Clam's conversation with Jules:

Jules: : >or staged a fake coup to gain power
fuck you clam
[1:40 PM] jules: seriously
[1:40 PM] Clam: :eek:
[1:41 PM] Clam: @jules sorry if that offends you
[1:41 PM] jules: you wasnt out there that night waiting for death
[1:41 PM] Clam: wasn't my intention
[1:41 PM] Clam: we should probably drop this convo
[1:41 PM] christmas_treebie23: I'm still more worried about the russia x ukraine thing
[1:41 PM] Clam: i'll retract my statement sorry jules
[1:42 PM] jules: calling it a "fake coup" seriously bothers me
[1:42 PM] Clam: it sure seemed fake from my perspective
[1:42 PM] jules: because you are in canada + your allies were supporting the coup
[1:43 PM] jules: ofc thats how they going to portray it
[1:43 PM] Clam: jules there were like two tanks tota
[1:43 PM] bie23: werent even UN peacekeepers dispatched for regions that had nothing to do with it?
[1:43 PM] Bebop: Propaganda goes both ways
[1:43 PM] jules: do you want to eat your words clam
[1:43 PM] jules: or just want to drop this
[1:44 PM] bie23: I'm on the side of the blue helmets, they are just there and do nothing
[1:44 PM] Moose: Probably best to drop this.
[1:44 PM] Clam: @jules probably best to drop it, if we can't talk about it in a constructive way then i see no point
[1:45 PM] Clam: i will say i have no intention to offend

Msg first sent by me...

[1:49 PM] Mei: Yeah, Jules is crazy touchy about it.
[1:49 PM] Mei: I would just not mention it at all, ever again.
[1:49 PM] CAT: i kinda wanna dm him to talk about it
[1:49 PM] Mei: He was there during the whole thing.
[1:49 PM] Mei: I mean
[1:49 PM] CAT: i genuinely want to get his opinion
[1:49 PM] Mei: that's a surefire way to be kicked out of the group tbh lol
[1:49 PM] CAT: even if it's purely diplomatic?
[1:50 PM] CAT: like no accusations?
[1:50 PM] Mei: THe way you just talked to him didn't sound like that, so I think you already ruined your chance
[1:50 PM] Mei: Jules lives super close to wheree all the action went down
[1:50 PM] CAT: aHH YEAH
[1:50 PM] CAT: I'D DM HIM WITH DIFFERENT TONE FOR SURE
[1:50 PM] CAT: BUT YOUR PROBABLY RIGHT
[1:50 PM] CAT: ahh
[1:50 PM] CAT: caps*
[1:50 PM] Mei: If you wanna play with fire sure try msging him
[1:50 PM] Mei: but if he asks me to kick you from the group the answer will be yes lol
[1:50 PM] CAT: no i'll let sleeping dogs lie if it's that touchy
[1:51 PM] Mei: Yep, it's risky as hell.
[1:51 PM] Mei: You could apologize later though
[1:51 PM] CAT: wow crazy
[1:51 PM] CAT: almost got kicked out cause of turkey politics
[1:52 PM] CAT: i already apologized though
[1:52 PM] Mei: since if you're going to become a parthian lite, if he's still mad at you it's gonna make it awk lol
[1:52 PM] CAT: like 4 times lol
[1:52 PM] Mei: You ended with "we can't discuss this in constructive manner" which implies that you think he's not being constructive
[1:52 PM] CAT: sigh
[1:52 PM] CAT: ok
[1:52 PM] Mei: So now,
[1:52 PM] Mei: I'm going to have to ask Jules first if you can become parthian lite because of this lol
[1:53 PM] Mei: This is why politics shouldnt be discussed heavily
[1:53 PM] CAT: i
[1:53 PM] CAT: don't really know how i feel about this tbh
[1:53 PM] Mei: I can understand how he feels though
[1:53 PM] Mei: A lot of western news sources fuck up Japanese based news
[1:53 PM] Mei: and it can be annoying to see that happen
[1:54 PM] Mei: and to see people try to argue with me that I'm wrong
[1:54 PM] Mei: or that Japan is wrong in general
[1:54 PM] Mei: Jules has had to argue this so much over the years lol
[1:54 PM] CAT: ahh yeah ok
[1:54 PM] Mei: So it's around same level as "I don't feel like explaining why I don't like Your Name anymore" except with emotional feels.
[1:54 PM] CAT: i'd rather we drop this convo
[1:54 PM] CAT: feeling pretty put off atm
[1:54 PM] Mei: I guess we should discuss it later then once things settle down.
[1:55 PM] CAT: yeah
[1:56 PM] Mei: I'll let you reach out then. Take care.
[2:03 PM] Mei: Actually, just going to note that I asked Jules just now.

1:57 PM] jules: he is too opinionated? idk
[1:57 PM] jules: I dont mind tho
[1:57 PM] Mei: I see
[1:58 PM] jules: if it means less work for you especially :1_BlobReachGif:
[1:58 PM] Mei: Haha ok.
[2:12 PM] CAT: uhh i'll be honest i'm not taking the handling of this well at all
[2:12 PM] Mei: OK, let me know what I can do // what we can talk about to work through it.
November 6, 2020
[6:13 AM] Mei: Hi, when are we going to talk about this?
[7:05 AM] CAT: I'm genuinely still pretty upset, so I'd like to make sure i don't say anything I'd regret, so for now i have no eta on when I'll be ready, probably when I've calmed down a bit more
[7:07 AM] Mei: Okay. Its a bit odd with you still talking but feeling like you skirting around me
[7:10 AM] CAT: I am skirting around you, I'm genuinely pretty hurt, but that feeling doesn't extend to other tsp staff
[7:10 AM] CAT: i've you'd rather i didn't talk in tsp though i'll oblige
[7:12 AM] Mei: Hmmmm. I'm fairly upset about this too. I think it best you give yourself time to think about it
[7:12 AM] Mei: And come back when we can resolve it, hopefully
[7:13 AM] CAT: alrighty that would be best