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- Since 19:00
- - false dichotomy of us not wanting individual rights
- - politics is abstract violence because the state imposes the verdict on the loser
- - if people dont respect the law, it wont be enforced. And people influence institutions (cruel fate of kekistan)
- - Vee is scared, Woes is saying you're paranoid. And you have had a civil war. Uh...
- - you are saying it is wrong for whites to advocate for themselves when you cry about collectivism or whatever. Your specific criticism is in fact anti-white, you wont do shit about other identitarian groups (and it is on you to prove otherwise isnt it? Your system depends on it)
- - The list of 200 antifa arrested had a disproportionate number of non-whites and Jews. And Henrik Palmgren said the whites he looked into were weird and obviously broken.
- - Somalia is not a lesson against might makes right, it is an argument against how Somalians act on these impulses
- *- Mighty people get more benefit of the doubt, so questions of them obviously and clearly doing something wrong misses the point.
- *- US is most individualistic... yet we're riven by group interests. Kind of our argument, it is a superficial illusion
- *- If Sargon doesnt want to argue feelings, debate AltHype or Enoch
- - appealing to the slums you've seen opens yourself up to the point that Swindon is pretty white, and that therefore you're naive
- *- We wuz kangs isnt ancestor worship but ancestor lies, white people do achieve. Asians do ancestor worship, not blacks
- *- We know of high IQ groups which exploit the majority. People for organic communities around race more than IQ. Also cognitive diversity is good. Smart people arent soldiers for instance.
- *- if we are to be subjected to the race's faults... then yea we are taking credit for accomplishments which were done for their progeny. Distributist said this, Sargon didnt disagree. Humans are genes in environment, most isnt your doing. Lack of free will makes you a complex rock which has no say it its own accomplishments, ie individual identity is not more valid. And connection to environment is good, the past and present by having organic high trust
- - yes, some level of loyalty is needed to belong to the group. Antifa is openly anti-white. Edge cases dont define a conversation.
- from 30:00
- - you're arguing with radicals before arguing with moderates, duh.
- *- he asked that (what the altright argument is) because we dont think you actually know. I know Vee doesnt know but claims to. You dont even know about Paul Gottfried
- *- he meant lived experiences in the sense that your theory of how the state works is insufficient
- - she said he "most certainly has jewish roots" or something.
- - from what I understand, there are more personal reasons for RamzPaul's situation
- *- the biggest problem with SJWs IS the groups they put first. Someone will have more clout in multiracialism, it isnt just because of le bad ideology... Inevitable. Group politics is rewarded
- - Tyranny of the majority is not wanting to be dispossessed
- - again, Spencer spoke of authority and censorship in the context of an inevitable circumstance or inevitable in general (like an aristocracy)
- - 39:45 We have to liberal more
- - MouthyBuddha's poll is better... Styx won
- - Sargon never asked a loaded question /s. A lot of his questions were trying to surmise standards and limits he could say would be forced or overly generalized.
- - You care Sargon. You made this
- - SJWs do not actually believe in race. But I guess both sides do have standards and need good character (the altright's standard is just historically normal: temperance and law-abidedness in action and demeanor)
- - race isnt just skin, nigga
- *- collectivm leads to tyranny but only collectivism beats another collective. Assuming we will create tyranny (which I dont agree with), we arent being tyrannized by a group without organic attachment and with racial hatred
- *- they make an argument against all social standards and stigma with the burka thing, and their general argument that having ideals and standards means they will be forced. Very left-libertarian: judgement interferes with freedom
- - Did Spencer say whites dont like football? He certainly didnt say he'd censor football like Vee says
- - they are loaded questions, you even said you should know... and the comments clearly arent enough if you uncharitably interpret them (which you did)
- - the altright is white lives matter, except thinks Jews are smarter and can source their issues beyond mere disparity
- - when it is the ADL, names are irrelevant. Dumbass
- - Burke's reflections on the revolution in France > Paine
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