#noinaneconversation

(11:38:14 PM) entropyEquivalent: That I'm obviously not the only one who had this idea is clear.
(11:38:14 PM) researchDevelopment: The admyns would be best.
(11:38:35 PM) researchDevelopment: One of them ys... specyfycNyhylysm Y thynk?
(11:38:42 PM) entropyEquivalent: I heard of a certain... enturbulatedOccupation, was the name? But I also read that she's deceased. Would the others be better to -
(11:38:53 PM) entropyEquivalent: Hold on, is your keyboard missing a key?
(11:38:57 PM) overwroughtStenographer: there are a 13unch
(11:39:02 PM) entropyEquivalent: ...and yours?
(11:39:05 PM) Zuki: (( can I see what I missed? ))
(11:39:09 PM) ignitedExterminator: What? No,  they're trolls
(11:39:14 PM) entropyEquivalent: They're what?
(11:39:15 PM) overwroughtStenographer: ventricularPipefitter, maybe tungstenTinkerer
(11:39:17 PM) ignitedExterminator: It's their typing quirks
(11:39:20 PM) ignitedExterminator: Trolls
(11:39:23 PM) entropyEquivalent: ...
(11:39:23 PM) researchDevelopment: ((Gimme a sec))
(11:39:24 PM) ignitedExterminator: An alien species
(11:39:27 PM) overwroughtStenographer: no
(11:39:29 PM) entropyEquivalent: You let /trolls/ camp this server.
(11:39:30 PM) ignitedExterminator: Hold on I have a document on them
(11:39:30 PM) entropyEquivalent: Nice.
(11:39:43 PM) ***ignitedExterminator sent entropyEquivalent folder "Trolls"
(11:39:49 PM) ignitedExterminator: Not that type of troll, calm down
(11:40:00 PM) ***entropyEquivalent has accepted folder "Trolls"
(11:40:02 PM) researchDevelopment: (( http://pastebin.com/8X4RvaEb ))
(11:40:20 PM) You are now known as ontologyExpunged
(11:40:33 PM) researchDevelopment: What ys your kynd of troll?
(11:40:38 PM) entropyEquivalent: ...right. I'm skimming this.
(11:40:40 PM) amaranthineSwell [[email protected]] entered the room.
(11:40:45 PM) overwroughtStenographer: yeah what other kind is there
(11:40:50 PM) overwroughtStenographer: like the 13eforan kind maybe
(11:41:00 PM) You are now known as ventricularPipefitter
(11:41:05 PM) ***ventricularPipefitter has connected to the memo
(11:41:06 PM) ignitedExterminator: The kind that basically translates to "An asshole on the internet who's an asshole for the sake of being an asshole"
(11:41:08 PM) entropyEquivalent: Well. Troll as in "person who deliberately tries to get a rise in people by being verbally abusive", is the gist of it.
(11:41:11 PM) ventricularPipefitter: Was I pinged?
(11:41:14 PM) entropyEquivalent: Speak of the devil.
(11:41:17 PM) overwroughtStenographer: oops yeah
(11:41:30 PM) overwroughtStenographer: EE here wanted to talk to you about what I have no idea
(11:41:40 PM) ventricularPipefitter: I'd like to think I'm better regarded than a /devil/, at least.
(11:41:44 PM) entropyEquivalent: You're one of the administrators here, yes?
(11:41:48 PM) researchDevelopment: Thys ys an admyn.
(11:41:50 PM) ventricularPipefitter: Mm-hm.
(11:41:51 PM) researchDevelopment: Talk.
(11:41:58 PM) amaranthineSwell is now known as spenihSprite
(11:42:01 PM) ventricularPipefitter: One of the Founding Six.
(11:42:12 PM) entropyEquivalent: ...Yes, so someone else /did/ have the same idea as I did.
(11:42:16 PM) entropyEquivalent: Cross-section connectivity.
(11:42:25 PM) entropyEquivalent: Though I'd /hope/ it would be more curated than... this.
(11:42:52 PM) entropyEquivalent: Apparently someone in the other memo had soup poured onto their testicles.
(11:42:52 PM) overwroughtStenographer: hey if it doesn't meet your excruciatingly high standards you're welcome to try pits
(11:43:12 PM) ventricularPipefitter: It's a public IRC network and a forum. If you're looking for more curated content....
(11:43:13 PM) overwroughtStenographer: they go fucking crazy over people who aren't trolls there you'll love it
(11:43:17 PM) ventricularPipefitter: wait what about soup
(11:43:21 PM) ventricularPipefitter: ...oh. Iggy and Mal.
(11:43:23 PM) ignitedExterminator: Ah
(11:43:23 PM) ignitedExterminator: Yeah
(11:43:35 PM) ignitedExterminator: Whoa hold on I didn't do jack shit
(11:43:41 PM) ***spenihSprite connects to the side-memo!
(11:43:41 PM) ignitedExterminator: Blame Sal, she's the crazy one
(11:43:42 PM) ventricularPipefitter: I don't know /why/ you guys don't use, say, pesterchum or a private IM system for that.
(11:43:48 PM) entropyEquivalent: ...I heard about your "timetrav encryption"?
(11:43:48 PM) ignitedExterminator: Eh
(11:43:55 PM) ventricularPipefitter: Let's keep this *on* *topic*
(11:43:56 PM) entropyEquivalent: I would like to know more about that.
(11:43:57 PM) researchDevelopment: Hello.
(11:43:59 PM) spenihSprite: she was pinged?
(11:44:05 PM) overwroughtStenographer: on what topic
(11:44:15 PM) ventricularPipefitter: Spenih! We have a newbie, and they're asking us technical questions!
(11:44:16 PM) entropyEquivalent: I was not pinged.
(11:44:32 PM) spenihSprite: oh
(11:44:35 PM) entropyEquivalent: Why are you asking about me?
(11:44:44 PM) spenihSprite: she can answer some stuff possibly
(11:44:56 PM) spenihSprite: she's not the most technical but she knows enough?
(11:45:02 PM) ventricularPipefitter: No, of course you weren't. Not unless you want to set up alerts. Anyways, encryption. What do you know about the formless chaos of space and time beyond the Furthest Ring?
(11:45:20 PM) entropyEquivalent: I already read most of the "read this first" block on the forum.
(11:45:33 PM) entropyEquivalent: ...Which brings me to my main question.
(11:45:33 PM) ventricularPipefitter: You, then, are one of a rare and elite few.
(11:45:46 PM) entropyEquivalent: How the /hell/ did you camp a null session?
(11:45:53 PM) entropyEquivalent: That isn't supposed to be possible.
(11:45:55 PM) spenihSprite: carefully
(11:45:57 PM) ventricularPipefitter: It isn't!
(11:46:06 PM) researchDevelopment: "Camp a null sessyon?"
(11:46:44 PM) ventricularPipefitter: Suffice it to say, there are several good reasons why we don't give the technical and esoteric details out.
(11:46:54 PM) entropyEquivalent: So, like security through obscurity?
(11:47:03 PM) ventricularPipefitter: Sure, that's *some* of it.
(11:47:10 PM) entropyEquivalent: ...It occurs to me that I should introduce myself.
(11:47:42 PM) researchDevelopment: Yes.
(11:47:55 PM) entropyEquivalent: Susan Bones, who used to be a Dame of Doom and an Heir of Space and is now a Knight of Mind?
(11:48:07 PM) ventricularPipefitter: Ah, third session. How're you holding up?
(11:48:23 PM) spenihSprite: it's nice to meet you
(11:48:44 PM) spenihSprite: welcome to the [ bur ].org unofficial fansite irc chat
(11:48:50 PM) entropyEquivalent: I'm as well as one can be in this presumably eternal and ridiculous charade, yes.
(11:48:52 PM) ventricularPipefitter: Heh. 'fansite.'
(11:49:02 PM) ventricularPipefitter: Mmm. Glad to hear it.
(11:49:05 PM) entropyEquivalent: Are the brackets supposed to do something?
(11:49:17 PM) entropyEquivalent: Is it another typing quirk?
(11:49:25 PM) ventricularPipefitter: Yes, as it were. But Spenih's human.
(11:49:27 PM) spenihSprite: it helps with the [    ] problems
(11:49:33 PM) entropyEquivalent: The what?
(11:49:39 PM) spenihSprite: [    ]
(11:49:42 PM) spenihSprite: [
(11:49:44 PM) ventricularPipefitter: V id
(11:49:45 PM) spenihSprite:      ]
(11:49:47 PM) ventricularPipefitter: oh bugger.
(11:49:49 PM) spenihSprite: sigh
(11:49:54 PM) ventricularPipefitter: That-one-aspect.
(11:50:03 PM) entropyEquivalent: ...Right. The one that literally erases information about itself.
(11:50:03 PM) ventricularPipefitter: You may not have encountered it yet. Don't worry.
(11:50:06 PM) spenihSprite: th t h d s it elf
(11:50:08 PM) spenihSprite: yes
(11:50:10 PM) entropyEquivalent: I have heard about it.
(11:50:15 PM) ventricularPipefitter: Good onya.
(11:50:32 PM) spenihSprite: she's a native [gr c  o      ] and an administrator here
(11:50:45 PM) entropyEquivalent: Syl says she heard about it from a guy she saw that had twenty-seven sessions. Didn't know people could survive that long.
(11:50:46 PM) spenihSprite: she hopes you enjoy your time here
(11:50:56 PM) entropyEquivalent: Wait, a Greco-Roman what?
(11:50:57 PM) ventricularPipefitter: Ross Eberhardt, native Smith of Heart, currently in the pre-game of my twenty-seventh, yes.
(11:51:04 PM) ventricularPipefitter: Founder and Administrator.
(11:51:10 PM) spenihSprite: venpip help?
(11:51:17 PM) entropyEquivalent: ...Twenty-seve - are you /serious/?
(11:51:26 PM) ventricularPipefitter: I shit you not.
(11:51:31 PM) entropyEquivalent: That seems like too pat a coincidence.
(11:51:38 PM) entropyEquivalent: My pants remain unshat-upon, I assure you.
(11:51:44 PM) ***ventricularPipefitter laughs!
(11:51:46 PM) horribleCuddles left the room (quit: Quit: http://www.mibbit.com ajax IRC Client).
(11:52:15 PM) ventricularPipefitter: Well, there are a -few- of us. Not many, but enough. Spen here has a few more than me, and Vitt a few more than her.
(11:52:23 PM) spenihSprite: not grecoroman
(11:52:32 PM) spenihSprite: [ r c   f     ]
(11:52:35 PM) spenihSprite: s gh
(11:52:39 PM) ventricularPipefitter: Grace of Void.
(11:52:41 PM) entropyEquivalent: ...Oh! You talk about yourself in the third person!
(11:52:42 PM) ventricularPipefitter: There. THere we go.
(11:52:43 PM) spenihSprite: thank you
(11:52:46 PM) ventricularPipefitter: ...Yes.
(11:52:47 PM) spenihSprite: yes
(11:52:48 PM) ventricularPipefitter: Yes, she does.
(11:52:49 PM) entropyEquivalent: ...what's a Grace?
(11:52:51 PM) spenihSprite: she does
(11:53:15 PM) spenihSprite: it's a [ca a lysm cl s ]
(11:53:21 PM) spenihSprite: we cause change
(11:53:27 PM) spenihSprite: drastically
(11:53:32 PM) ventricularPipefitter: Explosively.
(11:53:33 PM) entropyEquivalent: I haven't had time to crack open the Comprehensive Guides, shame-on-me/RTFM/etc. so...
(11:53:41 PM) entropyEquivalent: Cataclysm, I'd like to fill in?
(11:53:48 PM) spenihSprite: yes
(11:54:27 PM) ignitedExterminator is now known as tenaciousTheseus
(11:54:38 PM) entropyEquivalent: ...See, I was just telling Syl about how I'd heard this urban legend about a Waste of Mind a while ago and we laughed, but...
(11:54:43 PM) ventricularPipefitter: Those with a particular karma towards taking the --- Myra.
(11:54:54 PM) ventricularPipefitter: Yes, we know her.
(11:54:58 PM) spenihSprite: :<
(11:55:14 PM) entropyEquivalent: ...Is that the same enturbulatedOccupation on the announcement notes?
(11:55:19 PM) ventricularPipefitter: Mm-hm.
(11:55:25 PM) ventricularPipefitter: The one and only.
(11:55:30 PM) entropyEquivalent: Excuse my language. Holy fucking shit.
(11:55:38 PM) ***spenihSprite is away!
(11:56:06 PM) ventricularPipefitter: She had a way of inspiring that reaction in people, yes.
(11:56:24 PM) entropyEquivalent: She /did/ all that?
(11:56:47 PM) entropyEquivalent: She's not just your equivalent of an Alan Smithee?
(11:56:49 PM) ventricularPipefitter: You're going to have to be more specific.
(11:56:57 PM) ventricularPipefitter: I'm not abreast on the current urban legends.
(11:58:20 PM) ventricularPipefitter: But Spenih and I played the session together with her that we journeyed the Ring, built the server architecture, and Founded Sburb.org in, yes.
(11:58:30 PM) entropyEquivalent: See, no, I heard about her being in a session with someone who knew someone who played with me, and you -
(11:58:49 PM) ventricularPipefitter: ...did you play with someone who played with Stan?
(11:58:50 PM) entropyEquivalent: Okay, I'm about prepared to accept that you guys are actually some very smart Horrorterrors at this point. This is all /plausible/.
(11:59:11 PM) entropyEquivalent: Syl knew a Stan, yes.
(11:59:24 PM) ***spenihSprite is back!
(11:59:25 PM) ventricularPipefitter: Mm. How's Syl doing, do you think?
(11:59:37 PM) entropyEquivalent: She rolled Light this session.
(1/8/2013 12:00:54 AM) entropyEquivalent: Given what I've heard from her, it's been very helpful.
(12:01:09 AM) ventricularPipefitter: Stan's death hit a /lot/ of us hard, and I barely knew him.
(12:01:32 AM) The account has disconnected and you are no longer in this chat. You will be automatically rejoined in the chat when the account reconnects.
(12:02:15 AM) Zuki: He shared Myra's native session, and we had her tenth.
(12:03:00 AM) You are now known as venPip
(12:03:12 AM) ***venPip PMs "Skye" ( How're you holding up? )
(12:03:54 AM) ***spenihSprite PMs "ross": (do you need her?)
(12:04:10 AM) entropyEquivalent left the room (quit: Ping timeout).
(12:04:19 AM) ventricularPipefitter left the room (quit: Ping timeout).
(12:09:54 AM) ***venPip PMs "Skye" ( I....not exactly? Just, you know, checking in. )
(12:09:59 AM) You are now known as ventricularPipefitter
(12:10:12 AM) ***spenihSprite PMs "ross": (she thinks she's going to go for a while then)
(12:10:22 AM) ***spenihSprite PMs "ross": (she loves you)
(12:10:27 AM) ***spenihSprite PMs "ross": (take care)
(12:10:41 AM) ***spenihSprite PMs "ross": ([        ] ward you)
(12:14:00 AM) ***ventricularPipefitter PMs "Skye" ( Love you too. Stay alive. We have to meet again. )
(12:14:53 AM) ***spenihSprite PMs "ross": (she's trying)
(12:15:05 AM) ***spenihSprite disconnects from the server!

(2:33:35 PM) entropyEquivalent: We all lose everything we love, in the end. The question becomes what you care about enough to preserve the memory of.
(2:35:26 PM) ventricularPipefitter: Damn, you're a /hell/ of a skullkid to say something like that.
(2:35:31 PM) entropyEquivalent: A what?
(2:35:52 PM) ventricularPipefitter: Nickname for a native-or-current, but usually native, Hero of Doom.
(2:36:00 PM) ventricularPipefitter: For the ideograil, get it?
(2:36:12 PM) entropyEquivalent: That makes sense.
(2:36:15 PM) ventricularPipefitter: Or for Skully, maybe. Unsure.
(2:36:57 PM) ventricularPipefitter: That's cessationInvestigator, a nat. Seer of Doom who's a regular around here and somehow older than me, if only because she Entered later. I'll introduce you.
(2:37:15 PM) ventricularPipefitter: ...I think she has another name. I'm not sure what it is.
(2:37:54 PM) entropyEquivalent: Well. I decided I would learn something from playing the game, and I did, so...
(2:38:43 PM) ventricularPipefitter: Mm. Keep doing that. It'll keep you alive.
(2:39:04 PM) entropyEquivalent: Is it... not common around here? Is that why people get to twentysomething sessions, they aren't paying attention?
(2:40:01 PM) ventricularPipefitter: No, people get to twentysomething sessions because they're good enough at what they're doing to have not died yet.
(2:40:21 PM) entropyEquivalent: ...So there is no win condition, then, like I was told.
(2:40:30 PM) entropyEquivalent: I suppose I'm fine with that.
(2:40:42 PM) ventricularPipefitter: It's the life we live, Bones.
(2:41:12 PM) ventricularPipefitter: If there's some pinnacle of enlightenment that's achieved to let you out, I don't know anyone that's found it, and the boddhisatva of Rage, is also a real person and not an Alan Smithee, so.
(2:41:51 PM) entropyEquivalent: The... hold on. That lady with the stupidly large book, is the one you're talking about, right?
(2:42:42 PM) entropyEquivalent: Or I suppose she said she was a gentleman.
(2:42:49 PM) ventricularPipefitter: Ah! Yes, that's her!
(2:43:12 PM) entropyEquivalent: You know about gentlemanMannerism?
(2:43:29 PM) ventricularPipefitter: She is the *other* local legend, yes.
(2:43:40 PM) ventricularPipefitter: And the one larger, on the balance.
(2:44:32 PM) majesticInstability [[email protected]] entered the room.
(2:45:03 PM) ventricularPipefitter: That's...you might get pressed for details. Quite a bit. By myself included.
(2:45:55 PM) The_Black_Watch [[email protected]] entered the room.
(2:46:26 PM) axiomTurnabout [[email protected]] entered the room.
(2:47:06 PM) entropyEquivalent: She... she said she preferred if I didn't talk about her too much.
(2:47:19 PM) entropyEquivalent: She is very forceful.
(2:48:25 PM) ventricularPipefitter: She is.
(2:48:46 PM) ventricularPipefitter: Also, at least twice as old as I am.
(2:48:56 PM) entropyEquivalent: ...she didn't mention that part.
(2:49:01 PM) ventricularPipefitter: She wouldn't have!
(2:53:12 PM) ventricularPipefitter: So. You've played with some auspicious company, you had the bright idea to throw something out into the ring so you could keep in touch, found the vast floating trash raft of messages-in-bottled, and you found your way here.
(2:53:23 PM) ventricularPipefitter: Congratulations, Susan Bones. What do you want to do next?
(2:53:33 PM) entropyEquivalent: That's a good question.
(2:55:13 PM) entropyEquivalent: Probably read, for a while. Get to know how this place works.
(2:55:35 PM) ventricularPipefitter: There's a sub-culture of folks who code and hack and build, and launch new Ring servers and maintain old ones. Put some of your own messages in bottles, help us reach new people.
(2:55:48 PM) entropyEquivalent: I like that.
(2:56:35 PM) ventricularPipefitter: Pits needs that sort of person, too. But if you're the sort of person to stick your head in a wiki and not come up for air until a year later, I'd go light on the PrototypeTowers for now.
(2:57:11 PM) ventricularPipefitter: But if you're looking for the open sourced or federated standards for trav encryption, there you'd look.
(3:01:58 PM) entropyEquivalent: Good to know.
(3:02:21 PM) entropyEquivalent: I will be leaving for now, and probably come back when I have further questions that can't be answered by the literature.
(3:02:47 PM) ventricularPipefitter: The forums, you'll find, are a bit of a different beast than the IRC
(3:02:56 PM) ventricularPipefitter: Also.
(3:03:02 PM) entropyEquivalent: Yes?
(3:03:16 PM) ventricularPipefitter: Make a point to pick up the polite basics of alien culture. Especially troll/Alternian.
(3:05:04 PM) ventricularPipefitter: It's...they're a damnably frustrating bunch of troublemakers, at times. And quirks can be hard to read ( get a parser add-on, if you like ), but.
(3:05:08 PM) ventricularPipefitter: They're still *people*
(3:05:23 PM) entropyEquivalent: That's something /she/ was concerned about, too.
(3:05:41 PM) ventricularPipefitter: Yeah?
(3:06:33 PM) entropyEquivalent: She was saying something about nonhuman species and how you were supposed to treat them if they had different... value structures? Preferences? Utility functions? I forget what's the more correct term for that.
(3:06:52 PM) ventricularPipefitter: Yyyyy...hm.
(3:07:00 PM) ventricularPipefitter: Yes, but not quite?
(3:07:15 PM) entropyEquivalent: But she posed the question as a theoretical.
(3:07:18 PM) ventricularPipefitter: Food, sex, friendship, and romance are pretty universally important.
(3:07:28 PM) entropyEquivalent: Apparently it wasn't as theoretical as I thought it was.
(3:08:41 PM) ventricularPipefitter: As someone in a nonsexual romantic relationship based on antagonism, rivalry, and mediation with two other trolls...no, it probably wasn't very theoretical.
(3:08:49 PM) entropyEquivalent: A /what/
(3:09:08 PM) ventricularPipefitter: An auspistice.
(3:09:26 PM) entropyEquivalent: Look, I don't mind xenophilia, but are you /bragging/?
(3:09:34 PM) ventricularPipefitter: Just....go find the documentation on troll romance and read /that/ in, ---what no.
(3:10:09 PM) ventricularPipefitter: I was making a point that things get /weird/ around here. You might want to learn how weird works.
(3:10:18 PM) entropyEquivalent: As if I don't already.
(3:10:29 PM) ventricularPipefitter: Mm.
(3:10:53 PM) ventricularPipefitter: Also, *not* a xenophile.
(3:11:30 PM) entropyEquivalent: I'm sure there's a scandal to be uncovered there if we look closely enough.
(3:12:17 PM) Whilim [[email protected]] entered the room.
(3:12:18 PM) ophcun|offline [[email protected]] entered the room.
(3:12:23 PM) ventricularPipefitter: No no no the scandalous part is when my girlfriend dragged me kicking and screaming into--why am I telling you this.
(3:12:59 PM) entropyEquivalent: I'm not really one for blackmail. Does the rest of Sburb.org know about this already?
(3:13:38 PM) ventricularPipefitter: ...yes.
(3:13:44 PM) ventricularPipefitter: To my chagrin.
(3:13:51 PM) entropyEquivalent: The kinky part, or what?
(3:14:21 PM) ventricularPipefitter: Sburb.org is two thousand bored shippers and foodporn photographers.
(3:14:40 PM) entropyEquivalent: Then would I, indeed, be better placed at PrototypeTowers?