MASTER-88 posting history part 1

Best 100% time: 1.00.58 Best 100% single segment: 1.03.06 Best 100% hard mode: 1.09.27
Best time low-% 9% normal: 0.43.40 Best time low-% hard mode 10%: 0.57.14
Best time: 0.31.18 Best time single segment: 0.34.56 Best time hard mode. 0.37.24
My speedrun Metroid zero mission is now Normal and Hard PAL-versio
BEST TIME: 0.54  (10% item 17-segment) BEST TIME SINGLE SEGMENT: 1.00 (18% item) BEST TIME 1%: 0.59 (1% item 19-20 segment) BEST TIME 100%: 1.22
My best time is europa Pal versio
This video look very good. Im play same route hard mode 10% sub hour, but im never beat ajbolt89 new record. Im like very much Tourian segment. ajbolt89 beat tourian about 10 minutes this is really fast time beat hardest segment in 10% hard mode. Im use different strategy tourian super missile route. Im save every metroid room and try get multiple super missile per- room.
All Metroid fusion bosses is easy beat, but Mecha spider and Nightmare is real pain 1% speedrun.
BRAVO! Really good job. Im watching you video, this is virtually impossible beat.
Hard mode 10% run is too hard beat fast, most segment take too much Lucky, ajbolt89 hardmode low-% time is really mighty.
My 9% run is over two minute better with ajbolt89 hard mode super missile route, and over 6 minute better with ajbolt89 previous 4 missile route.  9% run have much faster Tourian segment. I don,t take any video or evidence my speedrun.
Yea 9% run is my one favorite speedrun type. Im maybe try someday 9% SS run but im need good strategy Robot ridley battle. Irritating claw, missile, laser combo kill each hits.
Hmm? Im say segment or save anyway. 17-segment is 16 save. Ok im speak english pretty worst.
9% single segments like crazy run, I try this run couple times, but most part take too much lucky. Yesterday im died Mother brain battle because im falling acid pool. Mother brain is pretty hard but Mecha ridley is too hard beat without death. Im really hate last escape after Mecha ridley, this escape cause lot horror with 9 ss run.
Metroid 2002:sessa ei näy olevan viellä suomalaista foorumia joten teen nyt tänne tälläisen. Eli kaikki jotka nyt taitavat suomen kieltä niin laittakaa tänne metroidiin koskevia kysymyksiä ja ideoita.
6=Metroid orginal Metroid is nice metroid game but little bit more boring
5=Metroid prime 2 echoes Good game but darkworld is irritating place and sequence breaks is too hard with me
4=Super metroid Difficult control is only cons, but im like this game too much.
3=Metroid prime Cool game, but too hard secret world and sequence break
2=Metroid fusion Im like 1% game boss fights. But im hate long subprogram after everysingle sector.
1=Metroid zero mission Best metroid game. Lot different speedrun route, pretty easy sequence breaks and mighty low-% run
My Metroid game topic
Hmm olet ensimmäinen suomea puhuva henkilö minun lisäksi hyvä.
No minä yritän saada ainakin selvää. Tuskin itse puhun parempaa englantia, mutta tärkeintähän on se että tekstistä saa selvää. Harjoitus ja kokemus tekevät mestarin. Harjoittele vielä niin kohta puhut jo sujuvaa suomea.
My opinion 31.XX is very good time. Im really need patience if im try beat game sub 31. multi segment pure speedrun is more harder with low-% run because if you play low-% run you don,t need perfect segment.
Very weird challenge. Im completed 15 missile run only 1 missile expansion (1% item).  Minimal possible more missile is 15. You need use lot charge beam 1% speedrun.
Now I try beat game 4-missile route and im try beat game sub 54 minutes. I say maybe 49-50 minutes but Tourian is incredible difficult beat fast. I watching Tourian segment many time and I trying find good save spot with metroid.
My time is now after beat Ridley savepoint is 12.12. This is pretty good.  I HATE Tourian segment very much, last time this segment took 15 minutes in Super missile route but my first time 4-missile route this part  took 28-minutes game time.
Super missile route make most part slower and harder beat, but Tourian is much faster with super missile route.
Im starting working 10% hard mode speedrun today. Im try improve my previous time. Im use now 4-missile route, my previous record is completed super missile route.
Terve kerrankin aito suomalainen täällä. Itse olen vielä melko uusi täällä ja puhun ehkäpä keskivertoa huonompaa englantia, joten en siksi postaa aivan joka kysymykseen. Oletkos kova Metroid fani? Itselläni on pakko mielle gba metroideihin.
many people say Magmoor run without varia suit is possible, but it is veryhard. I not know because im not trying this. You need couple energy tanks if you try magmoor run.
Kridly im ask you question hard mode 100% runs: pick up early varia suit in Brinstar? Im dont get Early varia suit 100% normal mode but im take early varia suit 100% hard mode beacause im don,t sure have enought energy in Norfair room,s Sorry my english skill are rusty try understand me.
EDIT 3:  Im finally beat aful Tourian both metroid segment, my time is now 30.20, I don,t know how fast this segment are ajbolt89 previous 4-missiile run. my best time is 9% normal are 43 minutes and after Tourian metroid my time is 9% normal 24.14. Im losing about six minutes Tourian Metroid segment in hard mode. If im play very fast maybe possible beat game 50-51 minutes. Im really need take lot risk Mother brain battle but Mother brain is really hard beat fast, my strategy is different when aj strategy, my strategy make boss easier beat but im think it is maybe little bit more slower when ajbolt strategy. Im hope good luck now .
EDIT 2: First metroid part is complete. My time is now 27.2?, Metroid part is maybe little bit more faster when ajbolt89 previous run. This part took about 2-hours huh!
EDIT: Now my time Tourian entrance is 21.51 it is very good time only 50-second slower with world record time. But Tourian is superior hardest segment in 10% hard. Im really need lucky now.
My previous run is pretty slow because im use Super missile route, many part is more slower only two missile and super missile item drop very rarery , but now im use 4-missile route. I don,t know are this good idea because Tourian take much longer without super missile.
First segment is very difficult 10% hard mode run. it is much harder when 9% normal run. Im play First segment different strategy in 10% hard. Im use savepoint after Irritating worm battle and im get missile first geemer enemy, because two missile make most faster beat two tentacle/hive. Im don,t get varia suit Brinstar because this item is unnecesarry this game. save 1: 1.38 after worm battle save 2: 6.34 norfair after power grip save 3: 10.11 before Ridley save 4: 12.12 after Ridley
En muuten tiedä tuosta Metroid prime huntersista viellä että onko se tullut. Itsekkään en ole muuten pelanut Metroid 2 return of samusia koska en ole sitä peliä mistään löytänyt . aikoinaan yritin kyllä etsiä sitä mutta ei tärpännyt. Nes Metroidin sain pelattua läpi vasta Metroid primen mukana. Olen itsekkin kaikki muut Metroidit läpäissyt
Japanese hard mode 1% game are very interesting. Annoying I don,t have japanese versio.
I am very tired and satisfied now . This time is really good, not world record but really really good time. Because 10% hard mode run is aful hard. Im working three day and most multiple hours. This run is lot harder when 9% normal.
My time is now 10% hard mode: 0.51.25 4-missile route 18-segment 17-save Pal versio (Maybe possible beat 9%)
:D  Im finally improve my 10% hard mode
Why you don,t skip Acid worm battle? this boss is easy skip segmented run, but huge risk skip SS run.
30.06 without Acid worm skip. This is really good time because my single segment time is 34.56 with acid worm route.
Im play 22% run, but under water dash jump is too hard for me, Im try under water dash jump million time and couple days but this sequence break is too hard for me.
Silent Echo try 22% single segment run Im say this is very interesting/impossible run.
Im say 22% ss run is more cooler when orginal metroid prime 22% ss run because Metroid prime 2 echoes most bosses is more harder and longer when orginal prime bosses. Im say Quadraxis looking impossible fight 22% game. Boost guardian take over hour my 22% run, because i am unlucky this fight. just now I have huge problem Under water area because this under water dash is  impossible trick for me. Im say you really need lucky if you try and beat 22% ss run. Some future im hoping see 22%ss video in sda.
:P Good test run Trancience. only 4 half minutes slower when my best 9% run. You are over 3-minutes faster when my hard mode 10% run. Trancience! try now beat my 9% time. You have more skill. im say this game is easily possible beat sub 43 but you need lucky Tourian and bosses. My 9% time is very good but not perfect.
Im say lot part looking very cool 22% ss run. Irritating Boost guardian and Quadraxis take lucky because you need enought energy refill both boss battles. Emperor Ing is really long battle and take time about 30 minutes. This run took about 3-hours total time.  You must need lucky every single seconds because dark air eat you energypoint and you need enought refill.  GOOD LUCK!
If you beat 22% single segment run. Im say this is maybe one coolest run in Metroid game history. You died before jump guardian: try again Silent echo.
Im not speak good english.
Im play Europa Pal versio. Possible versio difference: 1=You need longer corridor speedbooster dash thats you can,t make superjump. This make lot part more harder. 2=doors open slower.
Maybe next week im try beat really speedrun. Im try beat game about 50 minutes.
1= im not pickup early super missile. 2= im missing about 5-time hard jumping kraid lair/eastbrinstar without hi-jump boots. 3=im forget wave beam. Im collect wavebeam later. 4=Very hard dash jump over water pits before Wrecked ship causing lot problem with me. Im losing maybe 1-2 minutes important time.  5=im forgot power Bomb refill. Im losing about 1-2minutes. 6=all boss battles looking horrible my test run. 7=im use save point most time and make lot horrible mistake
Im play my first test run this game. My time is really suck 1.14   Ok this not really speedrun because im make lot mistake in the game.
100% Metroid fusion= 1.22 Metroid zero mission= 1.00.58 & hard mode 1.09.27 Metroid Prime= about 8.?? hours Metroid prime 2 echoes= about 12.?? hours
Low-% Metroid fusion= 0.59 Metroid zero mission= 0.43 & hard mode= 0.51
Any-% Metroid=N/A Metroid 2= N/A Super Metroid=1.14 Metroid Fusion= 0.54 Metroid zero mission= 0.31.18 Metroid Prime= N/A Prime 2 echoes= N/A
My time,s
EDIT: Yes im try someday this quick charge trick and next time im try pickup early super missile.
Doors open slower and screw attack skip is harder with pal-versio. I don,t cant use speedbooster because Im take hit the door and it stop my dash. Im need use all 5 Power pombs cracked pillars because speed boost super jump is impossible makes this place. My strategies is harder and slower.
Im watching Smokey,s run. Smokey use most impossible trick. He jump fast speed booster super jump over water pits before Wrecked ship. Im say you need longer corridor with Pal versio. Im use regular dashjump with Pal versio and this trick is harder.
Im don,t play good time 3d metroid games because everysingle sequence break causing lot problem with me.[/quote]
:) Thanks guy! Yes my Zero mission runs is good because I play Metroid zero mission very much. Im really specialed my low-% runs 9% normal and 10% hard and of course Metroid fusion 1% run is fun and hard speedrun. Of course im like zero mission all speedrun type (100%, any-% and singlesegment runs)
Next big boss is Quadraxis :x Im say this boss looking extreme difficult in 22% game. Im think never beat this boss because he really look impossible fight But anyway.   way to go Sanctuary fortress.
Ok this not really speedrun because all sequence break causing lot trouble. Im not trying underwater dash and im not skip Alphablogg and I am choosing wrong way couple times.
Im beat Chykka fight my 22% run. This not causing trouble with me because im died only one time.
Aika hyvä jos olet vahingossa skipannut Alphablogin. Itse kun en onnistu siinä edes tarkotuksella vaikka kuinka yritin.
I don,t know how hard Quadraxis battle is, but im watching kip video and Quadraxis looked really difficults battle.
:D Good work Rekameohs. Are you really beat 22% single segment run? You time 2.56 not worst time because Kip records is hard mode 3.37.
EDIT: If Kip time is worst why anybody people here metroid2002. never beat him hardmode 22% time? I know hardmode 22% looking hard because Boost guardian and Quadraxis. But im think it is easier when 22% normal ss run.
Yeah but 22% 2-segment run is really crazy. about same thing when single segment run. Im say, if you are really beat 22% 2-segment (only one save). it is really good work.   Try beat next time single segment run heh heh.
Tell me best possible strategy Quadraxis battle. :?
Just im died after 5-seconds but boss took about 12-minutes. He really was impossible for me.
Im trying Quadraxis my 22% game, but im died after 5-seconds. Quadraxis is superior hardest boss in the game .
Im use super missiles first form but i not never beat first form
22% game is not problem but this battle is only super hard boss this game. Im say he is lot harder when Boost guardian.
Yeah im watching djgrenola, Kip low-% run and silent echos any-% run video(3-e-tanks without dark suit looking very cool) but this not help me. Because Quadraxis kill couple hits and he don,t give enought energy refill for me.
Thanks! Im try light beam strategy next time. Kip use super missile Quadraxis legs.
Second form: Im don,t use screw attack with antenna because this trick is too hard for me. Im use power beam rapid fire and super missile his antenna. Second form is maybe lot easier if im have enought light beam ammo but all light beam losing him first form. I don,t know how effective is dark beam because boss don,t give light beam ammo and regular power beam rapid fire is uneffective.
Im finally beat Quadraxis first form my 22% game . Thanks light beam strategy.  But second form is real trouble without light ammo because Boss don,t give light beam ammo and this is trouble becasuse im losing all light ammo Quadraxis first form.
Thanks! im try this strategy next time. Yeah first form is extreme hard im need about 20-30 trying this form. I know im really need lucky because all Quadraxis 3-forms looking very hard to beat.
After 9% normal im play 10% hard mode just same route when my 9% normal. my 10% hard time is 51.25. This time is one coolest run ever by me. Im beat kraid battle faster 10% hard mode run, but im losing lot time Tourian metroid segment.
Im say my best time 9% normal is good time 43.40. Im beat extreme fast robot ridley battle and im take lot risk last escape with Chozodia. Mother brain is pretty good battle but not perfect and im missing couple missile refill with Tourian.
Im say ajbolt89 10% hard mode run is extreme good. He beat game only two minutes slower with my best 9% normal. Kraid is slower battle 9% normal because he throwing slower sickle. Barrier segment is slower becasue one super missile make barrier segment much more faster beat.
I know this is not good time but someday im try improve this run.
cons 1=im don,t use mother brain barrier trick 2=im don,t use quick charge trick (maybe impossible europa versio) 3=im don,t use fast super missile strategy with Kraid battle. 4=im missing couple speedtrick 5=im use save point many times
pros 1=im get early super missile 2=im use wave beam strategy phantoon battle 3=im use Smokey,s wr route
:D My time is now 1.01. This is 13 minutes faster when my previous time.
Congratulations guy.
Why you get varia suit? early varia suit is not good idea any-% run . Yeah many people skipped charge beam but my opinions this not good idea because spider segment in ridley lair is possible beat little bit more faster and charge beam makes many place easier beat but anyway.
Yeah now im understand you. You use different route. Im use same route with Transience but my single-segment run im use Acid worm route because acid worm skip is huge risk with single segment run. Im use my segmented 26%-route and single segment 32% route.
No 100%. My time is any-% run   Heh this not good time it is 6-minutes slower when Red scarlet wr 100% run.
But anyway 8-) . Next boss is Emperor ing.
:P Im finally beat Quadraxis my 22% game. This boss took about week and many many many tries. Thanks Rekameohs good light beam strategy and easy screw attack with antenna. I am very satisfied just now.
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EDIT: Yeah Emperor ing is Really hard my 22% normal game. Im trying couple times but im not beat him yet. Boss took about 30- 70-energy point per hit aargh.
Good work Silent echo . I am just inside sky temple my 22% game. How hard emperor ing is 22% normal run? My opinion Emperor ing not looking very hard kip 22% hard mode run. But I don,t know, maybe boss is incredible hard.
1 All sequence break and secret worlds and world record runs in sda looking very cool and many run is almost impossible beat 2 My Gba Metroid low-% run is good for me 3 Im Beat Quadraxis my 22% game. Not bad because im have really lucky this fight.
Maybe coolest thing.
Yes im beat Quadraxis. Im died Emperor ing third form because boss use jump attack with me and took about 50-energy point my energy metter. Emperor ing looking pretty easy but feeling very hard because this battle is really long. If im beat him my clear time is about 6 hours. Yes im need patience and luck because all three form feeling very hard beat. Im watching djgrenola and Kip video and im try just same strategy
Hey does that mean that you beat Quadraxis? If so congrats! Emperor Ing is hard, I'm guessing that you're having trouble with the third form? Just make sure to refill everything in the second form and don't waste ammo. Whenever you run low however, refill using the nightbarbs and white things. Other than the screw attack strategy, there is sadly no real strategy for beating him, it's mostly luck. Don't worry though, after him, DS is a wimp
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Im watching djgrenola video and third form really looking cool because dj have only 1-energy point end part this fight. Im really hate this fight because first form is long because im missing many round when I missing many super missile. My opinion is very hard shooting super missile in Emperor ing core. Second form took lucky because it is very hard without power Bombs and Im have only 2-power bomb max. Yes third form is crazy but djgrenola and kip video help me.
You play 18% run? My opinion low-% is 20-22%. Im play 22% because im don,t can use secret worlds.
Early super missile without mock ball trick. I know this item is virtually impossible get, if you don,t use mock ball trick. Im say you need extreme lucky and many tries.
Sorry im not speak good english.
Strategy feeling fast and cool because im not need annhilator beam and missiles.
Emperor ing third form is possible beat screw attack. Im practice this strategy my 100% file and im losing only 3-energy tanks. Screw attack strategy losing huge amount damage with Emperor ing but I not sure are this good idea my 22% game.
Heh im working my 22% run about 2-3-months
Im use Screw attack strategy with Emperor ing and this strategy help me really much. Dark samus causing lot problem for me but im finally beat this game. :)
:D My Low-% 22% item total time=5.50
Ok my English skill not very good but try understand my post.
Emperor ing and Dark samus took only 7-8 minutes total time for me. Djgrenola use anhilator strategy and this strategy took much more time about 14-15 minutes.
My 22% run before Emperor ing 5.42-5.43 clear time 5.50
This strategy is very good speedruns and low-% game.
Emperor ing third form is possible beat only one hit if you use screw attack strategy.
:) Maybe someday??? but just now i am very satisfied and tired man. This run took lot time and many days.
Im say Silent Echos any-% time is possible beat about  1.41-1.42 if he use Screw attack strategy last boss.
Yeah my low-% run Emperor ing & dark samus battle is only two minutes slower with Silent echo perfect any-% run last battle. Im say im missing 1-minutes Emperor ing first form and im missing 1-2 minutes Emperor ing third form. Im say both last boss is possible beat about 4-minutes. I don,t sure 3 minutes but anyway.
My low-% 22% both boss took: 7-minutes (im take lot mistake)
Yeah only one hit. Silent Echos any-% 1.43 time both boss took: 5-minutes (battle looking perfect but he use annhilator strategy.
DS Castlevania dawn of sorrow : 1.24.14 Soma (Regular route)
Metroid zero mission Best time: 0.31.18 Best SS time: 0.34.56 Best Hard mode: 0.37.24 Best 9% normal: 0.43.40 Best 10% Hard: 0.51.25 Best 100% normal: 1.00.58 Best 100% normal SS: 1.03.06 Best 100% Hard mode: 1.09.27
Metroid fusion Best time: 0.54 Best SS time: 1.00 Best 1% time: 0.59 Best 100% time: 1.22
Megaman zero 2 Best time: 0.39.56 Best hard mode: 1.00.40
Best boss rush soma: 1.25.38 Best boss rush julius: 4.52.53 (This is pretty worst)
Castlevania aria of sorrow Best time: 0.44.31 (Without Claim solasis) Best time hard mode: 0.48.43 (Claim solasis route) Best julius all boss hard mode: 0.23.33
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My Full gba and Ds speedrun list
I know this not very good time because it is about 6-minutes slower when my best 100% normal time, but anyway.
My new record 100% hard mode= 1.06.51
Im say this trick help lot Dr trence 18% run but I don,t can explain this better. Sorry.
Use screw attack under him when boss make jump attack. If you have enought lucky so boss died. Im use annhilator beam one rounds and second round im use screw attack and screw attack kill Emperor ing only one hit. Im losing only 30-beam ammo last boss my 22% game because fast screw attack strategy help me really much.
Im say emperor ing screw attack trick is pretty easy trick but im say you need lucky. This trick is difficult explain because im speak worst english.
Hmm? I don,t know it is Emperor ing possible beat only one hit us-versio Because Im use Europa Pal versio but anyway.
Maybe next time Im try beat 100% normal sub hour. But im need improve 59-seconds my 100% best time.
My 100% hard time is not perfect because im make many little mistake.  Im say 100% hard is easily possible beat about 1.04-1.03.
Thanks! My 100% hardmode time is not world record time. Wr time 100% hard mode=Kridly 0.58.59. Huh!
Use speed booster. Jump super jump over acid pool.
Im need improve more 7-seconds.
EDIT: Im improved three last segments but im skipped one savepoint. My time is now: 0.59.06
Im use savepoint 15-times and my run is Pal versio.
This is pretty good time but maybe morning or someday im try improve my time sub 59. Second last segment looking horrible my run and im missed about 6-seconds Mecha ridley battle and escape.  Sub 59 time is easily possible beat but just now I am pretty satisfied my run.
My 100% normal new record is: 0.59.19 (finally sub hour)
EDIT: hups! I am really sorry double post. Im forget delete my previous post. SORRY!
My opinion this is extreme good time. And my run is Pal versio.
Last three segment causing lot problem with me, but anyway.  8-) Im play perfect Chozodia and extreme perfect Chozo guardian battle. Last escape is extreme good (4.00 time left) but im missing about 1-2 seconds black pirate battles.
Yeah! and this is true. I am very satisfied and tired man just now, because this run took lot time. My time is nearly perfect. Im use save point 14-time. All segment took long time.
My new record 100% normal= 0.58.54 (finally sub 59) Im improving my last three segment and im beat game finally sub 59
Thanks! :D  I don,t beat my new run in one day because im copy my save file yesterday and  play three last segment today. This is same run when my 59.19 but im improve three last segment.
TOP POWER PLAYER LIST HARD: 1 Ajbolt89: 2.19 2 MASTER-88: 2.34 3 Trancience: 6.35 (-6-hours)
TOP POWER PLAYER LIST NORMAL: 1 Trancience:  2.10 2 MASTER-88: 2.12 3 JaggerG: 5.11 ? (-3 hours)
I speak worst english but im hope somebody people understand me.
RULES: 1: No emulator/ code breaker time 2: Your must be speak true (don,t lie or post fake time) 3: if you don,t beat some run, your time is N/A= (+3 hour total time.)
Any-%: 0.37 Low-%: 0.51 100%: 1.06 Total time: 2.34
Hard mode total time
Any-%: 0.31 Low-%: 0.43 100%: 0.58 Total time: 2.12
Normal mode total time
:D My total time is any, 100 and Low-% ( low-%= 9-% normal and 10% hard)
Thanks Kridly! Ok my time is nearly perfect but is very long way beat world record time, because Dragondarch time is perfect single segment run and my time is nearly perfect segmented run. This run took 4-days (longest speedrun ever with me) Heh! my 100% new records took longer time when my 10% hard mode best records.
EDIT: watching rules my previous post.
Yeah Im understand. Low-% is maybe hardest speedrun type in Metroid zero mission. I don,t sure how many people here metroid2002 beat game 10% hard mode but anyway. Wait minutes im tell rules my previous posts.
Extreme good time! you beat my normal times 2-minutes. Low-% is only one minutes slower when my normal time but anyway You beat my total time two minutes faster when me.. CONGRATS! EXTREME GOOD WORK because my all times is pretty maximal. Wait for minutes im update your times power player list
0.52 100%???????   Im say this is fake time. WR=1.13 Maybe possible beat game 1.10.
I know im speak bad english.
But anyway Im need new sequence break and speedtrick because im try make new speed run this game.
Last time im use claim solasis route and im use devil soul, devil soul make most boss much faster beat. I don,t know it is good idea use claim solasis route but Abadon is very hard beat without claim solasis.  Bad company boss: im use ukoback soul because this soul is pretty effective.
Im need sequence break this game because someday im try new speedrun. Maybe someday im try improve my old time because my old time is pretty worst (1.24.14) . I try beat this game sub hour but im need sequence breaks.
Maybe someday im try beat 9% SS run   But I think it is too hard for me.
Im losing time: 1: I get early varia suit ( tourian is huge risk without varia suit) about 2-3 minutes 2: I get early screw attack (easier chozodia) about 1-2 minutes 3: I don,t skip acid worm (this trick is huge risk SS-run) 2-minutes 4: Hard mode SS-run took lot more time because it is much longer and harder when normal mode SS run. Im need multiple missile expansion and tourian took lot more time with hardmode. I have 40-missiles 6-super missiles and 449 E-point. Im take lot mistake chozo boss (im missed 3-4 shots). But anyway my opinion this is good run because this is my first hard mode SS-run.
Im beat hard mode single segment run and my new record is 0.46.26 pretty good time only 9-minutes slover when my hard mode segmented run. COLLECTING ITEMS=46%
Heh! 22% game?
Im starting run speedrun about 9-months ago.
My name is MASTER-88 and im speak pretty bad english. Im speedrunning 2d metroid games and 2d castlevania games. I have really good records Metroid zero missions and Fusion (maybe Finland records but not WR, yet).
Im don,t like Quadraxis in 22% game because he really was hard and irritating. This boss took about one week my 22% game until finally beat him. My favorite boss in 22% is maybe Chykka or Emperor ing. Both bosses are pretty hard but not too very hard. Emperor ing is VEEERRRYYY MUUUCHHH easier if you use screw attack strategy.
Don,t try dodge boss attack with L-lock because this is kip strategy and my opinion this is harder strategy. Chykka not causing problem my 22% game im died only one time. Chykka is pretty long battle and this is only problem for me.
Chykka adult is pretty easy boss, Chykka is not very hard boss in 22% game. Don,t use kip strategy because kip strategy is really hard. Im use my own strategy and Chykka adult are pretty easy. Destroy boss wings, dark beam rapid fire and second phase: dark chykka is easy beat if you use light beam charge.
X-TRAX or somebody: would you like my strategy and route? Im speak bad english
Im use Valkyrie soul and im buy lot mind up and couple potions because Bat company and paranoia is impossible without potions.
Segment 1: im get axe armor soul Segment 2: im get axe weapon Segment 3: Im kill Balore Segment 4: Im get Magic seal 2 and aktive teleport in garden of madness Segment 5: Dark Chapel (Valkyrie soul +Witch soul Segment 6: Dmitri: im use witch soul and Malphas are easy kill Axe armor soul Segment 7: Im kill Dario segment 8: Im get Devil soul and pick up Cutlas Segemnt 9: Im collect Magic seal 3 and im kill Puppet master Segment 10: Im telport Dark chapel and im going Subterran hell Segment 11: Im kill Rahab Segment 12: Im teleport Dark chapel again Segemnt 13: Im going Condemened tower Segment 14: Im kill Gergoth Segment 15: Im aktive teleport in Condomened tower and im going Cursed clock tower Segment 16:Im play Cursed clock tower and im get Magic seal 4 Segment 17: Im beat Zephyr and im aktive teleport. Im going Subterran hell again and im going Sliced ruins Segment 18: Im kill Bat company Segment 19: Im going Cursed clock tower and im find good way Pinnacle. Im get succubus soul and im beat Paranoia. Paranoia 1 is possible skip??? I don,t know but im skip all pillar with succubus glitch Segemnt 20: Pinnacle, durandal and Pinnacle shortcuts +Aguni and Magic seal 5 Segment 21: Final guard soul Segemnt 22: Alastor Soul Segemnt 23: Lilith soul +Garden of madness Segment 24: Im teleport Condomened tower and im get Draghinazzo soul. Im going Mine of judgment im skip Death and im going Abyss Segment 25: Im play Abyss half way puppet master soul is good in Abyss Segment 26: Im skip Abadon and im get Black panther soul. Im teleport lost village and im get Claim solasis here. Segment 27: Menace Battle
Im running first test run this game new game+ mode. This is practice run and im try this route my new real speedrun
Thanks X-tra many new route this game.
Silent echo you are Metroid prime 2 echos master. But im don,t undestand why you don,t skip Grapple beam? If you are skip grapple beam this is maybe new world record time. 1.49-without grapple beam skip This is extreme good works
What are Backdash special attack? Im make boss skip when im use succubus glitch. My opinion Gergoth and Rahab is impossible skip because you don,t have succubus soul. My opinoin you need succubus soul.
Idon,t know how hard geo gore trick are, but my opinion hardest trick in 3d metroid history is sunchamber secret world. Bomb jump not causing problem, but last un-morph in ledge is EXTREME HARD TRICK. I don,t never beat 22-23% game because this trick is impossible by me.
Hey guy try next time pick up all expansion first time, Im say you beat game easily sub 1.20 if you try pick up everysingle expansion first time. GOOD LUCK GUY HEH! My english is bad.
Good work!. I know how hard 100% game are. Im beat 100% run sub hour (0.58) but Im use Dragondarch route. My best 100 % SS is 1.03 im take lot mistake.
Im hope see someday sub 1.40 minutes video.
1.49 is extreme good time without grapple beam skip. Im say it is extreme hard but possible beat game sub 1.40 if you use screw attack strategy with last boss and skip grapple beam.
Im understand. Every single 3d metroid sequence break is too hard for me but anyway. Silent echos is VEERRYYY much better player when me!
EDIT 2: Ok im try beat game without claim solasis, because Gergoth took too much time. Im try use Bjuh+devil soul with last boss. Idon,t know it is Valkyrie soul good idea with Bat company battle. Hardest part my run is Bat company, Paranoia and Menace battles. Menace is really difficult beat because im have Bjuh axe, about 20-level up and devil soul.
EDIT: Hups! Im need Gergoth soul because im need pick up Claim solasis. Last boss is really long and extreme hard if you don,t have Claim solasis.
Next im try find good weapons. Im use Claimsolasis +devil soul with last boss. My last run im use axe weapons and im get Claim solasis
Im run my second test run and im skip: Puppet master, Gergoth, Rahab, magic seal 3, little Paranoia Death, Abadon. This route is really fast.
Thanks now im understand. Yeah this working very well
This not speedrun because my time is suck. This is my second test run because im try someday beat 9%SS-run.
:) 15% Single segment normal mode: time 0.42.50
But anyway im need practice and extreme lucky, maybe someday future im try beat 9% single segment run, but not yet.
9% single segment maybe not impossible beat because only big problem is Robot ridley. I not never beat robot ridley battle without deaths in 9% game. Low-% runs not cause problem with me. I am complete 10% hard mode run 4-times 8-)  and 9% run is about 65% easier beat than 10% hard mode.
15% single segment run is pretty easy beat. I think, this game is easily beat 12-13% single segment.  9% single segment looking insanely beat. I don,t know how many people here metroid2002 beat 9%SS run. Transience (any-% WR holder) told me he died chozodia escape.
My 15%SS-run heh! not speedrun. I never speedrunning 15% game because low-% is 9% normal and 10% hard. this is my first 15% game ever and im play this run with single-segment. This time is only 50-seconds faster than my best 9% segmented run.
But anyway 51 minutes is incredible good time. Try beat next time game sub 50 minutes and try beat current world records
4% items is pretty good idea if you pick up only one energy tank. My any-% run im collect 45-missiles 3-et and 10pb I know 45-missiles is pretty uncessary and bad idea, but Mother plant is possible beat more faster if you have 45-missiles. Nightmare took about 30-missiles. 30-missiles is maybe pretty good idea but Mother plant took about 20-30 seconds longer time if you have less 45 missiles.
You collect only 4-% item I don,t know it is good idea, because Mother plant took lot more time if you don,t have enought missiles. My 1% time is 59 because im losing much time because im have only 15-missiles. Nightmare and Mother plant took lot time if you have only 15-missiles.
Good work dark knight   3-minutes better than my any-% Pal versio. Im collect 10-% item because Mother plant is possible beat more faster if you have enought missiles.
But congrats guy
Im collect 3-et my any-% game. I know it is pretty uncessary. I think 1-2 et is good idea, actually 0-et is good but you need really much skill and lucky Yakuza and Big core-x battle.
My opinion 0-et is not good idea because Yakuza second form is really hard beat fast without energy tanks. Im recommend pick up next time 1-et in sector 6. This tank not take too much time. Yakuza second form took lot time my 1% game because i don,t have any energy tanks.
Thanks Nate. My best run is only one minutes slover than your best time. I think, you picked up pretty much same expansions than me.
PS:Silent echo: Try beat next Kip 22% hard mode time. Kip don,t use fastest possible route.
Just today im starting working any-% hard mode run and my time is Tourian entrance 19.12. Im have 30-missile 3-super missile and 199 E-point. Tourian segment is hardest segment, my opinion.
I think 10% hard mode not cause problem for me. 10% hard mode hardest part my opinoin= 1 Tourian (without varia suit) 2 Robot ridley and escape.
Giant side hopper after long beam is possible skip. my opinion this trick is easy.
EDIT: My any-% hard mode run: My time is Chozodia middle save point: 26.42 pretty good Im maybe try beat game sub 36.   But last segment is really difficult beat perfect.
I am pretty sure my 10% hard mode time is second best time ever in metroid2002 forum.
Im skipping early varia suit my 10% hard mode 51.25 time. My 10% hard mode time is extreme good records. This is under 6-minutes slower than ajbolt89 wr.
Im beat my run in one day, but this is very good time. Im try beat this run maybe someday sub 35 but just now i am very satisfied my run.
I am very satisfied man because many part took pure lucky. Tourian segment is aful beat fast because this segment took manipulate luck. Im have really much luck Mother brain battle. Last segment is very good but im missed little bit more time Black pirate battles. Slowest part my run is absolutely Ridley lair segment. Im hate Ridley lair segments because this segment is extreme hard beat perfectly. Tourian is second aful segment but im have enought lucky.
Im collect 35% item Im save 12-times (13-segment) My new Hard any-% run looking very cool. Im have only 199 energy point max and 30-missile & 6-super missile Im use Transiece any-% normal mode route but im picked up many missile expansion because my run is hard mode.
This is only 1.52 minutes slower than WR.
:P My new record Hard mode any-% : 0.35.52
ajbolt89 tell me comments. if you understand me.
But anyway aj run is good and chozodia segment is very hard beat  hard mode without energy recharge. I don,t use this trick my 35.52 run.
Possible improve ajbolt89 run 1: he use energy recharge in chozodia post stealth segment 2: he beat tourian segment too slow 3: he take couple mistake 4: he save game wrong place (my opinion) 5: Aj get uncesary energy tank before Ridley. Why?
Im interested run this game someday sub 35,  i don,t know sub 34. It is very big work try beat wr time, because ajbolt89 hard mode time is very good. I need more patience. I don,t have enought patience my 35.52 time because im beat my run in one day .
My route is good but not best possible, because im use Transience normal mode route and i think it is not good idea in hard mode. I don,t use ajbolt89 route because horizontal bomb jump over acid pool is really impossible trick.
EDIT: I am pretty sure ajbolt89 hard mode segmented world record is possible improve. My 35.52 time is not perfect. Game is easily possible beat sub 35. Aj route is maybe faster because he have screw attack and 4-super missile in Tourian. Im losing about one minutes time barrier and Mother brain battle because i not have screw attack.
Are you serious?  thanks.
2-missiles make barrieir segment impossible beat. you need four missiles ( my opinion).
I not never beat 9% hard mode because im think Tourian Segment is very hard beat if you dont have enought missiles. 10% hard not cause problem because you have enought missiles.
Tourian escape: 30 seconds (1.30 time left) Chozodia escape: 59 seconds (4.01 time left)
My escape runs normal mode
EDIT: im watch Silent echo boost guardian in one round battle with hard mode. This look really cool. I think this is much better strategy than kip strategy 22% hard mode.
Kip 3.37 22% hard mode video is easily possible beat faster but i know 22% hard mode is really difficult run maybe one hardest run in metroid game history..
He don,t skip Alpha blog and he don,t use screw attack strategy empy third form. I think he lose about 1-2-minutes emperor ing battles and about 1-minutes Alpha blog battle i am sure this run is possible beat 2.21-2.22.
Im saw sparky 100% segmented 2.25 video and it is possible beat.
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Dragondarch are master.
Ok Dargondarch is maybe best speedrunner ever. This not looking same than Metroid fusion 1% single segment but this is absolutely coolest nes Metroid video ever.
Im watch Dragondarch 100% video. This video looking very cool, this is coolest nes Metroid video ever.
Im practice my run my practice save file and im found pretty good strategy dodge Robot ridley down laser. Im found many save spot in chozodia pirate segment. I think it is possible beat 9% ss run Im died today Tourian escape next time im try beat this run but im think it is extremely hard job and this took very much lucky.
EDIT: Im starting workking today Metroid zero mission 9% SS run. Im died Tourian escape     Im have really much trouble wall jump because my hand are very nervous after Mother brain battle just im falling million times and im died because my time end. Im hope better lucky next time
COOL!
Im beat extreme fast robot ridley and escape.( 46.15 before robot ridley clear time 50.53. 4.38 is my last segment time)
My best time is now low-%: 10% hard mode: 0.50.53
8-) Yeah im improve last segment my 10% hard mode
Just 21% SS your need make grapple beam skip if you try beat this run. Silent echo have too much trouble grapple beam skip and he don,t skip grapple beam his any-% SS run. If you really try beat 21% single segment run in prime 2 ím hope good luck, really good luck.
21% single segment prime 2 are you serious? I think anybody here never beat 22% single segment run Rekamheos said he beat 22% game only one save. My opinion it is extremely good job because im have really much trouble beat 22% segmented run.
But im try 9%ss run someday again. Just now im try find good way beat chozodia and Robot ridley. Robot ridley attack claw, missile combo attack and he kill me instant hit.
Just im scared black pirate battle and last escape.
Next time i don,t try wall jump trick Tourian escape because my hand are very nervous after Mother brain and wall jump cause lot problem me.
Mother brain is pretty tought but im beat her yesterday my 9% single segment run 54-Epoint left.
Thanks aj. Just im need luck. Robot ridley is really aful fight im say this is only big problem.
This not looking cool, because im hate Super metroid controls. I try maybe someday beat this run sub 57 but not yet. Im take lot mistake my run and my run are PAL-versio.
My new record any-%: 0.59
Congrats guy. Yeah try beat next 9% normal game. This is excellent challenge, i think 15% normal mode are too easy if you picked up 4-super missile (2-expansion) and 10-missile (2-expansion) and 3-etanks.
Im save my game over 30-times (maybe 35-37) because this is my first run.
Instant kill strategy is very hard. This took many hours and much lucky. Regular screw attack strategy is more easier.
Emperor ing: last segment 3.15-3.23 Empy 1: perfect in one round Empy 2: Nearly perfect Empy 3: I don,t use extremely difficult Instant screw attack strategy im lose about 2-3 minutes Dark samus: 5.02 time left
Quadraxis: Pretty good first form and nearly perfect second form. Im missed one round him third form
Power bomb guardian: Pretty perfect. Maybe possible beat 10-seconds faster
Spider guardian: Im hate this boss very much. Im missed about 1-2 minutes
Chykka adult: My favorite boss look very good Im missed about 15 seconds
Chykka larva: pretty medicore im missed about 30-40 seconds
Boost guardian: This is very bad im missed about 50-seconds
Amorbis: Im lose about 15-seconds
Im working this run about one week. Im maybe try improve last segment someday, because im don,t use extremely difficult instant kill strategy with Empy 3. My last segment is one minutes slower than my low-% run last segment.
Im use only two trick: 1-laser ghetto in Dark torvus bog 2-Abanoded base ghetto before torvus bog. 3 I don,t skip dark suit but maybe next time im try skip Dark suit
3.23 (without sequence break) I don,t can du Sequence breaks. 36% item (4-et, 50 missile, 2-power bomb)
My best time Metroid prime 2 echoes normal mode
My first 3d metroid speedrun.
I think 3.23 is pretty good run, but im take many, many, many little mistake and many boss took too much time, specialised Spider guardian.
I try next time beat this game sub 3-hours. Next time im try skip Dark suit. Boost guardian is really hard beat because Silent echo strategy not working me and this boss took maybe too much time without Dark suit.
Alpha blog skip not working me. Just i not understand why everysingle Echoes tricks is too hard me. My route look pretty much same than Kip low-% run route but i don,t use Jump guardian trick and Under water dash.
Yeah if im use every single sequence breaks i am pretty sure im beat this game sub 2.15. But anyway. Im have too much trouble Kip dash over watch station acess and under water dash feel really difficult. Im practice under water dash jump about two months but i not never found good way make this trick.
100% Metroid fusion: 1.22 Metroid zero mission: 0.58 Metroid prime: about 8-hours Metroid prime 2 echoes : 100.scan and 100% item: under 11 hours
Low-% Metroid Fusion (1%): 0.59 Metroid zero mission (9%): 0.43 Metroid prime 2 echoes (22%): 5.50
Any-% Super Metroid: 0.59 Metroid Fusion: 0.54 Metroid zero mission: 0.31 Metroid Prime 2 echoes: 3.23
Now my times
Im hope luck if you try improve your single segment time. Im watch your 1.57 SS run and this run look really good. I think if you really try improve your 1.57SS run, you need luck.
How im du Roll jump? i not find this trick in gamefaqs.
Thanks, im hope this help me when im next time try practice underwater dash.
Devil soul + claim solasis make Menace more faster beat. Valamanway is good weapon but not working in Menace battle.
Easiest way beat Menace is claim solasis way. Because Menace are weakness light and Claim solasis is light sword. Axe is maybe second best weapon beat Mence. Maybe somebody soul help very much, but all soul are very uneffective in speedrun. Dead pirate + devil soul make many boss very fast beat, but Dead pirate not working in Menace battle.
Fast weapons, maybe not good idea beat Menace because Menace is very hard beat if you don,t have enought Long and strong weapon.
Europe released date are 5.5.06.
EDIT: Im finally skip Alpha blog. Bsj finally working, after 2-hours huh ;-) . I am pretty sure i don,t skip dark suit my next run, because abadoned base ghetto took about 10-100 tries. Hardest ghetto jump trick in 3d metroid history.
Before speedrun i try run practice run with sequence breaks.
My route are combination Kip, Radix and Silent echo routes. I think this route make possible beat this game sub 2.30, but i not have enought skill yet.
Early power bomb in Sanctuary fortress not cause big problem, but this is hard trick if you try speedrun this.
Silent echo strategy underwater dash sound very easy, but i not practice this trick yet. ´Game faqs underwater dash strategy feel very hard complete.
Im have much trouble perfect ghetto jump, Abadoned base ghetto are too hard without dark suit, because this trick took about 45 seconds my previous run with dark suit.
Bsj feel impossible. Only easy Bsj trick is Ing hive key board skip.
Yesterday im practice roll jump trick multiple hours, but just now this trick are pretty easy complete.
Just now im find good route speedrun this game.
Roll jump are my favorite SB, heh this not cause problem me just now because this trick is pretty easy, but Bsj is really hard (specialised Alpha blog skip). This took lot time, (about 50 tries per game) i not maybe use this trick my next run.
Thanks. Im hope this strategy help me my next run. Im watch radix and Silent echo video, but ghetto jump cause lot problem and i not find good strategy make this jump perfectly. Im hope this Djgrenola ghetto strategy help me, my next run. My last speedrun im lose about 45-60 seconds this ghetto jump segment. Im really hate this part my run. Dark suit skip is important trick in any-% run and i m really hope this your strategy help me. Next time im try under water dash, but i not can practice this trick my 100% file, because im have gravity boots.
Regular roll jump are easy, but Watchstation acess trick took over ten times, my practice run because you need very long distance.
Double and triple bsj not working yet but single bsj trick are easy just now. Ghetto jump not cause huge problem, but i not try skip dark suit my next run, because abadoned base ghetto took also couple tries. Agon energy is very easy skip, thanks dj grenola video.
Alpha blog skip is easy just now, my last time im missing this only three times. Under water dash is pretty hard, but im finally can du this trick.
Yeah next im try speedrun this game with sequece breaks.
Now i can du everysingle important sequence breaks.
Great bridge BSJ jump save lot time but this trick is really hard because, this took about 2-minutes my test run, but anyway im need enought patience. Underwater dash are second really difficult trick in Torvus, but anyway im try survive this. Underwater dash took about ten minutes my test run. Alpha blog skip not cause lot problem my test run, but im try make this trick first tries my real speedrun.
EDIT: my time after Amorbis/Agon wastes entrance: 0.40. I think this is pretty good because im not use Jump guardian trick and i don,t skip Agon keys. But im skip Agon energy control. This is 7-8 minutes faster than my 3.23 run. Next segment is Temple grounds and Torvus bog. Im try use lot BSJ trick in Torvus.
Boost guardian is irritating boss because Silent echo,s strategy not working my practice run, i not understand why. Next segment is Bomb guardian segment im try beat this boss in two round. Jump guardian trick looks very hard because this segment is really long, i not use this trick my current speedrun, because last morphed bomb jump took lot time my 100% file.
Im watch S-echo video and many strategy working good.  Im try use Radix route, but im try skip Alpha blog and Ing hive keys, but not dark suit. I think this game is very big operation speedrun, because many segment took lot time, Im working my first segment about 2-hours. Seeker launcher after Chykka is good idea, but Chykka and Quadraxis took lot time if you have only 100-beam ammo max.
I not try beat Silent echo time, but im try beat game sub 2.30
My time Agon wastes first save: 0.08 (minutes slower than Silent echo WR-run)
Im started my sequence break run today.
I just very tired try beat 9%SS because this run frustrated me very much just now.
Easiest route beat Zebetite segment in 10% hard mode is Super missileroute, but i think 4-missile route is easiest way beat 10% hard mode game, because Tourian metroid segment is much easier if you have 4-missiles max.
9% normal game im find easy way beat zebetites, because im picked up only one missile refill. This is easy way beat all zebetite,s  in 9% SS run.
Zebetite segment my 10% hard mode run took lot restart, because this segment is really difficult, i think this is still lot easier than 9% hard mode zebetite segment.
I think 9% Hard mode zepetite segment took multiple hours, because you have only 2-missile max. 9% hard mode not interested me because im have lot trouble zebetite segments.
Silent echo you said Emperor ing is hard. How many energy tanks you have max? I think if you have enought energy tanks Empy battle is pretty easy (my opinion).
Really cool time only 13-minutes slower than Radix old world records any-% normal. But Silent echo beat game hard mode and SS- huh
My opinion 2.24 is good time any-% segmented because i not have much skill this game.
But, anyway. Big congrats Silent echo 2.24 is extremely good time in hard SS run.
Kip 22% hard mode empy battle look very cool his strategy feeling very good. He lose only 50-e point Empy last form.
Im beat Empy battle in hard mode and im lose about 3-etanks my 100% file. But 6-energy tanks is pretty big risk if you play SS-run.
Idon,t can make double bsj but single bsj is pretty easy. I not understand why Double and triple bsj not working me even im use same strategy than single bsj.
Im hate Pirate commando segment before Chykka because Pirate commando appeared abut 75-85% and im skip both commandos, but my segment look very horrible because im make really much mistake, but Pirate commando skip make this segment extremely frustrating beat.
EDIT: 1.07 before chykka. This is about 30-minutes better than my previous run. Just i not try perfect speedrun im save my game multiple times because im have lot trouble make sequence breaks first try.
If im ever beat this run i am pretty sure im never speedrun this again. This game is really difficult speedrun my opinion, becasue im have lot problem sequence breaks.
Laser ghetto without boost ball im missed about 45-seconds but im working this segment about one hour.
Alpha blog skip first bomb is really difficult but still one easiest trick in the game. Im working this segment about 30-minutes
Underwater dash: im missed one time but this segement took about 3-4 hours, this trick absolutely one hardest trick in the game.
Great bridge BSJ cause lot problem, but im finally find pretty easy strategy complete this trick.
i am make millions mistake my run, but anyway this run is extremely difficult and insanely taxing
My time before Grapple guardian: 0.56
Yeah im hold back every time when i try make double and triple bsj. Thanks! next time i don,t hold back if i try make double or triple bsj. i hope this strategy help me.
I don,t use jump trick over water pool with roll jump my any-% run because laser ghetto took too much time and it is too frustrating use both hard trick same time.
Alpj´ha blog skip first tries took lot time and hard roll jump over water pool is damn hard trick because you need very long distance. Laser ghetto without boost ball is one hardest ghetto trick in the game. (im lose about 40-seconds time this trick my any-% run) Grapple guardian is easy time if you use scan strategy this fight.
Im understand this segment frustrated you. 1=Alpha blog skip 2=Roll jump 3=Laser ghetto 4=Grapple guardian
EDIT: 1.49 before Dark samus 2. (2/2 power bomb) Pretty medicore screw attack aka early power bomb segment.
Because game are pure nightmare if you have only one power bomb max. I get both power bombs expansion.
Next segment are Early screw attack and early power bomb this is one hardest segment in the game. Im skip Power bomb guardian my run and im try get both Early power bomb 1 Transist staition power bomb 2 Sanctuary entrance power bomb
My time after Spider guardian: 1.39 (25-minutes faster than my previous run) I am very satisfied my Spider guardian battle because it is over minutes faster than my previous run
My opinion it is possible if you have early power bombs. Silent echo have 1/1 power bomb max with last boss my opinion, but i don,t sure this.
Big thanks! :D  I was missed my run huh
Metroid prime 2 echoes: good game and im working speedrun just now. This game are damn hard speedrun with sequence breaks.
Metroid prime: good game but i not never speedrun this.
Metroid zero mission: easiest all for me. Im beat 10% hard mode sub 51 minutes and my any-% time are 31 minutes. This is my favorite game and easy speedrun.
Metroid Fusion: im like this game but, my best time is 0.54 and 1% 0.59. i am good player this game.
Super metroid: im hate Super metroid controls this is hardest 2d metroid ever
Metroid 2 ROS: i not never play this game.
Metroid 1: i not never speedrun this game but this game is easy beat
My opinion Echoes are really hard to speedrun.
Tom votava time orginal metroid in twin galaxie are about 17.?? it is better than Spider waffle run in sda.
I try improve this run someday sub 2.30, but just now i am very tired man speedrun Metroid prime 2 echoes.
im save my run over 40-45 times really bad but im have much trouble make sequence breaks without dying
I use lot trick 1:im skip Alpha blog 2:im get seeker launcher after Chykka 3:I skip Caretaker class drone 4:im skip ing hive keys 5:im skip torvus and agon energy 6:im use both underwater dash (this segment took 4-hours and im missed one jump one time) 7: im use great bridge shortcuts
I don,t use WR route, my route looks pretty much same than Radix old route, but i don,t skip dark suit and i don,t use jump guardian trick.
I know Silent echo laugh my run but i am still very satisfied my run because im working this run over weeks.
39% item: 3-et 60-m 150-beam ammo 4-pb
:D My time any-% normal 2.41
2: Im have further trouble make double bsj, i not need help triple bsj because i not need this trick my next run and single bsj is easy trick for me, but how i can du double bsj? im practice this trick in dark forgoten bridge but this not working. I know Rekhamheos advice me, but strategy not working why?
1: How im beat Boost guardian in one round? im watch Silent echo video but strategy not working for me why?.
But im ask couple question.
YEah im finally can du abadoned base ghetto pretty perfectly, im skip dark suit my next/future run.
Boost guardian trick is different, i try use just same strategy as silent echo, but boss rise up, in ground why? I not shot full blast charge his eye.
YEah all echoes trick are very hard first time, but im learn many trick in one week. Im learn make pretty perfect roll jump and  single bsj is very easy just now. i learn make underwater dash (this cause problem every time, but anyway i can du this trick, but underwater dash segment took multiple hours my speedrun. I can du make pretty perfect abadoned base ghetto, im learn this trick yesterday.
i am very satisfied my new run because i not use WR route
all bosses looks much faster than my 2.41 run
1: im skip dark suit 2: im get only 3/3 power bomb
it is 25-minutes better than my previous. This run looks much cooler than my previous run. i use pretty much same route than my previous rut but couple route change now
My new record any-% normal: 2.16
65-missile, 5 energy tank 200-b-ammo 3-pb
My opinion this is worst run, but hard mode is more difficult speedrun than normal mode
over 40-minutes slower than my normal run. i use pretty much same route, but i don,t skip dark suit because boost guardian are damn hard in hard mode without dark suit.
My time hard mode any-%: 2.59
My route are little bit more slower than your single segment route, because i get spider ball before screw attack.
Thanks your strategy Silent echo. i hope your trick working with me, my next run i need improve 17-minutes yet if i try beat game sub 2-hours.
100% Metroid fusion: 1.22 Metroid zero mission 0.58
LOW-% Metroid fusion: 0.59 (1% item) Metroid zero mission: 0.43 (9% item) Metroid prime 2 echoes 5.50 (22% item)
ANY-% Super metroid: 0.59 Metroid fusion: 0.54 Metroid zero mission: 0.31 Metroid prime 2 echoes: 2.16
My runs now. not much different than my previous post
How many time you save your game? i save my 100% run 14 times, i think it is too much, but it is very frustrating if you save game less than 14 times.
What your time is after your save your segment? My time 100% normal before Acid worm is 8.06 and before kraid 11.28. my clear time is 58.54 but i play my run normal mode and i know hard mode took several minutes longer to beat than normal mode.
NICE SEGMENT KRIDLY!
Boost guradian i think it,s must be very hard strategy because i not never beat him in one round. I kill him in two round my any-% run.
Grapple guardian looks very nice. Just i don,t understand how this is possible, you not scan him eye and second form you kill this form you don,t shot light beam charge his ass you shoot light beam charge his eye and boss dies. NICE!
I not try improve his run because my recors is 2.16 and my opinion this is pretty good time, but if somebody here try beat Silent echos perfect any-% run sub 1.43 i hope much lucky and patience
Ok possible improve his time 1-2 minutes grapple skip segment 1-2 minutes empy 3 Maybe about 3 minutes possible improve his time.
Silent echo any-% run looks just perfectly, i`m ptretty sure anyboby here never beat his time. But you are right, it is possible beat game sub 1.42-1.41 (maybe sub 1.40). Empy 3 battle instant kill strategy working very rarely (two time in my life), yeah it is possible but it is still very hard. He make 1-minutes pure mistake grapple beam skip segment, but my opinion this segment is one coolest segment his run, because garpple skip is damn hard trick in the game.
This is stupid question because i`m stupid man, but i hope somebody help me
I take photograph my Metroid fusion 1% 0.59 run (this is my old run, but i bought gba player and i play last segment again, and i take photograph my clear time (This is maybe WR time in 1% game), but i not can post this picture. Copy, paste not working why?
I not understand why i don,t can post pictures?
Because my picture located now, inside microsoft word, i not sure how big my file is. I write my file comments box next: 610*480 and 136 kt. and i push add attachemnt button again. Next i submit my post, but picture not appeared. :-s
My picture situated my own file, but i not can open my file when i push add attachment button yeah my file open but i not can choose my pictures here.
Thanks Chanoire, your add an attachment idea help me little bit, but i have further big problem, because i not can paste my picture.
I practice this trick long time, but i not find possible way make that trick. i`m skillful player with metroid zero mission, but i`m pretty sure this trick is not possible make PAL versio, i think europa versio move little bit more slower than Ntca versio.
I think norfair supermissile room shortcuts not working PAL-versio but i not sure this. (Watch: segment 5 -ajbolt89 100% hard video) he jump and put bomb upper roof and roof explode.
I think midair unmorph jump is slower make with PAL-versio.
I practice this trick, if i try someday speedrun 100% run again.
Oh thanks Ajbolt89!
Only bad part his run are Metroid prime form 1 last chamber. I think lowest possible time in the game is 1.03, i think 1.02 is not possible, if you don,t found more speedtricks.
I`m sure sub hour is not possible. I watch Kip video and this video looks perfect.
I really hope i see your video possible soon.
My time before Quadraxis any-% normal is 1.36, but you play 100% hard , :-s
I think it is better than my any-% normal time after Dark Samus.
Awesome silent echo!
Yeah it is possible if somebody here find more speedtrick or better route beat Kip time.
My best/currently 9% & 10% records took multiple days, because i restart my game many, many, many times.
My opinion this not very slow, if this is your first low-% run. Only minutes slower than my first 9% time. If you try improve your low-% time sub hour, maybe sub 50, you must be restart your game many times.
Don,t worry your english are much better than my english.
But if this not help you, Silent echo can help you better.
I hope this help you little bit, this includes couple trick with triple bsj.
But if you really wants beat normal 9% run sub 50 i think this is good challenge. I try someday maybe 9% normal single segment run again, my last run i died Tourian escape, and this run frustrated me.
Perfect Tourian is really difficult and took much lucky especially hard mode 10% run. This segment took couple hours for me.
Mother brain segment took only 3.56 minutes in my best 9% normal run, but i think 4.30 minutes is very good boss segment.
If you try beat normal mode sub 50- hopefully you have much skill and patience, because most bosses took lot restarting if you try get fast missile refills, i know i restart Ridley, Kraid, Mother brain and Mecha ridley battles many times when i beat my normal low-% run sub 44 minutes. Same route i`m use my hard 10% run, but this run includes several mistake, especially Tourian first metroid segment.
This not possible, because you not can beat norfair without power grip.
You not can break tentacle. Tentacle disappear when you get power grip.
But i think normal mode is at least 50% harder to beat than easy. I`ve not never tried 9% easy mode, because i`m play everytime normal or hard mode.
Not bad guy. Good accomplishment, but you die Black pirates battle aargh, bad lucky  , :(
Tentacle not disappear if you get only Unknow item, but you don,t get power grip.
Not working guy.
I`m too nervous tourian escape my 9% normal SS run and my time end, because wall jump cause too much trouble because my hands are too nervous. This is maybe stupid mistake ever for me. Tourian escape is one easiest part in the low-% run and i blow it my 9% SS-run
I understand guy, you are too nervous and Black pirates kill you.
I think lowest possible time is normal 9% game is 41.xx, but you need really much lucky and perfect segments.
1 i save my game 16 times (about 1.30 minutes) 2 Kraid segment is possible beat about 10-12 second faster 3 Tourian segment is really good, but couple mistake is here.
My 43.40 is excelent run, but not impossible to beat, if you have much skill.
My opinion your 52.37 is very good run because yesterday your time is 1.16. Hey guy i`m pretty sure someday you beat my 9% normal time.
Ok i not calling you Guy, if you don,t like this name.
3 Last escape is hard beat if you don,t kill all pirates, but this strategy is much faster than normal strategy. Watch ajbolt89 video, pretty perfect last escape.
2: try get 2 missile refills per- metroid, this make Tourian metroid segments much faster beat. But this took lot time, i mess up about 2 missile refills 1-2. metroids.
1 Beat barriers 1 missile refill strategy, this is much easier than 2. missile refills aka 10% hard mode strategy
My Chozodia stealth segment is pretty nice, because i not have big trouble made single wall jump. Only exception is my 9%SS tourian escape. If you want couple trick beat 9% game faster:
Save point before Mother brain 26.12 first save point Chozodia: 30.07 My Tourian escape 1.14 seconds left (fastes escape ever for me) i not get hit map computers
My Mother brain segment took 3.56 minutes, i not know how many minutes i lose my time Mother brain battle
Are you beat 10% hard mode ever? This is about 65% harder than normal, but if you are skillfull player i not see, any trouble beat this run
If you try improve your current run, not never get two energy refill from metroids, because you lose easily 30-40 seconds. I know it is really frustrating and took lot restart (2-3 hours for me)
36.17 is good time in chozodia first save point, but if you lose 4-minutes from zebetites, i think it is too much, if you try beat my time. My time hard mode 10% run chozodia first save point is 36.56 (i lose much time Tourian first metroid part, because this part is very long and damn hard in hard mode about 90% harder than normal mode).
My zebetite segment took only two minutes my 9% normal run, this is really fast aka perfect.
But if you not speedrun 10% hard mode i not see any trouble beat Tourian if you get early varia suit and save your game after every single metroid room.
Yeah it is difficult first time, but only very hard segment in 10% hard mode is Tourian, this frustrated me very much my 50.53 run, because i not have varia suit and i`m speedrun this.
Early sun trick looks very cool, but i not know is it good idea with speedrun. This trick took lot time, about one minutes or more.
Jos metroidit kiinostaa myös sinua niin tuonne suomi metroidiinkin voi rekata jos et ole vielä rekannut
En tiedä haittaako tuo sääntö rajoitus tässä tapauksessa, sillä kyllähän foorumi tilaa menee, jos joutuisi kuukauden välein luomaan aina uuden suomi ketjun tänne.
En huomannutakaan että tänne on taas tullut yksi suomalainen, no tervetuloa. :P
My own zebetite segments took 2.02, but i`m beat all zebetites less than 2 minutes. (all zebetite destroyed and 5-missile 99 e-point max my savepoint before Mother brain.
You need lucky.
Yeah but save your game after two zebetites and use second save point after third zebetite and last savepoint when you are destroyed all zebetites.
It is really fast, only 13 seconds slower than me. What is your time just now?
My Chozodia first save is 30.07 i think your time is only 2.56 slower than my best. I think you beat game easily sub 48. maybe sub 47. I hope luck, because my Robot ridley segment are really fast Before Robot ridley: 39.06 Clear time 43.40.
I hope luck if you try 10% hard mode run. Only couple peoples here metroid2002 is complete 10% hard mode myself includes.
But i`m very surprised, because your time chozodia first save is 33.01, it is very good (i think, your Mother brain battle is faster than me), but you lose lot time in Chozodia. About 3-minutes.
Nice time :P  :P  :P
CONGRATS MR.X
I started working any-% normal mode run yesterday. I try beat game sub 31 minutes. I`m pretty sure i never beat game sub 30 minutes because i use too much savepoint. My time kraid lair first save: 13.17. Kraid lair segment is really frustrating in any-% run, because i hate acid worm skip trick very much.
Excelent job MR.X your 10% hard mode time is only 8 minutes slover than my 10% best hard mode run. GOOD! i think i never try improve my time sub 50, because Tourian is really frustrating.
I hope lucky if you try easy 9% single segment. I understand this is frustrating operation.
I try maybe someday improve my 9% run sub 43, but i think this is really difficult operation. Only medicore part my run is Kraid lair segment and Mother brain, but all segments looks nearly perfects. This is really big operation, because 43.40 is really good time. sub 43 is easily possible maybe sub 42, but i think 41xx is lowest time on 9% game
My single segment record is 34.56, but i never make acid worm skip my single segment run, because this trick is 65% pure lucky, and insanely big risk in single segment run.
Acid worm skip is not too hard, but it is frustrating because i try make perfect segment. i need make this trick many times because i missed my segment every time after acid worm skip. This segment frustrating because acid worm skip took about 1-15 tries or more.
1 Barriers, Mother brain 2 Mother brain shine spark 3 Perfect stealth segment (without energy recharge) 4 Chozo boss (I hate this fight so much)
My time before Mother brain is 18.00 (58 seconds slower than Transience WR run) i have 50/50 m 4/4 sm and full energy. Next segment are really hard and long. this segment includes lot hard part, maybe hardest segment in any-% run.
I finally beat Tourian segment my any-% run. This segment took about 3, hours. Super missile refill appear very rarery.
CONGRATS MR.X
Thanks. 18.00 it is good. only hope beat game sub 30 minutes, but i´m sure i never beat game sub 30, because Transience is really good player and his two last segments looks really fast.
Next segment is Chozodia post stealth. Sub 30 is impossible just now but sub 31 is possible yet.
My Mother brain segment is still very good, battle look pretty much same than Transience run (only about 4-5 seconds slower) i not mess up Shine spark and i not get hit map computer.
I save my game Chozodia first save point 20.01. I know this is uncesarry save point but perfect Mother brain battle +fast super missile refill took about 2 hours and post stealth segment are really difficult beat without mistake. i lose about 12 second when i use this save point but anyway.
I use every single speedtrick my new run.
My sub times save 1 After power grip norfair: 5.56 save 2 Before Giant slug norfair: 7.24 save 3 Before Ridley ridley lair: 9.32 save 4 Kraid lair first save: 13.17 save 5 Tourian first save: 16.29 save 6 Tourian last save: 18.00 save 7 Chozodia first save: 20.01 save 8 Chozodia after chozo boss same save as WR run: 25.56 CLEAR TIME: 30.30
-26% item same as Transience
-8 save point 9-segment (i lose 1.02 minutes my save point, if i play this game same skill and single segment my time is 29.28. This run looks 30 seconds better than Transience SS run. Normal save took 6 seconds and Chozodia save took 12 seconds.
My new record any-% normal 0.30.30 Really good run
MR.X post stealth segment is same thing than suitless samus part. Understand?
How many sequence breaks you use your run?
What route you use?
PICCOLO CUBE GOOD JOB, but i ask couple questions:
Oh sorry. i see but too late.
Practice. This trick is little bit lucky.
Great route Piccolo cube. i think it is just same than my 2.16 run.
But i think 30.30 is really good run, it is very hard improve, because i use everysingle speedtrick/everysingle shortcuts, but i save my game too much.
My opinion PAL versio is couple seconds slower than NTCA versio(it`s must be little bit slower), i notice it when i watch ajbolt89 any-% normal mode video. Ajbolt last segment is about 17 seconds faster than me, i think my last segment is pretty perfectly, but still i lose about 20 seconds here everysingle times. I know ajbolt89 last segment is really fast (faster than me and actually it is 2-seconds faster than Transiece WR run), but i still lose too much time here.
My opinion  is not very good idea skip many save points, because it is more harder complete long good segment than short perfect segment. Ok my new sub 31 run include definitely too much save points, but i working everysingle segment about 1-3 hours, because i try make perfects segments. My single segment time is 34.56 but i lose about 2 minutes when i not skip Acid worm.
Now i get little break, because i am pretty tired speedrun perfects segmented runs just now. Next i try improve maybe my Any-% SS run but i not sure yet.
i hate last speed booster shortcuts on chozodia escape. If i failed this trick i lose about 20 seconds here. Chozodia suitless samus part is second irritating place and of course Kraid lair shortcuts, but i not never use this trick my SS runs. My 34.56 is pretty good SS run, because i not make big mistake here. My 100% SS run  surprised me because it is really good it,s Not looking same than Dragondarch run, but it is still very good.
I don,t like SS runs because single segments runs nervous me.
YEah sub 33 is easily possible without Acid worm skip. Maybe next time
1 I not skip acid worm (1-2 minutes) 2 Couple mistake with acid worm battle (5-7 sec) 3 I blow one acid pool speed booster trick in kraid lair (7-8 sec) 4 I blow Mother brain shinespark (4-sec) 4 I blow one easy shortcuts in suitless samus part chzodia (10 sec) 5 I not use light room shortcuts in suitless samus part, because this trick is hard and big risk on SS run (5-7 sec) 6 I miss one-two shots in Chozo guradian 5-10 (sec) 7 I get 8 super missile max because Robot ridley scared me 8 Couple little mistake (? sec)
This run looks horrible because i make many mistake here. I lose much time:
- 1.03 minutes better than my previous SS-run - 3.23 minutes slower than my segmented-run
33.53 (without acid worm skip)
My new single segment normal mode time is
EDIT: Is it new trick?
I think it is coolest secret world ever.
Congrats, i not understand how this is possible because that video looks so crazy/cool.
Good luck 9% normal SS is really hard and scareless. I not know, but i think if you beat 9%ss normal you are only one here metroid2002. Transience die chozodia escape and i die tourian escape.
Thanks!
have you windows media player MR.X?
i not understand why you not can see this video. I click yes i see this video.
Empy battle is easy beat if you use screw attack strategy for him.
What you mean? After Annhilator beam skip you not need anhilator beams, because sonic boom is optional item in the game. Yeah you not need Anni beam in my opinion.
NO! i think.
If you want beat game fastest possible route you beat game much faster. 100% normal is easily possible beat sub 1.10 if you choose fastest possible route.
You are good player in my opinion.
No bad!
I am satisfied because 100% hard mode SS run is very difficult SS- speed run.
- Early varia suit took about 25-sec or more. - i lose about 45-sec Kraid lair diagonal bomb jump - Kraid battle looks horrible. I lose about 45-sec here. - One room in ridley lair took about 20-sec - Super missile refill in tourian (before Mother brain) took about 1-minutes, because i am unlucky man. - Last energy tank in Chozodia took about 30-sec - Many little mistake
My mistakes:
-My first 100% hard mode SS- run -No save, no deaths. -Pretty good run, but i make couple very horrible mistake.
My time 100% hard mode single segment: 1.10.56
I not never get early varia suit 100% normal mode run, but my run is hard mode 100% SS, i think Norfair is huge risk without early varia suit, because you have very low-energy here and hot air eat your energy very fast. Only one mistake your game is over.
Is it possible get gravity suit before varia suit? I not sure but i think it is possible.
But i think Phantoom is possible beat before kraid. I think it is very hard trick, because you need make hard hoprizontal bomb jump before boss and you have very weak weapons (only power beam and charge) +couple super missiles. I think it is possible but you need much skill.
I not see any trouble get very early power bombs before ice beam. Only hard part is long vertical corridor, but kill every single rippers and if you are enought skillful and you can do single wall jump i think this not too hard.
Yeah! game is much harder beat without lock. Especially last fight first form.
When i beat Metroid prime first time i not use normal lock system here.
Echoes trick are easier than orginal prime, but bosses are lot harder in echoes.
I not never speedrun orginal prime because one early artifact after flaaghra frustrated me so much. This is one hardest trick in the 3d metroid history in my opinion.
Zero mission is actually easy beat sub 35, but sub 30 is really good time, i think only Gamecube04 and Transience beat game sub 30. My time is about same as ajbolt any-% time.
Actually Fusion is easiest Metroid game speed running, because this game not include lot trick and sequence breaks. Bosses are hard part and eye doors frustrated little bit and especially i hate long sub programsbefore next sector. Longest sub program is first sub program second longest is before SA-X. I mean it is very frustrating try beat perfect segment because every time when you take mistake your must be watch subprograms again. AARGH!
good work.
First time in my live i see, somebody make BSJ instant unmorph trick in orginal prime.
Actually if you speedrun any-% run you not need use boost ball skip trick. This trick is only 22% game trick and i not know how hard it is because i not never find easy way make early artifact after flaaghra trick.
SEGMENT 1 DONE 0.03 Sector 1 save point Yeah i hate first segment, because here is lot subprogram and first subprograms is really long. Eye door shot one beam, and Boss is irritating, he make two ball attack, yeah this took time but this is 1% game and i have 10 missile max.
EDIT I started run this game i try beat game sub 57, but i am satisfied if i beat game sub 59.
I maybe try improve my 59 and i maybe try beat game sub 57, minutes. 55-minutes is maybe lowest time, but i think it is virtually impossible time.
What is WR time in 1% game segmented run? How many people here is trying beat 1% segmented run?
My current records in last year is 59 minutes, i lose times, because i missed couple speedtrick. couple eye-X took extra round. i use only one energy recharge.
1 Yakuza second form took longer in 1% game because i think your must be dodge his attack. 2 Plant boss took longer because you have 15 missile max 3 Nightmare took lot time.
WR time any-% run is 50-minutes, yeah but 1% run couple part took lot amount time:
I watch couple segment dragonfangs TAS run, and he use many cool trick, i not sure is it humanly possible shot 2-missile core-x battle, regular gba console, because i not never tried this trick.
I think it is possible beat 1% game sub 57 minutes, because 1% game is not much slower than any-% run, but it is much harder.
EDIT 2 Segment 5 is complete my time sector 3 first save point is 0.16 I not know it is enought good, because it is same as my last run. I kill serris in two hit i make all important shine spark, but here is still couple stupid mistake, because this segment was hard, because many place took much lucky.
I really wonder how is possible beat 1% game sub 52 or sub 51. :-s  I not use hard double shot trick core-x battle because my thumb are too slow . It is maybe possible but it is too hard trick for me.
EDIT 1 Segment 3 & 4 complete, my time before serris: 0.13  i think It is about 30-40 second faster than my previous run. Segment 4 took really long time to beat i think about 3 hour, because eye tube boss attack very rarery attack and Sector 4 is really hard beat enought fast in 1% game because enemys took about 50 energy point per: hit.
Yeah sector 1 was really frustrating segment, here many place took manipulate lucky. This sector look pretty good in my opinion, only bad part was eye door because he/she shot two beams. Ok this segment took about 2 hours complete.
Segment 2 complete 0.07 sector 2 savepoint it is little bit more faster than my 59 run (i think about 15 sec) and my best time is about 0.59+ 25-35 second over
GREAT! Wassup dawgs your 1% time is 50-51 I think if you play same skill your any-% run again your time is 48 maybe?
I think you have gravity suit now, but i not tried that.
1 Going norfair take ice beam 2 going Brinstar and get early power bomb 3 going wrecked ship and beat Phantom 4 Picked up gravity suit next
It is hard but not impossible operation.
Yeah i think it is possible, if you get gravity suit before varia suit.
Metroid prime 2: if you get light suit before dark suit you have  still light suit. Heh that was fun thing. But ok i belive you it,s not working super metroids.
I try this trick someday, when i next time play Super Metroid.
This is news for me.
Next segment is REALLY HARD, BECAUSE I HATE EYE DOOR & BIG CORE-X BATTLE SO SO MUCH!!   Especially because my run is 1% run.
This segment looks perfects, but i lose little bit time because i have 17 energy point and SA-X power bomb took 20 energy point my energy, i lose little bit time because when PB explosive i must be dodge this explosive, but not worry this took about 2 seconds my time.
EDIT 2 Segment 7 complete my time before Puff is 0.20 +about 25-30 second over, i think.
EDIT I improiving segment 6 about 5-6 seconds Ok i missing one speedtrick (5-sec) but security robot are faster now i think it is maybe little bit more faster than Nate 0.53 run, but still about 4-5 seconds slower than WR run. Ok this not best possible segment, but i am pretty satisfied now.
Ok that segment was really diifficult, because security robot is really hard, and many speedtrick took lot time especially last one before boss. I think this segment is possible beat 10 second faster, but AARGH! i working that segment about 3 hours or more.
I not know it is enought good i maybe try beat this segment again, and improve little bit my time because there is couple stupid mistake. Ok i make same speedtricks as Nate 0.53 run, but Security robot is possible beat about 5-8 second faster, but it is hard because i have 15 missile max. I get stupid mistake after boss because one enemy hit me (2-4 sec)
Segment 6 is complete (maybe) time before sector 6 is: 0.18
Self destruct segment took 2 hours to beat., yeah it was really hard. 4.20 time left, i think  4.23 is lowest time with PAL versio, but i not make any mistake here.
EDIT 2: Segment 11 finally completed, my time before Habitation deck segment is 0.28 +50 sec over it is same as Nate any-% run  It is over minutes better than my previous 1% run and about 10 seconds better than my current any-% run (0.54).
Yeah i try skip everysingle energy recahrges my run and it is hard and frustrating in my opinion.
Segment 10 not caused big problem, but only big problem was: because i need picked up enought energy and couple missiles, before sector 3. You need enought missiles and energy here.
EDIT: Segment 10 is completed My time before sector 3 is 0.25 +45 sec over it is about same as Nate any-% run, but my run is 1% heh!
TO BE CONTINUED   Heh! :P
Just now i hate this game so much, i,ve never try 1% game again if i someday beat this run. My current time records is insanely good, it is really hard operation beat that time.
This segment was pretty easy, but pure lucky because enemys moves very randomly, i have lucky and this segments looks good, ok here is couple little mistake, but anyway.
Segment 9 Completet my time sector 5 save is 0.23 +15-20 second over (about 45 second faster than my previous records).
Segment 8 took huge amount time (about 2 hours or more), because Big core x was really hard beat fast in 1% game. Boss was pure lucky because sometimes boss took 20 energy point sometimes 40 energy point my energy, and i have only 99 energy point max, i died about 1000 times and eyedoor shot beam about 85% all my tries :x . Ok this segment was pretty well, i beat boss in 4 charge hits but i make little mistake because eye door before boss shot one beam (about 5 sec).   But anyway 1% game is huge amount harder than any-% run, because i not have enought energy and missiles, and because i have low energy Big core x battle was pure hell. Boss not cause any problem to beat in any-% run.
Segment 8 & 9 finally completed time after CORE-X battle is 0.21
This questions sounds very stupid but it is important question because, i speedrun this game just now. i hope somebody good speedrunner answer with me possible soon.
I know Zero mission savepoint took 6 seconds game time, but how many second i lose game time Fusion when i save my game. ( This game not include enought accurate clock)
How many seconds savepoint took time?
How many seconds are 62 frames?
If you mean savepoint took only about 1.30 seconds. Zero mission save took 6 seconds, fusion save is over 4 seconds faster than zero mission save
:-s  Ok thanks
This is Nate video. No sequence break run 100% I not know where i find any-% no sequence break run, but i hope this help you little bit.
- i skip all energy recharges - Perfect Serris battle - I beat big core-X in four hits - i find fast strategy beat Nettori - My Nightmare battle looks good - My security robot battles looks same as Nate any-% run, i think my security robot 2 looks better than nate run - Really good run, but still my run includes several little mistakes - Yakuza aka spider first form looks horrible i think Yakuza is possible beat 20-30 second faster but this segment took long time to beat. - couple eye doors shot one beam - of course 56 is possible with my skills, but i am very satisfied and tired just now.
-i use 20 save point -about two minutes better than my previous -this run looks insane, about same as Nate any-% run, but couple boos took lot time to beat in 1% run. -i not use crazy tricks, because i not as good player as Wassup dawgs -i working my run many days (about 1-2 weeks)
My 1% best time is: 0.57 (very high 57 about 55 sec over)
I think Double core-X shots is insanely difficult trick, i not find good strategy make this trick, ok my thumb are maybe too slow or this trick not working PAL versio.
My sub times Sector 5 before PB: 0-3? Main deck before Yakuza: 0.34 (very low) 0-5 sec over Sector 2 save before Nettori: 0.37 (very high) 55-59 sec over Sector 5 before Nightmare: 0.41 Sector 4 under water: 0.45 sector 6 before robot: 0.48 Metroid laboratorion: 0.50 Sector 1 before Ridley: 0.51 Maindeck before last boss: 0.54 CLEAR TIME: 0.57
Normal segment took two hours to beat, but good Robot spider battle took two days
sub 57 is easily possible with Pal versio, i think sub 56 is possible, but i am pretty sure i,ve never going improve my current 1% records, because this run is insanely difficult speedrun
My long operation is finally over. All 21 segment are finally completed and my time is 57 minutes, yeah this not as good as Wassup dawgs run, but yeah my run looks same as Nate, because i use same tricks here.
YEAH! :P
SORRY OFF TOPIC! I not know, how many differece PAL versio includes, but many PAL-NTCA game inculde little bit difference. Zero mission is impossible beat 9% hard in NTCA versio and scan dash not working orginal prime with PAL- versio, yeah many games includes little bit versio difference. Understand?
Ok i belive you this trick is really difficult because i try many times but not working.
If you beat my time you are Metroid fusion master.
GOOD LUCK DARK KNIGHT!
I wait when Dark knight try beat my time, but i think it is long operation.
Thanks!   yeah my 1% run looks insane, i think my new low-% run looks better than my current any-% (0.54) because this one is only three minutes slower.
Dont worry 59 is really good any-% time
PJ MAN! Good luck!
Make you video or not? If you make video i hope i see this video someday.
DARK KNIGHT! I think if you less your save you need really much lucky and patience because most segments took lot time to beat. I hate sub programs so much. I save 20 times because i really hate sub programs. Ok i know you are Metroid fusion master, i know you beat my time easily, but i think if you beat 1% run sub 55 it is really good/crazy run.
But anyway if you beat Smokey time on Super metroid you are master.
Good luck Smokey WR is really good on Super metroid, but i think you have wrong topic, just now, because this is Zero mission topic.
But Good luck!
My best SS without acid worm skip is 33.53 this run looks horrible beause i make many stupid mistake. I not never use Acid worm skip my SS run. Acid worm skip is really hard trick (lucky i think) with SS run.
Luke SS WR run is really fast, i think it is perfect SS run, only bad part his run is Mother brain battle because this fight looks horrible.
Ok sorry my english!
Yeah i think his time is easily possible beat with segmented run, but SS looks, sounds crazy.  Good luck.
Many boss took lot lucky on 1%SS run, Yakuza, Nightmare, Ridley and of course Omega metroid.
1%SS run in SDA looks horrible, but i understand because 1% SS is insanely difficult speedrun. I think it is virtually impossible to beat, but Dragon darch are master, one best speedrun ever, i think.
I think Yakuza second form attack very randomly, yeah Ridley is hard, but Dragon darch found pretty good strategy beat this fight pretty safety
sometimes I play my Nintendo or my Gba multiple hours and sometimes i spend lot time with my computer and sometimes i watch tv, yeah i am very lazy man. Trust me?
I use lot time with my computer/internet, i think about 10 hours, everysingle day or sometimes less than 10 hours if i play Nintendo.
I think it is sure possible skip acid worm without TAS run. I think only hope skip acid worm without power grip is: If you make horrizontal bomb jump over acid pool. This trick is damn hard i think it is nearly impossible, but ajbolt make this trick his run and he not have powergrip.
I tried that trick my gba, but not working.
But good luck, if you really want beat his run.
Just that run looks million times better than my own SS run. If somebody try really improve Transience run i think only way beat his time is Mother brain (about 15 sec here). This fight is not best possible, but still pretty good fight.
1 He make Acid worm skip   (this trick are extreme lucky) 2 He have extrme lucky Tourian (super missile refills drop and after Metroid segments he have over 40 missile refill) 3 Chozodia post stealth is huge risk on SS run without energy recahrge. 4 Enemys move very randomly places (Norfair ripper wall jump, this trick took lucky) 5 This run not includes any big and stupid mistake. Just Transiece have extreme lucky
Just Transience have extremely lucky.
I like when i watch Transience SS run first time.
Understand? my english are suck ass.
- I think this my idea working only 100% hard mode, because 100% normal mode acid worm not take too much time to beat.
-Kill acid worm and active zip line your second visit on Kraid lair (after suit boss and chozodia) -Acid worm is possible beat much faster, because you have multiple super missile if you kill that fight your second visit. If you kill that fight your first visit, you not have any super missile, and this fight took lot time to beat. - Collect all important missile expansions and energy tank, your second visit on Kraid lair.
-Use same route as WR run, but change one route on Kraid lair -Skip Acid worm and make horrizontal bomb jump over acid pool, this is hard, but possible trick -Don,t active zip line your first visit in Kraid lair
I not know working my idea, when i think is it possible beat 100% hard mode faster possible route.
I think Metroid prime is harder than Empy.
Emperor ing is my favorite fight, but it is pretty hard (only 22% game) but not too hard. Empy battle is very easy on any-% game.
I`ve never played orginal Metroid prime on low.%  but i hate orginal prime last fight so much, because this fight is long and irritating.
Only hope if you kill most enemies on norfair and get enought energy refills & enought fast. This took lucky but i think it is possible.
Your must be skip two energy tanks 1 one before acid worm 2 second ET inside Kraidlair, before norfair. Because your must be active zip line, if you want get that energy tank. Oh sorry i forget mention this energy tank is possible get without zip lines, but i think this took about 5-8 seconds, too much time.
I am pretty sure my new route is little bit faster than current WR route, but there is still one bad point, because i am pretty sure you not can skip early varia suit. you have only 249 energy point max on Norfair and i not know is it enought, because hot air drain your energy very fast.
Before acid worm you lose little bit time, because you not have power grip and diagonal bomb jump took little bit time, about 5 sec, i think.
Thats right, i think horrizontal bomb jump took time, but i think its took about 10-12 seconds and acid worm about 40 sec or more, because this fight took lot time on hard mode i not meaning normal, because i am pretty sure thats my strategy not working normal mode.
I could do it about 25-30% of the time    and it is too bad, if  i try that trick my next SS run.
Extra shine before rio room not take too much time (about 4-5 sec), but i understand, thats your second point. Yeah i missed missile expansion in the room with the 4 morph ball launcher. I not know how much this took time, if you get this expansion your second visit, but i think, too much. :|
I use same method as Transience.
1 Transience normal method 2 Ajbolt89 Horrizontal bomb jump (hardest trick in the game)
What you mean three method? My opinion there are only two method.
Thanks I not sure working thats your method. Only problem is last jump on the ledge. But i try.
Using the power grip to HANG ON the 2 x 2 blocks ( The easiest method, which I use![/quote]
My opinion Transience method is easiest all, but still it is extremely big risk in SS run.
but last bomb jump onto the ledge is only problem on SS run.
Just i understand.
I never completed your method (i try about 10-15 times). My opinion Transience method is piece of cake, only problem is last bomb jump onto the ledge this took about 1-10 tries. But anyway.
I hope this help you little bit. Watch segment 2 or 3.
There is video NO space jump any-%
-I lose only 5 minutes Kridly WR SS run.
-I get 15% item (7et, 50m, 10pb) -I have extremely much lucky all eye doors (pretty much same as Kridly) -Only really worst part on my run are Serris, this boss took 4 hits AARGH! Boss is possible beat 2 hits -There is couple very good part, i think Archanus both security robots, Big core X and Yakuza. -i missed about 2-3 speedtrick and there is couple stupid mistake, but anyway, this my best SS run is still very great, in my opinion
-WAU very great SS run, no save no deaths -Only two minutes slower than my best segmented & 4 minutes faster than my previous SS run.
My Best Time: single segment: 0.56
I not sure yet, but i think i started next 100% segmented or any-% segmented. If i started next 100% segmented i beat my current records very easily, because 1.22 is pretty worst 100% time (i think i try 1.18 or less). But i hate start long speedrun operation after my 1% segmented, because this run was pure hell.
i understand 1% segmented is really big operation and 1%SS is more longer. But good luck.
Thanks!
My style is different, but strategy is same as you.
I use that strategy my 22% run, and my last segment was 6-7 minutes faster than djgrenola 20% run.
I found this strategy long time ago
This is pretty old thing
Working it? If you use power bomb under him. heh it is news to me.
Perfect screw attack hits +anni beam round is as fast or faster than Master zed method.
My own method is so much easier, i think one screw attack +anni beam round make this boss lot easier to beat. i use screw attack under him when Emperor ing make jump attack. This took very randomly more energy his energy metter (about 25- 85%)
Master zed method is really difficult, i try thats your method multiple times. So hard i say.
I ask how many tries last boss took? i think no damage last boss in normal mode is harder than 22% hard mode last boss fight.
No damge sub 2- hours. Really?
Extremely good job!
Don,t worry silent echo i am 18 i not have girl friend. Yet.
Empy is lot easier on 22% game and especially shorter, because screw attack working very well.
This is major problem if you play 22% run, because you not have charge and beam combo weapons.
Ok good luck.
Ok i see now   Last segment is hardest all, in my opinion. You need stefan van dijike and smilingjack13 skill if you want beat last fight without lose any damage.
This is very strange glitch in my opinion. :-s
I know hi restore all his energy sometimes and this failed my speedrun. I use first anni round and second i use screw attack and if i have lucky boss dies. Sometimes i use only screw attack no annibeam.
GOOD LUCK! maybe someday you beat his WR time. But first your must be beat my best time.
Your must be faster, because 16.22 in Tourian is not enought if you want beat his time Transience time in Tourian is 15.46.
Very good sub time (16.22 Tourian). My time Tourian first save is 16.29 heh you are 7 seconds faster. My own best records is 30.30. I think it is very long way improve Transience  WR because it is so perfect.
You change couple route, i not know is it faster, after power grip you use same route as ajbolt89 his 10% run, how many seconds this is faster? I use left side route same as Transience.
Looks good pretty much same as my run only expection is i not use roof bomb trick, and you change one route.
Nice job Kridly. :P
I really wonder how is possible. Somebody spam your account. About 100 spam post, i think.
Silent echo watch your profile. Somebody change your profile.
100% normal: 58.54 100% normal SS: 1.03.06 100% hard: 1.02.30 100% hard SS: 1.10.56
Low-% 9% normal: 43.40 Low-% 10% hard: 50.53
ALSO: i post my all zero mission time now: Any-% normal: 30.30 Any-% normal SS: 33.53 Any-% hard: 35.52 Any-% hard SS: 46.26
Maybe morning or someday i try play two last segments again and try improve my time sub 1.02, but just now i am pretty tired, this run took one weeks to beat.
I skip early varia suit in Brinstar, but i think this not faster way, because all norfair recharges took about 32 seconds game time. I not know how many seconds early varia suit took time.
This not perfect run, because 100% hard mode is maybe hardest speedrun category in the game. There is couple stupid mistakes and 17 save point (18 segment run).
AArgh :x  KRIDLY is 100% master, i lose so much his time, but anyway.
My best 100% HARD MODE: 1.02.30 :P
Good luck.
My run includes couple mistakes 8 save and +energy recharge in Chozodia.
Eagle: if your time in tourian is 16.05 i think you can beat game sub 30. My time tourian first save 16.29 and my clear time was 30.30, if you play same skill as me your time is 30.06
I improiving two last segment. My Robot ridley segment was very well about 2-seconds better than ajbolt89 run. My last segment took 2.57 minutes, yeah sub 3 minutes.
14 seconds better than my previous ending.
Best 100% HARD MODE: 1.02.16
I think it is very long/hard way beat some WR records, but maybe someday or not. look forward.
Thanks.
i am pretty sure I,ve never beat game sub 30, but congrats to you. You are any-% master.
Eagle you have extreme skill on any-% run, sub 30 WAU! very great time one best ever.
Real WR time is over 3 minutes faster than my own, Kridly have real WR 58.59 it is really good run, i think i`ve never beat his time.
I not know my 100% hard is not best possible because i not trying perfect run, i think sub 1.01 is possible my skill, but yeah 1.02 is still pretty good time, about 3-4 minutes slower than my 100% normal run.
Yeah Transience is first, but Eagle is second best any-% runner in my opinion. Ok anway.
I made two very big mistakes i think 59-58 is easily possible my SS skill. WR is 56.11
One missile expansion in Ridley lair took one minutes get, AARGH :x One enrgy tank in Chozodia took 45-50 seconds. Just this is easy energy tank but Pulse bombu shoot me two times and stoped my shine spark.
This is pretty good 100% SS run, but there is 2 very, very bad spot
2.03 minutes better than my previous run SS. 2.09 slower than my segmented run
Best time 100% single segment: 1.01.03
EDIT: Dragondarch 56.11 is really crazy 100% SS run he use all crazy trick and he not made any big mistakes. Yeah this surprised me. But Dragondarch are lucky boy.
Next i maybe try improve my 100% normal mode single segment time again, because i not very satisfied my 1.01.03 time because i made one- two minutes pure mistkake in Ridley lair yeah one missile expansion caused lot problem. 0.59.03 or sub 59 is easily possible if everything works next time.
Ajbolt89 100% hard mode video on sda is really old. He not use mothership shortcuts and his video includes couple mistakes especially second last segment and he get full energy in chozodia suitless samus part.
Still my run was good, because there was many very good part. I am very tired man, i think i not try sub hour run just now. But maybe someday future.
This is good run, but there is still couple stupid mistake. 1 Tourian escape was very poor part 1.21 time left. I falling two times 2 Little mistake in Kraid lair about 10-seconds 3 Acid worm was pretty worst part i use orginal strategy.
This run include only one very horridous mistake, pulse bombu stop my shine spark about 4 times, this one took about 50-60 seconds my game time. Oh i hate that energy tank, because it is pure lucky, pulse bombu shoot beam very randomly and stop my shine spark everytime. I hate that enemy.
AArgh :x  i need 12 seconds yet, but nope it,s not enought i not beat game sub hour. :|
Best time 100% Single segment: 1.00.11
I not have any good trick but watch ajbolt89 video there is many good trick. I used same tricks as ajbolt89 old records. Watch ajbolt89 video if you want beat my time. My time is over minutes slower.
My 10% hard mode is not very good time, because i not use all possible trick, there is one very incredible good part: My Mecha ridley battle & escape was superb, yeah it was no damage segment, just i not lose any energy point here.
My own 10% hard mode run are pretty old run. I copy my strategy ajbolt89 49 minutes video, i use 4 missile route. My opinion 4 missile route is better.
My little brother speedrun this game 29.?? minutes (PAL), i`ve not never speedrunnig this game because mario game speedrun not interested me, only expection is SMW.
New Super mario bros was very great game, but it is short and easy. Took two days to beat all 100%.
I not sure but i think i try 100% normal segmented run next. I hope sub 58 minutes time.
It is nearly impossibe beat current 100% normal WR time if you speedrun segmented run, because Dragondarch time is quite perfect SS run. One save point took 6-8 seconds game time, i think only hope beat current 100% WR on segmented if you use 4-5 savepoints max. Dragondarch not make any big mistake, i think this run includes couple 4-5 sec mistake.
sub 57 is easily possible if you less savepoints. I think 55.xx is lowest possible time on segmented, but iam satisfied my run because it is really cool and looks better than Dragondarch single segment run.
I maybe try last segment again morning or someday, i think i can beat game sub 57.10.
Second thing: my last segment are pretty bad, because i skip last save before Robot Ridley because this took over 15 seconds game time. Last segment include couple stupid mistake 1=One geemer took 4-5 seconds my game time 2=I missed couple Super missile against mecharidley battle. 3=I mess up about 5 seconds on escape because i missed one shine spark
I use chozodia energy recharge +save because perfect chozodia suitless part and Mother brain is too hard combinaton. This one took 12-15 seconds my game time, but anyway.
Yeah this my segmenteds run looks much cooler/faster than 100% current WR time, because Dragondarch time is SS run and i lose 96 seconds game time when i use 15 save.
14 save (15 segment) All save points took 6+6+6+6+6+6+8+6+6+6+12+8+6+8= 96 seconds if i play same skill SS my time was about 55.45 about 30 seconds faster than WR
My run are finally done took 4-days complete this run. it is 1.35 minutes better than my previous.
Best 100% time: 0.57.19
Sub 57 is easily possible but maybe next time. :P sub 56 is possible but so hard operation, maybe nearly impossible.
I beat my run in 4 days but yeah perfect run took two weeks or more, but just i am maybe pretty impatient man. 8-)
I think it is really difficult operation, your must be faster than Dragondarch and it is really difficults, because this game include randomly enemys and many very difficult spots and trick.
I am pretty sure Dragondarch SS run is possible improve if you use 6 segment. 6*6=36 and it is enought if you play same skill as me. 1 one before Acid worm (boss is very randomly) 2 before Kraid (very hard beat enought fast) 3 before Tourian (you need lot super missile refill) 4 Tourian second save (good save point) 5 After Power bombs (this took only 6 seconds)
I save my game middle chozodia because there is one very hard wall jump shortcuts and Chozo boss are very randomly fight. My Chozo boss was very fast i not missed any shot and all diagram appeared very fast. I know this save took 15 seconds but anyway. :|
Yeah i know saveless chzodia is better idea, but perfect Chozodia suitless part is hardest segment in the game for me, and perfect Mother brain and Chozo boss are very difficult combination. My Mother brain and barriers took 31 seconds game time to beat. Yeah it is really fast and i not missed hard shine spark after Mother brain.
Thanks!
I am satisfied i think i not try imporve my last segment again.
There is only one 7 seconds mistake i missed one shine spark on Chozodia escape (3.54 time left my best time left is 4.01) :x , but anyway   my Robot ridley battle was perfectly and this segment is about 9 minutes long, and i think sub 57.10 is lowest possible time on my save file.
My last segment is very good took only 8.52 minutes
My time is: 57.15
:P I improve my 100% time once again. Last segment was 4 seconds faster.
Only expection is really difficult horrizontal bomb jump over acid pool in Kraid lair. I`ve never complete that trick, because this pool is really long.
I am good bomb jumper. Double bomb jump and horrizontal and diagonal double bomb jump not caused trouble for me.
Actually bomb jump in the powergrip pit are easy palce, this not caused any trouble for me.
I am good horrizontal bomb jumper, but not as good than ajbolt89.
I know game is easily possible beat without powergrip and plasmabeam, but you need some glitch if you want pass this tentacle.
Yeah, but there is only one real problem, because one tentacle in Norfair. You not can break or pass that tentacle.
Speedbooster not working. I know because i try shinespark trick last time.
If you found some strategy pass this tentacle, tell it. But i am pretty sure it is impossible find strategy pass it.
I think it,s not working, but i not sure because i,ve never tried.
Luke records are finally history. =D>
Congrats spidey widey your WR time. :P
If you have same skill as Smilingjack13 you can beat Ekaderif records very easily. I think sub 1.20 is possible.
Hard mode any-% run is not best possible in the SDA, because low-22% hard mode is only 4 minutes slower than current hard any-% run.
I hope you bought GBA player and make video (if you can), i really wonder how is possible beat Transience time about 40 seconds, because his run looks perfectly in my opinion.
Seriously
His time are 39 sec better than Transience WR time.
Spidey Widey you are incredible man
But congrats MR.X. I am sure i never ever try beat 1%ss run, because this run nervous me.
TDK working maybe sub hour 1%SS run. My best 1% segmented run are 57 minutes and my run includes 21 segment i lose over two minutes game time with my save points.
Good job MR.X 1%SS 1.06 it is extremely good job and only 11 tries WAU!
If you get varia suit in Brinstar with your fully power suit
Is it possible complete game 101%?
I not try that run because i am worst SS runner. Omega metroid scared, nervous me and Yakuza, Nightmare and Ridley took couple dies everysingle times.
I think you really need patience, lucky and extremely fusion skills. Dragondarch die about 50 times. You only 11 it is good enought.
Omega metroid is one easiest boss but this boss kill instant hit and battle nervous so much, because it is last boss.
Nightmare is pretty easy, but only one stupid mistake your game is over. Ridley strategy looks good, but i not never tried that one.
I know there is very good boss strategies. But still this run not interested me, becuase Yakuza second form is pretty randomly and very dangerous.
EDIT I use this method my 2.16 any-% run. I think i beat Empy 3 in 30 seconds, but this not perfect but still good.
Now this strategy is pretty easy for me, this not caused any problem my 22% game. Only problem is jump time, this is little bit lucky and took practice first time.
I know this screw attack method took lot practice first time. I working that about 1 hours my 100% file. Yeah my own screw attack method was different than Master zed method and actually my method is easier, but not any slower in my opinion.
Very nice time actually only 1.09 slower than my 100% normal run. I try fixed my windows mediaplayer. Maybe i can watch your video someday.
Congrats Kridly with your run.
Perfect Mega x battle (4 hits) took over two hours to beat my 1% run.
Heh Mega-x is second hardest boss speedrun on 1% game (Yakuza is hardest). Boss is easy beat in 4 hits on any-% run but not easy beat in 4 hits on 1% game. Yeah boss barrier took 20 e point per hit and boss itself took 40 energy point per hit. You need lucky and perfect timing, because 99 energy point is too low.
I not never speedruunig orginal prime, but i think your 100% hard mode records are better than many players any-% records.
Congrats Zoid. lot nice times.
My opinion this is hardest game Prime series. Is it possible dodge everysingle enemy attack without dying?
I am pretty curious what is lowest percent in the game? Is it possible beat game without energy tanks, minimal missile expansion and only 30 U-ammo max?
Is it possible beat Sylux without energy tanks? Sylux uses Shock coil weapon and you not can dodge his shock coil shots.
You need U ammo shots against Slench 2,3 and 4. I know enemys drops couple refills, but it,s must be still very hard, impossible.
I not beaten that game yet, but everysingle bosses took about 5-6 energy tank and multiple tries to beat. But how hard it is without energy tanks and minimal possible ammo.
Well scan percent are easy avoid, but item percent is really difficult, maybe impossible in my opinion.  I not know how many people in metroid2002 are skipped everysingle energy tank and all possible missile, U-ammo expansions.
EDIT: My first completion is slowest first complete time here. Hah hah
I think i,ve never speedrun this game, but i not sure yet. Maybe near future.
That game was hard, my opinion hardest game on Prime series. Gorea 1 took almost 1 hours to beat, because that boss was frustrating and long. Gorea part 2 took 12.45 minutes beat.
47 death Hunters & guardians defeated: 72
Clear Time: 16.35.03 Gorea battle 1: 57.02 (minutes) Gorea battle 2: 15.43 (minutes)
My first complete time:
This game is really difficult speedrun.
Looks my Gorea battle. Actually it is slowest here. Slower than Youshi348 Gorea battle. I really have trouble destroy his hands. Last round took almost 30 minutes and battle total took 57 minutes + second form 15 minutes  +couple deaths. Battle took almost 1.30 hours total.
25 hours are really bad first comletion. My 16 hours is bad enought. I think your first completion must be faster than 25 hours. I think easily sub 20 hours.
I wait if you made new 100% normal WR. Maybe 55xx or 54xx.
Your best any-% are 28.11 and my best 30.30 you are lot faster player than me. I think i have maybe more skill than you but you are faster.
Same skill and single segment my time is easily sub 56, but i am worst SS runner.
I think your skill game is easily possible beat sub 56 minutes with 100%. My best 57.15 looks good but this not perfect because i use lot saves +stupid energy recharge in Chozodia post stealth.
Dragondarch is best single segment runner ever in my opinion, he are extreme lucky and enought skillful.
I not very good SS runner, my Zero mission 100% SS is 1.00.11 and my 100% 15 segment run are 3 minutes better, but it,s looks 5 minutes better than my SS run. My SS run includes 5 minutes pure mistakes.
You are good SS runner. I see you beat M fusion 1%SS 1.06 and your zero mission 9% Easy SS sub 50 it is very good low-% SS. I think easy mode not much different than normal.
I think Kridly made video his new 100% hard mode run and he submit it on sda.. But its not avaible yet.
100% hard mode is much harder and longer than normal. My best 100% hard are 5 minutes slower than my 100% normal run.
I think Kridly 100% segmented hard looks better than DD 100% SS normal, his time are 58.24, about two minutes slower than Dragondarch SS run.
Dragondarch time is very good only because it is single segment. Segmented skill game is possible beat 55.xx, i think 54.xx is slowest possible time with 100% normal if you have insane skills and patience.
Dragondarch SS not never looked as good as Transience any-% segmented.
Hard mode is about 3 minutes slower than normal. Maybe 55.2x is possible. Maybe 54xx but anyway.
EDIT: Three metroid room are completed. I save my game after everysingle metroid rooms, because i have only 2 missile max and i not try speedrun. Next Metroid room is hardest metroid room in the game.
I think i not beat that run, but i still want try. This run are 50% harder than 10% hard mode in my opinion. One reason is Metroid and barrier segment and second reason is Robot ridley.
Ok i skip early variasuit, i am maybe crazy or stupid.
TWO metroid room are complete my time is 31 minutes. It is very slow, but i not try speedrun.
I not try speedrun, because it is too hard. I think i maybe not never complete that one, because there are nearly impossible zebetite segment only 2 missile max and Tourian metroid segment. Oh goddes i hate that segment, there are one very hard room, before Tourian middle save.
THIS IS SLOWEST PERCENT IN THE GAME. you not can beat game 9% hard mode on Ntca versio.
I started run 9% (PAL) HARD MODE run
Undrestand what i mean? But is it wrong?
1 Copy your post 2 Press delete button and delete your current post 3 reply 4 paste your deleted post and use EDIT button next and answer
Good idea avoid double post
I think i not have big trouble beat any bosses. Mother brain is pretty easy and Robot ridley pretty hard/randomly, but i think i not have big trouble beat him.
I think i really scared two last zebetites and next metroid room. This metroid room are largest and hardest in the game.
Ok anyway.
Why you run 10% hard with Screw attack? 4 missile route is much easier than screw attack route. Super missile route is second easiest route. If you have trouble beat Robot ridley i recommend super missile route, because Robot ridley drop lot SM refills pretty easily and boss is very fast kill, if you have super missiles.
I not can watch any video yet because my Windows mediaplayer not working. :|
Ok it was secret world run and maybe it is faster way than 22% regular low-% run.
WAU great. How you can beat game sub 2 hours? Actually it is better than Silent echo any-% single segment time.
I try fixed that someday. I not fixed that itself, because data technology is too hard for me. :-s
I can hear music on my Windows mediaplayer, but i not can watch any videos. Videos screen not appeared. :-s
I think i not can watch VCL videos. Just now i can watch only youtube.com videos.
How many people here are complete 9% hard mode without emulator and savestate?
I try that couple hours but i not found way pass that zebetite. Screw attack make this easier, because you can destroy rinkas lot faster and bullets not caused any trouble if you have screw attack, but i not have screw attack. i really wonder is it humanly possible, without screw attack and 2 missile max.
I not know is it humanly possible complete 9% hard mode, because zebetite caused really big trouble. You need 3 refill right time right spot without losing any damage. Impossible in my opinion. I think only way is TAS or maybe second way is if you are EXTREME LUCKY.
I have really big trouble destroy first zebetite.
9% is not possible with NTCA versio, ajbolt89 home country is USA i think he not have PAL versio, but i not sure.
Is it ajbolt89 9% PAL HARD run TAS?
Super missile route is harder speedrun than 4 missile route. My best time 10% hard: 4-missile route: 50.53 Sm-route: 57.14 Screw attack route: i not never tried, but its must be lot easier than 9% HARD PAL:
Zebetite segment is easiest part in the game with SM route.
Yeah Spidey Widey try next run with SM route. Robot ridely is easy if you have super missile. Boss drop 1-3 SM refill pretty easily and boss is short and lot easier in my opinion.
I maybe stopped my run, because i think first barrier is too hard and last is impossible for me.  Last barrier took many tries on 4 missile route, i think i never ever beat that one only 2 missile max, because first one zebetite feel impossible and it is easiest all.
ajblot89 are low-% master. USA game range is better than Europe, because i not can buy any NTCA versio games.
My opinion you need only 2 power bomb max and you not need early PB expansion.
You said your comments: you get early power bomb expansion. Why? Is it possible skip that and complete 16% run?
But Djgrenola skip grapple beam his low-% run, i think it is humanly impossible, because Silent echo made many mistake and he lose lot energy here.
S_E said it is very difficult operation, he not skip Grapple beam his SS run.
He skip grapple beam. Seriously?
I am amateur Hunters player. :|
My own are 41 minutes and my previous 57 minutes. i think i´ve never beat him less than 20 minutes.
This game is hard. I really wonder how is possible beat Gorea 1 less than 7 minutes.
GOREA 1: 41.11 minutes GOREA 2: 06.21 minutes
I improiving my Gorea battles about 25 minutes faster than my previous
But congrats.
Maybe you are better low-% speedrunner than any-% speedrunner, because 46 minutes with 9% is very good time but 35 on any-% is pretty good time.
But i think you can improve easily thats your run. You said long time ago your 9% time on normal is 46 minutes, i think its must be looks cooler than your any-% run.
Congrats, pretty good run.
I hope you try next improve Silent echo single segment run, he not skip grapple beam and i think grapple beam skip is almost 10 minutes faster way complete that game.
DJ grenola said you found much easier strategy skip grapple beam.
But good luck.
I think you maybe have really big trouble beat 9% SS normal because you said you have big trouble beat Robot ridley with 10% Hard mode. My opinion Robot ridley is almost as hard 9% normal than 10% hard.
You need lot skill, lucky and maybe patience because Robot ridley attack randomly, this is only real problem on 9% normal single segment. I not know how hard is complete easy 9% SS because i´ve not never played easy mode.
I die tourian escape long time ago, because i am so nervous after Mother brain. This was very stupid death, but anyway.
9% Normal single segment is so hard, my opinion it is much harder than 10% hard mode segmented.
Iowa said Grapple beam skip save almost 4 minutes, maybe if you skip grapple beam on single segment, you maybe made some mistakes and it still saves 2-minutes your game time.
I think it is still easier than low-% run, because if you played single segment any-% you can made some mistakes, because you have 5 energy tank max, but djgrenola have only 0 energy tank, because his run was low-%.
I not never found very good strategy beat Mecha ridley on 9% SS normal. Sometimes boss shots all lasers down corner and shooting missile same times. You died very quickly. Battle is pure lucky in my opinion and very big risk if you not save your game.
But strategy is easier but slower than ajbolt89 strategy. But it is good strategy on 9% SS run, because you not try beat game very fast.
I use Transience method i jump same platform as Mother brain, i shot 5 missile and i freeze and destroy rinkas. Rinkas drops missile refills. This is hard explain because i not speak very good english.
Good strategy beat this fight, not use ajbolt89 strategy if you not speedrun.
Actually Mother brain is pretty easy, because i know good strategy beat her. Only expect this battle is very nervous on 9% normal single segment, because if you push wrong button and falling acid pool, you died very quickly.
I hope you understand what i mean.
Stand same platform as Mother brain. Freeze lower rinkas and destroy upper rinkas.  If upper rinkas drop missile refill get it and jump back Mother brain platforms.
Yeah it is hard explain but i try.
Just that i mean when i said my english is not very good.
My low-% segmented strategy is different, its not same than ajbolt strategy and its not same as this, i use all three platforms, but it is very hard explains. This  strategy is fast, my best MB segment are 3.56 minutes.
I use that strategy my 9% single segment run. My opinion this is easier way, but slower, i not use that my low-% segmented run, because it is too slow.
Diifficult? :-s
EDIT: Oh sorry you mean any-%. I read wrong
Acid worms skip is not possible with low-%, because you not can beat rio room. You have only 5 missile max, you need  about 20 missile + perfect horrizontal bomb jump.
My Best Boost guardian segment took almost 2-3 minutes (normal mode), i beat him in second rounds and battle itself took almost 1 minutes. I not know what is my longest battle but i think it is almost 5 minutes on hard mode.
I think you run secret world run, because you not can have power bombs against Boost guardian.
I not can watch that video yet, but i maybe watch your video in next week.
Yeah but 100% normal mode is much easier and faster than hard mode. You are really good 100% speedrunner.
It is actually only 1 minute 9 seconds slower than my 100% normal mode run. I am sure your run looks better than my 100% normal mode.
Congrats Kridly amazing 100% hard mode time.
I think i survive almost 5 minutes on hard mode 3 energy tanks max. I think i can survive little bit longer, but i´ve not never trying.
Yeah i know what his means, but i said i´ve not never trying that. how long i can survive.
go go go
I see your SS 100%  with normal looks insane, i not never can beat your run with segmented, because i lose too much time when i save my game and your 100% SS run was pretty perfect without any saves.
You maybe can improve Kridly run with single segment. Kridly lose over one minutes with save points.
Dragondarch.
Hell yeah i know you are maybe crazy enought, skillful enought and lucky enought.  Good luck if you never ever try improve your time.
I say my run was pretty perfectly. I not see way complete game sub 55 minutes. Sub 56 hell yeah it is possible. I think if you mean you speedrun sub 55 single segment you need lot better run than my segmented. If you speedrun single segment you not can use savepoints and you not can have manipulate luck.
My best 100% normal are 57.15 and i use 14 savepoints. same skill and single segment my time was almost 55.40.
Just that is reasons why i not like speedrun single segment runs.
Last time i have big trouble complete 100% single segment run. Pulse bombu stop my shine spark 5-7 times, and i lose 1-2 minutes game time.
I not like speedrun SS runs, because every time i have bad luck and some stupid enemy (pulse bombu my 100% SS run) or room caused trouble. I made every time some stupid big mistakes.
Congrats you skip acid worm. My single segment run looks much cooler than your, because it is 33.53 without acid worm skip. I think i can beat sub 32 SS run if i can skip acid worm, but that trick took everysingle time about 1-10 tries and it is too big risk on SS run.
I am maybe one best Zero mission player ever, but i not can do acid worm skip very good.
But i´ve never try that trick single segment run, bcause it is damn hard, i think pure lucky for me.
Today i practice acid worm skip on my 100% file but today i am very unlucky and this took almost 100 tries. Normal i can do that trick about 10% of the time.
I think you can complete Tourian and zebetite segment little bit faster if you have 60 missile max on SS run.
2 Get second missile expansion in Kraid lair after Kraid battle.
1 get missile expansion in Ridley lair same room as where you found first SM expansion
I think if you get 2 more missile expansion than Transience. Get missile expansions in next rooms:
50 missile is best possible on any-% segmented run, because you can save and have lot manipulate luck. But SS you not can have manipulate luck and you not can save your game.
Is it possible beat any faster any-% SS run if you have 55-60 missile max?
I think 60 maybe better than 55 if you speedrun SS run. I recommend you get next time one missile expansion in Ridley lair, same room where you found first SM expansion. This took only couple seconds your game time, i think it is as fast as Kraid lair expansion after Kraid battle, but it is easier. I recommend you get both expansions, i am pretty sure you can improiving easily 20-30 seconds your Tourian time.
I get 65 missiles max on my SS run, because i not skip Acid worm. Yeah Tourian zebetite part are faster.
I think i get 8 SM max but this took only 5-6 seconds game time. This not very bad mistake.
EDIT: I am stupid when i get 8 SM max my SS run. I get 8 because i scared if i miss couple super missile against Robot ridley.
It is useful if you want beat zebetites and Tourian little bit faster.
I really wonder how Dragondarch can made lot very good SS runs. I like his 100% SS run because that run not includes any big mistakes, and he are crazy boy and he working on sub 55 SS run. My opinion this sounds impossible, because you not can have manipulate luck and SS you not can save or restart your game.
I think if you try made perfect SS run you made very easily some very stupid mistake, one example is: if you miss last shine spark on Chozodia escape. This one took almost 20 seconds your time and it is very bad mistake if you try made perfect SS run.
I not know are you good SS runner, i think you are pretty good SS runner because your SS time is 30.36 only 6 seconds slower than my segmented. I am pretty good segmented runner, but perfect single segments run nervous me so much.
I know Spidey widey you can beat current WR SS time very easily, because you are skillest any-% runner in the world. Because you have any-% WR time. You are better any-% runner than Transience.
Just that i mean when i said i am pretty worst SS runner. I nervous pretty easily and made very easily lot stupid mistakes. Example i can miss Super missile against Mecha very easily on SS run, just that is reason why i get 8 SM max.
WR is 1.27 by iamentjackie (sorry i not remember his name his account is hard write)
One reason why i not try improve that yet: My GBA is little bit broken, i think i not can made any very long run. My GBA go off without any reason. I need bought new GBA if i want try beat Dragondarch run.
I think i can complete sub 56 minutes run, but i am pretty sure i never ever can complete sub 55 minutes segmented run
Just i am pretty impatient man and this run took only 4 days.
Well I can actually beat Dragondarch 100% WR time on segmented. My best are 57.15 and maybe i can easily less my saves, i think 12 segment is good enought, my current run includes 14 saves.
Most SDA player working couple months, but my opinion it is very frustrating operation.
I think if you have enought patience you can improiving your run sub 28 pretty easily. My 30.30 any-% run took 4 days and my 10% Hard run took only 3 days to beat +each day i played for two-four hours almost same as you, yeah i not very patient. My only very long run was my Metroid Fusion 1% in 57 minutes. This one took almost two weeks to complete, but still i not made any perfect segments. I not never working any Zero mission runs two weeks or more.
GBA Sp and DS controls are horrible in my opinion.  :x
I have orginal GBA. :P
Your last escape was pretty worse actually it is 6 second slower than my best escape, but anyway your run was amazing job.
I like especially your second last segments and Ridley lair segment.
Congrats, your run looks insanes.
I finally watched Kridly run.
Sanoit että Super Metroid on valmis, mutta eihän sielä ollut vielä suomenkielistä valintaa.
Tuone pää sivulleko?
Minne sinä teet noita suomenoksia?
Jep niin n채kyy.
I hope you or somebody Echoes master try improve Kip hard mode low-% time.
Someday i want see new low-% Hard mode run, there are lot expert sequence breaker and very good Echoes player. I think Boost guardian or Quadraxis stoped my run because i am pretty medicore Echoes players.
Congrats, very nice work.
Your must be are very good sequence breaker, because no space jump sounds impossible in my opinion.
I think this is faster way on hard mode. Kridly get early expansion his new 100% hard mode run
EDIT: this is worst way on normal mode. i get that expansion before Tourian my 100% normal run, because it is little bit faster and easier way..
I not never tried that on normal mode, but i know it is harder, but i think not impossible.
I think your run was hard mode. There are only 1 ripper on hard mode, but this expansion is much harder get with normal mode, because there are 2 rippers, and 2 ripper made bomb jump couple times harder made.
go go go
Second best time in Finland. You need 4 minutes 13 seconds yet if you want beat my Finland records.
Very nice job Pege
Only expect: Kridly found couple very good trick in Ridley lair segment. I like his Ridley lair segment, because there are lot very good parts and strategys.
Dragondarch not use that route his 100% normal mode run and i use same route as Dragondarch. My opinion Dragondarch route are best possible 100% route.
It is pretty worst way on normal mode in my opinion, but not hard mode. I not sure is it any faster on hard mode but i think both way are as good.
Yeah i know. Can you read my wrote/reply again.
also suit Chozodia are slower because you not have screw attack.
I think if you use normal mode route with hard mode you can still improve ajbolt89 hard mode time, but you need much more refill lucky against Ridley and inside Tourian.
Is it ajbolt89 hard mode route any faster than regular normal mode route? I think horrizontal bomb jump over acid pool looks very hard and caused lot problem. My opinion both route are as good as.
My best Hard mode time are 35.52, i not have very much patience because Ridley drops 0 SM refill. Tourian segment was pretty good, but not perfect and i am slower than you.
Maybe you need more patience on hard mode. Metroids drops pretty randomly SM refills and second randomly part are Ridley. Ridley drops super missile refills pretty randomly, but if you have enought patience he can drop 2-SM refills and its good enought.
I think you can beat ajbolt89 time pretty easily, because his run looks slower than Transience any-% run and your any-% normal are much faster than Transience run.
What is your best Hard any-% time?
Spidey widey:
But i want say: i recommend you use more save than ajbolt89 because there are lot manipulate luck segment. I think your must be save game Tourian entrance because your must be get lot SM refills in tourian. I think ajbolt89 Tourian segment was pretty slow, because he not save game Tourian entrance.
I think 34.xx is possible my skill normal mode route on hard mode.
i use normal mode route on hard because i not can do that horrizontal bomb jump over acid pool, but still my run was surprised good, i lose only 1 minutes 52 seconds ajbolt89 hard mode and i made lot small mistakes.
Oh i hate that trick! :x
You are very good horrizontal bomb jumper, because i can do that 0% of the time and acid worm skip regular route 10% of the time.
Middle tourian save was maybe pretty uncessary, but it is very frustrating get multiple SM refills and missile refills fast enought. I think it is definitely faster if you use one save Tourian entrance and ajbolt89 not use that one.
I use 12 save my 35.52 hard mode run. I use 3 saves on tourian.  1 tourian entrance 2 save middle tourian and 3.save before barriers.
I think ajbolt89 use couple good saves, but he not use saves Tourian entrance. He use save before Ridley and complete Tourian same time.
ajbolt89 use only 2 savepoint on chozodia. One Chozodia entrance and second before Chozo guardian.
I think i not never tried sub 30 minutes run. 30.30 caused really much trouble for me. I think i never try sub 30 minutes run. Maybe hard mode any-% SS or 100% segmented interested just now.
I did my first any-% run almost one years 4 months ago.
54.xx 47.xx 44.xx 39.56 37.2x 36.1x 35.07 33.45 32.56 31.56 31.18 30.30
My runs:
Maybe someday near future i maybe can try sub 30 minutes run, but only if you made video your 28 or 27 minutes run. I  promise watch it and i maybe can try sub 30 minutes run, but just now this not interested me.
100% normal is definitely my favorite speed run, because you not need very much manipulate luck and there are not acidworm skip. Low-% is pretty fun speedrun because you not can complete super-perfect time.
Third reason is Tourian. Perfect tourian segment caused really much trouble for me.
Second reason is: i hate Acid worm skip segment. I hate acid worm skip and every time i made some stupid mistake on Kraid lair. This segment took 2 days complete.
5.56 Norfair first save after power grip.
Any-% run little bit frustrated me, because i hate first segment. Took almost two-three hours complete good first segment. My best time
GBA player made some point million times harder. Bomb jump are harder and shinespark are harder.
This not caused trouble for me when i played game on my GBA.
It is very hard only with GBA player.
Spidey widey i think if you try recorded your run your must be very skillful, because GBA player made game really much harder.
My best time SS is 33.53 (no worm skip)with regular gba.
My run was really suck ass, especially Mother brain i lose almost 45-50 sec against her because i miss two super missile and falling acid pool couple times. I think GBA player made game 50% harder than regular GBA.  My run was still very suck, because i choose wrong way couple times. I think normal any-% are pretty hard for me, because my last run are couple months old. Still my time was surprised good, because i made million mistakes and couple very big mistake.
My time Single segment normal with GBA player. 0.35.33 (no acid worm skip)
I ask one question: you said couple weeks ago you started run 9% normal SS are you complete that? and what is your time?
After when i died my SS hard mode run i started normal mode, but my time is so bad, i think my 33.53 is pretty good, but i think i can beat game sub 33 without acid worm skip pretty easily, but i am pretty worst SS runner.
Today i try skip early varia and early screw, but Ridley kill me. Who i hate that fight.
My previous Hard SS is 46.26. I get early varia and early screw and i not skip acid worm. Just i was so cautios man.
Today i started try Hard mode SS, but Ridley kill me. I not understand why, because i use my low-% strategy.
I think your skill you can easily complete sub 38 minutes hard SS run. I think you said you made horrizontal bomb jump over acid pool 50% of the time and it is good enought.
i think sub 40 is really good hard SS time. My best segmented are 35.52. I think if i not skip acid worm i lose two minutes and Tourian are impossible beat perfectly. I can still made sub 40 minutes hard SS run.
I think my 46 minutes run are pretty slow, but still good. I get early varia because all Tourian metroids kill instant hit without varia. I get early screw attack because Chozodia segment are easier complete fast enought. I get lot early expansions, because Tourian are so randomly and lucky part on SS run.
Hard any-% SS is pretty frustrating it is definitely harder than 15% normal SS run.
i am so lazy try that run because it is so long and frustrating.
1 Tourian last barrier 2 In Mother brain battle 3 Tourian escape 4 Tourian last metroid room
My die spots on 9% Normal SS
diagonal bomb jump is my favorite.
I love bomb jump, only expect are i not like bomb jump on GBA player, because it is so different.
One stupid mistake kill instant hit.
10% hard Mother brain is my opinion as hard as 9% normal. took same more tries. I think 0-3 tries, it is pretty randomly.
Long time ago when i was Zero mission master, i beat Mother brain 90 of the times on my 9% normal run, but i think my last low-% run are really old, 4-months or more.
Diagonal and infinite bomb jump are very easy for me only expect are GBA palyer made Infinite bomb jump almost 50% harder made.
I can do all bomb jumps, but just that horrizontal BJ over acid pool is too long travel for me.
But still good luck!
I think sub 33 is too easy for you. I think i recommend you: Try  sub 32 run. It is good enought. Your low-% run was insane. 46 minutes normal 9% is really darn good.
Good luck MR.X
You working 9% normal TAS how good time you try. My time on console are 43.40. Can you complete 9% normal sub 40 minutes on TAS.
i can made wall jump after bomb just like Transience and Kridly.
I not never tried that.
Pretty interesting
Hell yeah! :P  Sub 32 is not caused any problem for you. You said 46.xx is not insane 9% run. Try beat my 43.40. It is insane run.
41-40xx is lowest human time.
I like made segmented runs. I think my 43 is pretty darn good. I think someday i want try 41.xx 9% run.
I think low-% SS started frustrated me and everysingle times i made some stupid mistake.
Because i hate low-% SS run!
I am sure 42 minutes is easily possible because my 9% normal run are 10 months old. I not use all shortcuts. I miss couple Missile refills and i not never can beat game as fast as Spidey widey. I think 41 is very human possible 9% time. 40 maybe????, maybe not.
I not know, because 100% sub 56 interested just now.
0.06.01: Norfair first save. Pretty bad. I think 5.40 is possible, if you have insane skills.
My first segment was
If you try improve my time you need much better first segment.
My Robot ridley was insane i think it is really fast on 9% game, maybe lowset possible.
MR.X Mother brain battle are INSANE, his battle was almost 20 seconds better than my.
I think there are couple good ideas improve my 43 minutes time. Get every metroid 2 missile refills.
40.5x is sure lowest possible. I think sub 40 is not human possible time.
My first segment was pretty slow, i think it was only 3 seconds faster than ajbolt89 run, but his run was 10% hard and 2-missile made hive room couple times slower beat.
5.30 sounds insane. I use one chozo stautue recharge my run, because my opinion it is faster/easier get full missiles with chozo staute.
EDIT: 2 Third segment are complete, but i think i try that segment again, because my Imago cocoon battle was pretty medicore. Boss dies my time was 08.02 it is pretty good, but i miss 2-3 missile refills. I get 5 missile and 99 energy point on ridley lair save, because i can save 6 seconds before Ridley. It is very frustrating beat perfect Imago cocoon, because you need much refills and much lucky. Still i have 21 seconds ahead and my third segment was 5 seconds faster. I think i can improve 4-5 seconds if i can complete perfect Imago cocoon.
EDIT: Second segment are complete. I complete NO damage segment, and this segment was very short but belive or not it took 45 minutes complete. Just there are lot manipulate luck parts and irritating ripper wall jumps.
Spidey widey are right 5.3x is possible first segment time, but its must be very hard. I made some mistakes, but my segment was still very good.
I am little bit worry my GBA or Zero mission because it is old and maybe little bit broken because it go off without any reason. I started this run but i think it is very big risk.
FIRST SEGMENT: Looks helluva lot cooler than my previous. This was only 3 sec slower than Transience any-% WR run.
0.05.49 (11-sec ahead) [complete] 0.07.08 (16 sec ahead) [complete] 0.09.01 (21 sec ahead) [complete ?] (i try maybe save 5 sec)
First segment are done
I started run 9% run sub 42 minutes.
I am maybe pretty crazy, because my GBA or Zero mission are little bit broken or something, but i still want try that, because my best 9% run are over 8 months old.
Well 43.40 was very good, but yeah 42.xx is easily possible i think 41.xx if i have enought patience.
But anyway have sombody idea which are better segment? I think both are as fast as, because i think missile refills collection took almost 4 seconds game time.
My both Ridley fight was pretty darn fast, but yeah i was little bit nervous after Ridley i miss bug freeze jump my both run. I using bomb jump onto the freeze bug and this took little bit my time.
Save file 2 Time 10.50 (35 sec ahead) i have full 5 missile but only 82 energy point and this is 4 seconds slower than my best. I not lose time because i have full missile refills.
Save file 1 Time 10.46 (39 sec ahead) i have 0 missile but full energy max. I lose time if i picked up missile refills
EDIT: Ridley segment are done. But i not can choose which are better segment. Can somebody help me:
Next part are Ridley. Oh i hate that fight. It is pure luck 99% of the time. :|
This segment was pure nightmare. You need manipulate luck before boss and against boss and in Ridley lair spider room.
Took almost two hours improve three seconds. My Giant slug/imago cocoon battle was 4 seconds slower than my best Giant slug battle ever, but my Ridley lair part was amazing now.
Well Sement 3 are finally complete 08.58 before Ridley. (24 sec ahead)
I not know is it my gba broken or Zero mission. + i not can play another console because i hate SP and DS controls.
First segment is definintely longest in the 9% game, it is only almost 6 minutes segment. My next segment are pretty long but i like that because you not need much manipulate lucky.
Me too! i hate first segment so much. This caused lot trouble for me. I made two good tries and both tries i was so nervous and miss bomb jump on power grip pit. I finally made third good tries i finally complete first segment without any major mistakes my time was 5.49 it surprised me, because it looks like pretty much same as transience run.
Ok thanks i maybe try both 5 missile and 0 missile run, i think both are as fast as.
I try maybe both save files and watch which are faster. I think there are no major difference, but i think 0 missile run are 1-2 seconds faster, but i think it is lot harder.
Yeah my 5 missile save, i have 81 energys. Yeah you are right but i need only one energy refill and i not need picked up any missile refills. I think i lose only one seconds game time.
On norfair i´ve must be get all three refills because there are lot missile blocks this took almost 2-3 seconds.  (i think i lose almost 3-4 seconds game time)
I think i need one refill in ridley lair because there are one missile block. I´ve must be kill one bug and get refill. This took almost one seconds.
This not come too late. Thanks!
Yay sub 20 minutes in tourian sounds like crazy.
My KRaid segment was amazing it is 19 seconds faster than my previous run. IT JUST WAS AMAZING JOB. Kraid battle was nearly perfect took only about 30-40 seconds beat. Kraid died my game clock was 17.37. I made some mistakes after Kraid because  perfect kraid battle nervous me so much.
READ THIS: My save Tourian first save: 19.50 (1-minutes 7 sec ahead)
I really need lucky. THIS RUN FRUSTRATED ME SO SO MUCH! :x
Next segment are Kraid one hardest segment in the game. It was suck ass my previous run. I can improve easily 15 seconds or more.
My time was: 0.16.49 (48 sec ahead, only 2 seconds better than my previous run) i have 19 energy point and 5 missile on savepoints.
EDIT: 2 Acid worm segment are complete. This segment caused really much problem. I kill Acid worm maximal possible rounds. 2-3 refills per round. Last side hopper room caused lot problem. i using jump method, yeah i not kill or freeze any enemys. It is almost 20 seconds faster way, but really hard and irritating.
Segment 5 was pretty fast, i made 2-3 little mistakes. I think i not try that segment again becuase i maybe can improve that only 3 seconds. My segment 5 was 7 seconds faster than my last run.
If i beat game same skill than last time my posible time= 43.40 -46= 42.54. Hell yeah i need improve yet 55 sec because my objective are sub 42 minutes.
EDIT Segment 5 are done: 0.14.17 save before acid worm (46 sec ahead)
Congrats MR.X nice time. You beat my time easily because acid worm skip is very good shortcuts and you can do it. My acid worm skip is almost 10% of the time, i not never try that my SS run.
I copy my 10.46 0 missile run, because i think it was little bit faster than 5 missile run.
When i speedrun i use every time 2 save files Yehh i use copy.
I can wait you someday improve my Fusion 100% run. My time is 1.22 and it is over one years old.
Very nice 100% time Piccolo cube.
Of course 41 is possible yet but i need lot patience and lucky and most very insane segments.
It is very difficult try beat game sub 42 minutes. I think my possible goal is 42.30 if everythink works very well. I am pretty sure i never can improve my Robot ridley battle, because it was insane. My second best ending was 44.20 and best 43.40, just it was insane.
EDIT: All barriers are destroyed: 24.40 (1.32 minutes ahead) 99e 5m My barrier segment took total 1.42 minutes. It is really darn fast, i think my last time barrier segment took 2 minutes. I skip one save, i not save my game after third barrier. Last time i use that save and its took lot time.
Second metroid part caused problem, i lose one seconds here on my previous run. I miss about 5 missile refills in last metroid room, but i was lazy try that again, because this part took so much time beat fast enought.
My first Metroid part was amazing it is 10 sec better than my previous. I miss only one missile refills. all metroid gave 2 refills and all rinkas give one reffils. Only expect was last rinkas.
Last time my barrier segment was absolute perfects, i lose one seconds my previous run but its took almost one hour beat both barrier in 39 seconds. I think this was as perfect as last time.
Tourian middle: 21.16 (1.17 min ahead) Tourian end: 22.58 (1.16 min ahead 2 barrier destroyed: 23.37 (1.15 min ahead) 99 e 0m all barrier destroyed 24.40 (1.32 min ahead) 99 e 5m
Couple segments are done today
tdk good luck with your Fusion 1% SS run.
2: GBA player made game almost 30-50% harder beat. I need lot practice.
tdk: I not submit that run yet there i couple reason 1: All data technology are too complicate for me. Just i am so stupid. I need some very good friend how can help me if i want submit someday my run.
Now i scared: My GBA can broken or something bad happens. But look forward.
Last time i not using light room shortcuts on suitless samus part and i lose 9 seconds. Now i can complete that trick because i have more amount skill than last time. MR.X Mother brain battle was very insane part, maybe if i can beat this boss same skill than him, i can improve almost 20 seconds.
I am very surprised if i complete that sub 42 minutes. I not sure how good my Chozodia was, i think it was good, but my run are 8 months old and i think i have more amount skill now than last time.
I am 99% sure i not beat game sub 41 this time.
Two segment are left. If i complete game same skill than last time, my possible goal are: 0.41.50. I think its must be very hard, nearly impossible beat as fast robot ridley than last time. I can see that. Hopefully sub 42 minutes.
I made very good segment.  I made couple little mistake, but i beat fast Chozdo guardian fight. Boss diagrams appeared fast and i not miss any shots.
Chozdia suit Samus same save as Transience: 0.34.30 (1.50 min ahead)
I save my game middle Chozodia, because i not very good single wall jumper
Chozodia middle: 0.30.27
My MOther brain segment was 8 faster than previous run. I made 4 seconds mistake on escape. I falling down (1.10 time left) Actually i think i am little bit slower than MR.X. My method are different than MR.x method. I miss 1-2 refill and miss 2-3 missile against her eye.
Chozodia first save: 0.28.27 (1.40 min ahead)
Couple segment are done now
Is it japanesse version faster than USA versio? My opinion 38 SS was very well, perfects run.
Incredible works. AArgh i not can watch that yet, becuase i not have Mediaplayer.
32 SS no way.
WHAT HELL MY EYES CAN SEE!!
I think your and ajbolt89 method are faster, but i not can play your method.
My opinion my Mother brain was fast, not best possible but still fast. My normal goal are 4.30 and now this time it was 3.48. I have good refill luck and battle took long time beat fast enought. Actually my Mother brain battle was multiple seconds faster than ajbolt89 Hard 10% (4-missile route battle). There are not much difference than 9% normal battle.
I stand same platform as Mother brain and freeze and destroy rinkas and get lot refills and shot missiles her eye. I dodge his beam attack i going morph ball form.
My method is so much different than your.
Anyway it late now because i copy my game in Chozodia. I think i was very satisfied my 3.48 minutes MB segment, it was good on my method.
My opinion your method are harder than my own. I can beat boss your method but my fight are definitely slower. I think i beat boss your method 10-20% of the time and own method 85-90% of the time. It is too frustrating use your method and get much refills same time.
Ok guys! Next sub 40 minutes run.
Ok i really think sub 40 is humanly possible 9% time if you complete Mother brain segment sub 3 minutes and robot ridley 30 seconds faster and try have little bit more manipulate luck than me. But yeah i am not robot. New Super Metroid WR player is robot HEH!
I made one very good Robot ridley fight but i died chozodia escape because i made super stupid mistake. I think if i was complete that tries my goal was probably 41.30 but anyway, sub 42 minutes took two hour complete. My regular goal was everytime 42.10- 42.15, but finally i made 41.54 and i was very satisfied.
My Robot ridley segment was almost 15 sec slower than last time. I think i can get 41.30 if everything works very well. But still this fight are very randomly and hard beat fast.
I finally complete that run. I working one week and 2-4 hour per each day. :P
-16 segment (15 save)
Best time 9% Normal: 0.41.54
+Thanks your compliments Thomaz.
But now i get break and i maybe try someday improve little bit my Robot ridley battle and try get 41.4x run.
Hell yeah i miss couple refill in Tourian and i think Ridley and Kraid is possible beat little bit faster. It is theoretical very easily possible get 39.xx time.
This time my Robot ridley segment was 12 seconds slower than my 43.40 minutes run. I can get 41.3x ending screen now if i complete super perfect Robot ridley battle and escape.
I think if i can beat Mother brain segment sub 3 minutes i can save almost 1 minutes game time (i not understand how hell it is possible, but i belive it what MR.X said).
I not know can i never complete sub 40 minutes run, but it is theoretical possible. I know it is possible, but very difficult operation.
This is metroid2002. All impossible is possible here.
I think just 40-sec Mother brain segment and 25-30 seconds Mecha ridley segment. My possible goal can be 40.45. Of course i made some mistakes and miss couple refills and i use one uncessary save room middle suitless part. I think my first segment was little slow. Spidey widey said 5.3x is possible and my time was 5.49.
Yeah i can improve my Mother brain and Mecha ridley segment.
Pretty interesting game and darn hard.
SDA not includes Dragon lair speedrun video yet. I hope someday see that video. My clear tries took 4 deaths and all deaths i dieds against last boss. All level took lot practice first time.
Last boss are really fun. Took 3 day complete. Boss itself is not super hard, but if you lose your all lifes your game started in first level. One guy in gamefaqs said this fight are one hardest in the video game history.
TAS WR are 03.59 JPN versio. I think you not can beat game never as fast with USA versio because NTCS versio are much slower than JPN. Game normal clear time are 20 minutes.
Game are really hard and Dirk controls are super horribles. How many people are complete that game without cheats. I complete that game long time ago. I using USA emulator but i not use savestate and i not use slowdown and i not use any cheats. Belive or not game took almost three weeks complete and i working couple hours per day.
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How many people are played Nes game: Dragon lair
go go go MR:X
Heh! only 10 seconds. No problem you beat my time soon.
Try again and again. Maybe sub 32 is very possible with your skill.
Still your run looks much slower than my because you skip acid worm and it is almost two minutes faster way. I think sub 32 minutes is very good SS with worm skip.
Good job.
This was only 1 seconds slower segment than my 43.40 minutes run. My RObot ridley was almost 10 seconds better than ever.
Someday i think i try 41.3x ending. It is very easily possible. I am sure 41.2x ending is very possible if everything works. But today are very bad/unlucky day. This took almost 3 hours because all tries i made some stupid mistake on escape.
I was very cautions on escape becuase my Robot ridley was absolutely perfect second reason are: i have 0 missile after boss and rampage robot moved very slowly, without missiles. This took almost 5-7 seconds i think. I think i beat boss itself in 1 minutes.  I have very good refill luck and boss shots all laser upper corner.  My time: save before boss: 37.08    boss dies: 38.59. I really think battle itself took almost minutes, maybe less.
-My escape was 15 seconds slower than last time i have 2 reason why!
Best 9% time normal: 0.41.43
I improiving last segment 11 seconds
My finally total: This run was 2.05 minutes better than my previous. :P
-7 seconds better than previous ending. Finally everything works. Robot Ridley dies my clock was 38.58. I get almost full risk on escape. Only worst part was rampage robot, because i have 0 missile after boss. But i am 99% sure i not never try improve my ending time again. This was almost perfect for me.
EDIT: My finally time: 0.41.35
ajbolt89 segment was little bit faster, but he get SM refills and 1 SM= same as 6-7 missiles.
Yesterday i little exaggerate my Robot ridley battle. Battle itself took 1.05-1.07 minutes, but still very fast. Took two days and almost 6 hours complete as fast Robot ridley. It is very hard say can i beat ever faster boss fight, but maybe you can but only 0,000001% of the time.
I think i am very satisfied my run, still pretty disapointted my escape, because 41.27 is possible if i can get lowest possible escape and lowest possible boss fight. Just i was cowardly.
Now i must be say i not undestand your question. What you mean when you ask optimal? Sorry i not founded that word my dictionary.
Thanks your compliments.
EDIT: If you want beat game 39.xx you need next skills: 1: Your must be are as fast as Transience or Spidey widey 2: You need little bit more manipulate luck than me 3: You need as fast Mother brain battle as MR.X.
I not trying 9% SS because i not never have enought lucky complete that one. But my 9% segmented are really amazing run. Yeah 39.xx is theoretical possible. I think i can get maximal 40.xx run, but now i get long break, this run took one week and two days and almost 20 hours complete.
If you play 9%SS run this not very bad mistake if you choose wrong place against black pirates. Good NOTE: get out room and go back, but this not working on segmented run, because this took almost 20 seconds game time and it is REALLY BIG MISTAKE.
I think 9% SS run are really scared, because of course you made stupid mistake on escape or black pirates. I not never mess up my game against balck pirtes before this run and now i mess up two times my game aganist black pirates. Just if everything works it is sure you made some stupid, easy mistakes.
But finally fourth tries was almost perfectly everything works. I surprised this was 7 seconds better than my 43.40 minutes ending.
two times i mess up against black pirates, because i choosing wrong place. one time i not get enought risk on escape and third tries i died in first pirate room, because i get double hit with space pirate and i died.
Yeah. Escape is really easy mess up, if you have enought unlucky. I have 3-4 very good tries after 2 days and 7 hours.  Robot ridley is really difficult beat perfecly.
+Nice work Piccolocube. Very nice.   I not sure what 100% route you use. I think you use WR route. I am maybe wrong.
go go go Spidey widey
Good luck if you someday try beat sub 40 minutes 9% run. I help you little bit because i tell everysingle savepoints sub times, this made segments lot easier beat fast enought. But still this not easy operation, because i have very good manipulate luck and good skill. Your skill are still better than my, because i not can never complete sub 29 any-% run, but you can sub 28 minutes.
I think your must be have couple new speedtrick your any-% run. Your run was 40 sec better Than transience, this mean you improiving Transience time almost 10 seconds per segment. How many segment you use your any-% run? and can you tell your sub times in save rooms. I am curious =P~
This maybe stupid question but i am so curious.
Why i not can see my age my profile? Same problem Hunters friends codes not working here.
Oh i see your profile Friends code working. But why age are disapled? What is reason?
Maybe i can du it if you promise 1 million dollars. But 100 dollars is not enought yet.
His run was absolutely perfect.
Why you not can promise 1000000 usa dollars if somebody break kip 1.04 run.
Still Kip run is best possible. His run are old, but maybe Sparky have lot new tricks, yeah maybe he can improve that one. Without new tricks Kip run was almost perfectly.
But he not never complete that test run. Maybe sub hour is possible, but he maybe have lot new tricks. I wait his run. :-s
Sparky said long time ago he know he can beat kip run.
Heh first time here when i am wrong. anyway.
I am worst Chozodia player i need use this save on middle chozodia because my single wall jump are sometimes pretty unstable.
TAS runner said this is little bit more faster, than vertical bomb jump. Your first segment was extreme good. Transience time was 5.45 when his push start button. My best are 5.49 on my 9% run. I thin i made lot little mistake +energy recharge took 6 seconds on 9% run.
Couple TAS trick are very difficult made. Did you diagonal bomb jump on power grip pit?
Green rinkas not drop easily super missile refills. I made almost 1-2 minutes pure mistake when i try get two SM refill my 100% Hard mode SS run. Red rinkas drops SM refill very rarery, i think almost 0.5% of the time. Greenrinkas, almost 15-20% of the time. I have very bad lucky my 100% Hard mode SS run. I kill almost 50 rinkas red and green but still any rinkas not drop any SM refills.
Chozo guy is very randomly boss. This is one reason why i use savepoint in Chozodia suitless part. This not big trouble beat boss without miss shots, but problem is how fast boss diagrams appears. You can easily lose 10 seconds if boss diagrams appeared slow enought. Kridly run his diagrams appeared pretty slow, i think somebody can save easily 5-7 seconds game time. My 100% run i use save middle suitless part and after Chozo boss.
But this was very good SS run on my SS route. It is almost 2 minutes slower than WR route because this run not includes crazy acid worm skip.
I not miss any shinespark only expect was: i not trying stopped my shinespark on the edge on Chozdia escape.
I not made any major mistake all boss battle looks very good. No miss shots against Chozo boss. My Chozodia suit part was pretty slow and i was too cautions because i get 8 SM max. I not using light room shortcuts on suitless part, because if  i miss that my game is over instantly. Too big risk.
- I think if i can made acid worm skip my possible SS goal was 31.xx. 31.xx sounds very good, but 33 not sounds good
-18 seconds better than my previous -No acid worm skip -65 m 8 sm 4 et
My New single segment time: 0.33.35
Good luck with you. I am sure you can get 27 minutes run.
28.04 sounds insane good. Huh!
EDIT: Thomaz i was pretty surprised when you try speedrun 100% run. You said you have trouble made double bomb jump. I think double bomb jump is extremely useful here. 22 minutes before screw attack is good especially if you have trouble made double bomb jump. My time was 18.58 on my 57.15 minutes run. If you play same skill as me, you can get 1.00 minutes run.
I made one bad mess up because i get map computer hit. I think its took almost 8 seconds. Second really bad mess up was in Chozodia suit part, i made almost 8 seconds pure mistake here because i have trouble pass one spacepirate.. But still my run was pretty clean, because there are many good parts and good boss fights. If everything working and i get lot risk, i can get 32 minutes with Acid worm route. It is almost same as 30 minutes with acid worm skip route.
I have 65 missile. I get Ridley lair missile expansion same room as first SM expansion. This took almost 5 seconds game time. +Because i use Acid worm route i get 2 more M expansions +energy tanks.
I get 8 SM max. i Get one more SM expansion in Chozodia. It is good because i missed once again SM against Mecha ridley. This not first time for me. I use enegy recharge in Chozodia suitless part. It was uncessary this time, because i not lose any energy points here. I was bit cautions.
I get energy tanks 1-same as Transience 2 Before Ridley, because boss is randomly and kill 50% of the time if i have 1 energy tank 3 Same as Transience 4 Before Acid worm
Thanks compliments guys.
My opinion better idea is: You can use all speedtrick for example single wall jump and bomb jump on power grip pit, but you not can use any shortcuts and not get any early items.
Hard say what are real rules if you speedrun natural route run. What rules Zoid use his 1.30 natural route run on Prime? I think his use speedtricks.
But my opinion it is borning if you not can du any speedtricks for example bomb jump on power grip pit or single wall jump.
I think this interesting speedrun game with natural route.
I complete my 100% run before Kridly 100% Hard run. I think i found most good way improve my time very easily sub 57 and i think sub 56, but i am lazy started that again. Because i working that run pretty long time.
I not never break that block with shinespark before Hi jump my 100% run. I use every time that wall jump trick. My opinion it is easier than shine spark stopped trick and break that block with shinespark.
Maybe my rules was little bit wrong, because this bomb jump on Norfair room i not know is it wrong use that. Is it wrong use suitless samus shortcuts? I not uses suitless samus shortcuts, because i thin it is wrong. Is it wrong use right side route in Ridley lair? I use left side route, but right side route are faster, but is it wrong use that?
I think i try good run next time, maybe single segment, but before that i want know real rules!
This run was pure joke. I can get sub 40 very easily. I think 37 is easily possible with natural route.
1 i not use any suitless samus shortcuts. 2 i uses natuaral route, i not get any early item + i use all Chozdo map statues.
1: i uses bomb jump on power grip pit 2 i uses last shine spark shortcuts on Chozodia escape 3 i uses bomb jump in one room on Norfair, i not know is it wrong use that trick on natural route.
I not use any shortcuts, but i uses speedtrick. My biggest mess up was Hornet battle. I not have enought missile against him. Just i forget missile recharge in Norfair.
This run was suck ass.   Sub 40 is very easily possible. I choose wrong way couple times, i use lot save, because this route was very weird for me. My run includes full amonut little mistakes and quite much big mistakes.  Took only two hours beat that run.
EDIT: NAtural route time: 0.44.37
Last time i beat game with Natural route over 2 years ago.
I think i can very easily get sub hour run. I not know is it much faster or slower than 100% Sbreak run. But i want try that someday.
Just that interesting. This mean i´ve must be complete Hornet battle and get SM expansion his room. After long beam i´ve must be get out here with natural route.
I recommend you not get that early SM and M if you speedrun normal mode.
It is faster hard mode, because you can beat faster, Ridley and Hornet battle. Normal mode it is pretty much same get that expansions later game, because you have enought SM against Ridley and Hornet.
2 Kridly route is maybe better route with Hard mode route but I think DD route is better normal mode route. Kridly get early SM expansion and M-expansion, DD get that later game. I use same route as DD.
Your questions: my answers. Hopefully you undesrstand what i mean 1 You mean that screw attack part. I think i not never tried that can i save that shine spark. I think it is not human way. Enemys stoped shine spark very easily and it is maybe human impossible. Kridly and me not use that trick, i think it is impossible.
29.02 is very good before Ridley my time was 25.21.
Load full charge before map station room. Release speed booster first and release Charge when you going to map station room. Now jump normal jump and break block in the next room.
Map station skip is not too hard, i think actually pretty easy.
Good luck i think you can get sub 1.05 run yet if you play fast enought. I not sure what route you use, i use just same as DD, maybe i uses little bit different method than DD, but anyway, it is almost same as his route.
Just i have early Charge beam my run, because that shine is very difficult made first tries after Kraid battle, i skip that shine spark because i can do it almost 25% of the time and perfect Kraid battle in 5-10 seconds took lot time to beat. Yeah it is maybe almost 6 seconds faster method use that shine before Norfair in my opinion.
1 I get one missile expansion in brinstar before Tourian. This is faster way on Normal. 2 I think it is faster if you get Norfair early SM and M expansion later game, after Chozodia. Just like Dragondarch. Lava bomb jump took maybe too much time, space jump is faster method.
Kridly route is not best possible normal route. I change couple place.
go go go.
I see you are practice made double bomb jump. You said couple days ago this caused trouble for you.
I think you get early SM and M expansion in Norfair after screw attack i think if you use same route as me you time before Ridley can 26.xx minutes.
Sounds very good. I really belive you can get sub hour run this time, because my time was 25.21. and your only 3 minutes slower
How much Zoid use shortcuts his MPRIME natural route run? His must be use lot speedtricks.
It is very hard define natural route rules. I not any sure how much i can use speedtrick and shortcuts. What are real rules. My run is still pretty natural, i not skip anything, maybe use too much speedtricks. I not skip any natural items. I get all items with natural way.
35 no way. There are too much difference than any-% SBreak run. It is true you can complete faster Chozodia suit part and escape. I think you can still get 37-38 minutes run. How knows you are crazy enought.
I think you beat my time someday, not this time but someday. I am glad because my run still looks almost 30 seconds better than DD WR SS time. Only expect was because i use 14 saves.
Hard mode route was little bit difference i use pretty much same route as Kridly.
Normal: 0.29.34 (57.15 run) Hard:  0.32.58 (1.02.16 run)
My time was
32 is very good time in Tourian. Sub hour is theoretical possible yet, but your must be vey fast. I not sure get you that early expansions in Norfair. If you get early expansions sub hour is very possible yet.
57 seconds is new informal WR by me. My time is maybe 56, but i not sure is it very high 56 or very low 57 seconds, but still i have informal WR.
If somebody found faster way beat Black pirates faster 4.05 time left is humanly possible. But my route 56 seconds is lowest possible. My escape was superb almost 10 second better than Kridly run escape.
4.04 is easily possible, but this took almost hour get 57 seconds escape. I miss shine spark stopped trick 65% all tries and Black pirates are really frustrating beat perfectly.
4.03 time left. (My time was maybe 4.04) time left but i not sure it is 4.04.01 or 4.03.90, but still very good 57 seconds.
EDIT: Best Chozodia escape: 57 seconds (4.03 time left probably 4.04?)
It is long way get that. My time was 58.70 (4.02.3x time left)
I just made new Chozodia escape time. It was very good, i try get 57 seconds escape, because if i can made that it is new WR records. 58 is as good as ajbolt89 best escape. I think i made almost one second mistake here. 4.03 time left is absolutely lowest possible.
Best Chozodia escape: 58 seconds (4.02 time left)
Nice Thomaz. I think if you can get 1.05 run it is really good. Good luck once again.
Still i see there are some faster strategy beat Black pirates 1-2 seconds faster. I not founded that, but i really think it is possible.
Extremely well time. Finally 4.04 time left. That was superb, everything works.
Best Chozodia escape: 56 seconds (4.04 time left)
Finally time
Ok Spidey widey try beat that. I think you not can get 4.05 if you not found faster way against pirates.
GET OUT FIRST PIRATE ROOM: 43.XX GET OUT SECOND PIRATE ROOM: 38.XX GET OUT PULSE BOMB ROOM: 34.XX GET OUT THIRD PIRATE ROOM: 32.7-8.X GET OUT SHINE SPARK RAMAPAGE ROBOT ROOM: 24.XX GET OUT SHORTCUTS ROOM WITH MORPH BALL S-PARK: 18.XX GO SHIP (CLOCK DISAPPEAR): 04.1X
GET OUT R-RIDLEY ROOM: 59.6X GET OUT NEXT ROOM: 57.1X GET OUT NEXT ROOM: XX.XX GET OUT NEXT ROOM: XX.XX
My escape was absolutely perfect, only way get better is if you found faster way beat Black pirates. My sub times
I not know can you avoid that pirate jump. My opinion it is impossible on console.
I load full charge and jump down stair and same time i blast full charge shots and many normal wave beam shots on Right side pirate head. I open regular fire against left side pirate and same time right side pirate died. But left side pirate jump one time very high part on the room and i lose it screen and lose escape time at least seconds.
My pirate strategy is different than TAS. My strategy is:
Yeah i am watched TAS video, looks crazy just like all TAS.
I am sure you beat 9% run, you are definitely better Zero mission player than my little brother. Little brohter are complete game one time normal any-% one time hard any-% and one time 9% normal.
His time was suck almost 3 hours, but i think you can get sub hours 9% run pretty easily.
I recommend you try next 9% normal run, not too hard. My little brother beat that and it was his third goal in the game.
I use different method in Crateria. I not use wall jump shine spark combination, because it is harder than DD strtegy. DD and me use diagonal shine spark jump. I not know is it any faster or slower.
My 100% SS time is 1.00.11, but i am lazy try that again, because everything works only expect was one pulse bombu stoped my shine spark jump 5-7 times ( i lose almost 2 minutes, my SS goal had been 58.xx but anyway).
Man you need more patience.   Try made every single trick in first tries just like me or Dragondarch. Expect Dragondarch made all trick first tries on single segment. He are crazy
EDIT: Spidey widey I know that  but it is pure lucky. My best was 59.7x, but it is very rarery.
Kridly final segment is not best possible, only slow part his run. His Robot ridley was pretty good but not perfect. I can beat almost 10 seconds better escape than  KRidly. I not sure how much he have time left, but i know it is sub 4 minutes (3.55 something) I can get 4.02 very easily, if i can avoid all major mistakes.
IT IS VERY HARD!!!
Good luck Spidey widey, i know you maybe can get it, but my time is 4.04.1x You need almost one second better than me.
I coming back sunday. Bye bye and good luck.
Just it is same thing play you normal or hard mode.
Escape not includes any difference normal than hard. I have 5 energy tank max my normal escape.
My 4.04 time left is damn good in my opinion, i made it only one time and i was very satisfied.
Nice escape Spidey widey. 4.01 time left is pretty regular goal with me.
There are way get sub hour run, but it is very difficult operation, my 57 minutes 1% run took almost two weeks and multiple hours  complete.
Congrats, sounds good especially if it your first 1% time.
I think 48 minutes any-% SS run are much easier complete than 53 minutes 1% SS. Seriously man you are crazy.
1% game is almost 75% harder speedrun than any-%. I think if you try 53 minutes 1% SS you beat same time Kridly any-% WR time.
Couple boss fights was little bit slow, but still his SS run was one best SS ever.
53 minutes 1% SS sound impossible. Kridly any-% SS is 51 minutes and his run was absolutely very good. He have very good eye door luck and almost everythink working
Ok i wait.
Can you really break my time?
Very nice. Made you big mistake against pirates?
My opinion Wassup dawgs Nettori strategy not working me. I not know why, but its not working. I not know is it much faster than Kridly method.
My Nettori method is same as Kridly run. 1% game i found pretty good strategy his laser form. I use Triple beam shots because this caused much damage against boss.
My time was 4.38.8x (maybe?) You was almost 0.40 seconds faster than me. It is very good. I really think you can get 4.05 but i think not 4.06 time yet. But i can see, maybe someday future if you have faster method against pirates.
Next 4.05 run, maybe only theoretical possible. I hope you recorded that escape if you can get it. I think sda want escape runs there are M-Prime escape run. Maybe you can recorded that escape, if you can get 4.05.
This not surprised me, because you have incredible Zero mission skills. Congrats.
Ok man you beat my time 0.20 seconds. My goal was 4.04.1x.
I watch couple youtube.com videos, but there not enought information because there are only few very short videos.
Is it better than Snes game Secret of mana? I think not as good because Snes Secret of mana is maybe one best Snes role playing ever in my opinion.
Is it great game and is it hard or easy? And how long this game are?
Europa release date are 2007(maybe?) I think Usa release date are before europa. I think somebody here are played that game.
Are you anybody played DS game Children of mana?
youtube not includes good enought more videos yet, because i think game is very new or pretty rarery in the world.
I think i buy that game when it released in Europe. But maybe i must be wait long time. I think it is great game, because i liked Orginal Secret of Mana so much.
+I found couple reviews in gamefaqs. Peoples gives pretty good scores: 6-8 point.
Thanks.
Transience get 29 sec escape and my best is same as Kridly run (30 seconds). Took lot tries get 30 seconds escape, because my regular goal are 1.28-1.29 time left when timer disappear. Have you some new trick here, because 1.33 time left sounds humanly impossible. Transience (1.31 time left) escape looks absolutely perfectly in my opinion.
Spidey widey your Tourian escape was incredible, i not can understand how you can get 27 seconds escape, seriously?
Maybe you can break it. I think your is easier run if you use 8-10 segment, i think if you less save points it is much harder if you not have insane any-% skill. I not have good any-% skills it was one reason why i use 8 saves.
Thomaz, i can help you your any-% run. There are my sub times my 30.30 run. It was 9 segments run.
EDIT 2 I have question. If you get one expansion it took 3 seconds game time. Is it better if you skip one enrgy tank in Brinstar and Charge beam? You can save 6 seconds game time. Game is pretty much harder without Charge beam, probably slower. My opinion one enregy tank is enought, only expect Ridley lair. I not know is it Charge skip any faster. Maybe you can save some times in Chozodia and Ridley lair if you have charge and 2 e-tank max.
EDIT: i see you deleted your post, but not worry i answer you questions. I hope it help you.
You need very good reflex. Lay bomb push fast unmorph button and wall jump button.
This lay bomb and unmorph trick are darn hard. I never use that trick my speedrun, because it save time almost only one seconds, pretty uncessarty trick and too hard, if you not try insane perfect run, just like Spidey Widey. I can made that almost 10-% of the time.
My time before i get first missile is sometimes 1.04-1.07, it is pretty randomly per tries because enemys located every time different place. I think Spidey Widey can little bit more faster than me.
Really save it time if you not use wall jump method on MB escape? I never use left or right wall wall jump here. I use same method as you, but still i do something wrong because i lose your time multiple seconds.
Just it very hard skip that energy tank, just that is one reason why i use chozo energy/missile recharge my 9% run. Second reason is because i am pretty impatient get enought missile refills with enemys. But it is good thing you not need missile refill luck on any-% run.
Before second hive i jumping always down, because it is very hard kill that hive without falling. TAS player not falling here, this save game time at least 5 seconds.
I think you have better method in hive room, because you can get almost 20 seconds better first sgment than me. Falling you down here, just like Tranisience?
I think my any-% run are almost half year old, i complete that run in juny. I have more skill now than half year ago, but i am lazy started run again this run. But i look forward if i someday have enought interesting try sub 30 minutes run.
ajbolt89 last segment (30.22 min run) was insane, it is 2 seconds better than Transience run last segment. ajbolt89 not made any big mistake, here. I made almost 20 seconds slower segment than ajbolt89, i not understand why, because my opinion my last segment was good.
Congrats Thomaz. I see your last segment was little slow, but try again. I think you really can get 30-40 seconds better last segment. I not remember how fast my last segment was. But i think it was little slow, because i have almost 10 seconds ahead in last save, but i still lose 8 seconds his (ajbolt89) time.
Man you can complete last segment faster than me.  But if you are as fast as ajbolt your possible goal are 31.40.
If you beat last segment as fast as me, your goal is 31.58.
Seriously i can get 56-57 minutes SS run if everything works. But no!!!   I never have enought luck get sub hour SS run. Dragondarch are robot. But i can theoretical get pretty much same time if i not made very stupid and easy mistakes my SS run.
My run includes many very good part. I have good Kraid lair part and excellent Ridley lair part. I have good luck with bosses and mini bosses.
One room in Brinstar took almost 35 second pure mistake, i have trouble made bomb jump here.
I miss last energy tank horrizontal shine spark trick, oh i hate that trick on SS run.
I miss one time tourian shine spark jump, there are irritating missile expansion and pretty hard shine spark jump. I made one very horrible mistake one Chozodia room, before Chozodia first energy tank.
My last escape was suck ass i miss shine spark stop trick 2 times and + i miss last shine spark shortcuts, i lose 25 seconds on escape, but still i not beaten my previous run, because it is 1.00.11.
JUst i complete 100% SS but i not get records, my time was 1.01.01 almost minutes slower than last time. I miss too much shine spark. But this time pulse bombu part super jump not caused trouble.
Yeah i try get sub hour run if i have enought motivations. I hate started 100% SS run, because it is 1 hours 30 minutes run.  But yeah i think 59 is still pretty bad time. 58 is good 100% SS time in my opinion. But if i someday can get 59 minutes run i am very satisfied man.
My last time i have very much unlucky pulse bombu room, i lose 1-2 minutes, but know this time i made that super jump first tries.  I check my time before Ridley it was 26.3x. And tourian my time was 30.xx.
I know that was suck. There are 4 minutes pure mistakes. I miss too much shine sparks. My 57.15 looks 55.40 minutes SS run
But 59 run is theoretical very easy get. You still can get very much little mistakes and couple big mistakes.
Ridley lair rooms caused every time trouble, but today i first time my life on SS run i complete all Ridley lair rooms first tries.
Yeah. Someday i want have enought lucky. My 1.00.11 run looks 58.xx run, always i have unlucky. Escpecially last horrizontal shinespark is really irritating, because this took almost 15 seconds game time and it is very easy mess up. One bad place are pulse bombu room. Third scared place are first energy tank in Chozodia, i miss taht this time.
Post your own top mistakes in this topic.
I really think someday i update more my BAD luck list. I not have 10 very big mistakes yet, but someday i have.  I know it.
6: When i speedrun Super Metroid, and i was complete Ridley. Next time when i turn ON my console my all save file was erased without any reasons. This not irritate now because this run was still pretty suck ass.
5: Two times i miss two absolutely perfect tries against black pirates, my 9% segmented run, because i choosing wrong place both tries. It is very difficult beat Robot ridley in 1.05 minutes, and both tries i miss my game against black pirates, and this is one easiest place in Chozodia escape.
4: When i played 9% SS run Zero mission i died Tourian escape, because i was too nervous here.
3: When i played 100% SS run on Zero mission almost everything works perfectly. I not mess up any shine spark, but one Pulse bombu room in Chozodia took almost 1-2 minutes, because when i trying jump super jump, pulse bombu stoped my shine spark almost 5-7 times.  I lose 1-2 minutes and my clear time was 1.00.11. I think 58 without pulse bombu room mistakes.
2: I played Zero mission any-% SS run and i have almost 2 minutes ahead my previous run. My GBA batterys end in Chozodia escape, before black pirates and i failure my run instantly.
1: Metroid Fusion. I played 100% segmented run, and just i have 7 minutes ahead my previous run. Just before finnish line i see i forget one very important expansion. I was forget copy my game and i failure my run instantly.
How much you have unlucky when you speedrun? Ok i started this topic, there is my very bad mistakes ever.
What is your TOP 1-10 biggest mistakes on speedruns?
But i am very satisfied. I think i never ever try that again. This run was hell, pure hell. But Ok guys if somebody beat my time it is extremely good accomplishment.
Of course my run includes lot little mistake and i not get huge risk, just like Dragondarch.
Finally everything working almost perfectly. Run includes only one major mistake in Ridley lair. One missile expansion room, i falling down and i must be get out here and back. Took almost 15 seconds, but anyway it was only big mistake in my run. Of course Mother brain was slow, because i falling acid pool 2-3 times, but yeah i not miss any shinespark, first time my life.
Best 100% single segment: 0.59.07
JES!!!!!
Snes is very old console, maybe it is one reason. It is very irritating speedrun SNES games on segmented, because all save file erased very easily.
Pretty weird. This not first time for me. I lose one time one save file on DKC and one time i lose one save file on Sim city and one time i i lose all save file on SM all star and one time i lose all save file on Super Metroid. Total 4 times.
I see most people lost all SNES save files, without any reason.
100% route are pretty darn hard beat without any dying. ESPECIALLY SINGLE SEGMENT.
Somebody can beat my time easily, but still this took lot practice. I have good 100% skills.
go go go guys.
Thanks your compliments. I think i am pretty tired try again that run. Still there are many way get much better run, but only theoretical, if you not have robot skill or robot luck, just like Dragondarch.
Oh i deleted my post, because double post is wrong here. I hate edit system.
I wait your run and probably your escape run if you ever complete 4.05 time left. I know it is extremely difficult, because i have really trouble get 4.04.1x escape  and still i need 0.90 seconds if  i want get 55 seconds escape.
Thanks compliments Spidey Widey.
Next weekend i think i started speedrun 100% game. I try maybe sub 1.20 run.
Yeah i can du almost all Super Metroid trick now, but still not all trick yet. I not can made any glitch because i am very worst glitch player. Gravity jump not working and Mother brain barrier glitch is impossible for me.
I practice quick charge trick and it working PAL as good as NTCS verisio. Quick charge trick was very easy. There are still some difference PAL and NTCS, because PAL versio doors open slower and it made some shine spark jumps impossible complete example one room in Norfair down stair.
I practice some trick i practice spikey boost trick. Spikey boost trick is easy, but enemy boost trick is impossible for me. I not understand why spikey boost is lot easier than enemy boost.
Still i get lot early items and i use lot WR trick. I get early X-ray scope. It is pretty tought trick, but not too hard.
It was surprised fast, because i use lot X-ray scope and i use 2 visit on Wrecked ship and 3-4 visit Maridia and multiple visit Brinstar. Just i  forget many times get items
100% item: clear time 2.10,
I collect all 100% item second time my life. Last time i collect 100% item almost 5-7 year ago. I not speedrun that, because i have trouble find all items again after couple years. I watch Scarlet video almost year ago, anyway. My time was
This weekend was funny i played multiple hours Super Metroid. Nice game.
I seriously can belive i can get 1.20 maybe under my glitchless run. WR by Somkey is 1.05 his glitchless run. I surprised my item collection test time was 2.10 i really surprised, because i think it is 4-5 hours, but sub 2 hours is very easily beat without speedrunning.
But i try remember her route, but it is pretty hard because i watch that video almost year ago,
Very annoying try speedrun, because i not any sure what is Red scarlet route, my any videos not working. I erased Windows media player and now i have Nero media player, but still SDA videos not working here, still i can hear music my computer expect  in internet music not working.
Next i practice crystal flash trick, i need that my 100% speedrun. I try use Scarlet route, but i change that little, bit. I not try get early springin ball.
Mother brain glitch is importan, but i not can du any glitch i practice lot that glitch and i practice lot early springin ball glitch, but no way.
Sub hour is easy way. My best time is 59 minutes, it is worst, because it is old and when i complete that i not using quick charge trick and i have real trouble made many trick. Quick charge is very importan before wrecked ship, but it is very possible beat without quick charge, but it is 85% harder way.
Oh sorry Scarlet, it is hard remember your gender, because you are only female speedrunner here.
Most people recommend VLC, but is it still lot different. Nero and windows mediaplayer working very good my previous computer.
Now i can made double bomb jump very easily.
You need lot practice first time, it is very difficult advice. But watch ajbolt89 video maybe it help you. I know you need lot practice. I practice long time that.
If you try made double bomb jump your must be everytime put one bomb UP screen. now Samus get more height per bomb.
There are some method made infinite bomb jump:
Double bomb jumps is very difficult advice.
But still congrats.
Same time as me. I have same trouble i choose wrong way couple times and i have much trouble here (read my comments). I know there are way get sub 40 minutes run very easily. Just i have trouble define how many speedtrick i can use and how many shortcuts i can use. I not know how much you use shortcuts and how you define your natural route.
It took many rounds get good 100% SS. I KNOW!!!
Me too use one recharge too much my 100% SS sub hour run, but i use this recharge in Norfair, because i have too low energy here. One room caused lot trouble because i falling two times lave pool, that was reason why i use that energy recharge.
Can you now made double bomb jump?
Nice nice.
Trust me it is better method if you use horrizontal shinespark here.
NOTE: THOMAZ: not next time use Space jump method on Tourian. I use horrizontal shinespark jump. This is two seconds slower way get that expansion, but it is 85% easier.
Nice time. I think you can get 1.03 very easily, if you have enought lucky next time. Yeah it is biggest trouble complete 100% SS without any major/horrible mistakes. My 59.07 SS run includes almost 3.30 minutes pure mistakes, but i not made any major mistakes expect one room in Ridley lair. IT is lucky day if you can avoid all big mistakes here
Maybe you need practice that trick, But don,t worry five tries is good. I have everytime huge trouble made Acid worm skip. Took at least 5 tries, sometimes 100 tries. My opinion it trick is 100% pure lucky. Actually i can beat Robot ridley easier in 10% Hard mode than made Acid worm skip on any-% run.
Acid worm route took 2 minutes or less +you can catch two more missile expansion  (made Tourian segment faster). If you not skip Acid worm i am pretty sure you can complete game 34.xx.
I recommend not next time try Acid worm skip, because if you mess up it 2 times or more, it is slower way.
Super Metroid is definitely hardest 2d metoid to speedrun. Red scarlet is super lady WHOA!
I watch Red scarlet video before speedrun, i found her video on youtube. Next time i try sub 1.20 run. I can get sub 1.20 very easily because my run looks pretty horrible.
I using Red Scarlet route, only expect was early energy tank in Wrecked ship. It is too hard get without gravity suit, because i have only 80 energy point after Phantoom. Last time i said i not try early springin ball glitch, but i practice that before my run and now i can du that pretty easily, but it is still pretty hard. I miss that one time in my run and it took multiple restart made that glitch fast enought.
I finally complete my first 100% run on Super Metroid. There are very much mistakes and saves because that was my first 100% run.
Best 100% time: 1.25
I little bit wonder when you said you not never beat Robot Ridley on 10% Hard mode. Because you have extremely good Zero mission skills and Robot Ridley is not too hard. I think actually pretty easy. Of course its took lot deaths. 10 or sometimes more deaths but i can everytime beat that fight without any big trouble.
Robot ridley drop 0-2 SM refill per tries, it is possible beat faster and battle is lot easier if you have enought lucky.
My opinion SM route is harder speedrun than 4 missile route. My opinion Ridley is harder, Kraid is harder and Tourian metroid part is harder. Chozodia suit part is little bit harder. 4 missile route is easier speedrun, but SM route is almost minutes faster, but i think i not never can beat my 4 missile route time on SM route.
You are super man you not never falling her lava pool. This is my regular mistake here and this kill me sometimes instantly. Lava pool is very dangerous place and it drain your energys very fast.
Can you really beat Mother brain 100% of the time? I can actually 75-85% of the time and 10% hard mode probably 65-75% of the time i not see much difference here. Is it true you never lose your live her chamber?
Good luck and no problem. You beat that, i am 100% sure.
I not know working that my idea, but comments please!
This is hard categorie because after death you have only 30 energy point, you need energy tank or something, but i am sure it made some spots much faster beat.  Game is possible beat faster than Mycatsuck run and this is new categorie.
EXAMBLE: If you get first missile expansion you made suicide after you get that. Now game started Brinstar entrance and you have that missile expansion.
I planned is it possible made with Death single segment run. You made couple suicide.
Is it possible made new different speedrun categorie in the game? Red Scarlet and Mycatsuck run was single segment run and there are no deaths.
I really need varia suit because i never beat this game without varia suit and only 3-4 energy tank max. I have Zero mission versio Ridley is much harder with GBA Zero mission versio than Prime versio. Prime versio includes savespot in Ridley room but gba versio not and it is reason why i need varia suit because you lose energys automatically because you not can dodge Ridley attack on GBA Zero mission versio.
I not like speedrun that game, because this is crazy game, really difficult speedrun. Took most deaths complete that game. Just i practice yesterday that game. Early varia suit is very difficult trick took almost 10 minutes get that without hi jump.
SDA not includes death abuse video yet. I think it is probably harder than single segment run because just what i already said if you death you have only 30 energy point. Maybe this categorie is easier complete TAS run than console. Probably i want someday try that speedrun, probably not, but before that i need lot practice.
Just it is death abuse categorie.
Too big risk complete SS run because it is pretty crazy.
I died Ridley 10% of the time I died Tourian metroid part: 50% of the time I died Tourian barrier part: 20% of the time I died Mother brain: 25% of the time I died Tourian escape: 0.1% of time (one time my life) I died Chozodia suitless part: 60% of the time I died Chozodia suit part: 50% of the time I died against Mecha ridley: 75% of the time I died escape: 5% of the time I died Black pirates: 10% of the time (i choose wrong place)
Too frustrating me, i have trouble complete 9% SS because i died easily next spots:
Your only problem is Mecha Ridley, but dont worry about. It is you only problem and probably took couple deaths if you try 9% SS run. But i can see you probably complete this one if you have patience started game again when you died against Robot ridley.
It is only reason why i death sometimes against boss and if i not falling lava pool i beat NO DAMAGE boss very easily and just it is reason why i not see 9% normal boss harder than 10% hard mode boss. My strategy is probably different and rinkas not caused any problem for me.
Spidey Widey try 9% SS normal run next, if you really can beat Mother Brain 100% of the time, it sounds crazy, because i made easily one stupid mistake here, example i falling lava pool.
Yeah double bomb jumping made game faster, probably one minutes total on 100%. Good Thomaz.
You understand wrong. I meaning sda not includes Nes Metroid death abuse video yet
Dragondarch time is only time what i can du beat pretty easily if i have enought motivations/patience try that. I practice that and probably try beat that before Dragondarch.
I think kraid lair is possible beat faster now. +Last time my two first segemt was little bit too slow, I think Chozodia suitless part was slow because i use that energy racharge. Last segement was pretty good but there are still almost 15 seconds pure mistakes.
Kridly run help me so much there are much new trick, Kridly not use that bomb jump method what i planned.
I have interested try 100% run WR. I practice most new trick. There are possible made faster bomb jump. Jump air and put bomb and jump bomb when it explorer, just like ajbolt89. Trick is pretty hard, but i can du it sometimes almost 75% of the time sometimes expect if i have very bad day only 10% of the times. It is pretty randomly, i need practice that yet. But i think it made everysingle bomb jump part 1 seconds faster complete i think it is 15 seconds total.
We all have trouble beat Robot ridley on 9% normal SS. Just boss is so randomly, but just what i already said it is your only problem,  you need patience started game again after you died against robot ridley.
One insane segment is done, took only 20 minutes. Same skill than last time my goal is 0.56.58, but  i try sub 56, i need 59 sec yet.
EDIT: Third segment complete: 10.42 before Kraid (17 sec ahead)
This took 2,30 hours beat two first segment.
Oh 13 seconds better than my 57.15 run. I need less than minutes yet if i want beat DD time. I use two new trick: 1 get faster missile expansion, bomb block not appeared again, it save 1-2 seconds. 2 Before acid worm i use irritating bomb the block and jumping wall jump same time, Dragondarch miss that his run, this save 3-4 seconds.
07.32 before acid worm (13 sec ahead)
EDIT: Two segment done:
But we all peoples here want see Spidey Widey runs. Hopefully you recorded.
But i not try single segement, i have so much trouble get sub hour SS if i started that, my run are segmented. But it looks 54.xx run. Because i planned use 12-13 save.
I think if i try that 100% run  i need lot time and it took lot days, but look forward. But i know this is only run where i can du WR, i not never can improve Transience any-% or Kridly hard mode 100% or ajbolt89 runs.
Me too are little bit busy.
Annoying i not can watch Kridly video now, but can somebody tell me is it good/faster idea use double SM shots here?
My Mother brain goal was 31 seconds my 57.15 run, i break glass lot faster because i uses Super missiles. I not use double SM shots against boss, this is very new trick. I not never practice that.
Is it hard trick and how much you can save time if you play normal mode?
I watch long time ago Kridly 100% Hard mode run. He use double super missile shots against Mother brain.
I must be practice that if i try new WR time, probably it is faster.
I think Kridly method was faster on hard mode, but he not use super missiles against glass, because you not have enought SM on hard mode. I uses SM on glass my normal mode run.
My battle 31 seconds includes barriers +Mother brain. Transience any-% MB battle was 45 sec my 100% battle was 14 sec faster.
Good luck with you, i know you need time, we both need time. It is crazy made good run.
There are three reason why i can miss my run, but look forward.
1 all save file erased 2 if i forget some items 3 if i gba/zero mission break
I am pretty sure i can get sub 56 minutes run if not anything bad happens, just like next examples:
My Chozodia escape last time was pretty slow, but i think i not never can made 4.03-04 escape my sppedrun, because my last save is in Kraid lair, it made almost impossible made perfect runs.
5-7 segments sounds humanly impossible made perfect run, but who knows, you are crazy.
Great finnish language music.
I listen Uniclubi just now.
Just now i working my 100% run, look forward can i complete sub 56 minutes.
I think i not can beat your time because i have trouble made acid worm skip. If i try skip acid worm skip it is pure suicide, because i miss that at least 90% of the time. I think i can get 32.xx without acid worms skip, but it is very difficult made it without any save.
Nice run MR.X.
Three as fast as segment than last time, i working 3-4 hours without break, I think my previous run was surprised good, i really wonder can i get sub 56 minutes, because i not can made any better segment than last time. I think there are no way get much better run than last time
EDIT: 18.37 Norfair before screw attack (21 sec ahead) 20.35 Norfair before Imago cocoon (21 sec ahead)
This was very stupid mess up when i not get charge beam, it made ridley map computer jump 100 times harder made. I practice lot map station jump today my test save file, took first time almost 30 tries made that. Now i can made it almost 50 of the time.
It is as fast as get you charge before norfair or not, my Kraid battle was perfect in my both run. I surprised this shine spark before Norfair is pretty uncessary, it is at most 1-2 seconds faster than without shine spark, trust me i test that.
This time i not get charge beam, but my segment was only 4 seconds faster than last time. Last time i get charge beam and i not using shine spark. This time i using shine spark and not get charge beam.
EDIT: fourth segment complete Norfair: 0.13.08 (21 sec ahead)
I continued run Zero Mission when i have enought time and enought motivations. Sub 56 minutes run are pretty crazy and really difficult, i need almost perfect segments and enought time and lucky day.
Not yet, i was pretty busy and  last weekend i continued my Super Metroid 100% run.
Next segment is hard, but there are way get better than last time, because Kridly use morph ball shine spark in spider room. This segment is hard because i need at least one SM refill so i can skip chozo recharge before Ridley.
EDIT: Ridly lair middle 22.36 (23 sec ahead) -two second faster than last time, this was absolutely perfect, i get fast SM refill, imago cocoon died in 5 seconds just like last time. I find almost second faster method missile expansions room., this save my time probably 1-2 seconds.
Dragondarch working sub 55 SS run, i not can belive it before i really can see it. My 57.15 looks 55.40 SS run, probably i can get 40 seconds faster run now. 54.xx is theoretical lowest possible time, Dragondarch is crazy if he can get it without any save. Its must be looks like TAS.
It is impossible avoid all little mistakes if you skip too much save, because i have got pretty worse concentration.
Only real way get better run is skip save points, but it is really difficult, because i need couple SM refills per segment and enemys drops pretty rarery SM refills. I test that save skip strategy, but it not made game any faster, because i need two as perfect segment and i made really easily 3-seconds mistake per segment, just like my 59.07 SS run, it includes almost 4 minutes little mistakes.
I surprised When i watch Kridly run, Kridly run includes many new trick/different method, but almost all Kridly methods is as fast as my method, no major difference.
Well my 57.15 run not includes any worst segment, there are only couple way speeding up. 1 Ridley lair 2 Last segment (couple mistake + i mess up shine spark stopped trick on escape took almost 6-7 seconds.
EDIT: 29.10 tourian save (24 sec ahead) -5 seconds slower than last time, because: 1: i have one SM less against Ridley (-1 seconds) 2: I get charge beam (4-5 seconds). Last time i get charge beam early, before Norfair.
Chozo statue is very bad idea, because it made game at least 3 seconds slower, it is 3 seconds faster way collects refills.
I not know is it any faster idea get two SM refill in previous segment, because if you get two refill you can beat Ridley only 1-2 seconds faster, but you lose automatically 1-2 second on segment time, because your must be kill one more enemy and get SM refill. You not can have 8 SM against boss if you skip chozo statue before Ridley, because your must be use one SM against eye door.
8 SM: Ridley died in 7 seconds 7 SM: Ridley died in 8-9 seconds 6 SM: Ridley died in 10 seconds
I test Ridley fight
EDIT: Ridley lair before Ridley: 0.24.52 (29 sec ahead) -6 seconds faster segment than last time, Thanks new tricks. i lose automatically time my next segment, because i´ve must be get charge beam and i have now 6 SM against Ridley, normal i have 7 SM.
But who know, probably my previous run includes couple slow part in later game.
I am pretty sure i not can see my goal 55.xx now, because i not can pour on the speed my current run, i can belive 56.4x probably very possible yet.
Probably Dragondarch are founded couple new trick because he planned 54.xx run.
Of course TAS is possible beat little bit faster, somebody said long time ago TAS records is 53 minutes, :|  but 54 on console and single segment is not human time, because you need extremely good concentration and perfect skills and lot manipulate luck. :-s  Only couple stupid little mistake or miss some SM refills your game is over. :(
4: I not sure is it this some versio differnece, Smokey kill beetoms without bombs. This not working my run i need bomb against beetoms. Is it some glitch or something?
3 Kraid mouth trick. I not understand this, i du it just same method as Smokey, but boss mouth closed much faster PAL than NTCS. I can shot maximal 2 super missile his mouth, not never 3 or 4.
2 Doors open slower PAL than NTCS, it is really frustrating. My opinion you not can made all possible shine spark, because before you started run with you speedbooster, your must be open door.
1: I not can lose damage as fast PAL than NTCS. Exapmle first ceres Ridley battle, Red scarlet beat that much faster than me, because she lose faster her damages. SAme trouble is last big metroid in Tourian, we both erased gravity and varia suit, but i can lose only 3-4 energy tank before metroid grap me, but Red scarlet lose almost all enegy tank her 100% run. It is impossible in PAL.
I played Super MEtroid my last weekend, my opinion game includes so much little difference PAL and NTCS.
If segment is longer than five minutes i made very easily 6 seconds or more mistakes.
I think you have good concentration, because your 28 run sounds incredible. My concentration are worse, it is one reason why i not can get incredible single segment runs, too i nervous pretty easily, and it made Suitless samus part hard beat same time as Mother brain. I can made at most five minutes segment perfectly.
Just what you already said 6-7 segment is best possible, but you need incredible concentration, good manipulate luck. I hate get SM refills, everytime it caused trouble.
55.xx is lowest human possible time, theoretical lowest is 54.xx one guy here (X-trax) working 100% run, his time before Ridley was couple seconds better than me. Probably he skip more saves, because i not see way get any better run if you use same more save as me.
I think 53.0x TAS was really old, i think 2004-2005 run. I think 100% category includes much difference than any-%, i think TAS possible is 48-49.xx. Who know TAS runs are very weird for me.
1-save Tourian 2-save Before Mother brain
SPIDEY WIDEY. how fast is your best Chozo boss? I think if you planned speedrun 2 segment run, it is impossible beat perfectly, because Chozo guy is really randomly. You need 3 segment run. Perfect diagrams appeared almost 5% of the time. If you save your game 2 times it is best possible with you any-% run.
I am very satisfied with my segment.
Theoretical this segment is still possible get 7-8 seconds faster if you beat extremely fast Chozo guy fight and if you get fully risk. Still my segment was only 4 second better than my absolutely perfect with save segment my last run. Last time my Chozo guy was really darn fast. Perfect diagrams save my time really much.
My Chozo fight was still couple seconds slower than my last run (with save run). Diagrams appeared pretty slow, especially last one. Last time i using save before Chozo boss and it made my battle couple seconds faster than this time.
-MB in 30 seconds (as best as my best battle. Battle itself was almost 10 seconds) -Escape 30 seconds left (as best as my best escape) -No map computer hit -No major mistake in Suitless part, expect i was little bit cautions in one room, took probably 2 seconds game time +i falling one time with wall jump, took probably 1-2 seconds) -No miss shots against Chozo guy (finally huh huh!) \:D/
I finally skip energy recharge and save in suitlesspart, took really long time beat that segment. This sement was amazing.
EDIT: Chozodia suit part save: 0.37.06 (29 sec ahead)
I have really much trouble here, because this segment is only hope get better run than last time. It is very cool if i can du 5-7 seconds faster segment than last time. This segment is biggest trouble. Look forward. I know this segment took long time if i can complete that ever any faster.
I can du it 0% of the time, it is impossible trick for me.
This time i try skip energy recharge in Chozodia and complete it pretty much same skill than last time with save. It is really difficult operation, because Chozo boss is very randomly and hard. My best Mother brain was 30 seconds, but i think it is possible get 2-3 seconds faster if you use double SM shots.
Yesterday i working couple hours sutiless samus segment, but i not complete that yet.
My time before Mother brain is: 30.29 /25 sec ahead)
Just i mean it japanesse time attack, i think it is TAS because it is not human possible on console.
I think i try any-% run next time.
I less 5-7 save point. I made much better segments and much cooler boss fight. Draygon was good, i beat Draygon in two round, it was pretty much same as Red scarlet battle.
6 minutes better than my test run. This run was much cooler/better than my previous one.
Best 100% time: 1.19 (PAL-versio)
I not know yet, try i improve that, because this is pretty good ending.
5 seconds better ending. Pretty good Robot ridley and excellent escape (4.00-4.01 time left) Segment itself was pretty slow, i made really much little mistakes, but no any major mistake. I made 5-6 little mistake in segment, i think i can get maximal 5-6 seconds better segment, but it is really darn hard, because last segment is almost 9 minutes long.
EDIT: Best 100% time: 0.56.45
Hopefully tomorrow is lucky day.
25 seconds better than my last run. I am pretty sure this not my final time, because my last segment was 6 seconds slower than my last run. I have very bad luck against Robot ridley and i miss last shine spark stoped trick. I try maybe 56.45 ending or less, but today are very hard luck day.
Best 100% time: 0.56.50
Dragondarch WR is 56.11 it is too far, because it is single segment. This man is incredible how hell he can get almost perfect SS run.
I planned sub 56 minutes run, but i not founded way get better. I can get maximal 56.3x ending, but it is absolutely maximal possible time on my save file. I am satisfied if i can get 56.45 ending or less.
I planned first (before i started my run) i try beat Dragondarch WR time, but it was too hard, because this guy complete almost perfect single segment run and i using 13 save point (Kridly use 12)
Hell yeah.
This is Metroid2002 all impossible is possible here?
I wait if somebody crazy man try beat that run. I working 10 days total and multiple hours. Dragondarch have current WR records yet, i lose only 34 seconds.
I think if i ever try improve that, i need lot new/faster tricks. I was pretty disappointed Kridly run tricks, because almost all Kridly methods was as fast as my methods. No difference. Only good methods was Spider room shine spark in Ridley lair, it was 4-5 seconds faster than Dragondarch method.
I can get 58.xx single segment run, but i think never 57.xx SS because it is too hardcore for me. Same trouble 55.xx segmented is too hardcore time for me.
I have really much trouble beat perfect 14 segment run.  6-7 segment is possible, but i not never ever can beat my run only 6-7 segment max.
Of course save skips is possible idea, but it is hellishly hard try skip any save points.
My 56.45 run are extremely darn good, it looks pretty much same as 54.xx SS run. Just what Dragondarch planned.
Ridley without suit looks insane. Its must be are TAS, because he made really fast morph ball and he not lose any damage against boss.
All savepoints took total: 86-88 seconds time. Possible single segment goal is 55.10. if you complete game same skill as me, but without saves.
This is my final time, i not try improve that.
Last segment looks cooler than last time. Actually it is 3 seconds better than last time. Escape was excellent again (4.02 time left). Segment itself was almost two seconds faster than last time.
second last segment was 4 seconds better than last time. I using first time my life irritating space jump method in Tourian.  It is 2-3 seconds faster than horrizontal shine spark.
-7 seconds better ending than last time. I played two last segment again.
EDIT: My best time 100%: 0.56.38
I use everysingle speedtrick in my run.
My new run was insane My time before screw attack was 18.37 it was only 58 seconds faster than your. Theoretical you can get 57.xx run yet. good luck.
go go go.
Nice Thomaz.
Super Metroid No boss/miniboss challenge is pure hell. No human challenge, only expect Red Scarlet.
I think this challenge is very easy. It is very easy collect lot early item, if you can made perfect bomb jump and wall jump. No problem for me.
SPIDEY WIDEY: Are you started run your any-% 27.xx run? How many segment are done?
My 56.38 is really darn good 14 segment goal.
55.30 is theoretical very possible single segment run on console. I think Dragondarch can beat 55.30 run.
54.40 is definitely possible if you use emulator and savestate, but no slowdown.
I not know forget i something, but i think this is max items, without killing any bosses and minibosses. Norfair lava room missile expansion is impossible get because i have only 2 energy tank max, probably if i have 4-6 energy tank it is possible.
EDIT: i complete that easy challenge. -135 missile -3 energy tank (you can get 4 energy tank if you less one missile exapnsion) -Lot main items.
EDIT 2: i see 4 zapper room expansion is impossible get. I not can jump enought high. Looks possible, but it impossible.
Hardest one is in 4 zapper room expansion without ziplines.
EDIT: actually there are two crumble room expansions and both expansions is hard to get.
Super Metroid items, almost all items is harder get than Zero Mission crumble block missile expansion.
Well this crumble block was pretty irritating, but not hard. Took almost 45 seconds to get.
Oh thanks. This sounds good. I try that.
EDIT: Norfair pool sounds possible, but i need at least 4 energy tank, probably i get that next, but you have three more expansions yet.
EDIT: i get energy tank and get out Acid worm room. Thanks MR:X. Still i wondering you have 4 missile expansion more than me.
How hell you can have 160 missiles? I can have 140 now.
IT WAS REALLY REALLY REALLY DIFFICULT. Took almost 45 minutes. I hate spider enemy, every time it moved different place. That was pure lucky.
I finally complete Kraid lair 4 zapper room expansion trick.
I need find two more mystery missile expansions yet.
I have 145 missiles now, i can get one missile expansion in Kraid lair, but i not can back here. I planned get that expansion last in the game.
Just i get Norfair lava pool missile expansion, i lose 3 energy tanks.
I get energy tank in zip line room, but i not acticvation zipline. Acid worm not appeared if you not activated zip lines.
I have all possible items.
30/29  Missile Tanks 150/58 Missiles Total     4  Energy Tanks  499/299 Energy Total     1  Morph Ball     1  Long Beam     1  Normal Bomb     1  Unknown Item #1     1  Unknown Item #2     1  Power Grip     1  Ice Beam     1  Hi-Jump     1  Varia     1  Screw Attack     1  Wave Beam     1  Charge Beam (optional)
45%/46% in Normal, 44%/45% in Hard?
Gamefaqs wrote:
MR:X is probably wrong. He say 160 missile is max. Gamefaqs said 150 missile is max:
Yes i have.
TAS?
I not know is it possible if you not have enought super missiles.
There are video, Draygon is possible in one round.
SORRY: it was TAS i see now.
I not know how you define this. But my opinion it was in one round. Anyway it was faster than Red scarlet 100% battle.
EDIT: use you Imago cocoon in 5 seconds method?
I am curious see your clear time. I know if you working very hard you can get 58-59 run yet. No problem. Patience!!!!!
Try again complete Ridley lair  segment if you can.
Still i wonder, your Ridley lair must be slow part your run, because your run sounds very goods before Screw attack, only 58 sec slower than my best actually it faster than my old 58.54 run. Theoretical you can get 58.25 yet.
26.37 is pretty good, still you can  get sub hour very easily yet. I am pretty sure you can get sub 59 yet.
Hopefully you understand me. Boos died in 5-7 seconds. This is fastest possible method against boss. You need 4 sm before boss, 3 Sm you lose against boss.
Started: 1 Shoot multiple vertical missile on left side tentacles and dont worry ripper. 2 Jump and shot two diagonal super missile on left side tentacles=( Jump one time and shot one Super missile and jump again and shot second super misssile.) 3 Freeze ripper on right side and jump onto the ripper. 4 Use one super missle and multiple missile against right side tentacles. Finally boss died.
I speak bad english, but i try expalain that. Spidey Widey can help you better if you not understand me.
Don,t worry your extra save. I use every time save point before Imago cocoon, this method is pretty hard i not use that my single segment run. Is it faster than your methods? how many seconds it is faster?
Well good.
Good luck.
Sub 32 is incredible. Only minutes yet.
go go go.!!
55.xx is almost as possible normal mode time than 57.xx hard mode time.
Just now i am so lazy try any better 100% run. This is good enought.
If i can complete everysingle segment one seconds faster, i can get 13 seconds faster run. Chozodia suitless part is theoretical possible get 6-7 seconds faster. Last segment is possible complete 4-5 seconds faster.
But it is REALLY DIFFICULT OPERATION. I working my run many days. Almost 12 days total, i finally get 56.38. Still i need 28 seconds yet. It is really long time, because my run was almost perfect
Probably.
Anyway
Of course it is possible get lot new WR times, if somebody can skip saves. Kridly run includes too much save, my run includes too much saves, Transience run includes too much saves, almost all WR runs includes too much saves. Expect ajbolt89 hard runs not includes too much saves actually on the contrary. Hard mode is faster, if you save game in Tourian. Hard mode low-% probably faster, if you save game before barriers.
Dragondarch is only one, this man is expert. He can get good Single segment run, but still i get almost as good run with 14 segment. I lose only 27 seconds.
I see 12-13 segment is almost best, but still too hard. I think Thomaz can get easier sub hour if he use 15-16 save.
I test save skip but it not working very good. I need lot manipulate luck and SM refills.
I hate too long segments.
Clear time: 56.38
save 1: Brinstar after bomb= 3.23 save 2: Kraid lair before Acid worm= 7.32 save 3: Kraid lair before Kraid= 10.42 save 4: Norfair before power grip= 13.08 save 5: Norfair before Screw attack= 18.37 save 6: Norfair before Imago Cocoon= 20.35 save 7: Ridley lair middle (no same save than Kridly)= 22.36 save 8: Ridley lair before Ridley= 24.52 save 9: Tourian entrance= 29.10 save 10: Tourian before Mother brain= 30.29 save 11: Chozodia after Chozo boss= 37.06 save 12: Chozodia after power bomb= 41.45 save 13: Kraid lair after Norfair= 47.48
My saves my 56.38 run:
This one is only 5 minutes faster. Damn!
I practice that game almost everysingle weekend probably i want try your route someday. It must be looks much faster than Smokey run and Smokey 36 minutes run looks insane in my opinion.
Can you post your run also youtube? because i want see that possible soon. My video players not working yet, and i not can fixed my players, because i am stupid.
This is superb. WHOA sub 32 really?
Of course 54.xx is possible human time, but yeah only way is skip saves. We can see Dragondarch run next, probably he can get 55.30 or lower time.
I not can belive it before i can see it.
Peoples not understand how hard is complete perfect 14 segment run . If somebody want try beat my time, good luck. Hopefully i can see perfect 4-5 segment run.
And i save my game after morph ball bombs, because ripper bomb jump place are really manipulate, every time ripper moves different place.
I think it is important use one save before Ridley lair, because there are couple manipulate SM refills.
5 segments run, i really want see that. No possible for me. I think i can beat 57-58.xx time if i use 4 save points, but never 56 or 55.
My best 100% is 1.22 it is pretty worse run.
There are 100% runs & best time topic
It is only reason why i not like try 9% single segment run.
All Zero mission bosses is very easy beat. I think hardest is low-% run Mecha ridley.
Just now i working 100% run, i think my possible goal can 1.16 or lower.
This was pretty nice run i kill Botwoon in two rounds, Draygon in three rounds. i using couple enemy boost trick in my run. My run includes 16-17 save points.
-8 minutes faster than my previous any-% run -36% items (70 missile 5 energy tank 30 super missile) - i use Smokey route, but i not using barrier glitch before Mother brain. It is very weird glitch.
Best time: 0.51 (PAL-versio)
Now you have very good chance complete sub hour, probably 57 minutes. Good luck man!!
Are you complete your sub hour run yet?
Still you are 58 seconds slower than me. 57 minutes is very possible yet.
I have 9 SM before Mother brain. 12 is MAX but it is pretty much same have you 9 or 12 SM, because i think lowest possible Mother brain is 30 seconds expect if you use one double SM shot you can beat her 1-2 seconds faster.
How many Super missile you have before Mother brain?
Sounds nice. My Tourian was pretty medicore because i was lazy try again, because i have good refills before Mother Brain.
Actually 8 SM made Mother brain only one seconds slower to beat than 9 SM, but your Tourian was 2 seconds faster than me.
8 SM is very well, pretty much same than 9 SM.
I not know but i think your 40.18 is more than two minutes slower than me, i not sure where you save your game.
My time before Mother brain was: 30.29 My time after Chozo boss: 37.06 (left side save)
Well, i save my game after Chozo boss, i not save my game in suitless part because it took 15 seconds game time.
Congrats your sub hour run, but you can beat game much faster. I have only 58 seconds ahead before Mother Brain my 56.38 run i think if you are fast enought you can get 57.36 time.
Damn your single segment 1.00.42 is damn good. My single segment was 59.07 heh still better than your.
2 I have trouble made floor spike boost,  Red Scarlet use that her 100% run. I can du roof spike boost almost 100% of the time and enemy boost almost 85-90% of the time, but floor spike boost 0% of the time. Why it is impossible for me?
1: why charge is sometimes most effective and sometimes weak. Example Croac crocomire my 100% run. Sometimes boss died after one charge and very often i need two charge his mouth.
I have couple question
I not have world records skills but i am curios see what is slowest possible PAL versio time.
I made lot enemy boosts and lot speedtrick, but i not know barrier glitch not working. I can get easily 1.14 ending if i use that barrier glitch. PAL versio is definitely slower than USA there are lot slower place and Kraid quick kill not working never because boss close mouth after i shot 2-3 super missile. Murder beam is really weird, i can made that easily, but after i made that my game stopped and i not can move. Only way i must be turn off my console.
-4 minutes faster than my previous -Same route than Red Scarlet expect early energy tank in Wrecked ship. I get gravity suit before that.
Best time 100%: 1.15 (PAL-versio)
Well
6: Nintendo 64 Score 7.5/10 7 GBA (SP) I dislike SP controlls. My little Brother have SP but i dislike SP controlls especially if i play Metroid games. Score 6/10
5: Nintendo DS like about gba but still GBA on better Score 8/10 EXPECT: I hate stylus pen controlls just like Metroid Prime hunters controlls Score 3/10
1: GBA (orginal) Score 10/10 2: NES very easy controlls Score 9.5/10 3: SNES like about Nes controlls Score 9.5/10 4: Game Cube best 3d console controlls ever Score 9/10
I like
Thanks!
My any-% (30.30) is 7 months old run, but i not never have motivations try again that, because i  dislike any-% run, because There are many irritating spot, example first segment, acic worm skip, Tourian metroids and Chozodia.
WHOA very nice first segment Thmoaz: Faster than my 30.30 minutes run, but slower than my 9% run segment. But seriously you can get sub 30 minutes.
But of course there i still lot way made faster segment. First segment is always weak spot my everysingle speedrun expect 100%. It was good enought segment, but still not best possible.
Item picked ups, not made game much slower (1-2 seconds per item). + i use one energy recharge my 9% run and it took 6 seconds, and in 9% run i need collect at least one missile item refill before bomb. Because there are missile door. I lose all 5 missile in hive room.
I think this man is amateur speedrunner yet. But still it is pretty nice first speedrun, actually better than my first any-% time.
Still i surprise your 100% run, you started run extremely good, but your last parts was pretty worse, i not know why. Are you think complete your 100% run again? Seriously you can get sub 58 easily your 100% run.
Are you continued your segmented run? You can get sub 30 minutes very easily.  4 seconds better first segment than my run. It is very good.
Skip you Acid worm?
My best without AW skip was 33.35.
Sounds nice if you not made Acid worm skip.
Zebetite part is very annoying on single segment run.
Thomaz: I understand your bad refill luck. Me too have very bad super missile refill luck my 100% Hard mode single segment run. One super missile refill took 1-2 minutes to get before zebetite.
Well still it is great first run. Are you thinking run again that? I think if you run game many, many, many times you can someday get sub 35 easily, probably sub 30.
You can get sub 29 minutes. Seriously. Keep it up.
DAmn man. Faster than Transience. Transience push start his time was 5.45.
go go go man.
My first segment was 13 seconds slower than your. I think 5.43 is too hard core time for me.  First segment is very manipulate. Worm boss and bugs room and something else bad luck.
But I can think if you keep it up, you can get sub 29 or improve Transience time.
Well Transience no use that save, but you are two seconds faster. Save took 6 seconds. I think you can get at least 4 seconds faster next segment or skip save before Ridley.
Sub 8,30 before Ridley sounds human impossible, you need extrmely perfect segment, looks like TAS. But Spidey Widey is master any-% runner..
You can be faster if you want. Your first segment was so good.
Well my time before Ridley was 9.32. Faster than your. My time in Norfair was 5.56 and i use middle save before Imago cocoon.
Acid worm skip is very nervous place on any-% SS run and 9% SS run is so hard and randomly. All metroid kill instant hit and Mother brain is dangerous if fall acid poll. Pirate ship is very dangerour place and Mecha ridley is hardest all. And last escape nervous so much.
Yeah single segments runs are scared. 100% SS run is very randomly, there are very easy made two minutes pure mistakes. i was very happy my sub hour run because i avoid all huge mistakes.
I planned next try improve my 100% run again, how many seconds i can save time if i use your items route, just like i try get later X-ray scope with space jump?
Are you test that? Is it faster than Scarlet route?
You get later X-ray scope and couple route changes.
I read your new route in page 3. It looks different than Scarlet route.
I know it is hellishly hard, but good luck.
My current any-% run took only 4 days complete i was pretty impatient. If you have patience enought you can get sub 30 minutes.
Still you need overall cooler run than me. I can say it is very difficult if you have something trouble made perfect wall jump on Chozodia. You already said you have little trouble made perfect wall jump, me too.
9.20 is pretty nice it is 12 seconds faster than my best time. Still your segment was one seconds slower than my.
EDIT: I see. use you emulator? It is not console possible.
Probably only way if somebody can find some weird glitch. Good luck. :P
Most peoples are trying pass that tentacle (myself includes) but there are no way pass that tentacle.
It is impossible!
Your ROM is so weird.
Well i just test that again my GBA, but no way.
Actually hard mode low-% ending picture is different than your. Your ending picture looks like low-% normal ending. But still nice job.
MEan you Hard mode low-% run?
I try that many times again, but i never can made that again. It was pure lucky/mishap. Is anybody founded that before me?
This room located  in Brinstar after Spore Spawrn Super missile. *************************************************
************************************************ i get out room with mock ball, but i don,t open door. SO WEIRD!
I find weird glitch yesterday. It was pure mishap
1 Complete normal mode 2 Choose start game 3 Choose New 4 Choose Erased all saved 5 Choose hard mode.
If you want hard mode.
But i am so happy i finally complete that trick.!!!!!!! :P
Spidey Widey can beat hard mode run easily sub 33. I think my possible goal can be sub 34. But well. :P  Across acid pool trick is probably too frustrating try made without dying in my opinion. :(
But i think, i come back yet. I really want improve hard mode any-% run sub 34 minutes, probably sub 33. I think it is overall pretty easy operation expect horrizontal bomb jump place in Kraid lair.
But probably i not started run hard mode run yet because this trick is so hard. ajbolt89 hard mode run time is pretty easy beat, but that acid pool across trick is still so hard yet. I need really much practice. :|
Spidey Widey must be have very good skills, because he said he can du that 50% of the time. I can du that almost 0,0001% of the time.
It was pretty darn hard. Took overall almost 2 hours across that pool.  :P
I finally across Kraid lair acid pool without power grip . I use horrizontal bomb jump method just like ajbolt89.
But your 42 minutes is very nice time. My best time on PAL is 51 minutes, i not use barrier glitch, it made my game couple minutes slower.
Lava rise faster on lava room in norfair. Somebody guy here say doors open 0.36 seconds slower on PAL.
I not know is it PAL version much slower itself, but there are still some version difference.
Wrecked ship shine spark is possible on PAL, but you need same super quick cahrge trick here.
Pillar room in Norfair is possible across with shine spark on PAL versio, but your must be use super quick charge. It is much harder than regular quick charge.
EDIT*************
I not sure is it any faster but my opinion: NOPE!.
My opinion it is uncessary trick, i started run my 100% run and i use armpumping my first segment, my opinion it as fast as regular run.
Tonski in Finmetroid page. He say arm pumping working, but it not made game much faster.
Pillar room (norfair) frame is same about Wrecked Ship. If you have USA versio you not need super quick charge, because doors open faster. I think ,your must be stoped that spark just before door.
I think i not never use that trick my speedrun, because it is absolutely too frustrating complete without dying.
Perfect frame timing is very difficult. Yeah i can across long spike corridor room with shine spark on Wrecked Ship (before gravity suit) on PAL versio. It took easily 50 tries.
I need really much practice if i want apply ajbolt89 route my next run.
But if i try that run next time i probably use normal mode route again, because it is much easier. Probably i try sub 35 minutes. Sub 34 is probably impossible on Normal mode route.
My best time on hard mode: 35.52 i use Normal mode any-% route (Transience route). This time is pretty medicore, i have bad refill luck against Ridely and Tourian is possible complete faster. Ajbolt89 route is better it is easily possible beat sub 34 minutes.
But if i learn made that better someday, i know ajbolt89 time is easy get down.
I think this trick is still too hard apply speedrun, because this took easily 100-200 tries. I never have enought patience try that my next speedrun. It is too frustrating
Thanks MR.X
Probably i try any-% run next time. But i definitely continued my 100% run, my copy save file.
But next time i definitely try sub 1.10. I think if i have very much patience, i can see my goal sub 1.06. But i think it is too hard yet.
2: Second reason why i am disappointment my run. My clear time is very low 1.12. I think it is 5-10 seconds over. But still last segment is too hard improve sub 1.12.
1: i use slow crystal flash method in Brinstar. Tonski advice faster method (get spore sparwn super without crystal flash). But he advice that too late. This is very easy trick, i defintely use that my next run. It save at least one minutes my game time.
-I was disappointment because:
Still my run was pretty bad. I definitely try sub 1.10 someday.
-Thanks blues glass your route was little bit faster than scarlet. -Thanks Tonski. I complete kraid quick kill and barrier glitch without dying. Thanks your advice it really help me.
-3 minutes faster than my previous one -Blue glass route (expect early wrecked ship ET)
Best 100% Time: 1.12 (PAL- Versio)
But hell yeah my run includes couple good parts, i have 2-3 excellent segment and couple very worse segment.
My Phantoom took easily 4-6 rounds. I use wave beams and missiles against phantoom. I think if i can use faster method i can save easily 30 seconds here.
But yeah this not my best possible run. My Phantoom battle is always suck. Have anybody good idea beat that faster? Azor use in two rounds strategy, but videos not working my computer, how hell it is possible?
My Draygon battle was pretty suck because i have less than 17 super missile max against Draygon. I think that No CF Spore Sprawn save 10 piece super missiles before Botwoon and Draygon. I think i can beat both bosses little bit faster.
Yeah that no CF Spore Spawn is very easy apply my next run. It is very important trick & pretty easy
Thanks.
I have everytime big trouble timed that my Botwoon battle.
I think Azor method is very difficult. It is very difficult timed power bomb wave beam hit, because this boss appears randomly.
Thanks.
I promise watch that when somebody fixed my videoplayer. Hopefully that man post his time on youtube.
I watch scarlet 29 min video and it looks very good. I think this must be really darn fast run. Chris knight is probably best nes player ever. He have insane SMB 2 time and insane Nes Metroid time.
This must be VERY GOOD TIME!.
EDIT: Actually i just founded Hotarubi Flash player video. I go watch it right now.
And very big thanks Nate.   Your SDA flash player working very well. Can i find Hotarubi SS flashplayer video here?
Good job chris. :P
I just finished watching it. It was so great run. I like especially his ridley lair part, he have last energy before Ridley. So great run, probably looks better than Dragondarch 100% run.
We can wait Blue glass 100% SS run next. 100% run is harder than any-%. I really want see his as perfect 100% SS run someday.
This run was best ever in the world!!!!
His Botwoon, Draygon and Mother brain battle was very insanes battles, looks like TAS. Phantoom battle was pretty slow, but hell yeah it was still better battle than my segmented run Phantom battle.
His mock ball was weird, he use different mock ball method than me. Just like gate hater trick is impossible my mock ball method.
There are so weird speedtricks and Hotarubi manipulate luck was almost perfect. Cool and lucky man! 8-)
It was definitely coolest run ever on console. His run looks like pretty much Terimakashis TAS run.
I finally finished watching Hotarubi run.
I really want see that SS run. Sub 50 min 100% without saves sounds impossible and it definitely is it.
Probably Hotarubi is best player in the world. It is very hard belive is it sub 50 100% SS possible on console. I think 47 without slowdown is pretty darn good. i think it is no human run.
-I sometimes wonder is it Hotarubi speedruns real runs on console -His any-% Manipulate refill luck was excellent (looks like TAS) and he complete almost all very difficult tricks without dying. Looks impossible.
Sub 50 100% SS possible?
JES!! :P
-I am so happy my run. Still my run was pretty slow, but i am happy because i made acid worm skip without dying on SS run.
-I get long beam. My opinion long beam made game much easier beat faster. -My item colletction rate was 32%. (4 et, 60m 8sm) Just what i already said i was cautions because acid worm skip is pure lucky for me.
-Overall my run are pretty slow. It is definitely overall almost minutes slower than my previous one (without AW skip run). -My Suitless samus part was very worse, this is definitely possible complete almost minutes faster but i was so nervous after acid worm skip, this is crazy trick on SS run.
-1.12 minutes faster than my previous -I skip Acid worm first tries. REALLY!!! I WAS CRAZY & EXTREMELY LUCKY I can du it only 10% of the time. This is very big risk
Best time single segment: 0.32.23
-Yeah i can get sub 32 very easily, probably sub 31 on single segment., but AW skip is only reason why i not want try perfect SS run.
-This not my coolest speedrun, but of course my run includes good parts. I not know try i improve that someday, because Acid worm skip nervous me everytime.
-My sutiless part was really horrible. I made 45-50 seconds pure mistakes here. I not can understand but it really was horrible part.
-I get 8 SM because almost every time i miss one Super missile against MEcha ridley. I never try skip that expansions on SS run. 60 missile made Tourian possible beat faster. My opinion it is better idea get 60 missile on SS run.
-I get long beam, because i was lazy try hive room. I hate hive room so much. This is first run my life when i get long beam. I next time promise skip that.
-Just i get 4 energy tank. I get one more before Tourian, because Suitless samus part scared me and i was very nervous after acid worm skip. It is pretty same get i that ET because it took only 4 seconds game time.
-I not know why i have trouble skip acid worm, but my opinion it it pure lucky. Probably you are better. But i was very lucky man, because i can du it only 10% of the time. And i can miss it 90% of the time.
MR.X: You ask stupid question for me, but i still answers.
Thomaz: Yeah i have good refill luck in Tourian. Tourian and Mother brain was one definitely best part my run. And good luck your sub 30 minutes run, hopefully you can get it
Ok thanks guys.
When you practice lot you can get everytime faster run.
I understand you very good. This is your first run.
Thanks.
Transience time in tourian was 15.40 i am 30 seconds slower. I have very good change get sub 30. If i am as fast as Transience i can theoretical get under 29.30. But i think it is absolutelu too hard.
EDIT 2: i probably try improve my Kraid lair segment little bit a tommorow, it was good, but i still miss two spider double shot in side hopper room.
EDIT: Damn Thomaz your first semgent was pretty darn good. 5.43. My is 5.54 and my opinion my 5.54 is almost perfect. Probably you use faster hive room method.
We looking can i get sub 30 minutes it is probably too hard. Today is pretty good day, i can du acid worm skip at least 25% of the time.
I need 31 seconds better run than last time, now i have 18 sec ahead my previous run.
Segment 4: Tourian save: 16.11 (18 sec ahead) *******************************************
Segment 3: Kraid lair: 13.06 (11 sec ahead)
Segment 2: Before Ridley: 9.25 (7 sec ahead)
I decide try sub 30 any-% run segmented next. Ok Thomaz. *********************************** Segment 1: Norfair after power grip 5.54 (2 sec ahead)
We can see.
This is my final time only one seconds better segment than last time. I need 12 seconds ahead yet so i can get sub 30 minutes.
-I hate Kraid lair side hopper room. I miss two double shots once again. But still everything else working perfectly.
My time in Tourian 16.10 (19 sec ahead)
Damn
I must be save 5 seconds yet, but it is extremely difficult.
i working couple hours that segment but still my time suck everytime. This part is pure nightmare. Still i planned use save before suitless part. Sutiless part caused everytime much trouble and Chozo boss is randomly.
-Mother brain is pretty darn hard beat fast enought and green rinkas drop super missile refill very rarery. + I have sometimes trouble made MB shine spark and map computer skip without dying.
- Very annoying metroid segment took almost 4 hours complete fast enought, still i have only 45/50 m and 4/4 sm before barriers.
My time in Tourian before barrier: 17.34 (26 sec ahead)
Go go go Thomaz
-1 seconds slower segment than last time, but it took only 3 hours complete MB fast enought. My MB was still 2 seconds slower than Transience battle. -Yeah i need 6 seconds better chozoida than last time, probably it is too hard. I don,t remeber is it my Chozodia fast my currents run, but we can see it.
19.36 (25 seconds ahead)
Well my time on Chozodia first save:
I think Double SM shots against MB is uncessary on any-% run, because you dont have enought missiles and super missiles. But it can save your time your 100% run.
-Good luck everybody!!!!! Who is next sub 30 man???????
-I lose time with saves 6+6+8+6+6+12+12= 56 seconds -I complete that run in three day.
Clear time: 29.55
-Save 6: Chozodia suitless part (19.36) -Save 7: Last save (same as Transience) (25.28)
-Save 1: Norfair after PG (5.54) -Save 2: Ridley lair before boss (9.25) -Save 3: Kraid lair (13.06) -Save 4 Tourian (16.10) -Save 5:Tourian before boss (17.34)
-Finally sub 30 minutes -8.segment (7-save point) -26% items
Best time: 0.29.55
Good luck! I can say. I really hate barrier and Mother brain segment.
If you keep your speed up. You are next sub 30 minutes man here.
Thanks
I mean Kraid lair save took 8 seconds because it located back of corner. Normal save point took 6 seconds.
Yes
We can see lot new records here.
Good luck everybody!!!! :P
Probably if you can complete that trick you can break easily ajbolt89 hard mode WR time. I think sub 33 minutes is very possible on hard mode. I have too much trouble complete HBJ, it is very frustrating try complete that run. HBJ only reason break my dream try sub 33 minutes hard mode run.
Crazy man! I have too much trouble made that, i complete that trick only one time and it took almost 2 hours.
Very nice job Jagger-G i see your SS is better than me. Seriously you said kraid first. This mean you use HBJ across acid pool right?
Your SS goal sounds human impossible if you mean try 53 minutes without any saves.
Biospark are you trying speedrun 1% segmented run? What is your best time?
I wondering if somebody can complete that.
go go go guys.
My best 1% multi segment is 57 and it took almost 2 weeks and many, many, many deaths complete.
This run is pure suicide.
My 32 minutes SS is overall pretty slow run. I know i can get it faster because my multi segment is 29.55. I can see my possible SS goal 30-31 minutes if everything working as good as i planned. But everytime that acid worm skip break my dreams.  ,  :(
I hate that trick. It is suicide.
I trying couple times SS run again, i wanna got that easily sub 32 minutes, but both tries i miss acid worm skip.  Why hell i miss that almost every single segment attempt?
Aargh today is really bad day.
Yes there are couple missile block of floor. You found blocks easily if you use your morph ball bombs.
I mean missile blocks before screw attack blocks (second room).
go go go crazy mans. Almost every attempt is suicide JEEEEE
But we can see. I can belive next 1% SS records is 58-59 minutes. And still sub hour is really amazing 1% SS run.
Third reasons is eyedoors, you not can have perfect luck here. I think 10-15 beams on SS run is really good total. But still you lose lot times.
Second trouble is enemys. Enemys moves very randomly and located everytimes different places. You need lot manipulate lucky if you try moves fast enought on 1% game. This not caused trouble on any-% SS, but in 1% SS, everysingle enemy ruined your game really fast, if you don,t are enought cautions. Can anybody have enought manipulate luck complete that in 53 min?
I think your must be bit cautions against Yakuza (second forms) and Ridley. Ridley is pure lucky if you use Wassup dawgs method. Wassupdawgs method is much faster than Dragondarch method
I have really trouble beat Big core X in 4 hit on 1% run, because boss caused randomly damage per hit, sometimes boss drains 40 energy point sometimes 20. I think it is theoretical impossible complete that in 4 hits without saves. Took at least 3-4 hours complete that in 4 hits my 57 min 1% run. Any-% battle is at least 1000000 times easier beat in 4 hits because you have enought energy tanks max.
Kridly SS run was amazing his eye door lucky working almost perfectly and he have 3 et and 35 missile max. It made game at least millions time easier than 1% run.
Your must be are bit cautions, because many enemys kill you in 1-2 hit, and without save you need extremely lucky dodge, avoid all little mistake. It is really frustrating.
Well. I think 53 min 1% SS is only theoretical possible on console, but can anybody really complete that?
Hopefully you recorded. I really want see your run.
WHOA!!!!!
-But yeah this was pretty nice run. Still i miss 1.04 ending, because stupid clocks looks 2 seconds over. Red Scarlet old WR segmented was 1.04, i think my run looks almost as good as, but there are no saves. JES!!!!! :P
Comments_ -I get early varia suit, because this run was hard mode -I get both map computer hits -I have little bit trouble get pulse bombu room energy tank, because that enemy shoot beam randomly and stoped shine spark easily -My tourian was pretty slow, because i not remember any metroid located place.
-I am happy my run, because it was overall very good SS
-This was very good SS run without any save points and without deaths. -I was bit cautions, because you died very easily on hard mode. Enemys drain 50% more energy and all expansion give less fire powers
-5.54 minutes better than my previous hard 100% SS run
Best time 100% Hard mode single segment: 1.05.02
-But probably i try sub 44 min next. But now i continued my 100% run once again, hopefully i can get sub 1.10 ending.
-This was pretty nice run. I think PAL versio is almost 5 minutes slower than NTCS, because one guy (I not remember his name right now) his best time with NTCS was 37 min and his best time on PAL was 42 min.
-I use kraid quick kill -I use Smokey method against Phantoom -I use charge beam only against botwoon, just like Smokey SS run. -Draygon: Smokey method -Pillar room with power bombs, shine spark is too hard complete on PAL versio. -I use barrier glitch without dying -I not use murder beam, because i not like that trick
-4 minutes faster than my previous -17 segment (16 saves) -30% collection items (45m 5et 0rt 15sm 5pb) & Smokey items -I mimic lot like Smokey & Scarlet run, because all Hotarubi trick looks impossible complete. Just i not never can understand his mock ball. I can du it 0% of the time. Example gate hater trick is impossible because i not can complete hotarubi mock ball.
Best time: 0.47 (PAL versio)
Botwoon quick kill is hardest boss trick in the game, i can du it 0% of the time. You are crazy man. Congrats!!!!! :P
But you can definitely get faster, i think 43 minutes. You are most skillfull Super Metroid player. I think i try next time improve your run, but i still use Smokey style, because Hotarubi style is too hard & frustrating. I not can understand how hell you can complete pillar room with spacejump and how hell you can use that super quick charge trick without dying.
Damn Tonski. Your run is new Finland records. Your run sounds much better than my own, because you use almost all Crazy trick and i use Smokey trick and Smokey style play that game. Still i get only minutes slower time.
And Nice run jagger-G. Still you can get sub 30 minutes someday. But i know sub 30 goal is really difficult and frustrating. And if i read correctly you use HBJ route.
It can save your time at least 12 seconds. I not skip that because i was lazy try perfect post stealth segment because i hate Mother Brain. But anyway i still got sub 30 minutes and i am satisfied. But of course if you skip both Chozodia save you can get at least 20 seconds better clear time than me. But you need more amount skill, if you planned skip both Chozodia saves.
Sounds nice Thomaz. You have 4 sec ahead my 29.55 run. Are you planned skip Chozodia suitless part save?
Hopefully you recorded it soon.
I still wait your crazy 1% SS video (sub 55 minutes.) It must be coolest Fusion video ever.
Sounds very nice man. You get sub hour 100% on TAS.
We can see can Jagger-g and Thomaz get sub 30 goal next.
Very nice job Tonski, it is very good first run. I think if you paractice lot you can easily get sub 35 min run someday. Only couple peoples here can get sub 30 minutes myself includes, but it is very hardcore run.
I want see Sparky sub hour run, i really wonder how hell it is possible.
This game is so horrible speedrun. I think i am lazy try again that run, because i died & restart many times but still my time suck. i think sub 2 hours is very possible on my route. My route is much slower than WR route and i have PAL versio.
41% item (6et 35m 6pb)
MY HUGE MISTAKES -Under water ghetto took at least minutes -Double bomb jump over high gate before Phazon mines took almost 3 minutes -I choose wrong way many times -Everything part suck here. -All ghetto jumps caused much trouble -I lose at least minutes game time in Ore Prosessing
-I get Space jump first -I get early missiles -I skip Grapplebeam and gravity suit. -I use Flaahgra quick kill -I not skip Spider ball because it is absolutelu too hard -I use many savepoints
-I not use WR route -i use my own little Sbreak route
-My first run (test run) -This run was really horrible and very slow, but still that took almost one week complete. This is really hard game, hardest speedrun game ever what i played. I think this is 4x harder than Echoes. My echoes best time is 25 minutes faster than my orginal prime time.
Best time: 2.41 (PAL- versio) :P
Probably next time (if i someday try that run again) I try get spider ball later game (after Phazon mines), still i not planned skip that yet.
metroid quarantine A is really hard without spider ball, i practice Pirate109 method but still not never working.
There are couple really difficult room without spider ball. I have real trouble bomb jumping & unmorph after Flaahgra, it is too risky, i can du it only 1-2% of the time. Took easily 50-100 attempt complete that. i think it is too hard apply that speedrun.
What is his real run?
I not know is it Sparky complete that run yet. I watch his incredible test run in youtube. It looks incredible fast, but why he calling that test run?
It unmorph is hard because you need perfect timing, and your must be use your joystick and (X-button) instant unmorph after last bomb. I almost everytime miss that unmorph, i timing wrong or something.
Ok when i next time practice that trick, i try use my ears. I not know help it me, but i want trying.
Well! thanks. :P
-i think i must be complete orginal metroid once again so i can increase my total time possible low, but i don,t like that game. I must be practice lot, because game is hard try complete without deaths.
100% Super Metroid: 1.12 Metroid fusion: 1.22 Metroid Zero Mission: 0.56 Metroid Prime: almost 8 hours Metroid prime 2 echoes: too much (i think 12 hours)
LOW-% Metroid Fusion: 0.57 (1%) Metroid Zero mission: 0.41 (9%) Metroid Prime 2 Echoes: 5.50 (22%)
ANY-% Super Metroid: 0.47 Metroid Fusion: 0.54 Metroid Zero Mission: 0.29 Metroid Prime: 2.41 Metroid Prime 2 echoes: 2.16 Metroid Prime Hunters: 16.10
I improving my total metroids times once again:
There are lot manipulate refills, because i have only 15 missile max. I get same items as S_E. Silent echo run is really incredible i use almost all my skill, but i never can get as fast run as him. But i try beat Radix old WR time (2.11). It is enought hard challenge for me. My route is almost same as Radix, still i have couple more speedtricks.
Next segment caused everytime trouble because great bridge bsj is randomly and hard, why it give everytime different more height?
-It is at least over minutes faster than my 2.16 run.
My time Torvus bog first save is: 0.34
EDIT: Well it took couple days i finally complete Agon wastes.
I have at least 15 sec ahead my previous run (2.16). Now i learn many time saver, i can improve lot time. We can see can i improve my time. I love Echoes, very nice game, but next segment is still nightmare because it is too long and jump guardian cheap trick is very hard/annoying.
Next segment is very hard, one hardest and longest in the game. I try use first time jump guardian trick. Annoying sparky video in youtube not working today, probably i see that video tommorow.
Segment 2 complete: 0.08. (i think 45 sec over) Agon wastes save
Segment 1 complete: 0.04 Before Alpha spliter
I decide try Echoes speedrun next. I try improve my 2.16 run sub 2.10.
If you continued your game right now i am sure you can get easily sub 30 minutes.
Still you have very good change get sub 30 run. My time was 17.34 and i have only 46/50m 4/4 sm max before Mother brain. My time was 29.55 and i use both Chozodia savepoints and i lose time with saves at least 24 seconds.
Probably Jagger-g or Thomaz joined next. But you have good change mochtroid, but you need much more practice yet. I think i can get someday sub 29.30. But right now i not have enought motivations try that again. 29.55 is enought good time for me.
1: Spidey Widey: 28.04 2 :Transience: 28.50 (Current WR in SDA) 3: Eagle: 29.25 4: Game cube04: 29.54 5: MASTER-88: 29.55
I remember there are only 5. peoples get sub 30 minutes run:
EDIT: Very nice job Mochtroid, you probably someday joined sub 30 minutes team.
I think Chozo boss is so randomly, boss diagrams appeared randomly everytime, perfect diagrams save at least 6 seconds or more game time, but perfect diagrams appeared almost 5% of the time. I recommend you save before Chozo boss or middle chozodia if you want beat perfect chozo fight. It is too frustrating combination try perefct Mother brain and Chopzo boss on any.% run, because Mother brain is extremely hard beat fast enought and chozo boss is 90% lucky.
Actually sutiless part save not made game much slower. I remember my 100% best run (56.38) I dont use suitless part save here, still that segment was only 4 seconds faster than previous (57.15) speedrun with sutiless part save. 57.15 includes extremely fast chzo fight, boss diagrams appeared very fast. My 56.38 run (without sutiless part save run) includes without miss shot fight but boss diagrams appeared pretty slow. I think i lose 5-6 seconds my Chozo fight.
His SDA run was 30.22. I dont know is he trying that category after his 30.22 run. he definitely can get sub 30 minutes.
ajbolt 100% hard is overall pretty slow segmented run. His any-% was stil veryl good. I like his last semgent. It  was 2 seconds faster than Transience run last segment.
Yeah!
It is main reason why i use that save my any-% run. I hate manipulate luck segments.
Hell yeah Tourian is very annoying part on any-% run. It was only part that took very long time beat my 29.55 run. Metroid segment took amost 3 hours still i have only 46/50m max and Mother brain segment took almost 3 hours. SM refill with green rinkas frustrated me and boss is hard and randomly. And you falling acid pool very easily. After three hour i finally got good boss fight and good escape and i use Chozodia sutiless part save.
GREAT JOB MAN..........!!! 8-)
Congrats Mochtroid. You are 6 th person sub 30 minutes team.
I dont have S_E skills. S_E have only 3 et max, but he is millions time faster player than me.
It boss caused couple deaths my last run (6 et max). Hopefully i not miss my run.   5 energy tank max made game probably too hard beat.
I probably doing stupid award when i skip energy tank before Chykka. I think i can have in future really big trouble beat Quadraxis only 5 energy tank max and without dark suit.
EDIT 2: 1.03 Samus aran ship save great temple. 4-5 minutes ahead my 2.16 run. My chykka battle was medicore, but i dont like try that again.  I have almost 1-2 minutes ahead Radix 2.11 run.
EDIT: 50 minutes after Boost guardian. Radix time was 52 minutes. I have 1-2 minutes ahead Radix 2.11 run. I beat Boost Guardian in two rounds. I was death after boost guardian. I survive only 6 energy point left my save point.
Very nice job Piccolocube. I working on my sub 2.10 minutes run. I have 1 minutes ahead Radix (2.11) run before boost Guardian. If i keep my speed up i have very good change get sub 2.10 run.
Hopefully i can beat that, it is extremely annoying miss my run against Quadraxis, because everythink else working very well yet. Hopefully i dont forget any sky temple keys or forget any route or somethink else bad happen. This run nervous me little bit right now.
I really think it is hard fight because your must be are lucky and fast. Last time it caused couple deaths and drain lot my energy, theoretical i can survive against him 5 et max, but i think it caused much trouble beat it only 5 nergy tank max. +Your must be survive save your game and save point located pretty far.
Yeah right now i have 4 energy tank, but i know that roll jump energy tank in watch station acess. When i get it i have 5 energy tank max.
My MB battle was 2-4 seconds slower and escape 1-2 seconds slower than your and it took 3 hours attempt and i still never ever care take that risk try complete chozodia suitless part without save point, because i died very easily here if i am enought nervous.
Heh Transience Mother brain battle was amazing and his escape was better than my escape ever, and i really wonder how you dare play chozodia without save and without energy recharge after your perfect MB segment.
Spidey Widey already said his tourian escape is 27 seconds (1.33 time left), his strategy is little bit difference than Transience, i don remember very good, but he don,t use wall jump as much as Transience. Still i don,t understand his speed. Because my Tourian escape is almost everytime 30 seconds.
My route is same as Radix, but couple route changes: example i skip ing hive keys and i get out alpha blogs room. I use great bridge bsj and my sky temple key route is little bit different and i get early power bomb in Tranisist station.
I am curious whats Sbreak route you use your current best any-% run?
You said you planned use secret worlds your 100% run. I think real speedrun rules (SDA) don,t allow secret worlds runs.  Probably SW route is faster, i think.
****Wait!!! Piccolocube****
Now i have really big touble beat spider guardian fast enought, this boss is hardest boss beat perfectly in the game, this fight suck every attempt, everytime i have 40-50 seconds pure mistake here. Luckily i have 3 copy save file before Spider-G. I want get much better fight.
Still i have over 3 hours restart with under water dashes. And laser ghetto and alpha blohg skip segment took almost two days complete fast enought.
Good luck man, i have too much trouble try 100% run in WR route. I never ever can complete Sparky route, because i am amateur 3d sbreaker. Any-% run route is pretty easy sbreak route.
Thomaz is probably next sub 30 minutes man.!!! We can see it next!!!
Sub 30 minutes is very great time.
Sorry if i forget mention somebody my list Congrats everybody!!!!
1: Spidey Widey: 28.04 2: Transience: 28.50 3: Eagle: 29.25 4: Gamecube04: 29.54 5: MASTER-88: 29.55 6: Moctroid: 29.57 7: Jagger-g: 29.59
There are 7 peoples now
Once again new guy joined sub 30 minutes team. Congrats jagger-G very nice run. I think you beat Kraid first. It is first sub 30 minutes completion kraid first route.
Tentacle disappear when you get power grip. Weird.!!!!!!
No possible. Game itself is possible beat without using power grip, but you not can pass norfair tentacle. Nothing works against tentacle.
This is Raccoon sam fake/hack rom. It is impossible on console.
Screenshot here:
Planned anybody speedrun 10% Hard mode TAS? If you have perfect SM refill luck on Tourian you can beat really fast Tourian segment if all metroids drops SM refill. It save at least 4 minutes on 10 Hard mode run. Ajbolt89 run metroids drop only 2-3 SM refill. It is theoretical possible beat at least 3-4 minutes faster Tourian, but i think nobody can have TAS luck here.
Perfect luck definitely save at least 10 seconds on any-% run.
Who can have perfect luck? I think nobody can have perfect luck on console.
Good luck once again Piccolocube we can see lot good time here.!! :P
I finally get almost perfect Spider-G fight. Took overall two days and almost 5 hours attempt.
I can du at least 15 seconds faster segment, but this segment frustrated because i need two manipulate PB refill here.
+I falling one time down it was my own stupid mistake.
1: I miss watch station access roll jump one time. 2: I miss screw attack room roll jump one time. I use that because this is good shortcuts. I can skip dark world part.
I don,t happy because i made couple mistake, i miss roll jump two time:
my time is 1.26 before Dark samus 2 on my any-% run. It is almost 6 minutes faster than my 2.16 run. But i don,t very happy my segment, i want get 1.25 before dark samus.
Very nice job piccolocube your run is really good. I interested see your new any-% time. I think you can get sub 2 hours if you have enought patience try it. Sub 2.10 is easily possible your skill.
I think you play PAL versio because your home world is France.
Iowa your run is new WR time. Stefan single segment time was 1.19. It is 2 minutes slower than your. And you said your run includes tons mistakes. That is incredible works. Probably we can see new PAL versio WR time.
Good luck.
We can see!
Are you never planned speedrun PAL versio run? I think Stefan WR run is overall little bit easier beat than smilingjack NTSC run.  Your homeworld is France you can buy PAL versio.
1.17 is still very amazing  NTSC versio time. I think if you practice lot you can get sub 1.13 someday.
Well that,s nice.
We can see, can i complete that run. hopefully i don,t forget sky temple keys or something bad happens. !!!!!! :|
I get manipulate PB refill, it was pretty easy because PB refill appeared pretty often. Theoretical if everything working as good as last time my possible clear time is 2.08-2.09.
I finally dare skip main gyro chamber save. My Quadarxis went pretty well, of course it possible beat 15-20 seconds faster, but it is too hard and frustrating for me. Segment overall was avarage, i have little bit toruble get ing hive key. I falling one time down (Stupid screw attack ) And before Quadraxis i miss bsj jump 2 times.  :(  My segment includes almost one minutes pure mistakes, but it was still pretty avarage and good, because this is 11 minutes long segment. And really difficult beat fast enought.
EDIT: 1.40 Great temple save.
I must be try it again in my third copy save file.
Quadraxis is pretty darn hard and very irritating boss. Took almost 15 attempt beat that fast enought only 5 ET max & without dark suit. I don,t want play that again, but i can save lot time if i next time dare skip manigyro chamber save point.
I don,t very happy yet. I probably try beat Quadraxis segment again and i want try skip manigyro chamber save. It save at least 30 seconds, but last time i was too cautions and i don,t skip that save point.
Now i have 1.41 in Great temple, it is almost 7 minutes faster than my 2.16 run.
Sounds nice Piccolocube.
But right now i am very happy man. This run took extremely long beat and my time was really good in my opinion. Now i get long break.
I think i try 22% speedrun next. Its easy improve my 5.50 time here. Or i try hard mode any-% run and try improve my worst 2.59 time.
-This was very well run.
-I practice couple new time saver and less many savepoints.
-Couple parts caused real trouble. Under water dash segment took almost 4 hours, Alpha blogg  skip lase ghetoo segment took almost 3 hours and Spider guardian segment almost 3 hours and two days complete. Screw attack segment was one avarage segment, i working long but i never improve that much enought.
-My run includes couple amazing segments and couple avarage segments and many good parts.
-Everysingle part went good and i don,t made any major mistakes.
-My run includes overall 4-5 minutes pure mistakes and if i someday try improve that sub 2 hours i must be practice better route. I think there are no way get sub 2 hours goal with my route.
-Same route as last time, i don,t use WR route. I get spider ball before screw attack and i don,t skip grapple beam, both trick caused too much trouble for me.
-I am very satisfied my run, my final time really surprised me.
-This run was amazing and overall very good. I working almost 3 weeks my run and 20-30 hours total.
-38% item (5et, 150 beam ammo, 3pb, 55m)
-27 segments (26 save points)
-I use SDA time rules (no SW and no wall crawl) -4 minutes better than Radix old WR and 9 minutes better than my previous one
Best time: 2.07 (without Secret Worlds) :P
Sub 30 minutes team wait you next.!!!
Watch station is impossible without spider ball for me. I don,t have enought Sbreak skills or i don,t understand that idea.
But i not never can complete hall of combat mastery and watch stations without spider ball. I don,t understand why hall of combat mastery trick is impossible for me. It looks pretty easy.
EDIT: I just practice lot new tricks. Now i practice transit station early PB without spider ball. It actually pretty easy. Of course it took first time many tries, but now i can du it pretty easily. It is possible apply that my next speedrun.
I think i can get theoretical very close 2 hours run with my route if everythink working as good as i want. But right now i am absolutelu too lazy try that run again because i working that only three weeks and almost 30 hours.
My best segment my run was definitely dark samus 2 segment. I beat that segment in 3 minutes. Battle itself took 20-30 seconds beat, just like S_E. I was happy my spider guardian battle because everythink went very well here.
Screw attack segment was avarage. I miss two time roll jump and falling one time down. My agon wastes segment was slow. My Bomb guardian was in 3 round battle and i miss couple charge shots against jump guardian.
I miss one round emperor ing first form, my battle was in two round. I lose almost 20 seconds against Empy 3. My last dark samus was good. 5.4x time left.
+My run includes at least 5 minutes pure mistakes. I lose 20 seconds against chykka adult. 15-20 seconds against Quadraxis. My boost guardian was in 2 round fight (i never can du in one round fight)
It made game at least 1 minutes faster beat, my possible clear time can be 2.06, but anyway.
*****COMMENTS MY RUN************ Just yesterday i learnt double bsj, and finally i can du that trick almost 90% of the time. But it is very annoying because i learn that too late. I don,t use dark forgoten bridge shortcuts in my run after boost guardian because i learn that trick too late. :|
I never can made these trick.
All screw attack no spider trick caused too much trouble. 1: Watch station morph slot jump. 2 Transit station power bomb without spider ball. 3 spider track morph ball jump without spider ball. S_E miss that 7-8 times.
Thanks compliments guys!
I definitely belive sub 40 is very possible.
You can get close my 41.35 minutes 9% normal run.
Jagger-g. Are you planned try 9% run sub 40 minutes?
almost as good as my first low-% runs long time ago.
Heh nice man. 9% normal in 56 and 10% hard in 1.14. :P
Robot ridley is itself pretty easy, but his randomly attack ruined easily 9% normal SS run
I beat both metroid parts but first barrier stopped my 9% hard mode run. My opinion it is humanly impossible beat barrier segment only 2 missiles max. I think it is only theoretical possible on console.
Well first metroid part is pretty hard on 10% hard mode. Especially it is much harder on 9% (PAL) hard mode.
I think third and fourth barriers is almost humanly impossible. Just like as impossible as fusion 0% run.
I working first barrier almost 3 hours but i tire because first barrier is easiest all and i never break that barrier.
I never can complete S_E method but this my new method is pretty easy. I can complete that very easily.
This method is much easier than S_E or Sparky method, but theoretical it is probably little bit slower (3-4 sec). But it is much easier way complete this hard room fast enought if you don,t have enought skills or luck.
When you use single bsj opposite spider track and continued jump screw attack over spider track.
I found much easier way complete hall of combat mastery without spider ball.
My method is simply bsj and screw attack across spider track. I don,t use secret worlds.
NO secret worlds!!!!
I am still pretty proud because i found that without help.
But well this is very good method on single segment run. Because morph jump is extremely randomly.
But anybody don,t never mention that trick here. When you watch metroid2002 main page there read only one method.
Nice man you founded that before me. :P
But today i find single bsj assist screw attack jump. It was actually pretty easy for me.
Well. I can du instant unmorph trick 0% of the time. I trying that almost one hour but it don,t never working. I tire try that.
Actually you have screw attack and power bomb.
S_E have screw attack but he don,t use that method. He use that ghetto method and he miss that 7-8 times.
I think your must be pass that room only one time (after early PB expansion) just like S_E run. And you have early screw attack before that room.
And piccolocube what you mean when you said not on the first trip?
My method is easier.
I think ghetto method is still randomly because S_E miss that 8 times on his run. S_E have extremely skills and he miss that many times. But he don,t still restart game.
Jump double bsj and continued screw attack. You can skip long spider ball maze. It save almost 30 seconds your time. But this trick is pretty hard, took first time almost 30 attempt. But still if anybody want save lot time this is very good shortcuts on 100% run.
This save almost 30-40 seconds game time.
You can get early missiles without spider ball and you can skip spider ball maze, if i remember right: Sparky don,t use that.
This is good shortcuts on 100% speedrun.
You can get Hall of comabt mastery missile expansion without spider ball and you can skip long spider ball maze.
Morph slot jumping looks hard, but i never can practice that because i never can jump onto the track.
I read bsj method on metroid2002 main page, but double bsj don,t give enought height. I don,t see any different double or triple bsj, both give same more height. Bsj don,t working here in my opinion.
I have too big trouble jump onto the spider track. I watch sparky video he jump first onto the enemy, but i don,t can jump onto the enemy because i falling everytime down when i try jump onto the rezbiz. Rezbiz is too slick and i slide everytime down when i try doing that trick.
Right now i working 22% normal mode run, i don,t try good run, because i am lazy. But someday i want get sub 2 hours any-% run. But yeah i must be practice lot time saver before that.
But thanks. I try that ghetto method, because i belive it is my only hope doing that trick.
Ghetto method is probably good idea. But annoying only flashplayer videos working my computer. I think i don,t can watch that ghetto method, because there are no flash player.
lowest possible time with my skill is probably 1.08, but i must be skip save points and i need lot motivations try that. Right now i don,t have enought motivations improve that because my run was pretty good.
-I don,t use murder beam. Probably i can get 1.09 ending with murder beam, but it is most stupid metroid game glitch ever. It is very irritating.
-I skip energy recharge before Mother brain, it is harder but still faster way
-I get spore sprawn SM expansion without crystal flash -This run looks pretty much same as my previous one, but probably it is little bit faster. My Draygon battle was amazing job and my Botwoon was in 3 round battle.
-23 segments (22-save) -Well i finally complete that run. This is same run as my 1.12, but i improiving couple segments again on my third save copy file.
Best 100% time: 1.10 (PAL-versio)
But my 9% normal mode time is probably best 9% time in the world. It is still probably possible beat sub 40 minutes on console, but it,s must be very hard.
My best 10% Hard is 50.53 and i complete that 4 missile route, because my opinion SM soute is much harder speedrun but theoretical it is much faster way.
Barrier part before Mother brain is faster too. And Robot ridley is possible beat darn fast if you have good SM refill luck. couple points is slower on SM route: Example Ridley lair, Acid worm, Tourian and Chozodia suit segment.
SDA don,t includes 9% normal mode records, my 9% time is over 4 minutes faster than ajbolt89 hard low-% time. Many points is possible beat faster 10% hard than 9% normal. He use SM route. his Kraid battle was really darn fast, because Kraid shot faster sickles and he have one SM against his mouth.
You are good runner Tonski. keep your speed up, you can get sub 50 minutes
I think i try sub 2 hours any-% run someday. low-% don,t interested me right now.
I think Kip low-% hard mode run is very easy improve, but i really wonder why nobody never try beat that. It is easy get sub 3 hours, because this my normal mode low-% run was pretty avarage and i am amateur 3d metroid speedrunner.
This run is very easy improve, i think almost 10 minutes or more.
Dark samus was good enought, took couple deaths
Empy 1 in three round Empy 2 it was good Empy 3 Pretty horrible i miss couple screw attack hit and i lose at least 1-2 minutes
Emperor ing battle suck.  I beat this in first tries
Quadraxis is hardest battle in the game and Quadraxis went very good. Everythink works and i died only 4-5 times.
My Dark samus 2 segment was pretty horrible. It was almost 2 minutes slower than my best any-% run segment.
My Spider guardian segment was almost 1-2 minutes slower than my current any-% run. I hate this boss and i don,t have enought patience try beat that fast enought
This don,t look as good than my current any-% run. My Screw attack segment was pretty horrible because i miss roll jump at least 4 times. There is one hard roll jump in screw attack room before screw attack.
-I,ve must be beat PB guardian early, because you don,t can get early power bombs on low-%.
-I get seeker launcher before Chykka, because chykka is faster and easier if you have 10 missiles max
-My route was different than any-% route. I get dark suit because you need it on low-% run.
-This is pretty avarage run, but my clear time surprised me, it was only 3 minutes slower than djgrenola 20% with secret worlds run. and my goal was sub 3 hours.
-36 segments (35 save point) -I don,t use secret worlds. -I don,t skip grapple beam -Only 22% items: 0 et, 50 beam, 2pb, 10 missiles
I finally beat my normal mode 22% run.
Best time low-% 22%: 2.47
Tonski you have change get 43-44 minutes if you keep your speed up. I remember MR.X MB battle was almost minutes faster than my best battle ever. I don,t understand this, but probably my MB battle suck little bit. We can see.
MR.X one best low-% player ever. He beat 1% SS Fusion in 1.06 & he beat Zero mission 9% segmented run in 46 minutes.
I think you can beat MR.X 46 minutes time if you want.
Only 59 sec slower than my best. Keep it up.
go go go Tonski.
Are you new moderator Jagger-G? I wonder your name reads green color text.
After i complete my 100% 56.38 run. I found couple little time saver, but too late. I think i can improve my 100% time sub 56 minutes, but i think i am lazy try that again because my 56.38 was one best run ever what i ever complete. It looks like minutes faster than DD SS run because i use 14 save points here, i think new single segment records can be very high 54 minutes. But i don,t have enought concenstration doing that single segment.
EDIT: His must be back Ridley lair later game i think it made game slower, but there is many faster place if you use that route. If route itself is slower than WR route, there are still probably couple good time saver solved out on console.
But probably this video includes couple new speedtrick and probably better route.
I don,t see idea why he get varia suit early because i don,t watched all segments yet.
I don,t know is it his route faster than WR route, but it pretty interesting route and this run looks human skill possible.
Last escape was pretty darn slow on TAS. His escape was 4.02 time left and my best escape on console is 2 seconds faster than his TAS ( My best Chozodia escape is 4.04.1x time left and SPidey Widey is 0.20 seconds faster than me). Yeah this is pretty human skill run expect power grip pit. Annoying there are only 7 part +last escape available.
This run is TAS but it is pretty slow TAS run. His run looks like human skills possible. His clear time is 54.08.
I find one 100% TAS run on youtube. He use different route than WR player.
But definitely this run includes lot good speedtrick. I think it is possible complete 100% in 54 minutes on console.
Route itself is so weird, it is probably very hard get that Chozodia first energy tank without screw attack. And when your must be back Ridley lair again it took lot time.
I think one good time saver is skip first gate/pirate alert on suitless samus part. It save almost 5 seconds game time. I think it is very possible on console. Almost all his TAS tricks is possible doing out on console. I think this run was pretty human skill run.
Just like his one left side room missile expansion in kraid lair, you can made ball jump quickly and grap ziplines.  It is definitely 1-2 seconds faster method than my.
I think route itself is slower but this run includes lot good stuffs.
I finally watch all parts. What i find, annoying there are no all parts available yet.
Well MR.X is back. Probably we can see lot very good low-% run here in near future.
Actually you can get sub 45 minutes, probably sub 44 if you keep your speed up.
I think it is easier take hit if you wait when boss jumps. It is little manipulate but overall pretty simple trick. If you have really much lucky you can kill Empy 3 really fast, i think in 10-15 seconds. But my battle took almost every attempt almost one minutes or more.
I find that trick over years ago. And i use that my current any-% run and my current low-% run.
I think fire powers help you much more than energy tanks. +Speedbooster or hi jump can help you much with Tourian escape.
Don,t collect energy tanks, my opinion it is better if you get only couple SM expansions and at least 2 missile expansions (4-6 missile max). You can get 6 optional items if you try 15% ending.
I recommend. If you have trouble made single wall jumps, hi jump boots can help you with tourian escape. But if you have trouble made bomb jump speedboosters are good/better idea.
Long beam skip is pretty Uncessary/worse trick if you don,t try perfect run. Hive room save really much time if you have long beam. It is reason why long beam way is only 12-15 sec slower.
My best time in norfair save after power grip is 5.54 (without long beam) & 6.06 with long beam, i lose only 12 seconds.
Long beam skip is only about 12-20 seconds faster way.
Is it possible beat Boost Guardian in three round in low-% hard mode? I think i never can survive 4 rounds alive.
I can drain 50-75% his energy in 3 round but everytime fourth round is too hard beat and i died, because boss break all pillars and i lose all my energy and light ammos, and everysingle hits kill instantly.
Right now i working on hard mode 22% run. I really have trouble beat Boost guardian, it is at least 65% harder hard mode than normal mode battle.
I decide try 22% hard mode run.  Because normal mode low-% was pretty easy, Quadraxis was only hard part and it took only 5 deaths.
Hopefully i beat that someday.
I survive only one time his fourth round but i died and boss have 25% energy left, my third round was pretty bad because I don,t have light ammos, i think it is very close 3 round possible. Kip battle was in 5 round and it looks good because Kip was died many times.
In 2 round is 99,9% impossible, because you don,t can drain enought his energy because last half energy metter is 50% longer  than first half. And my best first round was 50% his energy metter (same as kip), but boss is very randomly, i don,t understand reason why boss going boost ball form everytime too early.
Still in three round must be INCREDIBLE HARD!!
Well thanks.
I can du pre Draygon shine spark (half) but i think it is as fast as regular way, probably only little bit faster. And it is still too hard apply speedrun because it is very easy mess up that after Botwoon.
It is very hard made pre Draygon shine spark perfectly. Your must be jump first before shine spark super jump. My opinion it is almost impossible on PAL versio.
It is very hard work improve that.
-There is still something little mistakse everywhere, but still this was overall very good SS run on PAL versio. I have many very good parts, many little things went very good.
-I miss simply Brinstar early SM mock ball one time -I miss maridia main street missiles shine spark one time. -I miss Kraid quik kill -I miss first wrecked ship shine spark one time -My Botwoon was in 5 round, if i remember right -My Draygon was avarage, i miss couple SM shots. But still i was pretty happy -I miss early springin ball glitch 6-7 times, but it was still pretty good because  enemy freeze is 100% lucky.
-Everythink else working very well here.  -I was extremely lucky because i get gauntlet items without backtrack. I miss that jump almost 80-90% of the time. It surprised me because i don,t miss that this time.
-This was very good 100% SS run, only expect was Phantoom, because it was only horrible fight in my run. I miss many shots and i have bad manipulate luck against Phantoom, better Phantoom fight can be save 1 minutes or even 2 minutes, but anyway.
-No save points. -Complete slower PAL versio -3 minutes slower than my best segmented run
Best time 100% single segment: 1.13 (PAL- versio)
You definitely can improve this. Sub 1.10 sounds still too crazy. I think you need very good luck and much skills.
I think i don,t have motivations try that again because i am sure i next time miss gauntlet items jumps.
But well 100% run is at least as hard as any-%, there is don,t as much places died, but backtrack places scared me. Just like gauntlet items top my list. I miss that very often. But luckily i was very lucky man my SS run.
Any-% SS scared me.  Because there is lot place ruin this run. Just like Phantoom. and of course Ridley only 5 ET max and MB battle can be irritating because barrier glitch drain little bit your energy and your must be save at least 3 et left. MB fire attack ruin your run almost instantly, if you forget dodge this. It damage at least energy tanks your energy and you need at least 3 et left.
I think when you play SS run especially 100% SS run. your must be have lot manipulate luck almost everywhere. SS run is much harder than segmented run, you definitely made lot mistakes +Most bosses attack pretty randomly and many spot just like early SB glitch, gauntlets items jumps is little manipulate without dying. 100% run includes lot hard tricks you need extremely much skills and overall good luck and perfect concenstration if you planned beat perfect run.
Under 1.10 100% SS on PAL versio. damn. I can say it is incredible difficult.  Only expect Hotarubi, he is incredible SS runner. I still little bit wonder is it his run real because his manipulate refill, boss luck looks like TAS.
6-7 ET is too much. It caused lot backtrack.
Well better boss fights definitely saves lot time. And speedtrciks can save time. You probably can du sub 1.10 SS, but i think it is definitely much harder than you fancy.
Kraid quick kill save almost 30 seconds. Don,t minutes. I kill that pretty fast without quick kill.
I lose at most 40 seconds when i miss that 6-7 times.
Early SB first don,t save as much as you said. When you get out room. I remember game clock stopped when you going in door and get out room.
Wrong!
I know this is one hardest low-% bosses in video game history.
I think i try practice that 4-5 energy tank max before real challenge, because i need good order save my ammo and kill him legs. But if somebody have good order beat that. Tell it me.
Normal mode is much easier because you can kill his all legs light beam only in one round. But you need SM shots hard mode and one round legs kill is impossible here.
Is it good idea save couple light beam charge against his second form just like Kip? First form is very hard if you try safe your light ammos.
4:leg: i don,t beat that yet
3 leg: I don,t have good way beat that, but i use super missiles and light beams combinations everywhere.
2 leg: Light beam charge and light beam regular shots
1 leg: Super missile, light beam charge and couple light beam regular shots. Same as Kip
My method.
I am curious what is MR.X method when you beat that? is it your method different than Kip?
But well can anybody give little tips beat Quadraxis easily?
2.51 minutes before Quadraxis save points.  I know it is slow, but i don,t have motivations speedrun my low-% hard mode run, because this challenge is hard enought beat only.
Well my next part is Quadraxis my low-% hard mode.
Wish me luck.
Next encounter is Emperor ing and Dark Samus, i really want hope Emperor ing & DS is easier than Quadraxis. But i don,t know is it?
This battle was 100% hell.
My second form methdos looks like Kip, but i don,t have light beams, because i lose all light beams against his first form.
Leg 3-4: Sm shots and light beam combinations. Last two legs caused lot trouble, i don,t never found easy way. It is lucky time.
Leg 1: Two light beam charge and regular shots. first leg is destroyed Leg 2: Light beam charge and regular shots and i dodge his red seeker bomb attack with bosst ball. and i continued shots regular light shots.
I find better order beat his first leg form than kip. I trying many different strategy. My final method was good because it was easy way beat two first legs.
Quadraxis was INCREDIBLE DIFFICULT. It took 3 days beat and Normal mode low-% battle took only 5 attempt. That hard mode fight was definitely 65% harder and reason was his first leg form.
I finally beat Quadraxis my low-% hard mode run. I have 21% items right now. Light suit is last item what i need yet.
But 51 min SS is extremely great time. My best SS is 56 minutes and it was good run IMO. I see man, your skills is very high.
I think Wassupdawgs segmented run don,t includes double core-x trick. It save lot frame if you use that against everysingle core-x. And Wassup run includes almost 20 save it took almost 2 minutes. game time
I think 48 SS is theoretical very possible. I think it is still easier than 53 minutes 1% SS.
I think Cpaldow best time US version is 35 min and PAL version 42 min. PAL version is definitely slower. Sub 40 minutes run on PAL looks like pretty much hotarubi run on US or JPN.
There is lot little difference everywhere.
Well PAL version is slower but it is especially much harder speedrun.  You need perfect frame timing when you going in doors. All doors stopped your speed if you shoot wrong time or something.
THISI IS AWESOME!!!!!!!!! :P
I AM SO HAPPY MAN RIGHT NOW.
But i finally beat this. I am first man in Finland.
-Last dark samus took almost two hours beat and many deaths, it was very irritating because i miss everytime something easy mistakses here.
-Emperor ing 3 phase was incredible hard, i was lucky i beat that after 1 hour but only 16 energy point left.
-Boost guardian was incredible tought, it took 2 days and many deaths -Quadraxis was top my list, took 3 days and many tries beat.
-there is 4 Extremely difficult boss.
-This run was pure hell, i lose 13 minutes kip time, but i don,t care, this is incredible accomplishment.
Best time low-% 22% HARD MODE: 3.50
I FINALLY COMPLETE THIS.  :P
I think i never want try that again, but my time really suck. I don,t skip ing hive keys, because it is big risk pass pirate commando attack and two flying pirates after Quadraxis.  But anyway, i don,t care my clear time. This is probably my best accomplishment ever what i made. 8-)
Empy third worm was hard, still my method was better than kip. I use screw attack only + all 50 annibeam shots.  I was very lucky because it is randomly time wait when boss use jump attack. I was very close death, i survive only 16 energy point left.
Actually most bosses was pretty easy beat and game itself was pretty easy. Actually there is only 4 very hard boss encounter. Of course Amorbis was pretty hard but i think it was especially irritating than hard.  Chykka was long but overall simple.
MR.X 22% hard mode attempt give me lot motivatios try that challenge.
It took days beat that challenge, i started that two weeks ago, but i planned that 5-6 months.
Thanks Tonski and Doniss.
go go go guys!!!
It is so interesting see sub 3 hours 21% hard mode run.  21% hard is too hard for me because i don,t can du grapple skip.
I lose only 13 minutes kip time and i don,t trying speedrun. It is easy improve that time and this site includes much better echoes player than me. I am bit amateur sbreakker, but enought skillfull player beat 22% low-% hard mode. My empy/darksamus segment took only 16 minutes. it was much faster than kip. Screw attack really is good way against empy 3.
Kip run is really old it is really ancient run. Go go guys, get,s that time out. low-% hard is not too hard beat. I beat low-% hard, MR.X is very close beat that.
But that is still too hard speedrun because watcstation, grapple skip, transit station and hall of combat mastery is really hard complete all in one go and without dying. It took lot time. I think very early screw attack and PB without spider ball save almost 2 minutes and it is much harder, i made easily 5-10 minutes mistakes in this segment and i don,t never test grapple skip, i think roll jump onto the robot is very hard, it looks hard when S_E play that.
EDIT: It finally working. I spend couple hours and it finally grap. I test that second time and it grap once again and took only 3-4 attempt. It is sometimes little randomly and it timing was hard find, but i finally find it or i was lucky.
Why it don,t never working?
But well i can du that sometimes. But i don,t never can jump in bomb slot. It is absolutelu too hard. I read many times metroid2002 main pages and i watch sparky video, but i don,t understand why it don,t never grap bomb slot for me. I try manytimes and many different jumps style. Sparky is bit crazy he don,t mess up that jump. What is midair morph?
I practice multiple hours that watch station jump. I finally can go onto the spider track. I find simple place made triple bsj. Tripple bsj sometimes piss me off, because it is harder than single and double bsj. It give same more height as double but camera situation is difference and your must be push faster your buttons.
go go go, you can good change get sub 43, probably sub 42 this time, if you have enought patience manipulate your luck. I think your patience can help you much if you want get sub 40 min 9% run. Your first segment was only one, it was too slow. I think you have good change get sub 40 next time, but you need insane amount manipulate luck.
Robot Rildley rock my run. It was insane good part, but still possible 4-5 seconds faster. I working 3 days my Robot ridley battle
I know my kraid part was pretty crappy, because after Kraid i was too nervous and i made at least 8-10 seconds pure mistakes. Tourian second part is easy improve because i miss 4-5 rinkas refill and MB battle what MR.X said his battle was at least 40 seconds faster than me. I don,t understand how it possible. I think his manipulate luck was perfects.
Sounds like good. Only minutes behind for me.
I must be practice lot before i started my sub 2 hours run. My current records is 2.07 and i complete 22% hard mode in 3.50. I think i have enought skill try that, but 8 minutes is too much with my current route, i need that grapple skip route my next run.
djgrenola say he find easy way grapple skip, but annoying his flash player suck in archiveorg and i don,t can watch easier grapple skip video. He speak about scan dash, but scan dash (aka kip dash) is hardest move in the game, i can du that under 1% of the time. Roll jump is easier one, but it spot is hard find because it flying robot fly away.
I think i want try grapple skip my next run, it save lot ime and that new route total can be save at least 6 minutes , many peoples say it is very hard skip grapple, and watch station, grapple skip, transit station withouts spider ball is absolutelu too luck base on human.
I think that is very hard way apply speerdun. I think it is easier and only two minutes slower get spider ball before screw attack. I think i lose 5 minutes time too much if i don,t get that spider ball early.
I think it is good idea use save before hall of combat mastery, but it save took at least 30 seconds time. Hall of combat mastery bsj assist screw attack is randmly too, i took sometimes many tries, i find that alternate methods. It is still easier than instant unmorhph, but still randomly too.
Transit station is top my list, it is hard, because first screw attack in PB pit took couple tries, i find pretty good spot jump in hole, i can sometimes du that 25-50% of the time, but sometimes only 5% of the time. PB pit bsj is hardest one, it is so randomly get out here, sometimes it took mutiple minutes, because bsj give randomly more heights. S_E miss that manytimes too. I remember he say his hard SS comments he lose 1.40 minutes in transit stations.
I can du watch station moprh slot jump almost 25% of the time and bsj onto lower track took sometimes couple tries, ghetto can be easier way but there is no flashplayer video where i can watch that camera spot made ghetto. I finally find double bsj spot, but it took time find that, because triple bsj is too frustrating apply speedrun
I practice many hours still it is too luck base use that route. I lose always 3-5 minutes too much time
I planned use new route my next any-% run. Wow!!!   Sancturary fortress is extremely tought place.
EDIT******25th may**********
You hate emperor ing. Me too. It battle was so hard on hard mode low-%. You need at least 7-8 screw attack under him and boss attack hurt so much. And him first phase was irritating too, because it is long, i beat that in three-four rounds
Well flying pirates scared me. I skip ing hive keys my low-% normal and survive save my game only 39 energy point left, flying pirate attack is very dangerous especially hard mode. It is easy way get ing hives keys because alternate route go save game after Quadraxis is very easy.
*****Post 18 th may****** Thanks MR.X.
Grapple skip can be real pain, that picture can help little bit. He talking about scan dash, mean he kip dash (screen freeze scan dash)? I think i forget that method if he mean kip dash, because it kip dash is too hard, it working very randomly for me and caused lot trouble everytime.
I think that watch station is not too hard place apply speedrun, i think it is even easier than transit station and hall of combat mastery. Biggest trouble if i decide use that route is transit station PB pit bsj, it is easy, but extremely randomly, sometimes it took lot time and it can ruin my speedrun. And annoying it is last part in long segment.
I don,t know is it any easier, faster or better than bsj method, but it is nice way and pretty easy.
Thanks doniss. I test that and it working very well.
But anyway 9% is pretty hard first time, it is good reason practice 15% run before real challenge.
Yeah 15% =Any-% run
Well all zero low-% challenges is overall pretty easy beat expect that 9% Hard PAL and only real insane hard part there is 4 barriers/zebetite.
9% normal is pretty hard run first time, i remember i working long time my first completion. There is two hard encounter, i think Mother brain and Mecha Ridley get many attempt first time.
But well i wait you 9% segmented run, you are hard man too.
9% nomal SS is real pain, it is luck time because mecha ridley attack randomly attacks and it is last fight in the game.
I trying 9% SS run many times almost year ago, but always i miss my run, something easy mistakes. Right now my ZM low-% skills are pretty rusty, i beat my latest low-% run couple months ago.
But if you don,t try speedrun, that is easy place IMO.
But that is really hard speedrunning, all metroids room wihout backtrack save. I doing that my current run and it took 2 hours beat metroid first half all rooms all in the one go, without backtrack save.
First metroid part is easy place on low-% hard if you save your game after everysingle metroid room.
Echoes low-% is real pain, i really working really hard my hard mode low-% run, it was hardest low-% run what i ever complete. Took only 2 weeks without trying any speed.
Zero is probably easiest low-% game, only expect that SS is irritating because i hate failed my run everytime when somethink bad haapen and i miss something easy point, just like last time Tourian escape & tourian metroids. Space pirate segment can be hard too, because only one little mistake and you game is over.
1% run in fusion is pretty easy, but SS is absolutelu too randomly, There is 3 main boss took always couple deaths (Yakuza, Nightmare and Rildley) biospark is bit crazy, i really wait see his video.
Well Super metroid low-% is insane, i watch Smokey boss battles, i think i never can survive against Ridley or Mother brain. MB kill instantly.
10 Megalops room with screw attack method (it is easiest i think, probably as fast as ghetto method) 11 save point in maingyro chamber 12 way to go battle against spider guardian
9 I think i skip hall of combat mastery trick my second visit, because i,ve must be active dark portal before Quadraxis. S_E active that already his first visit. I think it is bit comfortable jump over spider track in first visit, because it is easier segment complete than this one.
7 Screw attack (i skip dark portal number 2 with roll jump, just like my 2.07 run.) 8 Transit station without spider ball, well that PB pit took sometimes several tries, because it is bit lucky rise up here.
6 I don,t think skip grapple this time, because that dash don,t never give distance for me. I du something wrong, i think.
5 Watch station without spider ball with bsj method. I can du that room sometimes very often without dying.
4 Main gyro chamber puzzle 1 and save.
3 Megalops room with boost methods. I timed it and it is 1 seconds faster than ghetto method.
1 Double bsj over quad room. 2 Instant unmorph over hall of combat mastery spider track. I finally can du that, but it took sometimes several tries, but probably i can apply that if i have patience restart my game much enought
Well what peoples thinking my sanctuary fortress route, how much it is slower? And is it possible use that? I think it is possible but it is little bit different than S_E, but i think as fast as expect grapple skip. Reads that carefully.
EDIT: 28.th may****************
EDIT 2: I just test that jump about 200 times in dark forgoten bridge, but why it don,t never give distance enought? I watch S_E video many times and he can jump much longer jump than me. What i du wrong??
EDIT: I remember when i test that scan dash, it give same more distance as regular jump. Can i jump onto the robot regular jump too?
I don,t know is it easy, but it looks.
Thanks djgrenola it looks like easy.
*****27- th may post****
His run includes many very weird thing. Is it his run complete in PAL versio? Includes PAL versio some difference than NTSC?
4 His scan dash give everytime much distance, my scan dash give always same more as regular jump. He can jump dark forgoten bridge gap with scan dash, i need roll jump.
3 He can jump bsj without camera trick, his camera looks like so weird, just like he jump polluted mire single bsj. His camera looks crazy, i can jump that too, but i need camera trick +double bsj and it took several tries, almost impossible apply speedrun.
2 He get first beam ammos without shooting block around a room. I don,t know how he can jump enought long jump. I test that many, many times, but jump don,t give enought distance cross that long gaps before beam ammo expansion
1 He jump high floaty jump onto the ledge in doomed entry (first dark room after first dark samus), I don,t understand how it is possible, it never give enought heights. It looks like ghetto, but he don,t need getting hit wall. Is it ghetto possible without getting hit wall? He use that trick almost everywhere game.
I watch S_E videos once again before i started my run. His video looks like crazy, it includes much no human tricks. There is many spots, but i don,t understand how he can made these tricks:
I just started my real run, i hopefully can get sub 2 hours this time. I have at least 1 minutes ahead my 2.07 run after first dark samus.
Well Thomaz is back. hopefully we can see your sub 30 run someday. You have couple seconds ahead my 29.55 run, it is good change get sub 30 this time.
Sub 42 min 9% run is my opinion much more frustrating than any-% sub 30 minutes. If you try any-% run next you can get at least 31 minutes probably sub 30 minutes.
Tonski. You have master skills with zero mission. I really wonder your run sounds very good. Only 1.06 behind my 41.35 low-% run run. I working two weeks that my low-% run. Sub 30 any-% took only 3 days.
20 against glass and over 30 against eye.
I remember you need almost 50 hit against MB.
My MB battle is definitely possible complete faster, I remember that MR.X battle was almost 40-50 sec faster than me. My method is bit weird, i jumping always onto the boss ledge and i freeze and kill rinkas here. It is definitely bit slower way, but much easier, because i never falling acid pool. Still sub 3 min MB segment must be incredible fast, almost impossible.  My own segment was 3.4x somethink.... Mr.X segment was sub 3 min. I think your must be beat boss itself in one minutes, because it escape took 45-50 sec and trip in chozodia save took time too.
Yeah manipulate refill drops suck. It is irrtating
But wish me luck. This segment suck, i really can hate speedrun that segment. Too much luck base, and irritating PB refill manipulation drops before save point. It can be randomly time and i have always bad luck if everything else working.
I don,t happy my segment yet i definitely try later again improve that. I complete much good attempt but always that transit station PB pit rising ruin my run. It is so hard made without dying.
Well my run sounds like pretty good. I have almost 6 minutes ahead my 2.07 run in manigyro chamber (i have very good change get at least 2.01 run). I decide try that new screw attck before spider ball route, i get 1.14 after screw attack. This segment was pretty crappy. I miss roll jump 2 times, watch station bsj jump i miss two times and transit station bsj jump i miss 3 times and i don,t trying that hall of combat mastery trick, because it is extremely randomly and this segment is very hard.
I don,t know that, but if in-game clock don,t run, hall of combat mastery instant morph trick is pretty uncessary apply speedrun, because you can going in dark world and it took almost 10 seconds game time. Portal sub programs took almost 10 more seconds, but i don,t know running in game clock between portal animation.
Running in-game  clock when you going inside dark or light portal?
My little speedrun questions:
Are you planned 100% runs on PAL? My best is 1.10 and best SS 1.13.
But very great job man. You beat my own PAL segmented run whole 6 minutes.
Tonski break his SNES controls when he try torizo skips. This must be very hard even impossible on console and especially PAL versio single segments run.
Define you torizo skip your mistakes?
When you use power bomb against Spider guardian, Spider guardian died and your must be restart your game. It is uncessary glitch, but fun thing. Is anybody trying that?
This don,t real glitchs, but it is pretty weird thing.
Dark samus: 5.33 time left.
-Empy and DS segment in 5 minutes, just like S_E Amazing Empy battle. Form 1 in one round Form 2 amazing Form 3 Very fast anni beam fight and one screw attack under him
BEst time: 1.58
******EDIT*************
Well i don,t know try i ever new any-% normal run, probably i try 1.58 ending yet. Somedays i definitely try improve my hard mode run. My run hard mode any-% run suck, because my best hard mode time is 2.59 heh!!! it is one hours slower than my normal mode run.
I use lot new boss trick, just like i decide beat grapple guardian without first phase scan. Boost gaurdian in one round kill feel too hard, i decide beat fast 2 rounds battle.
Of course my run includes is much mistakes. LAst segment was probably slowest part, i think i can get 1.58 if i can du perfect last segment.
-My Quadraxis segment was very well, one best segment my run. Actually it was bit faster than S_E segment. My segment took only 8 minutes beat, S_E segment took 9 minutes.
-Well i decide get screw attack before spider ball. It segment took long time beat, because it was hard. I finally get almost perfect segment, i don,t miss transit station PB pit up rising, it took lot restart for me.
-Well my run itself was very good, there is much very good segments and boss battles. I use S_E route, but expect i don,t skip grapple beam.
-Segment itself was still only 1 minutes slower than S_E segment. I think my time is very high 1.59.
-I  hate that Empeor ing battle because it is very randomly and sometimes when i use anni beam and screw attack combination, boss restores his energy without any reasons. And i,ve must be restart my game. Dark samus was avarage too, it was almost 20 sec slower than my best. I don,t miss any shots, but my manipulate luck was avarage once again.
-NO secret worlds -39% items -25 segment (24-save point) -8 minutes faster than my previous -Well finally sub two hours. -I think i try get 1.58 ending later, because my last segment was bit slow. Empy 1 in two rounds, 2nd form was amazing and third form bit avarage, my manipulate luck bit suck and boss use only two jump attack. I must be use anni beam shots against his mouths, because boss don,t like made jump attack today.
Best time: 1.59
But good luck MR.X with your run. Yours skills are very high. Definitely can complete this one if you have patience enought try.
I probably can planned try 21% normal mode run someday, if i learn that grapple skip. Today i just learn that R-dash jump i probably can try grapple skip someday. Doniss give good tips and finally can manage that trick and it is pretty easy.
You are right Kip run is theoretically really easy beat, only problem is beat that hard mode run. I think i beat that only one time, i don,t have any interesting try speedrun that again. 3.50 time suck ass but well it is probably hardest accomplishment ever what i made. Much harder than under 2 hours any-% normal run IMO.
21% without SW and 17% with SW hard mode can be really hard. I don,t know which is harder. 17% SW run don,t includes Quadraxis fights and Quadraxis is very hard on hard mode low-% run. Took 3 days and multiple hours beat that my 22% hard mode run.
Well i don,t care very much watch or speedrun secret worlds runs. NO SW runs interested me.
I test that new Blue Brinstar route before Tourian. It was at most 1 seconds faster than regular route.
EDIT: I test new TAS tricks on console. That first pirate alert looks easy but it is much harder what it looks. I trying almost 30-50 tries but only two times i avoid that first pirate, but second pirate activate always that alerts. My zero skills are very rusty right now, but i think it is still too hard apply speedrun.
It is interesting see 27.xx run on console. It is very possible, because Spidey time was 28.04 and game includes many new time saver. I think Transience route is still best choise on console. KRaid first route is too good, because Jagger-g get sub 30 using Kraid first route. I think Kraid first route is still bit slower than Ridley first on console.
Great job man. But next: It is time get Transience console run down. Spidey Widey beat his time once, but he don,t never recorded that.
But i still see there is much interesting time saver what i belive possible made on console. I think that suitless samus first alert is possible avoid on console, it looks pretty easy if you have fast refleks. Faster Robot Rildley is possible too, because i test that couple months ago, but it is 100% random apply speedrun. I can beat Robot ridley sometimes almost as fast as TAS, but i don,t never have enought patience apply that my speedrun.
New route surprised me so much. I am sure that route is don,t best choise on console, because it includes much NO human tricks and impossible timesavers. It definitely is bit slower route on console.
Very great TAS run.
EDIT 2***** I test R-dash new updates. I can du combat visor R-dash. It working as good as scan visor R-dash. It is harder find right camera spot because enemys moves everytime.
I think this method is fast enought, it is almost 10-12 sec slower than Sparky method, but much easier. Hopefully peoples understand what i mean. My explains sounds like very complicate, because this is hard explain and my english suck little bit, but anyway.
4- When Samus stay up onto the ledge, Jump easy ghetto onto the upper ledge, and continued screw attack and get energy tanks. (Altenate you can going in morph ball cannon, it is as fast as screw attack, i think.)
3-when you are opposite higher platform, launch your boost ball and unmorph fast just before when you getting hit a wall. If you manage that right, Samus stay up onto the ledge. That unmorph timed is pretty precise. It can took several tries first time. But overall it is pretty easy when you learn it. I can sometimes du that 3-4 times successive without dying. This not too hard, but sometimes pretty randomly.
2-Go right side upper spider track and load your boost ball fully. (that spot is pretty precise)
1-Your must be kill sporb enemy your power bomb because it is very annoying
-My own little method sounds like crazy, but i can du that very often. It is much easier what i thinking.
-This is slower than sparky method, but much easier, and much faster than orginal method. I working almost one hour that sparky method, but it doesn,t work never. And i decide find own method.
Torvus plaza energy tanks: My method:
Well i find couple new trick.
EDIT: 13.june**********
This not easy way, but probably bit easier than rezbitz method. It slower too, not much slower but i think it is almost 10 seconds slower.
1-Use single bsj assist screw attack onto the reactor edge 2-Jump regular space jump onto the reactor blue cap. 3-When you are opposite energy tank, jump screw attack in hole and get energy tank.
My third alternate method is bit slower but my opinion bit easier than rezbitz method. But still hard.
I find third alternate method get reactor core early energy tank without spider ball and without rezbitz. There is two older methods:
*****post 11.june******
I hate spider guardian so much with speedrun.
When you ask what i hate when i speedrun any-% normal.?
But i hate very much Quadraxis and emperor ing in low-% hard mode. Quadraxis is very hard and annoying and Emperor ing third phase was so randomly manipulation.
There is most bosses what i hate and what i love.
What hell he mean? My opinion your must be visit  darkworld just like Sparky. My opinion your must be visit dark world and your must be complete that boost ball puzzle. Can anybody explain what he mean about this?
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Winchamber no dark world : 30secs
SILENT ECHO WROTE 20th.feb.2006*********
What about is this sunburst speedtrick? You can get sunburst without going dark world.
I read lot old echoes topics, but i don,t never find answers my questions.
Took several tries find bsj spot and that jump was pretty randomly because it ledge was very narrow.  Pretty hard/annoying trick apply speedrun.  But well i can du it now. 8-)
Thanks Doniss. Well it really working!!! :P
That second method was hard when i watch your second video. It doesn,t work yet but i was lazy practice that because that scarlet method was much better, easier & almost as fast as.
Well thanks. I test that scarlet method and it was pretty easy, even easier than my own method, it working very well, took only couple failed attempt for me. Scarlet method was bit faster than my own method, i think 5-7 seconds faster than my own.
go go go
I think it looks at least 31 min run on NTSC versio, even 30 min
40 SS on PAL is seriously crazy time too. But well yeah i really want see that your 35 min segmented. IT IS SO CRAZY WORK!!! sounds even impossible.
I don,t sure is it possible get light suit before Quadraxis with SW.
Your must be active ing hive & sanctuary energy before light suit.
Light suit before Quadraxis is impossible IMO.
Who is next? Good luck!!! And thanks piccolocube your previous comments.
2.29 clear time
0.04 great temple 0.09 Agon wastes 0.27 Agon wastes before DS 0.30 Dark agon wastes 0.37 Before Amorbis 0.43 Agon wastes 0.46 Torvus lagoon 0.50 HD station 0.51 after first dash 0.51 after second dash 0.55 Before grapple guardian 0.59 before boost guardian 1.02 after boost guradian 1.04 before chykka 1.17 Samus aran ship 1.20 Great temple 1.25 main gyro chamber 1.33  Main gyro chamber after screw attack and PB 1.41 After Spider guardian 2/9 key 1.46 Ing hive before Quadraxis 1.56 Great temple 2.00 HD station 3/9 key 2.06 Dark agon wastes 4/9 key 2.17 Sky temple
HARD MODE any-% sub times
1.58 clear time
0.04 great temple 0.08 Agon wastes 0.22 Agon wastes before DS 0.25: Dark agon wastes 0.32 Torvus bog 0.36 HD station 0.37 HD station after first dash 0.37 HD station after second dash 0.40 Before grapple guardian 0.45 Before Boost guardian 0.47 After boost guardian 0.48 before Chykka' 0.55 After chykka 0.58 Samus aran ship 1.01 Great temple 1/9 key 1.06 Main gyro chamber 1.13 Main gyro chamber after screw attack and PB 1.21 after Spider guradian 2/9 key 1.24 Ing hive before quadraxis 1.32 Great temple 1.36 HD station 3/9 key 1.42 Dark agon wastes 4/9 key 1.51 Great temple 8/9key 1.53 Sky temple
Normal mode 1.58 sub times:
I put my sub times, my both run:
Good points: -I grap 3 more missile expansions and one more B-ammo expansions -My Empy segment was good enought, fast third phase and fast dark samus. Quadraxis part was amazing too only one minutes slower than S_E WR segment on normal mode. Hard mode fight is longer too. -I use couple new tricks first time in my life, example scan dash onto the great bridge.
-Almost 10 minutes when i get dark suit -40-50 seconds in transit station (i miss hole jump two times and PB pit rising jump 3 times. I was lazy restart my game because everything else going good -Boost guaridian in 3 rounds (it good enought for me) -Spider guardian third maze, i falling one time down -Empy 1 in two round -First agon segment suck ass, i hate that segment.
My huge time lost:
-I beat my run in two day. Yeah i was bit lazy working that as perfect as my normal mode run.
-I use same route as my 1.58 normal mode run, expect i get dark suit, because Boost guardian is too hard without dark suit. I dont understand that in one round method, because it is never working for me.
30 minutes faster than my previous hard mode time, only 5 minutes slower than S_E hard mode WR SS run on SDA.
-NO secret worlds/wall craw -I use SDA time rules -44% items (5et, 75m, 200 b-ammo, 3pb) -25 segment (24 save)
Best time hard mode: 2.29
Well Tonski is back. Are you continued your 9% run?
I,ve must be say i beat 15% normal mode SS run long time ago and it was really easy, even much easier than hard mode any-% SS run. I beat 15% hard mode run before my 10% hard mode. 15% hard was easy too, i don,t never died against Robot ridley, because it was really easy with 3 SM max. I can say 15% hard was even easier than 9% normal. 10% hard mode is pretty tought challenge, you really need good skills here.
There is no points made 15% run because it is same category as any-% run, but well it is good place increase your skills. And if you want get your gallery pictures easily 15% is good choise.
Yeah 15% run is same as any-%. 9% is real low-% This is real speedrun rules. Right?
Mecha ridley & Dr phil encounter was so fun.
This was nice.
I know he get dark suit later game, but change he that item route? I started 100% test run and i am bit curious what is his item route. Annoying he never recorded his insane cool hard mode 100% run.
Is it his item route same as Sparky expect that dark suit?
My little questions about Silent echo 100% route.
Orginal prime is crazy game sbreak/speedrun. It is overal shorter game than echoes, but my best Echoes time is 1.58 and my best orginal prime time is 2.41. I don,t know why i don,t never learn made orginal Prime sequence breaks. That unmorph trick is top my list. It is very hard.
It is main reason why i don,t speedrun that game, this is very important trick it can save 10- even 20 minutes game time.
Don,t worry Secret key. I have same trouble. I am pratice that almost one year but i miss that always 50-100 times. I don,t never learn that unmorph trick. ](*,)  It is very hard for me.
But nice job man
I don,t can belive is it sub hour possible on console. We can see. But 1.07 SS was one coolest SS run what i ever see.
I don,t know how good is your 1.03 segmented run, because i don,t watching that yet.  But your 4 minutes slower SS run was incredible fast, i think 1.03 is EXTREMELY VERY FAST RUN!!!
I don,t see any mistakes your SS run. Only spot where i see little mistakes was PB maze after invisble dynamo drone, it was bit slow. But well everythink else working perfectly.
I Just finished watching your 1.07 SS run. It was very cool. LAst fight was perfect, even better than Kip segmented run last battle.
Great job
I don,t can understand why he calling that test run, because it is insane cool. Why he don,t recorded that?
Is it Sparky test run real console run? Using he cheats or something?
When i watching that sparky test run on youtube, it includes most crazy speedtricks, example elite pirate enemy boost in Phazon mines. And it looks overall bit faster than Zoid 1.03 IMO.
My questions:
-I improve my last segment. Emperor ing segment in 5 minutes -Empy 1 in one round -Empy 2 Avarage -Empy 3 Pretty good -Dark samus: 5.59 time left (Using sonic boom)
BEST 100% TIME: 2.42
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********EDIT 26. JUNE************
-I definitely can get 5 minutes faster run, even 10 minutes if i have crazy luck and much patience. 100% run was really hard beat. I think this don,t look as good as my 1.58 any-%, because i was too lazy working perfect run and that 100% was much harder and includes most crazy tricks.
-Overall i am happy my run, because i manage many difficult tricks without dying, example reactor core energy tank, hall of combat mastery M-expansion, main research M-expansion, transit station PB without spider ball and sunburst without dark world.
-My run includes very much little mistakes and pretty much saves. I was very lazy manipulate upper torvus pirates, because 100% game itself was very hard too.
-I get sunburst without dark world. This trick was pure hell apply speedrun, i spend lot time and i finally manage that without dying. It was very annoying because it was almost latest part in long segment. It really piss me off many times.
-I don,t use quad skip this time, because it locked reactor core save room and Sanctuary fortress includes many difficult trick. I really needed that save room my 100% run.
-This run includes many difficult speedtrick, i use pretty much same tricks as Sparky but i avoid couple very hard speedtricks. And my run includes many new tricks.
-My first 100% run -33 segment (32 save) -No secret worlds -This run was incredible difficult -I practice lot speed trick, before this run -My route was bit different than Sparky route, i get dark suit later game (after light suit) -My item order was bit different too, i change that little bit.
Best 100% time: 2.43
Sub 2 hours run was my 5th any-% accomplishment. Of course before that i beat many different category speedrun. Low-% hard mode challenge run was hardest one what i ever made. It really was harder than any speedrun ever what i am complete.
But overall it is easier get fast any-% run than fast 100% run.
1: Agon segment was very hard & borring 2: Screw attack segment was bit hard and annoying. Transit station is bit randomly and it is latest part in long segment 3: Spider guardian and Emperor ing is hard too.
I wait your sub 2 hours run next . You definitely can get it easily. Actually sub 2 hours mark is not too hard. Couple segments caused bit trouble for me.
Normal distance R-dash is very easy just like example: R-dash over dark forgoten bridge gaps is one easiest trick in the game.
When i beat my sub 2 hours run i don,t skip grapple and i don,t use that first scan dash shortcuts in vault, because both trick are really hard apply speedrun. Max distance scan dash is very hard, it can took easily 100 tries for me.
Yeah i remember you was very close. I remember your time was 2.05 right?
Well Rekameohs  is back. Wow thanks your compliments.
Without new timesavers/route changes it is absolutely impossible get under hour run. I think 1.01-1.02  is lowest possible time on console for human hands.
I watching almost all 13 segment and i,ve must be say, it was so cool. Who know is it console run or real time emulator (savestate) run without slowdown. But it looks bit cooler than Zoid. It was absolutely perfect. I belive his clear time is still much higher than 59. I think it is very high 1.01 or 1.02.
Sparky test run includes only 13 segments in youtube. I don,t know why he don,t never recorded his 2 last segments. But anyway
My english grammar suck hopefully you understand my points.
Hard mode low-% fight is most complicate, because first form is insanely difficult, and you need use both, SM and light shots against his legs and in one round legs kill is impossible here.  But i think you play normal mode.
Third phase is simple, use same idea as any-%.
When you jump screw attack his body antenna your must be remember one thing: There is 50% change choose right legs or wrong legs. If you choose wrong legs you not can jump onto the legs.
Second form strategy is easy. Jump screw attack against boss body antenna. When boss stunned, shot one SM, one charge and couple dark beam regular shots his head antenna. Alternate you can use two SM shots or light beam charge or light beam regular shots against his head antenna. When boss antenna died collect missile and energy refills around the room.
Boss drops energys around the room, everytime when legs died. Collect your energys fully and continued.
When first legs died, kill second legs same method and dodge boss attack. Third legs is pretty annoying, your must be fast. Fourth legs is probably bit easier.
Kill all legs in one round light beam only. When boss battle started shot light charge and couple regular shot against first legs. (you need light charge and 3-5 light beam regualar shots against per legs)
If you mean normal mode low-% boss this my method is best.
Sub 30 minutes goal is pretty hard, but i think much easier than sub 50 min on Fusion.
You are probably next sub 30 minutes man. You have very good Metroid Fusion skills and 31 is very good Zero Mission time. My own ZM time is 29.55. If you practice lot you definitely can get sub 30 minutes.
Nice time Secret key.
Emperor ing is pretty easy too, if you use screw attack under him when boss use jump attack. This method is much faster and easier than anni beam method. I think you don,t have much trouble here.
Congrats man. Quadarxis is pretty easy if you are fast, when you kill him. Hard mode battle is at least 50-65% harder, because it legs form is very long.
But yeah this is so nightmare segment on speedrun, because your must be beat flaahgra before that and this took easily more attempt for me. Flaahgra is hard too, because it last root jump is bit difficult and that unmorph trick is very difficult without dying.
I find new way unmorphing, sometimes it working easier than WR method.  I moved my stick and unmorph first and i morphing back and i stay onto the ledge with morph ball mode. This not very easy, but sometimes i can manage that bit easier than WR method.
I just practice lot that trick, sometimes i can manage that 3-4 times succesive, but sometimes when i lose my concentration this took easily 30 even 50 attempts. I don,t know why it sometimes working better and sometimes it took very much tries.
This is good alternate method if you have trouble made WR method.
WR method caused always much trouble because it camera is always wrong when i unmorph. If you use my method you don,t need that perfect camera setting.
Yeah if somebody have trouble made that unmorph onto the ledge. My method is probably easier, i can manage that own method almost 20% of the time, but WR unmorph method is almost impossible for me. My method is simply when last bomb explode turn joystick up right and unmorph without right camera setting and morphed back and stay onto the ledge with morph ball mode.
I am 6 min behind Stevan WR time in magmoor cavern, because i am getting 2 more ET and my Chozo fight was at least minutes slower than Stefan run.
Heh i finally manage that flaahgra artifact trick with my speedrun. i was very surprised, i complete this crazy segment in first attempt.
EDIT: I know that floaty jump method too, but i remember it working north american versio only.
But that my unmorph method what i founded yesterday, you don,t need perfect timing unmorph. When you unmorph and turn your stick you can going fast morph ball mode again and move fast onto the ledge with morph ball.
Yeah that,s true when you said if you unmorph proper time camera dont, going weird. I know that, it is WR method, but i timing is very presice, took easily more than 20-50 tries find that timing.
I du that bomb jump same way as WR Player, bomb jump itself don,t caused real trouble for me. It is pretty easy.
When i watch stefan WR PAL versio video, elite pirate don,t made that shield attack never.  I read lot that metroid2002 main page but i don,t found answers my questions.
Boss made that shiled attack everytime when i shooting rapid missiles against his head. How i can avoid that, just like Stefan?
How i can du elite pirate in one round kill? (without boss made shield attack) I don,t can avoid his shield attack never. This took lot time when i ve must be wait this attack.
Can anybody help me, because that is only room where i need spider ball. Everything else is possible complete without spider ball.
I watch Stefan metroid dash method, but i think it is definitely too hard for me, because i am suck dasher. Pirate low-% run method looks easier but i don,t understand why it doesn,t work. I trying that couple hours but it doesn,t work never. I probably don,t find right spot or my jump is too low or short.
My next questions is. Only room what i don,t can complete without spider ball is metroid quarantine A. How i can dut that with PAL versio.
I need help once again.
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It finally working. Dash method was better than jump IMO.
Thanks Sparky.
This is news to me.
Is it just R-dash what i need here?
Thanks Iowa & stefan. I go practice that.
Working that glitch with PAL versio? And how it working?
My next questions hopefully my last questions. How i can stunned Rildley with only one charge shot in his mouth. I need at least 3 charge when boss stunned. I watch video many times, but this not help me because i du that same way but boss don,t want stunned.
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I think i was very lucky. I kill all metroids before metroids kill pirates. When one Pirate falling phazon pool, i can jump combat dash front a door. That dash took several tries, but well i think it is easier than that jump method.
But well i finally complete metroid quarantine A without spider ball, i use space pirate dash method. It took several tries, but i finally manage that.
Well but yeah that was still too hard, i really think my jump heights was still too low, but it never stay onto the upper ledge, i think you need frame perfection jump or somethink.
But 13 min last segment without pool glitch is good enought. First form was fast enought.
I trying that pool glitch couple times, but it doesn,t work. It looks easier what it is. When i go pool with ice beam it don,t want shot hyper beam. And that glitch is overall so weird & complicate IMO.
-Last boss in 13 minutes. Without prime 2nd form pool gltich. Pool glitch can save at least 3 minutes.
Best time: 1.53
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-Overall my run was pretty suck, this don,t look same than my Echoes 1.58. My echoes run was really fast, but anyway Echoes is at least 3 times easier speedrun than orgianl prime. This game was hellishly hard. I am overall happy my run, but still last boss suck really. i really want get that faster than 8-9 pool.
I think if i practice that pool glitch i can get at least 1.51 ending, because my MP2 was in 8-9 pool fight. I know PAL versio boss have more energy than US versio boss, but still i can get faster fight than 15 minutes. My first form was good enought, i have little trouble his 4th chamber, but everythink else going very good.
-My last boss was suck ass. It took 15 minutes beat. I don,t understand that Pool glitch his 2nd form yet. It was so complicate IMO.
And thanks MR.X, you tell me that versio difference.
-I want thanks everybody peoples who helped me. Sparky give good tips beat elite pirate in one round. Thanks Stefan & Iowa too.
-MQA. THansk my own space pirate dash method. Metroid dash feel too hard and R-dash was impossible for me. Space pirate dash was slowest method, but i think it was easiest one.
-Geo core was hard too.
-Ore prosessing took first time 1-2 hours, but i finally understand that and it was actually pretty easy.
-I finally skip spider ball it really surprised me, because there is couple incredible difficult trick. Bomb rising unmorph after flaahgra was so hard, i can du that almost 20% of the time, thanks my own unmorph method
-I use same route as sefan 1.09 but i change two route: 1: I dont use hard flying pirate dash in tallon over world, i use chozo ruins back track 2: I don,t use thardus dash. It is most difficult trick in the game.
-Wow my second speedrun is 46 minutes better than my previous one -23-segment (22-save) -41% item (6-et 50m 4pb)
Best time: 1.55 (PAL-versio)
********************** Orginal metroid is best way lower my TMT, but i really have trouble beat that game without deaths.
100% Super Metroid: 1.10 Metroid Fusion: 1.22 Metroid Zero mission: 0.56 Metroid prime 2 echoes: 2.42
LOW-% Metroid Fusion (1%): 0.57 Metroid zero mission (9%) normal: 0.41 Metroid prime 2 echoes (22%): 2.47
ANY-% Metroid 1: 15.00 (i am complete but i,dont never speedrun) Metroid 2: 20.00 (I don,t have that game) Super Metroid: 0.47 Metroid Fusion: 0.54 Metroid Zero mission: 0.29 Metroid Prime: 1.53 Metroid prime 2 echoes: 1.58 *********************************** TMT: 41.01 +ADD hunters +16 hours *******************************************
My times PAL versio. My new updates
But congrats MR.X you are faster than me.
And it was bit worse. I made 4-5 better SS attempts but always i miss acid worm skip. That 32.23 was slowest my SS attempts but i manage that cursed acid worm skip here.
32.23!
I am very lazy practice that glitch because everytime i,ve must be beat his first form again and it piss me off. It is only hope i can get sub 1.40 run this time if i can manage that glitch. It save almost 4 minutes game time.
My second trouble is it, when boss don,t want create new pool fast enought. I don,t know, i watching video almost 100 times, but i still doing somethink wrong here, because he create pool much slower.
I have very much trouble shots ice beam phazon shots, because it don,t want shot. Power beam phazon fire is much easier than ice beam.
Working that without ice beam? every runner use ice beam, but there is no mention need you ice beam and can you manage that with power beam too?
There is much informations about this
Bit questions about MP 2 nd form pool glitch.
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yeah i don,t have SM right now. I´ve must be use Stefan method.
Thanks MR.X i know that now. Thanks.
First form was good enought. Second chamber was pretty descent when boss drawing ice fases latest face. It was reason when i don,t can use ice spreader double hits against his faces. But third chamber was good enought and fourth chamber was very avarage/good. Theoretical 1.39 is possible, but i think i don,t never can have as much luck manipulations here.
-Last boss in 11 minutes. I am pretty happy my MP 2 second form because pool gltich working pretty good, still i can beat him one pool faster if i can made perfects hits.
Best time: 1.41
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This game was very taxing and difficult. Avarage segment took almost 1-2 hours complete. But well i probably try find that most effective pool gltich, Stefan last semgment was 7-8 min my own 13 min.
My goal was sub 1.40, i am bit dissapointment. I don,t really want started new run, because this one was pretty good. My biggest time lost was probably MQB, when i miss L-lock springin jump 4 times onto the upper ledge. But i don,t restart my game because MQA dash took almost 2 hours manage without dying.
-I decide use pool glitch against  MP2nd form. Still i bit wonder pool gltich is not as effective than stefan. My battle was in 7 pool, stefan battle was in 5 pool. Last boss segment itself took 13 minutes as long as without pool gltich. I think lowest possible ending time for me can be 1.41 if i have crazy luck.
-Same route as alst time. Same as Stefan, but i don,t use thardus dash and tallon over world shortcuts
-I less two save points. I use 21 save points. It is not too much IMO.
-Well this is 10 minutes better than my previous run -40% item (5et, 50m 4pb) -I skip spider ball once again -I made much cooler segments and i avoid almost all major mistakes. -My avarage speed is probably bit slow, because this game is very difficult speedrun.
Best time: 1.43 (PAL-versio)
I have always 50/50 missile before last boss and it is good reason use ice spreader.
I get ice spreader because last boss is couple minutes faster IMO. Because i have PAL versio, rapid missile method doesn,t works against Meta ridley ground form, and i don,t lose my missiles here. I use plasma method and this don,t takes missiles.
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5: After Omega pirate.
4: I get that vent shaft energy tank. I get that because MQA segment is too risky. When i beat that segment i have only 80- energypoint left. But yeah that is probably good idea skip next time, because i don,t really need that if i have enought luck.
I really need three tanks here, because it is long segment. It took many deaths and i finally survive only 38 E-point left. Sheegoth adult drain lot my energy and next part is magmoor cavern. It is faster across lava pools with boost ball and it drain lot energy. Second reason why i get 3 tanks is Phazon mines. Phazon mines is very difficult especially PAL versio, because your must be use that orginal route your first visit.
1: Main plaza 2: Energy tank after morph ball bomb 3: Magmoor tunnel energy tank before Phendrana
I get
I think 5 is not too much for me. Probably i can skip that vent shaft energy tank and i can get that chozo ruins energy tank later game, because when i get that before Flaahgra it caused lot back track.
Thanks rekamheos
This not too hard, but it took couple tries first time.
I find bsj method in reflecting pool (stone toad room). Jump double bsj onto the upper ledge front of door. You don,t need toad ghetto and this can be save little bit time.
I don,t know is this much faster but it can save 2-3 seconds.
Refletic pool bsj. Jump bsj onto the upper ledge front of door. This is pretty difficult place, because you need max heights double bsj jump
I find couple alternate method use bsj. Furnace without spider ball. Jump single or double bsj onto the hole. This is very easy, probably even easier than ghetto.
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There is two video, but both bsj is maded front of door. Is it possible elsewhere?
When i going in door it working only here. But can you find right camera spot elsewhere, just like Echoes bsj?
Can you manage that bsj jump other places than front of door?
Questions about bsj.
Is anybody trying ghetto method in vent shaft half pipe without boost ball? I am pretty sure it is possible. I was very close couple times. I think if you can made max heights getto jump, it is even possible across vent shaft half pipe with ghetto, without boost ball.
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I timed this. This is 6 seconds faster than orginal way. Morph ball tunnel route took 10 seconds, invisble slant jump took 4 seconds.
Jump onto the invisble slant and jump again onto the upper ledge. This is almost as fast as R-jump method, but much easier way skip that morph ball tunnel in frozen spike. Nice trick IMO.
This method is millions times easier than current WR method. I trying WR method almost one hour and i manage that only one time, that R-jump is extremely darn hard IMO, it doesn,t work never. But my own method is pretty easy.
I find alterante method skip frozen spike morph ball tunnel on PAL versio.
3 round battle feel impossible yet. Ive must be watch scarlet video. She use 3 round methods (if i remember right). But nothing works for me. 3 round not working :x
1 round: Wave charge and 3 regular missile 2 round: Wave charge and 3 regular missile 3 round: wave charge and regular missile 4 round wave charge 2 regular missile and SM shot
Right now i really want know what is that Phantom 3 round kill. My battle is always 4 round. 2 round kill is too hard & almost impossible on console. 3 round kill can be possible if  i find that idea. Phantom always disapper when i shot 3 regular missile.
-Almost weeks-two ago/when i complete my any-% run. I started speedrun new 100% run. I use much good/new trick here just like example i use after torizo shortcuts & gate hater.  Both trick took lot practice but i finally can manage both trick almost 25%-50% of the time. I have 14 min and almost 50-55 seconds over in red Brinstar save. This is very good with PAL versio 100% run. This is only 8-12 seconds slower than my current any-% run sub time.
-This was pretty good run. -Not best possible because i don,t use all possible trick here.
-2 minutes faster than my previous -15 segment -27% item (30m 15sm 5pb 5et)
Best time: 0.45 (PAL-versio)
Still 1.54 is very amazing time. I am pretty sure i don,t never can beat that.
This is hard job. I probably want improve that someday. I practice lot new time savers after i beat my 1.58. But i have very good avarage speed and boss fights in my 1.58 run. Probably if  i use all new time savers what i practice, i can get at least 1.56 or bit lower. But all my boss fights was very good job. It is very frustrating try improve that.
4 minutes faster than my own.
Very nice job rekameohs.
Well. Thanks!
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2-Bomb guardian in two round is very precise and hard too
1-Boost guardian in one round kill is impossible for me. I can du that 0% of the time. My best attempt was when i drain 90% his energy in one round.
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-Roll jump caused sometimes trouble, but sometimes when i have good day i can du that 90% of the time. Sometimes when i have bad day, that caused bit trouble.
-Transit station is bit annoying apply speedrun.
-Agon beam ammo speedtrick is bit randomly. Right now i can du that almost  10- 20% of the time.
-Under water dash caused always trouble. It is main reason why i don,t try speedrun SS runs
-Sunburst without dark world is very annoying too
-There is lot manipulate luck base trick example hall of combat mastery, took easily many tries.
1-Grapple skip is only impossible trick for me. Max distance scan dash is bit hard
METROID PRIME 2 ECHOES (GC)*****************
-This game don,t includes very easy things. Almost every single trick caused bit trouble for me. Still i can apply WR-route when i speedrun, but many part took hundred restart.
-Hundred things are impossible for me. Just like example boost ball skip and R-jump and couple frame perfect dashes
-Probably hardest metroid game speedrun.
METROID PRIME (GC)********************
- 9% hard mode PAL: Zebetite segments feel impossible. I don,t know how many can beat zebeties 2 missile only.
-ONE NO-boss run M- expansion caused bit trouble.
-Horrizontal bomb jump over acid pool is very hard. Hardest trick in the game.
-Acid worm skip is bit randomly.
METROID ZERO MISSION (GBA)************ -There is no much hard tricks.
-Secret message is very hard too, but luckily i don,t need that
-Pass first SAX attack with wassup dawgs style is impossible for me
-It is very diifficult time stoped shine spark just when you falling on the ground. Example Sectror 3 PYR entrance s-spark.
-Many boss trick are hard especially couple bosses are very hard beat fast enought in low-% run. EXAMPLE: Big core-X, security robots & Yakuza are very hard beat fast enought
METROID FUSION (GBA)***************
There is definitely much more hard tricks what i forget mentions.
Kraid quick kill is very hard too. I can du that 10-20% of the time.
Botwoon quick kill is absolutely impossible for me. My best battle ever is in two round.
+++BOSS TRICK++++++++
-Super quick charge is hard too. Luckily i find easier way made that.
-After Torizo shortcuts is hard too. I finally find much easier way made that. I jump two wall jump and i put couple bomb in the air
-Gate hater took first time very long time manage, but right now this not too hard. I can made that 25-50% of the time
-Horrizontal shine spark in the air is bit randomly apply speedrun. Luckily i don,t need that very much
2-Horrizontal bomb jump is insanely difficult. I don,t never can across water pool before wrecked ship without shine spark
1-No/boss/suit run inculdes almost impossible tricks. Red Scarlet is master
There is lot hard thing IMO.
SUPER METROID (SNES)**************
-Game itself is hard speedrun because i died very easily here.
-One boss run is very hard too.
-There is no very difficult tricks. Early varia suit (without hi jump) caused bit trouble because it is bit randomly time get enought height.
METROID (NES)**************
My opinions:
what is hardest metroid game tricks/sbreaks ever in your opinion?
I watch his video couple times, but still i never can beat that. I think lowest possible time for me can be 4.14 at most 4.15 time left. But i think this not never can happen any faster.
Stefan PAL versio WR record is 4.23.70. I really wonder how it is possible.
-I complete frigate escape at least 30 times today and i got 4.09- 4.10 time left very often, but finally i got 4.12.
My best frigate escape is: 4.12.1x time left. (PAL-versio)
Nice job man. I wait your echoes low-% hard speedruns next. You can beat my time easily here.
Orginal Prime is much harder game complete in low-% than Echoes, because there is many difficult tricks and incredible long and hard bosses just like last boss.  I lose always energy tanks against bosses even normal mode any-% run.
I feel my Echoes 22% hard mode completions feel likes much easier  than your Prime 22% hard mode PAL accomplishment:.
REALLY INCREDIBLE!!!!!
Incredible job MR.X
But yeah i don,t need that trick because dash jump is much faster way. But i think this not much easier than DBJ
I remember Calfoolio (first WR player) He said that double bomb jump off the ship trick is hard. My opinion this not too hard. It took first time at most 5 minutes. Right now i can du that pretty often and easily without dying. I really surprised how easy this is.
This took first time almost 45 minutes jump over the bars. But right now this is pretty simple trick and this not caused trouble when i learn that idea.
My topic idea was: How much hard trick you find console only.
There is tons impossible trick what you can do TAS only.
ZM horrizontal bomb jump across rio room on console is impossible too.
Almost all TAS tricks is impossible apply on console, just like example Super Metroid Phantoon 1 round on console is 100% impossible!!!
Yeah when i talking about hard tricks i don,t mean TAS tricks.
-This run was very amazing and my time was very high 1.05.5x. This is probably my last 100% segmented run ever. My run was done with PAL versio. PAL versio is much harder and slower too. I can think this looks like even sub hour with NTSC.
-Early spring ball segment took very long time to beat, but it was almost best segment my run and it is one hardest too.
-Phantoon segment took very long too. Phantoon is hardest and most randomly fight in the game. Finally i got absolutely perfect 4 round fight.
-Avarage segment took 1-3 hours complete. Couple segments took really long. Segment 3: Green Brinstar-Green Norfair took 2 days, because Kraid quick kill is very hard and frustrating because i skip Kraid lair save.
-I use Murder beam against Mother brain with Hotarubi style. Hotarubi Style is slower than Scarlet style, but it was most safe, because i skip that Tourian energy recharge too.
-I use at least one more new shines, example i use shine after golden torizo.
-Botwoon in three round, and i less Save points before Draygon. Draygon was good one. He use one more attack, but i don,t care because this is 100% random avoid.
-First i decide use Phantoon 3 round battle, but always 4 round battle was faster way. My best 4 round battle was extremely darn fast one. All eye open in 2-3 seconds and i don,t miss any shots. It was reason why i use that save before ET, because i miss that ET almost 75% of the time.
-I use shortcuts after Torizo -I use gate hater -I get Wrecked ship energy tank without gravity suit -I use mock ball out after etecoon PB
-This is very good 100% run with PAL versio. I use lot new time savers first time in my life. I less 3 save points.
-5 minutes faster than my previous -20-segment (19-save points)
Best time 100%: 1.05 (PAL-versio)
I don,t remember all possible versio difference. I think Cpaldow know much more versio difference than me.
-I remember: Tonski said that shine spark end bit too early with PAL.
-Arm pumping is uneffective with PAL. This not really save any time. At most 0,20 sec per 7 seconds long corridor.  I timed this.
-Lava room lava rise much faster PAL than NTSC. You not can use morph ball here.
-I don,t remember all version difference. But biggest pain is definitely that when doors open slower and stopped easily your full speed. This made game much harder speedrun with PAL.
I remember Cpaldof give a list version difference PAL vs NTSC.
Thanks Lance. :P
EDIT: If you speedruns 100% run your must be avoid that last navigations room before item collections because it locked all sectors doors..
If you need energy against bosses you can find recharge room in main deck.
Doors open when you beat game.
Even sub hour can be possible with PAL, but it is too hardcore for me and it looks like 52 min run with NTSC. Blue glass SS goal is 52 minutes and it looks like 58-59 with PAL.
I think your must be faster. My time was 1.05 and i use 19 save points. I lose at least 2-3 minutes when i use my save points. 1.02-1.03 is very possible SS goal with PAL, if you have insane amount luck and master SM pal versio skills.
Overall your run is mastework Zoid
-2nd form was very good one. Stefan battle was in 5 round Zoid in 6 round and my own personal best is in 7 round.
-Metroid Prime is possible improve too. He have bad manipulate luck against his first form. He miss always ice spreader double hits, because ice faces was always last one face.
-Meta ridley was good one, but i think this not any faster than my own battle.
-Zoid is dash jump masters. I really like watch his dash jumps. He manage much crazy/almost impossible dashes without dying. But i really laugh when he miss always R-jumps. I see that R-jump is very hard one, because Zoid miss that always. Me too have much trouble made that. I can du that 0% of the time. I`ve must be say Stefan is best R-jumper in the world.
-I like his Omega pirate battle, because Omega pirate is very randomly. There is NO pool order IMO. Zoid guess all his pool without dying. I don,t know how he can guess that pool orders with SS run. But i don,t understand that, because when i fight against Omega my pool order is always different. Took easily 1-2 hours beat that in one round and i lose always 3 energy tanks against him. Zoid have only 1/3 et against omega. This was very nice battle.
-New MQA method was great find, it even looks bit easier than my own space pirate dash method. This was bit faster than space pirate dash too.
It was really cool one. Still 1.07 NTSC looks like bit better IMO. Yeah but i understand. PAL is bit unpopular and much harder speedrun, especially SS.
I finally watching Zoid PAL 1.17 SS run. :P
Zoid miss all R-jumps. and he use always alternate method with R-jumps places. It really looks like: Zoid is bit worse R-jumper. But anyway, i don,t really know how good R-jumper he really is.
3- He skip frozen spike tunnel with dash jump. Stefan use R-jump here. I find that invisble ledge here. It is definitely easiest method.
2- He use dash jumps method in MQA. R-jump can be faster, anyway.
1- I don,t know much about this. But Zoid miss both Twin fire tunnel R-jumps
I am happy my run. This is only 2 minutes slower than my segmented run. Definitely i can improve 2 minutes very easily, if i get much more risk and if i have better luck against Phantoon.
-Overall this run is not that bad. There is no major mistakes. Of course there is much amount mistakes, biggest one is definitely Phantoon battle and kraid quick kill miss. But kraid quick kill is very rarery on SS run, i miss that but this don,t surprised me.
-Many part can be done much faster. Phantoon took too much time, because i have bad manipulate luck against him.
-I made many mistakes and i don,t get much amount risk.
I get much more energys and missile fire power, because this is SS run.
-34% item (50m 20sm 5pb 6et 1rt)
-This is my first any-% SS in the game. This not my first SS because i complete two previous 100% SS runs couple months ago.
-Tonski ask me try any-% SS run. He want see how fast i can beat this run.
Best time single segment: 0.47 (PAL-versio)
Congrats Tonski. This your time is awesome, absolutely awesome SS run. You are forget update your profile yet.
I am pretty sure piccolocube try speedrun that game in near future. He is pretty talented Metroid game speedrunner.
I hate that game because there is no copy data. I can miss my run anywhere else. hopefully not.
I started speedrun segmented run. My time is 0.19 in magmoor cavern after flaahgra & artifact. I am 3 minutes behind Stefan van dijike PAL WR time. I´ve must be say Stefan is darn fast guy.
Good luck piccolocube. SS runs sounds like crazy. I not never can beat SS run without spider ball, because bomb unmorph after flaahgra and MQA dash kill me very often. Omega pirate is very hard too.
EDIT: It is possible complete transit station bsj with 2bsj too. I test that. But it is easier lay three bomb IMO:
Hopefully this help you. You find that bsj method in M2k2 main page too.
Double bsj camera spot is bit different than single bsj. And timing is bit harder too. Still timing is not as precise than roll jump timing.
My method Transit station PB pit up rise= when i lay three bomb i lay that second bomb bit lower than normally double bomb jump. When second bomb explode push back and unmorph. If bsj don,t give enought height, use screw attack after your bsj.
That Transit station PB pit up rising is bit randomly, because you need much heights.
Single bsj and 2/3bsj idea is pretty much same than single bsj.
2bsj & 3bsj give same more heights IMO.
Thanks secret key. :P  You are still 3 minutes ahead my current 1.41 run.
I really have good reason blame that because this game don,t includes copy data.  ***************************************************
I just lose one minutes game time, because my long segment was bit too slow. My time is now 34 minutes in Chozo ruins before GTH Bars. This is only 1 minutes faster sub time than my 1.41 run. I lose one mintues here.
PAH!
I have 2 memory card but my both cards are fully.   i´ve must be buy new card someday.
Right now i have trouble jump over the GTH bars. LAst time i complete that segment in first attempt and i miss bomb jump only two times. Today i have bad luck here. This jump took always forever.
Second real big time saver can be ore prosessing. I have really much trouble up rise here without killing power troopers, last time i kill all troopers and this took at least 20 seconds.
I think i can improve my time here. Last time i don,t skip elite pirate battle, because some invisible wall stop my jump always. I promise try that this time seriously, because it looks very easy.
Your Phazon mines segment is very amazing. I think you are 2 minutes faster than my time ever.
Yeah i am happy i got 35 minutes in Phazon mines. GTH bar bomb jump in first attempt. This took almost 2 hours. Segment itself was avarage one, but anyway. I have 1-2 minutes ahead my 1.41 run.
Hey MR:X. Nice see your first speedrun in near future. You beat low-% hard in PAL, i think your must be have incredible skills play that game.
Your must be dash when elite pirate battle started. I have that same trouble couple months ago.
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for other pirates, just dash to the side as soon as the fight starts, and missile them while never crossing directly in front of it.
directly in front of the pirate's line of sight is a trigger that will start the attacking. what you have to do is jump past that before it is activated, or just never cross it. for the first fight, in speedruns the player immediately heads toward the far wall, and if you make it quick enough, the pirate will never attack. if you head straight toward the pirate or the opening in the wall, you will pass his head to0 late and start the attack. so what you want to do, at first, is head directly to the wall, perhaps halfway between the hole in the wall and the corner to the left, and then start rapid missiling. at this point, move forward to the hole, and keep circling around him, but never stand directly in front.
Sparky wrote****************************:
I wish good luck.
Double bsj timing is not that too hard. When you learn that, this not that much harder than single bsj timing. Roll jump timing is harder, because it is really precise.
And left hand fingers move stick back
My way is simple. My right hand - Forefinger push X button (unmorph) - Thumb push B button
Good luck with your, near impossible run.
I remeber Azor got 31 minutes with NTSC, he don,t never recorded that. If you recorded that PAL versio run. It is even cooler than Azor run, because PAL versio is harder too.
Your run must be looks 31 minutes in US- versio. It is one minutes faster than Hotarubi WR.
Looks like 32+4=36 mintues
I really want see this one. Cpadolf say PAL is 3.30-4 minutes slower than US versio. I can think 35 is lowest possible time on PAL.
35! MINUTES PAL?
This took practice first time. I remember when i practice roll jump first time, over years ago, it really hurt my hands & fingers. Double bsj never hurt my hands, because i learn that much later than roll jump. Actually double bsj is still bit easier IMO.
When i lay bombs i use my Thumb.  Yeah i moved my fingers pretty quickly after bombs explodes i push back and unmorph and jump.
HEh still i´ve must be say. Orginal Prime is really hard speedrun. Echoes is hard game too, but still much easier IMO.
Yeah i finally manage elite skip. It is good place try improve my current time.
I don,t never can understand how Zoid can complete that room without killing Troopes his SS run. It is absolutely impossible for me.
I have once again trouble Phazon mines segment. I try that ore prosessing up rise without killing troopers at least 10 times, but always i miss that and i died. Probably it is better idea kill troopers next time.
Sounds very nice Secretkey.
Good luck with your run.
100% is much harder than any-%.  When i beat my 100% normal run, i got that dark suit later game (after light suit). But it is almost impossible get that with hard mode 100% run, because Boost guardian can be real pain without dark suit and hard mode.
I really feel that hard mode is really hard speedrun. When i complete my current hard mode run, my Agon segment suck too. Luckily many things working in later game.
Sounds good. Finally somebody try speedrun Echoes.
There is only one big mistake. Ghetto before plasma took 3-4 tries, but anyway, luckily many little things working.
Geo core segment took forever time, because i practice new time saver in Phazon center (i don,t kill turret). Geo core itself ruined my run 90% of the time. This one took at least 2-3 hours to beat, but overall i am happy, because i complete this segment in 6 minutes.
I have 3 minutes ahead my previous run. And i am only 5 minutes behind Zoid old 2004 WR (1.17 run) Theoretical 1.22 is possible yet, but no way!   because i have much slower avarage speed than Zoid. I really surprised if i can get 1.35 or lower.
I got 50 minutes in Chozo ruins after hall of elder artifact.
How your run doing Secretkey?
I don,t use that, because it is so hard/impossible for me. I use that same route as Zoid his SS run. This is at least 30-40 seconds slower than pirate dash, but much easier.
Hey Secret key. Use you that Tallon over world flying pirate dash?
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We can see. I can miss my run anywhere else, if forget something or if i am too lazy.
Last time i don,t use Thardus dash it can save 2 more minutes. When i practice that trick, it took 3 days and i finally manage that. This can drop my time at least 1.35 if every little thing working.
My time is now: 0.52 in Phazon mines. I complete very fast life grove segment in 2 minutes. Right now i have almost 4 minutes ahead my previous run (possible goal 1.37)
It Chozo skip is pretty hard and bit randomly. Especially without dying. This took easily lot restart.
This one took 3 days and 7-10 hours with my practice save file. This time i planned use that with my run.
Thardus dash route don,t caused any back track, but it is extremely lucky time use that. It is near impossible with SS run.
Normal route what zoid use. It caused bit back track, because your must be back Phendrana again, and get that third artifact here.
Thardus dash is one latest trick in the game. When you get out Phazon mines and when you collect two Phendrana artifact. You can use thardus dash. It save almost 1-2 minutes.
I remember Echoes under water dash is one very hard trick too, sounds like much R-jump, because you need much buttons here. I can manage that, but always it took multiple attempt/restart, sometimes even couple hours with speedrun.
R-jump includes millions button in same jump, i don,t really be in time for push all buttons in 3 seconds.
Stefan explained R-jump for me, couple months ago, but i don,t never learned that. I practice 2-3 hours, but it doesn,t work never. He explained that something wrong or i du that wrong but anyway, but still it doesn,t work.
Hopefully i beat this run possible soon, because this game is hell.
Well i have 5 minutes ahead my previous run, it mean i can get at least 1.36. I can save almost 2 minutes if i use Thardush dash, it can drop my clear time 1.34. If i can increase my avarage speed little bit, my possible goal can be 1.33 MAX. We can see.
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Artifact segment was good enought but it took at least one hour to beat, because it is extremly random factor. I need manipulations PB refills & Metroid moved very randoms places and last frame perfect MQB l- lock jump took much restart, because it is hard and precise & randomly.
Omega pirate in one round took only 3 attempt, but PB refill manipulations took longer.
I find easy way beat MQB fast enought, it was much easier and faster than my previous method.
MQA dash, i use Zoid SS style, it was easier than pirate dash, but still i miss that multiple times. Biggest run killer this time was  Fungall hall A. Perfect L- lock jump took extremely much restarts.
-I finally beat Phazon mines parts. It really was hell. MQA segment took extremely long to beat. at least 4 hours total. But it was one best segment ever in my run, i am very happy. I beat it in 4 minutes.
Save Magmoor cavern before Phendrana: 1.08 (5 minutes ahead my 1.41 run)
News my runs.
This can help you keep your speed up.
EDIT: If you seriously want got sub 2 hours. I post my any-% normal and any-% hard sub times in previous page couple months ago:
Good luck with your next any-% run. Sub 2 hour can be very amazing goal, i really know you need good run if you want beat game sub 2 hour.
I don,t sure what 100% route you use, but i think you get that dark suit before Boost guardian, because your run is done with hard  mode.
My 2.42 100% Normal route, looks like pretty much same as Sparky  2-25 route, but my route was faster too, because i use lot new time saver EXAMPLE: Sunburst W/O dark world and many new shortcuts. It was still bit who care run, because i was lazy manipulate pirate commando attack.
But this your time is still very nice job. I got couple months ago 2.42 100% normal mode. This is much shorter run, because if you get dark suit later game you can save almost 4 minutes game time. It is near impossible with hard mode, because boost guardian is so hard W/O dark suit.
Sub 3 must be very amazing hard 100% goal just like sub 2 hours is amazing any-% normal goal.
This is very nice job Piccolocube.
Still run itself was very good IMO. I even workig that harder than my Echoes sub 2 hours completions. My run can be looks sub 1.30 with NTSC, because PAL is very slow and hard speedrun and nasty last boss is 50% longer here.
Still i don,t enought happy my last boss. I need at least 1-2 minutes faster fight, but i need extremely insane amount luck. My 1.41 battle was really insane, i think i don,t never ever can get 11 minutes fight again, but i am happy if i can get 1.35 ending yet. We can see. Last boss really pissed me off, because it is extremely long, nasty & random factor fight ever.
-Overall this run is good. I use Thardus dash and many new time savers. My avarage speed was good enought. i practice lot time saver before i started run that..
MP 2 is hardest fight in Metroid  game history with speedrun, Because it is extremely randomly and extremely nasty boss.
I beat MP2 in 7 pool. There is totally one big mistake, i totally miss one pool. And i have very bad luck, because he change always that visor, at least 3-4 times. But it is 100% random avoid that, because boss move very randomly around area and change that visor. I dont can control his moved and it took much times if i miss that.
-I can say this is not my final time, my last segment was 2 minutes slower than last time. But still enought good i beat this in 13 minutes.
-39% item: 50m 4et, 4pb -24 segment (23 save)
BEst time 1.36 (PAL -versio)
-I am very happy my run now.  :P  :P  :P
-I finally get near perfect last segment (in 11 minutes). -Very good first form, i get couple ice spreader double shots -Second form was very fast 7 pool fight. I have good maniulate luck this time
BEST TIME: 1.34
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Good luck with your run too. We can see how fast you can are.
3 This time i was very lucky. I manage Thardus dash my 4 th attempt.
2: I use only one PB his first form. It destroyed all piece his armors. I use Plasma beam against his X-ray form.
1: Yeah i use MQA metroid dash Zoid SS style.
Thanks Secret key. Still i am disappointment my MP 2nd form.
I play guitar last time almost 7 year ago.   I suck about this.
I watch/hear your street fighter songs. Nice job man.
You are at least as good guitar player as Super Metroid player.
I think it is at least very hard, because Zoid said it is very rarery. But my opinion it looks very easy, but still it doesn,t work never.
2: Second questions. I am curious what is this Ridley fly phase skip speedtrick? Is it 100% lucky or can you control that?
Is it jump style faster than walking? I trying both style, but i don,t can jump as fast than Stefan.
My best frigate is 4.13.8x time left. I think 4.14 can be lowest if everysingle part working as perfect as i want. It is weird. Stefan get 4.23. His everysingle room is almost 1-2 seconds faster than me.
He use jump style move? Use he something special jump when he walking?
1: First questions is frigate escape. When i watch that Stefan van dijike PAL frigate escape, i see he walking faster than me. He have always almost 2 seconds ahead for me, everytime before space pirate room.  I don,t make any mistake, but still that 2 seconds before first space pirate room sounds like impossible. His sub time was 6.39.8 and my best ever is 6.38.0
I have couple speedtrick questions, because i am curious.
Heh i finally learn R-jump, actually it is pretty easy. It took much practice first time, but i finally learn it!!  :P
Stefan method really looks hard, but R-jump is almost as fast, probably only bit slower than Metroid dash with stefan style.
Secretkey. You can jump R-jump too. It is definitely bit faster than Metroid dash with Zoid style
If you want manage that you not can jump R-jump reach the ice door. Your must be find invisble slant before that. It is easiest explain if you watch that low-% PAL video, in the SDA.
I test that yesterday, it working very well. This not too hard, if you can du that R-jump/dash.
If you want see that, so watch Pirate low-% PAL run or Stefan low-% SS run. Both run includes that R-jump MQA method.
Main page don,t includes R-jump method.
Yeah R-jump/dash- Same thing.
go go go
Very nice. My time was 1.01 befor Omega. You have 3 minutes ahead my 1.34 run. You have really good change got sub 1.30.
Your run is just as good as my own run. This must be very nice one.
Congrats Iowa.   Two year is long time.
Are you planned post your new TAS in youtube too?
New TAS time sounds like incredible. I watching that your old TAS almost 1-2 months ago, it was incredible too. Phantoon in one round ,Draygon shine spark and many little thing looks crazy here.
Watch main page video.
Ridley cheap way is very easy even low-% hard mode.
I think lowest possible 9% time with human hands can be 39.xx. I think theoretical 36-37 minutes is even possible with real time if you use emulator and save state only. But nobody don,t can skip all save and get perfect fights on console. Because 9% is very random factor run.
Any-% speedrun is over 10 minutes faster than 9% normal mode run.
Nice see your hard job is finally done. Can i wait your MP2 Echoes speedrun someday?
You got 4 minutes faster time than me. And this was your first run. My 1.34 was my third real speedrun.
Very nice time Secretkey. :P
Sub 30 can be done TAS only. Who know.
Yeah 39 is very possible on console. 38 high, i don,t know can anybody get that, because you need real perfect run. 36 is only possible with emulator if you don,t use slow motion but you need still save state.
-First segment can be 20-25 seconds faster. -Imago cocoon at least 5 seconds faster -Ridley can be 5-10 seconds faster -Kraid lair segment 10-15 seconds faster -Tourian second halfway at least 10 seconds faster -Barrier part, can be done even 20 seconds faster if you skip at least one more save. -Mother brain. What MR.X said it can be 30-40 seconds faster -Suitless samus can be done at least 6 seconds faster (if you skip that middle save) -Robot Ridley can be at least 5 seconds faster and escape too 5 seconds because i don,t get max possible risk against Black pirates. +I use 14-15 save. But you need savepoints, because this run is very random factor.
Yeah My 9% run was very good. Still many spots can be faster here, if you are very patient:
Yeah i am sure, we never see 36 minutes 9% time. It is only theoretical possible time with real time, just like sub 27-26 minutes is definitely possible any-% with real time, but nobody never can beat that as fast. Spidey Widey get 28.04 any-% and he said 27 is very possible and 26 minutes can be even possible.
I don,t really know is this new time saver, because i don,t never watching any 100% runs. But i don,t find that in main page, i think this can be new.
put one bomb when you are onto the last invisible slant. If you are luck enought you can get that M-expansion without MB maze.
-There is two invisble slant. 1:onto the vine front of the door 2:front of missile expansion.
-You can get M-expansion without morph ball maze. -this is pretty difficult time saver, i think this is new, because Metroid2002 main page don,t includes that.
I probably found new speedtrick for 100% game. Ruined nursey Morph ball maze skip:
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Is it that Fly phase skip 100% luck? or is it only very hard? I remember pirate trying that his 100% run, but he not never completed that.
That fly phase skip still interested me, because when i watch Zoid video it looks very easy. He shots only plasma beams against him and Rildey skip his fly phase
Thanks Stefan.
30th aug post*********
I test that and i falling safety down, most of the time. This way is much easier than main page method IMO.
3: Look disks. After you feel your timing is good, jump down towards of spider track and go morph mode in the air and falling safety down throught both disks.
2 Wait couple seconds here. when you see two rotate disk and spider track opposite for you.
1 Jump over gaps and stay onto the ledge.
I find new and easier way.
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Are you watching Stefanvan dijike PAL versio low-% SS? There is one another method, but i don,t remember what it is. I want learn that trick too.
There is one method, but it doesn,t work for me.
Post 4th SEP************************ Yeah i have that same trouble.
Watch previous page in this topic.
RUINED NURSEY NEW M-EXPANSION SPEEDTRICK
EASIER NO-DAMAGE FALL W/O SPIDER BALL IN RESEARCH ACCESS*******
EDIT: This is good day. I find two new trick:
Sparky don,t use that second invisible slant. I find that. This is new speedtrick and i am happy because i find new time saver. Read my previous post. If you want try that.
********************************************* Yeah i watching Sparky 100% run. His Ruined nursey M-expansion method was slower than my. I really surprised my new method is at least 5-7 seconds faster than Sparky 100% speedrun method.
Thanks Sparky. Now i can know how Ridley fly by skip can be possible.
EDIT: Yeah you can find that video in youtube!
This was cool hack. This guy in Finland complete that sub 2.30. This is probably fastest completion what i see.
I just finished watching SM hack impossible completions. Annoying all segments doesn,t working, example Ridley.
Well anyway. It was very nice video.
Lance home country is Finland. Anyway. Welcome to finmetroid forum too.
News to me
Have somebody idea, how i can dash high dashes? Dash can be easier in geo core if i can get enought height.
Dash is much easier control and it give very easily enought distance, but height is biggest problem. I don,t can dash high jumps. All high jumps caused extremely much trouble example: Tower of light speedtrick and Vent shaft dash.
R-jump method give easier height but it is very hard control that jump.
Biggest problem is that bomb slot:
Wow geo core without boost ball is very hard. I trying that almost 30 minutes. There is two difficult R-jump before bomb slot and bomb slot is very tought too,
Thanks Iowa. Yeah dash feel too hard. I just practice R-jump method almost 45 minutes and i was very close almost 10-15 times, but still it never grap with bomb slot. It is luck time i guess.
Next i go practice vent shaft without boost ball.
HAH HAH HAH   it finally working. :P  I complete geo core bomb slot jump HAHH HAH . This was hell, took 4-5 hours. AMAZING!!!!!
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and of course Ore prossing without killing power trooper can be one run killer my low-% run, because i never manage that with my any-% (without killing troopers). Hopefully i can manage all trick someday, probably i go try 22% run in near future. We can see.
If i can someday manage that geo core, i need practice vent shaft and life grove yet.
I remember when i practice Thardush dash first time, it took 3 days and almost 7 hours. Probably that geo core can be even harder.
I working alot that geo core but it doesn,t never grap with bomb slot, i don,t know why hell it doesn,t grap, because my good jumps looks like Smilingjack13 jumps.  I have now at least 30 even 45  very good jump, but no luck. But i try and try and try. Probably someday i can manage that.
Actually no 22% file. I try that my practice save file, i have 4 ET but i don,t use boost ball.
Everythink else working, even geo core & life groove, but both room can be hell with 22% game
1: Ore prosessing Power trooper room. I need good idea, because skip method never working 2: Vent shaft: Bomb jump is absolutely too hard even impossible. I probably try practice dash method someday.
Right now i need practice only two spot so i finally can start 22% run.
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I really want play that game with NTSC versio, because there is no troopers.
Seriously? Can you really kill troopers without energy tanks and without charge beam? It doesn,t never work for me and skip itself is so impossible too, because i never ever find that invisble ledge fast enought and troopers stop always that cursed backtrack jump.
If i understand Madzombie idea right he say it is easier kill troopers than skip. Right?
I really need some special idea complete that power trooper room with low-% run.
I really need help. Bomb jump is too hard, because i never ever getting hit with last bomb. I think dash can be easier, if i find that height secret. Help!
-Stefanvan dijike style, he push couple times Z button (map button) in the air when he dash. Make this jump easier?
-I watch Pirate109 video. He use lock with puffer after his dash. Is it easier practice that with gas or without gas?
2: Dash with R-button. Yeah looks like dash in MQA. Give very easily very much distance, but i have trouble stop my jump and heights is once again my trouble.
1: Dash without R-button. Just like easy space jump first dash. This not give very much distance, but height is once again my biggest trouble. This dash is easy control/stop.
I trying 2 different dash style:
What is this height secret? How i can jump enought high dash?
I am really desperation, because my jumps is always very low.
Questions with Vent shaft dash?
AAARGH   I just trying watch that upper right video, but it video is broken. Actually both upper video is broken. lower video working, but it is orginal way. :|
I trying many time that orginal bomb jump way.
I don,t really have motivation watch that run once again. Know you, can i find your & Stefan bomb method somewhere else?
Actually i watching that run 1-2 weeks ago. My opinion it vent shaft looks like pretty much same as Smilingjack method, but i remember he unmorh bit lower than smilingjack.
this is even harder trick than geo core IMO, or i do something little thing wrong. Who know?
2: Push you analog stick back before you push L button again?
1: what is this timing where your must be use your second jump? This is very hard see that in video.
I have couple questions yet:
I test Stefan method too. 1: He dash first and next he push Z button 2: He continued dash, he get hit with the puffer and he push once again Z button and next he reached that ledge. Still i don,t never see what is this timing.
I watching pirate109 video almost 50 times. His method looks like very different than my. It looks like he never jump his second jump.
Still no way. :|  After three hour attempt. I still never reached ledge. I manage almost 15-20 very good/high dashes, but still it ledge located too high for me. :| I think i am pretty close, but i don,t know how close i am.
Thanks your answers Iowa. :P
I really suck this game, i have much trouble beat this one first time. Game controlls are absolutely horrible IMO. My gorea battle took first time over 50 minutes and second time over 40 minutes. This is nice see your run. Because MP Hunter is very hard game speedrun.
I watching your first 3 segments. This was amazing.
I love see this run.
Know anybody weird bsj spot? It is easy find bsj spot in doorway, but this game definitely includes couple weird bsj spot, just like that S_E bsj spot and i found pretty weird bsj spot today in furnace.
I remember his bsj spot was very weird.
I remember Silent Echo found one more weird bsj spot long time ago: Read this topic:
But yeah i belive you can find much more bsj spot around the game. I find pretty weird bsj spot today in furnace. I manage bsj front of the spider track. This surprised me, how i did it, but it doesn,t work again. I remember i push stick back much early than normally.
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2 &3 bsj working very well in refleting pool, but stone toad ghetto is most usefully than bsj here.
There is one very easy spot when you roll through to door and put bomb. And use instant unmorph after bomb explode. I use always that single bsj method in Furnace (without spider ball), because it is even easier than ghetto.
Metroid prime includes bsj jumps too just like Echoes. But there is no very much spot try jump that.
Well i think i can start new topic.
It was really hard, but i finally manage that. Now i can made all Prime trick. Theoretical 22% game is possible start now, but this can be pure hell, because vent shaft was extremely tought and geo core took much time too.
I finally manage vent shaft without boost. I practice bomb jump method, because dash was too hard. Bomb jump took incredible long. It took 2 days and i play that at least 5 hours per day. Total 10-12 hours i think.
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This is really hopeless.  I wonder geo core bomb slot took only 4-5 hours for me. This can be took many months, without good method.
I am trying bomb jump too. Multiple times. Regulary i have much trouble started jump. But if i have much lucky, my best bomb jump attempt ever is when i can get hit my 3rd bomb. I miss always two last bomb. I am practice that UBJ jump at least 3 months total, but i never find right timing put two last bomb.
Yeah when i made dash normally. After it, i push analog stick back and after it: I jump backwards and now i add L button and i keep it off. I trying otherwise too. But nothing works.
Actually i am trying almost every style dash.
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I think, this is now even easier than already, because i think i can rise up if i fall down. I finally learn that UBJ. Thanks vent shaft.
Yes i can.
Anyway i don,t really need that UBJ skill here, because i can use double bomb jump. But MR.X is right this segment can be hard with 22% game itself. But i still belive it is easier than vent shaft & geo core.
I still belive it is easier up rise in life grove tunnel if you fall out, because you not need unmorph. I miss that vent shaft unmorph at least 10-12 times, because it is very hard & precise.
Spinner manipulation took first time almost 30 tries but second time it took only 8-10 tries. This is one spot, it can be took much restart for me.
Thats right.   This not that too hard.
I thnk that sub 30 is much easier with normal route. You are expect jaggerg, you are only who use kraid first route, but i think you get still Hi jumps items.
Jaggerg: I think that TAS route is not best possible with console. He skip Hi jumps and his route is probably pretty worst on console run. I think it is pretty hard try speedrun with TAS route and it is slower too.
Amazing. Once again new sub 30 run. Even 3 seconds faster than my own record.
You got sub 30 with normal mode (kraid first). Can you planned try that with hard mode? Even sub 33 minutes.
ajbolt89 hard mode record can be too hard beat with Ridley first route. I think sub 35 can be possible with Ridley first. But Kraid first route is better choise here IMO, because you need much more SM fire power in Tourian. I am sure sub 33.30 is very possible. Even sub 33 will be possible.
I have always much trouble skip acid worm with HBJ. I did that only once and it took me almost 2 months. Still i never can apply that speedrun.
I think that kraid first route is bit better choise hard mode than normal mode IMO. I beat my current hard mode run with Transience/Ridley first route and i got 35.52. It is near 2 minutes slower than WR.
Hey Jaggerg. Are you planned seriously try & recorder hard any-% speedrun?
Still 47 SS is nice time.
If you get screw attack you lose at most 2 minutes game time. I remember that Ridley lair segment first part took almost 3-4 minutes with my 100% run and i collect everysingle Ridley lair items/expansions before save before Ridley.
Expect Kraid first route & HBJ route is faster in hard mode, because you can pick up much more SM expansions. Tourian is much faster right now & MB too. I don,t know need you that screw attack with hard mode. Ajbolt89 get screw attack, i think it save multiple seconds in Chozodia & it is faster collects refills before barriers & MB.
I think normal route (WR-route) in SDA is faster than kraid first route. But i don,t know how much.
I just couple days ago find new Ruined Nursey speedtrick. Sparky doesn,t use that his 1.28 run:
Hopefully Dragondarch someday complete that 100% sub 55 minutes (what he promise his sig). I belive i never see that. Dragondarch still working on that Lufia run. He started that at least years ago. Hopefully he back work on ZM run once again in near future.
Thomaz complete his sub hour 100% run after my 56.38 run. We can really see, 100% is very unpopular category. Especially 100% hard mode.
I remember last 100% completions in this topic was by me 56.38 on normal mode. I complete that almost years ago. This was very cool time i don,t see any reason try improve that.
After this: i´ve must be back save my game. Hopefully i don,t miss that. There is lot dangerous enemies, example three flying pirates.
That glitch is very randomly but always i manage that wrong place. This piss me off.
This is pretty weird how hell Stefan can complete that in 10 minutes with SS run and smilingjack even faster. I am jumping at least 100-200 near perfect jump, couple good jump glitch off the pole, just under bomb slot.
I´ve must be say i hate geo core :x  I am work on that 2 days and 5-6 hours total but no luck yet. I was very lucky my practice save file. Probably this took bit longer, because i restart my game after 10-15 minutes trying.
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Wish me luck
Next segment is geo core. I manage geo core trick first time faster than vent shaft. But i think geo core is much more lucky than vent shaft. You need more skill in vent shaft than geo core.
My practice save file it took almost 10 hours manage that bomb jump first time.
This was very big surprise. Vent shaft segment took only 8 minutes and took only one restart for me.
MAgmoor cavern time elapsed 1.04.
Ventshaft segment is complete my PAL 22% run.
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But i think i stop my run soon, if i don,t find that idea again. This trick eat 95% my time per day. This borring me seriously.
I think i stop my run possible soon. This is so fun: 4 full days, couple little breaks per day but no luck. I think this succesrate go into bomb slot is 0,00000001% change. I don,t can understand my luck last time. This took only 5 hours. Probably my succes rate was last time better because i was bit drunk. :-s
What hell is my problem. ](*,)
Yesterday i play full day with 60hz mode. Today i change 50hz mode back, because R-jump is at least 50- 75% easier with 50hz.
After 30 hours and 4 days attempts NO LUCK!
Hah hah that geo core is so fun
I really want know what i du wrong. Today is 5th day try that cursed jump.
Is it important unmorph before you getting hit with the pole?
Couple times Samus stop when she take contact with the pole. It never stay in bomb slot, because it place is always wrong. 4 times it was very close. Samus stop right under bomb slot.
Know you that glitch? Samus sometimes stop in the air when he getting contact with the pole. I don,t sure how this working.
I think i am pretty much facing of the bomb slot, i don,t know how precise it is.
Still it sometimes stuck off pole, sometimes even very high. I don,t know how this stuck gltich working. I have couple theory. But who know?
I guess my biggest trouble most of the time is it: How Samus stuck into bomb slot? I think my jump have always much enought distance and i think it is pretty high too. I try always turn my face towards of bomb slot and i try unmorph right timing.
I think that spot here, where you try stuck is not very precise. I remember Pirate109 video his hit is not that perfect. It was enought high but not very straight. Still it working.
But what you think is it idea right when Samus stuck right under bomb slot? Is my goal try stuck Samus bit higher so he can go in bomb slot automatically?
I don,t have very much change made video, because i don,t have any friend who can help me and i don,t have good enought video players in my room. :(
I was close death against fly pirates. I lose 70 energy points here. Luckily i survive save my game 30 energy left. ************************************ Save 13: Time elapsed: 1.24 Magmoor after bomb slot. Save 14: Time elapsed: 1.31 Chozo ruins before life groove (13% item)
My last attempt surprise me , because i watch mainpage video very carefully. My last jump was right indetical as mainpage player.
Took only 6 day and almost 50 hours total.
JES GEO CORE BOMB SLOT IS FINALLY COMPLETED
Good luck with your run. You really need it!
This is bit crazy run. My personal 9% PAL hard stop just in first barrier. It is near impossible beat that barrier part without TAS. You need extremely good refill luck and all refills must be appeared right spot & right time. And: Don,t never lose your energy points, because it drop your missile refill drop rate.
You need 7 missile min against per barrier. You play 9% hard PAL. Seriously?
How your SS run Piccolocube? Are you trying that yet?
Now i don,t need that boost ball in the game. Next real runkiller is last boss. It can be very hard one.
Thanks. Now i complete life groove too. It took only about 30 minutes restartting. :P  I have very good luck here.
I think it is very hard. But if you have very much patience/luck you can probably break that barrier. But there is 3 more barrier yet. I think that last one is very hard, even impossible on console.
Now you can shot 8 missile per barrier. But this is very easily screw up. If you are too fast you get hit with refill too early. If you get hit with the bullets this took too much time. If you shot too slow you need more than 8 missile. I think 7 missile is near impossible with 9% hard mode, because that reload time took bit too much time. I think you need all 8 missile per barrier here.
I belive that method what you need is: Freeze 3 rinkas. You need very precise spots. Dodge all bullets and don,t lose any energy point. Kill all rinkas and if you have luck enought all rinkas drop missile refills. Shot 2 reload shot 2 reload and once again shoot 2, just what spineshark already said.
I belive it is most important. Your must be have always 99 energy points. If you lose any point your energy and if you have two missile max. Rinkas never drops missile refill.
When i play 9% PAL hard so i working that barrier segment two days, but i don,t never had enought luck break first barrier. Sometimes i got three refills, but always wrong places.
If you wait too much time, you need at least 8 missile against per each barrier. That 7 is minimal, but your must be shot your missiles fast enought.
Second time saver what Zoid don,t use. Is it faster if you lay PB before you get X-ray visor.? My opinion it is bit faster  and it is pretty easy time saver too.
You lose almost 10 seconds game time when you rise up spinners with your boost ball. This my idea is crazy, but cool.
Is it faster if you jump into bomb slot in geo core in any-% run?
I think nobody don,t want use that, but it can save almost 10 seconds.
If somebody want try beat Zoid 1.03 run.
I think i have couple time saver idea with any-% run.
But nice time Piccolocube 2.09 is very hardcore time. It is even better than Radix old WR in sda. Hopefully your goal next time is sub 2 hours W/O SW. But you need patience.
Hall of combat mastery is very nasty one, but you don,t really need that, because that dark world route is almost as fast IMO.
If you practice that new route it can save almost 2 minutes. Hell yeah Transit station WO spiderball is very nasty especially if you have trouble made bsj. Watchstation is actually pretty simple, i can du that backward jump in the bomb slot almost 50% of the time. It took some practice first time.
Nice run Piccolocube.
I know i can use PB method too his armor phase, but it is too frustrating manipulate PB refill after this, and i lose always 50 energypoint when i lay PB his armors.
My questions is how i can avoid Omega shield attack his armor phase? How that cheap way working?
I don,t find that in mainpage and nobody don,t use that with segmented run. I remember this is only SS players method. But i don,t have time/motivations dowload any SS runs right now.
What is that cheap way his armor phase what many people use with SS runs? It looks like much Elite pirate cheap way, but it doesn,t work similar.
I have question about Omega pirate my 22% (PAL) run.
EDIT: I complete Omega pirate after 2 hours. Still i dont know how that cheap method working. I use orginal method against Omega. Still i am curious what is that cheap method idea?
Can anybody tell me how i can did that cheap method? I find that in Sparky old 22% run, but i don,t know how i did that. It looks very easy, but it doesn,t work. I think its must be pretty easy, because Stefan use that his 22% SS run.
Yeah, but that is very nasty and long form. And borring too +I try still beat my challenge run fast enought, hopefully sub 3 hours.
I have change get sub 3 hours 22% run if i keep my speed up. Next couple parts is very easy. But last boss will be real pain and long. 20-30 minutes i guess?
But hell yeah i don,t need that this time, because armor phase was pretty easy complete.
I think this not that very uncessary. Especially SS runs, if you have bad PB refill luck before Omega. This is most important trick 22% SS run.
I wonder why nobody put that in mainpage :-s
Oh thanks MR.X :P
EDIT: Cursed simupost
You need almost 20 M against glass and 30-35 against her eye. This not that very hard. If you use my methods: You can jump onto the MB ledge. There is very easy dodge bullets and eye beams
I belive i never can beat this battle.
Wish me luck
Still first form is absolutely hell. Second form without dying will be so tought time ever, i think you don,t can always have as good luck.
I lose 2 ET against him 1st form (+couple ultra energys 4ET total) I lose 30-35 energypoints against his 2nd form ( I have very good luck here, boss never change visor spectra before pool and i don,t miss lot thermal pool hits.
************************************* And without major items segment/battle took me 22  minutes total completed. It was minutes slower than pirate109 battle
Tractor beam attack is more harder with PAL too. Because you don,t can hurt boss when he use that and this hurt always 10-20 energy points per hit. US-versio is once again easier, because you can hurt boss when he use that tractor beam.
Energy orbs attack itself is easy destroyed with missiles but sometimes he shots purple bombs and energy orbs in same time. THis hurt me alot and it is even impossible dodge.
There is couple major trouble. His purple bombs drain easily over 50 energypoints. Energy orbs attack is even more dangerous than purple bombs. It took over energy tanks per hit even normal mode. :(
-First form caused me lot trouble. I never survive alive his 2nd & 3rd chambers my 22% save file. My 100% test attempt without major items took me over 2 energy tanks against his 1st form. +couple ultra energys
-I surprise i complete his second form without lose any energy tanks & W/O thermal.   His 2nd form is as long normal PAL as NTSC hard mode.
ITEMS WHAT I USES: 5-m, no charge, no beam combos 4pb & no thermal visor.
I still uses only low-% items: I Check how hard/long this can be:
I test both form my practice save file (full items max):
I delete my previous post, i don,t need major help against him second form right now.
This is very cool run i think i don,t never want try that again . My time was bit slow, but still enought good for me.
I want thanks these guys: -MR.X -Iowa -Stefan van dijike +Guys: Who give me motivations +WR videos in archive org/SDA
This is finally done. I am very happy man :P
-This was very long operation. I working that one months. I started practice that after i complete my any-% 1.34 run. Run itself took almost 2 weeks. Geo core segment only, took 6 days.
-My last boss was pretty darn fast. Actually 2 minutes faster than pirate109 segment.  I complete 2nd form my first tries, thanks my practice save file.
-Screenshot is done. Watch down:
-32 segment (31-save) (there was multiple very short segment, i get some refill and i use save after this) Run itself includes almost 25-save) Not too much IMO :P
BEST TIME low-% 22%: 2.46 (PAL-versio) :P
JES JES !!!!!! :P
Screenshot is done in post time topic :P
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But luckily everything finally works. My run is complete.
Purple bombs is very dangerous. I died with purple bombs 90% my failed attempts. It is easy dodge, but sometimes, boss use crazy combinations what i already mention. And purple bombs kill almost instantly.
Tractot beam hurt me sometimes, because that is bit randomly sometimes. But luckily this not hurt alot. I know how it is possible dodge, but i miss that often, because it spot is pretty precise. Yeah this beam itself not caused damage, but PRime sometimes caused.
I find pretty avarage idea dodge his attack my completions attempt. +I have good luck too, boss never made crazy attack combinations.
But anyway. This is pretty nice accomplishment IMO.  Who is next?
-Last boss was incredible. It was borring & hard.
Phazon first visit was very hard, because ore prosessing kill me often. I have very good luck in vent shaft & lifegroove in my run. Vent shaft took only one restart & segment itself was good enought.
-Easily hardest part this time was geo core bomb slot. It took me forever. Flaahgra segment took lot too, because it unmorph after Flaahgra caused always trouble.
-Ore prosessing: There is two power trooper in first visit (because main quarry door is locked -Ridley is longer -MP 1 you not can damaged boss when he use Tractor beam -MP 2 is Twice longer
Yeah there is couple bit harder spot on PAL than NTSC:
Thanks!
Heh Thanks your comments. Actually his 2 nd form don,t includes any music this time.
Doorway bsj is old thing. I like use that always in Furnace W/O spider.  But i remember S_E already find couple very weirds bsj spots in orginal Prime. Sorry about off topic, but you can visit in my topic next:
Probably space jump first is bit easier, but this is not big deal manage combat dash method.
*** Heh good reminder Rekamheos. Yeah i don,t mention that, because scan dash don,t made game much easier IMO.
I wish luck, if you want go try that in near future.
Geo core is very random, but if you can du R-jump easily, you need luck only. I have very bad luck my 22% attempt it took me ridiculous long.  But you not need any special skills here. Patience is most usefull than any skills.
I never manage vent shaft dash, i working that 3 days. Bomb jump was luckily bit easier, it took first time almost 10 hours. Luckily when i learn that bomb jump this not too hard trick. Unmorph time is luck time and sometimes it can took lot tries.
Thanks Secretkey. :P  I think if you want go try 22% run in near future. You really need some practice. Geo core & vent shaft, both trick took much practice first time. Especially vent shaft.
I am trying DS controlles too, but it is so horrible game play IMO. SP controlles feel like avarage. But yeah i don,t still like play with SP because it hurt my hands.
I suck this game if i don,t use my GBA
I play my ZM always my orginal GBA.
Still nice job and good luck your next SS run.
Yeah i really know that Acid worm skip is really nasty one with SS run. It took always much restarting for me. It kill almost 5 my SS attempts. I did that once my SS attempt. It was my slowest SS attempt. But run was enought ok. Probably i can try 31.xx SS run, but Acid worm skip is good reason why i don,t like try improve my time. It is really nasty trick and bit random manipulate too. I never have good enought succesrate with AW skip. Still it luck time with SS run.
Really nice SS run Secretkey. My own SS time was almost minutes faster than your.
Pirate109 run was pretty slow too. It don,t look US- 22% runs. My own last boss was whole 2 minutes faster than pirate109 battle.  There is very possible get sub 1.30 22% on PAL. But nobody don,t like speedrun 22% runs on PAL. It is pure hell . Pirate109 record is enought good. We all know Stefan can beat that easily because his low-% skills are very good.
My time was still pure joke. My run includes couple huge time lost: -2 minutes in ore prosessing (i miss power troopers skip. I kill both pirates. If you screw up that skip: Only way survive alive is kill both troopers) -1-2 minutes against invisible dynamo drone -2-3 minutes in PB maze -3 minutes in vent shaft -20 minutes in geo core (after 6 days and 50 hours i don,t see any points restart my game. 20 minutes pure mistakes was good enought for me) -MQA segment was 3 minutes slower than my any-% run. -1-2 minutes against Omega pirate -2 minutes NO Thardus dash -+Many little time lost everywhere.
Yeah 22% completion surprised me as well. It was so great see 22% ending.
Thanks Tonski!
W/O ice & hi jumps must be very hard. But definitely possible if you are good enought bomb jumper.
I get X-ray scope without Hi jumps but i still need that ice beam, because i suck bomb jumps. Still W/O hi jumps only was bit hard, took me while.
Try get X-ray scope without Hi jumps & without ice beam and of course without grapple beam.
One nice challenge is:
This is so weird, but i don,t 100% sure how this trick working. Actually i don,t know but i guess you need very precise timing lay bombs and of course bit luck. Especially SS run.
Heh My AW skip skills working very randomly. Sometimes i have very good succesrate, sometimes very bad. Sometimes my succesrate is even 75% sometimes under 10%.
Nobody never can completed hard low-% SS on Prime and Echoes low-% hard mode challenge is impossible with single segment IMO.
This is only low-% hard mode SS run ever metroid game history, congrats . I don,t have this game yet, that is why i ask. Sound like pretty nice. It sounds even easy, because this run took only couple days for you. Is game much easier than other Primes?
Wait: Hyper mode is hardest difficult setting & 22% lowest-% items? Right?
Heh and don,t forget mention he did that with single segment. Without save & without dying. Over three hours marathon without dying.
Long post. Good luck your crazy run.
But all low-% hard SS runs are incredible. If i understand right Paraxade try beat Hyper SS without deaths. This must be incredible, you not really need any checkpoints. Still i think, if this can be possible this is first SS hard mode run ever. This must be so cool.
Echoes 22% hard SS requires too much luck too. You need right refills drops against bosses, i really remember how pain Quadraxis was. I died mutiple times. Many dieds come when he drop wrong refills or i made some stupid mistakes. Normal low-% battle is much easier, because there is no crazy leg form.
Hard mode low-% runs in other primes must be cool. I really want see orginal Prime SS low-% hard mode run. My opinion it is impossible because it requires too much luck at one sitting.
But 21% in Echoes SS is absolutely impossible. Grapple skip is so random and if you miss that once your game is over. This never will happen.
Echoes normal 22% SS: I remember Rekamheos was pretty close completed that, i remember he mention, he use only one save point.  Boost guardian is not real trouble on normal SS. It is as difficult normal low-% as any-% W/O dark suit IMO.
Yeah This is only Prime series game where are low-% SS runs in SDA. Still not hard mode low-% SS yet.
What is that special ghetto trick what i need? I Probably going try 100% test run in near future, but i need some practice yet. Example number 2 is very important. It can save even 1-2 minutes game time.
3: Quarantine cave (Thardus room) missile expansion ghetto. There is possible use ghetto just like Pirate109. This is absolutely too high for me. I working that almost one hour today. Mainpage don,t includes that speedtrick.  There is possible get that W/O grapple if you use enemy jump. This method is easy, but it is almost 30-45 seconds slower than ghetto.
2: Grapple without Spider ball (ore prosessing 100% speedtrick). It looks easy in mainpage, but ghetto don,t never give enought heights before last stairs. I working that yesterday almost 2 hours, but heights is too low. Main page video:
1: Landing site ghetto (this not important, because this not really save much time, but i not never managed that)
Still There is 3 impossible ghetto jumps yet, what i never completed:
One special ghetto was gravity chamber ghetto. It took me first time while, but it was totally easy when i jump R-jump after ghetto. This not my trouble now but:
Regular ghetto jump is very easy, but this game includes couple special ghetto jump (doesn,t work same way than normal ghetto)
I have couple special ghetto trouble.
It never stay onto the track. Of course i can use alternate method too, but it is almost 1-2 minutes slower, i guess.
LOWEST VIDEO here:
My only problem is rise up onto the last floor. I need that trick only 100% run. First two floor is simple as you said there are that alternate method and i use always that. My only problem is:
Thanks but i know two first floor. It easy W/O spider just like any-% & low-% runs.
I know i do something little things wrong, but i don,t know what i doing wrong. Anyway
I think you need bit higher jump than L-jump ghetto. L-jump ghetto not give enought heights never. I trying that almost one-two hours. This is hard explains better. But i think i do something wrong, because many WR player manage that easily without dying but my jumps don,t give enought heights.
My trouble is that bottom/lowest video. That jump onto the spider track, before grapple beam.
Yeah my jumps looks lot like mainpage video. I trying Pirate109 method too. Only what i need yet is that extra push after my second jump. I think my head not take contact with spider track.
If you have US versio you can use alternate route too. You can use Mainquarry shortcuts. This route is easier but it working US versio only. If you use that route your not need worry about pirates never.
This is most popular low-% questions. I think if you play hard mode. Easiest way is skip those pirates. Try find invisble ledges fast enought (watch low-% video in SDA).  This is not easy place, took easily many tries.
Sub 2 hours must be very hard. But yeah i need spend much more time than 3 days.
Yeah this not very good run, but good enought for me. Looks lot like my Echoes 100% run it was 2.42. I perform lot hard speedtrick here. I get lot early expansions. THis run is overall good for me.   This took me almost 3 days.
I use still couple crazy trick. I use Observatory puzzle skip. It was so hard. i working that couple hours. It dash was very high But i finally manage that dash twice without dying and i was happy :P
-I don,t use hall of elders bomb jump. My succesrate suck here. -I don,t use Sesshoumaru  bomb jump, because it is hard and segment itself was hard too. -I don,t use Thardus dash because it is slower IMO. People ask why it is slower? I answer: It is slower because i need get that Thardush room missile W/O grapple. Sheegoth don,t appear if i use Thardus dash. -I don,t use grapple W/O spider trick. I fixed that puzzle, i timing it: it took 50 seconds-1 minutes game time. Not too much IMO)
I don,t use all crazy trick. I never use early artifact trick in Phazon mines. Actually i don,t understand how this working i died before i get out here. Still i have full 13 energy tanks, but my PAL versio is probably bit slow, because Phazon eat all my 13 energy tanks. Weird
2: I get X ray visor before Space pirate frigate. I decide use that route because i need PB refills before Phazon mines.
1: I get wave blaster much early. After i beat Sheegoth. I use floor skip speedtrick expect first floor (first floor is hard with PAL versio). Luckily 2nd & 3rd floor is easier skip when i find alternate R-jump method. Dash feel absolutely too hard apply speedrun. R-jump is as fast and easier IMO.
I use pretty much same route as WR player. Couple route change too:
This is my first 100% speedrun. It was bit slow. Route was unknow and much harder than any-% route.
Best time 100%: 2.16 (PAL- versio) :P
I have always trouble made very high dashes. EXAMPLE: I never managed vent shaft dash my 22% save file, luckily i learn that bomb jump here.
Yeah when i jump Obsevatory dash i use Space pirate dash. I freeze lowest pirate first. When i dash: I push R button off after my dash. This bent my dash and especially it give me lot distance and bit heights too. But still heights is always harder. It took always restarts.
Waveblaster dash is not very important. I manage that couple times my practice save file, it took always lot tries. R-jump is as fast method as dash here, i decide use that. Main page don,t mentions R- jump method??? :-s
Thanks Craztad. Nice see i am watching couple your run in youtube already. You are one very good RPime players.
Sub 1.30 must be so insane goal
Yeah i remember you already mention this your any-% run comments. Hopefully your insane low-% run is done somedays. I really want see one more low-% run by you.
Nice see Stefan you still working on your low-% run
Congrats your time This trick can drop your time pretty much. You can skip many M-expansions and gltich itself save too.
This was first time my big trouble, Tonski have already same trouble as me. But when you learn that it is pretty easy.
When you freeze rinka. Try jump spin jumps towards of zebetite. This is important: Don,t jump too high jumps. Your jumps must be low enought.
I have much trouble first time too. Tonski tell me one important tips, now i tell this with you:
That Zebetite glitch is simple when you learn it.
It was so nice run, probably lowest possible. 23.5x is probably too hard even TAS. I know it was close. This is one coolest TAS ever what i see, just like ZM tas run too.
I watch that in youtube. I think you made some mistake when you recorded that. TAS part 1 ending when you get charge beam TAS part 2 start when you get PB. But this not very important.
Amazing TAS. I just watch it.