Brahim and Ock part 2, rough

(10:17:49 PM) amaranthineSwell: Yes, the bitch.  You didn't have to deal with the repercussions of her tormenting your cohort.  Or being written about.
(10:18:07 PM) timedZephyr [[email protected]] entered the room.
(10:18:11 PM) musicalDecay left the room.
(10:18:51 PM) lunarLungfish: Yeah, I just kinda ignore her.
(10:19:13 PM) lunarLungfish: She's a bit of a pain, but I wouldn't go so far as to call her a bitch.
(10:19:34 PM) amaranthineSwell: So did you get the message, or are we pretending that it didn't happen?
(10:19:36 PM) lunarLungfish: So again, bro
(10:19:37 PM) lunarLungfish: 'sup?
(10:19:41 PM) lunarLungfish: Yeah, of course I did
(10:19:53 PM) lunarLungfish: I already told you that.
(10:20:06 PM) ventricularPipefitter: (( Toni's totally a little bitch. ))
(10:20:16 PM) ventricularPipefitter: (( She's not *just*, or *only*, but when she's mean? ))
(10:20:29 PM) amaranthineSwell: You did not--
(10:20:30 PM) amaranthineSwell: ...
(10:20:32 PM) ***amaranthineSwell sighs.
(10:21:09 PM) amaranthineSwell: Because fucking /Sand/, I'm just going to link this /again/.
(10:21:10 PM) amaranthineSwell: http://pastebin.com/LsB96nBi
(10:23:07 PM) amaranthineSwell: So can we talk this over like decent people or do I have to keep nursing my temper?  Because this is getting fucking exhausting.
(10:23:52 PM) lunarLungfish: Before I finish reading it, is it /all/ a self-justifying sermon about how you're right and /I/ need to listen to /you/?
(10:24:10 PM) lunarLungfish: Or will /you/ also listen to /me/?
(10:24:31 PM) amaranthineSwell: Goes both ways, Brahim.
(10:24:48 PM) lunarLungfish: Fine. I'll listen if you will.
(10:24:58 PM) lunarLungfish: You sure as shit didn't sound like you were willing to listen last time.
(10:26:23 PM) amaranthineSwell: Maybe because as soon as I said that I had something /serious/ that I wanted to talk about you said that no you were just going to blow me off until later for whatever /unfathomable/ reason.
(10:26:52 PM) lunarLungfish: Well NORMALLY when you get all worked up and shit, I can just bug off until you calm down and then things are alright again.
(10:27:13 PM) lunarLungfish: Or at least until you get the worse of it out of the way, and then I can calm you down the rest.
(10:27:34 PM) amaranthineSwell: Normally it's not aimed at you and you listen while I rant.
(10:27:50 PM) lunarLungfish: Yeah, but I keep my distance when the volume gets too high
(10:27:54 PM) lunarLungfish: or the volume of broken shit gets too high
(10:28:32 PM) lunarLungfish: So alright, you're not going to cool off this time
(10:28:40 PM) lunarLungfish: tell me
(10:28:55 PM) lunarLungfish: What the fuck did /I/ do to earn your fucking ire, Ock?
(10:29:00 PM) ***amaranthineSwell sighs.
(10:29:18 PM) amaranthineSwell: What, exactly, do you know about Lilura?  Specifically, her past.
(10:29:39 PM) lunarLungfish: She had one
(10:29:44 PM) lunarLungfish: Spent it with you, I heard
(10:30:05 PM) lunarLungfish: Musta been pretty wickedsick in your home 'verse.
(10:30:13 PM) lunarLungfish: She's fucking /radsicknasty/ in strifing.
(10:30:42 PM) lunarLungfish: I pretty much needed to use a good fraymotif to keep up with her. She's a fucking challenge for sure!
(10:30:54 PM) lunarLungfish: Not many trolls that can punk me out when we meet like she did.
(10:31:18 PM) lunarLungfish: She kinda, uh
(10:31:44 PM) lunarLungfish: She kinda made the biggest black impression on me, punking me out like that.
(10:31:58 PM) lunarLungfish: And then when I went to visit her spire and grab her to open a dungeon?
(10:32:02 PM) lunarLungfish: She just fucking walked out of the shower.
(10:32:03 PM) lunarLungfish: Naked.
(10:32:11 PM) lunarLungfish: No towel or anything.
(10:32:37 PM) lunarLungfish: Just fucking parading by with those /horns/ sticking up out of her /hair/ and that /muscle/ /tone/ holy shit
(10:32:38 PM) amaranthineSwell: ... can we not detail this exactly, please?
(10:32:43 PM) lunarLungfish: sorry
(10:32:44 PM) lunarLungfish: she's
(10:32:53 PM) lunarLungfish: Yeah, bro. Sure.
(10:32:54 PM) amaranthineSwell: Stunning, yes, I know.
(10:32:57 PM) lunarLungfish: So what about her past?
(10:33:11 PM) amaranthineSwell: She ever said anything about her kismeses?  Or other quadrants?
(10:34:00 PM) lunarLungfish: Well, you said you were kinda flushed for her once, but you were also flushed for someone else, kinda? But that other flush cheated on you with her diamond and ... fuck bro, it all got confusing.
(10:34:12 PM) lunarLungfish: I haven't seen a quadrantmess that bad outside of lousy fanfiction.
(10:34:13 PM) amaranthineSwell: Mm.
(10:34:20 PM) amaranthineSwell: ... /thanks/.
(10:35:05 PM) lunarLungfish: Just callin' it as I see it, bro. It's VERY EASY for me to resist saying things like that because my Whisperings are SO QUIET and DON'T WANT ME TO CAUSE DISRUPTIONS AT ALL.
(10:35:17 PM) amaranthineSwell: You say that like I don't know it.
(10:35:38 PM) lunarLungfish: Don't cut me any slack here, I clearly mean to insult you and shit.
(10:36:05 PM) ***amaranthineSwell sighs.
(10:36:19 PM) amaranthineSwell: Don't mean to jump down your throat, calm down.
(10:36:44 PM) amaranthineSwell: She's had... four kismeses?  Mm.  Something like that.
(10:36:54 PM) amaranthineSwell: And yes, she and I were matesprits of a sort, for a time.
(10:36:57 PM) lunarLungfish: I don't judge.
(10:37:29 PM) amaranthineSwell: Mm.
(10:37:39 PM) amaranthineSwell: And I've known her since before we were three.
(10:38:35 PM) amaranthineSwell: So if I said that you didn't want to be your kismesis, it probably means something, mm?
(10:39:21 PM) lunarLungfish: I didn't want to be my kismesis?
(10:39:28 PM) lunarLungfish: What am I, a Rain or Time player, now?
(10:39:31 PM) amaranthineSwell: *want her to be
(10:39:37 PM) amaranthineSwell: Thank you for pointing out the typo.
(10:39:47 PM) amaranthineSwell: *don't, too.
(10:39:52 PM) lunarLungfish: You're welcome, bro. Here to fucking serve.
(10:40:27 PM) amaranthineSwell: I know how she pities.  I've seen the results of how she hates, and has been hated.
(10:40:39 PM) amaranthineSwell: And quite frankly, you want /nothing/ to do with her black quadrant.
(10:40:53 PM) lunarLungfish: Wwwwwwwwwhy?
(10:41:11 PM) lunarLungfish: Wait wait wait, let me get this straight.
(10:41:20 PM) lunarLungfish: You think we shouldn't be black
(10:41:35 PM) amaranthineSwell: Yes.
(10:42:10 PM) lunarLungfish: so you are hopping into my ashen quadrant and yelling at me like fucking crazy because of it?
(10:42:31 PM) lunarLungfish: Tell me there is more to the story than this. You really want to be black with her or something, and I'm bulgeblocking you.
(10:42:45 PM) amaranthineSwell: Wh- no.
(10:43:00 PM) amaranthineSwell: She and I are broken up for /damn/ /good/ /reason/.  Unrelated to black.
(10:43:13 PM) amaranthineSwell: I am not hopping into your ashen quadrant.
(10:43:32 PM) amaranthineSwell: I'm /trying/ to keep you from getting hurt and /trying/ to keep her mind from being shattered any more than it already /is/.
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(10:44:30 PM) lunarLungfish: A: Sorry for your broken heart, Ock. Non-Sand, really I am.
(10:44:54 PM) lunarLungfish: B: You'd better FUCKING not hop into my ashen quadrant. I will fucking slap the shit out of you if you do.
(10:45:15 PM) lunarLungfish: C: I'm fucking tough, and I've been black before. I know what I'm doing.
(10:45:17 PM) amaranthineSwell: I am happily in an ash quadrant already.  Don't flatter yourself, Brahim.
(10:45:20 PM) amaranthineSwell: ... and thanks.
(10:45:25 PM) amaranthineSwell: No, listen.
(10:45:28 PM) amaranthineSwell: This is /different/.
(10:45:32 PM) lunarLungfish: and D: The fuck do you mean by her mind being shattered?
(10:45:41 PM) amaranthineSwell: She doesn't do /black/ like she /should/, like anyone else does.
(10:45:54 PM) lunarLungfish: Is that why she's been hiding for days and days?
(10:46:01 PM) amaranthineSwell: I've had to hold her and put her back together after another kis did... did awful things to her.
(10:46:05 PM) amaranthineSwell:  /Awful/ things.
(10:46:13 PM) lunarLungfish: What the fucking shit, bro.
(10:46:17 PM) amaranthineSwell: And then after what Evan did--
(10:46:35 PM) lunarLungfish: You mean the serial godtier murderfest freak thing?
(10:46:45 PM) amaranthineSwell: Mm.
(10:46:49 PM) lunarLungfish: Fucking HELL, Ock. Do you really think I'd murder her like that?
(10:46:58 PM) lunarLungfish: BRO, you KNOW me better that that.
(10:46:58 PM) amaranthineSwell: No, I'm not--
(10:47:02 PM) amaranthineSwell: Would you let me EXPLAIN?
(10:47:09 PM) lunarLungfish: Yes. Fine. Expain.
(10:47:12 PM) amaranthineSwell: I'm /trying/ to get to the point and you know what fuck this
(10:47:13 PM) amaranthineSwell: Okay.
(10:47:16 PM) amaranthineSwell: So she pitied me.
(10:47:21 PM) amaranthineSwell: Hotter than a sun.
(10:47:51 PM) lunarLungfish: I thought you didn't want anybody's pity.
(10:47:57 PM) amaranthineSwell: And you know what?
(10:48:04 PM) lunarLungfish: You know what, go on. Answer it later.
(10:48:23 PM) lunarLungfish: I sure as fuck do NOT know what. Tell your fucking story.
(10:48:34 PM) amaranthineSwell: She did /this/ to someone she /pitied/.  http://fc00.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2012/275/d/3/ock_doodles_part_four_by_mnemonides-d5gmwh0.jpg ( fc00.deviantart.net/fs71/i/2012/275/d/3/ock_doodles_part_four_by_mnemonides-d5gmwh0.jpg )
(10:48:43 PM) lunarLungfish: What the shit, dude.
(10:48:43 PM) lunarLungfish: That
(10:48:46 PM) amaranthineSwell: ((Notably, the clawed scars down his back.))
(10:48:48 PM) lunarLungfish: does NOT look like pity tome.
(10:49:07 PM) amaranthineSwell: Understand /now/ that there are bigger problems here?
(10:49:20 PM) lunarLungfish: NOW I understand why you don't want anybody's pity.
(10:49:28 PM) lunarLungfish: Shit, I'd have broken up with her, too.
(10:49:41 PM) lunarLungfish: You're better off now, bro.
(10:49:44 PM) amaranthineSwell: She did that to someone she pitied.
(10:49:49 PM) lunarLungfish: Trust me on this one.
(10:49:55 PM) amaranthineSwell: Do you /want/ to know what would happen if she did that to someone she /hates/?
(10:50:06 PM) lunarLungfish: Dude, obviously she fucking hated /you/
(10:50:12 PM) lunarLungfish: or else she wouldn't have done that shit.
(10:50:14 PM) amaranthineSwell: Her kis /broke/ her and she's been trying to put herself back together ever since.
(10:50:36 PM) amaranthineSwell: She also had the /fun/ and /wonderful/ opportunity to go undercover as a seablood.
(10:50:42 PM) amaranthineSwell: Do you know how they do that?
(10:50:47 PM) lunarLungfish: What the fuck even
(10:50:52 PM) lunarLungfish: Undercover blooder?
(10:51:05 PM) amaranthineSwell: They pump you full of chemicals and force you to go through nice little fits of feral rage to properly play the part.
(10:51:17 PM) amaranthineSwell: And I had to help her throught /those/.
(10:51:41 PM) lunarLungfish: Fucking shit
(10:51:44 PM) amaranthineSwell: This was coming off one where she had to match my chroma.
(10:51:46 PM) amaranthineSwell: *through
(10:51:48 PM) lunarLungfish: I ASSUME that was BEFORE she turned psycho and
(10:51:51 PM) lunarLungfish: oh
(10:52:05 PM) lunarLungfish: so she clawed you up because she had ragejuice in her veins?
(10:52:35 PM) amaranthineSwell: Mm.  Even despite what she wanted to do.
(10:52:59 PM) lunarLungfish: Shit, that's kinda understandable.
(10:53:03 PM) lunarLungfish: She wasn't really herself, was she?
(10:53:11 PM) amaranthineSwell: No.
(10:53:12 PM) amaranthineSwell: She wasn't.
(10:53:43 PM) amaranthineSwell: Well, that's not fair.
(10:53:43 PM) amaranthineSwell: She was.
(10:54:01 PM) amaranthineSwell: But she couldn't stop herself.
(10:54:15 PM) lunarLungfish: So she doesn't do that kind of thing to people she pities, normally.
(10:54:35 PM) lunarLungfish: So your whole "This is what she does to people she pities" line was what...
(10:54:54 PM) amaranthineSwell: I don't know of anyone else she pitied, besides Kamsya.
(10:54:57 PM) lunarLungfish: a statement that you knew wasn't really true, but you said to try to get me to break up my spade with her?
(10:55:02 PM) amaranthineSwell: No.
(10:55:19 PM) lunarLungfish: Would she ever do that AGAIN to someone she pities?
(10:55:28 PM) amaranthineSwell: It's showing that she can be /dangerous/ to people she pities, and that she can do even /worse/ to someone she's black with.
(10:55:47 PM) amaranthineSwell: And there's enough abuse from her kismeses in the past that she isn't /capable/ of doing black in a /healthy/ /way/.
(10:55:52 PM) amaranthineSwell: And I don't trust her not to hurt you.
(10:55:53 PM) musicalDecay [[email protected]] entered the room.
(10:56:16 PM) lunarLungfish: So I just kinda
(10:56:23 PM) lunarLungfish: won't fill her with feralragejuice
(10:56:43 PM) lunarLungfish: That sounds like a fucking thing I don't want to do.
(10:56:46 PM) amaranthineSwell: adksljfasjd
(10:56:52 PM) amaranthineSwell: That's /not/ what I'm getting at here.
(10:57:16 PM) lunarLungfish: No, it sounds like a pretty good tip to me.
(10:57:36 PM) lunarLungfish: Don't think I'd have done it anyways, she's pretty fucking uncannysick.
(10:58:10 PM) unseeingAugur [[email protected]] entered the room.
(10:58:25 PM) amaranthineSwell: Nrrrrrrrrrrrrrgh.
(10:58:36 PM) amaranthineSwell: [>Ock: Take deep breaths.  Don't break your computer, that won't help anything.]
(10:58:44 PM) amaranthineSwell: Brahim, if you listen to nothing else I say tonight:
(10:59:22 PM) amaranthineSwell: I don't want Lilura in a caliginous relationship because she cannot do them in a way that's healthy for her because she's been /abused/ and rendered /incapable/ of doing so.
(10:59:34 PM) amaranthineSwell:  /Especially/ /now/ when she's suffering emotional and mental /trauma/.
(10:59:46 PM) amaranthineSwell: Which is why I'm trying to get you to stop /talking/ /at/ /her/.
(11:00:18 PM) lunarLungfish: I don't think that's your call to make, actually.
(11:00:27 PM) lunarLungfish: If she wants to enter a relationship, that's up to her
(11:00:54 PM) lunarLungfish: and it's kinda weird that you're going all lusus over her.
(11:01:05 PM) lunarLungfish: speaking of which
(11:01:16 PM) lunarLungfish: What the fuck is WITH this trauma shit you keep hinting at but NEVER TALKING ABOUT?
(11:01:30 PM) amaranthineSwell: Because she can't tell me what exactly they did to her.
(11:01:37 PM) amaranthineSwell: And what I /do/ know makes me coddamn /sick/.
(11:02:10 PM) lunarLungfish: So there's trauma shit
(11:02:21 PM) lunarLungfish: Who fucking DOESN'T, with all the shit this game throws at you?
(11:02:23 PM) amaranthineSwell: And if you're going to insist on being in a relationship with her, I'm not going to give you any ammo.
(11:02:25 PM) lunarLungfish: How many people have you lost?
(11:02:36 PM) amaranthineSwell:  /Enough/.
(11:02:45 PM) lunarLungfish: Exactly.
(11:02:58 PM) amaranthineSwell: I'm not here to play let's-measure-our-misery-bulges with you.
(11:03:25 PM) lunarLungfish: No shit, that does not sound like a fun fucking game.
(11:03:38 PM) lunarLungfish: But fuck, bro
(11:03:59 PM) lunarLungfish: if you just walk the fuck away from everyone with trauma, you'll be hitting on first- and second-session kids the rest of your life.
(11:04:14 PM) ***amaranthineSwell throws his hands up in the air.
(11:04:19 PM) amaranthineSwell: It's not just normal game trauma!
(11:04:28 PM) amaranthineSwell: This has been ingrained in her for /sweeps/.
(11:04:33 PM) amaranthineSwell: I've /watched/ this disaster.
(11:04:42 PM) amaranthineSwell: I don't want it to happen over and over again!
(11:05:03 PM) amaranthineSwell: Especially not with a kismesis who doesn't respect her right to /privacy/ and posts a pailing video on the /public/ /chat/.
(11:05:28 PM) lunarLungfish: Oh
(11:05:36 PM) lunarLungfish: NOW we finally get to your real problem.
(11:05:52 PM) amaranthineSwell: How the fuck do you chart the course that this is my problem?
(11:05:53 PM) lunarLungfish: At least it only took a fucking hour!
(11:06:10 PM) lunarLungfish: This is the real problem you have with me right now
(11:06:16 PM) lunarLungfish: that I posted that fucking video.
(11:06:22 PM) amaranthineSwell: No.
(11:06:23 PM) lunarLungfish: Jeez, it wasn't even fucking ABOUT her, bro!
(11:06:23 PM) amaranthineSwell: It isn't.
(11:06:27 PM) amaranthineSwell: ...
(11:06:29 PM) amaranthineSwell: So.
(11:06:39 PM) amaranthineSwell: ˙ɹǝɥ ƃuısn ʇsnɾ ǝɹ,noʎ ʍou oS
(11:06:47 PM) lunarLungfish: What? No, FUCK.
(11:07:05 PM) amaranthineSwell: ˙noʎ llıʞ ʇ,usǝop ǝɥs ǝdoɥ I  ˙dn ǝʌıƃ ƃuıʞɔnɟ I  ˙dn ǝʌıƃ I  ˙ǝdou 'ǝdou 'ǝdoN  ˙sıɥʇ op ʇ,uɐɔ I  ˙oN  ¿ʇɐɥʍ ʍouʞ noʎ
(11:07:09 PM) lunarLungfish: I didn't POST it to try to do something to her
(11:07:26 PM) lunarLungfish: Ockzel fucking Tewbor
(11:07:43 PM) lunarLungfish: Calm your fucking rumble spheres and sit your ass down and fucking TALK to me.
(11:08:08 PM) amaranthineSwell: ˙ƃNIʎ∀S ƃuıʞɔnɟ ɯ,I ʇɐɥʍ oʇ ƃuıuǝʇsıl /ʎlsnoıʌqo/ ǝɹ,noʎ ǝsnɐɔǝq
(11:08:41 PM) lunarLungfish: Ock, bro, you already decided how this shit was gonna go.
(11:08:54 PM) lunarLungfish: Can we deviate from the fucking script, now?
(11:08:54 PM) amaranthineSwell: ˙˙˙
(11:09:21 PM) lunarLungfish: This is the part where I tell you to pour some cold water over your fins and chill out for a second
(11:09:37 PM) lunarLungfish: and then you tell me to fuck off but actually DO chill out for a second and flip your text back rightside up
(11:09:43 PM) lunarLungfish: BRO
(11:09:53 PM) lunarLungfish: fucking pour some cold water over your fins and chill out for a second
(11:10:56 PM) amaranthineSwell: ˙snoıɹnɟ os ɯ,I ʎɥʍ ʇno ǝɹnƃıɟ noʎ uǝɥʍ uıɐƃɐ ǝɯ oʇ ʞlɐ⊥  ˙ǝuop ɯ,I  ˙ǝdoN
(11:11:15 PM) amaranthineSwell: ˙ɟɟo ʞɔnɟ uɐɔ noʎ 'ǝldoǝd ǝʞıl ǝldoǝd ʇɐǝɹʇ uɐɔ noʎ lıʇu∩
(11:11:25 PM) lunarLungfish: Not gonna be able to do that without talking to you, Ock.
(11:11:51 PM) lunarLungfish: Sweet jegus fuck. And there's the "you're not treating her right" thing again.
(11:11:58 PM) lunarLungfish: We are clearly still on the fucking script.
(11:12:09 PM) amaranthineSwell: ˙ssoᴚ oʇ ʞlɐ⊥  ˙ǝuop  ˙ǝdoN
(11:12:18 PM) amaranthineSwell: ˙ǝıp oʇ ʇou ʎɹ⊥
(11:12:22 PM) ***amaranthineSwell disconnects from the server!
(11:12:49 PM) lunarLungfish: Well
(11:12:52 PM) lunarLungfish: Ockzel Tewbor
(11:13:07 PM) lunarLungfish: It was nice being in diamonds with you
(11:13:09 PM) lunarLungfish: while it lasted.
(11:13:27 PM) ***amaranthineSwell bounces back server message:  Error: user is not online!