[11:23:48] <Mons> I just have to figre out
[11:23:53] <Mons> how to do this without BACKPEDALING
[11:23:55] <Mons> And implying
[11:24:04] <Mons> that I'm going to HAVE to make a "change the future" plot.
[11:24:27] <castfromhp> By stating that?
[11:24:44] <Mons> But if I say that it'll seem like
[11:25:03] <Mons> uuugh i just want
[11:25:08] <Mons> to have it completely out of the picture
[11:25:13] <Mons> never actually thought about or acknowledged
[11:25:19] <Mons> unless i actually GET an idea for it
[11:25:32] <Mons> and i THOUGHT nobody would just talk about it anymore so
[11:25:35] <castfromhp> "Okay look, this doesn't mean you'll get something like a direct subplot to change the future of Turf, but I looked through the changes I made to other canons and think I can just say the future isn't going to be necessarily the Turf world or any other result of any other canon."
[11:26:00] <castfromhp> Something like that.
[11:26:03] : castfromhp shrug
[11:26:09] <Mons> well where's zoof then
[11:26:20] <castfromhp> It's Saturday morning! Who the fuck knows.
[11:26:26] <Mons> uuu
[11:27:18] <castfromhp> What makes you think zoof is going to demand some sort of CHANGE TURF SUBPLOT anyway?
[11:27:33] <Mons> I don't know. I wouldn't EXPECT it but
[11:27:34] <Mons> It's more
[11:27:41] <Mons> That saying it the way you wanted me to
[11:27:47] <Mons> seemed to imply that I then HAD to
[11:27:48] <castfromhp> I think he wants the same of you - to not acknowledge Turf as a thing relevant to Academy, but you keep dancing around it by refusing to outright say "okay that isn't necessarily the way things will go".
[11:28:14] <castfromhp> When all of your responses were along the lines of "it's okay Turf doesn't completely screw your character out of having a lasting effect on the world and its future"
[11:28:29] <Mons> But that was the argument that first occurred to me at the time
[11:28:31] <castfromhp> When what he wanted was "Academy will have its own timeline and future not beholden to the events of other canons"
[11:28:32] <Mons> i just
[11:28:38] <Mons> again i really didn't ever think this through and it shows
[11:28:52] <Mons> so i just went with what i immediately thought of
[11:29:23] <castfromhp> If you do an inevitable apocalypse prequel make damned well sure that everyone playing in it played the apocalypse game and that it's what they want and is clear from the outset.
[11:30:04] <Mons> but it isn't actually a...
[11:33:18] <castfromhp> I think you're missing the point. Which is that no one likes the future of the game they're playing in past its ending set in stone by other things like other games.
[11:33:56] <Mons> I'm not missing the point I just don't get why it's a big deal when it's like 80% likely to never actually be brought up, relevant, or IC poked at in any possible way
[11:34:16] <Mons> Which is what, in the end, I want. just... DON'T THINK ABOUT IT.
[11:34:27] <Mons> DOESN'T MATTER. WON'T BE TOUCHED ON UNLESS I GET AN IDEA.
[11:35:02] <castfromhp> Think about what this looks like for zoof though. If it's true it's so irrelevant, why are you SO adamant that you can't say "the future isn't set by other canons"? Well, there must be SOMETHING there, right?
[11:35:19] <castfromhp> Otherwise you'd just go "okay yeah fine the future isn't set by other canons".
[11:35:33] <Mons> Because it didn't actually occur to me to say that.
[11:35:48] <Mons> And when you brought it up to say
[11:35:58] <Mons> the WAY you phrased it made it seem like I had to have something in mind.
[11:36:08] <Mons> i'm stupid, you realize.
[11:38:20] <castfromhp> Well, do you have an idea of how you want to handle this now?
[11:38:39] <Mons> yes
[11:39:33] <castfromhp> That's good then.
[11:40:19] <castfromhp> I'm wondering if you shouldn't take it up with Damien too, to make sure he keeps Turf references from implying some coming apocalypse and keeps them to the characters from the game.
[11:41:18] <Mons> i guess. he's asleep now though
[11:41:29] <castfromhp> You know it's funny. If zoof hadn't started the banshee quest already I would've suggested to him to kill Jerry because if he's Turf president later he has a good chance of having fate or something.
[11:41:38] <Mons> pfffffbt
[11:42:47] <castfromhp> That seems like the kind of thing that'd work because monslogic. Am I wrong? :D
[11:43:03] <Mons> No, you're right, but it'd apply to any name NPC