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  1. GFOTY INTERVIEW !
  2.  
  3.  
  4. Polly (GFOTY): Let's go go go! 
  5.  
  6. Martin : So hello Polly, nice to have you here, in the Supersonic and in France. 
  7.  
  8. Polly: Yes! Oui! Ah oui! France c'est mon... city... country le favorite! That was good right?
  9.  
  10. Martin : Of course it was! We talked about it a bit before but for the fans I'll ask again: is this your first solo tour? 
  11.  
  12. Polly: This is my first solo tour yeah, long time coming, should've been done a long time ago. It's my first proper one. I'm the headline and I'm really happy to be doing it and... I never properly played in most cities. Paris yeah, but I've never been to Spain... well never been to Spain basically but yeah I'm super excited! 
  13.  
  14. Martin: So this is the first time being the headline, that means this time all the people coming to the show are coming to see you. Unlike when you were a support act. You were telling us earlier about your tour with Animal Collective which was... funny I guess? 
  15.  
  16. Polly: Funny dates yeah! Me and Animal Collective as I said are very very different people, and acts. I always thought that they booked me to troll their fans, to be like "fuck you guys"! I don't know; I guess they liked me but they must've been doing it like « we're gonna put someone that you're gonna hate on, so then when we come on you're gonna think we're amazing. » Cause that tour wasn't that great so I guess they needed something bad in their opinion to make that set better. 
  17.  
  18. Michaël: But did you ever get to know them in the end? 
  19.  
  20. Polly: We hung out a few times but they were super touring, with the bus and all that. I think if you're a proper touring artist you don't even have time. Whereas me, doing a few shows, I'm so excited like « I'm here it's so fun I wanna get drunk » but they probably found me... très très ennuyeux. 
  21.  
  22. Martin: So with this being the first day I guess you're in top shape! Not tired yet. 
  23.  
  24. Polly: No that's wrong because... Parce que... I had to wake up at 4 A.M. So I'm not tired, but I'm tired. But I'm ready so hopefully I do you proud! 
  25.  
  26. Martin: So you went independant - I don't know if it was at the beginning of last year or at the end of 2018...
  27.  
  28. Polly: Roughly... I ended things at PC Music in september 2018 but it was announced a year ago. 
  29.  
  30. Martin: So what motivated that step to go independant? 
  31.  
  32. Polly: I just wanted to feel more free. That's it! I don't wanna say anything bad against anyone but I just have the chance to do whatever I want whenever I want now. Beforehand I barely released music. So I was a musician who didn't release! And now since the year's been gone I think I released an EP, an album and like 5 different singles or something like that? The point of being an artist to me is doing whatever you want whenever you want and not being tied down to shit. 
  33.  
  34. Martin: So it really was a logical step. 
  35.  
  36. Polly: It was for my happiness. The only benefit, to me, of being on a label, is that they pay for everything. You have to pay it back but they have the money in the first place, whereas being independant means you need the money to do shit. 
  37.  
  38. Michaël: At least you get to chose the release dates and everything. 
  39.  
  40. Polly: Exactly! Which is fantastic. 
  41.  
  42. Michaël: It makes it more spontaneous.
  43.  
  44. Polly: Yeah and I like that, cause I'm really bad at plans. 
  45.  
  46. Martin: I guess the next question was going to be « how is being independant treating you? », but obviously the answer is really well! 
  47.  
  48. Polly: Fan-tas-tic! I love it, it's really good. As I said, the only bad stuff is you have to get the money to put stuff out. But other than that I'm happy, and I'm so much more busy now. I didn't realise how busy I'd be since going independant, it's crazy. 
  49.  
  50. Martin: What did actually change? Like did you have the opportunity to work with people you wouldn't have worked with while being at PC?
  51.  
  52. Polly: It wasn't even that, it was more like I felt - and this isn't against PC Music - as me, Polly, as a person, that I need to know that I don't need to go to someone and say « I wanna do this with someone ». Maybe I didn't need to do that then but I just felt it. 
  53.  
  54. Michaël: Not having to ask for permission.
  55.  
  56. Polly: Yeah, I just can do it whenever. And if I wanna put something out tomorrow I could. And that's actually the reason I'm doing it. I think it's important for the fans as well, cause in hindsight I actually think people don't wanna wait for months and months or years... As long as you're putting out content and making yourself and people around you happy that's what really matters. 
  57.  
  58. Martin: So speaking about - I was going to say your last release but the last is actually « Ex-mas in the Woods », so rather about GFOTV, what prompted the apparent change of style? 
  59.  
  60. Polly: If I tell you the real story, everyone will hate me and think I'm a massive massive bitch. So I can't tell you the real story, however... 
  61.  
  62. Michaël: Tell a fake one! 
  63.  
  64. Polly: I can invent a story, but the really story I'm... yeah we're not gonna go there. You can include that! I just thought... « You know what fuck it. All people want is a release. So I'm gonna give them the release and hype up a release » and... When I did it, I did it as a funny joke, I was like I can do this and I can do it in a month.
  65.  
  66. Martin: Yeah it was a short project in the making! 
  67.  
  68. Polly: That's it, I said « I'm doing this, videos for every song... » well I didn't do videos for every one in the end but I did seven videos. Obviously I just basically wanted to hype up something and I made it really exciting. I didn't even underdeliver. I think I just delivered a weird... thing. The day before it came out I was so scared, I was like « what have I done?! I'm not gonna have any fans now, this is horrible, I just trolled everyone awfully! » Some people were like "this is shit", but then the people who got it and obviously knew it was a troll, that's what I really cared about. But THEN Antony Fantano wrote about it and I was like YES!! That was all I could've asked for: a music critic writing about how it's the worst thing he's ever heard, however it's the future of music! Then Iggy Pop played it on his radio show! It went so well! Saying that, I would never ever play any of those songs live and I think I've listened to the album twice in my life. 
  69.  
  70. Martin: It feels like a very « studio » project, it would maybe feel weird to play this live? 
  71.  
  72. Polly: I'm planning - this is planned - to do a one-off event in London where I'm doing it all live and everything, it will happen but it's definitely something that I would never do a live show of, because it's not [not audible] which I think is beautiful, some of it is beautiful... « Under the Sea »! 
  73.  
  74. Michaël: We think the same way! 
  75.  
  76. Martin: Yeah we both loved it actually! 
  77.  
  78. Polly: Merci beaucoup! It's good! I mean, I enjoyed making it so much, it's great... Saying that, I wouldn't feel confortable performing it, tonight! 
  79.  
  80. Martin: That whole story is funny because, being on the internet, we saw the reception for GFOTV being very polarizing - some loving it and others saying it's shit - and we were wondering whether you were anticipating that reaction from the public. 
  81.  
  82. Polly: I didn't think anyone would like it. I thought... I don't know what I thought! But in my head I didn't think about other people. I thought « I'm gonna do this, it's gonna be funny » in my head. 
  83.  
  84. Martin: That's always the best way to do things. 
  85.  
  86. Polly: Maybe. As I said I'l never gonna tell the real reason, you can speculate about that, but I didn't thought of much else, and the day before I was like « I made the biggest mistake of my life, I'm ruined! Everything is ruined »! But I gave the bandcamp proceeds to charity, so it does mean something to me, but in a different way than « it is my music ».
  87.  
  88. Martin: When did you decide to talk about cartoons and TV shows? Unless it's part of that story you don't wanna tell! 
  89.  
  90. Polly: TV shows are my life! Watching TV is the biggest part of my life. When I listen to theme tunes I come up with one in my head. For example the first one « American Family », every time I'm watching the Simpsons or walking down the street I sing like « Meet Homer & Marge they are husband and wife!... »  I just sing it, and I always have, so it kinda came together. TV is the biggest part of my life, which is pathetic cause, I don't know, for most people it's respectable to not own a TV... 
  91.  
  92. Michaël: Especially nowadays. 
  93.  
  94. Polly: Some people are like « I don't watch TV » and I'm like who the fuck are you?! All I do, my life is watching TV. All I wanna do when I'm on my own is watching it. 
  95.  
  96. Michaël: It used to be everyone's life, like ten years ago I'd say when I was a kid, and then the Internet arrived as this much bigger thing, and now as you said it's cool not to watch TV. It's real. 
  97.  
  98. Polly: It it was up to me I'd have a TV in every room in my house. It's bad, maybe, but... I hate the Internet I think. On my phone, all my text messages, my twitter, my Instagram, Facebook... I turned off all notifications, so I only look when I have to cause I don't enjoy it. I actually really hate it. But at the same time it makes me feel really stupid, because then you hang out with all your friends and they're like « have you seen this? » and I'm like « no I just watched Friends again, for the hundredth time », it's not really my thing. 
  99.  
  100. Martin: It's funny because like, I don't follow you everywhere, I don't have Twitter for example because I'm afraid it's gonna suck too much time in my life - I just recently got Instagram, 5 days ago maybe, and I can see you're quite active there, but at the same time you hate it! 
  101.  
  102. Polly: I got a lot of friends in my life who doesn't have Instagram cause it makes them so depressed, and I can understand that in a way but to me, it doesn't even cross my mind to scroll down Instagram and look at what people are doing. I go there when I need to post something and I hate doing it. When I'm out like today in Paris I just wanna have fun, the last thing that cross my mind is « oh I wanna post this on the Gram », but I know I have to, so I'll do it... I think if you see social medias as literally that and nothing else then it's easy. But I think once again it's because I'm not a été big Internet person. 
  103.  
  104. Martin: So you're quite detached. 
  105.  
  106. Polly: I'm detached. My dream is to have my phone off, and the only reason I have my phone on is because I have to do it for this, but I've got no interest for other people's lives I guess. Maybe that's bad? That's depressing!
  107.  
  108. Martin: If I could chose - well actually I could -  if I had the mental strength to do it, then I would not be on my phone all the time. 
  109.  
  110. Polly: I hate it! 
  111.  
  112. Martin: *throwing my phone away - gently though* go there! 
  113.  
  114. Polly: Fuck you! 
  115.  
  116. Martin: Yeah fuck you phone! 
  117.  
  118. Polly: La merde! Really bad french... 
  119.  
  120. Michaël: Also I don't think people would really resent you for being on these networks, I've never had a friend tell me « Oh why aren't you on Facebook » or whatever. They don't even care themselves. 
  121.  
  122. Polly: Yeah, I've been to music conferences before - I've got friends who work there - and the advice people high up in the industry give to people is « go online all the time whenever you can »... And I don't think that's true! I mean maybe when you're starting off it's good to show your personality but I really don't think it's good to be online and do that. 
  123.  
  124. Michaël: It feels like everyone big isn't on there anyway, people like Frank Ocean, desiigner, they just keep it mysterious and that works. 
  125.  
  126. Polly: That works! Yeah, it does work, but then they're very lucky when that works. 
  127.  
  128. Martin: Since we're French and not able to go to London as often as we'd like, you seem to be doing peculiar events - like the Lore of GFOTY - so we're curious... 
  129.  
  130. Michaël: What's up with that? 
  131.  
  132. Polly: I think of myself as 5% a musician and 95% a brand - I don't wanna call myself an artist cause that's really sickening to me, but like an entity free to do whatever I feel like doing - and tha'ts another reason why I like to be independant: I have ideas, and if I have an idea I wanna go out and do it, everyone should be able to. Even if it attracts two people. My « Lore of GFOTY » was like... I just knew that I could start a cult, I guess. I watched a lot of Netflix documentaries and was like « I could do this and I'm gonna », and made it happen. I'm gonna do way more of them because it was the most magical weekend ever. It was kinda like « Wild Wild Country », did you see that on Netflix (we didn't)? It was about Osho, he was a spiritual leader banished from India who moved in a small land in America and started this giant cult, like a crazy freedom cult who gathered bad attention from the media as being a « sex cult », there was a huge clash... and I was like I could do this, and I did! And you can do it, you can do all of it, make a cult! 
  133.  
  134. Michaël: You kinda have to be known first I guess... 
  135.  
  136. Polly: No you don't, don't worry! I went all out when I did my cult, and I did a lot of advertising for it, all of that. And no one came. Which made me really sad! Cause I will always say that my musical career to me is 5% - even though to everyone else it's 100% - and well people did come, but not a lot. And to me that's so much more important, that artistic side of shit you could do, than me singing a song [in/about?] microphone. But people don't give a shit. That made me sad about humanity, but anyway enough of that! 
  137.  
  138. Michaël: It's interesting to me, because I feel like the lack of people at the actual event could be do to the fact that-
  139.  
  140. Polly: I'm not doing a live show. 
  141.  
  142. Michaël: Yeah, and they don't really know what's gonna happen there. 
  143.  
  144. Polly: But that's the most maddening thing to me, that to me is so much better than seeing me sing a song. 
  145.  
  146. Martin: It means accepting to be surprised, not knowing what to expect.
  147.  
  148. Polly: I was hands down the best weekend ever, I'm definitely going to do more. 
  149.  
  150. Michaël: I'll try to come! 
  151.  
  152. Polly: I can't do it just like this though, it was very expensive, like really expensive. Had to fund two days of rad cult, but it was fucking fun. 
  153.  
  154. Martin: I've actually heard a bit of the musical part of the event. I guess you're aware of this since you shared it on your Facebook page, but there's a guy doing cassette bootlegs and he posted a bootleg for If You Think I'm a Bitch and he added a 9mn drone track at the end of it... 
  155.  
  156. Polly: Yeah we did that together, so he asked me to do it and he wanted to put it out for me. So yeah that was a bootleg of that, and that track was the one I played all weekend in between the sets. 
  157.  
  158. Martin: It was on loop? 
  159.  
  160. Polly: Yeah yeah yeah, « GFOTY is your savior » on repeat, and it's really good! Oh, do you have it? 
  161.  
  162. Martin: The tape went out of print... 
  163.  
  164. Polly: I'll send it to you! I've got two, I can send it to you guys. If you remind me I'll do it. 
  165.  
  166. Michaël: That'd be great thanks! 
  167.  
  168. Martin: That's the kind of token I'd really like to have! 
  169.  
  170. Polly: They only printed 30, it sold out in an hour but they gave me 10 so I can send some to you guys. 
  171.  
  172. Michaël: [after a shork pause] Hmm what did we wanna ask... 
  173.  
  174. Martin: I know what I want to ask, but go ahead! 
  175.  
  176. Michaël: I just can't get Nathan For You out of my mind right now for some reasons.
  177.  
  178. Polly: Why are you thinking about Nathan For You? 
  179.  
  180. Martin: Well actually we were gonna pretend to not know that you know him and ask a very naïve question like « Em... You've done a Starbucks parody with GFOTYBUCKS, and Nathan Fielder in his Nathan For You TV show also did a Dumb Starbucks... »
  181.  
  182. Polly: I love him... he's my ideal man. 
  183.  
  184. Michaël: Of course! It's just that we watched it in the past few months... 
  185.  
  186. Polly: Have you seen every episode? 
  187.  
  188. Michaël: Yes of course. 
  189.  
  190. Martin: Last year Michaël started to watch it and then I started to do too, it's a crazy show... 
  191.  
  192. Polly: Oh my God tell me about it, it's... he's amazing. 
  193.  
  194. Martin: So I was gonna ask, do you take inspiration from him? 
  195.  
  196. Polly: No! No, stop! GFOTYBUCKS was created before I'd seen the show. It was all around 4 years ago. I mean I love him, I'd do anything with him, so is he an inspiration? Yes. But have I done anything in my opinion similar - apart from GFOTYBUCKS? No. Although I would definitely open a GFOTYBUCKS. I love him so much! 
  197.  
  198. Martin: Let's just spread the love for Nathan For You! 
  199.  
  200. Michaël: There could be a sort of similarity between both of your characters.
  201.  
  202. Polly: No... That is honestly the best compliment I've ever received. 
  203.  
  204. Martin: There's kind of a strange awkwardness in GFOTY's character... *she laughs* not in Polly's though! Like for example I've been browsing your YouTube channel lately and there was an interview you made with a british girl band.
  205.  
  206. Polly: Little Mix yeah.
  207.  
  208. Martin: And I think in another universe, Nathan could've done a similar interview! 
  209.  
  210. Polly: Ok let's be honest, I don't think I was trying to put a character on then, I think I was just really hangover! 
  211.  
  212. Michaël: But that's the funniest part to me, it feels unintentional! 
  213.  
  214. Polly: But it's sad! I don't wanna be seen as awkward. Even more so than GFOTY I think that, as Polly, I am extremely awkward... 
  215.  
  216. Michaël: It is the same for Nathan, he says it comes from his real life persona.
  217.  
  218. Polly: Yeah so what Nathan does is take his real life character and make it even more awkward. But I've got an awkward character in real life so I've made myself trying to be less awkward! So that's like the opposite of Nathan! I don't know it's weird... it's interesting! 
  219.  
  220. *we try to transition but we're all stucked in a strange laugh*
  221.  
  222. Polly: w-what? 
  223.  
  224. Michaël: The jokes about the olives, I don't know if you remember that (in the interview)
  225.  
  226. Polly: Oh the olive joke! That was a good joke! 
  227.  
  228. Martin: Both jokes! 
  229.  
  230. Polly: I wasn't trying to be awkward! 
  231.  
  232. Michaël: Of course! And we both know about tappenade really well so it was actually funny! 
  233.  
  234. Polly: Thank you very very much! 
  235.  
  236. Michaël: You can feel validated. 
  237.  
  238. Polly: I do *laughs*
  239.  
  240. Martin: We were also gonna ask a question about the part of your content that is not music - though you already adressed that earlier. It feels like, even moreso since you went independant you've been on many mediums; If You Think I'm a Bitch has a full written story on your website for example... 
  241.  
  242. Polly: It's the whole brand thing, everything has a storyline. 
  243.  
  244. Martin: It's not all music. 
  245.  
  246. Polly: No, it's a tool for me. It wouldn't make sense cause I genuinely don't think I'm a musician. I make lyrics and I come up with ideas for everything but... If I was a musician there would be nothing about me cause I'm not the producer. I mean I can produce but I don't produce my songs, I work with people. 
  247.  
  248. Michaël: But you used to, didn't you? 
  249.  
  250. Polly: I can produce... But I don't. I started off making dumb birthday songs for kids, but I really wouldn't say I produce any of my songs. It's like 50/50, I sit and say what I want but I'm not producing. 
  251.  
  252. Martin: You said kind of the same thing about you being a DJ, or not being a DJ! So do you really not consider yourself being one? 
  253.  
  254. Polly: I've been DJing for 15 years now, I started out in a DJ girls trio called the Hormones. And we started doing it cause we were underage and we loved Pete Doherty – the Libertines and all that. So we came up with DJing to get in with that crew. And we did it cause we're in the same town and got really well known, there was music magazines and we went to crazy party in our 15s. That was really fun, being a groupie for a bit. So I can DJ and I put DJing in everything I do, however... I'm not a great DJ! Well I am but... I should learn a bit more. To me DJing is performance. It's not just like playing music. When I DJ, I DJ as GFOTY, so I'm DJing as a character, I'm making it chaotic. Everything I do is in a very specific mind frame. Cause if you ask me to DJ in a birthday party as Polly I'm not gonna be like "Yeaaaahh" I'll just do a regular boring set. 
  255.  
  256. Martin: Okay it makes sense. I was wondering if, as a character, you purposely avoided getting better at DJing. 
  257.  
  258. Polly: Every day I look at myself in the mirror - I don't do this - but I think « why am I not trying to be a better DJ? » I could do it at any minute, I have so many friends and so much access, I know how to use decks. People think - to me, I'm a good DJ, I'm alright - but they see the character. 
  259.  
  260. Martin: At the beginning of your Le Petit Bain set last year, you had DJ Paypal to come to your deck and from a distance it looked like he was explaining to you how to use it! 
  261.  
  262. Polly: No! He was not doing that! 
  263.  
  264. Martin: It's time to set the record straight. 
  265.  
  266. Polly: Okay first of all it was 4:30 in the morning! Me and Paypal are good friends. What he was doing was: like every DJ has a different way for their setup. What I don't know how to do when I play after another DJ who's done his specific setup, is change it. That's it! The only thing I ask is what channels what.
  267.  
  268. Michaël: I really relate to this actually! 
  269.  
  270. Polly: Thank you! Cause that's it, sometimes you're like an idiot... 
  271.  
  272. Martin: Michaël DJs a bit actually! 
  273.  
  274. Polly: Do you? 
  275.  
  276. Michaël: Yes, and you're actually a big inspiration in this respect. 
  277.  
  278. Polly: Thank you! Anyway you're from Paris too right? You should DJ, come DJ for me sometimes! 
  279.  
  280. Michaël: I'd really like to! Cause this pseudo-chaotic approach is also mine. I really love to hear your sets for that reason. I've got a lot of friends that - while part sceptical and part enthusiastic about what I do - somehow I always have to explain in the end what I was going for. 
  281.  
  282. Polly: That's it! The fact that you have to explain makes it weird. 
  283.  
  284. Michaël: Yeah it's like « It was supposed to be just done and that's it, why are you looking for a reason? »
  285.  
  286. Polly: I have a lot of parents or friends frol school who went like « oh is Polly just crazy now? Is she insane? » and I'm like « No, I'm just doing fun stuff ». But point is: I can DJ. Maybe not the best, but I know how to! 
  287.  
  288. Michaël: I would say the same. 
  289.  
  290. Polly: Thank you, give me a high five! *punch* Great shirt as well. 
  291.  
  292. Michaël: Thank you. It made me think of another trivial question: I was at a show you did late 2016 in the Heaven club in London, and so there was this guy on stage with you if you remember... 
  293.  
  294. Polly: On the guitar? 
  295.  
  296. Michaël: Yeah, who's that? 
  297.  
  298. Polly: Johnny. So he produced GFOTV and he did my versions of « Creep » and « We Are the Champions », he was my boyfriend at the time, and he does stand up comedy – he's quite well known, but yeah he's one of the most clever, amazing, talented people I know, so we do stuff together and he's really good.
  299.  
  300. Michaël: Is he the guy we get to hear on the song « The Argument »?
  301.  
  302. Polly: Yeah! That's him! His comedy is really good too.
  303.  
  304. Michaël: Is it online anywhere?
  305.  
  306. Polly: Yes, but when you watch comedy online at comedy clubs, it's shit. But you should see it live, it's really good, it's a cool thing to go see.
  307.  
  308. Martin: Actually in « The Argument » I thought it was your voice two times, pitched differently.
  309.  
  310. Polly: It could be, but no! There was a cool tweet the other day; there's a website called RhymeZone, and they found that if you put the word « Word » in, it just comes up with the lyrics of « The Argument »! I guess it's another troll song, but they figured out how I came up with the lyrics, it was a good discovery.
  311.  
  312. Martin: So you, as GFOTY, are actually an underground figure – do you consider yourself a figure of the underground?...
  313.  
  314. Polly: I'm definitely not overground! So I mean I guess so...
  315.  
  316. Martin: What I was wondering was that, let's say for the sake of the argument that you suddenly burst into the mainstream. Would you still be able to do what you do?
  317.  
  318. Polly: If I break into the overgrown suddenly I would continue doing exactly what I do, but I've broken through, meaning that's what the people in the overgrown scene wants, so hopefully – inch'allah and all of that, it means that I'll be more likely to perform in arenas and be someone who's more, like performance art and someone who people respect. But I'm like however it works. That'd be a dream!
  319.  
  320. Martin: I was wondering if you'd still be able to have that freedom of speech, that creative freedom you have now, if suddenly all eyes were turned onto you.
  321.  
  322. Polly: Well I think my messages aren't horrible messages. So if you dig deeper into anything I say – hopefully if that did happen, knock on wood – I think I'm a big advocate of all the good stuff people like, so I think the best way to do it is through true expression and not just be like « I support mental health! ». No one gives a shit about that, do it in a way in which we can tell you care. It's shame that the world doesn't want that yet. All that it wants is a pretty face to say it. I hope that one day what the world want is artists like us to speak it real as possible. You should do it and mean it, and not get paid to do it. You know what I mean.
  323.  
  324. Michaël: I do wonder, you've been using the word « troll », which is kind of surprising to me because I would've never used it to describe your work as I know it, that would feel derogatory in a way.
  325.  
  326. Polly: Oh no, a million percent, that's right.
  327.  
  328. Michaël: And also people could hear it in a way as meaning that what you do is insincere, or ironic or whatever, while it's obviously not the case.
  329.  
  330. Polly: Okay, so me saying « troll », I'm definitely not trolling. But like, when I put out the album it's not like « oh I'm gonna troll out my fans » but more like « I just wanna have fun ». I'm not like « Fuck you fans! », rather I'm gonna enjoy doing this and this is a fun thing to me, something like that. Trolling... well the fact that anything I do is ironic, I would never agree with. Cause I think that's boring. For everyone.
  331.  
  332. Michaël: It gets tired very quickly.
  333.  
  334. Polly: I would be really really boring for me to have ironic fans like that. I know a lot of people are, but my vibe is : I think a lot of people wanna know that they can do what they want and feel that freedom. And that's what I'm really going for in the stuff I do. As opposed to being like « Ha yeah let's have loads of fun ». I do that, but it's more like: fuck it!
  335.  
  336. Martin: If you were doing merely ironic stuff, it would get old pretty fast.
  337.  
  338. Polly: I'd hate that!
  339.  
  340. Michaël: It would be terrible for you and us!
  341.  
  342. Polly: It'd be horrible, and weird. So yeah, when I say troll in that sense it's more like having a bit of fun.
  343.  
  344. Martin: It's enjoying to challenge the fans!
  345.  
  346. Polly: Yeah, the challenge!
  347.  
  348. Michaël: I'm only asking because that's what people mean when they use that word. And there's a different meaning for you.
  349.  
  350. Polly: Yeah that's right!
  351.  
  352. Michaël: But it makes me think that you two last releases – the EP and the album – they are somehow more emotional, it seems, than what you used to do?
  353.  
  354. Polly: That is true, a million percent, thank you! Really. Like I said I worked on GFOTV with the closest person to me, Johnny – just like I know he's the clever person in my mind. And I wanted to do nothing more but do that album with the person who I think is so talented. It makes me feel actually really guilty, because it was a bit like... not a troll, but a slight joke you know.
  355.  
  356. Martin: You were maybe just aware of the fact that people would be perplexed.
  357.  
  358. Polly: It was more like to me, in my opinion, music isn't everything and you shouldn't worry so much about this release having less music. That's really the one thing people care about, new release new release new release, and what the new release doesn't really matter as long as the artist puts something out. People will always still care. And that's why, when Anthony Fantano and Iggy Pop wrote about something that I put out, it shows it. People don't care, they just want music. All they want is to hear shit, they don't care if they like it or not. People are still gonna bitch, or not bitch, it doesn't matter if you're being horrible about music or good about music. [Bad/That?] publicity is always gonna be the same for you. I can't tell if that makes any sense!
  359.  
  360. Michaël: It's actually quite deep...
  361.  
  362. Polly: See that's my other way of seeing things about GFOTV's release. Then, the real reason I put it out I will never tell!
  363.  
  364. Martin: We're not pressing you!
  365.  
  366. Polly: But I went in a tangent, your question was different, what did you ask me?
  367.  
  368. Michaël: Oh it was about your music getting more emotional.
  369.  
  370. Polly: Yes it was emotional in different ways. Then the EP, could've been out on PC Music, it would've been kinda similar but also really different because I've been working with different producers. I was just more free. But this EP was about a guy that I hated. I don't hate him now. So there was kind of a storyline.
  371.  
  372. Martin: There's also the videos accompanying that story.
  373.  
  374. Polly: Yeah it was kind of the transition into all of it. It's a love story as well.
  375.  
  376. Martin: It's even more emotional when you see the videos.
  377.  
  378. Polly: See, that's what I like to do the most. That's the most enjoyable thing. Thank you for taking the time to look at that, the majority of people don't know about that. That's why it's sad that people don't care about this stuff that I actually care about, and which I do 100% myself. But people don't care about art really.
  379.  
  380. Martin: That's even harder on the internet, it's so easy to just be playing a character behind a screen, being ironic, being a troll....
  381.  
  382. Michaël: It's like there couldn't be more to that.
  383.  
  384. Martin: It's hard to get out of this label, and start to think that « hey, maybe what she does is actually sincere! »
  385.  
  386. Polly: Yeah, that's it. So, I'm not ever gonna push it to people, but I love the fact that you guys got out of your way to figure it out, and done that, it's more than I could ask for. That is so much more what I'd like, than my songs being this great. And Iggy Pop! [not audible] I'm loving that, what can I say!
  387.  
  388. Michaël: What really struck me with this EP in the end is that, as much as you seem to hate the guy, the last track is about thanking you exes.
  389.  
  390. Polly: Cause they make you grow, as people! Even though you hate them you have to thank everyone because every single relationship makes you grow. It's really nice cause, obviously I chose songs in an order and think about it, I guess it kinda takes you on a journey [not audible] Any more ?
  391.  
  392. Martin: Yeah, and it's a small one but did you receive any fanmade videos for the GFOTV short clips?
  393.  
  394. Polly: No! Loads of people bought it from bandcamp, but I think I received two. Which is fine, but...
  395.  
  396. Martin: [pointing at Michaël] You were supposed to do some didn't you?
  397.  
  398. Michaël: I have the videos anyway.
  399.  
  400. Polly: Do you? Like everyone got them.
  401.  
  402. Michaël: Someone actually got them for me.
  403.  
  404. Martin: [lowkey] I did...
  405.  
  406. Polly: Oh wow, that's money off to charity gone! No it's fine.
  407.  
  408. Michaël: It's really intimidating too, cause it's just you and your couch so it kinda feels intimate. It feels a bit like « Am I allowed to manipulate this anyway I like? »
  409.  
  410. Polly: I guess you're right, maybe it's weird! I thought it was a good idea in my mind, to be like « I'm putting out all these new songs, and all these new videos, you can what you want, interactive... »
  411.  
  412. Michaël: You were talking earlier about how you rushed the process of making GFOTV, but wasn't it somehow the same with Call Him a Doctor?
  413.  
  414. Polly: So GFOTV was like « I'm gonna come up with the lyrics on the spot », I came out with the TV shows I wanted to talk about cause I know about them. Call Him a Doctor was a two-days writing camp with me, Alex (ndlr AG Cook) and Johnny where we sat and built it. Alex is an amazing producer and me and him work really well together, so we just managed to do it. I'm also very quick at writing lyrics. So that wasn't a rush in the same way.
  415.  
  416. Michaël: The composition of the tracks in GFOTV is very intricate.
  417.  
  418. Polly: Cause Johnny's an amazing musician. Oh, but I didn't mention the production, actually the album was recorded very quickly, but we spent some time after that on the production. It was recorded in two hours.
  419.  
  420. Martin: That's the best!
  421.  
  422. Polly: That's how you do it!
  423.  
  424. Martin: [facing Michaël] You had a question about popstars?
  425.  
  426. Michaël: Oh yeah, it's a pretty generic one actually, but I always wonder what the artist I like enjoy listening to. So who are your current favorite popstars, or any artists really.
  427.  
  428. Polly: Current? Well, I don't listen to current artists, if I do... is DJ Paypal current anymore? I love him.
  429.  
  430. Martin: He is!
  431.  
  432. Polly: I really like Rex Orange County, unconditionnally. Who else do I really listen to loads... Like, literally Stevie Wonder, Pixies, Queen, Carly Simon... these are old people! Maybe it's bad, but I don't really listen to new music.
  433.  
  434. Michaël: It's not really that important anyway.
  435.  
  436. Martin: It's interesting, do you not consider yourself to be connected to the music scene today?
  437.  
  438. Michaël: The zeitgeist!
  439.  
  440. Polly: No... I feel like an idiot! People often ask me questions, but I don't know anything about music! No I do obviously, but... no I don't! Sometimes I'm at home and I'm like « I guess I should Google Nicki Minaj? » to find out what's going on, because everytime I'm seeing my friends, I don't know if you've seen Friends, but I feel like Joey, everyone's talking and I'm like « yeah that's right, cool ». I've just got no knowledge about any of this. And it's awful. We can look at my Spotify last played, but other that that... That's really embarrassing!
  441.  
  442. Michaël: I have to say, it seems pretty common for well regarded artists to not know about what's going on.
  443.  
  444. Polly: No, well maybe you're right, but I feel like I should know more.
  445.  
  446. Michaël: I'm not saying it's a problem, just that it's maybe more common than you imagine.
  447.  
  448. Polly: I hope so, because right now I feel like a big idiot. Nah I don't feel that bad, I feel pretty great. What I do need is another drink, do you have any more questions?
  449.  
  450. Martin: One last thing: do you have anything to say for all the indie rock fans on Xsilence.net?
  451.  
  452. Polly: Live long and GFOTY. Oh and... Libertines... are great!
  453.  
  454. Michaël: And the Pixies!
  455.  
  456. Polly: And the Pixies! There you go! Looks like you paid me to say that!
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