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-Hookshot Skip Timing Attempt (not perfect, but will be decent approximation)
+Hookshot Skip Timing
 Imbued's original pastebin with lots more information: https://pastebin.com/3rWJEDNL
-Hookshot:
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 ===Cycle 2===
-* Note: hookshot route does faster equips in these timings than in reality; hookshot skip route saves time on equips by skipping ocarina equip after catching zora egg, edit: subtract .5s because now it does egg 2nd (164.4 - .5 = 163.9)
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-Zora Mask -> HESS + Superswim to PF -> fast 3 bomb -> HESS -> Egg -> Hookshot = 28.1 + 55.6 + 80.7 = 164.4
+[Hookshot]Zora Mask -> HESS + Superswim to PF -> fast 3 bomb -> HESS -> Egg -> Hookshot = 28.1 + 55.6 + 80.7 = 164.4
-	Zora Mask -> HESS + Superswim to PF = ???
+[No Hookshot]Zora Mask -> Hess + Superswim to PR -> PR egg = 21.8 + 46.34 = 68.14
-		Zora Mask -> equip: Zora, Deku -> HESS + Superswim to PF = 30.5 (https://www.twitch.tv/videos/164711811?t=1h56m)
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-		Zora Mask -> Deku -? HESS + Superswim to PF = 30.5 - 2.4 = 28.1
+Segment: -96.26s
-	Enter PF -> fast 3 bomb -> Enter inner PF = 55.6 (ennopp 1:21:36; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJDlIPShO5Q)
+OVERALL NO HOOKSHOT: -96.26s
-	Enter inner PF -> enter Hookshot -> equip: bottle -> Hookshot = 80.7 (sausage https://www.twitch.tv/videos/164711811?t=1h57m)
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 [Hookshot]Exit Zora Hall as Zora -> 1 Pause Fairy Pirate CS Skip -> Hookshot Turtle = 31.2 + 23.5 = 54.7
 [No Hookshot]Exit Zora Hall as Zora -> Turtle Hover -> turn human if zora ledge grab -> watch Pirate CS = 13 + 67 = 80
-Exit Zora Hall as Zora -> 1 Pause Fairy Pirate CS Skip -> Hookshot Turtle = 31.2 + 23.5 = 54.7
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-	Exit as Zora -> Sidehop for PCS = 31.24 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ips9SFbo2HE)
+Segment: +25.3s
-	Sidehop for PCS -> Hookshot Turtle -> stop walking in GBT = 23.51 (https://www.twitch.tv/videos/169210682?t=4h38m55s)
+OVERALL NO HOOKSHOT: -70.96s
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+
 [Hookshot]Enter Woodfall -> hookshot to main room -> hookshot torch -> torch = 11.8 + 6.18 = 17.98
-* Is Woodfall hover slight different because of chu for turtle hover? Actually Woodfall hover is the same. Hookshot Skip loses 1.5s during swamp gossips. (Sausage timed this)
+[No Hookshot]Control after Enter Woodfall -> mega to main -> torch mega -> torch = 32
 
 ===Cycle 3===
-Note: Start/Stop Timing when each door is about "1 foot" above the ground when it's closing
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-Enter Woodfall -> hookshot to main room -> hookshot torch -> enter door = 11.8 + 6.18 = 17.98
+Segment: +14.02s
-	Control after Enter Woodfall -> hookshot -> enter door = 14.20 - 2.4 = 11.8 (https://www.twitch.tv/videos/169210682?t=52h38m30s)
+OVERALL NO HOOKSHOT: -56.94s
-		Enter door -> hookshot -> enter door = 10.4 (https://www.twitch.tv/videos/169210682?t=5h38m50s)
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-		Enter door -> hookshot -> damage from torch = 6.18 (https://www.twitch.tv/videos/169210682?t=5h38m50s) * Use this
+[Hookshot]Enter Snowhead -> no icicles -> S'crow Skip -> Enter Wizrobe = 41.2 - 1.7 - .6 = 38.9 (realistic)
 [No Hookshot]Enter Snowhead -> Bridge Zora Jump -> Elevator Hover -> Arrow Drop + Enter Wizrobe = 25.6 + 28.95 = 54.55
 
-* Hookshot Skip Loses about .5s to FFAE (Sausage)
+Segment: +15.65s
 OVERALL NO HOOKSHOT: -41.29s
-* Note: subtract .6 to subtract the textbox to be consistent with hookshot skip timing: (35.27; 38.9)
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-Enter Snowhead -> Actionswap -> Scarecrow Skip -> Enter Wizrobe = 16.3 + 19.57 -.6 = 35.27  (human will never be this good)
+[Hookshot]Wizrobe -> hookshot torch -> bridge hover -> Control After Upstairs -> Store -> gain control = 42.6s
-	Enter Snowhead -> Bomb + Arrow Drop -> Melt Ice -> Enter Door = 16.3 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NC17Zdg_m1g)
+[No Hookshot]Wizrobe -> Store -> Long Jump -> Melt Ice (JP) -> Upstairs -> Bridge Hover = 17.85 + 37.3 = 55.15s
-	Enter Door -> Scarecrow Skip -> Arrow drop + Enter Wizrobe = 37.87 - 5.6 - 12.7 = 19.57 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7yFIrrJcz08)
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-	Control after Enter Snowhead -> no icicles -> Scarecrow Skip -> Enter Wizrobe = 41.2 - 1.7 - .6 = 38.9 (more realistic; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YkHm0KrDLpc)
+Segment: +12.55s
 OVERALL NO HOOKSHOT: -28.74s
 
-Exit Wizrobe -> hookshot torch -> bridge hover -> Control After Upstairs = 26.05 - 2.05 = 24 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NC17Zdg_m1g)
+===Cycle 4===
-Control after Upstairs -> Store SoT -> gain control = 18.6 (stopped timing when he started moving; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FbO9Cxcr1UQ&t=1h04m40s)
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 [Hookshot] SoS Stone Tower
 [No Hookshot]New Cycle -> turn Zora -> ECT Chest -> 10 bombs + 20 Chus -> turn human = 53 + 1.5 = 54.5
-New Cycle -> SoS Stone Tower = ??? (23? Make sure you are consistent with this part...; ignore this for now and say soars cancel and assume zora movement into stt is negligible for now)
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 Segment: +54.5s
 OVERALL NO HOOKSHOT: +25.76s
-Enter Mirror Room -> Weirdshot -> Enter Air Draft Room = 16.6 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7yFIrrJcz08)
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 [Hookshot]Enter Mirror Room -> Weirdshot -> Enter Air Draft Room = 16.6
 [No Hookshot]Enter Mirror Room -> Sun Block Hover -> Enter Air Draft Room = 19.7
-Enter Air Draft Room -> Weirdshot -> Enter Garo = 15.64 - 3.45 = 12.19 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kLhDKcX9pQg)
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 Segment: +3.1s
 OVERALL NO HOOKSHOT: +28.86s
-Enter ISTT -> SoT Storage -> Sun Block Clip + Recoil -> Eyegore -> Beamos -> Bomb + magic drop -> Enter twinmold = 8 + 46.54 + 27.55 = 82.09
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-	Enter ISTT -> SoT Storage -> gain control = 8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJDlIPShO5Q&t=1h07m40s)
+[Hookshot]Enter Air Draft Room -> Weirdshot -> Enter Garo = 15.64 - 3.45 = 12.19
 [No Hookshot]Enter Air Draft Room -> Recoils -> Enter Garo = 1.5 + 16.9 + 1.85 - 3.4 = 16.85
-	Control after SoT Storage -> Sunblock Clip + Recoil -> Eyegore -> Enter Door = 69.18 - 3.7 - 1 = 64.48 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJDlIPShO5Q) edit: this must have been a typo
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-	Redo: Control after SoT Storage -> Sunblock Clip + Recoil -> Eyegore -> Enter Door = 51.24 - 3.7 - 1 = 46.54(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KJDlIPShO5Q)
+Segment: +4.66s
 OVERALL NO HOOKSHOT: +33.52s
-	Enter Door -> Weirdshot beamos unbuffered -> bomb + magic drop -> Enter twinmold = 27.55 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fDe5AURCf9Y)
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 [Hookshot]Enter ISTT -> Storage -> Sun Block Clip  -> Eyegore -> Beamos -> Bomb + magic drop -> Enter twinmold = 82.09
 [No Hookshot]Enter ISTT -> magic drop + Long Jump -> hover BK Skip -> Enter Twinmold = 18.65 + 36.85 = 55.5
 
 Segment: -26.59s
-Hookshot Skip:
+OVERALL NO HOOKSHOT: +6.93s
 
-* Note: In reality, you don't have bomb already, but the corresponding timing above did have bomb already
+===Comparing Cycle 5===
-Zora Mask -> Hess + Superswim to PR -> PR egg = 21.8 + 46.34 = 68.14
+*Termina bomb skip is faster for hookshot and no hookshot, so strats for each will be considered
-	Zora Mask -> HESS + Superswim to PR = 13.96 + 1.5 + 6.34 = 21.8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BribUdQqg9U; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UlYbBsU_UQg)
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-	Enter PR -> equip: bremen bottle -> egg = 46.34 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bkn8vcz1nsw)
+[Hookshot] 2nd Nejiron bomb drop = 3.66
 [No Hookshot] Doesn't need 2nd Nejiron bomb drop = 0
 
-Exit Zora Hall as Zora -> Turtle Hover -> turn human if zora ledge grab -> watch Pirate CS = 13 + 67 = 80
+Segment: -3.66s
-	Control After Exiting Zora Hall as Zora -> Start CS = 16.01 - (1.5 + .5 + 1) = 13 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TfjtynHx0zg)
+OVERALL NO HOOKSHOT: +3.27s
-	Pirate Cutscene Start -> Link Stops walking in GBT = 67 (https://www.twitch.tv/videos/168984354?t=8h30m)
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 [Hookshot]Drop Bugs after bomb drop = 6.6
 [No Hookshot] Dupes chus, so it doesn't need to do the above = 0
-* Is Woodfall hover slight different because of chu for turtle hover? Actually Woodfall hover is the same, but we just wait to hover off of the swamp gossips root. This wastes 1.5s.
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 SEGMENT: -6.6s
 OVERALL NO HOOKSHOT: -3.33s
-Enter Woodfall -> mega to main room -> torch mega -> enter door = ??? 	(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yWnKMzmtexY&t=8m15s)
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-																		(https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L1RrLvJ4qsA&t=37m55s)
+[Hookshot]New Cycle -> Dog Hover into Clock Tower = 26.71
-																		Worst case, bomb + mega can make it
+[No Hookshot]New Cycle -> Chu Hover into Clock Tower = 13.86
-	Enter Woodfall -> mega to main room = 19.66 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xsHmdKi_uBA)
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-	Enter main room -> torch mega -> damage from torch = 12.0 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eKFjOGm3aEo)
+SEGMENT: -12.85s
 OVERALL NO HOOKSHOT: -16.18s
 
 [Hookshot]Enter Moon -> Superslide to Majora = 9.10
-* Hookshot Skip Loses about .5s to FFAE (sausage; hookshot skip FFAE also uses 2 fewer chus)
+[No Hookshot]Enter Moon -> backwalk Chu HESS to Majora = ~~~~11.5
 
 SEGMENT: Honestly, these would be equal in practice with a good Chu HESS
-Enter Snowhead -> Bridge Zora Jump -> Elevator Hover -> Arrow Drop + Enter Wizrobe = 25.6 + 28.95 = 54.55
+OVERALL NO HOOKSHOT: -16.18s
-	Enter Snowhead, turn zora -> Bomb Drop w/ barrier -> Open Door, jump as zora, go upstairs = ???
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-	Enter Snowhead, turn zora -> no icicles -> Open Door, jump as zora, go upstairs = 25.6
+===Equips===
-	control after go upstairs -> elevator hover -> door -> long jumps -> Arrow Drop + enter wizrobe = 28.95 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NX8tyUSCPrM)
+With optimal routes for each, hookshot skip saves 2 pauses for equips. Furthermore, not having the hookshot in your inventory makes equipping things faster, and some other equips, such as equipping the bottle to get the PR egg, are faster. So, conservatively, I'm saying 4s, although in practice it would likely be more than 4s.
 
 SEGMENT: -~4s
-Exit Wizrobe -> Store SoT -> Long Jump -> Melt Ice (JP) -> Upstairs -> Bridge Hover w/ mega = 17.85 + 37.3 = 55.15
+OVERALL NO HOOKSHOT: -20.18s
-	Exit Wizrobe -> Arrow Drop + Store SoT -> gain control = 17.85 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IkG7eoh5V10)
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-	Control after SoT Stored -> Long Jump -> Melt Ice -> Upstairs = ??? = X
+=====CONCLUSION=====
-	Upstairs -> Bridge Hover w/ mega -> Upstairs + gain control = ??? = Y
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-	X + Y = 37.3 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F3MZMftDMyM)
+Hookshot skip saves about 20 seconds, but this is 20 seconds faster than the Termina bomb skip no one did in the old route, so in practice, hookshot skip saves over 30s (approximately 33s, give or take).
 
 Hookshot skip saves a bunch of time getting the PR egg and then slowly bleeds time hovering onto the turtle, in Woodfall, Snowhead, and Stone Tower Temple, but gains a bunch of time in ISTT and being able to save chus for cycle 5.