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  1. Nerf vs Corvette.
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  3. Corvette wins.
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  5. Fei vs Wolfman.
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  7. Corv First Response.
  8.  
  9. * Fei is strong.
  10. * Fei can use the niko style to buff this.
  11.  
  12. * Fei is durable.
  13. * Fei can use the niko style to buff this
  14.  
  15. * Fei is skilled.
  16. * more skilled than wolf man, Ohma destorys 100 fighters, Fei is ten times more skilled than Ohma
  17.  
  18. * Fei is fast.
  19. * Niko style
  20.  
  21. Nerf First Response.
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  23. * wolf man has big claws, will kill him if he tries to tank/block 1 time.
  24. * I already firmly believe that Fei could parry these claws but not unscathed, Nerf must argue against Fei's proposed skill advantage.
  25.  
  26. * Wolf man is fast
  27. * He can fly 200mph. (what is this in real people terms)
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  29. * Kengan reactions bad, Kengan attacks slow. Fei does not scale to Kiryu
  30. * I beleive this for now, very easy to argue against
  31.  
  32. * Fei either bad or OOT
  33. * Just call him OOT lol, Fei is obviously good
  34.  
  35. * Wolfman fast actually??
  36.  
  37. * Fei dies to Wolfman at 30ft, because bad reactions and claws.
  38.  
  39. * Fei strength sucks, would die to rock. Fei has no collateral. wolfman kills Fei in 1 minute.
  40. * I do not believe that Fei would die to a rock with Waka's durability.
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  43. Corv Response 2.
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  45. * Nerf wrong about Kengan reactions.
  46. * Fallen Demon does impossible pronounce word which means his reaction times are better.
  47. * DD is better than Fallen Demon.
  48. * Fei is better than any other Kengan character. (Kuroki BTFO'd???)
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  50. * Nerf was wrong about Akoya's strikes, there's many characters faster than Akoya.
  51. * Fei > Ohma = 2x Ohma > Superhuman fighters > Statues.
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  53. * Fei is infact bad but Corvette stips it out.
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  55. * 200mph is a fake number (yeah I know, wish I knew what it was in real numbers)
  56. * Wolfman must engage Fei in Melee.
  57.  
  58. * One shot option does not exist, Wolfman's claws are 1 inch long and he has never drive by'd clawed someone.
  59.  
  60. * Wood scaling bad, Kengan scaling = above concrete = consistant.
  61.  
  62. Nerf R2.
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  64. * Wolfman will scan and then stall out Fei.
  65. * I dont necessarily believe this
  66.  
  67. * Wolfman's claws good.
  68. * wolfman when trying to kill will use his claws.
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  70. * Fei's anti-feats cannot be stipped out, as such Fei is bad.
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  72. * There still isn't a single Fei feat that isn't "faster than person with no speed feats" or "his Divine Devil is sort of an amp"
  73. * this is simply untrue. I believe that Fei is faster than waka based on scaling, and that DD is an amp thats faster than FD, who's faster than Kiryu who has objective feats.
  74.  
  75. * Literally 0 of the feats involving any sort of number have any relation to Fei or explanation for the scaling
  76. * this is untrue.
  77.  
  78. * This is just an attempt to make up speed by spamming unrelated feats and claiming Fei is faster with nothing to back it up
  79. * this is untrue.
  80.  
  81. * Wolfman > Reanimen = 25ms > Fei. This scaling seems valid but also very close to OOT.
  82.  
  83. * Wolf man has good mobility without the jetpack, the building anti-feat is not an anti-feat.
  84.  
  85. * Wolf man's jet pack is good
  86.  
  87. * Fei strength bad, he cant take out Waka quickly.
  88.  
  89. * When Waka guards against Fei's hits they do not move 200kg of flesh which is bad.
  90.  
  91. * Waka > Fei.
  92.  
  93. * Fei throwing Waka is not real.
  94.  
  95. Corv R3.
  96.  
  97. * Fei does kill people, these people are skiled. Fei > Long Min something something Cosmo > Akoya
  98. * this scaling is not the most clear it could be.
  99.  
  100. * Fei is faster an better.
  101.  
  102. * Wolf still hasnt proven drive-by clawing as a win condition.
  103.  
  104. * Mechamaid hinders claws.
  105.  
  106. * Overexerting Fei is a stupid idea.
  107.  
  108. * Akoya is fast, but no one comments on his speed, Fei is fast and everyone comments on his speed.
  109. * Waka Blocks Ohma, Ohma 4 movements in 140ms
  110.  
  111. * Wolfman Anti-Feats.
  112. * Darkwing slow but > Wolfman.
  113.  
  114. * Waka eats IronBreakers, Iron Breakers strong.
  115.  
  116. * Waka Dura > Waka strength + Ohma strength = Waka durable.
  117.  
  118. * Corv aware of piercing mechanics, doesnt really matter.
  119.  
  120. Nerf R3
  121.  
  122. * Wolfman has a mobility advantage, and his claws exist and are piercing.
  123.  
  124. * Reanimen =25ms, 3 reanimen > Invincible > Superspeed.
  125.  
  126. * Darkwing good??
  127.  
  128. * Darkwing > Invincible > Omniman
  129.  
  130. * Wolfman > werewolf
  131.  
  132. * Wolfman weak, has collar.
  133.  
  134. * Cosmo = Faster than Akoya so the whole scaling chain cannot hold up.
  135.  
  136. * the base premise is flawed, Akoya 75ms, everyone else slower than him.
  137.  
  138. * It's unarmed person vs sword and he's not getting tagged, how does that support Long Min being faster?
  139. * this is stupid, obviously a person with a knife would be faster in combat vs someone without a knife.
  140.  
  141. * Waka is being scaled to Ohma taking someone out while they are unconscious for 140 ms, a feat that by itself is not really relevant for the tier
  142. * yes it is.
  143.  
  144. * The fighter that loses to this technique also reacts to swimming swallow
  145.  
  146. * No, I don't see why I should even address a calc where you admit to be making up the numbers.
  147. * I firmly believe waka is at least half of akoya's speed.
  148. * Fei is obviously faster than Waka whos is at least 1/2 Akoya.
  149. * Fei is probably faster than Akoya.
  150.  
  151. * wolfman is willing to kill.
  152.  
  153. * Fei tries to flex.
  154. * this is directly contradicted by Fei's stipulations.
  155.  
  156. * Fei worse than Waka in Dura??
  157. * might be true, doesnt really matter, Waka > Tier in blunt dura.
  158.  
  159. Conclusion.
  160.  
  161. Corvette wins
  162.  
  163. This match up is primarily a contention of whether or not Kengan scaling exists and is real, I believe it is. Corvette has proven to me through scaling that Kengan in internally consistent and that Fei should scale above Akoya in Reaction times, and Fei should scale above Kiryu in movement and striking. Fei is very obviously more skilled than chapter 20 Ohma.
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  165. Fei is relatively durable, and Waka is very obviously the strongest physical fighter, Fei being able to take any physical strike from Waka is very good for the tier. Wolfman's claws matter but not to the extent that Nerf portrays. Wolfman attempting to use his claws allows a reaction + movement time from Fei which leads to him being hit. This leads to Fei landing a follow up every attack, which significantly hurt Wolfman.
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  168. ****
  169. ****
  170. ****
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  172. Omega Red vs Alucard.
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  174. Omega Red fully dominates this match. With Alucards proposed non-loss condition being to transform into bats, and Omega Red's win condition being to simply be around the bats seeing as they are 4 orders of magnitude smaller than a human. It seems fully obvious to me who wins. Corvette has fully entertained the idea that if his opponents character turns into bats than his character will handedly win, and his opponents character will turn into bats seeing as thats his only way not to be grappled to death.
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  176. I believe this is true even if Alucard simply chooses not to transform, Omega red is very capable of reaction and coil movement before Alucard is capable of significant movement, and as such will simply be swallowed up by Omega Red's coils with their surperior speed, reach, and offensive capabilites.
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  178. Alucard has almost no recourse here. Corvette wins.
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  181. If any debater wants my thoughts on Mu-Sang vs Nezuko im very willing to give it, but not right now.
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