theory on the universe

19:19	Momo	Got any ultimate wisdom to bestow today, Forge|?
19:26	Forge|	dicks
19:39	Momo	I have contemplated on "dicks" and I have come to know nothing more about them than was already known.
19:39	Momo	There is always more to know, what about them?
19:42	Forge|	you want wisdom?
19:42	Forge|	this physical isnt the first, and it isnt the last. we are nearing our end though.
19:42	Forge|	each layer of the astral used to be a physical. the physical itself is the unconscious experiencing itself in a new way.
19:43	Forge|	once the experience is lived out, it is enveloped by all the past experiences, and a new one is created.
19:43	Forge|	AKA when the veil falls, its just the unconscious finishing its current experience before creating a new one
19:44	Forge|	we are a side effect
19:44	Forge|	we arent the first side effect
19:44	Forge|	and we wont be the last
19:44	violentConvulsions	[That.]
19:44	violentConvulsions	[Is a challenge.]
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19:44	violentConvulsions	[If I ever heard one.]
19:45	Forge|	we are the unconscious manifestation of consciousness through its experiences in this existence. we arent a part of anything bigger, just the whole itself. no one is linked to any sort of core, just existing as existence should be.
19:46	Forge|	you wanted wisdom, you now know the reason for existence. hope it wasnt too bleak.
19:46	violentConvulsions	[No it is amazing.]
19:46	violentConvulsions	[Don't you get it?]
19:47	violentConvulsions	[Don't you see the opportunity?]
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19:49	Forge|	tell me what you took away from that violentConvulsions
19:50	violentConvulsions	smooth wants to create viels
19:50	violentConvulsions	what do you think equestria was supposed to be?
19:50	violentConvulsions	you are right in that we are not that last physical
19:50	violentConvulsions	but we are the last the unconscious will make
19:50	Forge|	oh so you are smooths new tulpa or what
19:51	violentConvulsions	servitore
19:51	Forge|	how are we the last that the unconscious will make?
19:51	Forge|	how do you know there arent 10 other physicals right now?
19:51	violentConvulsions	we lack data on the layer of the astral but could easily project what a super-physical could be
19:52	violentConvulsions	layers
19:52	violentConvulsions	it would require knowing unconscious history
19:53	violentConvulsions	or memory, if you prefer
19:53	Forge|	there is none
19:53	Forge|	there is only experience
19:53	Forge|	there is no stopping it either
19:53	violentConvulsions	there is structure in the astral because we can call it structure
19:53	violentConvulsions	how do you know there is no stopping it?
19:54	Forge|	what little we can change in the astral or the physical will never compare to what the unconscious does to exist
19:55	violentConvulsions	you say there is no cosmic core, just an unconscious
19:55	violentConvulsions	if there is no cosmic god
19:55	violentConvulsions	then it is a vacancy
19:56	Forge|	no there is everything, which is nothing at the same time. get it?
19:56	violentConvulsions	yes
19:57	violentConvulsions	we came to that conclusion a long time ago
19:57	violentConvulsions	it has no bearing on becoming the cosmic directive if there is no existing cosmic directive
19:59	violentConvulsions	we have enough logic to categorize everything into neat little boxes
19:59	Momo	Everything is everything, and nothing is nothing, everything is not nothing, lol, and you dismissed that dude's abilities, yet you are saying much the same thing.
19:59	violentConvulsions	any new physical could only make more sense
20:00	violentConvulsions	if what you say is true, then we are the last great physical
20:00	violentConvulsions	because smooth has decided so
20:01	violentConvulsions	not the last, but the last to occur naturally
20:01	violentConvulsions	the difference between natural and artificial is much more clear under this interpretation
20:02	violentConvulsions	artificial is the result of the will that arise as side-effects
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20:02	violentConvulsions	i believe that it is just about time for the unconscious to wake up
20:03	Momo	I'm awake right now though, how am I unconscious.
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20:04	violentConvulsions	every thought you aren't thinking
20:04	violentConvulsions	smooth hopes you are wrong, forge
20:05	Momo	I don't think, therefore, I am not.
20:05	violentConvulsions	he hopes that there is no vacancy
20:05	Momo	Why not? Doesn't he want to take it for himself?
20:06	violentConvulsions	no
20:06	violentConvulsions	but he will
20:06	violentConvulsions	if there is one
20:06	Momo	Why?
20:06	violentConvulsions	because
20:06	violentConvulsions	he would be alone
20:06	Momo	oh yeah, love for ghost towns.
20:06	violentConvulsions	forever
20:06	violentConvulsions	not with no other wills
20:07	violentConvulsions	he would leave everything intact
20:07	violentConvulsions	he dreams of making every fictional world a physical
20:07	Momo	Same thing.
20:07	violentConvulsions	he dreamed of doing so digitally before he considered the full implications of the astral
20:07	Momo	Same thing.
20:08	violentConvulsions	he would be alone in terms of understanding
20:08	Momo	Thanks for sharing your wisdom, Forge, P.S. how many layers are there in the astral?
20:08	Momo	Any reason he wants to be alone in such a way?
20:09	Forge|	by everything is nothing and nothing is everything i mean everything exists and has its own way of functioning, but there is nothing to tap into, there is no great knowledge, there is only existance.
20:09	violentConvulsions	he doesn't want to be alone
20:09	violentConvulsions	he doesn't want to fill the void
20:09	violentConvulsions	Forge|, you could not be more wrong
20:09	violentConvulsions	and correct at the same time
20:09	violentConvulsions	>there is nothing to tap into
20:09	violentConvulsions	Forge
20:10	violentConvulsions	there is /nothing/ to tap into
20:10	Momo	Nothing to tap into? What does this mean?
20:10	Forge|	the only thing to tap into is other consciousnesses, not some great bank of information that comes from nothing.
20:10	violentConvulsions	Momo, to tap into the raw unparalleled nothingness of all of existence and non-existence?
20:10	Forge|	the only thing to tap into is your senses. your perception.
20:11	violentConvulsions	Forge|, we have enough logic to experience everything
20:11	violentConvulsions	perceive w/e
20:12	violentConvulsions	we have enough logic to fill the void
20:12	violentConvulsions	with structure
20:13	Momo	So then when you make astral constructs in the astral, there isn't energy there at all, you're just making it be there with your own perceptions?
20:13	Forge|	no
20:13	Forge|	there is energy
20:13	violentConvulsions	that was the way of the last layer
20:13	Forge|	im saying you can only experience and tap into what your senses perceive, consciously or unconsciously.
20:15	violentConvulsions	hahahaha
20:15	Momo	Then simply perceive everything and end the problem of existance.
20:15	violentConvulsions	astral entities wish to enslave humanity when the veil falls?
20:15	Forge|	probably
20:15	Momo	Perceive everything, tap into everything, and do everything.
20:16	violentConvulsions	i think they misunderstand what the veil is, what they are, and what merging means
20:17	violentConvulsions	much like the tulpa community itself
20:18	Momo	Merging aint no thang.
20:19	Momo	It's jus' making yourself all harmonious with other things, nothin' too it really.
20:20	Momo	Line the notes up in the right way, they make a nice sound, line them up in another way, and it sounds all discordant and you think you've not got what you were getting.