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  1. [11/26/2015 4:32:52 PM] Hoeloe: Darky and Dem did have one idea that I liked in their story and hope we introduce and some point
  2. [11/26/2015 4:32:57 PM] Hoeloe: the TRUE IDENTITY OF THE ARTIST
  3. [11/26/2015 4:33:01 PM] rockyguyperson: Same
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  7. [11/26/2015 7:12:14 PM] Hoeloe: the artist doesn't have any kind of look yet
  8. [11/26/2015 7:12:16 PM] Horikawa Otane: need to play with the camera
  9. [11/26/2015 7:12:18 PM] Horikawa Otane: never done that before
  10. [11/26/2015 7:12:25 PM] Horikawa Otane: but assuming it works like i think it does, it should be okay
  11. [11/26/2015 7:12:39 PM] Hoeloe: basically, the Artist is some mysterious figure that nobody knows much about
  12. [11/26/2015 7:12:49 PM] Hoeloe: there are some suggestions as to the Artist's identity, but
  13. [11/26/2015 7:12:49 PM] Horikawa Otane: the artist is kinda silly imho haha
  14. [11/26/2015 7:12:55 PM] Hoeloe: nothing concrete
  15. [11/26/2015 7:12:59 PM] Horikawa Otane: it's getting a little bit too far into foroze/justice man territory
  16. [11/26/2015 7:13:11 PM] Hoeloe: I just want the suggestion that The Artist = Demo's dog to be a thing
  17. [11/26/2015 7:13:12 PM] Wasabi: I mean not really yet?
  18. [11/26/2015 7:13:18 PM] Wasabi: Canonically at least
  19. [11/26/2015 7:13:20 PM] Hoeloe: because that is hilarious
  20. [11/26/2015 7:13:23 PM] Wasabi: Pal
  21. [11/26/2015 7:13:24 PM] Horikawa Otane: yeah i'd support that
  22. [11/26/2015 7:13:26 PM] Horikawa Otane: he's gotta be silly
  23. [11/26/2015 7:13:31 PM] Horikawa Otane: he can't be SUPER SERIOUS
  24. [11/26/2015 7:13:38 PM] Hoeloe: yeah, way more fun that way
  25. [11/26/2015 7:13:39 PM] Horikawa Otane: and a2xt:1 got into that territory more than i was comfortable with
  26. [11/26/2015 7:13:46 PM] SAJewers: hmm?
  27. [11/26/2015 7:13:56 PM] Hoeloe: a2xt1 was kind of a mess plot wise
  28. [11/26/2015 7:14:09 PM] SAJewers: it was
  29. [11/26/2015 7:14:20 PM] Horikawa Otane: like The Artist seems to be like a super bad ott OC
  30. [11/26/2015 7:14:25 PM] Horikawa Otane: written by some like 12 year old fanfic author
  31. [11/26/2015 7:14:29 PM] Hoeloe: which is why the Robot Erasing Time Cracks Over Night is a thing
  32. [11/26/2015 7:14:48 PM] SAJewers: probably didn't help that they came up with the plot before we finished gathering levels
  33. [11/26/2015 7:14:50 PM] Wasabi: 3bestname
  34. [11/26/2015 7:15:09 PM] Wasabi: Yeah honestly, from what I've heard not the best people to make a story
  35. [11/26/2015 7:15:16 PM] Hoeloe: well, I don't know, I think it's more that the plot wasn't really considered in conjunction with the levels
  36. [11/26/2015 7:15:24 PM] Hoeloe: just as a way to string the levels together
  37. [11/26/2015 7:15:47 PM] Hoeloe: plot can and probably should be at least vaguely laid out before all the levels are in place
  38. [11/26/2015 7:16:00 PM] Hoeloe: ideally the plot should be there, with enough flexibility to bend to the remaining levels
  39. [11/26/2015 7:16:12 PM] Horikawa Otane: idk i like a hella lot less plot
  40. [11/26/2015 7:16:15 PM] Horikawa Otane: more focus on levels
  41. [11/26/2015 7:16:18 PM] Wasabi: which we've baaasically done
  42. [11/26/2015 7:16:24 PM] Horikawa Otane: and a focused theme
  43. [11/26/2015 7:16:30 PM] Horikawa Otane: on comedy rather than some sort of epic tale or whatever
  44. [11/26/2015 7:16:31 PM] W.D. Gaster "GOG": [Thursday, November 26, 2015 7:12 PM] Hoeloe:
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  46. <<< basically, the Artist is some mysterious figure that nobody knows much abouti think he could be a Cyclops
  47. [11/26/2015 7:16:37 PM] Hoeloe: idk, I think plot is okay as long as it's actually interesting in its own right
  48. [11/26/2015 7:16:45 PM] Horikawa Otane: i mean, sure
  49. [11/26/2015 7:16:46 PM] Horikawa Otane: but like
  50. [11/26/2015 7:16:51 PM] Horikawa Otane: it shouild be funny at its core
  51. [11/26/2015 7:16:53 PM] Hoeloe: the Artist isn't something we're working out now, that's for episode 3
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  55. [12/2/2015 8:56:57 AM] Duvi: We should have a relationship between literally all of the siblings and all of the uncles
  56. [12/2/2015 8:57:10 AM] Duvi: even if it's unused or unstated, it's good to have
  57. [12/2/2015 8:57:33 AM] Duvi: do we have visual designs of the Uncles?
  58. [12/2/2015 8:57:34 AM] Maciej B. // Minnakht: draw a dodecahedron
  59. [12/2/2015 8:57:42 AM] Maciej B. // Minnakht: raocow made them, I believe
  60. [12/2/2015 8:57:44 AM] SAJewers: broadsword is demo's favourite uncles, but iris doesn't like him because he didn't give her snything for christmas
  61. [12/2/2015 8:58:02 AM] Duvi: OK, so that's 2/9 for Broadsword
  62. [12/2/2015 8:58:22 AM] Maciej B. // Minnakht: let me throw up a sheet for this or something
  63. [12/2/2015 8:58:28 AM] Duvi: I'm already on that
  64. [12/2/2015 8:58:31 AM] Maciej B. // Minnakht: and by 'let me' I mean 'go do it if you want'
  65. [12/2/2015 8:58:31 AM] Duvi: So anyway
  66. [12/2/2015 8:58:49 AM] Duvi: Did raocow provide designs for the uncles?
  67. [12/2/2015 8:58:51 AM] Wasabi: So we just doing BS first?
  68. [12/2/2015 8:58:51 AM] SAJewers: http://atxs.wikia.com/wiki/Float
  69. [12/2/2015 8:58:55 AM] rockythechao aka oldshamesmcgee: actually I started one a while back
  70. [12/2/2015 8:58:55 AM] Wasabi: Yeah
  71. [12/2/2015 8:59:02 AM] SAJewers: maybe bring her in with the raocoins or something
  72. [12/2/2015 8:59:07 AM] rockythechao aka oldshamesmcgee: https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1HUlrbQoaJaaXM8pUzNl5Nkapmpii9cfrYKdpayHDT4k/edit?usp=sharing
  73. [12/2/2015 8:59:47 AM] rockythechao aka oldshamesmcgee: this was back when I still thought Darky and Dem would be returning for Ep. 2's story so take some of those with a grain of salt
  74. [12/2/2015 8:59:58 AM] Duvi: yeah, uh
  75. [12/2/2015 8:59:59 AM] rockythechao aka oldshamesmcgee: I don't really remember what I put for a lot of 'em
  76. [12/2/2015 9:00:03 AM] Duvi: a lot of these are going to change
  77. [12/2/2015 9:00:12 AM] rockythechao aka oldshamesmcgee: yep
  78. [12/2/2015 9:00:35 AM | Edited 9:00:43 AM] rockythechao aka oldshamesmcgee: especially the mishi column and row :D
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  82. [12/2/2015 9:13:20 AM] Duvi: hold on, is Pal actually The Artist?
  83. [12/2/2015 9:13:30 AM] Willhart: If it is based on the previous games then maybe.
  84. [12/2/2015 9:13:39 AM] Maciej B. // Minnakht: I wouldn't say so
  85. [12/2/2015 9:13:43 AM] Maciej B. // Minnakht: although it'd be funny
  86. [12/2/2015 9:13:43 AM] rockythechao aka oldshamesmcgee: Several of us want that, idk if it's been officially decided yet
  87. [12/2/2015 9:13:48 AM] Duvi: Since SAJ is in charge, then we let him decide
  88. [12/2/2015 9:13:51 AM] Maciej B. // Minnakht: eh, too much of an Undertale reference
  89. [12/2/2015 9:13:54 AM] Willhart: I'll have to find the old story book, if that is even still used.
  90. [12/2/2015 9:13:58 AM] Duvi: be right back
  91. [12/2/2015 9:14:06 AM] rockythechao aka oldshamesmcgee: ? this was an idea before Undertale was even a thing
  92. [12/2/2015 9:14:17 AM] rockythechao aka oldshamesmcgee: I mean, before it was released
  93. [12/2/2015 9:14:20 AM] Maciej B. // Minnakht: the demo was a thing since 2011?
  94. [12/2/2015 9:14:22 AM] Maciej B. // Minnakht: or so?
  95. [12/2/2015 9:14:31 AM] Wasabi: So Rewind and Science, Demo and Broadsword, @sbestos and Mishi/Calleoca, Denmark and Pily?
  96. [12/2/2015 9:14:35 AM] Willhart: Story book was written soon after A2XT or something.
  97. [12/2/2015 9:14:36 AM] Wasabi: Just throwing ideas out
  98. [12/2/2015 9:14:42 AM] Wasabi: Demo was a thing before 2011
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  102. [12/2/2015 9:17:36 AM] rockythechao aka oldshamesmcgee: but I should note that, iirc, Darky and Demolition came up with Pal explicitly as a parody of mascot characters added to groups that act like they were always there
  103. [12/2/2015 9:17:59 AM] rockythechao aka oldshamesmcgee: that I think they had planned for him to be the Artist from the beginning
  104. [12/2/2015 9:18:04 AM] rockythechao aka oldshamesmcgee: for whatever that's worth
  105. [12/2/2015 9:18:08 AM] Willhart: I found it.
  106. [12/2/2015 9:18:09 AM] Duvi: To be honest
  107. [12/2/2015 9:18:12 AM] Duvi: it's not a bad idea
  108. [12/2/2015 9:18:19 AM] Duvi: one of their few not-bad ideas
  109. [12/2/2015 9:18:22 AM] Willhart: Here is the old story bible thing for anyone interested,
  110. [12/2/2015 9:18:24 AM] Willhart: https://docs.google.com/document/d/1R0bIu73laaxyDmQzLLEotfM2gaT-qWcDSGp4l8-51pU/edit
  111. [12/2/2015 9:18:37 AM] rockythechao aka oldshamesmcgee: yeah, I posted it in the cutscene thread a while back
  112. [12/2/2015 9:18:46 AM] rockythechao aka oldshamesmcgee: and someone quoted it
  113. [12/2/2015 9:18:46 AM] Willhart: It goes up to ep 4 for some reason.
  114. [12/2/2015 9:18:49 AM] rockythechao aka oldshamesmcgee: yep
  115. [12/2/2015 9:19:02 AM] rockythechao aka oldshamesmcgee: the current plan is Ep. 3 is the Elders, Ep. 4 is the Artist
  116. [12/2/2015 9:19:13 AM] Willhart: Ok. That is news to me.
  117. [12/2/2015 9:19:20 AM] rockythechao aka oldshamesmcgee: That was from SAJ himself
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  121. [12/2/2015 10:28:12 PM | Removed 10:28:21 PM] 11teleport: This message has been removed.
  122. [12/2/2015 10:28:27 PM] Rednaxela: ... :|
  123. [12/2/2015 10:28:35 PM | Removed 10:29:23 PM] rockythechao aka oldshamesmcgee: This message has been removed.
  124. [12/2/2015 10:28:43 PM | Removed 10:28:50 PM] Duvi: This message has been removed.
  125. [12/2/2015 10:29:06 PM | Removed 10:29:15 PM] Horikawa Otane: This message has been removed.
  126. [12/2/2015 10:29:07 PM] SnoruntPyro: i mean the only choices i can think of for me right now are mishi and pandamona
  127. [12/2/2015 10:29:12 PM] SnoruntPyro: since pily already has a canon voice
  128. [12/2/2015 10:29:18 PM | Removed 10:29:21 PM] Rednaxela: This message has been removed.
  129. [12/2/2015 10:29:24 PM] Duvi: is Maiku Wotaharu even still with us though
  130. [12/2/2015 10:29:27 PM | Removed 10:29:31 PM] SnoruntPyro: This message has been removed.
  131. [12/2/2015 10:29:33 PM] Horikawa Otane: Hahahaha if Foroze was The Artist. And also Pal.
  132. [12/2/2015 10:29:34 PM] 11teleport: he posted in rao's latest videos
  133. [12/2/2015 10:29:35 PM] Duvi: because if he is, raddddd
  134. [12/2/2015 10:29:57 PM] Rednaxela: "Last active: 02 Dec 2015, 19:58"
  135. [12/2/2015 10:30:01 PM] rockythechao aka oldshamesmcgee: Every villain is Pal
  136. [12/2/2015 10:30:02 PM] Rednaxela: So, logged in to Talkhaus today
  137. [12/2/2015 10:30:08 PM] Horikawa Otane: Maiku should voice Demo
  138. [12/2/2015 10:30:10 PM] Rednaxela: Also posted
  139. [12/2/2015 10:30:12 PM] Horikawa Otane: Obvs
  140. [12/2/2015 10:30:28 PM] Duvi: well we might be able to get Maiku to voice for Pily again then
  141. [12/2/2015 10:30:37 PM] rockythechao aka oldshamesmcgee: Maiku should voice everyone except Nevada. He's voiced by Bill Clinton
  142. [12/2/2015 10:30:50 PM] Rednaxela: [Wednesday, December 2, 2015 10:29 PM] Horikawa Otane:
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  144. <<< Hahahaha if Foroze was The Artist. And also Pal.Foroze is the right sort of goofy-brooding, clearly
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  148. [12/7/2015 7:38:32 AM] Maciej B. // Minnakht: hey guys, remember the "pal is the artist" proposition?
  149. [12/7/2015 7:38:41 AM] Maciej B. // Minnakht: proposal
  150. [12/7/2015 7:38:42 AM] Maciej B. // Minnakht: whichever
  151. [12/7/2015 7:38:51 AM] Duvi: yes
  152. [12/7/2015 7:38:53 AM] retchthehaycook: same diff, what about it?
  153. [12/7/2015 7:38:56 AM] Hoeloe: I want that to be a thing
  154. [12/7/2015 7:38:58 AM] Maciej B. // Minnakht: <Undertale spoiler>
  155. [12/7/2015 7:38:59 AM] Duvi: same
  156. [12/7/2015 7:39:09 AM] Duvi: Oh damn it Minna
  157. [12/7/2015 7:39:09 AM] Hoeloe: oh also Duvi, you made Frenzy Citadel right?
  158. [12/7/2015 7:39:13 AM] Duvi: Yeah?
  159. [12/7/2015 7:39:18 AM] Duvi: I fixed the shell jump
  160. [12/7/2015 7:39:22 AM] Hoeloe: it got a copyright claim on my review video
  161. [12/7/2015 7:39:27 AM] Duvi: I didn't intend for it to be that
  162. [12/7/2015 7:39:29 AM] Duvi: Oh, OK
  163. [12/7/2015 7:39:34 AM] Duvi: I'm gonna fix that too
  164. [12/7/2015 7:45:42 AM] retchthehaycook: <Undertale spoiler>A) still not really a spoiler because what I think you're getting at is a bit of a stretch, and B) similar twists have been done before in other games and other media, both as jokes/fakeouts and serious turns of events.
  165. [12/7/2015 7:46:32 AM] Duvi: well it could be any of the character twists
  166. [12/7/2015 7:46:56 AM | Edited 7:48:00 AM] Duvi: fluffybuns, the flower, skeleton, any one of them
  167. [12/7/2015 7:47:27 AM] Wasabi: <<<<<<SPOIIIILERRRRR>>>>>>
  168. [12/7/2015 7:50:58 AM] Duvi: sorry about that
  169. [12/7/2015 8:02:19 AM] FrozenQuills: tomorrow is a fan fav
  170. [12/7/2015 8:02:31 AM] FrozenQuills: wrong chat hi
  171. [12/7/2015 8:02:42 AM] retchthehaycook: C) Paradoxically, it's only as much of a spoiler as you're making it out to be because you're making it out to be a spoiler hi frozenquills
  172. [12/7/2015 8:06:11 AM | Edited 8:06:19 AM] retchthehaycook: D) I may have used "paradoxically" incorrectly there
  173. [12/7/2015 8:08:06 AM] Wasabi: Hard to tell haha
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  177. [12/31/2015 2:15:11 PM] Mikkofier: what if The Artist used a leek of power as a catalyst?
  178. [12/31/2015 2:15:53 PM | Edited 2:16:11 PM] rockythechao: to transform into/disguise himself as Pal?
  179. [12/31/2015 2:16:33 PM] Hoeloe: I just figured the Artist was just a tiny dog and this ends up being the source of much amusement
  180. [12/31/2015 2:18:54 PM] rockythechao: That would indeed be quite amusing
  181. [12/31/2015 7:39:28 PM] Wasabi: His only rationale for doing things is a dog's reasoning
  182. [12/31/2015 7:41:50 PM] Maciej B. // Minnakht: Hey Hoeloe
  183. [12/31/2015 7:44:23 PM | Edited 7:44:27 PM] Rednaxibli ...: What if the Artist was Demo all along
  184. [12/31/2015 7:44:26 PM] Hoeloe: what did I do now
  185. [12/31/2015 7:44:38 PM] Hoeloe: The Master was Demo all along
  186. [12/31/2015 7:44:53 PM] Maciej B. // Minnakht: I don't know
  187. [12/31/2015 7:44:56 PM] Wasabi: Demo was Iris all along
  188. [12/31/2015 7:45:00 PM] Maciej B. // Minnakht: how's Undertale going for you
  189. [12/31/2015 7:53:55 PM] Romaji Amulo: Demo was kood all allong
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  193. [1/6/2016 6:06:35 PM] Horikawa Otane: So who is the artist
  194. [1/6/2016 6:06:42 PM] Horikawa Otane: Did it end up being Pal
  195. [1/6/2016 6:06:43 PM] rockoftheages: Pal
  196. [1/6/2016 6:06:48 PM] Horikawa Otane: Awesome
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  200. [2/10/2016 8:45:10 AM] Horikawa Otane: [Wednesday, February 10, 2016 8:35 AM] rockythechao:
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  202. <<< it's not going to be in Ep. 2 at this rate but with a bit of dumb luck, elbow grease and someone's left kidney I can probably make it the most plot-critical level of Ep. 3hahahaha what
  203. [2/10/2016 8:45:24 AM] Horikawa Otane: The entire plot of Ep. 3 is the krew is trying to stop the Second Cousins from using the Elders' powers to turn everyone into Horikawawait are you serious
  204. [2/10/2016 8:45:51 AM] FrozenQuills: cool
  205. [2/10/2016 8:45:52 AM] rockythechao: Not really :P
  206. [2/10/2016 8:46:17 AM] Wasabi: The actual plot is to destroy the yacht of opinions
  207. [2/10/2016 8:46:39 AM] Wasabi: Cause they all applied but their levels were so bad that they weren't even added
  208. [2/10/2016 8:46:58 AM] rockythechao: Respect simply did not take the news well
  209. [2/10/2016 8:47:24 AM] Wasabi: He has now sworn cycloptic vengeance against Horikawa
  210. [2/10/2016 8:47:38 AM] Wasabi: It's like normal vengeance but with less depth perception
  211. [2/10/2016 8:48:23 AM] Horikawa Otane: [Wednesday, February 10, 2016 8:45 AM] rockythechao:
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  213. <<< Not really darn
  214. [2/10/2016 8:49:02 AM] rockythechao: I mean, that could totally be the plot for Ep. 2.5
  215. [2/10/2016 8:50:01 AM] Wasabi: 2.5 Geisha Jive
  216. [2/10/2016 8:50:35 AM] rockythechao: wait, is it Talking Time Bros 2.5 I'm thinking of or 1.5?
  217. [2/10/2016 8:50:47 AM] FrozenQuills: talking time had a 2.5
  218. [2/10/2016 8:51:01 AM] rockythechao: which was the space one, right?
  219. [2/10/2016 8:51:05 AM] FrozenQuills: ye
  220. [2/10/2016 8:51:21 AM] Hoeloe: The Master is secretly Horikawa
  221. [2/10/2016 8:51:40 AM] Hoeloe: The Artist is Pal
  222. [2/10/2016 8:51:45 AM] Hoeloe: who is secretly raocow
  223. [2/10/2016 8:52:40 AM] rockythechao: who is secretly saltine the standard
  224. [2/10/2016 8:53:05 AM] Wasabi: Omg actually I have a really good idea for saltine
  225. [2/10/2016 8:54:33 AM] Wasabi: Hidden boss: Buff Saltine
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  229. [2/17/2016 9:46:44 AM] Hoeloe: oh man it would be hilarious if kood was one of the space masters of space
  230. [2/17/2016 9:46:48 AM] Wasabi: Not the elders
  231. [2/17/2016 9:46:50 AM] Wasabi: Omg
  232. [2/17/2016 9:47:03 AM] Hoeloe: like the whole time
  233. [2/17/2016 9:47:10 AM] Hoeloe: and they're all like "you never said"
  234. [2/17/2016 9:47:14 AM] Hoeloe: and he's like "you never asked"
  235. [2/17/2016 9:47:28 AM] Wasabi: But he's all super chill about it
  236. [2/17/2016 9:47:33 AM] rockythechao: Maybe he doesn't even know it himself
  237. [2/17/2016 9:47:36 AM] Hoeloe: yeah like it's not a big deal
  238. [2/17/2016 9:47:38 AM] Wasabi: Nothing changes about their relationship
  239. [2/17/2016 9:47:53 AM] Hoeloe: i think it's funnier if he knows but doesn't consider it as important
  240. [2/17/2016 9:47:55 AM] Wasabi: He just is one of the strongest beings in the universe
  241. [2/17/2016 9:48:36 AM] Wasabi: Is kood still going to be the only one who cares about plot
  242. [2/17/2016 9:48:46 AM] rockythechao: His power is relative to how many people afford him respect and authority
  243. [2/17/2016 9:49:14 AM] rockythechao: Since everyone looks down on him he's the weakest space master
  244. [2/17/2016 9:50:06 AM] Wasabi: Or he's a space master and gets all smug about it then you find out he just went to space master camp in elementary school
  245. [2/17/2016 9:50:40 AM] rockythechao: He's a complete disgrace to the other space masters so they all collectively cross his name out in their high school yearbooks
  246. [2/17/2016 9:50:50 AM] FrozenQuills: [Wednesday, February 17, 2016 9:46 AM] Hoeloe:
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  248. <<< also who are the space masters of space
  249. oh man it would be hilarious if kood was one of the space masters of spacethat'd be great
  250. [2/17/2016 9:50:57 AM] Hoeloe: i think it would be incredibly funny if this is like the one occasion kood isn't the butt of the joke
  251. [2/17/2016 9:51:17 AM] Hoeloe: like people have been looking down on him and making fun of him the whole time
  252. [2/17/2016 9:51:29 AM] Hoeloe: and he's actually a space master of space
  253. [2/17/2016 9:51:41 AM] Hoeloe: but completely fails to see why this is at all important
  254. [2/17/2016 9:51:47 AM] Hoeloe: and nobody believes him
  255. [2/17/2016 9:52:24 AM] Hoeloe: and like he's on first name terms with demo's master
  256. [2/17/2016 9:52:41 AM] rockythechao: What even is Demo's Master's first name?
  257. [2/17/2016 9:52:52 AM] Hoeloe: Bill maybe
  258. [2/17/2016 9:53:04 AM] rockythechao: Maybe Kood just calls him that
  259. [2/17/2016 9:53:20 AM] rockythechao: And Demo's Master just got used to it
  260. [2/17/2016 9:53:29 AM] Hoeloe: omg
  261. [2/17/2016 9:53:31 AM] Hoeloe: what if
  262. [2/17/2016 9:53:40 AM] Hoeloe: kood refers to all the space masters of spacce by mundane names
  263. [2/17/2016 9:53:45 AM] rockythechao: wait
  264. [2/17/2016 9:53:48 AM] Hoeloe: and they're all totally wrong but no-one says anything
  265. [2/17/2016 9:53:49 AM] rockythechao: then that would make feed
  266. [2/17/2016 9:53:51 AM] Wasabi: Hahahha
  267. [2/17/2016 9:53:52 AM] Hoeloe: you know where this is going
  268. [2/17/2016 9:53:53 AM] rockythechao: YES
  269. [2/17/2016 9:54:15 AM] Wasabi: THE BUILD UP
  270. [2/17/2016 9:54:19 AM] Wasabi: Planned all along
  271. [2/17/2016 9:54:24 AM] Hoeloe: Feed is a space master of space also
  272. [2/17/2016 9:54:28 AM] rockythechao: Yesss
  273. [2/17/2016 9:54:39 AM] rockythechao: Calleoca is one in training
  274. [2/17/2016 9:54:45 AM] Hoeloe: heh
  275. [2/17/2016 9:55:08 AM] Wasabi: Calleoca is just a space master
  276. [2/17/2016 9:55:12 AM] FrozenQuills: and
  277. [2/17/2016 9:55:15 AM] FrozenQuills: pal?
  278. [2/17/2016 9:55:17 AM] Hoeloe: actually would be cool if we never reveal who demos master is
  279. [2/17/2016 9:55:20 AM] rockythechao: pal is the artist
  280. [2/17/2016 9:55:21 AM] Wasabi: Pal is the artist
  281. [2/17/2016 9:55:21 AM] FrozenQuills: wait idk what's up with pal
  282. [2/17/2016 9:55:22 AM] FrozenQuills: ah
  283. [2/17/2016 9:55:30 AM] rockythechao: maybe the artist could be a space master himself?
  284. [2/17/2016 9:55:34 AM] Hoeloe: Potentially a space master of space gone rogue
  285. [2/17/2016 9:55:39 AM] Wasabi: I mean I'm assuning so
  286. [2/17/2016 9:55:46 AM] SnoruntPyro: i'm so happy that "pal is the artist" is actually a thing that is canon ;3
  287. [2/17/2016 9:55:47 AM] Wasabi: They could all have titles
  288. [2/17/2016 9:55:49 AM] Hoeloe: yeah pal is the artist
  289. [2/17/2016 9:55:58 AM] rockythechao: speaking of which
  290. [2/17/2016 9:56:01 AM] Wasabi: Like Kood could be The Turtle
  291. [2/17/2016 9:56:07 AM] Wasabi: Except not that lane
  292. [2/17/2016 9:56:08 AM] rockythechao: the whole "giant form" thing
  293. [2/17/2016 9:56:09 AM] Wasabi: Lame
  294. [2/17/2016 9:56:21 AM] rockythechao: I actually made a pixel dog head thing
  295. [2/17/2016 9:56:28 AM] Hoeloe: oh man
  296. [2/17/2016 9:57:03 AM] rockythechao: gimme a sec to imgur it
  297. [2/17/2016 9:58:58 AM] rockythechao: http://i.imgur.com/7B4umqJ.png
  298. Traced over a photo and tweaked, still tweaking.
  299. [2/17/2016 9:59:09 AM] Hoeloe: yesssss
  300. [2/17/2016 10:00:37 AM] Wasabi: That is terrifying
  301. [2/17/2016 10:00:39 AM] Wasabi: I'm down
  302. [2/17/2016 10:01:02 AM | Edited 10:02:11 AM] rockythechao: when we get to the battle with him in Ep. 4, the first phase could be regular dog form, second could be whatever the full version of this will be, third could be Kefka's final form with Pal's head
  303. [2/17/2016 10:01:11 AM] Wasabi: Needs a beret and a paintbrush in his mouth
  304. [2/17/2016 10:01:33 AM] rockythechao: agreed
  305. [2/17/2016 10:01:54 AM] Hoeloe: the first form should require picking him up and throwing him in lava
  306. [2/17/2016 10:02:07 AM] Hoeloe: just a non-fight
  307. [2/17/2016 10:03:04 AM] FrozenQuills: oh my god i can't imagine how raocow would react to that hahah
  308. [2/17/2016 10:03:40 AM] rockythechao: Maybe like he's flying around in the air with all these elaborate attacks and everything, then you knock him down and then he's just on his back flailing his paws helplessly until you toss him in
  309. [2/17/2016 10:03:51 AM] SnoruntPyro: hahahahaha this sounds great
  310. [2/17/2016 10:03:56 AM] Wasabi: We need our own dogsong
  311. [2/17/2016 10:04:18 AM] rockythechao: Someone go make the Artist's theme in Mario Paint
  312. [2/17/2016 10:04:36 AM] Wasabi: Melody exclusively in yaps
  313. [2/17/2016 10:05:12 AM] rockythechao: or maybe it's like an epic orchestral thing with the ominous latin chanting replaced with the Mario Paint dog
  314. [2/17/2016 10:05:23 AM] Wasabi: Hahahaha
  315. [2/17/2016 10:06:53 AM] Wasabi: By ep 4 our bosses need to be AMAZING though
  316.  
  317. ...
  318.  
  319. [2/17/2016 10:14:09 AM] rockythechao: Are we going with the idea that the Artist is in hiding due to the elders and second cousins/the SC's boss?
  320. [2/17/2016 10:15:18 AM] rockythechao: if we do that, things kinda fall in place
  321. [2/17/2016 10:16:36 AM] rockythechao: The Artist is a rogue space master of space, the rival could be another space master trying to weed him out either for personal reasons or to apprehend him on behalf of the other space masters
  322. [2/17/2016 10:16:56 AM] rockythechao: and to do so he created the Second Cousins
  323. [2/17/2016 10:19:13 AM] Wasabi: THE HEROES OF JUSTICE AND LIGHT
  324. [2/17/2016 10:20:19 AM] rockythechao: if kood's a space master, maybe he's aware of the Artist being at large but has never met him in person
  325. [2/17/2016 10:20:54 AM] Hoeloe: sort of like "wait... you all didn't know he was still around?"
  326. [2/17/2016 10:21:19 AM] Wasabi: He's all over the news!
  327. [2/17/2016 10:21:25 AM] Wasabi: turns on random tv
  328. [2/17/2016 10:21:27 AM] rockythechao: I mean, we have Demo and company plus the siblings
  329. [2/17/2016 10:21:51 AM] rockythechao: they know the Artist is their creator but haven't heard from him since they all broke free of their mind control
  330. [2/17/2016 10:22:50 AM] rockythechao: and only Kood knows there's a space master who calls himself The Artist
  331. [2/17/2016 10:23:32 AM] rockythechao: but either he doesn't connect the dots or he doesn't want to assume they're the same or something
  332. [2/17/2016 10:23:40 AM] Wasabi: The Artist formerly known as Pal
  333. [2/17/2016 10:24:30 AM] rockythechao: or, wait, he knows the Artists' former name was Pal but doesn't want to assume they're the same
  334. [2/17/2016 10:26:18 AM] Wasabi: Hahaha
  335. [2/17/2016 10:26:31 AM | Edited 10:26:45 AM] rockythechao: "I mean, how could this cute little ball of fluff be-"
  336. *everyone's frozen in magic bubbles as the dog rises into the air with his eyes glowing, ominous latin barking in the background, then a flash of gray and they're all gone*
  337. TO BE CONTINUED
  338. [2/17/2016 10:26:36 AM] Wasabi: "That would just be rude, and what if I'm wrong? How awkward"
  339. [2/17/2016 10:27:55 AM] rockythechao: The Artist's former name is Paul so everyone assumes he looks like a walrus, but he just dropped a letter and went incognito
  340. [2/17/2016 10:28:06 AM] Wasabi: Hahahhaa
  341. [2/17/2016 10:39:12 AM | Edited 10:40:26 AM] rockythechao: What if the reason the Artist is on the run is that he created the siblings in the first place, like enslavement is a key part of SMoS culture and creating new life is considered a crime/taboo
  342. [2/17/2016 10:40:13 AM] Hoeloe: eh sounds too complex for me
  343. [2/17/2016 10:40:35 AM] Hoeloe: i just imagine him having some master plan that having Demo & the krew wandering around is part of
  344. [2/17/2016 10:47:25 AM] Wasabi: Yeah same
  345.  
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  347.  
  348. [2/17/2016 12:56:25 PM] Mikkofier: what could The Artist's rival be called?
  349. [2/17/2016 12:57:04 PM] rockythechao: We could just call them The Rival
  350. [2/17/2016 12:57:07 PM] Mikkofier: The Editor
  351. [2/17/2016 12:57:18 PM] rockythechao: ooh, I like that
  352. [2/17/2016 12:58:09 PM] Mikkofier: The Author
  353. [2/17/2016 12:58:29 PM] rockythechao: The Publisher
  354. [2/17/2016 1:02:04 PM] Rednaxela: The Director
  355. [2/17/2016 1:02:18 PM] Mikkofier: The Writer
  356. [2/17/2016 1:20:39 PM] Maciej B. // Minnakht: The Producer
  357. [2/17/2016 1:32:43 PM] Romaji Amulo: The Lender
  358. [2/17/2016 3:51:34 PM] Hoeloe: The Buttmeister
  359. [2/17/2016 3:53:26 PM] Romaji Amulo: The Landlord
  360. [2/17/2016 3:56:48 PM] FrozenQuills: The OTHER ARTIST
  361. [2/17/2016 3:57:47 PM] Willhart: The Critic.
  362. [2/17/2016 3:59:03 PM | Edited 3:59:21 PM] Willhart: Though I actually like the longer words more, since they seem to work better with word artist.
  363. [2/17/2016 4:29:19 PM] Mikkofier: The Critic would be thematically appropriate
  364. [2/17/2016 4:55:42 PM] Horikawa Otane: The Butt
  365. [2/17/2016 4:55:53 PM] Hoeloe: [Wednesday, February 17, 2016 3:51 PM] Hoeloe:
  366.  
  367. <<< The Buttmeister
  368. [2/17/2016 4:56:26 PM] Willhart: The Butt would be thematically appropriate.
  369. [2/17/2016 4:59:31 PM] Romaji Amulo: would it though
  370. [2/17/2016 5:00:41 PM] Willhart: Am I mixing the artist to someone else.
  371. [2/17/2016 5:02:42 PM] Horikawa Otane: The Hoeloe
  372. [2/17/2016 5:03:08 PM] Hoeloe: (y)
  373. [2/17/2016 5:05:54 PM] rockythechao: The Horikawa
  374.  
  375. ...
  376.  
  377. [2/18/2016 6:42:10 PM | Edited 6:42:25 PM] buttythechao: so, an idea I got on the way home today:
  378.  
  379. "Well, [insert name of character here] , you may have the ultimate powers of [whatever], but we have the power of obnoxious platitudes !"
  380. "...W-what?"
  381. "Our burning determination will carry us through any challenge!"
  382. "No! Stop it!"
  383. "With the power of friendly acquaintances, we can accomplish anything!"
  384. "This abysmal writing hurts my soul!"
  385. "True love can conquer even time itself!"
  386. "Aaaaarrghh oh my god do you actually believe any of that nonsense you're spewing!?"
  387. [2/18/2016 6:50:17 PM] Hoeloe: heh
  388. [2/18/2016 6:58:01 PM] ❤ Pichu {Lily}: hahaha
  389. [2/18/2016 6:59:29 PM] Hoeloe: this should be Pal's dialogue
  390. [2/18/2016 7:18:53 PM] Wasabi: Hahahhaa
  391. [2/18/2016 7:19:22 PM] Wasabi: I think that should be ep 3
  392. [2/18/2016 7:32:26 PM] buttythechao: Ep. 3 is going to be the elders and second cousins, Ep. 4 will be the artist
  393. [2/18/2016 7:34:54 PM] Wasabi: Yeah
  394. [2/18/2016 7:35:08 PM] Wasabi: I kinda want pal to only say arg
  395. [2/18/2016 7:35:10 PM] Wasabi: Arf
  396. [2/18/2016 7:35:18 PM] Wasabi: And people just respond how they do to lassie
  397. [2/18/2016 7:35:52 PM] buttythechao: phenomenal cosmic powers, itty-bitty vocuabulary
  398. [2/18/2016 10:02:19 PM] Chaoxys _: I still want Pal's boss form (or at least on of them) to be a many muscular body, but iwth Pal's head on top
  399. [2/18/2016 10:20:37 PM] Horikawa Otane: nah make photoshop pal
  400. [2/18/2016 10:21:12 PM] buttythechao: http://i.imgur.com/Rxymnt5.png
  401. [2/18/2016 10:22:23 PM] Willhart: Cool.
  402. [2/18/2016 10:22:55 PM] buttythechao: It's an edit of a Cho Aniki boss
  403. [2/18/2016 10:23:43 PM] buttythechao: dagnabbit I just realized
  404. [2/18/2016 10:24:02 PM] buttythechao: http://vignette1.wikia.nocookie.net/animalcrossing/images/2/2d/K.K._Slider_in_WW_(1).png/revision/latest?cb=20140713132158
  405. [2/18/2016 10:25:10 PM] buttythechao: that's the head I should've modeled the big head sprite after
  406.  
  407. ...
  408.  
  409. [2/28/2016 7:00:58 PM] Slit08: ohh is it already known who the true final boss is?
  410. [2/28/2016 7:01:02 PM] Hoeloe: yeah
  411. [2/28/2016 7:01:10 PM] Slit08: the Artist?
  412. [2/28/2016 7:01:13 PM] Wasabi: But shhh it's a secret
  413. [2/28/2016 7:01:13 PM | Edited 7:01:19 PM] Hoeloe: no not yet
  414. [2/28/2016 7:01:22 PM] rockythechao: Not in this episode
  415. [2/28/2016 7:01:22 PM] Hoeloe: that's later
  416. [2/28/2016 7:01:30 PM] Wasabi: Nah not the artist
  417. [2/28/2016 7:01:36 PM] Slit08: I wonder what he will end up looking like :P
  418. [2/28/2016 7:01:42 PM] Slit08: the Artist from DT haha xD
  419. [2/28/2016 7:01:43 PM] Hoeloe: w8 is uncle pumpernickel, followed by Pumpernickel Unleashed
  420. [2/28/2016 7:01:48 PM] SnoruntPyro: hahaha do you know who the artist is, slit
  421. [2/28/2016 7:01:55 PM] rockythechao: Assuming SAJ ends up sticking to the original plans for ep. 3 and 4
  422. [2/28/2016 7:02:02 PM] Slit08: raocow? xD
  423. [2/28/2016 7:02:03 PM] rockythechao: if they'll even be called that
  424. [2/28/2016 7:02:09 PM] SnoruntPyro: speaking of sajewers where is he??
  425. [2/28/2016 7:02:14 PM] SnoruntPyro: he hasn't been here in a while iirc
  426. [2/28/2016 7:02:20 PM] rockythechao: not in this chat :D
  427. [2/28/2016 7:02:22 PM] Hoeloe: everyone seems to be generally agreeing that the Artist is someone we've already seen - not raocow
  428. [2/28/2016 7:02:22 PM] Wasabi: He's just disappeared for 2 weeks
  429. [2/28/2016 7:02:31 PM] Wasabi: Like he's been in and out
  430. [2/28/2016 7:02:36 PM] SnoruntPyro: it's weird because he's super active in the a2xt forums
  431. [2/28/2016 7:02:38 PM] Wasabi: Arf
  432. [2/28/2016 7:02:49 PM] Slit08: hmmm... seen in a2xt?
  433. [2/28/2016 7:02:53 PM] Hoeloe: in any case, I wish I could continue with a2xt now but it's midnight and I have work tomorrow
  434. [2/28/2016 7:02:58 PM] Hoeloe: yeah, seen in a2xt a lot
  435. [2/28/2016 7:03:03 PM] Wasabi: I think this chat moves to of fast for him to keep up with, which is fair
  436. [2/28/2016 7:03:03 PM] SnoruntPyro: aaw rip ;c
  437. [2/28/2016 7:03:23 PM] rockythechao: It's someone one of the main 5 doesn't like
  438. [2/28/2016 7:03:31 PM] Wasabi: Night loehoehoeloe
  439. [2/28/2016 7:03:37 PM] rockythechao: goodnugget hoeloe
  440. [2/28/2016 7:03:40 PM] Wasabi: But demo loves
  441. [2/28/2016 7:03:49 PM] Hoeloe: I really wish I had more time to do this stuff. I'm juggling a full time job, my own game project, an lp channel and a2xt
  442. [2/28/2016 7:03:55 PM] Slit08: oh, probably a Touhou thing :P
  443. [2/28/2016 7:03:56 PM] rockythechao: that was too obvious wasabi :P
  444. [2/28/2016 7:04:06 PM] Hoeloe: not a touhou thing
  445. [2/28/2016 7:04:07 PM] rockythechao: nope, it's not calleoca
  446. [2/28/2016 7:04:18 PM] Wasabi: Full time jobs really take up too much time
  447. [2/28/2016 7:04:25 PM] Slit08: calleoca not because she cannot create herself
  448. [2/28/2016 7:04:41 PM] rockythechao: Calleoca is canonically Rumia in ASMT
  449. [2/28/2016 7:04:43 PM] Hoeloe: i get like 3 hours a day to myself, and often that ends up being taken up by cooking, cleaning, various other jobs
  450. [2/28/2016 7:05:08 PM] Slit08: I think I'm too dumb right now... gotta have to think about it a bit mroe...
  451. [2/28/2016 7:05:11 PM] rockythechao: and the... I forget if it was Marisa or Alice she cosplayed as in ASMBXT
  452. [2/28/2016 7:05:43 PM] Hoeloe: ideally, i'd magically get like 10k subscribers on youtube and be able to make enough money to pay rent from my lp channel
  453. [2/28/2016 7:05:47 PM] Slit08: also Holoe if this oen screenshot was fromt eh world 3 town, let me say: Holy Shit man, this stuff looks amazing!!!!
  454. [2/28/2016 7:05:55 PM] rockythechao: Remember, a character that was introduced in A2XT that one of the main 5 loves and another hates
  455.  
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  457.  
  458. [8:59:15 AM] rockythechao: Would you guys say all the talk about Pal being the Artist is like how Darky and Dem were handling the plot?
  459. I'm thinking a post about it in the story thread is long overdue.
  460. [8:59:46 AM] Hoeloe: i wouldn't say it's the same, but it may be worth posting it in the story thread
  461. [9:05:14 AM] Wasabi: Yeah, it's also for something a year in the future
  462. [9:05:27 AM] Wasabi: I was just thinking about It being kind of a joke that could end up happening
  463. [9:06:47 AM] Wasabi: Ztarwuff seemed to have opinions though
  464. [9:07:04 AM] Hoeloe: i think it's worth keeping people not in this group in the loop
  465. [9:08:43 AM] Wasabi: Like I don't think it's super ironclad
  466. [9:08:47 AM] Wasabi: But it's a nice idea
  467. [9:09:19 AM | Edited 9:09:38 AM] rockythechao: I thought we had more about it in the thread already but this was the only mention I could find of it:
  468. http://talkhaus.raocow.com/viewtopic.php?f=36&t=13768&p=333234&hilit=artist#p333234
  469. [9:14:44 AM] Wasabi: Mm we don't have much, do we have the second cousins as the heroes thing there?
  470. [9:14:56 AM] rockythechao: mostl likely not
  471. [9:16:27 AM] rockythechao: iirc we've only crossposted stuff about the uncles and Ep. 2
  472. [9:18:12 AM] Wasabi: Yeah, which I mean is probably good cause people should be focussed?
  473. [9:18:26 AM] Wasabi: We shouldn't be deciding everything about ep 3 before ep 2 is even done
  474. [9:24:19 AM] rockythechao: yeah, like I agree that we shouldn't be deciding everything for Ep. 3 and 4 just yet, and maybe adding "and he captures everyone" when I brought it up in the general discussion thread was overdoing it
  475. [9:25:58 AM] rockythechao: crud, I don't have the full chat history
  476. [9:26:08 AM] Hoeloe: mm
  477. [9:26:12 AM] rockythechao: it only goes back to Nov. 26
  478. [9:26:32 AM] rockythechao: I might have the rest on my laptop
  479. [9:26:46 AM] Wasabi: Eh rocky it's okay
  480. [9:26:51 AM] Wasabi: I think everyone has the gist of it
  481. [9:27:04 AM] Wasabi: I agree with the cart before the horse analogy though
  482. [9:27:36 AM] Wasabi: I mean with this we've balanced it well
  483. [9:30:18 AM] rockythechao: oooh, got it to load the full chat history
  484. [9:30:28 AM] Wasabi: heck yeah!
  485. [9:30:32 AM] Wasabi: Also okay I need sleep
  486. [9:30:34 AM] Wasabi: Night peeps
  487. [9:30:46 AM] Hoeloe: i need to sleep too
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