Care Factor Council Mails 4/30/2014

Re: Chastot is back
From: Andraea Sarstae
Sent: 2014.04.25 23:05
To: C.F Council,

For those of us on the US west coast, there generally aren't any organised fleets running in the late evening hours in Provi. So, but the time I get home from work and get some food (9PM PDT), there isn't much organized action going on.

The few of us who are active then tend to form out own small reactionary fleets when reds show up, but generally it's pretty quiet. Our camper friends also don't seem to bother people during those hours, so I doubt they're at the keyboard able to be baited.

I check the CVA forums for fleet anouncements, but have yet to run into one that I can actually join due to time constraints.

That said, I do see a some people mining and ratting all the time, and don't seem to have any interest in PvP. I don't know how to solve that particular problem, as it's hard to make people interested in playing a game in a way they don't find interesting or rewarding.

I think our biggest problem is that we've done/said things in the past that have caught the attention of this group of players. They love causing drama, and based on their blog posts, seem to have the goal of destroying our alliance.

It doesn't seem like we have a lot of sympathy from the PvP segment of our blue allies here in Provi, as they make snide remarks in local and on the CVA forums about carebears, etc, etc. I'm not usually one for conspiracy theories, but I sure do get the feeling that the leadership of some of our allies would prefer to see us gone from Provi, as they consider us to be non-contributing and worthless to Provibloc.

Despite what I've heard some people say, we really don't have the capability to tell the rest of Providence to fuck off, nor would we last very long as an independent alliance even if we could. Even if we all had supers and titans available, we just don't have the numbers to compete on the big stage.

So, where does that leave us? I think the only realistic answer is diplomacy with this group that has a hard-on for our total destruction. Find out what is motivating them, and then figure out a way to get them uninterested in camping us 23/7.

When they're dropping our Orcas with supers and logging off cap ships in our systems, a military response is more likely to leave us even more frustrated than we already are, because we're almost assuredly going to come out on the short end.

I know some people will think I'm being negative, but I think I'm just being realistic.


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On a personal note, I haven't been playing nearly as much, as my project is getting close to the end of Beta, and we're now in serious crunch mode. I log on and do PI now and then while I'm compiling code or waiting for a smoke test to finish, but I am here 10-12 hours a day, 6 days a week, and my family generally needs what little free time I have left over.

Otherwise I'd be potatoing it up with you guys.

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We've got a problem...
From: Andraea Sarstae
Sent: 2014.04.30 08:46
To:

... but I'm not sure what to do about it. As I write this, I'm pretty bummed out and discouraged.

Basically, morale is getting low, people are on comms and alliance chat talking about how CCP changes/enforces the rules to benefit our enemies and penalize us, how CVA doesn't care about us, doesn't do anything to defend us, is collaborating with Nulli to have them take our space so CVA cna take it back and not give it to us, etc.

Now alliance members are apparently about to start shooting neutrals on sight, which of course will definitely get the rest of Provibloc's attention.... but not in the way we want.

I like it here. I'd like to stay here. But bitter-vet syndrome is turning this into a highly toxic environment, and I'm afraid it's in danger of imploding in on all of us.

And, quite frankly, who wants to log on to a play a video game and encounter a solid wall of negativity about everything? There's enough of that IRL, this is supposed to be fun and relaxing...

So... can we do anything about this? Do enough of us actually want to?

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Re: We've got a problem...
From: cheebafett
Sent: 2014.04.30 10:06
To: C.F Council, Andraea Sarstae,


I have never heard anyone talk about shooting neutrals. I would like to know who said these things. As fas as morale, people have to realize that being camped is part of life in 0.0. We have been camped before and will be camped again. Until CCP realizes that 23/7 camping is an exploit and evens up the playing field, It is part of the game we have to deal with.

There are ways to make money in all the systems here not even our own. I live in GB and have been affected by the camping but I know THIS IS WHAT THEY WANT. THis is a war of diligence and resolve. We have to hold the line and not show that their exploits are NOT affecting us.

As far as CVA not defending us and collaboration with Nhiliists Social Club. This is not proven and should not be said or discussed. If CVA wanted us out they could just remove us with a whim. They dont need back room tactics or some mercenary group to do it. They actually have to deal with nihilist blowing up CVA towers all the time.

What can be done about it? The only thing I know is to join CVA fleets, which we do. and someone to run operations on their coms and publicly announce PVP fleets or mining ops.

I would like to know who in the Alliance is propogating distrust and making threats. If anyone wants to email me situations and names it will only be between the two of us.

Cheebs