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  1. TF2: You Will (Not) Play
  2. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JNxg5stxlhk
  3. Uploaded February 14th, 2025 at 12:30PM CST
  4. Broke 116K views [Same as Zesty Jesus's subscriber count] on February 15th, 2025 at 8:00AM CST
  5.  
  6. Timestamps:
  7. 00:00:00 INTRO
  8.  
  9. PART 0
  10. 00:03:19 GENESIS
  11. 00:03:40 TF2 Origins from Quake
  12. 00:04:25 John Carmack Creator of Quake Interview - Quake isn't Approachable to New Players
  13. 00:04:55 Quake Team Fortress (1996) and Classes
  14. 00:05:30 Robin Walker on TF's Core Game Design Philosophy - Game Accessible for Everyone including Newbies
  15. 00:06:25 Engineer as an example for a class designed for non-hardcore players as said by Robin Walker
  16. 00:07:40 Quake bunnyhopping
  17. 00:08:01 Players are able to switch classes at any time they want as said by Charlie Brown (TF2 Dev)
  18. 00:09:19 TF2's large team sizes create the illusion of teamwork as said by Robin Walker
  19.  
  20. PART 1
  21. 00:11:50 OUR PRIME
  22. 00:21:34 Comp TF2 Frag Montage, Origins, Basic Rules & Explanation
  23. 00:25:58 Gas Passer LOL
  24. 00:27:27 Peak TF2 Dates
  25. 00:34:00 The Quickplay Era
  26.  
  27. PART 2
  28. 00:49:21 IMITATION
  29. 00:47:38 Post-2013 Quickplay Era Features (The best version of Quickplay)
  30. 00:49:21 Imitation of other games (microtransactions, and eSports)
  31. 00:54:00 Where was TF2 when Dota 2 and CSGO grew very fast?
  32. 00:55:45 Why was TF2 not growing?
  33. 01:00:10 Valve tries to copy eSports formula from CSGO and DOTA2 into TF2
  34. 01:03:40 Why Comp TF2 didn't grow
  35. 01:04:20 Vanilla and Comp TF2 are different game modes and why Comp TF2 is not popular
  36. 01:07:32 CS:GO has the same fundamental gamemode for both casual and competitive and seamless transition from casual to competitive in CS
  37. 01:08:26 Valve couldn't push comp TF2 to casual TF2 players
  38. 01:08:35 The fabled "Gap" between Vanilla and Competitive TF2; but the gap is a chasm
  39. 01:19:27 Valve interview on Casual and Competitive TF2 and tried to make both into one
  40. 01:11:08 Comp players meet with Valve on 2013
  41. 01:14:00 Most anticipated updates in TF2 history
  42. 01:17:00 Comp Players send a letter to Valve
  43. 01:20:50 Option 1 - No class limits or weapon bans; Rebalance for a new format
  44. 01:26:00 Option 2 - Create a new competitive format
  45. 01:29:30 TF2 was designed to be FUN FIRST
  46. 01:13:20 Skillbased Matchmaking Problems
  47. 01:37:00 TF2 Competitive Beta
  48.  
  49. PART 3
  50. 01:37:32 THE BETAS
  51. 01:50:30 No restrictions Sixes clips
  52. 01:53:32 Overwatch releases
  53. 01:54:30 "Neato"
  54.  
  55. PART 4
  56. 01:58:43 YOU WILL NOT PLAY
  57. 01:58:10 Meet your Match Update and its problems
  58. 02:02:23 Quickplay Removed, Casual Mode Implemented
  59. 02:08:55 Casual Mode Day One
  60. 02:11:30 Skill-based Matchmaking does not work
  61. 02:19:03 Post-2013 Quickplay Era Features vs Meet your Match Features
  62. 02:22:32 Valve not listening to bring back Quickplay, TF2 gets review bombed, Valve only listened to the minority of the playerbase
  63. 02:23:24 Uncle Dane's thoughts on bridging Casual and Competitive
  64.  
  65. PART 5
  66. 02:25:20 TF2 IS BROKEN
  67. 02:26:20 Casual Mode Update History
  68. 02:28:50 Nightfall and Pipeline were popular maps back in the day
  69. 02:29:00 Casual Queuing vs. Quickplay Queuing
  70. 02:30:40 Options
  71. 02:31:40 Too many maps and long queue times
  72. 02:33:35 Games end too quickly
  73. 02:33:46 Payload's the only gamemode that serves the longest amount of playtime due to Casual (and why Payload is popular nowadays)
  74. 02:36:00 21 days after Meet your Match launched
  75. 02:36:28 Matchmaking system breaks TF2
  76.  
  77. 02:37:10 Quickplay vs Casual Mode in Detail, Problems with Casual Mode
  78. 02:41:50 Why many games in TF2 are total stomps and why you keep re-queuing
  79. 02:43:00 67 days after Meet your Match launched
  80. 02:44:50 Casual vs Quickplay Loading Times
  81. 02:45:50 82 days after Wait your Match launched
  82. 02:48:00 167 days after Wait your Match launched
  83. 02:48:30 Map votes when map timer used to be 45 minutes
  84. 02:50:00 Player incentivized to leave after maps end because of Casual mode
  85. 02:51:36 Valve reintroduces autobalance (another feature of Quickplay added back to Casual mode)
  86. 02:53:00 Autobalance interrupted by the matchmaking system
  87. 02:54:00 There is no functional middleground between Casual and Quickplay due to the existence of the matchmaking system
  88. 02:54:15 470 days after Meet your match - Jungle Inferno update
  89. 02:55:30 TF2 community gaslighted while waiting to queue (even though Quickplay allowed you to do stuff)
  90. 02:56:53 Example of live frustration queuing for Casual with friends - WAITING (another reason why Quickplay and ad-hoc connections are better)
  91. 02:59:00 Jungle Inferno did nothing to improve gameplay at its core
  92. 03:00:00 629 days after Wait your Match
  93. 03:01:30 Valve overhauled Competitive Mode? (and failed)
  94. 03:02:41 3,052 days after Meet your Match (Nov. 14, 2024) - Matchmaking improvements (band-aids)
  95. 03:04:30 TF2 in 2025 still broken
  96. 03:06:00 Quickplay was QUICK
  97. 03:08:05 Valve admits matchmaking doesn't work yet tries to keep Casual mode due to sunk cost
  98. 03:11:55 Stockholm Syndrome'd to keep leaving and queueing for Casual examples
  99. 03:12:10 Final version of Quickplay being referred to is the 2014 version
  100.  
  101. PART 6
  102. 03:13:00 DEATH OF COMMUNITY SERVERS
  103. 03:14:40 Quickplay defaulting to Valve servers was necessary to combat predatory servers
  104. 03:15:10 Community servers could still be searched with Quickplay and were still alive even after Valve servers were defaulted in Quickplay
  105. 03:16:36 Meet your Match arrived and killed off Community Servers, removed Show Servers option
  106. 03:17:30 Rapid Extinction of Community Servers due to Meet your Match
  107. 03:18:50 Prisoner's Dilemma
  108. 03:20:30 Only Community servers left in TF2 (also Castaway servers too)
  109. 03:22:30 Old True TF2 Community Server Culture Soul Gone - Modern TF2 is a shadow of its former self
  110. 03:23:20 CastawayTF Community Weapon Reverts Server footage in 2024
  111. 03:23:53 Valve tried to turn TF2 into another eSport
  112. 03:24:35 Valve worked on Meet your Match for 4 years (fails and gives up)
  113. 03:25:40 Valve interview on Counter-Strike gambling (if TF2 dies so will CS)
  114.  
  115. PART 7
  116. 03:27:13 BOTS - One Final Gift from Meet your Match
  117. 03:27:30 How a full server during the quickplay era stops cheaters
  118. 03:29:10 How Casual matchmaking gives cheaters ideal conditions for exploitation
  119. 03:31:35 Example of bot hoster
  120. 03:32:14 Appearance of Cheater Bots days after Meet your Match
  121. 03:34:27 Bot hoster screenshots
  122. 03:35:15 Valve ignored bots for the first 4 years
  123. 03:36:10 Valve mutes F2Ps because of bots
  124. 03:38:00 One Valve Contractor works on TF2 part-time because they couldn't play the game
  125. 03:40:00 Valve starts working on Deadlock, pushes out fix for bots
  126. 03:41:45 How much money TF2 made during the Bot Crisis? (multi-millions)
  127. 03:42:30 The only reason why Valve gets a pass because of something 20 years ago (old Valve is gone)
  128.  
  129. PART 8
  130. 03:43:21 ACCOUNTABILITY
  131. 03:43:22 Uncle Dane - matchmaking system
  132. 03:43:39 Array Seven - TF2 has a future as an eSport
  133. 03:44:14 Former Valve Writer - Chet Falizek on Competitive push killing old TF2
  134. 03:45:00 Muselk - Valve only listened to Comp TF2 players and should have listened to other players who are the majority of their playerbase; Valve does not understand its game.
  135. 03:46:15 Ster - Meet your Match was the worst update ever, competitive TF2 is a very small minority, Ster meets toxic comp players
  136. 03:47:55 Zesty Jesus' Thoughts and Opinions on Valve
  137. 03:49:20 TF2 is a brutally loyal fanbase - Valve is very lucky
  138. 03:49:44 Valve is a product and service company that made good games 20 years ago
  139. 03:50:15 Valve has a history of mishandling their games including Counter-Strike
  140. 03:51:00 Bots are slowly coming back to TF2 again in 2025
  141. 03:51:50 Valve does not care, only money
  142. 03:53:00 It's okay to talk about the game's problems, you're a consumer
  143. 03:56:20 If the state of TF2 continues on, it will go down in history
  144.  
  145. CREDITS
  146. 03:56:41 Music Outro & Credits
  147. 03:59:00 Steam Reviews throughout 2016
  148. 03:59:15 "Our time of glory has passed."
  149. 03:59:27 "Unapologetic, casual laziness"
  150. 03:59:31 "TF2 is a staple in your community. You are - it up by trying to be something you're not."
  151. 03:59:37 "They can turn this around by listening to their players. They just chose not to."
  152. 03:59:42 "They demolished what was so special about this game to cater to the 3% that plays competitively."
  153. 03:59:48 "Valve decided to worsen what was bad and remove what was good."
  154. 03:59:54 "We cared about having fun in the moment. Valve decided that TF2 should become the opposite."
  155. 03:59:58 "The best part was how relaxed it was. Nobody cared about winning."
  156. 04:00:03 "The whole atmosphere of the game changed, TF2 turned into a game I do not know."
  157. 04:00:09 "I can't understand why...Valve, what have you done?"
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