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15:56	Sruixan	Did either of the wolves offer any sane and reasonable justification for that kill?
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15:57	ProfessorLizzard	Zen didn't. He just choose a random guy. And mehgamehn said okay.
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15:57	Sruixan	...
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15:57	Sruixan	...
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15:58	Sruixan	ok honestly how seriously have they been taking this
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15:58	Sruixan	I may be taking it a tad too seriously myself but it seems it's no fun unless you /try/
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16:01	ProfessorLizzard	The only thing I managed to decipher:
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16:01	ProfessorLizzard	With the Cop dead, he can't say, Zen is mafia. And BSBen doesn't trust MrGuy
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16:02	ProfessorLizzard	They think that the Traitor was not on the side of the mafia, but a third party, maybe
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16:02	Sruixan	except for the fact that BSBen is willing to go along with MrGuy for today at least
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16:04	Sruixan	oh hang on this is a little more awkward than it looks
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16:04	Sruixan	because with the assumption that everyone's hanging on to...
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16:06	ProfessorLizzard	Also, he wants to kill Wojjie too
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16:07	Sruixan	If Zen gets lynched, then either BSBen or MrGuy must die tonight. The death of the former would lead to MrGuy getting a wolf result on mehgamehn or a town result on Wojjie. Either way, mehgamehn gets lynched for town victory
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16:07	ProfessorLizzard	And what is MrGuy dies?
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16:08	Sruixan	In the other case, BSBen would need to be turned against Wojjie of the back of the "he [Zen] seems to me rather town, actually."
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16:08	Sruixan	which is the situation more likely to result in a wolf win
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16:09	ProfessorLizzard	The situation can go in either way
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16:09	ProfessorLizzard	It depends on BSBen
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16:09	Sruixan	Exactly
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16:10	Sruixan	A MrGuy kill would have made things a fair bit easier, I would have thought.
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16:12		*** Sruixan is now known as Sruxy[shower]
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16:39		*** Sruxy[shower] is now known as Sruixan
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16:40	Sruixan	Ok, I thought about this a bit more in the shower
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16:40	ProfessorLizzard	yes?
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16:40	Sruixan	If the wolves target Wojjie tonight, will Wojjie get to know that she was hit?
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16:41	ProfessorLizzard	Yes, she will.
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16:42	Sruixan	urgh right I am hoping mehgamehn kills MrGuy tonight then, I think. If so, mDoc, wProof and W are through.
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16:43	Sruixan	Can BSBen self-protect?
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16:43	ProfessorLizzard	No. Also, that only worked against mafia
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16:43	Sruixan	Well damn.
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16:44	ProfessorLizzard	So, BSBen is effectively Vanilla against you
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16:44	Sruixan	Since I was thinking that he would want to lynch the wolf, since he could force a Happily-Ever-After Situation if he and the mafioso are left and it shouldn't take too much to persuade him that mehgamehn is the mafioso
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16:45	Sruixan	since he was after all the person who said "don't lynch mafia today plz"
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16:45	ProfessorLizzard	We shall see the result. Maybe today. Depends on when they log on.
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16:46	Sruixan	I just fear that, come tomorrow, the percieved situation will be 1 town, 1 maf, 1 wolf
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16:46	Sruixan	whereas it will actually be 2 town 1 wolf
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16:47	ProfessorLizzard	Naw, that is AutoWin for the Wolves, if that happens.
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16:47	ProfessorLizzard	Wait no
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16:47	ProfessorLizzard	Sorry, misread
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16:47	Sruixan	no, it wouldn't be. That's the problem
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16:47	ProfessorLizzard	I know, my eyes just slipped. Or however you say that
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16:48	Sruixan	it's something like that
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16:48	Sruixan	ok right I'm thinking now
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16:48	Sruixan	tonight there will either be 1 or 0 kills
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16:49	Sruixan	now in the situation of the former, BSBen will assume that he protected the second kill target
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16:49	Sruixan	therefore the person he targets is confirmed not-mafia
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16:50	ProfessorLizzard	Well, I don't have to tell him if he misunderstoods his role. XD
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16:50	Sruixan	misunderstood
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16:50	Sruixan	wait, what does he think it is?
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16:52	ProfessorLizzard	Oh wait. He still thinks that there is one more mafia.
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16:52	Sruixan	exactly
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16:52	Sruixan	actually
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16:53	Sruixan	hand on
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16:53	Sruixan	*hang
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16:53	Sruixan	who did he target tonight?
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16:54	ProfessorLizzard	Knaleidos.
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16:54	ProfessorLizzard	He should know that it was a wolf kill by this...
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16:54	Sruixan	quite
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16:55	Sruixan	that might actually be advantageous
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16:57	Sruixan	why would the wolves go for the /mafia/ cop rather than the wolf cop? You could arguably construe that to mean that MrGuy is in fact a wolf masquerading as wolf cop who bussed me D1 to almost confirm him. The referenced "ace up our sleeve" could well be the fact that we accidentally hit the wolf cop N1 and figured we could work with that
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16:57	Sruixan	except for the fact that that logic is so convoluted it would have made Escher throw up
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16:59	ProfessorLizzard	Meh, Escher could survive it. We'll, we will see what Wojjie decides. To Lynch, or not?
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16:59	Sruixan	If she doesn't tomorrow is going to be so much more fun
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17:02	ProfessorLizzard	Well, she might post soon, she was in the games forum not too long ago
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17:18	Sruixan	ok Wojjie I love you now
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17:19	Sruixan	on the grounds of what I said not twenty minutes ago
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17:22	ProfessorLizzard	Oh my.
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17:22	ProfessorLizzard	:o
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17:26	Sruixan	the great thing about that is
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17:26	Sruixan	that the votals are currently Zen (2) and MrGuy (1)
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17:27	Sruixan	three to lynch
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17:27	Sruixan	there are two wolves out there with no placed votes
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17:28	ProfessorLizzard	!
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17:28	Sruixan	As long as Zen is not silly enough to self-hammer, I do believe we have won
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17:28	ProfessorLizzard	I guess I have to start writing the PMs for thex next game a day earlier XD
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17:28	ProfessorLizzard	Eh, Zen can do anything! XD
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17:28	Sruixan	That's my problem
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17:29	Sruixan	He should get online very, very soon
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17:29	Sruixan	Now, be he town or scum, he /should/ vote for Wojjie; it's the only sane and reasonable vote to make
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17:29	Sruixan	which would allow mehgamehn to hammer and win
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17:30	Sruixan	or, an even better circumstance
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17:30	Sruixan	would be if BSBen switched votes
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17:31	Sruixan	due to his already noted suspicions of Wojjie and that post being the clincher
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17:35	Sruixan	SHOCKING NEW DEVELOPMENT!
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17:35	Sruixan	BSBen has unvoted Zen
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17:36	Sruixan	therefore, as long as Zen does /not/ vote for Wojjie until BSBen has
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17:36	Sruixan	we win
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17:37	ProfessorLizzard	Oh my. This is getting even more intricating.
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17:37	Sruixan	I am cheering from beyond the grave
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17:37	ProfessorLizzard	Wait until you see... Conspiracy Town >: D
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17:37	Sruixan	I am looking forward to that
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17:38	Sruixan	Is it going to be very conspiracy-ish? Because that would make it /awesome/
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17:40	ProfessorLizzard	Hopefully.
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17:40	Sruixan	*rubs hands together in anticipation*
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17:40	ProfessorLizzard	Currently I am checking somethings, not to be too unbalanced.
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17:40	ProfessorLizzard	Well, it might NOT be that good, but I had fun designing it.
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17:40	Sruixan	That does remind me. I must check to see if the PM logs for Death Note mafia ever got finished
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17:41	Sruixan	because I spectated that game and it was all conspiracy-ish and it was /awesome/
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17:47	ProfessorLizzard	Heh : D
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17:49	Sruixan	hmph. The log has D1 and D4 but nothing in the middle...
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17:53	Sruixan	http://forums.xkcd.com/viewtopic.php?f=53&t=60622
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17:53	Sruixan	if you ever have two hours to kill
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17:53	Sruixan	then that will probably do it
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17:54	ProfessorLizzard	I will definitely look at it.
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17:55	Sruixan	SHOCKING DEVELOPMENT III
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17:55	Sruixan	mehgamehn is now online
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17:55	ProfessorLizzard	Now we have to wait for Zen.
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18:01	ProfessorLizzard	MEHGAMEHN VOTED
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18:04	Sruixan	YES!
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18:04	Sruixan	ZEN IS ONLINE!
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18:04	Sruixan	he is viewing his subscribed threads
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18:04	Sruixan	my heart is pounding here
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18:08	ProfessorLizzard	The excitement!
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18:10	ProfessorLizzard	Okay, now I really have to start writing the new PMs XD
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18:11	Sruixan	ok at this rate I am tempted to drop him a PM saying "HAMMER YOU FOOL"
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18:12	ProfessorLizzard	I want to do it too.
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18:29		*** Sruixan is now known as Sruxy[afk]
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18:29	Sruxy[afk]	man I am going to be so tense over dinner
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18:30	Sruxy[afk]	I'm going to have to come up with some excuse to run away from it after it's finished
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18:30	ProfessorLizzard	Heh XD Hopefully, Zen will be quick...
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18:34	ProfessorLizzard	FFFFFFFF HE LOGGED OF
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18:57	Sruxy[afk]	PL
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18:57	Sruxy[afk]	look at this
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18:57	Sruxy[afk]	http://www.mspaforums.com/showthread.php?31513-Weird-Mafia.-Currently-playing-WvsMvsT-%28DAY-5%29/page10
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18:57	Sruxy[afk]	it is a hammer
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18:58	ProfessorLizzard	Stop!
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18:58	ProfessorLizzard	Its Hammer time!
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19:07	ProfessorLizzard	Done!
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19:07	ProfessorLizzard	Congratulations!