Anon Game 1 Chief/Upsilon Rant Rebuttal

[quote="Upsilon"]Not only that, but in the exact same post you insult the judge's initial decision to not allow avatar changes and you ask me "What do I have to say for myself?"[/quote]
my typing style this game has been to alternate lowercase sentences with incorrect punctuation and (sometimes) spelling and sentences with proper capitalization. I'm doing this to obscure my identity.

[quote="Upsilon"]Not a simple, nice "Why are you accusing Epsilon?" or "What has been your reasoning this game Upsilon?"

No, immediately to the bad cop, "You did this crime, what do you have to say for yourself?! SPEAK INFIDEL!"

Then you get upset with me for not understanding your poorly written post.[/quote]
i dont see how adding a bit of levity to a post ([i]"What do you have to say for yourself?"[/i]) could be considered derisive. I'm sorry if it came across that way.

[quote="Upsilon"][quote="Zeta"]Voting Upsy-Daisy for voting Epsom Salt. unless we randomly hit on a wolf day 1 again im gonna go with them. Will switch to Epsom if we get close to a tie.[/quote]

Last I checked, our names were Epsilon and Upsilon, not "Upsy-Daisy" and "Epsom Salt." I apologize for skimming over a post that seemed like nonsense to me.

But even more so from there you accuse me once more of being evil due...due to "ignoring" a single post? How many people in day two (and even day one for
that matter) have said that they've ignored most of the posts due to it being day one and most of it sounding like nonsense? A good bit, thank you very much.[/quote]
now youre advocating that ignoring posts is alright? Gonna have to disagree with you on that one.

in hindsight i can see how that post was incredibly dumb. Given that we were still in the "joke accusation" phase of Day 1, I considered it a reasonable post. maybe we had moved on and i just didnt see that it was time to get serious. Note that I was gone the majority of yesterday and wasn't able to post during the more serious discussion that happened at the end of Day 1.

[quote="Upsilon"]If accusing Epsilon was wrong of me yesterday, then I should be just as wrong today. In other words, not only am I wrong, but two other players are wrong as
well (as Epsilon has three voters). So, Zeta, let's just burn everyone who votes for Epsilon too quickly because they are clearly evil![/quote]
so youre saying that, regardless if new information comes up that may make me think you're either good or some other role, i should ignore it and just go full speed ahead on lynching you day after day? You seem to be advocating ignoring new info and that changing your position on something is inherently bad.

you realize that im conflicted on your alignment, which is represented by being at the end of my list of suspicions, right

[quote="Upsilon"]BUT WAIT, NOW YOU'RE VOTING FOR EPSILON TOO! Well now we have our baddies guys. It's me, Zeta, and the other two Epsilon voters. Confirmed.[/quote]
I...changed my mind? is that not allowed now?

[quote="Upsilon"]Now, to move on to your "accusations" of the day, let me remind you something. Yesterday I was put on the chopping block because I had accused three different
people of being evil. I had four votes at one point, and it was very possible that I was going to die. Now that we have reached day two, you have gone and
accused not three, but six people of being suspicious/evil! And not only that, most of my accusations yesterday were of a joking nature. Epsilon and Omicron
were both simply because of the usernames and actually meant nothing. You, however, start the day by immediately looking for blood. You don't focus on a
person or two like a normal player would, but you instead pick a SINGLE POST from six different people and immediately claim that they are suspicious for them.[/quote]
Let me suggest to you that I'm trying to hide my identity in this anonymous game by not posting long posts with multiple quotes for reference. im also assuming that anyone who read my post actually read all of day 1 or at least from page 8 onwards seriously.

[quote="Upsilon"]Let's examine some of those, shall we?

[quote="Zeta"][quote="Gamma"]Cool, I was leaning towards either tau or lam yesterday! Glad to know one of them were bad. Thanks minion, you're doing a swell job. Keep up the good work, lol![/quote]
Saying that you were leaning towards one of two people and one of them happening to be evil does not make you seem more trustworthy. it just makes you wrong. And for that last part. trying to lead us away from the idea that you could be the minion?[/quote]

Wow, where to begin. So first off, it was obvious that there were two choices yesterday, Lambda and Tau. And yet all of a sudden you claim that anyone who thought BOTH of them were worthy lynch choices...are suspicious! Not only suspicious, but flat out wrong![/quote]
Actually, if you read what Gamma suggested on Day 1, it looks like they're covering their ass here by saying that they believed both X and Y could be evil, but (on Day 1) they voted for X. this makes it impossible to suggest that they could be evil based on the person they voted to lynch the previous day because they now look like they found both evil. Gamma never suggested that they found both evil yesterday yet suggested as much today. this is a basic analysis of this kind of play thats been used many, many times on this forum.

[quote="Upsilon"]So fun fact guys, if you think two people are evil, but only one turns out to be evil? YOU'RE WRONG! GET OUTTA TOWN!

Not only that, but that is quite hypocritical of you, don't you think? Gamma goes and accuses two people yesterday, yet because only one was evil he was wrong!

So let me do some calculations here....three wolves (One of which is dead), a minion, a possible 4th wolf due to the amnesiac, and a possible fifth evil member due to the agent. That leaves 4/5 living baddies MAXIMUM.

Now, if my memory serves me correctly, you accused six people today!

Wait.

Oh no.

YOU'RE WRONG!

Even if five of those six people are baddies, THAT MEANS ONE ISN'T A BADDIE

AKA YOU'RE WRONG! OH NO![/quote]
I feel like you're missing the point of going after multiple people. some people focus on person, some on the exact number of possible baddies. Others like to look at multiple people, regardless if the number is more than the amount of potential evil people or not. all are valid. If you find me tomorrow pulling the same thing that Gamma's doing, call me out on it. i really don't like the "i told you so"s you see on this forum, but what can you do

[quote="Upsilon"]Two main points in this. From the very start, Mu made it clear that they were simply "watching" Omega. They didn't say "Hey guys, it's time to lynch Omega,
they're evil because of these three points!" Instead, Mu simply pointed out a few things that stuck out to them. They even said that there wasn't much to go off
of, but it's obvious they're just trying to point out a few people that would otherwise be overlooked.[/quote]
True, and the word "watched" was one I should have paid more attention to. i still find the about-face from mu to be kind of weird now that they're vocally defending kappa, someone they attacked yesterday. BUT I find them about as suspicious as you, which is to say "hardly" or "just a bit" suspicious, not "Lynch these fucks [u]now[/u]."

[quote="Upsilon"]"None of these reasons sound good."

"None of them are lynch-worthy."

OH REALLY?[/quote]
did you want to enumerate the ways that these opinions were good enough to lynch someone or on the ways that i was wrong

[quote="Upsilon"]To cap it off, below is your list of "I ASSUME THESE PEOPLE ARE WOLVES"

[color=#FF0000]Beta[/color]
[color=#FF4000]Eta[/color]
[color=#FF4040]Gamma[/color]
[color=#FF8000]Kappa[/color]
[color=#FF8040]Mu[/color]
[color=#FFBF00]Upsilon[/color]

And let me point out, not a single time in your post did you even bring up Eta's name, you know, that guy who is second in your list? For someone who is second
most likely to be a wolf, you really gave...well no reason at all for them being second most likely!

And poor Kappa, exact same deal! You said nothing against them! at all and, in fact, you actually quoted something he said and agreed with them![/quote]
The only time my normal identity would come in handy...

as i had to get going for the day (not saying where for 'identity' reasons, though i doubt anyone can't guess who i am now), i didn't really have much time to post an in-depth analysis on each person. I thought that this info:

[quote="Zeta"][b]AGAINST LAMBDA:[/b]
[u]Beta
Eta[/u]
Gamma
[u]Kappa[/u]

[b]FOR KAPPA:[/b]
Omega
Mu
[u]Eta[/u][/quote]
should have been clear enough as to why I found Eta and Beta (and possibly Kappa; and Gamma) suspicious. they all suggested that voting for lambda was a bad idea. Not all of them can be evil. beta, eta, and gamma seemed to be most suspicious to me, while kappa, mu, and you seemed a bit suspicious. Beta's and Eta's behavior surrounding their votes, the way they were knocking down the Lambda vote, and the way that Eta suggested that Kappa would be a good lynch made me believe they were suspicious and that Kappa is in the clear...ish. there are few ways kappa could be evil, but im considering them more likely than the ways you seem evil to me, which is just "upsilon may or may not be the agent". That's it. i have literally nothing else on you. That's why you're at the bottom of that list. sorry i didnt clarify that further given the limited amount of time i had.

[quote="Upsilon"]So here we are, this post took way too long to make. Everything you have said has been very flimsy, accusing people for a single post they made or for no
reason at all really. You have been extremely flip this game, as if you're better than everyone else here. It's only day two, people make random posts in order to
get the game moving. You can't chop someone's head off simply due to the fact that[/quote]
ill assume you ended with something along the lines of "they want to look at someone for x" or "they posted one suspicious thing".

Now, let me summarize my response with two questions:

why are you so angry and defensive

Why do you think that I think you're the most evil out of all of the people I've posted evidence and accusations on so far?

[quote="Upsilon"]Boy, I get so feisty when I feel attacked xD

Zeta has just bugged me so much this game.[/quote]
u could just call me an asshole and get it over with.