Killing Trick

Monday, July 29, 2013
12:02 AM - Mr. Lightning Bolt: http://cloud-2.steampowered.com/ugc/921269392901634514/E52D6DCA595B405325EE74BA039B718B8F27EE5C/
12:08 AM - BackstaB, The Sexy Stallion: hahahaha
12:08 AM - BackstaB, The Sexy Stallion: erry time
12:08 AM - Mr. Lightning Bolt: Watchu laughin at?
12:08 AM - Mutagene: >tfw I don't get the appeal of ceiling murder
12:08 AM - BackstaB, The Sexy Stallion: 12:02 AM - Mr. Lightning Bolt: http://cloud-2.steampowered.com/ugc/921269392901634514/E52D6DCA595B405325EE74BA039B718B8F27EE5C/
12:09 AM - Mr. Lightning Bolt: "I don't understand why people subjectively like a game."
12:09 AM - Mutagene: if anyone wants a beret, there's an alert for it up
12:09 AM - Mutagene: nah
12:09 AM - Mr. Lightning Bolt: "Time to passively-aggressively bitch about it XDDD"
12:09 AM - FIST left chat.
12:09 AM - Mutagene: I don't care if people like it
12:09 AM - BackstaB, The Sexy Stallion: Just did the Gambit helm alert.
12:09 AM - Mutagene: I just can't play it for more than like
12:09 AM - Mutagene: 15 minutes
12:09 AM - Mutagene: because it's so bland
12:09 AM - Mr. Lightning Bolt: But it's not
12:09 AM - Mutagene: then again I can't play FPS much at all
12:10 AM - Mutagene: also KF is so fucking grindy holy shit
12:10 AM - Mr. Lightning Bolt: If you really want to go into that subjective shit, Killing Floor is easily one of the most unique shooters today
12:10 AM - Mr. Lightning Bolt: It's not grindy at all, just learn how to play the fucking game
12:10 AM - Mr. Lightning Bolt: If you didn't die on wave 3 every game then you wouldn't need to fucking grind your class
12:10 AM - Mutagene: >5.5m damage with shotguns to get ONE level
12:10 AM - Mr. Lightning Bolt: That's like
12:10 AM - Mutagene: but I don't die on wave 3 every game?
12:10 AM - Mr. Lightning Bolt: 5 full games on hard/suicidal
12:10 AM - Mr. Lightning Bolt: No joke
12:11 AM - BackstaB, The Sexy Stallion: I die on wave 1.  n.n
12:11 AM - Mr. Lightning Bolt: Also, it's not 5.5m for one level. 5.5m damage is what it takes to get to level 6.
12:11 AM - Mr. Lightning Bolt: If you're going to bitch about stupid shit you could at least use actual facts
12:11 AM - Mutagene: gee I'm sorry I haven't played it in a year and a half
12:11 AM - Mutagene: actually it's been longer than that
12:12 AM - Mr. Lightning Bolt: Gee I'm sorry you're full-on lying and using hyperboles in your argument
12:12 AM - Mutagene: I remember playing it in like
12:12 AM - Mutagene: 2010
12:12 AM - Mutagene: how am I lying
12:12 AM - Mutagene: I'm recounting my experiences with it
12:12 AM - Mr. Lightning Bolt: "Waaaa why is this game actually challenging"
12:12 AM - Mutagene: >challenging
12:12 AM - Mr. Lightning Bolt: "I want to go home and play Dynasty Warriors :((("
12:12 AM - Mutagene: yeah, claustrophobic maps are so challenging
12:12 AM - Mr. Lightning Bolt: Actually, a lot of the maps are quite open
12:12 AM - Mr. Lightning Bolt: Very open, actually
12:12 AM - Mutagene: I remember 2
12:12 AM - Mr. Lightning Bolt: Would you like me to hold your hand on farm?
12:13 AM - Mutagene: farm is boring as fuck though
12:13 AM - BackstaB, The Sexy Stallion: Yes. c:
12:13 AM - Mr. Lightning Bolt: Well you complained about maps being too closed
12:13 AM - Mr. Lightning Bolt: Did you suddenly change your mind?
12:13 AM - Mutagene: there's being open and there's being barren
12:13 AM - Mr. Lightning Bolt: Alright then
12:13 AM - Mutagene: I just want enough room to walk
12:13 AM - Mr. Lightning Bolt: We'll play on West London
12:13 AM - Mutagene: west london is tiny
12:13 AM - Mr. Lightning Bolt: That there is a very open map, specifically geared towards people that don't know how to play the game
12:14 AM - Mutagene: I liked the map in the forest with the creek and shit
12:14 AM - Mr. Lightning Bolt: That's Wyre
12:14 AM - Mr. Lightning Bolt: Don't play on Wyre, you'll get your ass pounded in as it's one of the hardest maps in the game
12:14 AM - Mutagene: joke's on you, I did the best on it
12:14 AM - Super Duper High School STALKER disconnected.
12:14 AM - Mutagene: that and the office building
12:14 AM - Mr. Lightning Bolt: You actually managed to get to wave 7 and see a fleshpound?
12:14 AM - Mr. Lightning Bolt: Nice job
12:14 AM - Mutagene: yes
12:15 AM - Mutagene: I've done several full games on wyre and the office building
12:15 AM - Mutagene: normal/hard
12:16 AM - Mutagene: I remember playing a Doom 2 MAP01 custom map, that was more fun than any of the vanilla maps
12:16 AM - Mr. Lightning Bolt: >he actually enjoyed the doom map
12:16 AM - Mr. Lightning Bolt: Holy shit
12:16 AM - Mr. Lightning Bolt: You're like a walking joke
12:16 AM - Super Duper High School STALKER entered chat.
12:16 AM - Mutagene: >stop liking what I don't like
12:17 AM - Mr. Lightning Bolt: I honestly bet you use the pyro skin and play as a support specialist with offperk weapons
12:17 AM - Mutagene: I played support with supershotgun only
12:17 AM - Mr. Lightning Bolt: Super what now?
12:17 AM - Kannibal entered chat.
12:17 AM - Mutagene: the double-barreled thing
12:17 AM - Mr. Lightning Bolt: >the double barreled thing
12:17 AM - Mutagene: that cremates crowds
12:17 AM - Mr. Lightning Bolt: >what is a double-barreled shotgun
12:18 AM - Mutagene: hallways are a fucking joke with it
12:18 AM - Mutagene: although usually when I was on a team I was relegated to welding
12:19 AM - Mutagene: I can't stand playing offensive classes in class-based shooters
12:19 AM - Mutagene: but I like shotguns so
12:19 AM - Kannibal: i wonder if 16GB of RAM will be enough to rape New Vegas with every single mod I've archived on my external HDD
12:19 AM - Mutagene: it won't
12:19 AM - Mutagene: game still crashes like a motherfucker
12:20 AM - Kannibal: I just want smooth gameplay
12:20 AM - Mutagene: you still won't get it
12:20 AM - Mr. Lightning Bolt: I'm pretty sure that the only class in KF that's actually offensive is Berserker
12:20 AM - BackstaB, The Sexy Stallion: you barely get that with vanilla.
12:20 AM - BackstaB, The Sexy Stallion: Sadly.
12:20 AM - Kannibal: fuck it pushing my order to 32GB
12:20 AM - Mr. Lightning Bolt: Everything else is built with defending in mind, mostly
12:21 AM - Mr. Lightning Bolt: Commandos are offensive as well
12:21 AM - Mutagene: commando and sharpshooter were pretty boring
12:21 AM - Mutagene: maybe I should just start playing again and work on medic
12:21 AM - Mr. Lightning Bolt: Medic is pure support and sharpshooter is mostly support
12:22 AM - Mr. Lightning Bolt: >sound at 50%
12:22 AM - Mr. Lightning Bolt: >suddenly spanish guitar
12:22 AM - Mr. Lightning Bolt: >TIME TO LEAVE THEM ALL BEHIND
12:22 AM - Mr. Lightning Bolt: >NIGGA PUSH THAT SHIT TO THE MAX
12:23 AM - Mr. Lightning Bolt: HEAR ME HOOOOOOOOWLLLL
12:24 AM - Mr. Lightning Bolt: Noh enoff douche 4 dat wun hun
12:26 AM - Mr. Lightning Bolt: Also
12:27 AM - Mr. Lightning Bolt: >sharpshooter and commando are boring
12:27 AM - Mr. Lightning Bolt: You are legit Hubs tier right now
12:27 AM - Mr. Lightning Bolt: None of the classes are boring, you're just playing them wrong
12:27 AM - BackstaB, The Sexy Stallion: All comes down to opinons though.
12:27 AM - Mutagene: or maybe I just don't like playing offense-oriented classes
12:27 AM - Jermatoo: http://images.4chan.org/vg/src/1375082774067.jpg
12:27 AM - Mr. Lightning Bolt: No it doens't Backstab
12:27 AM - Mutagene: >my opinion is objective fact
12:27 AM - Mr. Lightning Bolt: Sharpshooter is not offense oriented
12:28 AM - Mutagene: what else can he do
12:28 AM - BackstaB, The Sexy Stallion: Mhmm. Its just a matter of, I find them boring, therefore I dont like them.
12:28 AM - Mr. Lightning Bolt: It's mostly utility
12:28 AM - BackstaB, The Sexy Stallion: That doesnt mean their bad, just that I dont like them.
12:28 AM - Mr. Lightning Bolt: Killing strong zeds from range
12:28 AM - Mutagene: I never said they're bad, by the way
12:28 AM - Mutagene: that's still offense
12:29 AM - Mr. Lightning Bolt: No it isn't
12:29 AM - Mr. Lightning Bolt: They're specialists first and foremosts
12:29 AM - Mr. Lightning Bolt: *foremost
12:29 AM - Mutagene: but they do nothing but kill
12:29 AM - Mr. Lightning Bolt: They can also take a trash-clearing, offensive role but other classes do it better
12:30 AM - Mr. Lightning Bolt: >this class kills things in a game centred around killing
12:30 AM - Mr. Lightning Bolt: >that means it's centered on offense
12:30 AM - Mr. Lightning Bolt: Durr
12:30 AM - Jermatoo: Sharpshooter can be offensive if you use pistols.
12:30 AM - Mutagene: >this game centered around killing has classes that can do things besides killing to benefit the team
12:31 AM - Jermatoo: Thats what I do anyways
12:31 AM - Mutagene: Hurr
12:31 AM - Mr. Lightning Bolt: >strawmen, hyperboles and fallacies
12:31 AM - Mr. Lightning Bolt: Lel
12:31 AM - Mr. Lightning Bolt: Lelelel
12:31 AM - Mutagene: so you're denying the existence of medic and support
12:31 AM - Mr. Lightning Bolt: >using fallacies to back up how little experience you have with the game
12:31 AM - Mr. Lightning Bolt: Nice :^)
12:32 AM - Mutagene: you're still ignoring the fact that I enjoyed the game when playing support
12:33 AM - Mr. Lightning Bolt: How much or how little you enjoyed the game has nothing to do with it
12:33 AM - Mr. Lightning Bolt: You seem to think this is about opinions, when it's fucking isn't
12:34 AM - Mutagene: this is about you getting pissy because someone else isn't exactly like you
12:34 AM - Jermatoo: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VWi-qzBFrsA
12:34 AM - Mr. Lightning Bolt: You do not seem to know the difference between a fact and an opinion although you systematically accuse me of the same thing
12:34 AM - Jermatoo: Damn this actually looks fun.
12:34 AM - World Marshal Security Officer entered chat.
12:34 AM - World Marshal Security Officer: >boss fight thread
12:34 AM - Mr. Lightning Bolt: No it isn't, you mongoloid, it's about me putting up an actual argument when someone is talking about things they know very little about
12:34 AM - World Marshal Security Officer: >some faggot always bring up WoW
12:34 AM - Jermatoo is now playing Killing Floor. Click here to join.
12:34 AM - World Marshal Security Officer: : ))))))))))
12:34 AM - Mutagene: your argument is that you had more enjoyment from the game than I did
12:34 AM - Mr. Lightning Bolt: No it isn't
12:35 AM - Mr. Lightning Bolt: You legitimately know so little about the game that you think that a class is offensive because its role is to kill things
12:35 AM - Mr. Lightning Bolt: And you refuse to acknowledge your lack of experience, despite the fact that you yourself admitted to not being good at the game
12:35 AM - Mutagene: and you're so defensive that you misinterpret what I say to reinforce your own views
12:36 AM - Mr. Lightning Bolt: Alright then
12:36 AM - Mr. Lightning Bolt: What did you say?
12:36 AM - Mutagene: offense-oriented = no ability to directly support other players
12:36 AM - Mutagene: cover fire doesn't count
12:36 AM - Mutagene: I mean healing, buffing, and changing the environment
12:38 AM - Mutagene: I rarely got to fire my guns when playing on a team as support but I had more fun than I did playing as the weapon-oriented classes
12:38 AM - Mutagene: I don't care about kill contests
12:38 AM - Mr. Lightning Bolt: My  point was that you misunderstood the meaning of thigns within the game and instead put in your own interpretations
12:38 AM - Mr. Lightning Bolt: >I mean healing, buffing, and changing the environment
12:38 AM - Mr. Lightning Bolt: >healing, buffing, and changing the environment
12:38 AM - Mr. Lightning Bolt: >changing the environment
12:38 AM - Mr. Lightning Bolt: Close enough
12:39 AM - Mutagene: welding bruh
12:39 AM - Mr. Lightning Bolt: Or, you know, killing the biggest potential threats on the map before they actually become threats
12:39 AM - Mr. Lightning Bolt: That's kind of, you know, what some classes do
12:39 AM - Mutagene: I can't leave that to someone else who enjoys it more?
12:39 AM - Mr. Lightning Bolt: What the fuck are you talking about?
12:39 AM - Mutagene: for fuck's sake, I never said the classes were bad
12:39 AM - Mutagene: I just don't like playing them
12:39 AM - Mutagene: because THEY'RE NOT FOR ME
12:40 AM - Mr. Lightning Bolt: No, seriously
12:40 AM - Mr. Lightning Bolt: What the fuck are you talking about
12:40 AM - Mutagene: I give up
12:40 AM - Mr. Lightning Bolt: :))))))))))))))))))))))))
12:40 AM - BackstaB, The Sexy Stallion: :/
12:40 AM - Mutagene: you keep rooty tooty point and shooting and I'll have my own fun supporting my teammates
12:41 AM - World Marshal Security Officer disconnected.
12:42 AM - World Marshal Security Officer entered chat.
12:43 AM - Mr. Lightning Bolt: So let me get this straight. You basically misinterpreted a misunderstanding of definition on your part as an "attack on your opinions" from me?
12:43 AM - Mr. Lightning Bolt: Because that's all I'm relaly getting from this
12:43 AM - Mutagene: uhh, no I didn't?
12:44 AM - Mutagene: I mentioned it because you seem to think that everyone has the exact same perception as you
12:44 AM - Mr. Lightning Bolt: Facts are universal
12:44 AM - Mr. Lightning Bolt: You misunderstood facts
12:44 AM - Mutagene: and your opinion is fact?
12:44 AM - Mr. Lightning Bolt: No it ins't, dipshit
12:45 AM - Mutagene: then stop acting high and fucking mighty about them
12:45 AM - BackstaB, The Sexy Stallion: g-guys. :c
12:46 AM - Mr. Lightning Bolt: The fact that sharpshooter is not an offensive class is not an opinion
12:46 AM - Mutagene: the only reason anyone gets mad at you is because you're constantly on a high horse
12:46 AM - Mr. Lightning Bolt: Ad hominem, however
12:47 AM - Mr. Lightning Bolt: The reason why I am on a high horse is because most of the time, the only arguments people have against facts are dumb emotional appeals and other fallacies
12:47 AM - Mr. Lightning Bolt: Much like you
12:47 AM - Mutagene: let me have my dumb emotional appeals and fallacies
12:47 AM - Mutagene: they don't affect you
12:47 AM - Mr. Lightning Bolt: You star by misunderstanding very simple facts, and then move onto attacking your arguing opponent with fallacies
12:48 AM - Mutagene: I'm not harming anyone by having a different perception
12:49 AM - Mutagene: sometimes I think you would get along great in the church
12:49 AM - Mr. Lightning Bolt: :)
12:50 AM - Mr. Lightning Bolt: because I have an argument and I know how to support it?
12:50 AM - World Marshal Security Officer: ey MLB you stupid shit
12:50 AM - Mr. Lightning Bolt: And then I stop supporting it if I'm wrong?
12:50 AM - World Marshal Security Officer: you playing solo
12:50 AM - Mutagene: because you force your own ideals down others' throats
12:50 AM - Mr. Lightning Bolt: And I don't mean wrong in a subjective "mah feelings hurt ;((((" sort of way
12:51 AM - Mr. Lightning Bolt: I believe in facts and knowledge
12:51 AM - Mr. Lightning Bolt: If someone's wrong, they should fucking admit it
12:51 AM - Mutagene: you believe in being a dick to anyone who thinks differently than you do
12:51 AM - Mutagene: I'm not wrong for preferring to play support classes
12:51 AM - Mr. Lightning Bolt: If someone doens't know enough, they should just assume that they're probably not right should they try to argue, and then learn more about whatever subject is currently presented to them
12:52 AM - Mr. Lightning Bolt: I never brought anyone's opinions on the classes up. You are the only one that has used the words "opinion" or "prefer" here.
12:52 AM - Mutagene: you got pissy when I said that I didn't like something
12:52 AM - Mr. Lightning Bolt: The fact that you don't like playing sharpshooter doens't change the class' role.
12:52 AM - Mutagene: I never said that I wanted it to play differently?
12:52 AM - Mr. Lightning Bolt: No, i got pissy when i realized you were using fallacies to back up fallacies about a topic that you didn't know much about to begin with.
12:53 AM - Mutagene: personal preference is a fallacy, sure
12:53 AM - Mr. Lightning Bolt: Yes it is, actually
12:53 AM - Mr. Lightning Bolt: Appeals to emotion, etc
12:53 AM - Mr. Lightning Bolt: I'm going to get pissy when I shove my dick down your mom's throat ;)
12:53 AM - Mutagene: I'm not trying to appeal to anyone but myself
12:54 AM - Mutagene: I play what I like and you play what you like, how about that?
12:54 AM - Mutagene: because not everyone is you
12:54 AM - Jermatoo: God damn.
12:55 AM - Jermatoo: This videos fucked.
12:55 AM - Mr. Lightning Bolt: Can you elaborate on how not everyone is me, please?
12:55 AM - Mutagene: people have different opinions
12:55 AM - Mutagene: i.e. not yours
12:55 AM - Mr. Lightning Bolt: I seem to have very warped world views where I always feel a need to defend myself emotionally whenever someone tells me I'm wron-
12:55 AM - Mr. Lightning Bolt: Waaaaait a second
12:55 AM - Mr. Lightning Bolt: Am I...
12:55 AM - Mr. Lightning Bolt: Am I...
12:55 AM - Mr. Lightning Bolt: MUTAGENE?!
12:56 AM - Mutagene: I'm wrong for wanting to play a different class than you?
12:56 AM - Mr. Lightning Bolt: No
12:56 AM - Mr. Lightning Bolt: Idiot
12:56 AM - Mr. Lightning Bolt: Listen
12:56 AM - Mr. Lightning Bolt: wYou miunderstood what the classes do
12:56 AM - Mr. Lightning Bolt: I tried to correct that
12:57 AM - Jermatoo: Fuck man.
12:57 AM - Mutagene: tell me, how is shooting a gun being directly supportive to teammates
12:57 AM - Mr. Lightning Bolt: You got defensive about subjective thigns in an argument about objectivity
12:57 AM - Jermatoo: Vice has posted some shit.
12:57 AM - Jermatoo: But god damn this cannibal interview is fucked up.
12:58 AM - Mr. Lightning Bolt: Because Fleshpounds can end games
12:58 AM - Mr. Lightning Bolt: Scrakes too
12:58 AM - Mr. Lightning Bolt: And Sirens
12:58 AM - Mr. Lightning Bolt: ANd Husks
12:58 AM - Mr. Lightning Bolt: And all the thigns that Sharpshooter is there especially to kill
12:59 AM - Mr. Lightning Bolt: Sharpshooter is NOT an offensive class
12:59 AM - Mr. Lightning Bolt: They do not kill zeds in numbers
12:59 AM - Mutagene: it does nothing but kill
12:59 AM - Mr. Lightning Bolt: If a sharpshooter has the most kills on your team, you are doing somethign WRONG
12:59 AM - Mutagene: it's not about kill numbers
12:59 AM - Mutagene: it's the fact that sharpshooter has no way to save dying teammates
12:59 AM - Mr. Lightning Bolt: press 5
1:00 AM - Mr. Lightning Bolt: or shoot the husk
1:01 AM - World Marshal Security Officer disconnected.
1:01 AM - World Marshal Security Officer entered chat.
1:05 AM - Mr. Lightning Bolt: Also
1:05 AM - Mr. Lightning Bolt: "the fact"
1:06 AM - Mr. Lightning Bolt: How about the fact that each class's usefulness is proportional to the skill of themselves and their team?
1:06 AM - Mr. Lightning Bolt: How about the fact that every class has multiple ways of helping their teammates?
1:06 AM - Mutagene: a teammate is only going to last so long without healing
1:06 AM - Mr. Lightning Bolt: surprise
1:06 AM - Mr. Lightning Bolt: Every class can heal
1:07 AM - Mr. Lightning Bolt: :O
1:07 AM - Mutagene: to a very small degree
1:07 AM - Mr. Lightning Bolt: :))))
1:07 AM - BackstaB, The Sexy Stallion: Its not tonight.
1:07 AM - BackstaB, The Sexy Stallion: hot*
1:08 AM - Mutagene left chat.
1:08 AM - Mr. Lightning Bolt: It's everyone's job to not take damage in the first place. All damage is avoida-
1:08 AM - Mr. Lightning Bolt: :)
1:09 AM - BackstaB, The Sexy Stallion: :|