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FJ Response 1 Pickle durable Pickle Tanks mach punch, so should take tungsten rod from Kan Pickle tanks Musashi's swing, which cuts through armored cars Origin at best cuts through metal rods Kan at best cuts through Origin Pickle takes Baki's punch which fracture concrete- Origin and Kan have nothing close Pickle Strong Pickle's strike fracture walls or dent into metal Kan and Origin get hurt by strikes that dent concrete mildly Pickle fast Dodges bullet at near point blank Moves back and forth lots of distance while Jack throws punch Pickle scales to Baki, who moves at 168mph Musashi fast Catches knife near face- calc says it's 170 mph Musashi sees Baki, who makes 3 strikes look like one Musashi skilled He predicts movements and counters Musashi strong His sword cuts through a car, so it can cut through Kan and Origin's swords and their bodies Imaginary cutting- kills the robots Nothing much asides from stats Wolf Response 1 Kan fast 400kmph tungsten rod, or throw at supersonic speed Scales to origin Multiple arms Dodges fast arrows at close range Communicates super fast Origin fast Dodges Kan's rod Dodges bullet at close range, or blocks Fast perception Origin strong Origin's gun shoots something that makes .50 cals look like water pistols Origin's sword cuts through stuff that no sells his gun Kan strong Can obliterate bulletproof robots Throws rod that goes through origin, and obliterates a car Kan durable He takes a gun that's stronger than other guns Origin durable Is bullet proof Pickle weak Bleeds from 9mm bullets Pickle slow His bullet timing feats isn't one and is bad Baki fighters consistently have 500ms reactions Musashi slow His knife catch implies 300 ms reactions Baki fighters consistently have 500ms reactions FJ Response 2 Pickle Fast Pickle isn't human, 500 ms doesn't apply to him Moves at 168mph Musashi Fast Seeing 3 strikes as one implies 500 ms doesn't apply to him Kan weak Gets hurt by Origin striking him subsonically So the shotgun feat is an outlier Can't do anything to Pickle Origin Weak > Martial Arts Master is made of a gold and platinum alloy which are two notoriously soft metals yet Origin can't take his head off https://i.imgur.com/VFqwtQP.png Origin at best cuts through soft metals, can't pierce Pickle, who also takes a 5 ton triceratops Origin not durable Gets pierced by bullets Origin doesn't go all out He blend in with humanity Wolf Response 2 Pickle not durable Has no piercing durability Logic of equating mach punch to mach bullet is bad Pickle's muscles were pierced by 3mm ammunition when low tier robots in Origin take machine gun fire FJ is mixing blunt and piercing durability Musashi not durable Has no relevant durability Pickle and Musashi slow Maybe fast movement, but bad reactions Because Origin and Kan have one shot hits, this is bad The knife dodge is meh, he's just matching the speed of the knife (60kmph), also tension between good reaction time and good movement speed Pickle gets hit by a car, his bullet timing feat is still bad Pickle's Jack feat doesn't matter 168 mph pertains to movement speed, not hand speed nor reactions Their speed is predicated on prediction, but Kan and Origin are robots so they can't be predicted Origin and Kan durable They're robots- they can't feel pain Their expressed pain is an indicator of their personality module, not actual damage Origin took a lot of strikes from Gon Origin takes the bullets, he's playing dead, you need armor piercing stuff to damage him Origin has infinite endurance Origin and Kan fast Kan strikes at 250mph Origin can match or exceed him Musashi weak His sword cutting an armored car is inferior to Kan's durability (taking super bullets), and Origin cutting Kan His sword loses to Kan's rod Pickle weak First feat doesn't show how damage is delivered, 2nd one has no time frame (so many hits), 3rd is offrscreen Origin in character kills Yeah Judgement >!Wolf Wins!<. I think that the robots have a significant advantage in speed over the Baki humans, regardless of whether I accept the 500ms thingy or not, and that they have sufficient offense relative to the Baki's characters defense that they can press their piercing advantage before either can counter Some comments for FJ * I think you could've handled the piercing debate better – I think the feats for arguing that Pickle can take Kan or Origin's piercing exists, it's just that the way you articulated the difference was incorrectly argued. You should emphasize the shearing aspects of the piercing that Pickle takes and proceed from there. * A lot of the feats used were particularly vague such that I could easily discount them relative to how the robot's speed were portrayed, I think being more specific on the implications of the feats would be helpful Some comments for Wolf * Don't really have much to say asides from that I'd prefer a little more specificity when comparing Musashi's piercing to Origin and Kan's.
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