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  1.  
  2. Let Them Tremble - Last Monday at 10:07 PM
  3. I'm actually not sure about the banning of "fuck". The list of problematic things that capitalism does to language is literally endless, and at this point we're going down an endless rabbit-hole, becoming extremely inward-looking and detatched from people's actual intentions
  4. uvoa - Last Monday at 10:07 PM
  5. upholder is very nice
  6. comrade mccarthy - Last Monday at 10:07 PM
  7. i think it pretty explicitly is tied to sexual assault or attaches a negative meaning to a specific sex act
  8. but if we get more detailed imo we should go to the cw channel
  9. Let Them Tremble - Last Monday at 10:08 PM
  10. I really don't, to be honest. That's simply not the context it's overwhelmingly used in
  11. comrade mccarthy - Last Monday at 10:08 PM
  12. "get fucked"
  13. what else could that mean?
  14. Let Them Tremble - Last Monday at 10:09 PM
  15. It's not literal though is it? Like are people actually trying to evoke a particular image when they say that?
  16. uvoa - Last Monday at 10:09 PM
  17. #cw-server-moderation
  18. Pav - Last Monday at 10:49 PM
  19. i agree with tremble
  20. June 13, 2017
  21. CrumblyHandsomeCorbynizer - Last Tuesday at 1:55 AM
  22. What the heck is nightbot?
  23. Mew - Last Tuesday at 7:15 AM
  24. ^
  25. Sanic Hedjehoag - Last Tuesday at 7:38 AM
  26. Honestly do we need any bots in here other than snailbot?
  27. Let Them Tremble - Last Tuesday at 9:22 AM
  28. Oh I was just seeing if I could get a bot to do some overnight maintanence for us(edited)
  29. Like clear the lobby and post the welcome command
  30. June 14, 2017
  31. The Law 👩🏼⚖ - Last Wednesday at 1:38 PM
  32. we can discuss in here and not run off to our own special cliquey server
  33. Please let's just have some dialogue
  34. Read Marx - Last Wednesday at 1:41 PM
  35. Why have dialog when you can just split?
  36. The Law 👩🏼⚖ - Last Wednesday at 1:41 PM
  37. Exactly!
  38. (Finger on forehead meme)
  39. gatz - Last Wednesday at 1:43 PM
  40. whats that meme
  41. comrade mccarthy - Last Wednesday at 1:43 PM
  42. the-trash-dove-meme-is-the-meme-of-the-month-26.png
  43. 290.26 KB
  44. gatz - Last Wednesday at 1:44 PM
  45. oh my goood
  46. roll saaaafe
  47. dun kno
  48. Jay - Last Wednesday at 1:44 PM
  49. :think:
  50. uvoa - Last Wednesday at 1:45 PM
  51. :think:
  52. comrade mccarthy - Last Wednesday at 1:45 PM
  53. :think:
  54. gatz - Last Wednesday at 1:45 PM
  55. im roll safe but my government name is reese innit
  56. Jay - Last Wednesday at 1:45 PM
  57. Alright lets get it cracking
  58. Read Marx - Last Wednesday at 1:46 PM
  59. So what's this about a breakaway server and why weren't ALL of the sub and server mods included?
  60. comrade mccarthy - Last Wednesday at 1:47 PM
  61. and why were the people you chose to invite overwhelmingly white
  62. enji - Last Wednesday at 1:47 PM
  63. Because it's a breakaway server @Read Marx
  64. Clearly some of us are unwanted elements
  65. comrade mccarthy - Last Wednesday at 1:47 PM
  66. <.<
  67. >.>
  68. @everyone
  69. Jay - Last Wednesday at 1:48 PM
  70. :blobok:
  71. Subcomandante DeMarcos - Last Wednesday at 1:49 PM
  72. wuss goin on
  73. comrade mccarthy - Last Wednesday at 1:49 PM
  74. hey flop
  75. i miss u
  76. Read Marx - Last Wednesday at 1:49 PM
  77. Yes, but this was to reform the server and sub. It seems like everyone who's critical of more than superficial issues and apparently poc are persona non grata, @enji.
  78. The Law 👩🏼⚖ - Last Wednesday at 1:49 PM
  79. Hi flop
  80. Subcomandante DeMarcos - Last Wednesday at 1:49 PM
  81. sup comrade
  82. Detroit Red - Last Wednesday at 1:49 PM
  83. @Subcomandante DeMarcos It's been a while!
  84. Subcomandante DeMarcos - Last Wednesday at 1:49 PM
  85. sorry guuuuys
  86. Byz - Last Wednesday at 1:49 PM
  87. What's going on?
  88. enji - Last Wednesday at 1:49 PM
  89. flop
  90. The Law 👩🏼⚖ - Last Wednesday at 1:49 PM
  91. It's no problem flop!
  92. enji - Last Wednesday at 1:49 PM
  93. Major fuckry is going on
  94. That's what
  95. Subcomandante DeMarcos - Last Wednesday at 1:49 PM
  96. I wanted to concentrate on my music and stuff so I cut myself off from the internet for a while
  97. comrade mccarthy - Last Wednesday at 1:49 PM
  98. the top mods made a breakaway server and excluded the vast majority of the modteam
  99. and are trying to restart the server
  100. w/o the input of most of the mods
  101. Detroit Red - Last Wednesday at 1:49 PM
  102. @Subcomandante DeMarcos dw about it! IRL > online stuff
  103. Sanic Hedjehoag - Last Wednesday at 1:49 PM
  104. Wait what
  105. Byz - Last Wednesday at 1:50 PM
  106. @comrade mccarthy Woah, who is behind it?
  107. Thecatwhomines - Last Wednesday at 1:50 PM
  108. What's this about a breakaway server?
  109. comrade mccarthy - Last Wednesday at 1:50 PM
  110. Anon
  111. Pav - Last Wednesday at 1:50 PM
  112. wtf
  113. comrade mccarthy - Last Wednesday at 1:50 PM
  114. started it
  115. but a good numbr of the mods are in there now i think
  116. originally it was just uh
  117. hold on i got the list
  118. Unknown_Email - Last Wednesday at 1:50 PM
  119. Stop
  120. just please
  121. for one moment
  122. First, could you at least please do this when Anon and LTT are on?
  123. So you can ask them while they're you know
  124. online
  125. comrade mccarthy - Last Wednesday at 1:51 PM
  126. Crumbly, Tremble, Anon, Unknown, Minx, Pingu
  127. and no, unknown, im not
  128. they can respond when they find the time
  129. Read Marx - Last Wednesday at 1:51 PM
  130. This is getting done one way or another.
  131. Unknown_Email - Last Wednesday at 1:51 PM
  132. Second, i'll post the general thing i've been getting from that server
  133. "Anon approached multiple mods, including myself, minx, Crumbly, and LTT
  134. This has come out of two general concerns. First it's that the current server has a lot of issues on most aspects on how its run. As for the most part its been patchwork and ad hoc with no real formalized systems for rules and some people acting unilaterally in creating and enforcing some rules, that from there makes inconsistencies(edited)
  135. The second is that in its current state: The discord has a problem of having a toxic culture, which has at least in part come out of our ad hoc-ness
  136. And that it isn't a positive or growing influence"
  137. Derrida's Corbyniser - Last Wednesday at 1:52 PM
  138. they are probably off building the mass movement rn
  139. think8
  140. Read Marx - Last Wednesday at 1:52 PM
  141. Lol.
  142. Revolutions1917 - Last Wednesday at 1:53 PM
  143. i'm a little offended that you decided to run off and do this w/o the consent or input of the vast majority of the mod-team tho
  144. Read Marx - Last Wednesday at 1:53 PM
  145. The breakaway mods want me and possibly other mods to fuck off forever, just tell us.
  146. I can take a hint.
  147. Don't do this HS council politics bullshit.
  148. The Law 👩🏼⚖ - Last Wednesday at 1:54 PM
  149. This is literally high school level drama
  150. Subcomandante DeMarcos - Last Wednesday at 1:54 PM
  151. excuse me but as a high school student we don't pull this shit either
  152. enji - Last Wednesday at 1:54 PM
  153. Never was this petty in HS
  154. Not once
  155. comrade mccarthy - Last Wednesday at 1:55 PM
  156. i was about this petty in highschool im not gonna lie
  157. envious of yalls pettyless lifestyles
  158. Sanic Hedjehoag - Last Wednesday at 1:55 PM
  159. I'm still this petty in college but also what is going on
  160. Derrida's Corbyniser - Last Wednesday at 1:55 PM
  161. don't worry i am petty but i am quiet about it
  162. Unknown_Email - Last Wednesday at 1:56 PM
  163. look ultimately this is what i'm laying out and hontestly i don't really have the time to argue right now because I got classes soon and I got to catch a bus. SO i'll just lay this out: There are things being brought up that I feel are concerns that are quite problematic, and there is a problem when it comes to this server's culture and how aspects are dealt with, I accept the other server is probably a bad idea.
  164. And yes the discussion is probably better done here
  165. however there's still concerns that i sometimes don't feel comfortable voicing because of my anxiety problems.
  166. enji - Last Wednesday at 1:58 PM
  167. Half of the peeps behind this are in CENTCOM
  168. With Heroes like that
  169. Who needs villains
  170. Read Marx - Last Wednesday at 1:58 PM
  171. ^
  172.  
  173. comrade mccarthy - Last Wednesday at 1:58 PM
  174. :muscle:
  175. Detroit Red - Last Wednesday at 1:58 PM
  176. What is CentCom?
  177. The Law 👩🏼⚖ - Last Wednesday at 1:58 PM
  178. I understand unknown
  179. comrade mccarthy - Last Wednesday at 1:58 PM
  180. Unknown if there are issues you are uncomfortable voicing no one blames you for going to another moderator to ask them to bring it up on your behalf
  181. The Law 👩🏼⚖ - Last Wednesday at 1:58 PM
  182. Central committee
  183. enji - Last Wednesday at 1:58 PM
  184. Central Committee
  185. Derrida's Corbyniser - Last Wednesday at 1:58 PM
  186. it makes sense why certain people were given centcom with no discussion after finding out about the server
  187. enji - Last Wednesday at 1:58 PM
  188. The reformed Heroes role
  189. Read Marx - Last Wednesday at 1:59 PM
  190. The reform system created a centcom and sub coms.
  191. Ragark - Last Wednesday at 1:59 PM
  192. Centcom is months old and related to an old issue.
  193. Read Marx - Last Wednesday at 1:59 PM
  194. Since you left, Detroit.
  195. comrade mccarthy - Last Wednesday at 1:59 PM
  196. so glad detroit is home
  197. The Law 👩🏼⚖ - Last Wednesday at 1:59 PM
  198. me too
  199. also brb
  200. Jay - Last Wednesday at 1:59 PM
  201. A great day
  202. Derrida's Corbyniser - Last Wednesday at 1:59 PM
  203. detroit is back from brb :heart:
  204. Byz - Last Wednesday at 1:59 PM
  205. @Detroit Red Hey Detroit!
  206. Read Marx - Last Wednesday at 1:59 PM
  207. I honestly don't feel like participating in soc discord much longer.
  208. Detroit Red - Last Wednesday at 1:59 PM
  209. Hi!
  210. Detroit Red - Last Wednesday at 2:00 PM
  211. @Ragark ...So is centcom just Hero of the USSR?
  212. comrade mccarthy - Last Wednesday at 2:00 PM
  213. i care abotu the server & the community a lot, but i dont like moderators going behind each others backs and not consulting the rest of the modteam abt changes
  214. Revolutions1917 - Last Wednesday at 2:00 PM
  215. For the record, I agree that the chat has a problem with toxicity and there a few holes in how the discord is run, but that's a conversation we should be having with all members of the mod-team in order to find ways to fix those problems
  216. Like, you know, a team without massive communication problems would do
  217. Ragark - Last Wednesday at 2:00 PM
  218. Yea. Centcom was going to be cleared once we got the commitees functional
  219. Revolutions1917 - Last Wednesday at 2:00 PM
  220. We shouldn't be doing this petty BS with a breakaway server
  221. Read Marx - Last Wednesday at 2:00 PM
  222. @Revolutions1917, but that involves actual work!
  223. El Tío de Capitalismo - Last Wednesday at 2:01 PM
  224. so is the central issue ad-hocness? Because I totally feel like we need ot lay down formalized rules and structures on how this server is run
  225. but yeah this just sounds like pettiness, and I'm not sure if it's related to the recent restructuring to the moderation but it sounds like it?(edited)
  226. enji - Last Wednesday at 2:02 PM
  227. It's incidental
  228. Jay - Last Wednesday at 2:02 PM
  229. ^
  230. comrade mccarthy - Last Wednesday at 2:02 PM
  231. its so weird how some members of the chat were accused of power-grabbing and also cliqueiness while this shit is happening in the BG
  232. El Tío de Capitalismo - Last Wednesday at 2:02 PM
  233. ok I wasn't sure
  234. Ragark - Last Wednesday at 2:02 PM
  235. Another big issue is that this server has become a community of It's own and no longer really acts like a chatroom for the subreddit
  236. enji - Last Wednesday at 2:03 PM
  237. The context was over the high-level discussion on the purpose of the server that came from debate over the moderation of particular phrases with the word 'fuck' in them.
  238. See #cw-server-moderation if you wish(edited)
  239. Derrida's Corbyniser - Last Wednesday at 2:03 PM
  240. Discord and reddit as services are so vastly different hat is doomed to happen
  241. enji - Last Wednesday at 2:03 PM
  242. Oops
  243. nudel - Last Wednesday at 2:04 PM
  244. @Ragark thats a fair point, I just dont see the purpose of creating another server, why not just have that conversation in here?
  245. isnt that exactly what this chat is for?
  246. Ragark - Last Wednesday at 2:05 PM
  247. I'm not sure exactly. Maybe anon felt it'd do nothing but create a massive fight because people are so invested in this community and not having a clear idea of where the divide is would create more problems. Of course I'm speculating
  248. nudel - Last Wednesday at 2:06 PM
  249. I mean, I cant imagine it would be any worse than this mess
  250. Ragark - Last Wednesday at 2:06 PM
  251. Isn't that our MO?
  252. Jay - Last Wednesday at 2:06 PM
  253. That is a conversation that would have to be had eventually its unavoidable when you are literally trying to remake the server
  254. Derrida's Corbyniser - Last Wednesday at 2:06 PM
  255. well we weren't supposed to know about it lol
  256. nudel - Last Wednesday at 2:06 PM
  257. like, fuck, going behind eachothers backs n stuff
  258. thsi is some fucking survivor shit
  259. comrade mccarthy - Last Wednesday at 2:07 PM
  260. voted off the island
  261. Read Marx - Last Wednesday at 2:07 PM
  262. We were supposed to look like fuckin dopes.
  263. gatz - Last Wednesday at 2:07 PM
  264. honestly this is exactly what i told anon when he told me about it
  265.  
  266. uvoa - Last Wednesday at 2:07 PM
  267. it's what happened in Political Discussion @nudel
  268. enji - Last Wednesday at 2:07 PM
  269. Going off and making another server to conjure up diktats means you either don't want us or you don't care what we think
  270. comrade mccarthy - Last Wednesday at 2:07 PM
  271. LOL UVIE
  272. I BET THIS WHOLE THING IS DEJA VU FOR YOU
  273. Derrida's Corbyniser - Last Wednesday at 2:07 PM
  274. uvie has already experienced this shit on PD
  275. uvoa - Last Wednesday at 2:07 PM
  276. yeah i am very exhausted
  277. i cant moderate any community without this happening i guess lol
  278. i am cursed
  279. enji - Last Wednesday at 2:08 PM
  280. Mod OTU
  281. We're too small to have drama
  282. comrade mccarthy - Last Wednesday at 2:08 PM
  283. i love otu
  284. Read Marx - Last Wednesday at 2:08 PM
  285. @enji, so that basically gives those of us not invited a clear mandate to gtfo.
  286. Derrida's Corbyniser - Last Wednesday at 2:08 PM
  287. important to note that the original PD now is home to open anti-Semitism
  288. CrumblyHandsomeCorbynizer - Last Wednesday at 2:09 PM
  289. The thing is we wanted to eke out some of the details and then present it on here as detailed and as through as we can so there's no ambiguity about what's going on. I don't think simply presenting it here as a presentation of a spur of the moment thing, considering how disfunctional mod chat can be, would have ultimately have been productive. That's at least the idea I got out of it.
  290. Sanic Hedjehoag - Last Wednesday at 2:09 PM
  291. @Derrida's Corbyniser give me a link I want this
  292. comrade mccarthy - Last Wednesday at 2:09 PM
  293. noco lmfao
  294. uvoa - Last Wednesday at 2:09 PM
  295. I would just make a point that if you do make the decision to fire most of the mod team and remake the server, your user base will shrink dramatically as a result.
  296. It doesn't work out.
  297. comrade mccarthy - Last Wednesday at 2:09 PM
  298. yeah u wanted to do that without the input of anyone else thats wht the problem is
  299. and from seeing screens of that chat
  300. hold on a sec actually
  301. Derrida's Corbyniser - Last Wednesday at 2:10 PM
  302. i don't have a link i just know from Uvie
  303. comrade mccarthy - Last Wednesday at 2:10 PM
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  306. enji - Last Wednesday at 2:10 PM
  307. "Hermetically sealed" mason jars are known to keep scrumptious treats in them
  308. comrade mccarthy - Last Wednesday at 2:10 PM
  309. its obvious you didnt think all the mods were particularly valuable
  310. Ragark - Last Wednesday at 2:10 PM
  311. 33% of the entire discord is mods
  312. Read Marx - Last Wednesday at 2:10 PM
  313. Shit, I remember being voted in.
  314. CrumblyHandsomeCorbynizer - Last Wednesday at 2:10 PM
  315. I mean, shit, look at how this discussion is going
  316. uvoa - Last Wednesday at 2:11 PM
  317. NoCo I'll send you a picture if you want to see
  318. comrade mccarthy - Last Wednesday at 2:11 PM
  319. the discussion is going fine
  320. Revolutions1917 - Last Wednesday at 2:11 PM
  321. we do have a shit ton of mods
  322. uvoa - Last Wednesday at 2:11 PM
  323. add me
  324. nudel - Last Wednesday at 2:11 PM
  325. @CrumblyHandsomeCorbynizer I mean why do you think this discussion is so fucking heated? cuz u made a fucking clique server lol(edited)
  326. and left the rest of us out of it
  327. Read Marx - Last Wednesday at 2:11 PM
  328. We're really supposed to act well in the face of all this shit? Fuck did you think was going to happen?
  329. Mew - Last Wednesday at 2:11 PM
  330. I'm genuinely tired of seeing reductio ad absurdum carted out when the conclusion isn't actually absurd.
  331. 👆10
  332. gatz - Last Wednesday at 2:13 PM
  333. i need to run that through google translate mew
  334. anyways to me, the server seemed like a direct result of the fuck fight
  335. Derrida's Corbyniser - Last Wednesday at 2:14 PM
  336. lord what a name
  337. Subcomandante DeMarcos - Last Wednesday at 2:14 PM
  338. lol
  339. fuck fight
  340. Jay - Last Wednesday at 2:14 PM
  341. was it made directly afterwards?
  342. gatz - Last Wednesday at 2:14 PM
  343. imagine reading that in a history textbook of the server
  344. yeah it did jay
  345. comrade mccarthy - Last Wednesday at 2:15 PM
  346. The Fuck Discourse
  347. gatz - Last Wednesday at 2:15 PM
  348. pretty much
  349. Read Marx - Last Wednesday at 2:15 PM
  350. Zizek would be proud.
  351. Jay - Last Wednesday at 2:15 PM
  352. well there ya have it
  353. So lets not pretend like its something else
  354.  
  355. Sanic Hedjehoag - Last Wednesday at 2:15 PM
  356. Fuck Fight is going to be my hardcore band's name
  357. enji - Last Wednesday at 2:15 PM
  358. Hold on
  359. Isn't the anniversary coming up in a few days?
  360. Subcomandante DeMarcos - Last Wednesday at 2:15 PM
  361. XFuck FightX
  362. enji - Last Wednesday at 2:16 PM
  363. What excellent timing
  364. gatz - Last Wednesday at 2:16 PM
  365. what anniversary
  366. comrade mccarthy - Last Wednesday at 2:16 PM
  367. xX_Fuck_xx_Fight_Xx
  368. enji - Last Wednesday at 2:16 PM
  369. Of /r/s Discord
  370. Detroit Red - Last Wednesday at 2:16 PM
  371. The birthday of the server
  372. uvoa - Last Wednesday at 2:16 PM
  373. @comrade mccarthy please do not dox my Xbox Live username
  374. Detroit Red - Last Wednesday at 2:16 PM
  375. and Carrot
  376. The Law 👩🏼⚖ - Last Wednesday at 2:16 PM
  377. Happy birthday server
  378. Revolutions1917 - Last Wednesday at 2:16 PM
  379. 1 year anniversary on the 17th, I think
  380. comrade mccarthy - Last Wednesday at 2:16 PM
  381. I'm sorry . Im sorry uvie im trying to delete it
  382. Jay - Last Wednesday at 2:16 PM
  383. mod chat was d e a d after that fight, what was spoken on that other server needed to be brought up here for all to read and discuss
  384. comrade mccarthy - Last Wednesday at 2:16 PM
  385. Im trying to remove it i got a virus
  386. Byz - Last Wednesday at 2:16 PM
  387. how to delete internet
  388. Subcomandante DeMarcos - Last Wednesday at 2:16 PM
  389. xXnArUtO_SaSuKeXx[FF]
  390. Derrida's Corbyniser - Last Wednesday at 2:16 PM
  391. my brother wrote it while i was in the shower sorry
  392. Revolutions1917 - Last Wednesday at 2:16 PM
  393. i thought it was really weird how dead the mod chat was
  394. comrade mccarthy - Last Wednesday at 2:16 PM
  395. Its my brother on my account
  396. Revolutions1917 - Last Wednesday at 2:17 PM
  397. guess i know why now
  398. The Law 👩🏼⚖ - Last Wednesday at 2:17 PM
  399. Yeah same
  400. Jay - Last Wednesday at 2:17 PM
  401. I thought they were in pms
  402. nudel - Last Wednesday at 2:17 PM
  403. 4 messages in a day or some sht lol
  404. uvoa - Last Wednesday at 2:17 PM
  405. i sort of figured
  406. because ive done this before...................................................
  407. comrade mccarthy - Last Wednesday at 2:17 PM
  408. i thought they were building a mass movement
  409. didnt think it was a server split
  410. enji - Last Wednesday at 2:17 PM
  411. It's on the 16th at 23:51 UTC (so just before 8pm on Friday on the US East Coast) @Revolutions1917(edited)
  412. :confetti_ball:
  413. Revolutions1917 - Last Wednesday at 2:18 PM
  414. huh
  415. Read Marx - Last Wednesday at 2:18 PM
  416. Such masses, they're going to have the biggest and best masses. Masses like you've never seen, @comrade mccarthy. It's gonna be bigly.
  417. Revolutions1917 - Last Wednesday at 2:18 PM
  418. if there hasn't been a civil war by then we should do something special
  419. comrade mccarthy - Last Wednesday at 2:18 PM
  420. smal party for the discord
  421. Ragark - Last Wednesday at 2:18 PM
  422. Clearly these jokes are for good discussion
  423. Sanic Hedjehoag - Last Wednesday at 2:18 PM
  424. Yeah, there was certainly plenty to discuss, and there are certain things that I would have perhaps sided with the Fuck Opposition on if they brought it out in the open, but from what I'm seeing this is kind of discomforting.
  425. comrade mccarthy - Last Wednesday at 2:18 PM
  426. dont make condescending remarks if you dont want them to be brought up later
  427. :shrug:
  428. Ragark - Last Wednesday at 2:19 PM
  429. Thediscourse.jph
  430. Subcomandante DeMarcos - Last Wednesday at 2:19 PM
  431. >Fuck Opposition
  432. Derrida's Corbyniser - Last Wednesday at 2:19 PM
  433. that's my straight edge band's name pls delet
  434. comrade mccarthy - Last Wednesday at 2:19 PM
  435. it is hard not to laugh because this is such a ridiculous situation
  436. Subcomandante DeMarcos - Last Wednesday at 2:19 PM
  437. once its name is said on discord it becomes too mainstream
  438. La Morsongona - Last Wednesday at 2:19 PM
  439. I have a question about 101. So, it's clear that there was going to be some sort of purge happening when the server migration would have happened. Considering that the majority of the people in the super secret server don't participate in the absolute slightest in 101, what was planning on happening there?
  440. Read Marx - Last Wednesday at 2:20 PM
  441. Server split m
  442. Ragark - Last Wednesday at 2:20 PM
  443. I'm was actually in favor of banning the fuck x remarks. But that discussions made it pretty clear there are 2 visions regarding the discord
  444. Revolutions1917 - Last Wednesday at 2:20 PM
  445. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
  446. Jay - Last Wednesday at 2:20 PM
  447. The sort of people that tremble wants on this server are inside 101 lmao
  448. which isnt necesarilly a bad thing but its hilarious
  449. uvoa - Last Wednesday at 2:20 PM
  450. What is the MO for this Discord?
  451. Revolutions1917 - Last Wednesday at 2:20 PM
  452. i was sincerely hoping for a compromise on the whole fuck thing specifically to avoid this type of thing
  453. comrade mccarthy - Last Wednesday at 2:21 PM
  454. the thing is like - most of the people who were invited to the breakaway discord arent even the most active members of the discord? afaik?
  455. uvoa - Last Wednesday at 2:21 PM
  456. The mission statement, the vision, w/e
  457. Sanic Hedjehoag - Last Wednesday at 2:21 PM
  458. @uvoa identity crisis atm
  459. The Law 👩🏼⚖ - Last Wednesday at 2:21 PM
  460. @Revolutions1917 me too I was willing to compromise
  461. uvoa - Last Wednesday at 2:22 PM
  462. From what I have been told and from what I understood, the server is a "fun, safe environment for socialists and left-leaning folk to come and hang out together"
  463. Derrida's Corbyniser - Last Wednesday at 2:22 PM
  464. it was so funny to me because we literally wanted to do nothing more than what we were already doing
  465. we just talked about it outright
  466. enji - Last Wednesday at 2:22 PM
  467. well
  468. Ragark - Last Wednesday at 2:22 PM
  469. @uvoa That's the split. People who want thia discord to be the chatroom of the sub and serve it's purpose, and those who think the community here is separate.
  470. enji - Last Wednesday at 2:22 PM
  471. Madame Mass Movement owns 101 as well @La Morsongona
  472. Mew - Last Wednesday at 2:22 PM
  473. The only way to reach a compromise on that argument was for dissenting parties to engage without being dismissive and hostile, which didn't happen
  474. nudel - Last Wednesday at 2:23 PM
  475. but isnt what you want for this discord, exactly what the 101 discord is?
  476. Derrida's Corbyniser - Last Wednesday at 2:23 PM
  477. i don't see how that kind of engagement can happen when people make breakaway servers behind other people's backs
  478. nudel - Last Wednesday at 2:23 PM
  479. and afaik, no one from the clique discord even helps out in the 101
  480. like never ever posts at all
  481. comrade mccarthy - Last Wednesday at 2:23 PM
  482. thats the thing - several of them dont post here either
  483. ever
  484. The Law 👩🏼⚖ - Last Wednesday at 2:23 PM
  485. I do!
  486. Derrida's Corbyniser - Last Wednesday at 2:24 PM
  487. :smile:
  488. The Law 👩🏼⚖ - Last Wednesday at 2:24 PM
  489. I'm also not sure why I was invited
  490. El Tío de Capitalismo - Last Wednesday at 2:24 PM
  491. lol
  492. nudel - Last Wednesday at 2:24 PM
  493. what ur trying to turn this discord into, is exactly what the 101 discord is, u'd known that if you actually participating in it lol
  494. Jay - Last Wednesday at 2:24 PM
  495. Exactly
  496. Read Marx - Last Wednesday at 2:25 PM
  497. I'm here because this is an extension, supposedly of the Reddit sub which can be used for mod discussion and to get away from all the goddamn liberals on the sub.(edited)
  498. Derrida's Corbyniser - Last Wednesday at 2:25 PM
  499. yes many of the people who talked about the particular issue the other day (the fuck discussion) are also some of the most active mods wrt moderating chat and bringing up sexism, racism, etc. as well as being the initiators behind the original anti-ableism policy
  500. and are also some of the most active people on 101
  501. comrade mccarthy - Last Wednesday at 2:25 PM
  502. and all were left out of the breakaway
  503. Jay - Last Wednesday at 2:25 PM
  504. I feel like a large part of the problems could be resolved by having two discord links on the sub where you see the r/soc discord, and actually having the people who want to engage with new/learning socialists (like tremble) actually fuckin help out there lmao
  505. nudel - Last Wednesday at 2:26 PM
  506. if you want an open community discord for liberals or people intersted in socialism, then we already have it, its called the 101 discord.
  507. comrade mccarthy - Last Wednesday at 2:26 PM
  508. ^^
  509. The Law 👩🏼⚖ - Last Wednesday at 2:26 PM
  510. ^^^
  511. Read Marx - Last Wednesday at 2:26 PM
  512. ^^^^
  513. Derrida's Corbyniser - Last Wednesday at 2:26 PM
  514. yeah but the people who want that don't participate in it
  515. The Law 👩🏼⚖ - Last Wednesday at 2:26 PM
  516. 101 is a lovely place
  517. Jay - Last Wednesday at 2:26 PM
  518. DC, and some of them are complaining about this discord now :thinking:(edited)
  519. La Morsongona - Last Wednesday at 2:26 PM
  520. I'm glad a could bring this to y'all's attention :smile:
  521. El Tío de Capitalismo - Last Wednesday at 2:26 PM
  522. there is no drama in 101 as well
  523. comrade mccarthy - Last Wednesday at 2:26 PM
  524. thank u morsa
  525. Jay - Last Wednesday at 2:26 PM
  526. hey mors!
  527. The Law 👩🏼⚖ - Last Wednesday at 2:27 PM
  528. Thanks mors!
  529. comrade mccarthy - Last Wednesday at 2:27 PM
  530. LOL KROPO
  531. GOOD POINT
  532. The Law 👩🏼⚖ - Last Wednesday at 2:27 PM
  533. ^
  534. Detroit Red - Last Wednesday at 2:27 PM
  535. @La Morsongona Danke!
  536. Subcomandante DeMarcos - Last Wednesday at 2:27 PM
  537. sup mors
  538. El Tío de Capitalismo - Last Wednesday at 2:27 PM
  539. literally tbh there's been so much drama in this server recently I've just not wanted to participate
  540. I feel like there needs to be better ways to deal with issues, idk what the solution is tho
  541. Byz - Last Wednesday at 2:27 PM
  542. Thanks @La Morsongona ! I've just been sitting back and trying to take this all in.
  543. Revolutions1917 - Last Wednesday at 2:27 PM
  544. i know the feeling
  545. La Morsongona - Last Wednesday at 2:27 PM
  546. @Byz me too, me too
  547. Ragark - Last Wednesday at 2:28 PM
  548. Maybe linking to 101 would be a better idea.
  549. The Law 👩🏼⚖ - Last Wednesday at 2:28 PM
  550. Hi byz
  551. El Tío de Capitalismo - Last Wednesday at 2:28 PM
  552. but callout culture and petty attacks aren't the proper way to fix things
  553. Read Marx - Last Wednesday at 2:28 PM
  554. I'm tired of the fucking liberalism and SocDem worship. It's been a goddamn week, and people are still at the UK channel. When TSF voiced opposition to it, he got thrown in self-crit.
  555. nudel - Last Wednesday at 2:28 PM
  556. @Ragark we are doing that tho????
  557. Mew - Last Wednesday at 2:28 PM
  558. 101 has basically been nudel, Penguin, MD, Kropo, Kreme, DC, enji, Mors, cat, Sis, Lena and me doing 99% of the work (sorry if I missed someone)
  559. gatz - Last Wednesday at 2:28 PM
  560. i agree kropo
  561. wait what do u mean by callout culture
  562. La Morsongona - Last Wednesday at 2:28 PM
  563. And we do link to 101, we have one on /r/soc and we also redirect people there when they're not ready for here. I don't mean to be insulting, but it's amazing how y'all can be mods and not know that.
  564. El Tío de Capitalismo - Last Wednesday at 2:28 PM
  565. like rather than looking to resolve issues just calling people out publicly to shame them @gatz
  566. Byz - Last Wednesday at 2:28 PM
  567. @The Law 👩🏼⚖ Hey Pingu!
  568. nudel - Last Wednesday at 2:29 PM
  569. I literally added the 101 discord to the sidebar of the sub cuz people kept asking about it and coudnt find it, we link to the 101 discord every single time a person comes into this lobby and doesnt have the 5 required posts
  570. gatz - Last Wednesday at 2:29 PM
  571. oh yh i see
  572. nudel - Last Wednesday at 2:29 PM
  573. what are you even talking about
  574. La Morsongona - Last Wednesday at 2:29 PM
  575. ^
  576. Detroit Red - Last Wednesday at 2:29 PM
  577. ^^
  578. The Law 👩🏼⚖ - Last Wednesday at 2:29 PM
  579. ^^^
  580. comrade mccarthy - Last Wednesday at 2:29 PM
  581. in the top 20 list of activity on the discord server, there are 13 current discord moderators. 3 of them were invited to the breakaway server
  582. Jay - Last Wednesday at 2:30 PM
  583. Did yolo marx disappear? I know I found the discord from that, my idea was to split him in half and link 101 there as well
  584. The Law 👩🏼⚖ - Last Wednesday at 2:30 PM
  585. Yolo Marx?
  586. Jay - Last Wednesday at 2:30 PM
  587. on the sub
  588. Revolutions1917 - Last Wednesday at 2:30 PM
  589. RIP Yolo Marx
  590. comrade mccarthy - Last Wednesday at 2:30 PM
  591. yeah yolo marx isnt there
  592. Revolutions1917 - Last Wednesday at 2:30 PM
  593. he's gone
  594. El Tío de Capitalismo - Last Wednesday at 2:30 PM
  595. what is yolo Marx
  596. comrade mccarthy - Last Wednesday at 2:30 PM
  597. its on the sidebar now
  598. Detroit Red - Last Wednesday at 2:30 PM
  599. Omg lmao
  600. Revolutions1917 - Last Wednesday at 2:30 PM
  601. there were some CSS problems IIRC
  602. Detroit Red - Last Wednesday at 2:30 PM
  603. the easter egg
  604. nudel - Last Wednesday at 2:30 PM
  605. people didnt even know yolo marx was a link to the discord
  606. Revolutions1917 - Last Wednesday at 2:30 PM
  607. and the button wouldn't work
  608. Detroit Red - Last Wednesday at 2:30 PM
  609. Yolo Marx is the sidebar's easter egg
  610. The Law 👩🏼⚖ - Last Wednesday at 2:31 PM
  611. Oh I remember yolo marx
  612. Detroit Red - Last Wednesday at 2:31 PM
  613. Or was
  614. nudel - Last Wednesday at 2:31 PM
  615. the amount of times ive had people ask me for the link to the discord
  616. Derrida's Corbyniser - Last Wednesday at 2:31 PM
  617. i've noticed that too
  618. The Law 👩🏼⚖ - Last Wednesday at 2:31 PM
  619. Same
  620. Derrida's Corbyniser - Last Wednesday at 2:31 PM
  621. it is partly why i've never left for a break because so many people have so much trouble finding a link lol
  622. Sanic Hedjehoag - Last Wednesday at 2:31 PM
  623. FUCK I just wrote a gun little list of suggestions and my phone deleted it
  624. Fun*
  625. comrade mccarthy - Last Wednesday at 2:31 PM
  626. gun little list
  627. Sanic Hedjehoag - Last Wednesday at 2:31 PM
  628. I'm never going to moderate again
  629. Jay - Last Wednesday at 2:31 PM
  630. rip
  631. comrade mccarthy - Last Wednesday at 2:31 PM
  632. F
  633. The Law 👩🏼⚖ - Last Wednesday at 2:31 PM
  634. I relate NoCo
  635. I do that a lot
  636. Sanic Hedjehoag - Last Wednesday at 2:32 PM
  637. This is what I get for going out to buy coffee instead of drinking what's at home, it's too bright out to navigate ruptures
  638. Derrida's Corbyniser - Last Wednesday at 2:32 PM
  639. my phone started deleting messages if i tilt a different way
  640. La Morsongona - Last Wednesday at 2:32 PM
  641. @Sanic Hedjehoag lol
  642. The Law 👩🏼⚖ - Last Wednesday at 2:32 PM
  643. Oh no
  644. Derrida's Corbyniser - Last Wednesday at 2:32 PM
  645. pisses me off so much
  646. Read Marx - Last Wednesday at 2:33 PM
  647. Because nobody wants that Starbucks overrated garbage.
  648. Derrida's Corbyniser - Last Wednesday at 2:33 PM
  649. starbucks ain't that bad
  650. The Law 👩🏼⚖ - Last Wednesday at 2:33 PM
  651. I just want coffee tbh
  652. Subcomandante DeMarcos - Last Wednesday at 2:33 PM
  653. starbucks coffee tastes like iron
  654. Derrida's Corbyniser - Last Wednesday at 2:33 PM
  655. (defending mminx in her absence)
  656. Subcomandante DeMarcos - Last Wednesday at 2:33 PM
  657. it sucks and it's overpriced
  658. comrade mccarthy - Last Wednesday at 2:33 PM
  659. minx defense squad
  660. Byz - Last Wednesday at 2:33 PM
  661. I need coffee to live really
  662. The Law 👩🏼⚖ - Last Wednesday at 2:34 PM
  663. I have low standards in coffee
  664. Sanic Hedjehoag - Last Wednesday at 2:34 PM
  665. I didn't go to Starbucks, I went to my local small business (TM)
  666. Read Marx - Last Wednesday at 2:34 PM
  667. I either picked the best or worst time to stop drinking.
  668. nudel - Last Wednesday at 2:34 PM
  669. the worst.
  670. i need a drink
  671. gatz - Last Wednesday at 2:35 PM
  672. this coffee talk has made mesupport the clique server unreservedly(edited)
  673. congrats
  674. so much for the tolerant left
  675. La Morsongona - Last Wednesday at 2:35 PM
  676. Anyways, I think a major problem of what happened with the super secret group is that the three main people leading it were Tremble, Rag, and Anon, and none of y'all really have a good idea on how the moderation of either this discord nor 101 works. Y'all then go and sneak around the moderation team, plan out a new discord, don't really actually know what you want to do, and then don't plan to tell anyone here until the bomb has been made and is ready to detonate. It was an all lose situation.
  677. comrade mccarthy - Last Wednesday at 2:36 PM
  678. i retract the photo of a cat in a harness i sent to u earlir gato
  679. because of this Betrayal.
  680. Read Marx - Last Wednesday at 2:36 PM
  681. Fuckin Trots love their cliques.
  682. gatz - Last Wednesday at 2:36 PM
  683. nooooo
  684. The Law 👩🏼⚖ - Last Wednesday at 2:36 PM
  685. Lol they didn't even invite NoCo
  686. Detroit Red - Last Wednesday at 2:37 PM
  687. ...or Zorrex
  688. or Femi
  689. The Law 👩🏼⚖ - Last Wednesday at 2:37 PM
  690. They invited femi
  691. Detroit Red - Last Wednesday at 2:37 PM
  692. oh
  693. The Law 👩🏼⚖ - Last Wednesday at 2:37 PM
  694. Femi was in that server
  695. Ragark - Last Wednesday at 2:37 PM
  696. We also invited afro, and was going to invite detroit but you were on break
  697. The Law 👩🏼⚖ - Last Wednesday at 2:37 PM
  698. I don't have the list of folks anymore because I left
  699. El Tío de Capitalismo - Last Wednesday at 2:38 PM
  700. the revolution betrayed
  701. The Law 👩🏼⚖ - Last Wednesday at 2:38 PM
  702. No chat mods were invited though
  703. Revolutions1917 - Last Wednesday at 2:38 PM
  704. literally 99% of the outrage could have been avoided if people were open about this from the start
  705. don't get me wrong, there would still be outrage, but it'd be more tempered
  706. Jay - Last Wednesday at 2:38 PM
  707. https://discord.gg/T4SEHm
  708.  
  709. Here is the link to the secret server so everyone will know what has been said. Since we know about it anyway if they want to continue to clique they will leave anyway. Let it be on the record for everyone
  710. INVITE EXPIRED
  711. Derrida's Corbyniser - Last Wednesday at 2:38 PM
  712. >no chat mods
  713. literally PD 2.0 here
  714. comrade mccarthy pinned a message to this channel. See all the pins.Last Wednesday at 2:38 PM
  715. The Law 👩🏼⚖ - Last Wednesday at 2:38 PM
  716. Jay wait
  717. No
  718. Idk if that's a good idea
  719. uvoa - Last Wednesday at 2:39 PM
  720. i keep getting owned by subreddit moderators
  721. Jay - Last Wednesday at 2:39 PM
  722. Why is it not?
  723. I dont want anyone backtracking
  724. The Law 👩🏼⚖ - Last Wednesday at 2:39 PM
  725. @Jay idk it just seems like maybe a bad idea
  726. Derrida's Corbyniser - Last Wednesday at 2:39 PM
  727. it's really funny that that server was made after we talked about this very situation
  728. The Law 👩🏼⚖ - Last Wednesday at 2:39 PM
  729. Fair point though @Jay
  730. Sanic Hedjehoag - Last Wednesday at 2:39 PM
  731. HOT TAKE: What if we just made 101 the official r/soc discord it basically is already and removed this from the sub links
  732. Detroit Red - Last Wednesday at 2:39 PM
  733. @Ragark Break? I left because of the cliquey nonsense. I wasn't planning on returning to this pink/discord mod team. I'm only here because I was told about the secret server and asked to join this conversation.(edited)
  734. El Tío de Capitalismo - Last Wednesday at 2:39 PM
  735. the moderators who lead it obviously didn't care about the problems we brought up @Derrida's Corbyniser
  736. Read Marx - Last Wednesday at 2:40 PM
  737. That link doesn't work on my app.
  738. The Law 👩🏼⚖ - Last Wednesday at 2:40 PM
  739. Is it expired?
  740. La Morsongona - Last Wednesday at 2:40 PM
  741. I would be open with what Noco said, because that's how we've gotten people like Picard. But apparently that's not what the clique wanted. Which, again, is the main problem in this situation.
  742. Conrad Sisyphus - Last Wednesday at 2:40 PM
  743. Lol as if that other server is called r/socialism as well
  744. nudel - Last Wednesday at 2:41 PM
  745. @Sanic Hedjehoag would the people in the clique actually do stuff on the 101 discord then or what?
  746. cuz at this point, its basically the people who were not invited, that does all the work
  747. Revolutions1917 - Last Wednesday at 2:41 PM
  748. okay
  749. Jay - Last Wednesday at 2:41 PM
  750. https://discord.gg/5abag8
  751. INVITE EXPIRED
  752. try this
  753. Read Marx - Last Wednesday at 2:41 PM
  754. No, it takes me to the discord on my phone browser which doesn't work.
  755. Revolutions1917 - Last Wednesday at 2:41 PM
  756. so briefly reading over the server
  757. Ragark - Last Wednesday at 2:41 PM
  758. Probably. I'd stop spending time here and spend it there instead
  759. Jay pinned a message to this channel. See all the pins.Last Wednesday at 2:41 PM
  760. Revolutions1917 - Last Wednesday at 2:41 PM
  761. they were planning on inviting quite a few chat mods
  762. Sanic Hedjehoag - Last Wednesday at 2:41 PM
  763. @nudel I can't make decisions for what other people prioritize
  764. Read Marx - Last Wednesday at 2:42 PM
  765. That link takes me to friends for some reason.
  766. Now it works.
  767. Pos app.
  768. The Law 👩🏼⚖ - Last Wednesday at 2:43 PM
  769. @Revolutions1917 shit were they?
  770. Revolutions1917 - Last Wednesday at 2:44 PM
  771. "quite a few" actually might have been an overstatement
  772. tiff, Jay, enji, myself, Afro were the list of names that were going to be invited from a skim
  773. Derrida's Corbyniser - Last Wednesday at 2:44 PM
  774. like we literally brought up restructuring the server because we felt the divide between how much chat mods put into the discord community vs the sub mods was enough to warrant reducing red mods' role in the moderation of the server, and to make it so that we are empowered to not feel suppressed by sub mods like MSFD again, and the result is a secret server that is meant to "restructure the server" that just happens to not include us chat mods, very very suspicious imo, very very reminiscent of PD
  775. Let Them Tremble - Last Wednesday at 2:44 PM
  776. The reason the conversation was between sub mods is that the decision is partly based around the needs of the sub
  777. Detroit Red - Last Wednesday at 2:45 PM
  778. @The Law 👩🏼⚖ Weren't you in the other server? Why are you asking Rev17?
  779. The Law 👩🏼⚖ - Last Wednesday at 2:45 PM
  780. I left it
  781. Sanic Hedjehoag - Last Wednesday at 2:45 PM
  782. @Detroit Red she said she left
  783. enji - Last Wednesday at 2:45 PM
  784. I am insulted that I was going to be asked to take part in this.
  785. La Morsongona - Last Wednesday at 2:45 PM
  786. But why not involve chat mods? They're members of this community, too, and that's who would be affected by whatever decision was going to be made.
  787. Ragark - Last Wednesday at 2:45 PM
  788. Because she didn't read everything we said
  789. Detroit Red - Last Wednesday at 2:45 PM
  790. My bad, I didn't see that message @The Law 👩🏼⚖
  791. The Law 👩🏼⚖ - Last Wednesday at 2:45 PM
  792. It's ok
  793. Let Them Tremble - Last Wednesday at 2:45 PM
  794. We understand that a new community has grown in this discord, but that community is no longer wholly compatable with the demand for a chat that is linked to the sub
  795. enji - Last Wednesday at 2:45 PM
  796. who is we
  797. Revolutions1917 - Last Wednesday at 2:45 PM
  798. oh, and Nudel, Detroit, Jack, Atrix, Tiak, NoCo, Bone, and Zorrex
  799. enji - Last Wednesday at 2:45 PM
  800. i'm not in it
  801. Let Them Tremble - Last Wednesday at 2:45 PM
  802. And which follows the sub's rules and moderation
  803. enji - Last Wednesday at 2:46 PM
  804. The Discord is literally the banguard of the sub
  805. Derrida's Corbyniser - Last Wednesday at 2:46 PM
  806. enji must not be loyal enough RIP
  807. Detroit Red - Last Wednesday at 2:46 PM
  808. I wouldn't join a server made to go behind people's backs, tbh @Revolutions1917
  809. The Law 👩🏼⚖ - Last Wednesday at 2:46 PM
  810. Enji was going to be asked
  811. Read Marx - Last Wednesday at 2:46 PM
  812. @Revolutions1917, no, they weren't going to invite me.
  813. Let Them Tremble - Last Wednesday at 2:46 PM
  814. It's got nothing to do with loyalty, and everything to do with a desire to serve the sub
  815. nudel - Last Wednesday at 2:46 PM
  816. I guess I wasnt going to get invited either @Read Marx :shrug:
  817. La Morsongona - Last Wednesday at 2:46 PM
  818. But what about us?
  819. Let Them Tremble - Last Wednesday at 2:46 PM
  820. Or not, as may be the case
  821. Like you were all going to be invited, lol
  822. But the thing is
  823. Ragark - Last Wednesday at 2:47 PM
  824. @nudel you were. It was important to me the most active sub mods be a part of this.
  825. Sanic Hedjehoag - Last Wednesday at 2:47 PM
  826. Well I'll be back later and I hope some solutions are agreed upon soon. I'm going to have fun in the great meat space that is nyc.
  827. Let Them Tremble - Last Wednesday at 2:47 PM
  828. This is a separate community now
  829. comrade mccarthy - Last Wednesday at 2:47 PM
  830. bye noco!
  831. nudel - Last Wednesday at 2:47 PM
  832. @Let Them Tremble http://puu.sh/wk5NW/ebd65f9546.png
  833. ???
  834. Detroit Red - Last Wednesday at 2:47 PM
  835. @Sanic Hedjehoag Stay safe!
  836. Let Them Tremble - Last Wednesday at 2:47 PM
  837. Where does that say you weren't going to be invited?
  838. The Law 👩🏼⚖ - Last Wednesday at 2:47 PM
  839. Bye NoCo
  840. Jay - Last Wednesday at 2:47 PM
  841. seeya noco
  842. comrade mccarthy - Last Wednesday at 2:48 PM
  843. yeah i see discussion about getting rid of mods
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  846. nudel - Last Wednesday at 2:48 PM
  847. anon was literalyl talking about forming a new mod team lol
  848. comrade mccarthy - Last Wednesday at 2:48 PM
  849. havent read far enough 2 find what the concl was though
  850. nudel - Last Wednesday at 2:48 PM
  851. with only the people in the clique
  852. Let Them Tremble - Last Wednesday at 2:48 PM
  853. No, not "getting rid"
  854. It's a new server - those who want to stay and mod this one can
  855. comrade mccarthy - Last Wednesday at 2:48 PM
  856. excluding from modding then
  857. is the better phrase
  858. uvoa - Last Wednesday at 2:48 PM
  859. depends on what your definition of "is" is
  860. enji - Last Wednesday at 2:49 PM
  861. us rn: http://ak-hdl.buzzfed.com/static/2015-09/15/3/enhanced/webdr04/anigif_enhanced-6862-1442302259-11.gif
  862. Ragark - Last Wednesday at 2:49 PM
  863. Honestly getting rid of mods might be a good idea regardless of what happens. 33% of the entire discord being mods is too much
  864. Let Them Tremble - Last Wednesday at 2:49 PM
  865. We need a server that is directly linked to the sub, so yes, mod permissions would not be automatic
  866. Read Marx - Last Wednesday at 2:49 PM
  867. Literally the first goddamn thing before being made a mod, before confirmation was asking me if I would abide by dem cent in modding.
  868. comrade mccarthy - Last Wednesday at 2:49 PM
  869. @enji deadass
  870. Read Marx - Last Wednesday at 2:49 PM
  871. Yet, this bullshit happens.
  872. La Morsongona - Last Wednesday at 2:49 PM
  873. Y'all saying you serving everyone in the discord but it's like 5 people making all these decisions
  874. Derrida's Corbyniser - Last Wednesday at 2:49 PM
  875. just a lil downsizing eh, austerity measures and all
  876. Let Them Tremble - Last Wednesday at 2:49 PM
  877. Yes, between sub mods @Read Marx
  878. comrade mccarthy - Last Wednesday at 2:49 PM
  879. a server that is directly linked to the sub with more relaxed rules and less moderators
  880. it is almost like
  881. 101 discord
  882. uvoa - Last Wednesday at 2:49 PM
  883. does anybody actually want this
  884. The Law 👩🏼⚖ - Last Wednesday at 2:49 PM
  885. This is something that should have been discussed here in the first place
  886. El Tío de Capitalismo - Last Wednesday at 2:50 PM
  887. ^
  888. Detroit Red - Last Wednesday at 2:50 PM
  889. ^^
  890. Let Them Tremble - Last Wednesday at 2:50 PM
  891. The thing is, this server is linked from the sub, and yet it's a separate thing
  892. La Morsongona - Last Wednesday at 2:50 PM
  893. This is why 101 exists, what you want is 101
  894. Let Them Tremble - Last Wednesday at 2:50 PM
  895. I'm not happy with that, I don't believe it's serving the sub anymore
  896. El Tío de Capitalismo - Last Wednesday at 2:50 PM
  897. this is literally a discussion we've had before, and yet I don't recall any of the people from that server participating in that discussion
  898. The Law 👩🏼⚖ - Last Wednesday at 2:50 PM
  899. That doesn't mean that it shouldn't have been discussed here
  900. uvoa - Last Wednesday at 2:50 PM
  901. Consider: the sub is terrible and people don't want this to "serve" the subreddit.
  902. The Law 👩🏼⚖ - Last Wednesday at 2:50 PM
  903. @Let Them Tremble we already have 101 which most of who was invited are not active in
  904. Let Them Tremble - Last Wednesday at 2:51 PM
  905. Why? The decision was based in the needs of the sub and was being discussed by those who shared goals for the sub
  906. With a view to inviting everyone
  907. Detroit Red - Last Wednesday at 2:51 PM
  908. And honestly, the main sub needs to be drastically improved before this server becomes more closely attached to it. Many of the users on the main sub don't give a fuck about People of Colour
  909. Read Marx - Last Wednesday at 2:51 PM
  910. Yes, but a server founded by a clique of the sub mods, not the entire team is explicitly violating dem cent. So either you don't actually want dem cent or dem cent is fucking useless.
  911.  
  912. Detroit Red - Last Wednesday at 2:51 PM
  913. Confederate apologia in comments sections
  914. class reductionism
  915. uvoa - Last Wednesday at 2:51 PM
  916. the subreddit sucks Tremble, why do we want to serve it
  917. Let Them Tremble - Last Wednesday at 2:52 PM
  918. Exactly
  919. comrade mccarthy - Last Wednesday at 2:52 PM
  920. many of the users on the discord dont give a fuck about poc either @Detroit Red :eyes:
  921. uvoa - Last Wednesday at 2:52 PM
  922. ????????
  923. Detroit Red - Last Wednesday at 2:52 PM
  924. @comrade mccarthy true
  925. Let Them Tremble - Last Wednesday at 2:52 PM
  926. And you're free to believe that
  927. Jay - Last Wednesday at 2:52 PM
  928. Wow
  929. Read Marx - Last Wednesday at 2:52 PM
  930. @Detroit Red, yeah, but when I suggest a harder line on this kind of shit, it gets slapped down.
  931. uvoa - Last Wednesday at 2:52 PM
  932. alright Precursor
  933. comrade mccarthy - Last Wednesday at 2:52 PM
  934. if you're making a new server tremble will you give the server ownership of this one to enji?
  935. Derrida's Corbyniser - Last Wednesday at 2:52 PM
  936. we have to tell people not to be racist all the time even here
  937. Let Them Tremble - Last Wednesday at 2:52 PM
  938. You're free to build your own community to address whatever deficiencies you see in the sub
  939. But I'm interested in building and improving the sub
  940. Read Marx - Last Wednesday at 2:52 PM
  941. Good fucking lord, it's not improving.
  942. Detroit Red - Last Wednesday at 2:52 PM
  943. It's getting worse if anything
  944. La Morsongona - Last Wednesday at 2:53 PM
  945. Improving the sub should be done within the sub, not affecting us here
  946. nudel - Last Wednesday at 2:53 PM
  947. I mean lovely isnt the only one who sees these deficiencies in the sub
  948. Let Them Tremble - Last Wednesday at 2:53 PM
  949. I mean that's the point of trying to improve it
  950. The Law 👩🏼⚖ - Last Wednesday at 2:53 PM
  951. Yeah lovely isn't alone
  952. Detroit Red - Last Wednesday at 2:53 PM
  953. I don't post there because I don't feel welcome...and from speaking with other non-white people...I'm not alone in saying that /r/s is a shithole(edited)
  954. La Morsongona - Last Wednesday at 2:53 PM
  955. But here doesn't need improvement in regards to what the sub needs
  956. Let Them Tremble - Last Wednesday at 2:53 PM
  957. Yeah that's why it's separate
  958. Derrida's Corbyniser - Last Wednesday at 2:53 PM
  959. i 0% blame you detroit
  960. The Law 👩🏼⚖ - Last Wednesday at 2:53 PM
  961. ^
  962. comrade mccarthy - Last Wednesday at 2:54 PM
  963. lol if making r/s a space more welcoming to poc was one of their concerns i think they'd have invited more than a single poc @Detroit Red
  964. Read Marx - Last Wednesday at 2:54 PM
  965. These half measures don't do shit, and fuck actual socialists over.
  966. The Law 👩🏼⚖ - Last Wednesday at 2:54 PM
  967. They invited Afro too @comrade mccarthy
  968. enji - Last Wednesday at 2:54 PM
  969. Discord servers for subs are always more cozy than their subs
  970. comrade mccarthy - Last Wednesday at 2:54 PM
  971. two poc
  972. enji - Last Wednesday at 2:54 PM
  973. In that respect our Discord is doing a p good job
  974. The Law 👩🏼⚖ - Last Wednesday at 2:54 PM
  975. Yeah again not enough
  976. La Morsongona - Last Wednesday at 2:54 PM
  977. So what did you plan on doing, making a /r/soc 2.0, and leaving this one to exist?
  978. enji - Last Wednesday at 2:54 PM
  979. Like I said
  980. Derrida's Corbyniser - Last Wednesday at 2:54 PM
  981. the sub is not welcoming at all for minorities, but we try v hard to make it here (it is not there yet tbh)
  982. enji - Last Wednesday at 2:54 PM
  983. It's literally the Banguard
  984. comrade mccarthy - Last Wednesday at 2:54 PM
  985. i feel the same way DC
  986. i think we are making good improvements here about it too
  987. Read Marx - Last Wednesday at 2:55 PM
  988. Nudel, Detroit and I notice the sub sliding down.
  989. Derrida's Corbyniser - Last Wednesday at 2:55 PM
  990. well the sub is growing
  991. Let Them Tremble - Last Wednesday at 2:55 PM
  992. Again, that's a community addressing the deficiencies of the sub, that is now separate from the sub
  993. Read Marx - Last Wednesday at 2:55 PM
  994. Brezhnevites clown on it all the time. Goddamn Brezhnevites.
  995. Derrida's Corbyniser - Last Wednesday at 2:55 PM
  996. so it's going to start to go down the drain no matter what
  997.  
  998. Let Them Tremble - Last Wednesday at 2:55 PM
  999. Lol
  1000. Well that's not a position I hold
  1001. Detroit Red - Last Wednesday at 2:56 PM
  1002. @Read Marx Can't blame em, tbh
  1003. Let Them Tremble - Last Wednesday at 2:56 PM
  1004. I want a good sub, with good content, using the rules that the mods put a lot of effort into
  1005. uvoa - Last Wednesday at 2:56 PM
  1006. It is INCREDIBLY frustrating seeing the EXACT same talking points from Tremble that I had to deal with when Reddit moderators unilaterally blocked me out of moderating PD. You are making a decision not to MAKE THE SUBREDDIT better, but MAKE DISCORD WORSE. That's what you are doing and I have a strong feeling you know, it's just that you would rather the community fall apart than admit that you are making bad decisions.
  1007. 👏12
  1008. Let Them Tremble - Last Wednesday at 2:56 PM
  1009. It's not about "worse"
  1010. uvoa - Last Wednesday at 2:56 PM
  1011. holy shit nevermind
  1012. El Tío de Capitalismo - Last Wednesday at 2:57 PM
  1013. the outcome soudns like it is going to be worse
  1014. gatz - Last Wednesday at 2:57 PM
  1015. uvie did the friggin thatcherite block u out of pd
  1016. uvoa - Last Wednesday at 2:57 PM
  1017. yes
  1018. gatz - Last Wednesday at 2:57 PM
  1019. jesus
  1020. El Tío de Capitalismo - Last Wednesday at 2:57 PM
  1021. if you want a discord representative of the sub, it sounds like a shitty discord
  1022. Let Them Tremble - Last Wednesday at 2:57 PM
  1023. It's about this server being an accumulation of old moderator's policies and appointments
  1024. Derrida's Corbyniser - Last Wednesday at 2:57 PM
  1025. here is my logic:
  1026. 1. as a sub grows, it has more subscribers
  1027. 2. subscribers are redditors
  1028. 3. redditors are terrible
  1029. therefore, sub growth is directly correlated with terribleness
  1030. Read Marx - Last Wednesday at 2:57 PM
  1031. @Detroit Red, shit, I'll take a Brezhnevite over the average soc user, that's how bad it is.
  1032. 😩2
  1033. Let Them Tremble - Last Wednesday at 2:57 PM
  1034. And therefore it has gone through its own distinct evolution
  1035. Read Marx - Last Wednesday at 2:58 PM
  1036. You keep talking down to chat and sub mods.
  1037. La Morsongona - Last Wednesday at 2:58 PM
  1038. So if you want new moderation policies, why is it that you choose a whole bunch of white people minus one person to create these new policies. Why is it that you chose a small group to make new policies. Why not consult the rest of the community here, people you know are committed to making people feel welcome and accepted.
  1039. 👍5
  1040. Jay - Last Wednesday at 2:58 PM
  1041. I still want to know what these old moderator policies and appointments that you have a problem with are tremble(edited)
  1042. Let Them Tremble - Last Wednesday at 2:58 PM
  1043. How? @Read Marx
  1044. Jay - Last Wednesday at 2:58 PM
  1045. since you keep saying this without actually giving examples
  1046. 👏🏾6
  1047. La Morsongona - Last Wednesday at 2:58 PM
  1048. Because we don't exist to you, you're leaving us out in the dust
  1049. It's all redmods
  1050. Let Them Tremble - Last Wednesday at 2:59 PM
  1051. Old moderators chose to appoint chat mods without consensus sometimes - I have a problem with that
  1052. El Tío de Capitalismo - Last Wednesday at 2:59 PM
  1053. it's kind of a constant issue among the redmods
  1054. La Morsongona - Last Wednesday at 2:59 PM
  1055. LOL
  1056. Let Them Tremble - Last Wednesday at 2:59 PM
  1057. The catgirls catastrophe was argued about passionately in this discord
  1058. El Tío de Capitalismo - Last Wednesday at 2:59 PM
  1059. catgirlstastrophe*
  1060. comrade mccarthy - Last Wednesday at 2:59 PM
  1061. catgirlstastrophe
  1062. Derrida's Corbyniser - Last Wednesday at 2:59 PM
  1063. i think we are operating on two different definitions of inviting, wrt making te discord inviting to sub members. eiter 1) inviting means allowing more people in, wich means some relaxation of current moderation, or 2) it means reinforcing the current moderation in order to make oppressed minorites feel more at home here
  1064. El Tío de Capitalismo - Last Wednesday at 3:00 PM
  1065. @comrade mccarthy same level
  1066. comrade mccarthy - Last Wednesday at 3:00 PM
  1067. hell ys
  1068. Let Them Tremble - Last Wednesday at 3:00 PM
  1069. Were those drawings part of a broader structure of oppression and have oppressive elements? Yes. Was moderation the best course of action? Hell no!
  1070. El Tío de Capitalismo - Last Wednesday at 3:00 PM
  1071. sounds like a problem with the sub moderation lol
  1072. Let Them Tremble - Last Wednesday at 3:00 PM
  1073. It brought an absolute shit storm down on our heads
  1074. comrade mccarthy - Last Wednesday at 3:00 PM
  1075. LTT give server ownership 2 enji
  1076. Jay - Last Wednesday at 3:00 PM
  1077. Wasnt the catgirls thing a sub issue? lmao
  1078. Revolutions1917 - Last Wednesday at 3:00 PM
  1079. and now we'll forever be known as the sub that banned catgirls
  1080. lol
  1081. Let Them Tremble - Last Wednesday at 3:00 PM
  1082. @comrade mccarthy No, not yet
  1083. uvoa - Last Wednesday at 3:00 PM
  1084. yes
  1085. Detroit Red - Last Wednesday at 3:00 PM
  1086. @Jay It was, iirc
  1087. Jay - Last Wednesday at 3:01 PM
  1088. So how is it relevant?
  1089. El Tío de Capitalismo - Last Wednesday at 3:01 PM
  1090. why not?
  1091. Read Marx - Last Wednesday at 3:01 PM
  1092. Also, the discussion yesterday, you said something along the lines of "I've got to go actually help build a mass movement now", slapping down proposals to crack down hard on the liberalism and SocDem and now this conversation.
  1093. Derrida's Corbyniser - Last Wednesday at 3:01 PM
  1094. yes
  1095. Let Them Tremble - Last Wednesday at 3:01 PM
  1096. Nothing's happening until this is resolved
  1097. uvoa - Last Wednesday at 3:01 PM
  1098. doesnt matter
  1099. El Tío de Capitalismo - Last Wednesday at 3:01 PM
  1100. well you obviously don't want to resolve it lol
  1101. comrade mccarthy - Last Wednesday at 3:01 PM
  1102. its resolved, you dont want this to be the rsoc server anymore
  1103. Let Them Tremble - Last Wednesday at 3:01 PM
  1104. Lol
  1105. uvoa - Last Wednesday at 3:01 PM
  1106. you dont care about a resolution
  1107. theres no "resolving" this if you obviously do not care about a word we say
  1108. Derrida's Corbyniser - Last Wednesday at 3:01 PM
  1109. the secret server is the resolution
  1110. comrade mccarthy - Last Wednesday at 3:02 PM
  1111. ^
  1112. Let Them Tremble - Last Wednesday at 3:02 PM
  1113. I do care, which is why I'm not deleting this server
  1114. uvoa - Last Wednesday at 3:02 PM
  1115. lol
  1116. comrade mccarthy - Last Wednesday at 3:02 PM
  1117. if you are serious about just letting this server continue, give modship to enji and go to your new one
  1118. Read Marx - Last Wednesday at 3:02 PM
  1119. Khrushchev secret speech part 2.
  1120. uvoa - Last Wednesday at 3:02 PM
  1121. delete the server
  1122. Let Them Tremble - Last Wednesday at 3:02 PM
  1123. Again, no - not yet
  1124. La Morsongona - Last Wednesday at 3:02 PM
  1125. You've chosen to delete the server (or rather, let it languish and die) in deciding to make another one
  1126. enji - Last Wednesday at 3:02 PM
  1127. Tremble
  1128. Jay - Last Wednesday at 3:02 PM
  1129. shit we can even send people who dont pass vetting to your server so you grow
  1130. enji - Last Wednesday at 3:02 PM
  1131. It's literally named r/Socialism
  1132. It has an iron-curtain
  1133. Let Them Tremble - Last Wednesday at 3:03 PM
  1134. Yes
  1135. @La Morsongona
  1136. oops
  1137. enji - Last Wednesday at 3:03 PM
  1138. this ain't an affinity group. it's the prefiguration of a replacement
  1139. Read Marx - Last Wednesday at 3:03 PM
  1140. Demod yourself.
  1141. enji - Last Wednesday at 3:03 PM
  1142. oh and by the way
  1143. Let Them Tremble - Last Wednesday at 3:03 PM
  1144. @La Morsongona Not languish and die - those who don't like a server being linked to the sub could find a niche and a way to propagate it
  1145. enji - Last Wednesday at 3:03 PM
  1146. this isn't the first time replacement servers have been made (edit: behind peeps' backs)(edited)
  1147. Detroit Red - Last Wednesday at 3:04 PM
  1148. It most certainly isn't...
  1149. The Law 👩🏼⚖ - Last Wednesday at 3:04 PM
  1150. this happened a while ago
  1151. La Morsongona - Last Wednesday at 3:04 PM
  1152. A way to propogate it? You know that means languish and die. That's what's happened with all /r/soc break offs and that's what would continue to happen, including in this server.
  1153. enji - Last Wednesday at 3:04 PM
  1154. in fact
  1155. that's what this was
  1156. Let Them Tremble - Last Wednesday at 3:04 PM
  1157. If the server is important in its own right, it can stand on its own two feet
  1158. enji - Last Wednesday at 3:05 PM
  1159. it can
  1160. Let Them Tremble - Last Wednesday at 3:05 PM
  1161. I'm not happy with this server being linked on the sub
  1162. enji - Last Wednesday at 3:05 PM
  1163. stop chaining it
  1164. Mew - Last Wednesday at 3:05 PM
  1165. You could even have this as the soc veteran discord and whatever the server y'all want to make as soc light or diet soc or whatever.
  1166. El Tío de Capitalismo - Last Wednesday at 3:05 PM
  1167. /r/dietsoc
  1168. Revolutions1917 - Last Wednesday at 3:05 PM
  1169. /r/soczero
  1170. uvoa - Last Wednesday at 3:05 PM
  1171. just give server admin to enji and end this lol
  1172. 👌5
  1173. this is a waste of time
  1174. comrade mccarthy - Last Wednesday at 3:06 PM
  1175. i agree w uvie
  1176. El Tío de Capitalismo - Last Wednesday at 3:06 PM
  1177. ok here's the plan - we release new soc, let it sit for a few months, everyone hates it, and then bring this server back as "soc classic"
  1178. Revolutions1917 - Last Wednesday at 3:06 PM
  1179. ^^^
  1180. Detroit Red - Last Wednesday at 3:06 PM
  1181. ^^^^
  1182. comrade mccarthy - Last Wednesday at 3:06 PM
  1183. YES kropo
  1184. Byz - Last Wednesday at 3:06 PM
  1185. lmao
  1186. Jay - Last Wednesday at 3:06 PM
  1187. hell even stay on the modteam but you dont need to run a server that you want to destroy
  1188. Let Them Tremble - Last Wednesday at 3:06 PM
  1189. I don't
  1190. Hence why it's not destroyed
  1191. comrade mccarthy - Last Wednesday at 3:06 PM
  1192. why are you still here tho
  1193. uvoa - Last Wednesday at 3:06 PM
  1194. you're so generous
  1195. comrade mccarthy - Last Wednesday at 3:06 PM
  1196. what is the point of the convo now
  1197. uvoa - Last Wednesday at 3:06 PM
  1198. thanks for not deleting our server
  1199. enji - Last Wednesday at 3:07 PM
  1200. but Jay
  1201. if there's going to be a new server
  1202. there's going to be a new invite
  1203. and then the fight will be hashed out in #nomen or modmail
  1204. Let Them Tremble - Last Wednesday at 3:08 PM
  1205. Anyway, to conclude. I'll hand the server over when the new one is up and running. There is no reason that we couldn't have maintained a friendly relationship between the two, if that's what you wanted. I want a server that serves the space its actually named after
  1206. enji - Last Wednesday at 3:08 PM
  1207. probably nomen because comet would get involved if he saw it
  1208. Let Them Tremble - Last Wednesday at 3:08 PM
  1209. Bye
  1210. uvoa - Last Wednesday at 3:08 PM
  1211. just do it now
  1212. comrade mccarthy - Last Wednesday at 3:08 PM
  1213. LTT do it now
  1214. Detroit Red - Last Wednesday at 3:08 PM
  1215. lol ffs
  1216. uvoa - Last Wednesday at 3:08 PM
  1217. stop holding it hostage because you are a total child
  1218. and cant admit your own fault
  1219. Detroit Red - Last Wednesday at 3:08 PM
  1220. @Let Them Tremble Just do it now, Tremble
  1221. comrade mccarthy - Last Wednesday at 3:08 PM
  1222. shes got a mass movement to build
  1223. Jay - Last Wednesday at 3:08 PM
  1224. mass movement where shes the dictator
  1225. enji - Last Wednesday at 3:09 PM
  1226. prediction:
  1227. uvoa - Last Wednesday at 3:09 PM
  1228. god you're friggin horrible, a real counterpart to MSFD if ive ever seen
  1229. enji - Last Wednesday at 3:09 PM
  1230. i will be demodded before the weekend(edited)
  1231. comrade mccarthy - Last Wednesday at 3:09 PM
  1232. seriously
  1233. do we want to tell reg users about whats going on?
  1234. uvoa - Last Wednesday at 3:09 PM
  1235. completely and totally infallable and full of yourself
  1236. Mew - Last Wednesday at 3:09 PM
  1237. one half of that conversation should have just been delivered as a text document tbh
  1238. Revolutions1917 - Last Wednesday at 3:09 PM
  1239. thats going a little far
  1240. gatz - Last Wednesday at 3:09 PM
  1241. imo delete the new one and focus on 101
  1242. comrade mccarthy - Last Wednesday at 3:10 PM
  1243. ^
  1244. Mew - Last Wednesday at 3:10 PM
  1245. ^
  1246. La Morsongona - Last Wednesday at 3:10 PM
  1247. ^
  1248. comrade mccarthy - Last Wednesday at 3:10 PM
  1249. if thats the space you want just make that the server discord
  1250. uvoa - Last Wednesday at 3:10 PM
  1251. im just pissed off that ive had to deal with this TWICE in like 3 months time
  1252. i am VERY TIRED of this sort of thing
  1253. makes me want to just pack up and leave and just idle on video game discords
  1254. Detroit Red - Last Wednesday at 3:10 PM
  1255. Such a pappy show
  1256. uvoa - Last Wednesday at 3:11 PM
  1257. at least then the worst i'll have to deal with is somebody typing @everyone
  1258. enji - Last Wednesday at 3:11 PM
  1259. first tragedy
  1260. then farce
  1261. THEN
  1262. pappyshow
  1263. El Tío de Capitalismo - Last Wednesday at 3:11 PM
  1264. F
  1265. Byz - Last Wednesday at 3:12 PM
  1266. What's a pappy show?
  1267. Derrida's Corbyniser - Last Wednesday at 3:12 PM
  1268. so the level we are at is "i haven't broke it on purpose yet"
  1269. enji - Last Wednesday at 3:12 PM
  1270. an absolute mess
  1271. fuckry
  1272. Read Marx - Last Wednesday at 3:12 PM
  1273. Reassuring, ain't it?
  1274. Byz - Last Wednesday at 3:12 PM
  1275. Fits well then.
  1276. comrade mccarthy - Last Wednesday at 3:12 PM
  1277. she refuses to give up server ownership probably because she has a feeling the new socialism server is gonna fail
  1278. either way i am so annoyed & tired
  1279. Detroit Red - Last Wednesday at 3:12 PM
  1280. @comrade mccarthy Ah, insurance then?
  1281. comrade mccarthy - Last Wednesday at 3:12 PM
  1282. thats my guess
  1283. enji - Last Wednesday at 3:12 PM
  1284. you know what i can't wait for
  1285. this to blow up in nomen
  1286. uvoa - Last Wednesday at 3:13 PM
  1287. yes probably going to just retroactively remove all of us from this mod team and just turn this server into the new "/r/soc" server
  1288. nudel - Last Wednesday at 3:13 PM
  1289. idk, I feel like the convo about the direction of the server and all that is something that should be had, I Think its interesting, I just find it really fucking petty to create a clique server like that, going behind other peoples backs.
  1290. uvoa - Last Wednesday at 3:13 PM
  1291. actually im calling it right now
  1292. Read Marx - Last Wednesday at 3:13 PM
  1293. Oh, it probably is, @enji.
  1294. La Morsongona - Last Wednesday at 3:13 PM
  1295. Well, if the clique's mind is made and this is going to happen, and the clique has shown a lack of care for the majority of redmod and pinkmod opinions, and a total lack of care for any non-mods, I think that this news should be made heard in general.
  1296. Detroit Red - Last Wednesday at 3:13 PM
  1297. ^^
  1298. The Law 👩🏼⚖ - Last Wednesday at 3:13 PM
  1299. @nudel i agree its def a convo to be had but it should have been done here
  1300. Derrida's Corbyniser - Last Wednesday at 3:13 PM
  1301. it would kill the new server to break away from the establised community, it would work much better to remove/ban dissenters from here
  1302. Read Marx - Last Wednesday at 3:14 PM
  1303. It's tremble's job to tell them, @La Morsongona. See how that goes over.
  1304. uvoa - Last Wednesday at 3:14 PM
  1305. im gonna go play ff14 and have fun with countdown to the new expansion clock for tomorrow
  1306. comrade mccarthy - Last Wednesday at 3:14 PM
  1307. we might as well tell them now
  1308. uvoa - Last Wednesday at 3:14 PM
  1309. message me if ltt bans me or something
  1310. Read Marx - Last Wednesday at 3:14 PM
  1311. @nudel, it really is petty.
  1312. comrade mccarthy - Last Wednesday at 3:14 PM
  1313. i will
  1314. Jay - Last Wednesday at 3:14 PM
  1315. hope you have fun uvie
  1316. Byz - Last Wednesday at 3:15 PM
  1317. @uvoa Have fun!
  1318. La Morsongona - Last Wednesday at 3:15 PM
  1319. @Read Marx I was thinking it's probably better to tell them before the clique is able to, just because I don't want them to be struck by it and then automatically have to go with the flow. The non-mods should have a voice, too.
  1320. Ragark - Last Wednesday at 3:15 PM
  1321. This was a valuable discussion
  1322. Read Marx - Last Wednesday at 3:15 PM
  1323. I have a feeling I'll be removed as a sub mod too because of this shit.
  1324. uvoa - Last Wednesday at 3:15 PM
  1325. i thought i was just banned thanks a lot byz
  1326. La Morsongona - Last Wednesday at 3:15 PM
  1327. This discussion was valuable for y'all, not for us
  1328. enji - Last Wednesday at 3:15 PM
  1329. guess we're not doing it JUST this moment
  1330. Derrida's Corbyniser - Last Wednesday at 3:15 PM
  1331. lol
  1332. nudel - Last Wednesday at 3:15 PM
  1333. @Read Marx i feel ya
  1334. comrade mccarthy - Last Wednesday at 3:15 PM
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  1336. 20.79 KB
  1337. important announcemnt
  1338. Derrida's Corbyniser - Last Wednesday at 3:15 PM
  1339. loooool
  1340. Byz - Last Wednesday at 3:16 PM
  1341. lmao sorry Uvie!
  1342. Mew - Last Wednesday at 3:16 PM
  1343. probably the best exchange of the discussion tbh
  1344. Screen_Shot_2017-06-14_at_10.13.26_PM.jpg
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  1346. comrade mccarthy - Last Wednesday at 3:16 PM
  1347. hahahahah
  1348. enji imo go ahead and do it now
  1349. La Morsongona - Last Wednesday at 3:16 PM
  1350. @enji would you want to make an Achtung?
  1351. Jay - Last Wednesday at 3:16 PM
  1352. lmfao
  1353. enji - Last Wednesday at 3:16 PM
  1354. alright
  1355. Ragark - Last Wednesday at 3:16 PM
  1356. What do you mean it wasn't valuable for you? You got to attack those you disagree with, make black and white statements, and think the worst of us.
  1357. La Morsongona - Last Wednesday at 3:16 PM
  1358. Incredible
  1359. ABsolutely incredible
  1360. Detroit Red - Last Wednesday at 3:16 PM
  1361. @Ragark Oh come on
  1362. Jay - Last Wednesday at 3:16 PM
  1363. go for it, she completely left and ignored the conversation
  1364. Read Marx - Last Wednesday at 3:16 PM
  1365. Like everyone below tremble on the mod team who disagreed is probably getting removed, @nudel.
  1366. Mew - Last Wednesday at 3:17 PM
  1367. I think people think that y'all broke away to make a decision for everyone... which is what happened.
  1368. ⬆4
  1369. Ragark - Last Wednesday at 3:17 PM
  1370. Que 100x build a mass movement quips
  1371. Mew - Last Wednesday at 3:17 PM
  1372. If that's "thinking the worst" then it's on y'all 100%
  1373. nudel - Last Wednesday at 3:17 PM
  1374. idk, the fact that you make this shit about you
  1375. is so fucking ridicoulus
  1376. Ragark - Last Wednesday at 3:17 PM
  1377. You think she's gonna hold it for insurance
  1378. nudel - Last Wednesday at 3:17 PM
  1379. I cant even explain it rn
  1380. liek fuck, how do you not see you guys literalyl caused this
  1381. Ragark - Last Wednesday at 3:17 PM
  1382. Literally "she must be evil" thinking
  1383. nudel - Last Wednesday at 3:17 PM
  1384. with ur fucking clique server
  1385. uvoa - Last Wednesday at 3:17 PM
  1386. then why isnt she giving it over hmmmmmm
  1387. comrade mccarthy - Last Wednesday at 3:17 PM
  1388. no one is saying shes evil we're saying she's petty
  1389. uvoa - Last Wednesday at 3:17 PM
  1390. big thought here
  1391. Detroit Red - Last Wednesday at 3:17 PM
  1392. @Ragark Who said that she was "evil"?
  1393. nudel - Last Wednesday at 3:18 PM
  1394. like this is the most petty shit since I finished high school
  1395. comrade mccarthy - Last Wednesday at 3:18 PM
  1396. at least thats all im saying
  1397. Detroit Red - Last Wednesday at 3:18 PM
  1398. ^^^
  1399. Read Marx - Last Wednesday at 3:18 PM
  1400. You can get lost with that bullshit, ragark.
  1401. La Morsongona - Last Wednesday at 3:18 PM
  1402. The vast majority of people don't agree with what's happening, that's what's causing this situation. Not us be quippy.
  1403. Ragark - Last Wednesday at 3:18 PM
  1404. Whatever lets you think the worst of others
  1405. La Morsongona - Last Wednesday at 3:18 PM
  1406. We're not trying to make y'all out to be monsters. There's venting going on, that's for sure, but y'all made a desicion for literally everyone else.
  1407. Mew - Last Wednesday at 3:18 PM
  1408. Sanctimoniousness is also one of my pet peeves btw
  1409. Ragark - Last Wednesday at 3:18 PM
  1410. She's keeping it cause until a new server is built, this is still the r/soc discord
  1411. Jay - Last Wednesday at 3:19 PM
  1412. she does not want to be a part of this server(edited)
  1413. comrade mccarthy - Last Wednesday at 3:19 PM
  1414. tremble: (does something bad)
  1415. us: thats bad
  1416. ragark: Whatever lets you think the worst of others
  1417. uvoa - Last Wednesday at 3:19 PM
  1418. listen mccarthy...........youre bein mean
  1419. Jay - Last Wednesday at 3:19 PM
  1420. so why does she need ownership of it?
  1421. Derrida's Corbyniser - Last Wednesday at 3:19 PM
  1422. people are quipping and venting but i can't pretend being upset is not justified either
  1423. Mew - Last Wednesday at 3:20 PM
  1424. I can chill for a second to say that I don't think it's fair that Crumbly, Ragark, and Unknown are being put in a position to play clean up when Tremble provokes a dozen people by condescending to them and not engaging with what they're saying at all(edited)
  1425. The Law 👩🏼⚖ - Last Wednesday at 3:20 PM
  1426. I don't want to dump this on them
  1427. Read Marx - Last Wednesday at 3:21 PM
  1428. It's not fair to them, but ragark is defending this shit right now.
  1429. Mew - Last Wednesday at 3:21 PM
  1430. For sure bone
  1431. Read Marx - Last Wednesday at 3:22 PM
  1432. It's not fair especially for the chat mods, who do more work on the discord than red mods.
  1433. Detroit Red - Last Wednesday at 3:22 PM
  1434. On both discords to boot
  1435. La Morsongona - Last Wednesday at 3:23 PM
  1436. ^
  1437. Detroit Red - Last Wednesday at 3:23 PM
  1438. This and 101
  1439. nudel - Last Wednesday at 3:23 PM
  1440. ok like
  1441. at this point, I dont give a fuck about this discord
  1442. but the 101 discord
  1443. Read Marx - Last Wednesday at 3:24 PM
  1444. Like, I barely know how to do shit on discord and I'm sorry. I'm here as a mod of the sub discord to interact with other sub mods and chill people from the community.
  1445. La Morsongona - Last Wednesday at 3:24 PM
  1446. Tremble indicated that their were problems with moderation here which leads to the creation of the new server. I agree that there are moderation problems here. One of those being, pretending to make a more inclusive general committee, while keeping the central committee full of white nonsense. Those are the kind of things that need to be fixed and won't be fixed with whatever new scheme the click is going to implement.
  1447. nudel - Last Wednesday at 3:24 PM
  1448. cuz Im pretty not a single person from the clique discord, has ever said a single word in the 101 discord like ever
  1449. while the rest of us has literally made that discord what it is today
  1450. the ones that want an open community linked to the sub, is the ones that dont do shit in the actual 101 discord
  1451. uvoa - Last Wednesday at 3:25 PM
  1452. unknown.png
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  1454. unknown.png
  1455. 7.32 KB
  1456. big difference
  1457. nudel - Last Wednesday at 3:26 PM
  1458. and im not even
  1459. the most active one in there
  1460. uvoa - Last Wednesday at 3:26 PM
  1461. unknown.png
  1462. 4.66 KB
  1463. 😂5
  1464. nudel - Last Wednesday at 3:26 PM
  1465. compared to people like doggo, pingu and morse(edited)
  1466. The Law 👩🏼⚖ - Last Wednesday at 3:26 PM
  1467. im too active ngl
  1468. Mew - Last Wednesday at 3:26 PM
  1469. I'm also hopeful for the 101 discord community growing, and it's starting to have regular shitposting and memery and that's encouraging
  1470. but it wouldn't have grown if several mods hadn't been putting in work to make it what it is now
  1471. The Law 👩🏼⚖ - Last Wednesday at 3:26 PM
  1472. i agree meali
  1473. Mew - Last Wednesday at 3:26 PM
  1474. because I see the utility in scooping up newbies
  1475. nudel - Last Wednesday at 3:26 PM
  1476. like, what ur trying to acomplish with this new r/soc discord, is exactly what the 101 discord is, but you have no idea cuz you dont participate in it
  1477. Revolutions1917 - Last Wednesday at 3:27 PM
  1478. Capture.PNG
  1479. 5.97 KB
  1480. 😮6
  1481. Mew - Last Wednesday at 3:28 PM
  1482. it sounds like they're proposing 101, but not focused on educating, and without the most active mods in that community... or this server with lower standards
  1483. comrade mccarthy - Last Wednesday at 3:28 PM
  1484. :rofl:
  1485. i talk a lot
  1486. Revolutions1917 - Last Wednesday at 3:33 PM
  1487. i'm seriously considering leaving the mod-team rn i'm not gonna lie
  1488. if this petty BS is gonna continue I'm not sure I wanna be part of Tremble's "project" anymore
  1489. The Law 👩🏼⚖ - Last Wednesday at 3:33 PM
  1490. ive thought about it
  1491. enji - Last Wednesday at 3:33 PM
  1492. phew
  1493. could have written it better
  1494. Jay - Last Wednesday at 3:33 PM
  1495. Don't let her run you out of here
  1496. The Law 👩🏼⚖ - Last Wednesday at 3:34 PM
  1497. is anon the server owner
  1498. of the new one
  1499. Jay - Last Wednesday at 3:34 PM
  1500. Tremble is
  1501. Byz - Last Wednesday at 3:34 PM
  1502. @enji You did great!
  1503. The Law 👩🏼⚖ - Last Wednesday at 3:34 PM
  1504. ok
  1505. im only asking because anon was the one who invited me
  1506. Jay - Last Wednesday at 3:34 PM
  1507. OH
  1508. the new one
  1509. I think someone said anon is
  1510. Read Marx - Last Wednesday at 3:35 PM
  1511. I kinda don't want to be here anymore, save for a few people.
  1512. The Law 👩🏼⚖ - Last Wednesday at 3:35 PM
  1513. yeah i meant th enew one
  1514. yeah same, a few folks are cool
  1515. Read Marx - Last Wednesday at 3:35 PM
  1516. I would like to still mod the sub, but what has happened has soured my views of a lot of people.
  1517. La Morsongona - Last Wednesday at 3:36 PM
  1518. I think y'all should stay at least until whatever happens happens
  1519. Subcomandante DeMarcos - Last Wednesday at 3:45 PM
  1520. :lol: :ok_hand:
  1521. El Tío de Capitalismo - Last Wednesday at 3:45 PM
  1522. petty internet fighting to the max
  1523. so is there any idea what's goign to happen in /r/soc_101?
  1524. uvoa - Last Wednesday at 3:47 PM
  1525. most of us have no idea about anything
  1526. La Morsongona - Last Wednesday at 3:47 PM
  1527. Probably nothing since the clique doesn't know it exists
  1528. uvoa - Last Wednesday at 3:47 PM
  1529. Tremble was pretty vague about just about anything that wasnt suggesting that "we're bad for the community"(edited)
  1530. El Tío de Capitalismo - Last Wednesday at 3:48 PM
  1531. I guess my understanding of her aim was essentially have a discord that is representative of the sub?
  1532. uvoa - Last Wednesday at 3:48 PM
  1533. yeah
  1534. that the Subreddit and the Discord are essentially the same
  1535. Read Marx - Last Wednesday at 3:48 PM
  1536. @El Tío de Capitalismo, then she just needs to turn it over to liberals and SocDems.
  1537. uvoa - Last Wednesday at 3:48 PM
  1538. like if there was a chat box in the corner of the subreddit that auto-opened whenever you subscribed
  1539. El Tío de Capitalismo - Last Wednesday at 3:48 PM
  1540. /r/soc_101 is related to the /r/soc_101 sub right? Whic has essentially the same moderation?
  1541. La Morsongona - Last Wednesday at 3:48 PM
  1542. No
  1543. The subreddit mod team is very different
  1544. El Tío de Capitalismo - Last Wednesday at 3:48 PM
  1545. nonono
  1546. Sanic Hedjehoag - Last Wednesday at 3:48 PM
  1547. Cyridius and MSFD own soc101
  1548. El Tío de Capitalismo - Last Wednesday at 3:49 PM
  1549. I mean the /r/soc_101 and /r/soc subs
  1550. comrade mccarthy - Last Wednesday at 3:49 PM
  1551. my two favs @Sanic Hedjehoag
  1552. La Morsongona - Last Wednesday at 3:49 PM
  1553. oh
  1554. El Tío de Capitalismo - Last Wednesday at 3:49 PM
  1555. have essentially the same moderation
  1556. Sanic Hedjehoag - Last Wednesday at 3:49 PM
  1557. And are banned from the discord
  1558. La Morsongona - Last Wednesday at 3:49 PM
  1559. They're still pretty different
  1560. nudel - Last Wednesday at 3:49 PM
  1561. ok im gonna be honest with you
  1562. El Tío de Capitalismo - Last Wednesday at 3:49 PM
  1563. ok ok
  1564. nudel - Last Wednesday at 3:49 PM
  1565. the only two people who mod the 101 sub
  1566. is me and this person whos name starts with c
  1567. that I cant remember
  1568. The Law 👩🏼⚖ - Last Wednesday at 3:49 PM
  1569. kropo
  1570. nudel - Last Wednesday at 3:49 PM
  1571. the latest action from someone that was not me or this other dude, was pingu
  1572. The Law 👩🏼⚖ - Last Wednesday at 3:49 PM
  1573. wait
  1574. nudel - Last Wednesday at 3:49 PM
  1575. before that, it was msfd 1 month ago
  1576. thats how little modding is being done on that sub.
  1577. The Law 👩🏼⚖ - Last Wednesday at 3:50 PM
  1578. its so bad but it really needs modding
  1579. El Tío de Capitalismo - Last Wednesday at 3:50 PM
  1580. ok, well I guess i'm just hoping 101 gets unaffected
  1581. The Law 👩🏼⚖ - Last Wednesday at 3:50 PM
  1582. me too
  1583. nudel - Last Wednesday at 3:50 PM
  1584. then again, the 101 sub is owned by cyridious so
  1585. cant blame people not wanting to mod it lol
  1586. The Law 👩🏼⚖ - Last Wednesday at 3:50 PM
  1587. ugh yeah
  1588. Derrida's Corbyniser - Last Wednesday at 3:50 PM
  1589. cnesor your slurs pls
  1590. El Tío de Capitalismo - Last Wednesday at 3:50 PM
  1591. are they keeping 101 up in the sub?(edited)
  1592. nudel - Last Wednesday at 3:50 PM
  1593. I mean
  1594. Derrida's Corbyniser - Last Wednesday at 3:50 PM
  1595. no idea
  1596. nudel - Last Wednesday at 3:51 PM
  1597. they never put it up there in the first place
  1598. I did that
  1599. El Tío de Capitalismo - Last Wednesday at 3:51 PM
  1600. oh ok(edited)
  1601. nudel - Last Wednesday at 3:51 PM
  1602. before that peopel didnt even know the 101 discord existed
  1603. La Morsongona - Last Wednesday at 3:51 PM
  1604. But Tremble owns 101 the discord, right
  1605. Derrida's Corbyniser - Last Wednesday at 3:51 PM
  1606. the main sub mods ave not really touched 101 since they started it iirc
  1607. El Tío de Capitalismo - Last Wednesday at 3:51 PM
  1608. I feel like 101 gets most traffic from people going to this server and getting turned away
  1609. Derrida's Corbyniser - Last Wednesday at 3:51 PM
  1610. no one does anything at all with the 101 sub
  1611. The Law 👩🏼⚖ - Last Wednesday at 3:51 PM
  1612. tremble created 101
  1613. the server
  1614. nudel - Last Wednesday at 3:52 PM
  1615. @El Tío de Capitalismo yeah pretty much
  1616. El Tío de Capitalismo - Last Wednesday at 3:52 PM
  1617. which means as a result of this petty shit, 101 could possible die
  1618. nudel - Last Wednesday at 3:52 PM
  1619. its gotten a bit better even since I added the 101 link on the r/soc sub
  1620. now people at least know it exists
  1621. Derrida's Corbyniser - Last Wednesday at 3:52 PM
  1622. yeah peopole come on now
  1623. do we get any traffic from 101 sub
  1624. El Tío de Capitalismo - Last Wednesday at 3:52 PM
  1625. I think ive spoekn to a few people in there who use it
  1626. Ragark - Last Wednesday at 3:53 PM
  1627. This is probably about to go to 11
  1628. nudel - Last Wednesday at 3:53 PM
  1629. @Derrida's Corbyniser Im not sure the css is too confusing for me to add a link there
  1630. also I dont want to mess with the 101 sub css, cuz cyridious owns it
  1631. so I never added a link there
  1632. Derrida's Corbyniser - Last Wednesday at 3:54 PM
  1633. ah
  1634. Mew - Last Wednesday at 3:54 PM
  1635. There could even be utility in making the 101 server the main /r/soc server and then picking people who are cool from there to come over here (e.g. Picard and Rocketman)
  1636. La Morsongona - Last Wednesday at 3:54 PM
  1637. I agree with that
  1638. Derrida's Corbyniser - Last Wednesday at 3:54 PM
  1639. yeah it's unfornate but i doubt MSFD or him will give up modship
  1640. El Tío de Capitalismo - Last Wednesday at 3:54 PM
  1641. Tremble has made it clear that she does not want that solution
  1642. Sanic Hedjehoag - Last Wednesday at 3:54 PM
  1643. That's what I was suggesting earlier buy apparently the universe is a bit broken for that now? @Mew
  1644. nudel - Last Wednesday at 3:55 PM
  1645. @Derrida's Corbyniser the 101 sub is super bad though, it would need a complete overhaul
  1646. Mew - Last Wednesday at 3:55 PM
  1647. ah gotcha NoCo
  1648. El Tío de Capitalismo - Last Wednesday at 3:55 PM
  1649. that has been suggested many times
  1650. nudel - Last Wednesday at 3:55 PM
  1651. people who are answering questions arent even marxists
  1652. its literally filled with people who thinks co-ops are socialist
  1653. Derrida's Corbyniser - Last Wednesday at 3:55 PM
  1654. @nudel oh i know lol, it's really in a state of disrepair
  1655. El Tío de Capitalismo - Last Wednesday at 3:55 PM
  1656. better than communism_101
  1657. Ragark - Last Wednesday at 3:55 PM
  1658. It's also owned by cyridius
  1659. nudel - Last Wednesday at 3:55 PM
  1660. and cuz no one mods it except me and that other guy, they can answer without anyone removing their comments and warning em
  1661. @Ragark yeah I dont really blame people for not modding it or w/e
  1662. The Law 👩🏼⚖ - Last Wednesday at 3:56 PM
  1663. is Cyridius active?
  1664. nudel - Last Wednesday at 3:56 PM
  1665. since its owned by him.
  1666. Ragark - Last Wednesday at 3:56 PM
  1667. Not particulary I don't think
  1668. Detroit Red - Last Wednesday at 3:56 PM
  1669. @The Law 👩🏼⚖ Probably active on an alt, tbh
  1670. nudel - Last Wednesday at 3:56 PM
  1671. @The Law 👩🏼⚖ no its only 2 mods active on that sub
  1672. comrade mccarthy - Last Wednesday at 3:56 PM
  1673. cyridius has a new acc
  1674. Reds1917
  1675. ftr
  1676. La Morsongona - Last Wednesday at 3:56 PM
  1677. I actually think that if you were to just ask nicely, you could probably get it
  1678. The Law 👩🏼⚖ - Last Wednesday at 3:56 PM
  1679. oh right
  1680. nudel - Last Wednesday at 3:56 PM
  1681. and by active I mean, maybe checks it once a day
  1682. Ragark - Last Wednesday at 3:56 PM
  1683. I have /r/asksocialist or something like that you could use as a replacement
  1684. Detroit Red - Last Wednesday at 3:56 PM
  1685. Screenshot_2017-06-14_16.56.48.png
  1686. 88.05 KB
  1687. Yeah, that's his alt
  1688. La Morsongona - Last Wednesday at 3:57 PM
  1689. Rag, do you have any idea what y'all plan on doing with the 101 discord(edited)
  1690. Derrida's Corbyniser - Last Wednesday at 3:57 PM
  1691. the proble mis getting the sub added to the sidebar
  1692. nudel - Last Wednesday at 3:57 PM
  1693. idk, whatever happens to this discord, I just hope you dont nuke the fucking 101 discord
  1694. cuz its so comfy and nice
  1695. and all the new people on there would be so dissapointed
  1696. Ragark - Last Wednesday at 3:57 PM
  1697. No idea
  1698. Derrida's Corbyniser - Last Wednesday at 3:57 PM
  1699. the 101 sub sit there collecting dust and is unmoderated and unpromoted
  1700. i like the 101 discord for what it is
  1701. Ragark - Last Wednesday at 3:57 PM
  1702. We only talked for a couple hours, so not much progress has been made
  1703. Thecatwhomines - Last Wednesday at 3:58 PM
  1704. Leave the 101 discord alone
  1705. Ragark - Last Wednesday at 3:58 PM
  1706. most of the talk was about what form a new discord would take.
  1707. Derrida's Corbyniser - Last Wednesday at 3:58 PM
  1708. i am often pleasantly surprised by some newcomers at least
  1709. Sanic Hedjehoag - Last Wednesday at 3:58 PM
  1710. I mean even if the soc 101 discord were refashioned into r/soc, how much about it would honestly change? Aside from perhaps a channel shuffle
  1711. nudel - Last Wednesday at 3:59 PM
  1712. I mean that obv depends
  1713. if tremble want to take it another direction
  1714. gatz - Last Wednesday at 3:59 PM
  1715. @Detroit Red WHERE IS THIS
  1716. WHAT
  1717. Mew - Last Wednesday at 3:59 PM
  1718. I have this weird pride about picard lmfao, I remember this well-behaved soc101 nerd baby who had potential... then I invite him here and he ascends
  1719. gatz - Last Wednesday at 3:59 PM
  1720. THE
  1721. wherever this is please ban him
  1722. Sanic Hedjehoag - Last Wednesday at 3:59 PM
  1723. I'm sorry I'm probably schlepping over existing points, I'm out and about
  1724. gatz - Last Wednesday at 3:59 PM
  1725. no questions asked
  1726. La Morsongona - Last Wednesday at 3:59 PM
  1727. @Sanic Hedjehoag it's all good
  1728. La Morsongona - Last Wednesday at 4:00 PM
  1729. Our opinions don't really matter anyways
  1730. nudel - Last Wednesday at 4:00 PM
  1731. idk, I just think it would be ashame if the 101 discord took the blow over this shit
  1732. cuz its such a good discord
  1733. Detroit Red - Last Wednesday at 4:00 PM
  1734. @gatz That would be the lobby of our People of Colour Server. He left and was banned from it a while ago
  1735. Derrida's Corbyniser - Last Wednesday at 4:00 PM
  1736. gato it says "welcome to E-POC" so i assume that is it
  1737. Detroit Red - Last Wednesday at 4:00 PM
  1738. He ain't getting back in
  1739. Mew - Last Wednesday at 4:00 PM
  1740. Yeah, no worries NoCo, honestly seeing the same points come up from people who haven't read them before in this convo is just hammering home how there's probably many points of agreement, or places where compromises could be made
  1741. The question is really whether or not the gaping wound that was inflicted by deciding that the majority of the mod team couldn't engage in productive discussion about this can be mended
  1742. gatz - Last Wednesday at 4:02 PM
  1743. sorry i panicked and didnt see the name
  1744. i dont want him anywhere near me
  1745. Sanic Hedjehoag - Last Wednesday at 4:02 PM
  1746. I mean perhaps I'm too eager to mend splits and disagreements but, like, while I get the hurt feelings which are totally legitimate, it seems a bit stubborn to just set everything aflame and not go through with a plan along these lines @Mew
  1747. La Morsongona - Last Wednesday at 4:03 PM
  1748. I totally agree with that, which is why the super secret server shouldn't have been made
  1749. And we have to go forward from there
  1750. Derrida's Corbyniser - Last Wednesday at 4:03 PM
  1751. @gatz don't blame you at all tbh
  1752. Detroit Red - Last Wednesday at 4:03 PM
  1753. @gatz Don't worry about it. I should've edited out the slur in the image, if anything
  1754. comrade mccarthy - Last Wednesday at 4:06 PM
  1755. hey
  1756. Screen_Shot_2017-06-14_at_21.png
  1757. 193.93 KB
  1758. it seems like this more than anything is just a way to get rid of mods you disagree with
  1759. also, i try to be super receptive to self-crit so if i've done something 2 make any of you uncomfortable PLZ confront me or ask someone else to do it if you aren't comfortable
  1760. The Law 👩🏼⚖ - Last Wednesday at 4:07 PM
  1761. same here if ive done something bad please tell me
  1762. Derrida's Corbyniser - Last Wednesday at 4:08 PM
  1763. biggest complaint about you comrade: you don't post pics of your doggos enough, sorry to drag that out but facts are facts :shrug::skin-tone-3:
  1764. comrade mccarthy - Last Wednesday at 4:08 PM
  1765. :sob:
  1766. also, to be clear
  1767. "she left with no word to anyone" isn't true - i was still in contact with basically everybody
  1768. lots of the ppl in here can confirm, + upholder left before i did and he didn't get mentioned
  1769. i wasnt under the impression that taking a break from the discord was an issue
  1770. The Law 👩🏼⚖ - Last Wednesday at 4:10 PM
  1771. i also wasnt
  1772. idk why leaving isnt a problem
  1773.  
  1774. Derrida's Corbyniser - Last Wednesday at 4:10 PM
  1775. i read it more as "well that issue solved itself"
  1776. The Law 👩🏼⚖ - Last Wednesday at 4:10 PM
  1777. mods have left before and been in contact with folks before
  1778. Jay - Last Wednesday at 4:10 PM
  1779. same DC
  1780. gatz - Last Wednesday at 4:10 PM
  1781. oh upholder was mentioned before the screenshot
  1782. comrade mccarthy - Last Wednesday at 4:10 PM
  1783. oh okay!
  1784. The Law 👩🏼⚖ - Last Wednesday at 4:11 PM
  1785. oh shit nvm
  1786. comrade mccarthy - Last Wednesday at 4:11 PM
  1787. i hope upholder comes back soon too
  1788. The Law 👩🏼⚖ - Last Wednesday at 4:11 PM
  1789. me too
  1790. Jay - Last Wednesday at 4:12 PM
  1791. What I really want to know is, who the fuck deleted/made role-accessible the iron-curtain channel in the secret discord and why are you trying to hide/redact information.
  1792. Ragark - Last Wednesday at 4:12 PM
  1793. I want to be clear that I had no idea if this was a anti-mccarthy thing or not. I still support the creation of a new discord directly subservient to the sub's needs, but not one that's for the purpose of sidelining mccarthy.
  1794. Jay - Last Wednesday at 4:12 PM
  1795. That is incredibly shady
  1796. comrade mccarthy - Last Wednesday at 4:12 PM
  1797. hahah thanks ragark
  1798. gatz - Last Wednesday at 4:14 PM
  1799. ive left the other server so idk whats going anymore soz jay
  1800. Ragark - Last Wednesday at 4:15 PM
  1801. I've left as well
  1802. gatz - Last Wednesday at 4:15 PM
  1803. shit didnt mean to delete ur message @The Law 👩🏼⚖
  1804. @Anon
  1805. The Law 👩🏼⚖ - Last Wednesday at 4:16 PM
  1806. @gatz its cool lol
  1807. Subcomandante DeMarcos - Last Wednesday at 4:19 PM
  1808. oooh fuck
  1809. wrong chat
  1810. comrade mccarthy - Last Wednesday at 4:19 PM
  1811. good to know either way
  1812. Ragark - Last Wednesday at 4:19 PM
  1813. lol
  1814. La Morsongona - Last Wednesday at 4:19 PM
  1815. LOL
  1816. Subcomandante DeMarcos - Last Wednesday at 4:19 PM
  1817. you saw nothing
  1818. Ragark - Last Wednesday at 4:20 PM
  1819. http://25.media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m8pvucvUSO1ry10fwo1_500.gif
  1820. Let Them Tremble - Last Wednesday at 4:29 PM
  1821. Has absolutely nothing to do with "anti-mccarthy" - like everyone else mccarthy's welcome on the new server
  1822. comrade mccarthy - Last Wednesday at 4:31 PM
  1823. thats just the screen i got from gato
  1824. the intentions to her were to exclude certain mods it seems
  1825. @gatz is that wrong? i dont want to speak for you
  1826. gatz - Last Wednesday at 4:33 PM
  1827. thats the impression i got from what i was told. that certain mods wouldnt be invited or put in mdoerating positions
  1828. Derrida's Corbyniser - Last Wednesday at 4:33 PM
  1829. unless the screen is photoshopped i don't know how that is not the case
  1830. gatz - Last Wednesday at 4:33 PM
  1831. i cant use or afford photoshop
  1832. Derrida's Corbyniser - Last Wednesday at 4:34 PM
  1833. lol i know, you are just a poor med student :stuck_out_tongue:
  1834. gatz - Last Wednesday at 4:34 PM
  1835. :( i had beans on toast for dinner
  1836. ♥ ConradeDoggo ♥ ᵒᵏ - Last Wednesday at 4:34 PM
  1837. Considering the timing of the creation of the clique server; it definitely seems to be that purpose even if people are disguising it as other intentions.
  1838. (sorry I've just finished reading back.)
  1839. comrade mccarthy - Last Wednesday at 4:34 PM
  1840. DOGGO :heart:
  1841. ♥ ConradeDoggo ♥ ᵒᵏ - Last Wednesday at 4:35 PM
  1842. Hey :heart:
  1843. gatz - Last Wednesday at 4:35 PM
  1844. im not saying everyone had malicious intentions but i was so confused as to why it was created in the first place
  1845. i dont think anyone really knew tbh
  1846. and kreme made a big scene too
  1847. nudel - Last Wednesday at 4:35 PM
  1848. to be fair, kreme literally pointed out how there shoudn't have been a clique in the first place
  1849. and how the convo should be held here
  1850. idk why people just ignored him on that
  1851. Let Them Tremble - Last Wednesday at 4:36 PM
  1852. Like I had no intention of that server being a place for conversation - it wasn't even built up yet
  1853. I sent it to one person, who sent it to other people
  1854. gatz - Last Wednesday at 4:37 PM
  1855. kreme's concern was n their words the 'toxic culture' of this server which imo should have been discussed here or at least in PMs with every mod involved(edited)
  1856. Let Them Tremble - Last Wednesday at 4:37 PM
  1857. It has been, a lot
  1858. Mentioned several times over the past few months
  1859. gatz - Last Wednesday at 4:38 PM
  1860. if thats true there should be self-crit in why it was ignored
  1861. and why people are feeling isolated
  1862. but it should be done here
  1863. with everyone involved
  1864. ☝9
  1865. nudel - Last Wednesday at 4:38 PM
  1866. I mean its pretty important that its done with the people who are involved with the so called "toxic culture"
  1867. otherwise, whats even the point?
  1868. Let Them Tremble - Last Wednesday at 4:39 PM
  1869. But every time there's dissent
  1870. There's a dogpile
  1871. And accusations of crypto-bigotry
  1872. Derrida's Corbyniser - Last Wednesday at 4:39 PM
  1873. so is toxic code for "disagree" or
  1874. think5
  1875. Let Them Tremble - Last Wednesday at 4:39 PM
  1876. No it's not "code" but it's one of the symptoms
  1877. comrade mccarthy - Last Wednesday at 4:40 PM
  1878. people disagreeing with you isn't toxic
  1879. 👆🏾5
  1880. La Morsongona - Last Wednesday at 4:40 PM
  1881. I think wording like "crypto-bigotry" is very problematic.
  1882. comrade mccarthy - Last Wednesday at 4:40 PM
  1883. furthermore if people are accusing other users of bigotry why are you just like acting like they are all unfounded
  1884. Mew - Last Wednesday at 4:40 PM
  1885. toxicity is a symptom of disagreement?
  1886. comrade mccarthy - Last Wednesday at 4:40 PM
  1887. like that is a convo that needs to happen
  1888. Let Them Tremble - Last Wednesday at 4:40 PM
  1889. No, people piling on you and others repeatedly leaving the server because it's a "toxic" atmosphere does indicate some toxicity though
  1890. Derrida's Corbyniser - Last Wednesday at 4:41 PM
  1891. so basically what you are saying is that we are like "tumblr feminists" who are supposed to use accusations of bigotry to shut down opposition
  1892. Let Them Tremble - Last Wednesday at 4:42 PM
  1893. Why are you putting words in my mouth?
  1894. Detroit Red - Last Wednesday at 4:42 PM
  1895. I can only speak for myself, but the cliquey nonsense and the dismissals of people's concerns were why I left this server @Let Them Tremble
  1896. comrade mccarthy - Last Wednesday at 4:42 PM
  1897. i personally left the server because its exhausting to talk about what we talked about in cw
  1898. Let Them Tremble - Last Wednesday at 4:42 PM
  1899. Yes, and my concerns have also been dismissed lol - not just dismissed but literally ganged up on in order to be undermined
  1900. I think those calling me dismissive are hyppcrties
  1901. I spent hours the other day writing out moderation stuff for this new structure so we could go ahead and have the elections from the committees
  1902. La Morsongona - Last Wednesday at 4:43 PM
  1903. That's what lines like "accusation of crypto-bigotry" sound like, though, Tremble. They aren't crypto, they're real, and people are affected by them.
  1904. ☝5
  1905. Derrida's Corbyniser - Last Wednesday at 4:43 PM
  1906. i'm not putting words in your mouth i am just concerned about rhetoric that literally sounds like anti-SJW talking points
  1907. ☝5
  1908. Let Them Tremble - Last Wednesday at 4:44 PM
  1909. People were accusing me of crypto bigotry, Morse
  1910. Not other
  1911. s
  1912. Because I disagreed with moderating those instances of the word "fuck"
  1913. And it's clear that literally nothing I say will change the picture you're trying to paint - so I do think it's pretty ridiculous that you're saying I'm dismissive
  1914. La Morsongona - Last Wednesday at 4:46 PM
  1915. I'm not trying to paint a picture.
  1916. The problem is, is that you haven't given anybody here enough information to be fully aware of what's happening. And so we're trying to look at what the picture is, but nobody has any idea.
  1917. 👏3
  1918. Jay - Last Wednesday at 4:48 PM
  1919. "I'm just kind of reaching the limit of the word policing. I do not believe that people mean these things with the literal intention that you're attaching to them"
  1920.  
  1921. are you really going to pretend that what you said was literally only about the word fuck and not also about earlier mod actions
  1922. like really
  1923. "the word policing" is what you would say about a long standing issue
  1924. ☝3
  1925. not about a single instance of something occuring
  1926. and you refuse to give instances of these mod actions, you have given ONE today that is relevant to the discord, ONE(edited)
  1927. and it had nothing to do with "word policing"(edited)
  1928. Mew - Last Wednesday at 4:49 PM
  1929. The context of this screencap is that I posted this comment that I put care into wording so that it was fair to both sides of this argument and laid out what I perceived to be the real substance of the discussion, hoping that it could be continued in good faith to reach some sort of resolution. It had been 7ish hours since the first round of discussion ended. Can you explain to me how your response isn't dismissive, in that, no where in this comment do I accuse anyone of bigotry, nor do I argue that "fuck x" = "x should be r-p-d", in fact, I took care to distinguish "fuck x" from "get fucked". I don't see what purpose your response served other than to escalate the contradiction in order to make it irresolvable.
  1930. Screen_Shot_2017-06-14_at_11.45.03_PM.jpg
  1931. 178.92 KB
  1932. Why did I waste my time writing up that comment in the first place?
  1933. Let Them Tremble - Last Wednesday at 4:49 PM
  1934. Yeah it was also about the catgirls thing
  1935. Jay - Last Wednesday at 4:49 PM
  1936. the catgirls thing happened on the subreddit
  1937. not the discord
  1938. Let Them Tremble - Last Wednesday at 4:50 PM
  1939. Yes, because people in here were arguing about it
  1940. lol
  1941. Jay - Last Wednesday at 4:50 PM
  1942. :rolling_eyes:
  1943. Let Them Tremble - Last Wednesday at 4:50 PM
  1944. And people who argued against the ban were accused of bigotry
  1945. Mew - Last Wednesday at 4:50 PM
  1946. tbh it's ACAB's fault for consulting chatmods about submod stuff.
  1947. ♥ ConradeDoggo ♥ ᵒᵏ - Last Wednesday at 4:50 PM
  1948. Like, honestly. You should read the conversation back to yourself and ask why people are calling you dimissive before dismissing it out of hand. I honestly don't believe you can read through that conversation and come to the conclusion that you weren't being dismissive.
  1949. Let Them Tremble - Last Wednesday at 4:50 PM
  1950. Moderation is not always the best route
  1951. comrade mccarthy - Last Wednesday at 4:51 PM
  1952. LTT why are you waiting to transfer server ownership?
  1953. The Law 👩🏼⚖ - Last Wednesday at 4:52 PM
  1954. i dont know what you mean when you say "moderation is not always the best route"
  1955. Mew - Last Wednesday at 4:53 PM
  1956. In the screencap I posted I even pointed out that moderation might be impractical in the case of "fuck x", which you dismissed with a completel nonsequitor.
  1957. comrade mccarthy - Last Wednesday at 4:54 PM
  1958. no one was even arguing to moderate "fuck x"
  1959. literally no one in the conversation
  1960. the hardest line was "discourage people from saying it"
  1961. The Law 👩🏼⚖ - Last Wednesday at 4:54 PM
  1962. the point was about certain instances of the word fuck, specifically "get fucked" not people saying "fuck trump" or something
  1963. Like Mealimo's point how we wouldn't ban the word kill but we would ban "kys"(edited)
  1964. Sanic Hedjehoag - Last Wednesday at 4:55 PM
  1965. @The Law 👩🏼⚖ I mean people were talking about "fuck x" that's how the convo started
  1966. comrade mccarthy - Last Wednesday at 4:55 PM
  1967. no one was even arguing to moderate "fuck x"
  1968. literally no one in the conversation
  1969. the hardest line was "discourage people from saying it"
  1970. The Law 👩🏼⚖ - Last Wednesday at 4:55 PM
  1971. im talking about Mealimo's point i meant
  1972. ♥ ConradeDoggo ♥ ᵒᵏ - Last Wednesday at 4:56 PM
  1973. @Sanic Hedjehoag mccarthy was the one who started the convo, thats just not accurate.
  1974. Sanic Hedjehoag - Last Wednesday at 4:56 PM
  1975. Kind of like how the word "speech" shouldn't be banned but "free speech" should
  1976. ☝3
  1977. The Law 👩🏼⚖ - Last Wednesday at 4:56 PM
  1978. sure lol
  1979. comrade mccarthy - Last Wednesday at 4:56 PM
  1980. the conversation actually started with a discussion on mxd and its uses in AAVE
  1981. Jay - Last Wednesday at 4:56 PM
  1982. ^
  1983. Detroit Red - Last Wednesday at 4:57 PM
  1984. @comrade mccarthy Why am I not surprised?
  1985. comrade mccarthy - Last Wednesday at 4:57 PM
  1986. :shrug:
  1987. Jay - Last Wednesday at 4:57 PM
  1988. FTR detroit I brought it up after using it myself
  1989. comrade mccarthy - Last Wednesday at 4:57 PM
  1990. i shrug irl everytime i do the shrug emoji
  1991. Detroit Red - Last Wednesday at 4:57 PM
  1992. (What does FTR stand for?)
  1993. Sanic Hedjehoag - Last Wednesday at 4:57 PM
  1994. @♥ ConradeDoggo ♥ ᵒᵏ I mean when we were in discussion of the use of the word fuck, the first example that comes to mind because this is one that has been spoken about for weeks is the phrase " fuck (insert person here" not to say that triggered the conversation
  1995. Jay - Last Wednesday at 4:58 PM
  1996. for the record
  1997. La Morsongona - Last Wednesday at 4:58 PM
  1998. Lol, at least this time it wasn't a white person being offensive
  1999. Mew - Last Wednesday at 4:58 PM
  2000. And honestly Marxists should be able to have critical discussions that don't necessarily lead to moderation policy decisions, if only for the sake of clarity
  2001. Detroit Red - Last Wednesday at 4:58 PM
  2002. Ah gotcha! @Jay
  2003. ♥ ConradeDoggo ♥ ᵒᵏ - Last Wednesday at 4:58 PM
  2004. @Sanic Hedjehoag okay I misread. I'm sorry.
  2005. Sanic Hedjehoag - Last Wednesday at 5:02 PM
  2006. It's all good comrade, mistakes are made @♥ ConradeDoggo ♥ ᵒᵏ
  2007. Sanic Hedjehoag - Last Wednesday at 8:14 PM
  2008. IT HAS COME TO MY ATTENTION THAT @2Basque2Furious THINKS THAT HE SHOULD BE THE OWNER OF THIS DISCORD
  2009. I WOULD LIKE TO NOMINATE HIM
  2010. 2Basque2Furious - Last Wednesday at 8:14 PM
  2011. @Sanic Hedjehoag Is fake news
  2012. The Law 👩🏼⚖ - Last Wednesday at 8:18 PM
  2013. lol
  2014. Sanic Hedjehoag - Last Wednesday at 8:19 PM
  2015. LET IT BE KNOWN THAT PINGU HAS SUPPORTED THE MODSHIP CAMPAIGN OF @2Basque2Furious
  2016. ♥ ConradeDoggo ♥ ᵒᵏ - Last Wednesday at 8:36 PM
  2017. @Sanic Hedjehoag supports @2Basque2Furious
  2018. The Law 👩🏼⚖ - Last Wednesday at 8:41 PM
  2019. I personally vote Mingus to be server owner
  2020. uvoa - Last Wednesday at 8:42 PM
  2021. i would be a good server owner. my first action will be to merge this with PD so we can have an enormous bonfire
  2022. 🔥6
  2023. please vote for me
  2024. enji - Last Wednesday at 9:03 PM
  2025. No pressure
  2026. No offense
  2027. I promise to not retaliate(edited)
  2028. Who deleted that screen?
  2029. The Law 👩🏼⚖ - Last Wednesday at 9:04 PM
  2030. There's no reason to ignore community moderators
  2031. enji - Last Wednesday at 9:04 PM
  2032. I just wanna know.
  2033. The Law 👩🏼⚖ - Last Wednesday at 9:04 PM
  2034. And our users also took offense to this bullshit
  2035. enji - Last Wednesday at 9:05 PM
  2036. Which no good back-stabbing chicken shit had the temerity to delete the screen?
  2037. comrade mccarthy - Last Wednesday at 9:05 PM
  2038. unknown.png
  2039. 15.22 KB
  2040. enji - Last Wednesday at 9:05 PM
  2041. Oh
  2042. comrade mccarthy - Last Wednesday at 9:05 PM
  2043. the beauty of audit logs @enji
  2044. Jay - Last Wednesday at 9:05 PM
  2045. oh boy
  2046. Anon - Last Wednesday at 9:05 PM
  2047. Yep, because dog pilling on a few people isn't a conversation it is bullying.
  2048. comrade mccarthy - Last Wednesday at 9:05 PM
  2049. why do you keep deleting it
  2050. enji - Last Wednesday at 9:06 PM
  2051. Don't wanna be confronted by 20 people?
  2052. Derrida's Corbyniser - Last Wednesday at 9:06 PM
  2053. lol
  2054. enji - Last Wednesday at 9:06 PM
  2055. Don't do underhanded shit to 20 people.
  2056. Simple as.
  2057. Jay - Last Wednesday at 9:06 PM
  2058. Stop discussing shit in servers where the community it effects arent involved
  2059. Anon - Last Wednesday at 9:06 PM
  2060. MSFD is a bully! But it's clearly okay when you do it :smiley:
  2061. Let Them Tremble - Last Wednesday at 9:06 PM
  2062. ^
  2063. Derrida's Corbyniser - Last Wednesday at 9:06 PM
  2064. WHY ARE THEY UPSET I CAN'T FIGURE IT OUT
  2065. comrade mccarthy - Last Wednesday at 9:06 PM
  2066. hahahahaha what
  2067. enji - Last Wednesday at 9:06 PM
  2068. Don't equate what MSFD did to this
  2069. comrade mccarthy - Last Wednesday at 9:06 PM
  2070. yall have the most power out of everyone on this server
  2071. Anon - Last Wednesday at 9:06 PM
  2072. He would iniate dog piles on people
  2073. comrade mccarthy - Last Wednesday at 9:06 PM
  2074. and you are trying to compare power relations
  2075. Jay - Last Wednesday at 9:06 PM
  2076. Not even a close comparison
  2077. ♥ ConradeDoggo ♥ ᵒᵏ - Last Wednesday at 9:06 PM
  2078. MSFD was a condescending asshole to people to quiet them down.
  2079.  
  2080. We're definitely not the ones doing that.
  2081. comrade mccarthy - Last Wednesday at 9:06 PM
  2082. hahahahahahahahaha
  2083. ♥ ConradeDoggo ♥ ᵒᵏ - Last Wednesday at 9:07 PM
  2084. But I can definitely point to someone who is.
  2085. enji - Last Wednesday at 9:07 PM
  2086. We don't want you to quiet down.
  2087. Derrida's Corbyniser - Last Wednesday at 9:07 PM
  2088. we are not in general we are mods wanting to talk about mod matters
  2089. enji - Last Wednesday at 9:07 PM
  2090. We want you to do the exact opposite
  2091. Jay - Last Wednesday at 9:07 PM
  2092. We are literally telling you to come here and have the discussion
  2093. Let Them Tremble - Last Wednesday at 9:07 PM
  2094. Sorry it's not happening here
  2095. CrumblyHandsomeCorbynizer - Last Wednesday at 9:07 PM
  2096. How is this not a dogpile?
  2097. Anon - Last Wednesday at 9:07 PM
  2098. I saw what you did to Tremble earlier today(edited)
  2099. La Morsongona - Last Wednesday at 9:07 PM
  2100. Then where is it happening, in your club?
  2101. AMong yourselves
  2102. comrade mccarthy - Last Wednesday at 9:07 PM
  2103. excluding the people who disagree with you?
  2104. Jay - Last Wednesday at 9:08 PM
  2105. Where yall literally already removed information for further viewing? no thanks
  2106. comrade mccarthy - Last Wednesday at 9:08 PM
  2107. and continue to in mod channels
  2108. Let Them Tremble - Last Wednesday at 9:08 PM
  2109. We're entitled to have discussions among ourselves about the sub, the community as a whole and things that effect it, this is ridiculous
  2110. Derrida's Corbyniser - Last Wednesday at 9:08 PM
  2111. if you can't figure out why a coup server upsets people i am not sure what to even say to you
  2112. Anon - Last Wednesday at 9:08 PM
  2113. I wanted to have a discussion with the sub mods before we came here. I don't see the actual issue with that. Enji unilaterally decided that wasn't okay.
  2114. La Morsongona - Last Wednesday at 9:09 PM
  2115. We all decided it
  2116. It wasn't just enji
  2117. CrumblyHandsomeCorbynizer - Last Wednesday at 9:09 PM
  2118. Tbh a lot of details were being eked out that were then going to be presented to here btw to see what you all think(edited)
  2119. The Law 👩🏼⚖ - Last Wednesday at 9:09 PM
  2120. We all did
  2121. Let Them Tremble - Last Wednesday at 9:09 PM
  2122. A coup is a seizure of power
  2123. Derrida's Corbyniser - Last Wednesday at 9:09 PM
  2124. lol enji didn't
  2125. ♥ ConradeDoggo ♥ ᵒᵏ - Last Wednesday at 9:09 PM
  2126. we saw the logs; we know what happened in that server.
  2127. Jay - Last Wednesday at 9:09 PM
  2128. Restarting the server to mold it in your image is exactly that
  2129. Let Them Tremble - Last Wednesday at 9:09 PM
  2130. Oh yes it's already been mined for screenies
  2131. comrade mccarthy - Last Wednesday at 9:09 PM
  2132. i dont understand how you consider it a dogpile when you are literally the only one who has the final say, it is not like anything we say can damage your position here or on the sub
  2133. you are the top mods on the subreddit and on the discord
  2134. Let Them Tremble - Last Wednesday at 9:10 PM
  2135. Yes, and in your view that justifies your treatment of me
  2136. Derrida's Corbyniser - Last Wednesday at 9:10 PM
  2137. lol
  2138. comrade mccarthy - Last Wednesday at 9:10 PM
  2139. i am treating you poorly?
  2140. Let Them Tremble - Last Wednesday at 9:10 PM
  2141. Your plural
  2142. comrade mccarthy - Last Wednesday at 9:10 PM
  2143. we are treating you poorly
  2144. Derrida's Corbyniser - Last Wednesday at 9:10 PM
  2145. comrade's treatment of you when anon is trying to rid her from the mod team behind our backs?
  2146. Anon - Last Wednesday at 9:11 PM
  2147. Yes, and we were well aware that we could shut down any and all discussion, we didn't and we haven't but. In the end, everytime Tremble has spoken in here you all have dog piled on her.
  2148. ♥ ConradeDoggo ♥ ᵒᵏ - Last Wednesday at 9:11 PM
  2149. comrades treatment of you when she was condescended over the initital issue sparking this, repeatedly.
  2150. comrade mccarthy - Last Wednesday at 9:11 PM
  2151. everyone disagrees with her and what you are doing @Anon
  2152. enji - Last Wednesday at 9:11 PM
  2153. I said it before.
  2154. comrade mccarthy - Last Wednesday at 9:11 PM
  2155. are we just supposed to not say anything?
  2156. enji - Last Wednesday at 9:11 PM
  2157. I'll say it again.
  2158. Let Them Tremble - Last Wednesday at 9:11 PM
  2159. I'm out
  2160. enji - Last Wednesday at 9:11 PM
  2161. If you don't want the reactions of 20 people, don't betray the trust of 20 people.
  2162. Jay - Last Wednesday at 9:11 PM
  2163. Yeah keep running away from the conversation I guess
  2164. Read Marx - Last Wednesday at 9:12 PM
  2165. The server has problems, and these need to be addressed, @here. The rampant liberalism, SocDem worship, and not actually talking about socialism are huge fucking concerns.
  2166. Derrida's Corbyniser - Last Wednesday at 9:12 PM
  2167. :wave::skin-tone-3:
  2168. enji - Last Wednesday at 9:12 PM
  2169. By the way, my math is wrong.
  2170. The Law 👩🏼⚖ - Last Wednesday at 9:12 PM
  2171. Hi bone
  2172. enji - Last Wednesday at 9:12 PM
  2173. You betrayed the trust of hundreds of people.
  2174. Sanic Hedjehoag - Last Wednesday at 9:13 PM
  2175. Things we don't need to worry about in this conversation right now
  2176. 1) Corbyn supporters
  2177. Read Marx - Last Wednesday at 9:13 PM
  2178. Hi, @The Law 👩🏼⚖.
  2179. Anon - Last Wednesday at 9:13 PM
  2180. Did you all betray people when you made a new server because Zacha was top mod?
  2181. comrade mccarthy - Last Wednesday at 9:13 PM
  2182. dont compare a user who used racial slurs to whats going on here
  2183. thanks
  2184. ????
  2185. La Morsongona - Last Wednesday at 9:13 PM
  2186. The server was the exact same thing, y'all plan to do major overhalls
  2187. enji - Last Wednesday at 9:13 PM
  2188. > you
  2189. La Morsongona - Last Wednesday at 9:13 PM
  2190. Who knows what it's going to look like
  2191. Not us
  2192. CrumblyHandsomeCorbynizer - Last Wednesday at 9:13 PM
  2193. There's a difference between saying something and dogpiling a person to the point where someone can't make her peace. Many people here have already made their assumptions and conclusions and I personally don't feel I could make my peace. That's why I hadn't been participating in this and the convo hours ago.
  2194. enji - Last Wednesday at 9:13 PM
  2195. I had nothing to do with the creation of this new server.
  2196. comrade mccarthy - Last Wednesday at 9:13 PM
  2197. me neither
  2198. wasnt that MSFD?
  2199. Jay - Last Wednesday at 9:14 PM
  2200. I certainly didnt
  2201. enji - Last Wednesday at 9:14 PM
  2202. Yes it was.
  2203. Anon - Last Wednesday at 9:14 PM
  2204. Literally not the point. The point is that a few mods decided that there was a problem in the server that couldn't be addressed without systemic changes and they made it.
  2205. comrade mccarthy - Last Wednesday at 9:14 PM
  2206. was it a few mods or the whole modteam?
  2207. because i remember being informed about it as a chatmod
  2208. Anon - Last Wednesday at 9:14 PM
  2209. Few mods
  2210. enji - Last Wednesday at 9:14 PM
  2211. You're forgetting a major detail.
  2212. comrade mccarthy - Last Wednesday at 9:14 PM
  2213. dont remember it being "a few mods"
  2214. Anon - Last Wednesday at 9:14 PM
  2215. I never got any warning.
  2216. enji - Last Wednesday at 9:14 PM
  2217. Zach was an absentee mod save for some bigoted hot takes.
  2218. Read Marx - Last Wednesday at 9:15 PM
  2219. This could've been done inside the server.
  2220. enji - Last Wednesday at 9:15 PM
  2221. This whole thing came out of an interrupted discussion about oppressive language.
  2222. comrade mccarthy - Last Wednesday at 9:15 PM
  2223. if LTT just gives up server ownership we dont even need to have this discussion, you are the top sub mods and you can make your own server and unlink this one
  2224. no one can stop you from doing that
  2225. so stop chaining this server and leave
  2226. CrumblyHandsomeCorbynizer - Last Wednesday at 9:15 PM
  2227. We actually talked about that as a possibility
  2228. uvoa - Last Wednesday at 9:16 PM
  2229. then do it
  2230. Read Marx - Last Wednesday at 9:16 PM
  2231. But we're going to have to address the problems.
  2232. The Law 👩🏼⚖ - Last Wednesday at 9:16 PM
  2233. We are
  2234. comrade mccarthy - Last Wednesday at 9:16 PM
  2235. i see literally no reason to continue having this discussion because we cant convince you otherwise
  2236. enji - Last Wednesday at 9:16 PM
  2237. At the very least you must leave.
  2238. ♥ ConradeDoggo ♥ ᵒᵏ - Last Wednesday at 9:16 PM
  2239. @Read Marx we can cure them on our own with the major problematic elements gone.
  2240. La Morsongona - Last Wednesday at 9:16 PM
  2241. It's just so problematic when y'all talk about serious issues like that and don't consult us at all
  2242. The Law 👩🏼⚖ - Last Wednesday at 9:16 PM
  2243. And we'll address the problems here
  2244. comrade mccarthy - Last Wednesday at 9:16 PM
  2245. ^
  2246. enji - Last Wednesday at 9:16 PM
  2247. Whether this server will actually be delinked is another unsettled question.
  2248. Anon - Last Wednesday at 9:16 PM
  2249. You aren't trying to do anything other than dog pile. There hasn't been a discussion of any real issue other than blaming tremble.
  2250. comrade mccarthy - Last Wednesday at 9:16 PM
  2251. THE REAL ISSUE
  2252. ♥ ConradeDoggo ♥ ᵒᵏ - Last Wednesday at 9:16 PM
  2253. Anon, that's a lie.
  2254. enji - Last Wednesday at 9:16 PM
  2255. Nah I blame you too.
  2256. comrade mccarthy - Last Wednesday at 9:16 PM
  2257. IS THAT YOU MADE A SERVER BEHIND OUR BACKS HAHAH
  2258. La Morsongona - Last Wednesday at 9:16 PM
  2259. What's the real issue, then
  2260. enji - Last Wednesday at 9:17 PM
  2261. And Crumbly.
  2262. Don't worry this blame train has many stops.
  2263. comrade mccarthy - Last Wednesday at 9:17 PM
  2264. also i blame cy--d--s. No reason just i do
  2265. ♥ ConradeDoggo ♥ ᵒᵏ - Last Wednesday at 9:17 PM
  2266. We've been very clear with what the problems are, the condescention and deflection is has what's lead to a "dogpile."
  2267. Anon - Last Wednesday at 9:17 PM
  2268. Condescention? I've been here 5 minutes and all it's been is accusations.
  2269. comrade mccarthy - Last Wednesday at 9:18 PM
  2270. we have
  2271. screenshots
  2272. they are confirmed things you both have said and done
  2273. What is stopping yall from leaving this server now is my big question?
  2274. ♥ ConradeDoggo ♥ ᵒᵏ - Last Wednesday at 9:18 PM
  2275. it's hardly an accusation when theres literal proof.
  2276. enji - Last Wednesday at 9:18 PM
  2277. You know how to avoid a dogpile? Don't delete a message that makes transparent server policy.
  2278. Anon - Last Wednesday at 9:18 PM
  2279. Screenshots of a server that has existed less than 24 hours was was used to get people who have left this server or were invisible because they were literally trying to avoid this place.
  2280. La Morsongona - Last Wednesday at 9:19 PM
  2281. Y'all don't give us any information. You want a real conversation with us (which we've been trying to give), but literally tell us nothing about what you plan on doing. We can't have a serious conversation on the many issues at hand because y'all ain't said what the issues are to us. You just went off, made your club, and that's it.
  2282. enji - Last Wednesday at 9:19 PM
  2283. Just leave Anon. We will hash out which server represents the sub in modmail.
  2284. And trust me.
  2285. We will.
  2286. Pav - Last Wednesday at 9:19 PM
  2287. I wasn't informed about this server at all
  2288. comrade mccarthy - Last Wednesday at 9:19 PM
  2289. @Pav it was only a few people
  2290. ♥ ConradeDoggo ♥ ᵒᵏ - Last Wednesday at 9:19 PM
  2291. You're not in the clique Pav.
  2292. comrade mccarthy - Last Wednesday at 9:20 PM
  2293. pav can be in my clique imo
  2294. Byz - Last Wednesday at 9:20 PM
  2295. Yeah, only a few people were notified
  2296. Read Marx - Last Wednesday at 9:20 PM
  2297. Right, but the schism has to do with the way it's modded and how it's connected to the sub. We need to nuke the current server and completely restructure or migrate, which would've been less of a problem had at bare minimum, all sub mods been made aware of it the same time, at bare minimum with an announcement of the need for discussion in sub mod chat with link and @here.
  2298. uvoa - Last Wednesday at 9:20 PM
  2299. hi Pav, it exists & was a clique of mostly Hero of the USSR members (which was never removed btw, thanks for that) and a few other people
  2300. Pav - Last Wednesday at 9:21 PM
  2301. ah
  2302. uvoa - Last Wednesday at 9:21 PM
  2303. effectively to unilaterally remove most of the mod team and change the entire Discord entirely
  2304. enji - Last Wednesday at 9:21 PM
  2305. CENTCOM = Heroes pass it along
  2306. ♥ ConradeDoggo ♥ ᵒᵏ - Last Wednesday at 9:21 PM
  2307. @Pav logs of the chats from that server are pinned in general chat.
  2308. if the mods remove it i have them saved.
  2309. Let Them Tremble - Last Wednesday at 9:21 PM
  2310. Literally was about to hold elections when all that fuckery exploded
  2311. La Morsongona - Last Wednesday at 9:21 PM
  2312. It got unpinned
  2313. comrade mccarthy - Last Wednesday at 9:21 PM
  2314. elections between who
  2315. i didnt see anything about elections anywhere
  2316. Anon - Last Wednesday at 9:21 PM
  2317. @La Morsongona because no one ever gave us the chance to. We got together to talk it over with people who were online at the time and within 12 hours, and without any discussion it was screened here. We are talking about a server at the time less than 12 hours old and only a couple hours of discussion. Drastic action deserve thought and council before it is suggested to wider audiences. There is no reason to cause an issue if this wasn't something a lot of mods actually think.
  2318. uvoa - Last Wednesday at 9:22 PM
  2319. we literally
  2320. have screenshots
  2321. enji - Last Wednesday at 9:22 PM
  2322. You didn't make a group. You didn't do threaded DMs.
  2323. uvoa - Last Wednesday at 9:22 PM
  2324. if you saying mccarthy shouldnt get modded on the new server
  2325. enji - Last Wednesday at 9:22 PM
  2326. You made a server.
  2327. comrade mccarthy - Last Wednesday at 9:22 PM
  2328. :rofl:
  2329. Anon - Last Wednesday at 9:22 PM
  2330. What are threaded DMs?
  2331. enji - Last Wednesday at 9:22 PM
  2332. Then you named that server r/socialism
  2333. comrade mccarthy - Last Wednesday at 9:22 PM
  2334. and it has the iron curtain
  2335. enji - Last Wednesday at 9:22 PM
  2336. Put an #iron-curtain in it
  2337. And said all that shit you said.
  2338. CrumblyHandsomeCorbynizer - Last Wednesday at 9:23 PM
  2339. I stand by it tbh. Those were valid criticisms of mod conduct and reflects what's going on now
  2340. Read Marx - Last Wednesday at 9:23 PM
  2341. @Anon, you can make a group dm chat so you don't have to repeat yourself.
  2342. Anon - Last Wednesday at 9:23 PM
  2343. Wasn't aware of that tbh
  2344. comrade mccarthy - Last Wednesday at 9:23 PM
  2345. do you see LTT's name rn
  2346. Let Them Tremble - Last Wednesday at 9:24 PM
  2347. Again like, yes, I believe the community requires a fresh start. The entire structure of this server has been cumulative from past failed moderation policies
  2348. Jay - Last Wednesday at 9:24 PM
  2349. Speaking of iron-curtain can you please explain to me why the hell it was removed?
  2350. ♥ ConradeDoggo ♥ ᵒᵏ - Last Wednesday at 9:24 PM
  2351. Okay cool. Hand over server ownership and go do it.
  2352. CrumblyHandsomeCorbynizer - Last Wednesday at 9:24 PM
  2353. There was lot of mockery of Tremble earlier with all "Madame Tremble" talk tbh
  2354. comrade mccarthy - Last Wednesday at 9:24 PM
  2355. i dont know why it is funny to make fun of the serious concerns that i as a fucking victim of sexual assault made about those phrases
  2356. uvoa - Last Wednesday at 9:24 PM
  2357. Crumbly I am an admin of another Discord and I can safely say that when mods unilaterally try to remove people from the mod team, it doesn't end well and is probably one of the worst ways to handle it.
  2358. comrade mccarthy - Last Wednesday at 9:24 PM
  2359. white feminism bullshit
  2360. Let Them Tremble - Last Wednesday at 9:24 PM
  2361. Jesus
  2362. enji - Last Wednesday at 9:24 PM
  2363. This is the hill to die on(edited)
  2364. comrade mccarthy - Last Wednesday at 9:24 PM
  2365. LTT give server ownership to enji and please just leave
  2366. uvoa - Last Wednesday at 9:25 PM
  2367. So please stop acting like "oh you guys started it" when noooooooooooone of this would have happened if you had just addressed and talked about this with us.
  2368. CrumblyHandsomeCorbynizer - Last Wednesday at 9:25 PM
  2369. @comrade mccarthy so Anon or I don't get any fucking say in that McCarthy?
  2370. enji - Last Wednesday at 9:25 PM
  2371. Telling someone to get f-ck-d
  2372. comrade mccarthy - Last Wednesday at 9:25 PM
  2373. @CrumblyHandsomeCorbynizer you sure do, but you also arent making fun of me for bringing it up
  2374. enji - Last Wednesday at 9:25 PM
  2375. My word
  2376. Let Them Tremble - Last Wednesday at 9:25 PM
  2377. There's literally nothing I can say to demonstrate taking concerns seriously apart from nodding along in agreement
  2378. enji - Last Wednesday at 9:25 PM
  2379. I thought you had a mass movement to build
  2380. ♥ ConradeDoggo ♥ ᵒᵏ - Last Wednesday at 9:25 PM
  2381. Tremble
  2382. comrade mccarthy - Last Wednesday at 9:25 PM
  2383. please just leave
  2384. ♥ ConradeDoggo ♥ ᵒᵏ - Last Wednesday at 9:25 PM
  2385. you were incredibly condescending to comrade in that conversation
  2386. enji - Last Wednesday at 9:25 PM
  2387. Fry some bigger fish
  2388. ♥ ConradeDoggo ♥ ᵒᵏ - Last Wednesday at 9:25 PM
  2389. nobody gives a shit if you agree or disagree
  2390. enji - Last Wednesday at 9:25 PM
  2391. Jesus
  2392. uvoa - Last Wednesday at 9:25 PM
  2393. Tremble you clearly don't care so just leave and move
  2394. Let Them Tremble - Last Wednesday at 9:25 PM
  2395. So you keep saying
  2396. No
  2397. Derrida's Corbyniser - Last Wednesday at 9:26 PM
  2398. you were the one who was condescending from the start
  2399. uvoa - Last Wednesday at 9:26 PM
  2400. If you care then leave
  2401. ♥ ConradeDoggo ♥ ᵒᵏ - Last Wednesday at 9:26 PM
  2402. you were disrespectful and condescending and you refuse to even entertain the idea that you may be wrong.
  2403. Derrida's Corbyniser - Last Wednesday at 9:26 PM
  2404. why should we afford you any respect as it continues?
  2405. comrade mccarthy - Last Wednesday at 9:26 PM
  2406. please just leave
  2407. enji - Last Wednesday at 9:26 PM
  2408. If you're going to replace this server why won't you leave?
  2409. Let Them Tremble - Last Wednesday at 9:26 PM
  2410. You never afforded me respect lol, I was only ever an obstacle to your plans
  2411. enji - Last Wednesday at 9:26 PM
  2412. You were probably going to do it anyway.
  2413. ♥ ConradeDoggo ♥ ᵒᵏ - Last Wednesday at 9:26 PM
  2414. "plans"
  2415. comrade mccarthy - Last Wednesday at 9:26 PM
  2416. okay please just leave
  2417. enji - Last Wednesday at 9:26 PM
  2418. What plans?
  2419. ♥ ConradeDoggo ♥ ᵒᵏ - Last Wednesday at 9:26 PM
  2420. what is this fucking projection
  2421. enji - Last Wednesday at 9:26 PM
  2422. To do what?
  2423. Jay - Last Wednesday at 9:26 PM
  2424. Lmfao
  2425. Derrida's Corbyniser - Last Wednesday at 9:26 PM
  2426. yes
  2427. ♥ ConradeDoggo ♥ ᵒᵏ - Last Wednesday at 9:26 PM
  2428. Comrade isn't the one with a secret server to have mod plans
  2429. Derrida's Corbyniser - Last Wednesday at 9:26 PM
  2430. our devious plans to make this server more welcoming to sexual assault survivors
  2431. comrade mccarthy - Last Wednesday at 9:26 PM
  2432. LTT why wont you leave youre making a new server for the sub cna you just leave the community here alone
  2433. Pav - Last Wednesday at 9:26 PM
  2434. tremble, this is the kind of shit that led to the blowup with msfd. we don't criticize each others as mods until something happens and everything comes to a head
  2435. Derrida's Corbyniser - Last Wednesday at 9:27 PM
  2436. the absolute horror
  2437. enji - Last Wednesday at 9:27 PM
  2438. The fuck fight wasn't really planned and it was inconclusive anyway.
  2439. Jay - Last Wednesday at 9:27 PM
  2440. We didnt ping @here to not fucking talk about the action
  2441. enji - Last Wednesday at 9:27 PM
  2442. So you couldn't be talking about that.
  2443. comrade mccarthy - Last Wednesday at 9:27 PM
  2444. why do you need to retain power here if you have a new discord(edited)
  2445. for the sub
  2446. do an @ everyone and say this is no longer the official sub discord, you can put a new link in the sidebar
  2447. and you can do everything you wanted
  2448. and no one here is gonna stop you
  2449. except enji, probably
  2450. ♥ ConradeDoggo ♥ ᵒᵏ - Last Wednesday at 9:29 PM
  2451. "I was only ever an obstacle to your plans."
  2452.  
  2453. Like come on, this shows you've never had any respect that what comrade has been saying has been a legitimate concern. You've always approached this as if she has a sinister plan and haven't listened. Like how can you even argue this anymore?
  2454. Anon - Last Wednesday at 9:29 PM
  2455. Seriously, ever since Tremble disagreed about the F word debate I have seem people dog pile on her, and it's neither healthy nor nice. LTT has been a friend of most everyone here. What's the point of conversation if people will just dog pile on anyone who disagrees? Why not just command it to be so?
  2456. enji - Last Wednesday at 9:29 PM
  2457. I don't want any (potential) socialists to be put through this kind of thing.
  2458. ♥ ConradeDoggo ♥ ᵒᵏ - Last Wednesday at 9:29 PM
  2459. @Anon Comrade is a friend here too, and I'm not exactly fond of seeing Sexual Assault victims condescended for bringing up things that affect them because of it.
  2460. Pav - Last Wednesday at 9:30 PM
  2461. @Anon the issue with tremble was that she went off and made a secret server. i'm really disappointed that i have to side against her because i've always liked her
  2462. enji - Last Wednesday at 9:30 PM
  2463. So I will frustrate any effort to replace the server without consensus.
  2464. Tremble also accused a number of server mods of:
  2465. Just wanting extra power
  2466. uvoa - Last Wednesday at 9:30 PM
  2467. Anon, I am going to be upset with somebody for trying to unilaterally remove most of the modteam and re-make the server without anybody but a handful of people's input.
  2468. enji - Last Wednesday at 9:30 PM
  2469. Trying to make a "hermetically sealed" server
  2470. And, by the looks of that server of yours
  2471. Jay - Last Wednesday at 9:31 PM
  2472. Pav agreed with tremble abt the usage of fuck, this is about how everything afterwards was handled
  2473. enji - Last Wednesday at 9:31 PM
  2474. Doing PC gone wild
  2475. uvoa - Last Wednesday at 9:31 PM
  2476. Please stop acting like this is about the F word debate because I literally disagreed with McCarthy on it but I didn't throw a fit and try to kick her out of the modteam because of it.
  2477. comrade mccarthy - Last Wednesday at 9:31 PM
  2478. none of you mocked me either
  2479. or tried to be condescending towards me because of my feelings about it
  2480. even though BOTH uvie and pav disagreed
  2481. uvoa - Last Wednesday at 9:31 PM
  2482. She made good points and even though I disagreed I handled it like an adult and tried to move forward with it.
  2483. So I fundamentally do not understand where you think this is coming from.
  2484. Anon - Last Wednesday at 9:32 PM
  2485. @uvoa Its not about that, it's about what it was a clear sign of.
  2486. uvoa - Last Wednesday at 9:32 PM
  2487. I literally do not care about whether or not fuck gets banned or unbanned or dis-endorsed or suggested not to be used or whatever the hell the decision is because it doesn't matter and doesn't address the fundamental issue where this is coming from.
  2488. ♥ ConradeDoggo ♥ ᵒᵏ - Last Wednesday at 9:32 PM
  2489. The idea that this is happening because "I disagreed" and not because "I was deepy condescending and then tried to do things behind the servers back" just shows that EVEN NOW; you don't believe what we're telling you.
  2490. even now theres no listening.
  2491. comrade mccarthy - Last Wednesday at 9:32 PM
  2492. so plz just freaking leave hahahah
  2493. enji - Last Wednesday at 9:33 PM
  2494. These signs
  2495. I guess I can't read em
  2496. Anon - Last Wednesday at 9:33 PM
  2497. I am listening, I would have left if I didn't want to listen. But so far it seems like everyone wants to score point now.
  2498. uvoa - Last Wednesday at 9:33 PM
  2499. Am I scoring points?
  2500. ♥ ConradeDoggo ♥ ᵒᵏ - Last Wednesday at 9:33 PM
  2501. Okay thats literally what MSFD said.
  2502. La Morsongona - Last Wednesday at 9:33 PM
  2503. That proves you aren't listening
  2504. Derrida's Corbyniser - Last Wednesday at 9:33 PM
  2505. "scoring points"
  2506. this is some MSFD ass "getting blood" shit
  2507. uvoa - Last Wednesday at 9:33 PM
  2508. Are you going to accuse me of being out for blood too?
  2509. Anon - Last Wednesday at 9:33 PM
  2510. Yes, I saw what you all said to Tremble
  2511. CrumblyHandsomeCorbynizer - Last Wednesday at 9:34 PM
  2512. No it's not
  2513. Anon - Last Wednesday at 9:34 PM
  2514. you never gave her a chance to talk this morning
  2515. Jay - Last Wednesday at 9:34 PM
  2516. There is a lot of talking from the other side because ya'll are doing something unpopular
  2517. comrade mccarthy - Last Wednesday at 9:34 PM
  2518. i dont understand
  2519. Anon - Last Wednesday at 9:34 PM
  2520. I was really disheartened that it was all about her
  2521. comrade mccarthy - Last Wednesday at 9:34 PM
  2522. why you wont just give up server ownership
  2523. and go to your new server
  2524. Anon - Last Wednesday at 9:34 PM
  2525. Especially Enji's post on leftmod.
  2526. comrade mccarthy - Last Wednesday at 9:34 PM
  2527. what do you gain from staying here?
  2528. La Morsongona - Last Wednesday at 9:34 PM
  2529. I apologize for not letting Tremble speak, but it's hard to control the minds of 20 different people who all feel betrayed
  2530. enji - Last Wednesday at 9:34 PM
  2531. I named you in that leftmods post
  2532. And you're outed in the screen
  2533. It's not all about Tremble
  2534. Don't worry
  2535. uvoa - Last Wednesday at 9:35 PM
  2536. I don't care what happens honestly. Leave or don't leave it doesn't really matter, I have another Discord to moderate and administrate and I could absolutely spend more time there if you make the decision to lock me out.
  2537. But the merit of you trying to subvert the Discord away from the people who put time and effort into it is very disaheartening.
  2538. enji - Last Wednesday at 9:36 PM
  2539. But also
  2540. La Morsongona - Last Wednesday at 9:36 PM
  2541. @Anon this is half off topic, but some of us would like an answer to this question. What's going to happen to 101?
  2542. uvoa - Last Wednesday at 9:36 PM
  2543. And is incredibly frustrating because I had to deal with this in Political Discussion when the Reddit Moderators decided that the Discord-only mods were moving the Discord in a "bad" direction.
  2544. ♥ ConradeDoggo ♥ ᵒᵏ - Last Wednesday at 9:36 PM
  2545. You must have been reading a different conversation then Anon because I saw a lot of people angry that LTT had been condescending to a sexual assault victim and she was refusing to listen to anyone trying to talk or even call her out on it; in fact she was accusing people here of just wanting to expand their remits and making every accusation that we were not genuine in our concern.
  2546. AND THEN SHE MADE A SERVER TO REMOVE MODS BEHIND ALL OUR BACKS.
  2547.  
  2548. How can you even fucking defend this, Jesus Christ.
  2549. Read Marx - Last Wednesday at 9:36 PM
  2550. I personally don't feel that get fucked should be banned because it's used by 14 yo white boys in the gaming community to advocate sexual assault, but if sexual assault survivors have problems with its usage because of them, then it shouldn't be used.
  2551. Anon - Last Wednesday at 9:36 PM
  2552. So far there isn't a discussion here so I don't see why I should stay either. It's doesn't seem like any of you were actually interested in discussion. It seems more like this about how betrayed you all feel. Which I get and I do actually apologize. This was actually supposed to be put out there for real discussion on here. Unfortunately something things don't go like they oaught and this is what happenes.
  2553. enji - Last Wednesday at 9:37 PM
  2554. There's one major reason there's no discussion.
  2555. ♥ ConradeDoggo ♥ ᵒᵏ - Last Wednesday at 9:37 PM
  2556. @Anon okay, discuss my last post.
  2557. Derrida's Corbyniser - Last Wednesday at 9:37 PM
  2558. she
  2559. condescends someone who has openly said they are survivors of sa and have concerns with the sexual nature of a aprticular word
  2560. maks a server to remake r/soc purposely excluding people who are part of the server despite her reaoning for it including them
  2561.  
  2562. and then we are the ones who are disrespectful
  2563. ♥ ConradeDoggo ♥ ᵒᵏ - Last Wednesday at 9:37 PM
  2564. Whats the defence of any of that.
  2565. comrade mccarthy - Last Wednesday at 9:37 PM
  2566. see how easy it is to disagree without being condescending and making a breakaway server @Read Marx
  2567. enji - Last Wednesday at 9:37 PM
  2568. Anon out
  2569. 👍5
  2570. Tremble out
  2571. 👏5
  2572. Crumbly out
  2573. 👋5
  2574. Both the server and Reddit
  2575. Derrida's Corbyniser - Last Wednesday at 9:38 PM
  2576. not to mention tat many arguments made by her sound like someone who spends most of their time going #MAGA
  2577. comrade mccarthy - Last Wednesday at 9:38 PM
  2578. even anon says theres no point in staying
  2579. so please go
  2580. uvoa - Last Wednesday at 9:39 PM
  2581. Again, I'm in a very comfortable armchair right now with a Discord that I can go read about the next 5 steps to Donald Trump's impeachment but I do care about the people and friends who are here & as much as I am being mischaracterized despite never suggesting otherwise, DO want this server to be a fun and enjoyable place for people to hang out.
  2582. The Law 👩🏼⚖ - Last Wednesday at 9:39 PM
  2583. I don't understand why they won't confront Doggo's and Mccarthy's point about survivors
  2584. Derrida's Corbyniser - Last Wednesday at 9:40 PM
  2585. :pray::skin-tone-3: anon, crumbly, and tremble were sent back to Kolechia :pray::skin-tone-3:
  2586. Anon - Last Wednesday at 9:40 PM
  2587. @The Law 👩🏼⚖ because as a male survior of sexual assualt I don't really feel comfortable doing that tbh.
  2588. uvoa - Last Wednesday at 9:40 PM
  2589. Truthfully, stay or leave. But please do not be holier-than-thou when it comes to this discussion.
  2590. Jay - Last Wednesday at 9:40 PM
  2591. Make the damn server, link both, put yours above this one and say "for learning/new socialists and others", on the link for this one say "strict vetting" or some shit, or only link yours. But either way just make the damn server and remove yourselves. If you want to start a new project, I honestly dont see what the point of arguing about it is at this point(edited)
  2592. uvoa - Last Wednesday at 9:40 PM
  2593. It's very frustrating.
  2594. comrade mccarthy - Last Wednesday at 9:40 PM
  2595. just hecking leave
  2596. like please
  2597. The Law 👩🏼⚖ - Last Wednesday at 9:41 PM
  2598. @Anon im sorry i didnt realize
  2599. comrade mccarthy - Last Wednesday at 9:41 PM
  2600. how much do i have to beg you
  2601. Derrida's Corbyniser - Last Wednesday at 9:41 PM
  2602. you don't even mod here
  2603. Anon - Last Wednesday at 9:41 PM
  2604. @The Law 👩🏼⚖ It's okay, it's not your fault for not knowing if I haven't told you.
  2605. comrade mccarthy - Last Wednesday at 9:41 PM
  2606. anon why are you all staying if you already have the new server
  2607. Jay - Last Wednesday at 9:42 PM
  2608. But just dont nuke this server or start removing people. Its as simple as creating a new server and leaving this one
  2609. thats as hard as it needs to be
  2610. comrade mccarthy - Last Wednesday at 9:42 PM
  2611. you can erase all mentions of this server from the subreddit and we'll change the name and your new server will be the new r/socialism server
  2612. and you can invite people from here and it'll be all good we can have separate communities
  2613. MarxistMinx - Last Wednesday at 9:42 PM
  2614. That seems reasonable.
  2615. Anon - Last Wednesday at 9:42 PM
  2616. Because I've still got something to say
  2617. And I need a moment ot find the words
  2618. Derrida's Corbyniser - Last Wednesday at 9:43 PM
  2619. i doubt it
  2620. VinyardVinesFan1989 - Last Wednesday at 9:43 PM
  2621. I am quite upset at the way this has gone and the way it continues to go
  2622. comrade mccarthy - Last Wednesday at 9:43 PM
  2623. me too!
  2624. i think everyone here is
  2625. Derrida's Corbyniser - Last Wednesday at 9:43 PM
  2626. say Anon was sent to Kolechia
  2627. Byz - Last Wednesday at 9:43 PM
  2628. nods
  2629. uvoa - Last Wednesday at 9:43 PM
  2630. I have been tired of this discussion for like 3 months when it started in PD.
  2631. ♥ ConradeDoggo ♥ ᵒᵏ - Last Wednesday at 9:43 PM
  2632. @VinyardVinesFan1989 I honestly thought shit like this would never happen here tbh.
  2633. Anon - Last Wednesday at 9:43 PM
  2634. First, I am very sorry how this went, this was supposed to be a positive move to try to leave the baggage of the past behind and build the community in the future. I still consider you all friends and comrades. And again I am sorry for this.
  2635. Jay - Last Wednesday at 9:45 PM
  2636. the restructure really isnt an issue and I personally give yall the benefit of the doubt that centcom elections were to happen soon
  2637. uvoa - Last Wednesday at 9:45 PM
  2638. @♥ ConradeDoggo ♥ ᵒᵏ eh, I haven't been around here as much as you all but I kind of had a feeling that something like this was going to happen; it's why I left a few months ago for a couple of weeks.
  2639. ♥ ConradeDoggo ♥ ᵒᵏ - Last Wednesday at 9:46 PM
  2640. @uvoa i honestly thought we'd be able to restructure and sort out cultural issues before things came to a head.
  2641. I'm going to bed.
  2642. comrade mccarthy - Last Wednesday at 9:46 PM
  2643. night doggo
  2644. Derrida's Corbyniser - Last Wednesday at 9:47 PM
  2645. gn
  2646. Byz - Last Wednesday at 9:47 PM
  2647. Night Doggo
  2648. The Law 👩🏼⚖ - Last Wednesday at 9:47 PM
  2649. good night doggo
  2650. Jay - Last Wednesday at 9:47 PM
  2651. night doggo!!
  2652. Read Marx - Last Wednesday at 9:47 PM
  2653. Night doggo.
  2654. Unknown_Email - Last Wednesday at 10:30 PM
  2655. Alright, in case someone here wants to ask, i'll simply relay what i've said in a PM
  2656. this will be my final comment
  2657. on all of this
  2658. "I don't know any more doggo
  2659. i'm mentally and physically exhausted
  2660. i have finals soon
  2661. and my anxiety and other mental problems aren't being nice
  2662. honestly
  2663. I want no part in this drama
  2664. there's a reason I don't get involved in drama
  2665. because every time
  2666. i end up either crying or being close to
  2667. it tears me inside
  2668. whenever
  2669. and every single time
  2670. I see drama
  2671. i've nearly had enough
  2672. so to answer your question
  2673. I don't know"(edited)
  2674. So yeah, thanks a lot everyone. This whole affair is beyond petty. Neither lot of you have the moral high ground and frankly, I don't even know if I can continue operating in any /r/soc related community while maintaining my mental health at this rate. Thanks a lot for being so stuck up your asses and so cutthroat about this, for me to have my issues pushed back by months at the least. Thank you so very very much
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