12 00:38:02] <samus149> We're ranked where we should be I think
  1789. [2014-01-12 00:38:05] <HurrahPraga> at least I will
  1790. [2014-01-12 00:38:09] <samus149> lolnope
  1791. [2014-01-12 00:38:11] <HurrahPraga> and I'll make you guys at least pretend
  1792. [2014-01-12 00:38:20] <HurrahPraga> don't you have a physics thing to study for
  1793. [2014-01-12 00:38:21] <samus149> Srishti has to learn to be a music nerd
  1794. [2014-01-12 00:38:23] <HurrahPraga> like an olympiad
  1795. [2014-01-12 00:38:31] <samus149> That's days away
  1796. [2014-01-12 00:38:33] <HurrahPraga> that counts as studying
  1797. [2014-01-12 00:38:35] <HurrahPraga> wait really
  1798. [2014-01-12 00:38:39] <samus149> Yeah
  1799. [2014-01-12 00:38:42] <samus149> but ignoring that
  1800. [2014-01-12 00:38:43] <HurrahPraga> well good luck
  1801. [2014-01-12 00:38:51] <samus149> so that's our team summary
  1802. [2014-01-12 00:38:55] <samus149> We're pretty derp tbh
  1803. [2014-01-12 00:39:02] <HurrahPraga> Decent, could use some work
  1804. [2014-01-12 00:39:08] <samus149> If you play us, we will be the least serious team you've ever seen
  1805. [2014-01-12 00:39:41] <HurrahPraga> unless anyone has questions, that's all we've got to say
  1806. [2014-01-12 00:40:03] <Dylan> alright, next?
  1807. [2014-01-12 00:40:11] <HurrahPraga> imsa
  1808. [2014-01-12 00:40:12] <ltholden> IMSA
  1809. [2014-01-12 00:40:17] <HurrahPraga> anton's good as alwas
  1810. [2014-01-12 00:40:20] <HurrahPraga> plus the new guy
  1811. [2014-01-12 00:40:21] <ltholden> Anton's fantastic
  1812. [2014-01-12 00:40:27] <samus149> Anton is good at everything NAQT and science
  1813. [2014-01-12 00:40:38] <HurrahPraga> his geo's insane
  1814. [2014-01-12 00:40:39] <samus149> His team is great at everything else
  1815. [2014-01-12 00:40:41] <ltholden> honestly it's up to getting great at lit
  1816. [2014-01-12 00:40:49] <ltholden> and you've got a top 5 team easy
  1817. [2014-01-12 00:40:54] <samus149> Rohan told me at geo bee last year 2-10 were around the same
  1818. [2014-01-12 00:40:59] <samus149> and Anton was in a league of his own
  1819. [2014-01-12 00:41:00] <LaziestUsernameEver> Is it Dan Pechi or Andrew Salij who's going to end up on IMSA A?
  1820. [2014-01-12 00:41:13] <christino> didn't dan once outscore anton
  1821. [2014-01-12 00:41:24] <LaziestUsernameEver> Dunno.
  1822. [2014-01-12 00:41:28] <christino> at like HFT or something
  1823. [2014-01-12 00:41:57] <christino> http://www.ihssbca.org/statistics/2013_HFT_Auburn/2013_HFT_Auburn_teamdetail.php#t4
  1824. [2014-01-12 00:42:01] <christino> nope, andrew salij
  1825. [2014-01-12 00:42:13] <Dylan> probably Pechi but idk
  1826. [2014-01-12 00:42:38] <Dylan> Andrew Salij is a good generalist but I doubt he scales to nationals level the way the others do
  1827. [2014-01-12 00:42:46] <christino> to me, anton is really confusing
  1828. [2014-01-12 00:42:53] <HurrahPraga> does imsa have room for a generalist
  1829. [2014-01-12 00:43:07] <christino> how is someone so good at the minutiae that comes up in NAQT with absolutely no regularity
  1830. [2014-01-12 00:43:08] <samus149> They really need a lit person from what I understand
  1831. [2014-01-12 00:43:33] <InfiniteStryker0> what happened to that girl on imsa who looked really uncomfortable and sad throughout pace
  1832. [2014-01-12 00:43:37] <Dylan> yeah that's their biggest hole
  1833. [2014-01-12 00:43:39] <InfiniteStryker0> she was good at lit
  1834. [2014-01-12 00:43:40] <ltholden> graduated
  1835. [2014-01-12 00:43:41] <christino> yeah
  1836. [2014-01-12 00:43:41] <Dylan> sabrina graduated
  1837. [2014-01-12 00:43:42] <christino> she graduated
  1838. [2014-01-12 00:43:44] <samus149> sabrina left
  1839. [2014-01-12 00:43:51] <LaziestUsernameEver> Sabrina was good.
  1840. [2014-01-12 00:43:57] <InfiniteStryker0> oh, where does she go
  1841. [2014-01-12 00:44:01] <LaziestUsernameEver> I lucked out against her at HSNCT. I really shouldn't have.
  1842. [2014-01-12 00:44:21] <mbjackson> somewhere, not playing qb
  1843. [2014-01-12 00:44:25] <ltholden> yeah b team could've beat imsa at pace but she beat lane
  1844. [2014-01-12 00:44:31] <christino> that reminds me, i didn't finish my upenn app in time
  1845. [2014-01-12 00:44:32] <ltholden> so we lose
  1846. [2014-01-12 00:44:35] <SamBaSam> A farm upstate.
  1847. [2014-01-12 00:44:48] <InfiniteStryker0> damn
  1848. [2014-01-12 00:44:51] <mbjackson> tee hee
  1849. [2014-01-12 00:45:00] <InfiniteStryker0> that's too bad
  1850. [2014-01-12 00:45:11] <samus149> oh god college
  1851. [2014-01-12 00:45:24] <mbjackson> yeah let's not freak the seniors in the channel out by Going There
  1852. [2014-01-12 00:45:31] <christino> i shoud've just used my rice essay, since it was talking about how i loved benjamin franklin and how i named myself after him
  1853. [2014-01-12 00:45:38] <Dylan> oh man college apps
  1854. [2014-01-12 00:45:43] <mbjackson> how very German of you
  1855. [2014-01-12 00:45:47] <InfiniteStryker0> sorry guys
  1856. [2014-01-12 00:45:50] <HurrahPraga> haha college apps
  1857. [2014-01-12 00:45:56] <samus149> 11 rejections forthcoming
  1858. [2014-01-12 00:46:04] <christino> no, rejections aren't bad
  1859. [2014-01-12 00:46:05] <InfiniteStryker0> (and girls)
  1860. [2014-01-12 00:46:06] <christino> 11 waitlistings
  1861. [2014-01-12 00:46:08] <mbjackson> so i just rolled in here; how many teams are left to go over?
  1862. [2014-01-12 00:46:12] <christino> 2.5
  1863. [2014-01-12 00:46:15] <samus149> 4
  1864. [2014-01-12 00:46:23] <christino> oh wait imsa is not a top 3 team
  1865. [2014-01-12 00:46:30] <LaziestUsernameEver> We done with IMSA?
  1866. [2014-01-12 00:46:33] <HurrahPraga> they're 5
  1867. [2014-01-12 00:46:34] <nathanweiser> 2.5?
  1868. [2014-01-12 00:46:43] <samus149> they're very good and accurately ranked
  1869. [2014-01-12 00:46:48] <christino> i thought they were #3 and we're halfway done with them
  1870. [2014-01-12 00:47:04] <ChunkySean> who next
  1871. [2014-01-12 00:47:05] <mbjackson> signs point to Auburn surpassing them at this point
  1872. [2014-01-12 00:47:07] <christino> and better on NAQT and NSC
  1873. [2014-01-12 00:47:09] <christino> *than
  1874. [2014-01-12 00:47:16] <mbjackson> but that may have been gone over already
  1875. [2014-01-12 00:47:18] <christino> even NAQT?
  1876. [2014-01-12 00:47:32] <Dylan> IMSA is probably overranked
  1877. [2014-01-12 00:47:39] <Dylan> and auburn is surging
  1878. [2014-01-12 00:48:00] <christino> i'd say that ranking has a decent shot at coming true at nats
  1879. [2014-01-12 00:48:07] <LaziestUsernameEver> I think IMSA could edge Auburn out on NAQT.
  1880. [2014-01-12 00:48:11] <LaziestUsernameEver> Maybe.
  1881. [2014-01-12 00:48:19] <mbjackson> going up the poll number 4 is Dorman
  1882. [2014-01-12 00:48:20] <LaziestUsernameEver> But Auburn is on the rise for sure.
  1883. [2014-01-12 00:48:22] <Dylan> yeah IMSA has the edge on NAQT
  1884. [2014-01-12 00:48:24] <samus149> doorman
  1885. [2014-01-12 00:48:31] <mbjackson> what kind of stats do they have this year, and what sorts of matches have they won/lost thus far
  1886. [2014-01-12 00:48:32] <ltholden> Dorman#1 amirite?
  1887. [2014-01-12 00:48:33] <LaziestUsernameEver> Dormen.
  1888. [2014-01-12 00:48:36] <Dylan> convince us, lee
  1889. [2014-01-12 00:48:42] <christino> nah
  1890. [2014-01-12 00:48:44] <ltholden> Alright
  1891. [2014-01-12 00:48:51] <ltholden> Well I think we're good
  1892. [2014-01-12 00:48:55] <christino> we should talk first so that he can dispel the myths
  1893. [2014-01-12 00:48:56] <ltholden> We can't beat Hooch
  1894. [2014-01-12 00:48:59] <ltholden> By some sorcery
  1895. [2014-01-12 00:49:09] <samus149> i like ben's plan
  1896. [2014-01-12 00:49:15] <ltholden> But otherwise we have had easy peezy against everybody
  1897. [2014-01-12 00:49:24] <ltholden> eric xu and maggie walker included
  1898. [2014-01-12 00:49:31] <LaziestUsernameEver> Dorman has won every tournament they've been at except for two.
  1899. [2014-01-12 00:49:39] <ltholden> i'm just not going to count uk
  1900. [2014-01-12 00:49:44] <LaziestUsernameEver> Those two being Ezell-Harding (on an IS set) and UK.
  1901. [2014-01-12 00:49:47] <ltholden> that was not good day for us
  1902. [2014-01-12 00:49:54] <ltholden> I'm laying it on us
  1903. [2014-01-12 00:50:05] <LaziestUsernameEver> Is Dorman going to TI?
  1904. [2014-01-12 00:50:14] <ltholden> there was mad juju
  1905. [2014-01-12 00:50:16] <ltholden> and yeah we are
  1906. [2014-01-12 00:50:18] <samus149> Who does what on your team?
  1907. [2014-01-12 00:50:31] <ChunkySean> yea u guys r so balanced
  1908. [2014-01-12 00:50:34] <ltholden> Me and Tabs split history
  1909. [2014-01-12 00:50:35] <ChunkySean> similar to Ht
  1910. [2014-01-12 00:50:42] <ltholden> "split"
  1911. [2014-01-12 00:50:45] <christino> i was kinda disappointed by dorman's IS-132 ppb, to be honest
  1912. [2014-01-12 00:50:46] <ltholden> as in we do history
  1913. [2014-01-12 00:50:57] <ltholden> I mean we've struggled with ppb sometimes
  1914. [2014-01-12 00:51:11] <ltholden> like Lane's good at lit, he's just not super top notch
  1915. [2014-01-12 00:51:18] <ltholden> and Chase has a reviewing issue
  1916. [2014-01-12 00:51:42] <ltholden> Chase will 0 a science bonus if you let him
  1917. [2014-01-12 00:51:45] <ChunkySean> who does science?
  1918. [2014-01-12 00:51:54] <ltholden> and I HAVE NO CLUE WHY
  1919. [2014-01-12 00:51:59] <ltholden> chase
  1920. [2014-01-12 00:51:59] <LaziestUsernameEver> Chase does science.
  1921. [2014-01-12 00:52:15] <christino> he beat me to a cAMP tossup last year
  1922. [2014-01-12 00:52:29] <ltholden> Like he destroyed Missouri Open, but that's the only tournament he's really owned.
  1923. [2014-01-12 00:52:47] <christino> oh
  1924. [2014-01-12 00:52:47] <ltholden> He's so good
  1925. [2014-01-12 00:52:53] <christino> missouri open science was written off wikipedia
  1926. [2014-01-12 00:52:54] <Dylan> chase knows a lot of things but I noticed last year's dorman b would randomly zero bonuses
  1927. [2014-01-12 00:52:54] <ltholden> but so bad sometimes
  1928. [2014-01-12 00:53:11] <ltholden> like our history ppb is like 28
  1929. [2014-01-12 00:53:21] <ltholden> and lit is like 25
  1930. [2014-01-12 00:53:34] <ltholden> but like science will be in the lower 20s a lot
  1931. [2014-01-12 00:53:45] <ltholden> and i love chase I'm not trying to put him down
  1932. [2014-01-12 00:53:52] <ltholden> I fully expect him to kill it at nats
  1933. [2014-01-12 00:54:14] <christino> hmm
  1934. [2014-01-12 00:54:25] <ltholden> but he's had a lot of issues concentrating and playing well on regular difficulty sets
  1935. [2014-01-12 00:54:27] <christino> what i got from it was "he is not completely dependable for science at nats"
  1936. [2014-01-12 00:54:28] <ltholden> even acf fall
  1937. [2014-01-12 00:54:58] <ltholden> Like honestly, Himendra from the B team will likely be the best science player in the country next year
  1938. [2014-01-12 00:55:16] <nathanweiser> ^coren wagen?
  1939. [2014-01-12 00:55:18] <ChunkySean> who is returning for Dorman?
  1940. [2014-01-12 00:55:19] <samus149> corin doe
  1941. [2014-01-12 00:55:24] <nathanweiser> corrrrrrrin
  1942. [2014-01-12 00:55:37] <christino> the high tech guy spells his name correctly
  1943. [2014-01-12 00:55:40] <LaziestUsernameEver> This year or next?
  1944. [2014-01-12 00:55:48] <ChunkySean> next year
  1945. [2014-01-12 00:55:49] <ChunkySean> i mean
  1946. [2014-01-12 00:55:52] <samus149> Corin beat me to a particle physics tossup
  1947. [2014-01-12 00:55:53] <LaziestUsernameEver> Himendra.
  1948. [2014-01-12 00:55:54] <HurrahPraga> corin's pretty good
  1949. [2014-01-12 00:55:56] <samus149> I will never forgive him
  1950. [2014-01-12 00:56:04] <ltholden> and there have been a lot of issues due to Himendra being really focused and Chase not so much
  1951. [2014-01-12 00:56:21] <ltholden> The kid's a beast
  1952. [2014-01-12 00:56:25] <ChunkySean> what did Himendra do on your B team last year?
  1953. [2014-01-12 00:56:30] <ChunkySean> since they overlapped in science
  1954. [2014-01-12 00:56:30] <ltholden> Science
  1955. [2014-01-12 00:56:40] <Dylan> has he really improved that much
  1956. [2014-01-12 00:56:49] <ltholden> God he's good.
  1957. [2014-01-12 00:56:50] <Dylan> i got the impression that chase was way better than him
  1958. [2014-01-12 00:57:19] <ltholden> Right now, I'd say they're equal, honestly.
  1959. [2014-01-12 00:57:20] <LaziestUsernameEver> Same.
  1960. [2014-01-12 00:57:56] <ltholden> Himendra will get beat on some regular science stuff, but he'll crush chase on some harder clues.
  1961. [2014-01-12 00:58:01] <LaziestUsernameEver> Hm.
  1962. [2014-01-12 00:58:06] <samus149> So consistency's the biggest issue?
  1963. [2014-01-12 00:58:16] <ltholden> I mean, yeah?
  1964. [2014-01-12 00:58:25] <ltholden> We're potentially super good.
  1965. [2014-01-12 00:58:31] <ltholden> And we've dominated mostly.
  1966. [2014-01-12 00:58:38] <ltholden> It's just there's issues.
  1967. [2014-01-12 00:58:45] [INFO] Now logging to <file:///C:/Users/christino/AppData/Roaming/ChatZilla/Profiles/ymeae3mv.default/chatzilla/logs/slashnet/channels/%23quizbowl.2014-01-12.log>.
  1968. [2014-01-12 00:58:52] <ltholden> We are currently my dream team
  1969. [2014-01-12 00:58:55] <ltholden> I like it how it is.
  1970. [2014-01-12 00:59:00] <ryu> how modest
  1971. [2014-01-12 00:59:15] <ltholden> As in players on our team
  1972. [2014-01-12 00:59:32] <LaziestUsernameEver> Well, anything else on Dorman?
  1973. [2014-01-12 00:59:36] <LaziestUsernameEver> Or can we move on?
  1974. [2014-01-12 01:00:06] <christino> do you neg
  1975. [2014-01-12 01:00:07] <ltholden> I mean, we intend to revenge ourselves on Sameer at NHBB for snatching victory from us on the last question in the semis
  1976. [2014-01-12 01:00:13] <ltholden> We do
  1977. [2014-01-12 01:00:18] <ltholden> we're cutting it down
  1978. [2014-01-12 01:00:43] <mbjackson> how do multi-team schools usually handle nhbb?
  1979. [2014-01-12 01:00:54] <mbjackson> do they put their full A-team up or take the history players from A, B, and C and smush
  1980. [2014-01-12 01:00:56] <ltholden> We had like a no neg 30 ppb game at acf fall. or maybe some negs, I can't remember, obviously no negs at acf
  1981. [2014-01-12 01:01:19] <christino> for local history bowls, ladue puts our history people
  1982. [2014-01-12 01:01:24] <HurrahPraga> High Tech puts the history people only
  1983. [2014-01-12 01:01:27] <ltholden> Last year we did me and lane from B and tabs and brian from A
  1984. [2014-01-12 01:01:32] <samus149> We send our A, B, and C history people
  1985. [2014-01-12 01:01:32] <nathanweiser> LASA usually takes the three best history players from A and B and then takes a random RMP/Lit person
  1986. [2014-01-12 01:01:32] <HurrahPraga> which is nearly exactly the a team anyway
  1987. [2014-01-12 01:01:41] <ltholden> The plan this year is full a team at nats
  1988. [2014-01-12 01:01:42] <LaziestUsernameEver> Hooch did the history people and then some others to get history of lit/science.
  1989. [2014-01-12 01:01:43] <samus149> Minus me!
  1990. [2014-01-12 01:01:44] <ltholden> A team
  1991. [2014-01-12 01:01:45] <christino> there's no point in wasting, say, haohang's saturday by making her play a tournament she's not gonna get a question in
  1992. [2014-01-12 01:01:58] <christino> hmm
  1993. [2014-01-12 01:02:00] <--| ryu has left #quizbowl (..)
  1994. [2014-01-12 01:02:09] <ChunkySean> music?
  1995. [2014-01-12 01:02:10] <SamBaSam> Ruining people's Saturdays builds character.
  1996. [2014-01-12 01:02:13] <ChunkySean> what about Shub?
  1997. [2014-01-12 01:02:46] <ltholden> He's fantastic, but I think our coach's plan is to just stick with the A team.
  1998. [2014-01-12 01:03:05] <ltholden> He doesn't know anything history-wise that me and tabs don't, basically.
  1999. [2014-01-12 01:03:10] <ltholden> He's a speed demon though
  2000. [2014-01-12 01:03:13] <vig180> Lee, what do y'all do to practice at Dorman
  2001. [2014-01-12 01:03:33] <ltholden> Play games three days a week.
  2002. [2014-01-12 01:03:39] <ltholden> study practice on thursday
  2003. [2014-01-12 01:03:48] <christino> sounds intense
  2004. [2014-01-12 01:03:48] <InfiniteStryker0> extensive
  2005. [2014-01-12 01:04:05] <ltholden> but it's basically like a chance to review quietly for an hour and a half
  2006. [2014-01-12 01:04:06] <christino> yeah, i'm wondering how often these top teams practice
  2007. [2014-01-12 01:04:07] <vig180> what is "study practice"
  2008. [2014-01-12 01:04:20] <ltholden> We practice a lot
  2009. [2014-01-12 01:04:21] <vig180> review quietly!
  2010. [2014-01-12 01:04:25] <vig180> interesting
  2011. [2014-01-12 01:04:35] <vig180> how much HW
  2012. [2014-01-12 01:04:35] <LaziestUsernameEver> Hooch practices are basically "read old packets".
  2013. [2014-01-12 01:04:39] <LaziestUsernameEver> That includes super-old IS sets.
  2014. [2014-01-12 01:04:40] <samus149> We have practice, but it's mostly A team reads to other teams awkwardly
  2015. [2014-01-12 01:04:53] <christino> ladue has practice 2, maybe 3, times a month
  2016. [2014-01-12 01:04:56] <ltholden> Really study practice is to get the freshmen and newer team members into good habits of studyig
  2017. [2014-01-12 01:04:56] <HurrahPraga> it's only awkward if you make it awkward
  2018. [2014-01-12 01:04:57] <christino> for 1 hour each
  2019. [2014-01-12 01:05:00] <LaziestUsernameEver> And random D-II's.
  2020. [2014-01-12 01:05:05] <HurrahPraga> besides, we need to get freshmen in somehow
  2021. [2014-01-12 01:05:07] <InfiniteStryker0> what are good study habits
  2022. [2014-01-12 01:05:09] <ltholden> It didn't really set in till like the beginning of junior year for me thoguh
  2023. [2014-01-12 01:05:18] <nathanweiser> at LASA, someone reads a packet while an a-team member rides around the classroom on a scooter
  2024. [2014-01-12 01:05:34] <HurrahPraga> i like that way better
  2025. [2014-01-12 01:05:34] <mbjackson> but actually?
  2026. [2014-01-12 01:05:40] <christino> imagine you're in the hsnct finals, it's tied, and the last tossup has a leadin consisting of the clue you're just learning
  2027. [2014-01-12 01:05:51] <Dylan> what
  2028. [2014-01-12 01:06:06] <nathanweiser> I'm actually 80% not joking
  2029. [2014-01-12 01:06:09] <LaziestUsernameEver> A scooter?
  2030. [2014-01-12 01:06:17] <LaziestUsernameEver> Where does this scooter come from?
  2031. [2014-01-12 01:06:18] <lasakid> Like a razer scooter
  2032. [2014-01-12 01:06:19] <samus149> We will acquire one posthaste
  2033. [2014-01-12 01:06:21] <HurrahPraga> it seems to be working
  2034. [2014-01-12 01:06:21] <christino> 80%?
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  2036. [2014-01-12 01:06:28] <mbjackson> that's the secret ingredient, folks
  2037. [2014-01-12 01:06:31] <christino> so a B team member rides around on a scooter?
  2038. [2014-01-12 01:06:32] <LaziestUsernameEver> Brilliant.
  2039. [2014-01-12 01:06:35] <InfiniteStryker0> a scooter?
  2040. [2014-01-12 01:06:36] <lasakid> A team only
  2041. [2014-01-12 01:06:37] <HurrahPraga> clearly everyone in the country needs a scooter at 80% of practices
  2042. [2014-01-12 01:06:37] <nathanweiser> sometimes
  2043. [2014-01-12 01:06:43] <nathanweiser> it's actually Ethan's scooter
  2044. [2014-01-12 01:06:48] <LaziestUsernameEver> It all makes sense now.
  2045. [2014-01-12 01:07:20] <christino> if only our classrooms were big enough for scooters
  2046. [2014-01-12 01:07:56] <MattBo> didn't Ethan learn his lesson about unsafe activities
  2047. [2014-01-12 01:08:15] <LaziestUsernameEver> Does it have to be a scooter?
  2048. [2014-01-12 01:08:19] <christino> he should feel free to continue
  2049. [2014-01-12 01:08:34] <christino> anyway does anyone want to read through this in the log
  2050. [2014-01-12 01:08:44] <christino> anything else on dorman
  2051. [2014-01-12 01:08:45] <nathanweiser> Ethan Russo lives on the edge
  2052. [2014-01-12 01:09:12] <christino> guess not
  2053. [2014-01-12 01:09:16] <christino> LASA B it is
  2054. [2014-01-12 01:09:18] <LaziestUsernameEver> So LASA B?
  2055. [2014-01-12 01:09:21] <LaziestUsernameEver> Aight.
  2056. [2014-01-12 01:09:28] <LaziestUsernameEver> So I'm assuming it's just last year's LASA C.
  2057. [2014-01-12 01:09:29] <samus149> Time for Texas
  2058. [2014-01-12 01:09:34] <lasakid> LASA "not scooter"
  2059. [2014-01-12 01:09:39] <nathanweiser> they are really good at quiz bowl
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  2062. [2014-01-12 01:09:43] <christino> is ying liu on teh B team?
  2063. [2014-01-12 01:09:54] <mbjackson> what is the breakdown between ethan and corin, for those of us who have never seen them play
  2064. [2014-01-12 01:09:58] <mbjackson> and what do the other team members add?
  2065. [2014-01-12 01:10:07] <mbjackson> "they're really good" is going to be true across all the teams here, frankly
  2066. [2014-01-12 01:10:14] <HurrahPraga> lasa b was pretty good at penn bowl
  2067. [2014-01-12 01:10:16] <Dylan> teams from lasa are pretty good at hitting the button and saying the correct answer
  2068. [2014-01-12 01:10:19] <Dylan> Corin is science iirc
  2069. [2014-01-12 01:10:28] <christino> ethan is more humanities
  2070. [2014-01-12 01:10:30] <nathanweiser> corin is probably the best high school science player
  2071. [2014-01-12 01:10:31] <samus149> Corin is science irl
  2072. [2014-01-12 01:10:46] <nathanweiser> they're joined by Alex Denko and Forrest Hammel
  2073. [2014-01-12 01:10:50] <christino> irl? not iirc?
  2074. [2014-01-12 01:11:05] <samus149> I think when we played, I got 2, 1 on a race, he got 1, and I negged one that went dead
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  2076. [2014-01-12 01:11:20] <nathanweiser> Denko has really deep history knowledge
  2077. [2014-01-12 01:11:36] <LaziestUsernameEver> And Forrest?
  2078. [2014-01-12 01:11:43] <lasakid> He's a really good captain
  2079. [2014-01-12 01:11:49] <nathanweiser> Forrest is good at some NAQT specialty subjects (sports, ce), but he's kind of lacking a subject right now
  2080. [2014-01-12 01:11:54] <nathanweiser> he is a good captain
  2081. [2014-01-12 01:11:56] <HurrahPraga> wait if corin is the best science player why isn't he on the a team
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  2083. [2014-01-12 01:12:15] <christino> i believe it's because he has to replace someone
  2084. [2014-01-12 01:12:21] <christino> and the cost/benefit thing isn't clear
  2085. [2014-01-12 01:12:33] <nathanweiser> Corin also plays better with Ethan
  2086. [2014-01-12 01:12:41] <HurrahPraga> makes sense
  2087. [2014-01-12 01:12:44] <samus149> The two of them keep taking things by storm
  2088. [2014-01-12 01:12:48] <LaziestUsernameEver> Any weakness in this team?
  2089. [2014-01-12 01:12:55] <nathanweiser> visual art
  2090. [2014-01-12 01:12:58] <lasakid> they're very cute
  2091. [2014-01-12 01:13:01] <lasakid> it's distracting
  2092. [2014-01-12 01:13:02] <ChunkySean> they had lost to Seven Lakes at one point
  2093. [2014-01-12 01:13:07] <ChunkySean> so why was that?
  2094. [2014-01-12 01:13:09] <nathanweiser> more modern history, especially american
  2095. [2014-01-12 01:13:14] <HurrahPraga> i keep reading that as laskarid. its confusing
  2096. [2014-01-12 01:13:28] <lasakid> haha, the loss to 7lakes was on the a team's packet
  2097. [2014-01-12 01:13:32] <nathanweiser> part of it was that Seven Lakes got a good packet
  2098. [2014-01-12 01:13:46] <nathanweiser> ^actually that was all of it
  2099. [2014-01-12 01:13:51] <lasakid> a remarkably well conceived packet
  2100. [2014-01-12 01:14:03] <samus149> I remember last year they owned HSNCT
  2101. [2014-01-12 01:14:06] <nathanweiser> though Seven Lakes are pretty good at quiz bowl themselves
  2102. [2014-01-12 01:14:18] <HurrahPraga> they stomped us last year at hsnct
  2103. [2014-01-12 01:14:25] <HurrahPraga> assuming they were last year's c team
  2104. [2014-01-12 01:14:28] <lasakid> yup
  2105. [2014-01-12 01:14:30] <samus149> Yeah they are
  2106. [2014-01-12 01:14:36] <samus149> We played them at pace
  2107. [2014-01-12 01:14:38] <nathanweiser> LASA B is definitely a top team this year, but I don't know about top 3
  2108. [2014-01-12 01:14:43] <mbjackson> more lakes, more fun
  2109. [2014-01-12 01:14:47] <LaziestUsernameEver> Top 5?
  2110. [2014-01-12 01:14:52] <samus149> I think that's a fair ranking actually
  2111. [2014-01-12 01:14:53] <nathanweiser> probably
  2112. [2014-01-12 01:15:02] <samus149> They're gonna get better throughout the year
  2113. [2014-01-12 01:15:05] <HurrahPraga> it seems fair
  2114. [2014-01-12 01:15:07] <nathanweiser> next year though... and the year after that...
  2115. [2014-01-12 01:15:28] <ChunkySean> whats up with LASA C this year?
  2116. [2014-01-12 01:15:30] <nathanweiser> if ethan starts studying again, they could really be a top 3 team
  2117. [2014-01-12 01:15:31] <ChunkySean> are they any good?
  2118. [2014-01-12 01:15:36] <christino> i gotta get my middle schoolers in shape
  2119. [2014-01-12 01:15:38] <lasakid> we have no idea who's on lasa c
  2120. [2014-01-12 01:15:39] <samus149> I think they're....eh
  2121. [2014-01-12 01:15:47] <christino> they haven't heard of belarus
  2122. [2014-01-12 01:15:59] <samus149> tbf, neither had I a year ago
  2123. [2014-01-12 01:16:04] <nathanweiser> We have some very talented underclassmen who will be really good in a year or two
  2124. [2014-01-12 01:16:21] <samus149> ^LASA's motto
  2125. [2014-01-12 01:16:25] <ChunkySean> Denko is a junior right?
  2126. [2014-01-12 01:16:26] <nathanweiser> I think LASA C will at least go 6-4 on saturday
  2127. [2014-01-12 01:16:35] <nathanweiser> Yeah, Denko's a junior.
  2128. [2014-01-12 01:17:06] <lasakid> We picked up two from last year's Kealing
  2129. [2014-01-12 01:17:16] <lasakid> They'll probably be on C
  2130. [2014-01-12 01:17:18] <lasakid> maybe Ying
  2131. [2014-01-12 01:17:21] <LaziestUsernameEver> So which LASA kid is lasakid?
  2132. [2014-01-12 01:17:22] <lasakid> all to be seen
  2133. [2014-01-12 01:17:39] <lasakid> Hi! I'm Arnav
  2134. [2014-01-12 01:17:54] <ChunkySean> Why is Ying not on B?
  2135. [2014-01-12 01:18:06] <christino> isn't he mostly science/bio
  2136. [2014-01-12 01:18:16] <nathanweiser> The B team plays really well as a unit
  2137. [2014-01-12 01:18:27] <nathanweiser> and Corin would make Ying redundant
  2138. [2014-01-12 01:18:53] <ChunkySean> alright, thats unfortunate
  2139. [2014-01-12 01:18:55] <ChunkySean> getting demoted
  2140. [2014-01-12 01:19:18] <nathanweiser> actually, a LASA D team of Ying and other lazy seniors could do pretty well at HSNCT
  2141. [2014-01-12 01:19:41] <ChunkySean> who else is there?
  2142. [2014-01-12 01:19:43] <LaziestUsernameEver> I'm sure a LASA X team of lazy freshmen could do well at HSNCT.
  2143. [2014-01-12 01:20:00] <ChunkySean> did Darwin graduate
  2144. [2014-01-12 01:20:01] <ChunkySean> ?
  2145. [2014-01-12 01:20:07] <christino> so could LASA aleph
  2146. [2014-01-12 01:20:17] <nathanweiser> Cameron's still there.
  2147. [2014-01-12 01:20:18] <lasakid> Nah, he's a senior
  2148. [2014-01-12 01:20:19] <christino> so anything else unique about corin/ethan/alex/forrest
  2149. [2014-01-12 01:20:48] <christino> what's preventing them from taking the title
  2150. [2014-01-12 01:20:48] <nathanweiser> no not really
  2151. [2014-01-12 01:20:51] <samus149> They've got real knowledge and the synergy to get really high up
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  2153. [2014-01-12 01:21:02] <samus149> Maybe just the age thing
  2154. [2014-01-12 01:21:11] <samus149> idk how much that affects anything
  2155. [2014-01-12 01:21:12] <nathanweiser> everyone who's not corin needs to study more
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  2157. [2014-01-12 01:21:44] <LaziestUsernameEver> That all?
  2158. [2014-01-12 01:21:45] <nathanweiser> but they're really good, and they're at least a top 5 team
  2159. [2014-01-12 01:21:48] <ChunkySean> were the sort of "bred" in the footsteps of the seniors?
  2160. [2014-01-12 01:21:59] <ChunkySean> or have they taken their own "path" i guess?
  2161. [2014-01-12 01:22:06] <lasakid> ?
  2162. [2014-01-12 01:22:11] <lasakid> Not really sure what you mean by that
  2163. [2014-01-12 01:22:13] <christino> i think he means "where they"
  2164. [2014-01-12 01:22:20] <christino> *were
  2165. [2014-01-12 01:22:22] <nathanweiser> not really. Corin and Ethan have always been more motivated than the upperclassmen
  2166. [2014-01-12 01:22:25] <ChunkySean> like have they followed what you guys do
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  2168. [2014-01-12 01:22:32] <ChunkySean> or done their own stuff
  2169. [2014-01-12 01:22:36] <HurrahPraga> in terms of study methods?
  2170. [2014-01-12 01:22:40] <lasakid> If they followed what we do they'd probably be a little worse :P
  2171. [2014-01-12 01:22:57] <samus149> says the #1 team
  2172. [2014-01-12 01:23:00] <ChunkySean> yea i guess
  2173. [2014-01-12 01:23:02] <christino> alright
  2174. [2014-01-12 01:23:07] <christino> i guess we should move on to st. john's
  2175. [2014-01-12 01:23:15] <HurrahPraga> carlos de guzman
  2176. [2014-01-12 01:23:15] <christino> carlo is good
  2177. [2014-01-12 01:23:22] <HurrahPraga> is there anyone else on the team?
  2178. [2014-01-12 01:23:26] <HurrahPraga> or did they graduate
  2179. [2014-01-12 01:23:29] <christino> no one
  2180. [2014-01-12 01:23:30] <lasakid> I think his teammates are going to surprise this year
  2181. [2014-01-12 01:23:31] <samus149> everybody else on the team is also good
  2182. [2014-01-12 01:23:32] <nathanweiser> claire jones is really good at history
  2183. [2014-01-12 01:23:32] <LaziestUsernameEver> I think they all returned.
  2184. [2014-01-12 01:23:34] <ceilingcat> Claire's still on
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  2186. [2014-01-12 01:23:36] <lasakid> They retained everyone from last year
  2187. [2014-01-12 01:23:39] <nathanweiser> especially european history
  2188. [2014-01-12 01:23:45] <christino> out of deven lahoti, george davies, and max huang
  2189. [2014-01-12 01:23:52] <ChunkySean> and Vinay
  2190. [2014-01-12 01:23:54] <christino> who are they gonna put as their 3rd/4th
  2191. [2014-01-12 01:23:54] <nathanweiser> Deven is getting better at science
  2192. [2014-01-12 01:23:57] <lasakid> Max Huang doesn't go to SJS
  2193. [2014-01-12 01:24:00] <nathanweiser> max huang plays for Tyler
  2194. [2014-01-12 01:24:01] <nathanweiser> in Katy
  2195. [2014-01-12 01:24:03] <lasakid> *Taylor
  2196. [2014-01-12 01:24:05] <christino> hm okay
  2197. [2014-01-12 01:24:09] <mbjackson> has st. john's played a high school tournament this year?
  2198. [2014-01-12 01:24:11] <mbjackson> will they?
  2199. [2014-01-12 01:24:14] <mbjackson> does it matter?
  2200. [2014-01-12 01:24:15] <lasakid> They played one today
  2201. [2014-01-12 01:24:21] <lasakid> They didn't have claire though
  2202. [2014-01-12 01:24:22] <mbjackson> i guess that counts then!
  2203. [2014-01-12 01:24:26] <nathanweiser> they played an IS set at St. Mark's today
  2204. [2014-01-12 01:24:37] <nathanweiser> Carlo, George and Deven I think
  2205. [2014-01-12 01:24:49] <LaziestUsernameEver> What makes St. John's better than LASA B? Are they better?
  2206. [2014-01-12 01:25:06] <mbjackson> results?
  2207. [2014-01-12 01:25:09] <nathanweiser> Well, St. Johns beat LASA B at ACF Fall
  2208. [2014-01-12 01:25:15] <HurrahPraga> that'd do it
  2209. [2014-01-12 01:25:16] <ChunkySean> What subjects does Carlos not cover?
  2210. [2014-01-12 01:25:32] <nathanweiser> Carlo is weak in history and science
  2211. [2014-01-12 01:25:49] <lasakid> But Claire and Deven are pretty good
  2212. [2014-01-12 01:25:58] <lasakid> at those subjects respectively
  2213. [2014-01-12 01:26:00] <samus149> science...
  2214. [2014-01-12 01:26:02] <nathanweiser> Claire is actually really, really good at history and british lit
  2215. [2014-01-12 01:26:16] <Dylan> carlo's insane at humanities obviously
  2216. [2014-01-12 01:26:37] <nathanweiser> this is ture
  2217. [2014-01-12 01:26:40] <nathanweiser> *true
  2218. [2014-01-12 01:26:41] <ChunkySean> what does Vinay/george cover?
  2219. [2014-01-12 01:27:02] <lasakid> vinay had some impressive ancient history buzzes at fall
  2220. [2014-01-12 01:27:03] <mbjackson> was today's st. mark's thing non-tqba?
  2221. [2014-01-12 01:27:07] <lasakid> yeah
  2222. [2014-01-12 01:27:14] <lasakid> It's on the naqt website though
  2223. [2014-01-12 01:27:44] <samus149> does having a 5 person team affect them in any way?
  2224. [2014-01-12 01:27:55] <samus149> For better or worse?
  2225. [2014-01-12 01:27:58] <nathanweiser> I think they'll narrow the team down to 4
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  2227. [2014-01-12 01:28:46] <nathanweiser> The St. Johns team will be carlo, claire, deven, and george/vinay
  2228. [2014-01-12 01:29:18] <HurrahPraga> so that texas nasat team
  2229. [2014-01-12 01:29:22] <LaziestUsernameEver> Overall weaknesses?
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  2231. [2014-01-12 01:29:39] <christino> will it involve another road trip with romero
  2232. [2014-01-12 01:29:41] <lasakid> man, they need to let b teams in nasat
  2233. [2014-01-12 01:29:42] <lasakid> sounds fun
  2234. [2014-01-12 01:29:42] <nathanweiser> science, probably, though that will change as deven improves
  2235. [2014-01-12 01:29:45] <LaziestUsernameEver> And what to people think of their ranking?
  2236. [2014-01-12 01:30:10] <HurrahPraga> seems accurate. can't think of anyone besides lasa a who beats them
  2237. [2014-01-12 01:30:19] <lasakid> they haven
  2238. [2014-01-12 01:30:25] <lasakid> they haven't played anyone but us though
  2239. [2014-01-12 01:30:31] <lasakid> to be fair, neither have we
  2240. [2014-01-12 01:30:33] <nathanweiser> I think, on a good packet, Bellarmine, Ladue, LASA B or Dorman could beat them
  2241. [2014-01-12 01:30:39] <ceilingcat> and Arcadia
  2242. [2014-01-12 01:30:39] <HurrahPraga> consistently
  2243. [2014-01-12 01:30:45] <HurrahPraga> over a large sample size
  2244. [2014-01-12 01:30:49] <HurrahPraga> basically the opposite of quizbowl
  2245. [2014-01-12 01:30:55] <lasakid> haha yeah
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  2247. [2014-01-12 01:31:14] <ceilingcat> well the large sample size is basically the opposite of any competition that isn't chess
  2248. [2014-01-12 01:31:15] <LaziestUsernameEver> Anything left on St. John's?
  2249. [2014-01-12 01:31:21] <nathanweiser> also, they did beat us at ACF Fall, without Deven
  2250. [2014-01-12 01:31:26] <LaziestUsernameEver> Or shall we move on to number 1?
  2251. [2014-01-12 01:31:28] <samus149> Can they win nats?
  2252. [2014-01-12 01:31:34] <nathanweiser> they could
  2253. [2014-01-12 01:31:40] <HurrahPraga> looks like it
  2254. [2014-01-12 01:31:50] <lasakid> very possible
  2255. [2014-01-12 01:31:51] <nathanweiser> but I've heard a rumor that they might not go to NSC
  2256. [2014-01-12 01:32:17] <LaziestUsernameEver> Aw.
  2257. [2014-01-12 01:32:20] <HurrahPraga> that would be big
  2258. [2014-01-12 01:32:58] <LaziestUsernameEver> I can't decide if a LASA A v. LASA B final would be cool, hilarious, or depressing.
  2259. [2014-01-12 01:33:02] <samus149> maybe Robert E Lee will
  2260. [2014-01-12 01:33:06] <nathanweiser> all three
  2261. [2014-01-12 01:33:23] <samus149> mostly depressing
  2262. [2014-01-12 01:33:23] <HurrahPraga> robert e lee should not have been in our bracket last year
  2263. [2014-01-12 01:33:33] <nathanweiser> Carson Davis did look pretty good last year
  2264. [2014-01-12 01:33:39] <lasakid> carson davis is a monster
  2265. [2014-01-12 01:33:56] <lasakid> yeah, two lasa teams, tj, and robert lee in 1 bracket really sucked
  2266. [2014-01-12 01:34:35] <HurrahPraga> how did that even happen
  2267. [2014-01-12 01:35:32] <samus149> can nsc place not have brackets this year
  2268. [2014-01-12 01:35:49] <samus149> card system ftw
  2269. [2014-01-12 01:35:49] <InfiniteStryker0> you want a 64 team RR?
  2270. [2014-01-12 01:35:59] <samus149> course not, this isn't CO
  2271. [2014-01-12 01:36:00] <mbjackson> 96!
  2272. [2014-01-12 01:36:07] <LaziestUsernameEver> Not a fan of power-matching.
  2273. [2014-01-12 01:36:58] <LaziestUsernameEver> So anything more on St. John's?
  2274. [2014-01-12 01:37:23] <nathanweiser> I think they'll make the HSNCT finals at least
  2275. [2014-01-12 01:37:39] <mbjackson> it might be interesting to discuss once the team previews are over
  2276. [2014-01-12 01:37:54] <mbjackson> if there are any teams with significant advantages at one of HSNCT or PACE but not the otehr
  2277. [2014-01-12 01:37:59] <samus149> Yeah it is 2:37 in the morning
  2278. [2014-01-12 01:37:59] <lasakid> It's hard to say anything before TI
  2279. [2014-01-12 01:38:25] <LaziestUsernameEver> Let's move on to LASA A now.
  2280. [2014-01-12 01:38:29] <LaziestUsernameEver> I'm tired.
  2281. [2014-01-12 01:38:32] <samus149> LASA A is good
  2282. [2014-01-12 01:38:41] <LaziestUsernameEver> They get tossups a lot.
  2283. [2014-01-12 01:38:50] <samus149> Bonuses too
  2284. [2014-01-12 01:39:00] <LaziestUsernameEver> They also tend to win.
  2285. [2014-01-12 01:39:14] <samus149> They'll probably win more this year
  2286. [2014-01-12 01:39:45] <LaziestUsernameEver> Who does what subject on this team?
  2287. [2014-01-12 01:40:07] <nathanweiser> its all kind of murky
  2288. [2014-01-12 01:40:26] <lasakid> I guess Nathan and Ben do history
  2289. [2014-01-12 01:40:35] <lasakid> Nathan and Freed do Lit
  2290. [2014-01-12 01:40:42] <lasakid> Ben and Freed and I do Science
  2291. [2014-01-12 01:40:48] <LaziestUsernameEver> What.
  2292. [2014-01-12 01:40:51] <lasakid> No idea
  2293. [2014-01-12 01:40:57] <nathanweiser> Arnav does visual FA and I do auditory FA
  2294. [2014-01-12 01:41:16] <lasakid> Ben and I split religion somehow
  2295. [2014-01-12 01:41:54] <nathanweiser> Arnav knows RMP, myth
  2296. [2014-01-12 01:42:15] <lasakid> I feel like we wrote this out at some point and promptly lost it
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  2298. [2014-01-12 01:42:25] <nathanweiser> it's all poorly defined
  2299. [2014-01-12 01:42:38] <nathanweiser> but it also seems to work
  2300. [2014-01-12 01:42:46] <samus149> good to know that LASA A just does whatever and is #1
  2301. [2014-01-12 01:43:01] <LaziestUsernameEver> So you guys just ... know stuff, and as a result are the best team in the nation.
  2302. [2014-01-12 01:43:02] <LaziestUsernameEver> OK.
  2303. [2014-01-12 01:43:06] <InfiniteStryker0> yeah strictly defining domains never works
  2304. [2014-01-12 01:43:10] <InfiniteStryker0> its way more organic than that
  2305. [2014-01-12 01:43:16] <lasakid> ^
  2306. [2014-01-12 01:43:19] <nathanweiser> well, we study the things that we like
  2307. [2014-01-12 01:43:24] <lasakid> We all have our weird pockets of interest
  2308. [2014-01-12 01:43:32] <LaziestUsernameEver> Hm, never thought of it that way.
  2309. [2014-01-12 01:43:33] <samus149> That seems to work for most teams actually
  2310. [2014-01-12 01:43:34] <lasakid> And then we just cover the gaps as they manifest themselves
  2311. [2014-01-12 01:43:42] <nathanweiser> and Ben and I both like history, but he likes dumb foreign stuff and I like cool American stuff, so it works
  2312. [2014-01-12 01:43:54] <mbjackson> all seniors?
  2313. [2014-01-12 01:43:54] <InfiniteStryker0> like even when my ex-teammate was probably one of the best phil players in the country, i had some random pockets of phil I knew and he knew I knew, etc, etc
  2314. [2014-01-12 01:43:59] <LaziestUsernameEver> Well yeah, but I've never really seen it like this.
  2315. [2014-01-12 01:44:02] <lasakid> 4 seniors
  2316. [2014-01-12 01:44:26] <nathanweiser> we don't study as much as we should
  2317. [2014-01-12 01:44:40] <lasakid> we're making a drive to change that this semester
  2318. [2014-01-12 01:44:43] <nathanweiser> but now that college apps are winding down, that should change
  2319. [2014-01-12 01:44:55] <samus149> I think that's true of most A teams
  2320. [2014-01-12 01:45:13] <samus149> Not a lot of change in the beginning of the year
  2321. [2014-01-12 01:45:23] <HurrahPraga> then college apps get in the way
  2322. [2014-01-12 01:45:36] <samus149> ctrl-c ctrl-v ctrl-s
  2323. [2014-01-12 01:45:48] <nathanweiser> if we have a weakness, it's science
  2324. [2014-01-12 01:46:09] <LaziestUsernameEver> That's been a thing for, like, everyone.
  2325. [2014-01-12 01:46:21] <christino> the hard sciences suck
  2326. [2014-01-12 01:46:24] <HurrahPraga> why does everyone have a science weakness
  2327. [2014-01-12 01:46:26] <christino> the soft sciences are good
  2328. [2014-01-12 01:46:29] <samus149> are LASA B and HT the only schools with science players?
  2329. [2014-01-12 01:46:30] <nathanweiser> not LASA B!
  2330. [2014-01-12 01:46:30] <InfiniteStryker0> aren't you from lasa
  2331. [2014-01-12 01:46:34] <HurrahPraga> sean, go ham
  2332. [2014-01-12 01:46:38] <InfiniteStryker0> doesn't allan sadun have a successor
  2333. [2014-01-12 01:46:39] <ceilingcat> does this LASA A team have upside/downside that last year's LASA team doesn't?
  2334. [2014-01-12 01:46:40] <samus149> HARD SCIENCE
  2335. [2014-01-12 01:46:46] <HurrahPraga> that one guy from st. johns
  2336. [2014-01-12 01:46:52] <lasakid> deven, corin, sean
  2337. [2014-01-12 01:47:02] <samus149> good job america
  2338. [2014-01-12 01:47:10] <HurrahPraga> this is why we're #1
  2339. [2014-01-12 01:47:12] <nathanweiser> We don't have an Allan Sadun who can lock down the science category
  2340. [2014-01-12 01:47:13] <HurrahPraga> freedom
  2341. [2014-01-12 01:47:23] <lasakid> we're so spread out, it's hard to say where we stand compared to others
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  2343. [2014-01-12 01:47:35] <HurrahPraga> true, losing allan hurt. but you seem to have compensated
  2344. [2014-01-12 01:47:39] <ceilingcat> Allan told me he really only locked down physics and math
  2345. [2014-01-12 01:47:47] <ceilingcat> he was that type of player
  2346. [2014-01-12 01:47:52] <nathanweiser> allan says a lot of things
  2347. [2014-01-12 01:47:52] <samus149> I talked to him once
  2348. [2014-01-12 01:48:00] <samus149> He did everything
  2349. [2014-01-12 01:48:01] <lasakid> allan is a really modest person
  2350. [2014-01-12 01:48:08] <samus149> He was just god at physics and math
  2351. [2014-01-12 01:48:18] <samus149> Demigod at everything else
  2352. [2014-01-12 01:48:21] <nathanweiser> he was also really good at CE and general NAQT shenanigans, so we lose that
  2353. [2014-01-12 01:48:22] <LaziestUsernameEver> I talked with Allan and he struck me as a sort of ... odd.
  2354. [2014-01-12 01:48:31] <samus149> He was very odd
  2355. [2014-01-12 01:48:36] <samus149> I liked him immediately
  2356. [2014-01-12 01:48:46] <christino> what's that game he played with me
  2357. [2014-01-12 01:48:52] <christino> with the colored dots on the cards
  2358. [2014-01-12 01:48:53] <nathanweiser> and Arthur Lee could lock down classical music usually, and I can't do that
  2359. [2014-01-12 01:48:55] <Dylan> allan definitely struck me as the likable type of odd
  2360. [2014-01-12 01:48:58] <lasakid> ProSet!
  2361. [2014-01-12 01:49:02] <christino> ah that's right
  2362. [2014-01-12 01:49:04] <InfiniteStryker0> Set's great
  2363. [2014-01-12 01:49:14] <lasakid> Man, we haven't played that since he left
  2364. [2014-01-12 01:49:16] <InfiniteStryker0> it's a math contest thing
  2365. [2014-01-12 01:49:19] <lasakid> http://proset.herokuapp.com/
  2366. [2014-01-12 01:49:23] <lasakid> Looks like the app's still up though
  2367. [2014-01-12 01:49:29] <InfiniteStryker0> everyone who does olympiad stuff loves it for some reason
  2368. [2014-01-12 01:49:35] <nathanweiser> if we have anything going for us, it's that we practice a lot
  2369. [2014-01-12 01:49:48] <nathanweiser> well, "practice", but still, we play a lot of quiz bowl
  2370. [2014-01-12 01:49:53] <samus149> and your coach is awesome incarnate
  2371. [2014-01-12 01:50:06] <mbjackson> flow wow
  2372. [2014-01-12 01:50:10] <nathanweiser> and we get to play top teams (LASA B, St. Johns, Harmony North Austin) frequently
  2373. [2014-01-12 01:50:26] <nathanweiser> Mr. Flowers is the James Carville of high school quiz bowl
  2374. [2014-01-12 01:50:38] <lasakid> good ol' southern boy
  2375. [2014-01-12 01:50:45] <nathanweiser> i.e he's a cynical balding cajun
  2376. [2014-01-12 01:50:54] <ceilingcat> Fleitas is also a cajun
  2377. [2014-01-12 01:51:03] <ceilingcat> though I'm not sure about the cynical or balding
  2378. [2014-01-12 01:51:15] <lasakid> haha
  2379. [2014-01-12 01:51:18] <LaziestUsernameEver> So to be a top tier team you need 1. a scooter and 2. a Cajun coach?
  2380. [2014-01-12 01:51:51] <lasakid> the scooter has to be pretty dilapidated
  2381. [2014-01-12 01:51:52] <nathanweiser> 3. an hour long lunch to practice during
  2382. [2014-01-12 01:51:55] <samus149> Pretty sure the scooter thing was in Family Guy at some point
  2383. [2014-01-12 01:51:56] <christino> i don't believe julie gittings was cajun
  2384. [2014-01-12 01:52:00] <ceilingcat> well Bell A 2012 didn't have scooters, but all 3 of us were arachnophobes
  2385. [2014-01-12 01:52:17] <christino> also i'm never going near a scooter after i broke my arm riding one the day before my 10th birthday
  2386. [2014-01-12 01:52:18] <HurrahPraga> so you need a paralyzing fear of spiders?
  2387. [2014-01-12 01:52:25] <nathanweiser> birds
  2388. [2014-01-12 01:52:32] <ceilingcat> if you want to unnerve Sameer before a game
  2389. [2014-01-12 01:52:38] <ceilingcat> just show him a picture of a spider
  2390. [2014-01-12 01:52:43] <ceilingcat> you'll win
  2391. [2014-01-12 01:52:52] <HurrahPraga> really? someone test this
  2392. [2014-01-12 01:52:53] <samus149> I am actually going to bring one to HSNCT now
  2393. [2014-01-12 01:52:58] <christino> toss up maman or louis bourgieous
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  2395. [2014-01-12 01:53:12] <ceilingcat> dude we actually visited the guggenheim bilbao
  2396. [2014-01-12 01:53:14] <ceilingcat> together
  2397. [2014-01-12 01:53:19] <LaziestUsernameEver> Will wearing spider masks work, too?
  2398. [2014-01-12 01:53:22] <ceilingcat> with that bourgieois sculpture
  2399. [2014-01-12 01:53:29] <christino> what if i wear a spiderman suit
  2400. [2014-01-12 01:53:30] <ceilingcat> and when he saw it he freaked out
  2401. [2014-01-12 01:53:38] <christino> to hsnct
  2402. [2014-01-12 01:53:44] <christino> while wearing that coonskin cap
  2403. [2014-01-12 01:53:55] <HurrahPraga> only one way to find out
  2404. [2014-01-12 01:54:01] <nathanweiser> okay, that's pretty much everything about LASA A
  2405. [2014-01-12 01:54:10] <christino> okay
  2406. [2014-01-12 01:54:11] <samus149> so now nationals talk?
  2407. [2014-01-12 01:54:13] <HurrahPraga> in summary: scooters and cajuns
  2408. [2014-01-12 01:54:17] <nathanweiser> sleep
  2409. [2014-01-12 01:54:17] <christino> yeah
  2410. [2014-01-12 01:54:21] <lasakid> to cajuns!
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  2412. [2014-01-12 01:54:22] <christino> well for some people
  2413. [2014-01-12 01:54:30] <samus149> you guys are 2 hours behind!
  2414. [2014-01-12 01:54:34] <LaziestUsernameEver> Yeah, it's almost 3 on the east coast.
  2415. [2014-01-12 01:54:34] <lasakid> only 1
  2416. [2014-01-12 01:54:35] <christino> 1 hour
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  2418. [2014-01-12 01:54:37] <Golden_Kumquat> Finals Round 2 of HSNCT inexplicably features a bio tossup on spiders, a trash tossup on Spiderman, a history tossup on the Spider King, and a sports bonus on the Cleveland Spiders
  2419. [2014-01-12 01:54:54] <christino> don't forget the NAQT random tossup on the spyder
  2420. [2014-01-12 01:55:10] <Dylan> throw in a tossup on louis the spider king
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  2423. [2014-01-12 01:55:26] <christino> and a YA lit tossup on charlotte's web
  2424. [2014-01-12 01:55:34] <LaziestUsernameEver> Well, I guess I can stay up as long as AGDQ is still going on.
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  2426. [2014-01-12 01:55:42] <HurrahPraga> they'd better not have YA in HSNCT finals
  2427. [2014-01-12 01:55:52] <LaziestUsernameEver> Oh god YA.
  2428. [2014-01-12 01:55:56] <lasakid> no >.>
  2429. [2014-01-12 01:55:57] <christino> they're going to toss up enid blyton and sameer is going to win
  2430. [2014-01-12 01:55:58] <InfiniteStryker0> AGDQ?
  2431. [2014-01-12 01:56:00] <samus149> nooooooooooo
  2432. [2014-01-12 01:56:06] <InfiniteStryker0> the speedrunning cancer charity thing?
  2433. [2014-01-12 01:56:08] <LaziestUsernameEver> Awesome Games Done Quick.
  2434. [2014-01-12 01:56:15] <HurrahPraga> does anyone actually like YA
  2435. [2014-01-12 01:56:15] <LaziestUsernameEver> Yeah, they're doing Chrono Trigger right now.
  2436. [2014-01-12 01:56:15] <lasakid> yeah
  2437. [2014-01-12 01:56:16] <InfiniteStryker0> what game are they doing?
  2438. [2014-01-12 01:56:19] <InfiniteStryker0> !!!!!!
  2439. [2014-01-12 01:56:23] <InfiniteStryker0> link please
  2440. [2014-01-12 01:56:24] <samus149> inb4 john green book tossups
  2441. [2014-01-12 01:56:28] <lasakid> http://gamesdonequick.com/
  2442. [2014-01-12 01:56:28] <LaziestUsernameEver> 6+ hour estimate, lol.
  2443. [2014-01-12 01:56:32] <LaziestUsernameEver> http://www.twitch.tv/speeddemosarchivesda
  2444. [2014-01-12 01:56:44] <LaziestUsernameEver> They did Punch Out blindfolded. It was amazing.
  2445. [2014-01-12 01:56:52] <LaziestUsernameEver> Today is the last day, though.
  2446. [2014-01-12 01:57:10] <InfiniteStryker0> oh they're doing sidequests too
  2447. [2014-01-12 01:57:14] <InfiniteStryker0> fun
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