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  1. Eladkay - Today at 9:19 AM
  2. Also lanse
  3. I have a question
  4. If curse is not evil why is rr not hosted there?
  5.  
  6. Simon (Lanse505) - Today at 9:19 AM
  7. Cause we don't want it hosted there?
  8.  
  9. Eladkay - Today at 9:19 AM
  10. Is ATL better?
  11.  
  12. Simon (Lanse505) - Today at 9:19 AM
  13. Cause we use ATL?
  14.  
  15. Eladkay - Today at 9:20 AM
  16. ATL doesn't reward its modders
  17.  
  18. Simon (Lanse505) - Today at 9:20 AM
  19. We don't have to post our pack on every launcher you know
  20.  
  21. Eladkay - Today at 9:20 AM
  22. Why not use the community standard then
  23. If it's not evil
  24.  
  25. Simon (Lanse505) - Today at 9:20 AM
  26. There is no community standard
  27.  
  28. K4Unl - Today at 9:20 AM
  29. you are comparing apples and pears
  30.  
  31. Eladkay - Today at 9:20 AM
  32. There is
  33.  
  34. Simon (Lanse505) - Today at 9:20 AM
  35. Curse is not a standard!
  36.  
  37. Eladkay - Today at 9:20 AM
  38. Most packs are on curse, it's basically a fact
  39.  
  40. K4Unl - Today at 9:21 AM
  41. takes out the popcorn
  42.  
  43. Simon (Lanse505) - Today at 9:21 AM
  44. That's cause has no barrier to entry on packs >->
  45.  
  46. Eladkay - Today at 9:21 AM
  47. Except for rr, what major packs are not in curse?
  48.  
  49. Simon (Lanse505) - Today at 9:21 AM
  50. So ANYONE can put their pack there
  51.  
  52. Eladkay - Today at 9:21 AM
  53. And that's a bad thing why?
  54.  
  55. K4Unl - Today at 9:21 AM
  56. he didn't say it was a bad thing?
  57.  
  58. Simon (Lanse505) - Today at 9:21 AM
  59. Exactly
  60. Never said it's a bad thing
  61.  
  62. Eladkay - Today at 9:21 AM
  63. Chew your popcorn and keep out of my drama
  64. Lanse if curse isn't the standard what major packs aren't there
  65.  
  66. K4Unl - Today at 9:22 AM
  67. starts to fold a tinfoil hat
  68. Well, you did just mention that RR isn't on there xD
  69.  
  70. Eladkay - Today at 9:22 AM
  71. Apart from RR. One pack being out of the standard doesn't make it not the standard
  72.  
  73. K4Unl - Today at 9:23 AM
  74. See, if i know Minecraft community, it's that there's subcommunities. One of those was FTB. You also had Tecnic and ATL
  75.  
  76. Eladkay - Today at 9:23 AM
  77. Technic is dead
  78.  
  79. K4Unl - Today at 9:23 AM
  80. Now FTB uses Curse to host their packs
  81.  
  82. Eladkay - Today at 9:23 AM
  83. Deal with it
  84.  
  85. K4Unl - Today at 9:23 AM
  86. Christ. Stop attacking for a second
  87.  
  88. Eladkay - Today at 9:24 AM
  89. ATL used to host packs like modsauce and skyfactory
  90.  
  91. K4Unl - Today at 9:24 AM
  92. I'm trying to have a normal conversation here
  93.  
  94. Eladkay - Today at 9:24 AM
  95. Now both opt for curse
  96.  
  97.  
  98.  
  99. Simon (Lanse505) - Today at 9:26 AM
  100. I just say that the reason for a majority of packs being there is cause there is not barrier to entry.
  101.  
  102.  
  103. RR
  104. Beyond Reality
  105. Beyond Reality: Divergent
  106. Pretty much any and all yogscast packs at this point
  107. CrundeeCraft
  108. Unabridged
  109. Pixelmon
  110. CrainerCraft
  111. DNS Techpack
  112. Madpacks
  113. Trollcraft (Not public yet)
  114. >->
  115.  
  116. Look there is no reason for you to attack other peoples choices.
  117. ATL is still a big launcher, maybe not curse big but it has a community around it.
  118. And if you disagree with people choosing to not use Curse than that's your opinion.
  119. However that doesn't mean anyone elses opinion or choices are invalid in comparison.
  120.  
  121. Fact of the matter is that choices are good.
  122. Having diversity in a community is what stops a community from stagnating.
  123.  
  124.  
  125.  
  126. Eladkay - Today at 9:27 AM
  127. CrainerCraft, CrundeeCraft are old
  128. Same for madpacks
  129.  
  130. Simon (Lanse505) - Today at 9:27 AM
  131. They are still big and active packs >.>
  132.  
  133. Eladkay - Today at 9:27 AM
  134. the rest... honestly I've never heard of most of them
  135. I'm not attacking the choices I'm attacking the incorrect facts
  136. No major recent pack is on non-curse except for RR
  137. Curse is definitely the standard
  138. Even for non-FTB packs
  139.  
  140. K4Unl - Today at 9:28 AM
  141. Well, considering this IS the drama channel
  142. I bet you voted Trump
  143.  
  144. Eladkay - Today at 9:28 AM
  145. Not American
  146.  
  147. K4Unl - Today at 9:29 AM
  148. You would've :stuck_out_tongue:
  149.  
  150. Eladkay - Today at 9:29 AM
  151. And I bet you had to open ATL to be reminded of some of these packs
  152.  
  153. Simon (Lanse505) - Today at 9:29 AM
  154. Nope
  155.  
  156. Eladkay - Today at 9:29 AM
  157. And honestly I would have because it benefits wherever I currently am
  158. "Nope" the ultimate argument nullifier(edited)
  159.  
  160. K4Unl - Today at 9:30 AM
  161. "And I bet you had to open ATL to be reminded of some of these packs"
  162. i think he replied to that
  163.  
  164. Simon (Lanse505) - Today at 9:30 AM
  165. I answered your question
  166.  
  167. Eladkay - Today at 9:30 AM
  168. Ok
  169.  
  170. Simon (Lanse505) - Today at 9:30 AM
  171. What are you on about >.>
  172.  
  173. K4Unl - Today at 9:30 AM
  174. He just wants to win the argument
  175. he doesn't care about his standpoints anymore
  176. he's like a pig, wrestling in the mud
  177.  
  178. Eladkay - Today at 9:31 AM
  179. I'm a pig
  180. My dad said that once
  181. When I was 8
  182.  
  183. K4Unl - Today at 9:31 AM
  184. I think everybodies dad says that once :joy:
  185.  
  186. Eladkay - Today at 9:31 AM
  187. Your point is wrong simply
  188. Curse is the standard and by not conforming to it RR is losing out on a massive amount of users who don't give enough of a shit to download a new launcher just for it
  189.  
  190. Simon (Lanse505) - Today at 9:32 AM
  191. Meh?
  192.  
  193. Darkhax - Today at 9:33 AM
  194. ATL is actually pretty dope.
  195.  
  196. Simon (Lanse505) - Today at 9:33 AM
  197. Users != Everything
  198.  
  199. Eladkay - Today at 9:33 AM
  200. What makes it lit fam?(edited)
  201.  
  202. Darkhax - Today at 9:33 AM
  203. The community mostly.
  204.  
  205. Eladkay - Today at 9:33 AM
  206. Users sort of is everything as a user base is what makes a pack major
  207.  
  208. Darkhax - Today at 9:33 AM
  209. Although, Curse is definetly the go to for making and releasing your packs.
  210. I am biased because the more curse modpacks, the more I get paid x)
  211.  
  212. Eladkay - Today at 9:34 AM
  213. That's an alright bias
  214. ATL does not motivate modders
  215.  
  216. K4Unl - Today at 9:34 AM
  217. I am quite alright with people using my mods in other modpacks than on curse
  218.  
  219. Eladkay - Today at 9:34 AM
  220. Modpack authors don't care because curse pays modders a lot more than modpack authors
  221.  
  222. Darkhax - Today at 9:35 AM
  223. That's not actually true.
  224. It depends.
  225.  
  226. Eladkay - Today at 9:35 AM
  227. But modders (at least those that I know) would usually rather you release packs on curse
  228.  
  229. K4Unl - Today at 9:35 AM
  230. I don't care :smile:
  231. i don't get any money anyway
  232.  
  233. Darkhax - Today at 9:35 AM
  234. What was the root of this discussion? x)
  235.  
  236. Eladkay - Today at 9:35 AM
  237. money
  238.  
  239. K4Unl - Today at 9:36 AM
  240. And some people who i know don't actually want the money
  241.  
  242. Eladkay - Today at 9:36 AM
  243. Tell these people they can send it to me
  244.  
  245. K4Unl - Today at 9:36 AM
  246. @Darkhax https://twitter.com/Slowpoke101/status/842500976527491072 this :stuck_out_tongue:
  247. Slowpoke101
  248. @voxcpw @Kleetho You realise we dont need to bother with Linux support any more right? @Vazkii has a perfectly good solution to the problem.
  249.  
  250. Darkhax - Today at 9:36 AM
  251. Oh
  252.  
  253. Simon (Lanse505) - Today at 9:36 AM
  254. Nah the root for this specific topic was;
  255. http://i.imgur.com/0o8xlNU.png
  256.  
  257. Darkhax - Today at 9:36 AM
  258. lmao
  259. That's a good question.
  260.  
  261. K4Unl - Today at 9:36 AM
  262. Well yes, and in between that we had the "FTB is not owned by Curse"
  263.  
  264. Simon (Lanse505) - Today at 9:37 AM
  265. And my answer is simple;
  266. Cause we don't want to?(edited)
  267.  
  268. K4Unl - Today at 9:37 AM
  269. Yes, but WHY don't you want it?
  270.  
  271. Darkhax - Today at 9:37 AM
  272. IIRC, RR actually has a fairly large linux community.
  273.  
  274. K4Unl - Today at 9:37 AM
  275. I bet you think because Curse is EVIL!
  276. - Eladkay
  277.  
  278. Simon (Lanse505) - Today at 9:37 AM
  279. Cause we like working with ATL?
  280. And like the platform :stuck_out_tongue:
  281.  
  282. Eladkay - Today at 9:38 AM
  283. Well that's a shitty reason
  284. I like iPhone
  285. And I like trump
  286. And I like killing babys
  287.  
  288. K4Unl - Today at 9:38 AM
  289. ^Sums everything up xD
  290.  
  291. Darkhax - Today at 9:38 AM
  292. lol
  293.  
  294. Simon (Lanse505) - Today at 9:38 AM
  295. So you're telling us we're not allowed to work on whatever platform we perfer?
  296.  
  297. K4Unl - Today at 9:38 AM
  298. Time to either lay off the bongs or the booze
  299.  
  300. Simon (Lanse505) - Today at 9:39 AM
  301. So basically no one is allowed to code mods in Scala, Kotlin or Lombok cause Java is the standard?
  302.  
  303. Eladkay - Today at 9:39 AM
  304. Heck no
  305. Kotlin is life
  306.  
  307. Simon (Lanse505) - Today at 9:39 AM
  308. That's the same argument though
  309.  
  310. K4Unl - Today at 9:39 AM
  311. But Java is standard
  312.  
  313. Eladkay - Today at 9:39 AM
  314. But kotlin actually has a userbase
  315.  
  316. K4Unl - Today at 9:39 AM
  317. I mean.. Java
  318.  
  319. Simon (Lanse505) - Today at 9:39 AM
  320. So does ATL
  321.  
  322. Eladkay - Today at 9:39 AM
  323. A lot of userbases
  324.  
  325. K4Unl - Today at 9:39 AM
  326. So does ATL xD
  327.  
  328. Eladkay - Today at 9:39 AM
  329. Not really
  330.  
  331. Simon (Lanse505) - Today at 9:39 AM
  332. Yes it does x'D
  333.  
  334. Eladkay - Today at 9:39 AM
  335. It's like kotlin would only be used by one user
  336.  
  337. K4Unl - Today at 9:39 AM
  338. Just because YOU're not a part of it
  339.  
  340. Eladkay - Today at 9:39 AM
  341. But it's not
  342.  
  343. K4Unl - Today at 9:39 AM
  344. doesn't mean it isn't there
  345.  
  346. Eladkay - Today at 9:40 AM
  347. But using kotlin has clear benefits
  348.  
  349. Simon (Lanse505) - Today at 9:41 AM
  350. Look
  351.  
  352. Darkhax - Today at 9:41 AM
  353. I see what Eladkay is saying, though. Not using Curse is a pretty bad business choice. For the modders and the RR team. If you guys don't want the profit generated by the RR packs, I am sure the modders would appreciate it. And it's also a potential outlet for you guys to donate to charity. At the same time, I don't think anyone who was informed would advocate for a forced centralized system lol.(edited)
  354.  
  355. K4Unl - Today at 9:43 AM
  356. Okay, let me just say this
  357. Curse is evil, FTB is evil, ATL is evil
  358. Minecraft is evil
  359. Also the community is toxic
  360.  
  361. Eladkay - Today at 9:44 AM
  362. Are you done chewing your popcorn
  363.  
  364. Darkhax - Today at 9:44 AM
  365. Minecraft is part of the satanic Illuminati confirmed?
  366.  
  367. Eladkay - Today at 9:44 AM
  368. Sataluminati!
  369.  
  370. Simon (Lanse505) - Today at 9:47 AM
  371. Look obviously we are at a standstill and I'm just gonna end my part of the conversation with.
  372. Yes I see your point and while it is valid. RR is going to stay on ATL cause that is what we as pack authors want for our pack.
  373. Obviously we aren't going to agree on this choice however that's what's so great about this community.
  374. Choice, the ability to freely choose platform, mods, communities, packs, etc.
  375. :stuck_out_tongue:
  376.  
  377. K4Unl - Today at 9:47 AM
  378. No, still chewing. I made a LOT of popcorn
  379.  
  380. Darkhax - Today at 9:48 AM
  381. makes change.org petition to get RR on Curse
  382.  
  383. K4Unl - Today at 9:48 AM
  384. You can just do a twitter poll
  385.  
  386. Darkhax - Today at 9:48 AM
  387. Lol
  388. But that is more serious than a change.org petition.
  389.  
  390. Eladkay - Today at 9:48 AM
  391. They don't give a shit about the community though
  392. Or modders
  393.  
  394. Simon (Lanse505) - Today at 9:49 AM
  395. ....
  396.  
  397. Eladkay - Today at 9:49 AM
  398. They only care about their arbitrary decisions
  399.  
  400. K4Unl - Today at 9:50 AM
  401. crunch crunch
  402.  
  403. Simon (Lanse505) - Today at 9:50 AM
  404. Yea cause we aren't on curse that obviously means we're part of the elitist community hating cabal out to destroy everyone's fun and bankrupt all of modding.
  405. All hail the terraria master race :V
  406.  
  407. K4Unl - Today at 9:50 AM
  408. Well fuck
  409. my sarcasm meter just overloaded
  410.  
  411. Darkhax - Today at 9:52 AM
  412. Sieg heil o/
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