Wolf vs FJ, Embrace's Judgement

FJ Response 1

Pickle durable
	Pickle Tanks mach punch, so should take tungsten rod from Kan
	Pickle tanks Musashi's swing, which cuts through armored cars
	Origin at best cuts through metal rods
	Kan at best cuts through Origin
	Pickle takes Baki's punch which fracture concrete- Origin and Kan have nothing close
Pickle Strong
	Pickle's strike fracture walls or dent into metal
	Kan and Origin get hurt by strikes that dent concrete mildly
Pickle fast
	Dodges bullet at near point blank
	Moves back and forth lots of distance while Jack throws punch
	Pickle scales to Baki, who moves at 168mph
Musashi fast
	Catches knife near face- calc says it's 170 mph
	Musashi sees Baki, who makes 3 strikes look like one
Musashi skilled
	He predicts movements and counters
Musashi strong
	His sword cuts through a car, so it can cut through Kan and Origin's swords and their bodies
	Imaginary cutting- kills the robots
Nothing much asides from stats

Wolf Response 1

Kan fast
	400kmph tungsten rod, or throw at supersonic speed
	Scales to origin
	Multiple arms
	Dodges fast arrows at close range
	Communicates super fast
Origin fast
	Dodges Kan's rod
	Dodges bullet at close range, or blocks
	Fast perception
Origin strong
	Origin's gun shoots something that makes .50 cals look like water pistols
	Origin's sword cuts through stuff that no sells his gun
Kan strong
	Can obliterate bulletproof robots
	Throws rod that goes through origin, and obliterates a car
Kan durable
	He takes a gun that's stronger than other guns
Origin durable
	Is bullet proof
Pickle weak
	Bleeds from 9mm bullets
Pickle slow
	His bullet timing feats isn't one and is bad
	Baki fighters consistently have 500ms reactions
Musashi slow
	His knife catch implies 300 ms reactions
	Baki fighters consistently have 500ms reactions

FJ Response 2

Pickle Fast
	Pickle isn't human, 500 ms doesn't apply to him
Moves at 168mph
Musashi Fast
	Seeing 3 strikes as one implies 500 ms doesn't apply to him
Kan weak
	Gets hurt by Origin striking him subsonically
	So the shotgun feat is an outlier
	Can't do anything to Pickle
Origin Weak
	> Martial Arts Master is made of a gold and platinum alloy which are two notoriously soft metals yet Origin can't take his head off
	https://i.imgur.com/VFqwtQP.png
	Origin at best cuts through soft metals, can't pierce Pickle, who also takes a 5 ton triceratops
Origin not durable
	Gets pierced by bullets
Origin doesn't go all out
	He blend in with humanity

Wolf Response 2

Pickle not durable
	Has no piercing durability
	Logic of equating mach punch to mach bullet is bad
	Pickle's muscles were pierced by 3mm ammunition when low tier robots in Origin take machine gun fire
	FJ is mixing blunt and piercing durability
Musashi not durable
	Has no relevant durability
Pickle and Musashi slow
	Maybe fast movement, but bad reactions
	Because Origin and Kan have one shot hits, this is bad
	The knife dodge is meh, he's just matching the speed of the knife (60kmph), also tension between good reaction time and good movement speed
	Pickle gets hit by a car, his bullet timing feat is still bad
	Pickle's Jack feat doesn't matter
	168 mph pertains to movement speed, not hand speed nor reactions
	Their speed is predicated on prediction, but Kan and Origin are robots so they can't be predicted
Origin and Kan durable
	They're robots- they can't feel pain
	Their expressed pain is an indicator of their personality module, not actual damage
	Origin took a lot of strikes from Gon
	Origin takes the bullets, he's playing dead, you need armor piercing stuff to damage him
	Origin has infinite endurance
Origin and Kan fast
	Kan strikes at 250mph
	Origin can match or exceed him
Musashi weak
	His sword cutting an armored car is inferior to Kan's durability (taking super bullets), and Origin cutting Kan
	His sword loses to Kan's rod
Pickle weak
	First feat doesn't show how damage is delivered, 2nd one has no time frame (so many hits), 3rd is offrscreen
Origin in character kills
	Yeah

Judgement

>!Wolf Wins!<. I think that the robots have a significant advantage in speed over the Baki humans, regardless of whether I accept the 500ms thingy or not, and that they have sufficient offense relative to the Baki's characters defense that they can press their piercing advantage before either can counter

Some comments for FJ
* I think you could've handled the piercing debate better – I think the feats for arguing that Pickle can take Kan or Origin's piercing exists, it's just that the way you articulated the difference was incorrectly argued. You should emphasize the shearing aspects of the piercing that Pickle takes and proceed from there.
* A lot of the feats used were particularly vague such that I could easily discount them relative to how the robot's speed were portrayed, I think being more specific on the implications of the feats would be helpful
Some comments for Wolf
* Don't really have much to say asides from that I'd prefer a little more specificity when comparing Musashi's piercing to Origin and Kan's.