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  1. [2016 02 25 05:48:26] <TheSin> ??
  2. [2016 02 25 05:50:12] <traeak> milli cent
  3. [2016 02 25 05:50:41] <traeak> running idle in a plastic case with an old vga cooler ram heatsink i'm idling at 43.3
  4. [2016 02 25 05:50:45] <traeak> is that reasonable?
  5. [2016 02 25 05:50:49] <yoosi> very
  6. [2016 02 25 05:51:00] <yoosi> You shouldn't worry until you pass 80
  7. [2016 02 25 05:52:03] <traeak> just going to test a chromiumrpi build for someone
  8. [2016 02 25 05:52:15] <traeak> i guess they're OCing so want to keep an eye on that
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  10. [2016 02 25 05:53:17] <yoosi> Make sure you stay away from heatsinks. They're usually more harm than good
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  14. [2016 02 25 05:57:56] <traeak> poor contact ?
  15. [2016 02 25 05:58:10] <t3chguy> additional thermal capacity
  16. [2016 02 25 05:58:42] <t3chguy> a heatsink may seem to lower temps but unless it can dissipate the heat, it'll simply store thermal energy
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  18. [2016 02 25 05:59:41] <TheSin> traeak, sorry was afk, yah it's mC and 43.3 is pretty normal
  19. [2016 02 25 06:00:01] <traeak> hmm
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  21. [2016 02 25 06:00:47] <traeak> but then a heat sink may sort of act as a low pass filter on the thermals
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  23. [2016 02 25 06:01:06] <t3chguy> storing thermal energy simply means it'll heat up slower
  24. [2016 02 25 06:01:08] <DWKnight> heat sinks on their own can only do so much
  25. [2016 02 25 06:01:09] <traeak> if sustained slamming that means it will take longer to thermal damage
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  27. [2016 02 25 06:01:22] <t3chguy> which is great for short-term runs
  28. [2016 02 25 06:01:28] <traeak> but it won't stop the thermal damage
  29. [2016 02 25 06:01:38] <t3chguy> but if you can't remove that thermal energy then they're not useful for 24/7 runs
  30. [2016 02 25 06:02:00] <t3chguy> also depends on the core material of the heatsink
  31. [2016 02 25 06:02:05] <t3chguy> Copper is more likely to store the energy
  32. [2016 02 25 06:02:08] <t3chguy> than say Aluminium
  33. [2016 02 25 06:02:23] <yoosi> Many of the cheap heatsinks marketed for RPi use poor quality adhesive that doesn't transfer heat well and act more like a blanket
  34. [2016 02 25 06:02:42] <t3chguy> I tend to get adhesive-less ones
  35. [2016 02 25 06:02:45] <t3chguy> and use Ceramique
  36. [2016 02 25 06:02:57] <t3chguy> by Arctic Silver
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  38. [2016 02 25 06:03:14] <traeak> so whatever sink i'm using is probably of the suck variety, copper with adhesive on it
  39. [2016 02 25 06:03:20] <traeak> although it does get warm
  40. [2016 02 25 06:03:39] <t3chguy> traeak: I have a bunch of those, they're not BAD, but they by design aren't ideal for long term runs
  41. [2016 02 25 06:03:50] <t3chguy> they're more for sinking thermals quickly for a short-ish amount of time
  42. [2016 02 25 06:04:03] <traeak> the low pass filter i mentioned above :-p
  43. [2016 02 25 06:04:08] <t3chguy> Copper will dissipate energy slower but will also absorb it quicker
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  45. [2016 02 25 06:04:24] <traeak> you got to throw us physics type guys a bone :-p
  46. [2016 02 25 06:04:32] <t3chguy> they do look neat though
  47. [2016 02 25 06:04:43] <t3chguy> I do like the look of heatsinks on electronics which is probably my #1 reason for using it
  48. [2016 02 25 06:04:44] <yoosi> ++ for style points
  49. [2016 02 25 06:04:48] <t3chguy> yoosi: exactly
  50. [2016 02 25 06:05:00] <DWKnight> thermal transfer surface area and heat capacity maths
  51. [2016 02 25 06:05:08] <yoosi> C4Labs includes heatsinks with their Pi Zero wood case and even said it's just for style
  52. [2016 02 25 06:05:11] <t3chguy> traeak: that sort? https://bit.ovh/2016/01/29/Pimoroni/image4.jpg (middle Zero)
  53. [2016 02 25 06:05:14] <yoosi> Like a spoiler on a run down honda
  54. [2016 02 25 06:05:57] <DWKnight> https://www.dropbox.com/s/plir8emhuopc8kp/2016-02-16%2022.54.23.jpg?dl=0 that's the kind I got
  55. [2016 02 25 06:06:00] <traeak> t3chguy: mine's similar to that, a bit larger
  56. [2016 02 25 06:06:24] <yoosi> I like those headers, with the walls around it
  57. [2016 02 25 06:06:25] <traeak> t3chguy: just counted, same fins
  58. [2016 02 25 06:06:30] <yoosi> Haven't seen that on a Pi Zero before
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  64. [2016 02 25 06:07:01] <traeak> btw, is there a max transfer rate on the uSD ?
  65. [2016 02 25 06:07:12] <mgottschlag> yes.
  66. [2016 02 25 06:07:13] <t3chguy> yoosi: shrouded header, it was a pain to get on
  67. [2016 02 25 06:07:18] <traeak> just asking since i saw sandisk advertised a 275MB/s read 100MB/s write card
  68. [2016 02 25 06:07:21] <traeak> yesterday
  69. [2016 02 25 06:07:25] <t3chguy> 5 surface mount components in the way of the shroud
  70. [2016 02 25 06:07:42] <DWKnight> traeak: that's limited by the reader if the reader itself is slower
  71. [2016 02 25 06:07:42] <t3chguy> so yoosi - had to dremel it, but does mean that I can't get my ribbon cable the wrong way around and fry things :P
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  77. [2016 02 25 06:08:16] <traeak> DWKnight: of course, which woudl be limited by the rpi :-p
  78. [2016 02 25 06:08:44] <DWKnight> the rpi is probably capped at 48 or so
  79. [2016 02 25 06:09:15] <traeak> still respectible
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  81. [2016 02 25 06:09:29] <traeak> its not like IDE drives were much faster
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  83. [2016 02 25 06:11:18] <DJSBX> so, looking for an opinion. I primary do python dev, and I used to use RPIO, but it seems like that lib doesn't support the new pins in the newer models, and RPi.GPIO doesn't really have all the features I want. I havent tried WiringPi2, or gpiozero, but I'm wondering what the community things the best python lib for GPIO stuff for the pi is these days.
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  101. [2016 02 25 06:21:48] <methuzla> DJSBX i think RPi.GPIO is it for python
  102. [2016 02 25 06:22:00] <methuzla> DJSBX wiringpi is C
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  112. [2016 02 25 06:31:40] <DJSBX> methuzla: well, I'm pretty sure that's incorrect so...
  113. [2016 02 25 06:32:01] <DJSBX> since I know wiringpi2 has a python version
  114. [2016 02 25 06:32:09] <DJSBX> and I know there is also RPIO
  115. [2016 02 25 06:32:13] <DJSBX> and gpiozero
  116. [2016 02 25 06:32:15] <DJSBX> for python as well
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  118. [2016 02 25 06:34:10] <jancoow> hi t3chguy
  119. [2016 02 25 06:34:35] <jancoow> i've connected the pi to the i2c bus, i detected 2 adresses: 0x34 and 0x50
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  134. [2016 02 25 06:51:48] <BrownPanick> I'm running into an issue on my pi where after running a short ( < 30 minutes) time, the filesystem seems to be missing - ie, it's as if someone ran rm -rf /
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  137. [2016 02 25 06:52:17] <BrownPanick> everything still appears to run fine and if I am already ssh'd in, any command I try to run I get "command not found"
  138. [2016 02 25 06:52:34] <BrownPanick> trying to ssh in after this has happend immediately gives me connection refused
  139. [2016 02 25 06:52:46] <BrownPanick> not sure if this would be the correct channel to get some help, but...
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  142. [2016 02 25 06:54:34] <TheLostAdmin> Hi BrownPanick, I haven't run into your problem. Have you tried the obvious solutions yet? Thinks like FSCK on the filesystem(s), checking logs, etc.?
  143. [2016 02 25 06:54:59] <pksato> BrownPanick: This channel is to talk about raspberry pi. Some times, can help guyu with random problems with rpies.
  144. [2016 02 25 06:55:08] <BrownPanick> TheLostAdmin, yeah, I've checked around in the logs, there's nothing obvious
  145. [2016 02 25 06:55:19] <pksato> BrownPanick: even simple ls give command not found?
  146. [2016 02 25 06:55:19] <BrownPanick> not sure if it might be a power issue?
  147. [2016 02 25 06:55:37] <pksato> or, echo "ok"
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  149. [2016 02 25 06:55:57] <BrownPanick> pksato, not tried bash built-ins that I know of :)
  150. [2016 02 25 06:56:28] <pksato> ls /bin
  151. [2016 02 25 06:56:31] <TheLostAdmin> Hmm, related to that "echo *", which would just list the files in the current directory, might be worth a try too.
  152. [2016 02 25 06:56:33] <pksato> ls /usr/bin
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  154. [2016 02 25 06:56:41] <pksato> list files?
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  157. [2016 02 25 06:57:13] <TheLostAdmin> echo is built in to the command interpreter, so it'll work as long as you are logged in.
  158. [2016 02 25 06:57:27] <TheLostAdmin> * will be globbed to all the file names in the current directory.
  159. [2016 02 25 06:57:37] <TheLostAdmin> It's useful if your ls command gets corrupted.
  160. [2016 02 25 06:59:32] <pksato> Oh, my mistake. ls is not intenal command.
  161. [2016 02 25 07:00:06] <Anitox> http://i.imgur.com/FTlY79Q.gifv
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  164. [2016 02 25 07:00:46] <BrownPanick> pksato ls gives an "ls: command not found" error
  165. [2016 02 25 07:00:56] <BrownPanick> again, it's as if all files and everything are just... gone
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  167. [2016 02 25 07:01:00] <pksato> echo /bin/*
  168. [2016 02 25 07:01:18] <Anitox> echo $PATH
  169. [2016 02 25 07:01:39] <gordonDrogon> evening.
  170. [2016 02 25 07:01:49] <pksato> I suspect of some kind og fail on sd card.
  171. [2016 02 25 07:02:32] <gordonDrogon> DJSBX, the version of wiringPi with the Python wrappers (incorrectly called wiringPi2) is a few versions out of date, but should work over all Pi versions.
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  173. [2016 02 25 07:03:03] <BrownPanick> pksato I'll try a different one
  174. [2016 02 25 07:03:35] <BrownPanick> the reason I was wondering about power is because when it gets like this I have to unplug the PSU from the wall, wait a few seconds, then plug it back in
  175. [2016 02 25 07:03:41] <BrownPanick> in order for it to power back up
  176. [2016 02 25 07:03:51] <BrownPanick> I get a red light, but it never boots
  177. [2016 02 25 07:04:02] <pksato> BrownPanick: replace SPU.
  178. [2016 02 25 07:04:20] <BrownPanick> unplugging from the micro usb does not gives the same result, ie, power on but no boot
  179. [2016 02 25 07:04:52] <BrownPanick> just wanted to see if anyone else had similar issues before I started dumping money into replacement parts
  180. [2016 02 25 07:05:10] <gordonDrogon> the usual Pi boot issues are PSU and SD card...
  181. [2016 02 25 07:05:22] <gordonDrogon> PSU ought to be east to change if you have mobile phone chargers...
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  183. [2016 02 25 07:05:31] <BrownPanick> 1 amp supply should be sufficient, yes?
  184. [2016 02 25 07:05:45] <gordonDrogon> it should be ... but over the years we've seen some really bad ones, sadly.
  185. [2016 02 25 07:05:55] <gordonDrogon> ie. ones that really don't live up to their claims.
  186. [2016 02 25 07:05:58] <BrownPanick> I can't even remember what Pi rev this is
  187. [2016 02 25 07:06:08] <gordonDrogon> how many USB sockets?
  188. [2016 02 25 07:06:14] <BrownPanick> it's the 512MB one with 2 USB
  189. [2016 02 25 07:06:17] <BrownPanick> that ^
  190. [2016 02 25 07:06:26] <gordonDrogon> ok. so it doesn't have the power monitoring hardware on it.
  191. [2016 02 25 07:06:55] <gordonDrogon> On power up - the red led ought to light, then the green one ought to give a flicker - then maybe go off for hanf a second then flicker more.
  192. [2016 02 25 07:06:58] <TheLostAdmin> BrownPanick, 1 amp should be with a big BUT ... advertised 1 AMP and sustainable 1 AMP are very different.
  193. [2016 02 25 07:07:02] <BrownPanick> I'll wait until it flakes out again and see if shell built-ins work and see if anything turns up
  194. [2016 02 25 07:07:25] <BrownPanick> gordonDrogon, yeah, I can only get that if I unplug from the wall for a bit
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  196. [2016 02 25 07:07:30] <TheLostAdmin> Also a couple of power hungry USB attached things (like a WiFi dongle and a USB hard drive) could quickly eat enough of that 1 amp to cause proglems.
  197. [2016 02 25 07:07:48] <BrownPanick> or a crypto miner... :)
  198. [2016 02 25 07:07:59] <BrownPanick> but I eliminated that portion of it
  199. [2016 02 25 07:08:02] <gordonDrogon> yes - unplug USB stuff other than a keyboard if you suspect power issues.
  200. [2016 02 25 07:08:29] <gordonDrogon> if you have a monitor attached you can look for the rainbow square - if you get that then it has at least read the first bootloader off the SD card.
  201. [2016 02 25 07:09:01] <BrownPanick> sadly, I do not have a monitor attache
  202. [2016 02 25 07:09:01] <BrownPanick> d
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  206. [2016 02 25 07:15:10] <James123> Does rasberry have an ARM processor, right? I downloaded a virtualbox image of volumeio to compile some stuff there, can I copy them to raspberry then?
  207. [2016 02 25 07:15:40] <gordonDrogon> yes, ARM. don't know about the rest you're after.
  208. [2016 02 25 07:16:03] <pksato> BrownPanick: you need some way to monitor rpi syslog or/and kernel printk mensages. a netconsole can help. Or serial console.
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  216. [2016 02 25 07:25:55] <BrownPanick> pksato I'll open up an ssh session and tail syslog, and also modify rsyslogd to send kernel messages to my pseudo tty
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  218. [2016 02 25 07:26:59] <BrownPanick> thanks for the help everyone, I'll also try to connect it to my phone charger instead. I've got one that is rated at 1A, same as my pi PSU
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  220. [2016 02 25 07:27:12] <Cyber_Akuma> I want to manage an external USB harddrive with my Pi, but I also want to be able to plug that drive into a Windows machine when needed, so I am not sure what filesystem to use. FAT32 is a no-go to avoid the chance of needing to put a file over 4GB on it... so I guess my only choices would be NTFS and exFAT. Are any one of those better supported or less likely to crash/corrupt on the
  221. [2016 02 25 07:27:12] <Cyber_Akuma> linux-based operating systems you can use on a Pi?
  222. [2016 02 25 07:29:32] <TheLostAdmin> I can't say for sure about Linux, but NTFS has features that most 3rd party implementations don't support.
  223. [2016 02 25 07:29:49] <nid0> use ext4
  224. [2016 02 25 07:29:52] <Cyber_Akuma> I just need read and write, I don't need permissions or any other such features
  225. [2016 02 25 07:29:55] <Cyber_Akuma> windows can't read ext4
  226. [2016 02 25 07:30:05] <nid0> support for ext4 on windows is better than support for ntfs on linux
  227. [2016 02 25 07:30:06] <TheLostAdmin> I would use exFAT myself.
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  230. [2016 02 25 07:31:00] <Cyber_Akuma> Last time I tried to read an ext drive in windows, the only drivers/applications were still only designed for ext2, and ext 3/4 only worked if you used no features that weren't present in 2
  231. [2016 02 25 07:31:56] <-- arien (~arien@185.49.81.164) has quit (Quit: Yawn... zzZzz..)
  232. [2016 02 25 07:32:08] <nid0> presumably that was many years ago.
  233. [2016 02 25 07:32:25] <TheLostAdmin> For me, that was about 6 months ago, nid0.
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  235. [2016 02 25 07:33:09] <nid0> did you miss https://www.paragon-software.com/home/extfs-windows/ and http://www.ext2fsd.com/ ?
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  237. [2016 02 25 07:34:24] -*- hypermist waits frantically for pihut to open orders haha
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  240. [2016 02 25 07:35:29] <Cyber_Akuma> Has anyone used a pi for 3d printing btw? I dion't mean just running octoprint on it, but being able to slice on it.
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  242. [2016 02 25 07:36:13] <jrcharney> What does Retropi/Emulation station launch when you select "configure Wifi"? It looks kind of like raspi-config but it isn't.
  243. [2016 02 25 07:36:29] <ali1234> probably a build in module
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  245. [2016 02 25 07:37:19] <ali1234> jrcharney: specifically this https://github.com/RetroPie/RetroPie-Setup/blob/master/scriptmodules/supplementary/wifi.sh
  246. [2016 02 25 07:37:42] <jrcharney> That looks of interest. ty
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  249. [2016 02 25 07:42:23] <TheLostAdmin> nid0, yep on the first one and I assumed the 2nd was ext2 only, given the name.
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  255. [2016 02 25 07:49:07] <Encrypt> Hey o/
  256. [2016 02 25 07:49:31] <Encrypt> A Raspberry Pi powered robot: https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/aido-next-gen-home-robot--2#/
  257. [2016 02 25 07:52:13] -*- hypermist its nearly time for the pi0's :D!
  258. [2016 02 25 07:54:58] <TheLostAdmin> But can it clean up after me and vacuum the house?
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  261. [2016 02 25 08:03:30] <hypermist> i got my pi0 essentials kit
  262. [2016 02 25 08:03:34] <hypermist> i think i can go back to bed now hahah
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  267. [2016 02 25 08:08:25] <Drzacek> hypermist, you said they don't ship to your country
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  271. [2016 02 25 08:13:15] <ali1234> Encrypt: looks like a scam to me
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  276. [2016 02 25 08:21:36] <TheLostAdmin> ali1234, what makes it looks like a scam?
  277. [2016 02 25 08:22:43] <ali1234> over-promising on features, the list of in-specific awards (best product of 2016 according to who?)
  278. [2016 02 25 08:23:35] <ali1234> using indiegogo to do "pre-orders" instead of just taking pre-orders like any normal company would do
  279. [2016 02 25 08:24:01] <TheLostAdmin> I missed the part about "best product of 2016" but I don't see how you could claim that at this point. The year barely started.
  280. [2016 02 25 08:24:28] <TheLostAdmin> However, all good points.
  281. [2016 02 25 08:24:53] <ali1234> well apparently it's only a nominee
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  285. [2016 02 25 08:25:45] <ali1234> also the thing just looks completely impractical and will probably break the first time it falls over, which it will probably do constantly
  286. [2016 02 25 08:26:06] <TheLostAdmin> Actually, now that you mention it, the "goal" is also suspicious. $75,000 to create a viable home robot seams awfully low. And, while we are at it, 419 backers covering 178,000 is also a bit suspicious for indegogo (to me).
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  288. [2016 02 25 08:26:37] <ali1234> supposedly they already designed and built it and this is just "pre-orders"
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  290. [2016 02 25 08:28:21] <ali1234> most of their videos seem to be CGI which would not be allowed on kickstarter. oh look, they are on indiegogo with a flexible campaign...
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  294. [2016 02 25 08:29:23] <TheLostAdmin> You've convinced me.
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  296. [2016 02 25 08:29:57] <ali1234> i think the ball-bot design they are using is patented too
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  298. [2016 02 25 08:30:31] <ali1234> i think it's subject of on-going litigation anyway
  299. [2016 02 25 08:31:34] <ali1234> having said that i thought the leap motion was a scam too
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  303. [2016 02 25 08:33:37] <jancoow> ali1234: i connected the i2c to the rpi and i found 2 adreses: 0x34 and 0x50 :)
  304. [2016 02 25 08:33:42] <jancoow> now i need to sniffffffff :)
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  313. [2016 02 25 08:48:16] <RoBo_V> ls
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  316. [2016 02 25 08:54:41] <DWKnight> RoBo_V: wrong window apparently
  317. [2016 02 25 08:54:52] <RoBo_V> right :)
  318. [2016 02 25 08:55:03] <jancoow> :P
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  323. [2016 02 25 08:57:56] <ali1234> jancoow: you can use pigpio to sniff
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  325. [2016 02 25 08:58:23] <ali1234> jancoow: http://abyz.co.uk/rpi/pigpio/code/I2C_sniffer.zip
  326. [2016 02 25 08:58:50] <jancoow> cool!!!!
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  328. [2016 02 25 08:59:23] <jancoow> only problem is that the signal is 5v i think
  329. [2016 02 25 08:59:29] <jancoow> but that shouldn't matter i hope
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  337. [2016 02 25 09:10:04] <jancoow> ali1234: would it hurt do you think if i put the 5.5 volt i2c lines to the pi?
  338. [2016 02 25 09:10:26] <ali1234> it depends
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  340. [2016 02 25 09:11:15] <ali1234> 5V slaves are fairly safe because slaves are high-Z or pull the line low
  341. [2016 02 25 09:11:24] <ali1234> a 5V master on the line is not safe
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  343. [2016 02 25 09:11:36] <ali1234> in your case you have a master on the line, so its not safe
  344. [2016 02 25 09:11:43] <jancoow> yeah
  345. [2016 02 25 09:11:45] <ali1234> you need a level shifter, they are cheap on ebay
  346. [2016 02 25 09:11:50] <jancoow> the master has pull up to 5 v
  347. [2016 02 25 09:11:53] <jancoow> i've one i think
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  350. [2016 02 25 09:13:48] <jancoow> yay found one
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  356. [2016 02 25 09:21:12] <alphamale> I got negged in the pihut buyng frenzy, they don't ship to my country
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  363. [2016 02 25 09:30:18] <jancoow> ali1234: i can't run it. It missis some files
  364. [2016 02 25 09:30:20] <jancoow> like pigpio
  365. [2016 02 25 09:30:28] <ali1234> install pigpio?
  366. [2016 02 25 09:31:00] <jancoow> oh it's a lib
  367. [2016 02 25 09:31:19] <gordonDrogon> what is it you're trying to figure out?
  368. [2016 02 25 09:31:33] <jancoow> sniffing i2c
  369. [2016 02 25 09:31:54] <gordonDrogon> to identify devices?
  370. [2016 02 25 09:32:14] <jancoow> speaker controller communicate with i2c to the digital EQ
  371. [2016 02 25 09:32:24] <jancoow> hacking it with a pi :)
  372. [2016 02 25 09:32:32] <gordonDrogon> ok
  373. [2016 02 25 09:32:42] <jancoow> so i can switch input / change volume in my domotica system
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  375. [2016 02 25 09:33:33] <JakeSays> jancoow: hey i'd be curious to know how that i2c sniffer works for you. i'm in need of something like that
  376. [2016 02 25 09:33:56] <jancoow> JakeSays: i will figured it out soon :)
  377. [2016 02 25 09:34:23] <jancoow> and if it doesn't work, tommorow i can get a unlocked rigoh scope with some logic analyzer options ;p
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  382. [2016 02 25 09:39:35] <Znurf> Im having some problems reading the serial inputs from my RF reciever through the GPIO pins, im supposed to connect to the RX pin right? Which should be pin 10? But i dont understand how i can fetch the data on the pin :( I think its just spamming alot of junk there, not what it should recieve from my transmitter
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  384. [2016 02 25 09:40:39] <Znurf> the transmitter is an arduino, but that shouldnt matter i think?
  385. [2016 02 25 09:41:16] <pksato> Znurf: connect TX from radio on RX.
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  387. [2016 02 25 09:42:21] <pksato> and program to use serial port /dev/ttyAMA0 (if I not wrong)
  388. [2016 02 25 09:42:28] <Znurf> I only have one pin on the radio pksato, since its not a transiever its a reciever, i can only recieve, and i you mean that should connect to TX on the PI?
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  390. [2016 02 25 09:42:47] <Znurf> Yes i belive you are right, its called ttyAMA0
  391. [2016 02 25 09:42:58] <jancoow> no, the transmit from the radio to the receive on the raspberry pi
  392. [2016 02 25 09:43:28] <jancoow> what is the baudrate?
  393. [2016 02 25 09:43:38] <pksato> TX level need to be LVTTL (3v3)
  394. [2016 02 25 09:44:32] <pksato> Znurf: start with minicom or other serial terminal.
  395. [2016 02 25 09:44:42] <Znurf> Oh okay, when i say recieve i mean recieve the RF signal :P But i guess its transmitting what it recieves through RF to the PI :P So the signal sent from the reciever to the pi should be the RX on the pi
  396. [2016 02 25 09:44:44] <pksato> disable hardware flow control.
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  398. [2016 02 25 09:46:41] <pksato> Yes... Aduino TX -> RX on Tx module -> The Ether -> Rx module to TX -> RX on raspbeery pi.
  399. [2016 02 25 09:46:46] <Znurf> pksato what do i do then, i have read a few tutorials on the subject and disabled a few things :P
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  401. [2016 02 25 09:46:49] <PCatinean> Hello Hello guys
  402. [2016 02 25 09:46:58] <jancoow> i recommed screen
  403. [2016 02 25 09:47:02] <jancoow> so screen /dev/ttyAMA0
  404. [2016 02 25 09:47:06] <jancoow> but what's the baudrate?
  405. [2016 02 25 09:47:06] <PCatinean> I just bought myself a medium sized breadboard and some led's with 3 sockets in them (also a lot of wires)
  406. [2016 02 25 09:47:20] <PCatinean> I want to make my first thin ever and light a led directly from the GPIO, is that possible? :))
  407. [2016 02 25 09:47:45] <Znurf> jancoow it said screen is not found :P
  408. [2016 02 25 09:47:55] <jancoow> sudo apt-get install screen
  409. [2016 02 25 09:48:04] <pksato> Znurf: to test if minicom or other is working propper, remove RX module and jump pin 10 and pin 8.
  410. [2016 02 25 09:48:24] <pksato> if workink, you have echo.
  411. [2016 02 25 09:48:30] <Znurf> jancoow the baudrate of the arduino or of the rf module? I cant remmeber what the optimal baudrate is on the reciever, but i belive i set the arduino to a baudrate of 2000
  412. [2016 02 25 09:49:18] <pksato> need to have same baudrate on arduino and rpi.
  413. [2016 02 25 09:49:27] <Znurf> okay
  414. [2016 02 25 09:49:59] <pksato> baudrate on rf module capable range.
  415. [2016 02 25 09:50:20] <Znurf> How do i stop the screen command
  416. [2016 02 25 09:50:33] <jancoow> ctrl +a + d
  417. [2016 02 25 09:50:50] <Znurf> thank you
  418. [2016 02 25 09:50:55] <jancoow> np :)
  419. [2016 02 25 09:51:05] <PCatinean> Any1?
  420. [2016 02 25 09:51:07] <Znurf> Well the screen command sure threw alot of junk in my face :D
  421. [2016 02 25 09:51:14] <jancoow> haha
  422. [2016 02 25 09:51:18] <t3chguy> jancoow: thats detach, not kill
  423. [2016 02 25 09:51:29] <t3chguy> C^A, k, y
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  425. [2016 02 25 09:51:38] <jancoow> t3chguy: well that's fine for now
  426. [2016 02 25 09:51:41] <Anitox> or type exit
  427. [2016 02 25 09:51:54] <t3chguy> Anitox: can't type exit if you're using screen for its Serial functionality
  428. [2016 02 25 09:52:01] <jancoow> ^
  429. [2016 02 25 09:52:02] <t3chguy> as jancoow recommended to the person earlier
  430. [2016 02 25 09:52:34] <t3chguy> anyone know of any sleek ways to program ESP8266 style boards without soldering, via pogo pin-esque methods?
  431. [2016 02 25 09:52:56] <Znurf> How it just sais "screen is terminating" if i try to run it again :p
  432. [2016 02 25 09:53:09] <pksato> PCatinean: you also buy resistors?
  433. [2016 02 25 09:53:28] <PCatinean> pksato, no I did not, just wires and leds
  434. [2016 02 25 09:53:41] <PCatinean> What do resistors do? I see tutorials that have condensers
  435. [2016 02 25 09:53:47] <t3chguy> they limit current
  436. [2016 02 25 09:53:51] <t3chguy> by adding resistance
  437. [2016 02 25 09:54:03] <t3chguy> V = IR (Voltage is equal to Current multiplied by Resistance)
  438. [2016 02 25 09:54:28] <t3chguy> rearrange that to I = V/R, showing that to lower the current, add some resistance via means of a resistor
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  440. [2016 02 25 09:54:55] <PCatinean> But the raspberry pi 2 has a maximum voltage of 3.3 and the leds can take up to 6, wouldn't they be dim at the very best?
  441. [2016 02 25 09:54:59] <pksato> PCatinean: I recomend some quick basic electronic class. :) search for ohms law
  442. [2016 02 25 09:55:27] <PCatinean> I looked that one up on youtube and indeed I understood that when the voltage is too high it limits the voltage from the source by ohm's law
  443. [2016 02 25 09:55:29] <t3chguy> PCatinean: well it depends on the LEDs you have, but they could try and pull too much current damaging the Pi
  444. [2016 02 25 09:55:47] <PCatinean> damaging it? ouch, how so? :O
  445. [2016 02 25 09:55:51] <pksato> damange pi and led.
  446. [2016 02 25 09:55:53] <jancoow> ali1234: can't get the sniffer to work
  447. [2016 02 25 09:55:56] <t3chguy> current creates heat
  448. [2016 02 25 09:55:58] <jancoow> installed the pigpio now
  449. [2016 02 25 09:56:00] <jancoow> started the deamon
  450. [2016 02 25 09:56:06] <t3chguy> so the traces inside the SoC could heat up if you pull too much current from them
  451. [2016 02 25 09:56:08] <t3chguy> eventually burning out
  452. [2016 02 25 09:56:10] <jancoow> but programm hangs, nothing happends
  453. [2016 02 25 09:56:13] <PCatinean> If I make a picture of all my parts will that help out?
  454. [2016 02 25 09:56:16] <t3chguy> no
  455. [2016 02 25 09:56:21] <t3chguy> a datasheet of the LEDs though will
  456. [2016 02 25 09:57:13] <PCatinean> No datasheet provided, damn
  457. [2016 02 25 09:57:14] <PCatinean> http://www.robofun.ro/image/cache/data/produse/00000002/led-albastru-500x500.JPG
  458. [2016 02 25 09:57:37] <pksato> resistors are very cheap.
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  460. [2016 02 25 09:58:57] <PCatinean> yeah I just noticed, incredibly cheap.I asked the guys over there if I needed some and they said "Naah it will most likely hardly blink"
  461. [2016 02 25 09:59:02] <PCatinean> Maybe they have no idea what they are talking about
  462. [2016 02 25 09:59:03] <pksato> If possible, buy a kit with thousands leaded resistors (not smd).
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  464. [2016 02 25 09:59:13] <t3chguy> thats an LED Module rather than an LED on its own
  465. [2016 02 25 09:59:19] <t3chguy> are there any components on the back?
  466. [2016 02 25 09:59:23] <jancoow> i bought 1000 resistors from china for 6 euro's or something
  467. [2016 02 25 09:59:23] <t3chguy> or hidden under the LED?
  468. [2016 02 25 09:59:24] <jancoow> always handy
  469. [2016 02 25 09:59:51] <pksato> If buy spare resistor, get these values 220, 330, 470, 1k, 4k7, 10k.
  470. [2016 02 25 10:00:01] <PCatinean> Wait let me take a pic
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  472. [2016 02 25 10:00:04] <PCatinean> It's not a simple led indeed
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  475. [2016 02 25 10:02:20] <jancoow> ali1234: are you there? Do you have time to help for a second?
  476. [2016 02 25 10:02:24] <PCatinean> http://imgur.com/TLw3e8F
  477. [2016 02 25 10:02:38] <PCatinean> there's the number 1001 very small on it
  478. [2016 02 25 10:02:57] <PCatinean> and it has 3 entry points GND (Ground I assume) +- IN
  479. [2016 02 25 10:03:02] <PCatinean> where the wires can go in
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  483. [2016 02 25 10:06:24] <PCatinean> I wonder if it's safe to try
  484. [2016 02 25 10:08:29] <PCatinean> any thoughts t3chguy ?
  485. [2016 02 25 10:08:48] <t3chguy> thats a resistor
  486. [2016 02 25 10:09:00] <t3chguy> although 3 connections makes little sense
  487. [2016 02 25 10:09:13] <t3chguy> any chance of a clearer photo so I can see the traces?
  488. [2016 02 25 10:09:16] <jancoow> measure it with your multimeter
  489. [2016 02 25 10:09:23] <t3chguy> 1001 should be 1k
  490. [2016 02 25 10:09:35] <t3chguy> off the top of my head anyway
  491. [2016 02 25 10:09:57] -*- t3chguy checked and was right
  492. [2016 02 25 10:10:05] <t3chguy> 1001 is same as 102 both of which are 1k
  493. [2016 02 25 10:10:30] <t3chguy> an LED at 3.3v with a 1k resistor will get very little current, its unlikely to even light up
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  495. [2016 02 25 10:12:35] <Znurf> Well i dont understand how to get the data from my module with the pie :( too bad arduinos are not suitable for a webserver :(
  496. [2016 02 25 10:13:25] <t3chguy> Znurf: they're not? Weird, should tell my Arduino Web Servers that
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  498. [2016 02 25 10:13:50] <Znurf> t3chguy well i guess you have a mega then? :P Not like a mini
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  500. [2016 02 25 10:14:10] <t3chguy> Nano
  501. [2016 02 25 10:14:16] <Znurf> really
  502. [2016 02 25 10:14:18] <t3chguy> yes
  503. [2016 02 25 10:14:23] <Znurf> nice
  504. [2016 02 25 10:14:31] <Znurf> Maybe that is easier for me :P
  505. [2016 02 25 10:14:53] <t3chguy> Znurf: http://goo.gl/lHkd2p
  506. [2016 02 25 10:15:04] <jancoow> setting up a webserver on a arduino isn't easier lol
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  508. [2016 02 25 10:16:04] <Znurf> perhaps not, but i can get the RF modules to work on arduino :P And it might be way easier to find some help / guide to how to make the webserver work on an arduino than finding a guide for how to read your RF modules recieved data with the pie, it seems so far atleast :P
  509. [2016 02 25 10:17:17] <PCatinean> t3chguy, how shoud I do it? Close basically?
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  512. [2016 02 25 10:19:17] <t3chguy> PCatinean: what?
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  515. [2016 02 25 10:20:14] <Znurf> It is frustrating when you feel too stupid to do something :P im tired
  516. [2016 02 25 10:20:27] <jancoow> ugh, that i2c sniffer is not working properly
  517. [2016 02 25 10:20:47] <PCatinean> t3chguy, can't get any clearer than that sorry :( http://imgur.com/a/X3mil
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  519. [2016 02 25 10:21:07] <A124> Znurf I would use duino to get the RF and connect it to RPI
  520. [2016 02 25 10:21:10] <t3chguy> yeah I can't make out the tracks on that
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  522. [2016 02 25 10:21:20] <PCatinean> t3chguy, what should I look for?
  523. [2016 02 25 10:21:27] <t3chguy> what each pin connects to
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  525. [2016 02 25 10:21:44] <A124> Znurf Not sure how great is RP at reading stuff, because it basically needs to read nonstop, which means interrupts.
  526. [2016 02 25 10:21:45] <Znurf> A124 yes that is looking more and more like the solution i will have to go with :)
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  528. [2016 02 25 10:22:01] <A124> Not have to go, but more optimal definitelly.
  529. [2016 02 25 10:22:07] <PCatinean> Each pin just goes into it's respective solder, then there are two more under the led
  530. [2016 02 25 10:22:27] <Znurf> Well have to if i factor in my skills with unix and raspberry pis compared to arduinos :P
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  533. [2016 02 25 10:22:40] <PCatinean> There is not much more detail than in the picture where i'm holding it really
  534. [2016 02 25 10:22:43] <JakeSays> jancoow: its not?
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  536. [2016 02 25 10:23:00] <Znurf> Not saying im good with arduinos A124, im saying im Terrible with the other ;P
  537. [2016 02 25 10:23:18] <A124> I can help you with that when I am gere and not busy.
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  539. [2016 02 25 10:23:38] <A124> I do not know specifics of RPI IO, but know both Arduino and Linux
  540. [2016 02 25 10:23:40] <PCatinean> t3chguy, you think I should give it a try and try to light them up?
  541. [2016 02 25 10:23:55] <PCatinean> Just not sure where to stick each wire and wether I should use the breadboard or not
  542. [2016 02 25 10:23:58] <t3chguy> its unlikely to light up
  543. [2016 02 25 10:24:02] <t3chguy> due to the size of that resistor
  544. [2016 02 25 10:24:04] <PCatinean> t3chguy, how so?
  545. [2016 02 25 10:24:06] <t3chguy> and low voltage on rpi pins
  546. [2016 02 25 10:24:19] <PCatinean> So there is not chance of hurting the raspberry then right?
  547. [2016 02 25 10:24:24] <Znurf> A124 well if you have the time for it sometime then thatd be very nice
  548. [2016 02 25 10:24:27] <PCatinean> At worst, they will barely light up
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  550. [2016 02 25 10:24:33] <t3chguy> unless you short it out, no
  551. [2016 02 25 10:24:43] <PCatinean> How could I short it out though?
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  553. [2016 02 25 10:26:25] <PCatinean> t3chguy, so I should stick one wire at the top most right (2nd led counting from left to right and up to down) which is the 5v and the 6th pin on the ground right?
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  555. [2016 02 25 10:27:01] <t3chguy> LEDs don't use 3 pins, so two of those pins could be connected or something, putting vdd and gnd across a short will short out the pi
  556. [2016 02 25 10:27:06] <jancoow> JakeSays: it defenitly receive something, but the only thing i see in the terminal are [ ]
  557. [2016 02 25 10:27:08] <jancoow> without bits
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  560. [2016 02 25 10:27:42] <PCatinean> brb
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  562. [2016 02 25 10:27:53] <jancoow> and ali1234 doesn't respond ;p
  563. [2016 02 25 10:27:58] <ali1234> what
  564. [2016 02 25 10:28:04] <jancoow> oh hi
  565. [2016 02 25 10:28:20] <jancoow> i've some struggles with the pigpio i2c sniffer
  566. [2016 02 25 10:28:26] <ali1234> okay such as?
  567. [2016 02 25 10:28:32] <jancoow> i only see [] when i turn the volume knob for example
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  569. [2016 02 25 10:28:43] <jancoow> so it's receiving something but i only see [] without bits
  570. [2016 02 25 10:28:44] <ali1234> well there can be many reasons for that
  571. [2016 02 25 10:28:48] <ali1234> use piscope to see the waveform
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  573. [2016 02 25 10:28:58] <ali1234> you can run piscope and the i2c sniffer at the same time
  574. [2016 02 25 10:29:06] <JakeSays> jancoow: are you using the daemon?
  575. [2016 02 25 10:29:06] <ali1234> because they both talk to the daemon
  576. [2016 02 25 10:29:15] <jancoow> yes i'm using the daemon
  577. [2016 02 25 10:29:22] <JakeSays> i'm not
  578. [2016 02 25 10:29:23] <jancoow> piscope is a terminal program?
  579. [2016 02 25 10:29:24] <ali1234> you can also run piscope on a different computer because it talks to the daemon over the network
  580. [2016 02 25 10:29:34] <jancoow> cool nice
  581. [2016 02 25 10:29:40] <A124> Znurf IDK when you want. Btw, what radio modules are those? And you have ethernet shield? HTTP server to just get the data is simple. But you can just make UDP server if over LAN, or TCP raw connection.
  582. [2016 02 25 10:29:42] <JakeSays> jancoow: piscope is gtk based i think
  583. [2016 02 25 10:30:04] <JakeSays> ali1234: what was the other one you mentioned? began with an s
  584. [2016 02 25 10:30:10] <ali1234> sigrok
  585. [2016 02 25 10:30:15] <JakeSays> ah right
  586. [2016 02 25 10:30:17] <ali1234> it needs special hardware though
  587. [2016 02 25 10:30:26] <ali1234> the hardware only costs like $10 though and is well worth it
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  589. [2016 02 25 10:30:55] <ali1234> i highly recommend getting it if you are doing any kind of digital electronics
  590. [2016 02 25 10:31:39] <JakeSays> i'm kind of interested in libsigrok
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  592. [2016 02 25 10:31:49] <jancoow> holyshit
  593. [2016 02 25 10:31:52] <jancoow> this is quite cool
  594. [2016 02 25 10:32:16] <JakeSays> jancoow: what is?
  595. [2016 02 25 10:32:20] <jancoow> the piscope ;p
  596. [2016 02 25 10:32:22] <jancoow> it's working
  597. [2016 02 25 10:32:28] <ali1234> piscope is quite buggy/weird to use but it does work
  598. [2016 02 25 10:32:28] <JakeSays> oh?
  599. [2016 02 25 10:32:52] <JakeSays> ali1234: what is the extra hardware for?
  600. [2016 02 25 10:32:57] <jancoow> ali1234: for the i2c sniffing; i connected it to gpio 5 / 6 and i see some activity there
  601. [2016 02 25 10:33:16] <ali1234> JakeSays: sigrok needs hardware to work. it doesn't have a raspberry pi driver
  602. [2016 02 25 10:33:24] <JakeSays> ah ok
  603. [2016 02 25 10:33:39] <Znurf> A124 the radio modules are some cheap transmit and recieve modules (not transievers) i picked up for arduino. I just want to send 2 numbers, 1 number is an ID and 1 number is a switch (0/1) :P My goal was then to have the RPi recieve the numbers, put them in a file and save the file to the webserver, for example "ID 1 KEY 0" "ID 2 KEY 0" and then update the KEY value according to the
  604. [2016 02 25 10:33:39] <Znurf> recieved data :P
  605. [2016 02 25 10:33:41] <ali1234> jancoow: maybe you need to increase the frequency pigpiod runs at
  606. [2016 02 25 10:34:05] <jancoow> that would definitly help
  607. [2016 02 25 10:34:10] <jancoow> i only see big blocks of 1 / 0
  608. [2016 02 25 10:34:27] <jancoow> so start deamon with -b 10000 ?
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  610. [2016 02 25 10:34:36] <ali1234> JakeSays: specifically sigrok hardware normally uses microcontrollers that don't run a full OS. raspberry pi is not well suited to logic analysis because it can't really handle real time
  611. [2016 02 25 10:35:01] <ali1234> jancoow: you will only ever see blocks of 1/0
  612. [2016 02 25 10:35:06] <ali1234> it's digital
  613. [2016 02 25 10:35:17] <JakeSays> makes sense
  614. [2016 02 25 10:35:30] <ali1234> you want -s 1
  615. [2016 02 25 10:35:44] <ali1234> although the default 5 is probably enough
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  617. [2016 02 25 10:36:00] <jancoow> yeah i understand, but what i mean it isn't registiring what happends between it
  618. [2016 02 25 10:36:13] <ali1234> you might need to zoom in or out
  619. [2016 02 25 10:36:31] <jancoow> i did
  620. [2016 02 25 10:36:32] <JakeSays> gpib - lol didnt think that was still used
  621. [2016 02 25 10:36:53] <ali1234> i2c is normally 100khz to 400khz
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  624. [2016 02 25 10:38:03] <jancoow> it's in normal speed i though
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  626. [2016 02 25 10:38:08] <jancoow> so should be 100khz
  627. [2016 02 25 10:38:26] <JakeSays> ali1234: this is interesting: http://tuxbabe.eu/raspalyzer.html
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  629. [2016 02 25 10:38:36] <jancoow> ali1234: now i'm seeing this https://jancokock.me/f/e91e4 lol
  630. [2016 02 25 10:38:40] <jancoow> it's definitly missing samples
  631. [2016 02 25 10:38:55] <ali1234> JakeSays: yeah there's that. it;s bare metal though, so you need to dedicate a pi to it
  632. [2016 02 25 10:39:09] <JakeSays> right
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  635. [2016 02 25 10:39:35] <ali1234> also it sends data over the serial uart not usb
  636. [2016 02 25 10:39:40] <ali1234> so it's pretty slow
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  638. [2016 02 25 10:39:48] <JakeSays> right
  639. [2016 02 25 10:40:16] <JakeSays> i think i have everything necessary to use it
  640. [2016 02 25 10:40:24] <ali1234> now if it ran on a pi zero, enumerated itself on USB as a logic analyzer/serial port/jtagger, that would be totally amazin
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  642. [2016 02 25 10:40:44] <jancoow> that's exactly what i'm doing now
  643. [2016 02 25 10:40:47] <jancoow> lol
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  645. [2016 02 25 10:41:01] <JakeSays> i have a pi and a serial->usb adapter
  646. [2016 02 25 10:41:15] <ali1234> if it was written in videocore assembly so that it didnt get pre-empted that would be even better
  647. [2016 02 25 10:41:29] <JakeSays> is that doable?
  648. [2016 02 25 10:41:36] <ali1234> yes
  649. [2016 02 25 10:41:52] <ali1234> not easy though
  650. [2016 02 25 10:41:58] <JakeSays> oh cool. i wasnt aware that stuff was opened
  651. [2016 02 25 10:42:05] <ali1234> it wasn't
  652. [2016 02 25 10:42:11] <ali1234> people reverse engineered it
  653. [2016 02 25 10:42:17] <JakeSays> ah ok
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  655. [2016 02 25 10:42:52] <jancoow> ali1234: any ideas how i can do this?
  656. [2016 02 25 10:42:59] <jancoow> i'm out of ideas actually
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  658. [2016 02 25 10:43:15] <ali1234> well that's an improvement
  659. [2016 02 25 10:43:22] <ali1234> you know what the [ and ] mean?
  660. [2016 02 25 10:43:32] <jancoow> ali1234: now more https://jancokock.me/f/32be0
  661. [2016 02 25 10:43:35] <jancoow> start and end block
  662. [2016 02 25 10:43:43] <ali1234> you are getting closer
  663. [2016 02 25 10:43:55] <ali1234> can you show screenshot of piscope?
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  665. [2016 02 25 10:45:52] <jancoow> https://jancokock.me/f/0f429
  666. [2016 02 25 10:46:23] <jancoow> so shouldn't a i2c signal look like; what my is learned haha
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  672. [2016 02 25 10:48:41] <jancoow> nice!
  673. [2016 02 25 10:48:51] <jancoow> i didn't st the paramaters right i think
  674. [2016 02 25 10:48:54] <jancoow> sample rate of 2ms
  675. [2016 02 25 10:48:58] <jancoow> https://jancokock.me/f/16fef
  676. [2016 02 25 10:49:25] <jancoow> 1ms even cleaner results :)
  677. [2016 02 25 10:51:03] <jancoow> ali1234: https://jancokock.me/f/acfe9
  678. [2016 02 25 10:51:14] <jancoow> that's something usefull :)
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  680. [2016 02 25 10:53:18] <JakeSays> hmm. maybe i should switch to the daemon
  681. [2016 02 25 10:53:34] <ali1234> jancoow: do you have sda and scl the right way round?
  682. [2016 02 25 10:54:15] <jancoow> the data, [68+77+00+00+00+01+], is valid data, right?
  683. [2016 02 25 10:54:23] <jancoow> they are in the right way round
  684. [2016 02 25 10:54:35] <ali1234> it looks reasonable
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  686. [2016 02 25 10:56:25] <jancoow> oke so, in this example, which channel and register it writes to?
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  688. [2016 02 25 10:57:41] <A124> Znurf If you have ehternet shield you can do that with Arduino too, or ESP8266 or something.
  689. [2016 02 25 10:57:51] <ali1234> jancoow: who knows?
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  693. [2016 02 25 10:58:02] <ali1234> jancoow: you have to figure this out :)
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  695. [2016 02 25 10:58:17] <jancoow> ali1234: yeah ;p i though maybe you know the sequences
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  697. [2016 02 25 10:58:28] <jancoow> this is my first time signal processing a i2c bus :)
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  703. [2016 02 25 11:03:41] <JakeSays> the coding style in pigpio is horrendous
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  707. [2016 02 25 11:04:43] <jancoow> yeah
  708. [2016 02 25 11:05:33] <JakeSays> i have to go through and fix the if statements to stay sane
  709. [2016 02 25 11:05:45] <jancoow> where do you need to do that?
  710. [2016 02 25 11:07:10] <JakeSays> actually its not just if: while (!triggered && (time_time() < due)) time_sleep(0.05);
  711. [2016 02 25 11:07:22] <JakeSays> if (p->prev) {p->prev->next = p->next;}
  712. [2016 02 25 11:07:27] <JakeSays> drives me nuts
  713. [2016 02 25 11:07:27] <sir_galahad_ad> o/
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  719. [2016 02 25 11:08:57] <JakeSays> but the license is excellent
  720. [2016 02 25 11:09:18] <jancoow> ali1234: mm.. could you give me maybe a hint how the buildup of the output is?
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  722. [2016 02 25 11:09:27] <sir_galahad_ad> so is the one that allows me to drive :)
  723. [2016 02 25 11:09:35] <jancoow> the 68 should be the write command ?
  724. [2016 02 25 11:09:43] <JakeSays> sir_galahad_ad: what?
  725. [2016 02 25 11:09:45] <jancoow> and the number after it the register?
  726. [2016 02 25 11:10:03] <sir_galahad_ad> JakeSays: the license
  727. [2016 02 25 11:10:18] <JakeSays> sir_galahad_ad: hah
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  729. [2016 02 25 11:11:18] <ali1234> jancoow: the first byte is the i2c address and the r/w bit, after that the meaning is completely unknown
  730. [2016 02 25 11:11:26] <JakeSays> r# does a decent job of cleaning it up tho
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  738. [2016 02 25 11:14:46] <jancoow> ali1234: yeah exactly, so 0x68 >> 1 because we want to remove the write bit is 0x34, and that is possible because i saw the 0x34 adress on the bus
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  740. [2016 02 25 11:15:23] <JakeSays> jancoow: i think you want to mask off the high bit
  741. [2016 02 25 11:15:49] <ali1234> nope
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  743. [2016 02 25 11:15:54] <ali1234> r/w is the low bit
  744. [2016 02 25 11:16:02] <JakeSays> oh
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  746. [2016 02 25 11:16:08] <jancoow> yeah it's the lowest bit
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  749. [2016 02 25 11:17:41] <jancoow> and then i guess the next bit is the subadress
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  756. [2016 02 25 11:24:06] <RoBo_V> jancoow: what you trying to do, RPi as logic analyzer or something ?
  757. [2016 02 25 11:24:45] <jancoow> RoBo_V: it wasn't the planning (planning was to loan a osciliscoop from school) but yeah, that's what i'm basicly doing now
  758. [2016 02 25 11:25:07] <jancoow> and i'm hacking my speakers
  759. [2016 02 25 11:26:13] <RoBo_V> jancoow: I see, any success with that ?
  760. [2016 02 25 11:26:56] <jancoow> RoBo_V: thanks to ali1234 the logic analyser / osc. works . Now figuring out how the speaker controllers communictate to the amplifier
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  763. [2016 02 25 11:27:35] <RoBo_V> good results upto how much sampling rate ?
  764. [2016 02 25 11:27:39] <PCatinean> Hey guys
  765. [2016 02 25 11:27:43] <PCatinean> t3chguy, still around?
  766. [2016 02 25 11:27:49] <t3chguy> PCatinean: always
  767. [2016 02 25 11:27:52] <t3chguy> unfortunately
  768. [2016 02 25 11:27:57] <PCatinean> haha, how so? :))
  769. [2016 02 25 11:28:12] <jancoow> RoBo_V: i set it to the fastest; 1ms
  770. [2016 02 25 11:28:27] <t3chguy> Self Employed = Easily Distracted
  771. [2016 02 25 11:28:29] <RoBo_V> PCatinean: answer is in his nick xD
  772. [2016 02 25 11:28:51] <PCatinean> haha :)))
  773. [2016 02 25 11:29:15] <PCatinean> Ok so back to the raspberry, I should attempt to connect the wires from the GPIO pins to the led since they have incorporated resistors
  774. [2016 02 25 11:29:26] <PCatinean> Now it's a matter of putting in the proper wires
  775. [2016 02 25 11:29:39] <PCatinean> The LED has GND +- and IN
  776. [2016 02 25 11:29:45] <RoBo_V> t3chguy: I agree with that equality
  777. [2016 02 25 11:29:47] <t3chguy> PCatinean: first test would be direct connect the rails
  778. [2016 02 25 11:29:49] <PCatinean> GND is for ground, and where does the second wire go?
  779. [2016 02 25 11:29:49] <jancoow> god dammit
  780. [2016 02 25 11:29:51] <jancoow> i'm deaf
  781. [2016 02 25 11:29:59] <t3chguy> PCatinean: not knowing the layout of the little PCB, no idea
  782. [2016 02 25 11:30:01] <PCatinean> t3chguy, so connect directly from the gpio to the led
  783. [2016 02 25 11:30:02] <jancoow> and family is awaka
  784. [2016 02 25 11:30:10] <PCatinean> PCB?
  785. [2016 02 25 11:30:13] <jancoow> sudo i2cset -y 1 0x34 0xB8 0x00 0x01 0x9C 0x86 s SET IT TO MAXIMUM VOLUME
  786. [2016 02 25 11:30:17] <t3chguy> PCatinean: printed circuit board
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  788. [2016 02 25 11:30:33] <PCatinean> It's a standard rasppbery pi 2?
  789. [2016 02 25 11:30:34] <t3chguy> PCatinean: just closing the connection manually you have control over it if something doesn't go right (MAGIC SMOKE)
  790. [2016 02 25 11:30:38] <t3chguy> PCatinean: I mean the LED
  791. [2016 02 25 11:30:41] <t3chguy> its sat on a little PCB
  792. [2016 02 25 11:30:50] <t3chguy> the little "Radio Board"
  793. [2016 02 25 11:30:59] <PCatinean> ahhh I see
  794. [2016 02 25 11:31:13] <PCatinean> So there's no way I can proceed (Since I found nothing on the internet about this product)
  795. [2016 02 25 11:31:16] <t3chguy> so connect Ground to Pi
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  797. [2016 02 25 11:31:21] <PCatinean> And the store that sells them does not provide it
  798. [2016 02 25 11:31:27] <t3chguy> then grab another cable, stick it in 3v3, then try it in both pins
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  800. [2016 02 25 11:31:34] <t3chguy> one at a time
  801. [2016 02 25 11:31:39] <t3chguy> if nothing happens in either case
  802. [2016 02 25 11:31:39] <PCatinean> Ok now to find out which are the ground pins on the rpi
  803. [2016 02 25 11:31:42] <t3chguy> you can try 5v
  804. [2016 02 25 11:31:46] <t3chguy> PCatinean: http://pinout.xyz
  805. [2016 02 25 11:31:51] -*- PCatinean looks
  806. [2016 02 25 11:31:52] <t3chguy> (thanks Gadgetoid)
  807. [2016 02 25 11:32:03] <PCatinean> uh what a nice resource
  808. [2016 02 25 11:32:11] <t3chguy> that it is
  809. [2016 02 25 11:32:14] <jancoow> holyshit
  810. [2016 02 25 11:32:17] <t3chguy> it has common module pinouts too
  811. [2016 02 25 11:32:52] <PCatinean> So that is standard for all rpi
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  814. [2016 02 25 11:33:08] <t3chguy> yep
  815. [2016 02 25 11:33:12] <PCatinean> I assume I place my rpi as in the picture with the GPIO pins on the right
  816. [2016 02 25 11:33:13] <t3chguy> older Pis don't have the bottom section
  817. [2016 02 25 11:33:16] <PCatinean> In the vertical position
  818. [2016 02 25 11:33:17] <t3chguy> and only have the top 2x13
  819. [2016 02 25 11:33:22] <t3chguy> Yep, pins top right
  820. [2016 02 25 11:33:31] <PCatinean> so 6 is ground
  821. [2016 02 25 11:33:40] <PCatinean> And I place a black cable in that and in the led where ground is
  822. [2016 02 25 11:33:57] <t3chguy> si
  823. [2016 02 25 11:33:58] <jancoow> i've almost a heart attack
  824. [2016 02 25 11:34:05] <jancoow> that was so freaking load
  825. [2016 02 25 11:34:15] <jancoow> my family is awake
  826. [2016 02 25 11:34:20] <t3chguy> jancoow: what'd you do?
  827. [2016 02 25 11:34:21] <jancoow> the whole house knows that it works.. lol
  828. [2016 02 25 11:34:21] <PCatinean> ok job done
  829. [2016 02 25 11:34:33] <jancoow> the first command that the speakers react on: and it did full volume
  830. [2016 02 25 11:34:34] <PCatinean> Now pick the 3.3V and stick in either of the holes for the LED
  831. [2016 02 25 11:34:36] <t3chguy> jancoow: lol
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  833. [2016 02 25 11:34:39] <t3chguy> PCatinean: si
  834. [2016 02 25 11:34:41] <jancoow> sudo i2cset -y 1 0x34 0xB8 0x00 0x01 0x9C 0x86 s
  835. [2016 02 25 11:34:43] <PCatinean> But I only see 5v power on the schematic
  836. [2016 02 25 11:34:46] -*- PCatinean lost
  837. [2016 02 25 11:34:56] -*- PCatinean habla un poquito de espanol tambien
  838. [2016 02 25 11:34:57] <t3chguy> PCatinean: top left pin
  839. [2016 02 25 11:35:05] <PCatinean> Ah, missed it (blind)
  840. [2016 02 25 11:35:09] <PCatinean> Thought there would be more than one
  841. [2016 02 25 11:35:11] <t3chguy> there's only 2 3v3 pins
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  843. [2016 02 25 11:35:15] <t3chguy> 17 is another oen
  844. [2016 02 25 11:35:18] <t3chguy> s/oen/one
  845. [2016 02 25 11:35:25] <PCatinean> ahh see got it
  846. [2016 02 25 11:35:36] <PCatinean> Ha, I first wired this before and I did it just like that
  847. [2016 02 25 11:35:49] <PCatinean> ok
  848. [2016 02 25 11:35:55] <PCatinean> now fire it up and start a python script?
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  850. [2016 02 25 11:36:06] <t3chguy> PCatinean: the 3v3 pin is constant 3v3
  851. [2016 02 25 11:36:13] <t3chguy> no script can control it
  852. [2016 02 25 11:36:26] <t3chguy> if it doesn't light up in that case then it won't light up from GPIO pins
  853. [2016 02 25 11:36:47] <PCatinean> ah really?
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  855. [2016 02 25 11:36:57] <PCatinean> So I just move the pins around as the RPI is online?
  856. [2016 02 25 11:37:07] <t3chguy> yeah
  857. [2016 02 25 11:37:07] <PCatinean> Arn't I supposed to activate the GPIO pins?
  858. [2016 02 25 11:37:10] <PCatinean> So it sends the signal?
  859. [2016 02 25 11:37:12] <t3chguy> 3v3 is a Power Pin
  860. [2016 02 25 11:37:16] <PCatinean> Ahhh
  861. [2016 02 25 11:37:19] <PCatinean> Constant power ko
  862. [2016 02 25 11:37:21] <t3chguy> yes
  863. [2016 02 25 11:37:39] <PCatinean> OMG it works! :D
  864. [2016 02 25 11:37:42] <PCatinean> it light up!!
  865. [2016 02 25 11:37:44] <t3chguy> woo
  866. [2016 02 25 11:37:45] <PCatinean> yay!!
  867. [2016 02 25 11:37:47] <t3chguy> on which pin?
  868. [2016 02 25 11:37:50] <PCatinean> 3v3
  869. [2016 02 25 11:37:53] <t3chguy> I mean on the LED
  870. [2016 02 25 11:37:56] <t3chguy> which of the 2 other pins
  871. [2016 02 25 11:38:06] <PCatinean> only the top half of the LED is lit
  872. [2016 02 25 11:38:08] <PCatinean> ahh the right one
  873. [2016 02 25 11:38:18] <PCatinean> the one in the middle with +- did nothing
  874. [2016 02 25 11:38:34] <PCatinean> the IN one was the one that did the trick
  875. [2016 02 25 11:38:36] <t3chguy> does it look obscenely bright or normal or dim?
  876. [2016 02 25 11:38:51] <gordonDrogon> do you have a resistor with the LED?
  877. [2016 02 25 11:39:01] <t3chguy> gordonDrogon: the board has a 1k smd resistor
  878. [2016 02 25 11:39:07] <t3chguy> but for some reason the board has 3 pins
  879. [2016 02 25 11:39:10] <PCatinean> gordonDrogon, it seems so
  880. [2016 02 25 11:39:13] <t3chguy> and I couldn't make out the traces on the images
  881. [2016 02 25 11:39:17] <t3chguy> so no idea if the 1k is even in series
  882. [2016 02 25 11:39:23] <gordonDrogon> good oh. maybe I scroll back :)
  883. [2016 02 25 11:39:30] <PCatinean> If you look at the led from the top it seems pretty bright, the the side it's ok and the bottom part is pretty dim
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  886. [2016 02 25 11:39:50] -*- PCatinean does not understand the lingo :-S
  887. [2016 02 25 11:40:02] <PCatinean> I thought I could light it up by a program though :(
  888. [2016 02 25 11:40:10] <PCatinean> Can I connect yet another let to the other 3v3?
  889. [2016 02 25 11:40:13] <PCatinean> while it's on?
  890. [2016 02 25 11:40:22] <gordonDrogon> PCatinean, you don't need a program, there are command-line tools.
  891. [2016 02 25 11:40:29] <t3chguy> such as gpio :P
  892. [2016 02 25 11:40:32] <gordonDrogon> indeed.
  893. [2016 02 25 11:40:44] <t3chguy> PCatinean: you can, this was just a test
  894. [2016 02 25 11:41:01] <PCatinean> Uh gitty! I can't wait to get some sensor soon and light them up when it is activated
  895. [2016 02 25 11:41:02] <t3chguy> move the cable from 3v3 to a pin like 16
  896. [2016 02 25 11:41:05] <PCatinean> Can I place the second led?
  897. [2016 02 25 11:41:07] <t3chguy> http://pinout.xyz/pinout/pin16_gpio23
  898. [2016 02 25 11:41:11] <Zinov> anyone know where I can start looking as to why php pages are blank and Im not getting any errors?
  899. [2016 02 25 11:41:20] <t3chguy> PCatinean: yeah, connect one to 16, one to 18 for example
  900. [2016 02 25 11:41:22] <PCatinean> t3chguy, you think I can try the 5v? Maybe it's brighter?
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  902. [2016 02 25 11:41:44] <t3chguy> PCatinean: the pins are 3v3 so you without something like a transistor you won't be able to run a program to send the LED 5v
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  904. [2016 02 25 11:42:03] <t3chguy> Zinov: enabling debug in php.ini?
  905. [2016 02 25 11:42:16] <PCatinean> I don't understand, why? Isn't it like the 3v3 with constant power?
  906. [2016 02 25 11:42:32] <t3chguy> PCatinean: the 5v pin is yes, but you wanted in the end to control it via software
  907. [2016 02 25 11:42:41] <t3chguy> the SW controlled GPIO is 3v3
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  909. [2016 02 25 11:42:59] <PCatinean> But before I controll it with software
  910. [2016 02 25 11:43:03] <t3chguy> sure
  911. [2016 02 25 11:43:05] <PCatinean> I want to try the 5v see if it's brither
  912. [2016 02 25 11:43:12] <t3chguy> might damage the LED if its higher than it should be
  913. [2016 02 25 11:43:15] <t3chguy> but you *CAN*
  914. [2016 02 25 11:43:16] <PCatinean> I assume it will not explode or burn my rpi? :-s
  915. [2016 02 25 11:43:19] <PCatinean> Only the LED?
  916. [2016 02 25 11:43:23] <PCatinean> I have 4 of them
  917. [2016 02 25 11:43:26] <gordonDrogon> can't find the link to the board you're using - what is it?
  918. [2016 02 25 11:43:27] <t3chguy> Pi should be fine yeah
  919. [2016 02 25 11:43:32] <-- fredp2-away (~fredp@unaffiliated/fredp) has quit
  920. [2016 02 25 11:43:54] <t3chguy> gordonDrogon: http://www.robofun.ro/image/cache/data/produse/00000002/led-albastru-500x500.JPG
  921. [2016 02 25 11:43:59] <PCatinean> gordonDrogon, I can give you my local store but it provides no detail whatsoever: http://www.robofun.ro/index.php?route=product/search&search=led
  922. [2016 02 25 11:44:15] <gordonDrogon> oh right. just an LED!
  923. [2016 02 25 11:44:19] <t3chguy> OHHH
  924. [2016 02 25 11:44:20] <PCatinean> :)))
  925. [2016 02 25 11:44:21] <t3chguy> its a bi-color
  926. [2016 02 25 11:44:29] <PCatinean> t3chguy, can I do this while the RPI is on?
  927. [2016 02 25 11:44:39] <gordonDrogon> it's blue..
  928. [2016 02 25 11:44:42] <t3chguy> PCatinean: well the 5v rail only has power whilst the pi is plugged in
  929. [2016 02 25 11:44:55] <t3chguy> gordonDrogon: I mean the breakout board, its for Bicolor leds
  930. [2016 02 25 11:44:59] <t3chguy> gordonDrogon: http://www.robofun.ro/led-bicolor-brick?search=led
  931. [2016 02 25 11:45:05] <t3chguy> that explains the third pin
  932. [2016 02 25 11:45:14] <PCatinean> ahhh cool :D:D
  933. [2016 02 25 11:45:15] <t3chguy> the pin is probably just NC in the case of the single colour leds
  934. [2016 02 25 11:45:23] <PCatinean> So t3chguy I do this while it is still on yes?
  935. [2016 02 25 11:45:30] <PCatinean> move it to pin 2
  936. [2016 02 25 11:45:32] <PCatinean> and leave the ground in
  937. [2016 02 25 11:45:32] <t3chguy> PCatinean: what, using 5v instead of 3v3? yeah
  938. [2016 02 25 11:45:41] <gordonDrogon> try swapping the wires over.
  939. [2016 02 25 11:45:53] <t3chguy> weird, this image shows a 181 resistor (180ohm)
  940. [2016 02 25 11:45:53] <gordonDrogon> I have some green/red bi-colour LEDs.
  941. [2016 02 25 11:46:04] <t3chguy> http://www.robofun.ro/led-brick-albastru?search=led
  942. [2016 02 25 11:46:12] <PCatinean> looks just as bright to me, so I assume the resistors are strong?
  943. [2016 02 25 11:46:12] <t3chguy> shows it being used at 5v
  944. [2016 02 25 11:46:13] <gordonDrogon> the LEDs I have are 2-pin units.
  945. [2016 02 25 11:46:15] <jancoow> well, i've a headache and a heart attack, enoufh for tonight. Family isn't happy if i'm going to do 1 more test at midnight :P
  946. [2016 02 25 11:46:32] <PCatinean> t3chguy, can I load up more leads on the reamining pins?
  947. [2016 02 25 11:46:40] <t3chguy> Sure
  948. [2016 02 25 11:46:45] <PCatinean> ok let's see :))
  949. [2016 02 25 11:46:50] <PCatinean> It never overloads? or idk
  950. [2016 02 25 11:47:03] <jancoow> ali1234 many MANY thanks for helpng! i really apreciated it. without you i wasn't much further
  951. [2016 02 25 11:48:09] <jancoow> ali1234: funny thing is that the pi and the speaker controller can be connected at the same time to the bus without any problems
  952. [2016 02 25 11:48:28] <t3chguy> Depends on the pi but most have a fair amount of current available on the 5v rail, assuming a decent power supply
  953. [2016 02 25 11:48:37] <PCatinean> It liiveeees!!
  954. [2016 02 25 11:48:42] <t3chguy> Decent for LEDs anyways
  955. [2016 02 25 11:49:21] <t3chguy> jancoow: as I suspected!
  956. [2016 02 25 11:50:03] <PCatinean> t3chguy, it's connected to the socket
  957. [2016 02 25 11:50:04] <t3chguy> The controller is simply not caring about what's happening on the bus while it has nothing to send
  958. [2016 02 25 11:50:08] <PCatinean> So how would I change the color? XD
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  960. [2016 02 25 11:50:17] <t3chguy> PCatinean yours aren't bioclor
  961. [2016 02 25 11:50:21] <t3chguy> Bicolour*
  962. [2016 02 25 11:50:31] <t3chguy> But they offer bicolour ones on a similar pcb
  963. [2016 02 25 11:50:51] <Zinov> Still not getting anything in the php log and in the nginx log I'm getting no errors
  964. [2016 02 25 11:50:59] <jancoow> t3chguy: yeah exactly. I only was afraid that a second master couldn't get the bus low but that not seems to be a problem
  965. [2016 02 25 11:51:04] <gordonDrogon> if it was bicolour, then swap the wires over. if it goes out, then it's not.
  966. [2016 02 25 11:51:13] <t3chguy> Zinov: switch display errors on
  967. [2016 02 25 11:51:16] <ozzzy> cut the blue wire!!!
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  969. [2016 02 25 11:51:57] <t3chguy> jancoow: they have to be able to. Otherwise the slave wouldn't be able to pull it low either
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  971. [2016 02 25 11:52:12] <PCatinean> uhmmmm
  972. [2016 02 25 11:52:13] <PCatinean> oops?
  973. [2016 02 25 11:52:30] <PCatinean> While trying to stick in antoher 5v power I think the other half slipped and touched the pins
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  975. [2016 02 25 11:52:38] <PCatinean> It restarted and asked for recovery mode
  976. [2016 02 25 11:52:50] <t3chguy> You probably shorted it
  977. [2016 02 25 11:52:51] <jancoow> t3chguy: that's true!
  978. [2016 02 25 11:52:58] <PCatinean> Came back about it, it booted now
  979. [2016 02 25 11:53:03] <PCatinean> t3chguy, no permanent damage?
  980. [2016 02 25 11:53:07] <t3chguy> jancoow: glad you got it working though
  981. [2016 02 25 11:53:13] <jancoow> for the acknowledge and read ofcourse
  982. [2016 02 25 11:53:17] <t3chguy> PCatinean: if it was only for moments. No
  983. [2016 02 25 11:53:28] <PCatinean> if it's for longer it dies?
  984. [2016 02 25 11:53:34] <t3chguy> jancoow: yep
  985. [2016 02 25 11:53:39] <PCatinean> hmm should be more carefull not to let the other pins touch
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  987. [2016 02 25 11:53:51] <t3chguy> PCatinean: your power supply might die or the thinnest point in the circuit will
  988. [2016 02 25 11:54:16] <PCatinean> that does not sound good
  989. [2016 02 25 11:54:31] <Zinov> sadly nothing under the logs still, looking at php5-fpm.log and access/error.log
  990. [2016 02 25 11:54:57] <t3chguy> Zinov: check your php syntax using a Web lint tool?
  991. [2016 02 25 11:54:58] <jancoow> t3chguy: also you thanks for the help ofcourse. Learned much today. Never know there was software for the pi for a some kind of osciliscope
  992. [2016 02 25 11:55:15] <Zinov> It might be the parsing of the php for nginx but I am a bit rusty with linux
  993. [2016 02 25 11:55:25] <t3chguy> jancoow: there's a software for almost anything
  994. [2016 02 25 11:56:14] <Zinov> all i'm trying to run right now it a simple: <?php echo '<p>Hello World</p>'; ?>
  995. [2016 02 25 11:56:38] <t3chguy> Zinov: omit the "?>"
  996. [2016 02 25 11:57:07] <jancoow> what's the problem Zinov ?
  997. [2016 02 25 11:57:14] <t3chguy> Don't need a closing tag unless there's something after it
  998. [2016 02 25 11:57:19] <PCatinean> Yay all 4 leds lighting up!!
  999. [2016 02 25 11:57:19] <jancoow> ^
  1000. [2016 02 25 11:57:31] <PCatinean> t3chguy, removing them I assume it doesn't matter in which order (ground or power)
  1001. [2016 02 25 11:57:34] <jancoow> it should be working with a closing tag, but it's indeed not needed
  1002. [2016 02 25 11:57:42] <PCatinean> Should I try this using the breadboard?
  1003. [2016 02 25 11:58:23] <Zinov> ok, i took it out and reloaded the page.
  1004. [2016 02 25 11:58:33] <t3chguy> PCatinean: nope
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  1006. [2016 02 25 11:58:55] <t3chguy> jancoow: sometimes a blank line after the closing tag breaks everything
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  1008. [2016 02 25 11:59:18] <t3chguy> PCatinean: the nope was at order, which doesn't matter
  1009. [2016 02 25 11:59:27] <PCatinean> ok all led's now removed
  1010. [2016 02 25 11:59:42] <PCatinean> Now the next step is to connect it to what I see is called a broadcom pin?
  1011. [2016 02 25 11:59:55] <PCatinean> Which can be activated by rpi programatically
  1012. [2016 02 25 11:59:57] <t3chguy> Yeah
  1013. [2016 02 25 12:00:04] <PCatinean> So a Ground + a BCM port
  1014. [2016 02 25 12:00:10] <t3chguy> Yeah
  1015. [2016 02 25 12:00:12] <PCatinean> Does it matter which one? TXD RXD PWM0
  1016. [2016 02 25 12:00:12] <PCatinean> ?
  1017. [2016 02 25 12:00:23] <PCatinean> CE0 CE1 not sure what those mean
  1018. [2016 02 25 12:00:23] <t3chguy> Well some are used by default
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  1020. [2016 02 25 12:00:39] <t3chguy> Such as the first 3 you mentioned
  1021. [2016 02 25 12:00:46] <t3chguy> Ce pins should be fine
  1022. [2016 02 25 12:01:07] <PCatinean> 24 adn 25 I see
  1023. [2016 02 25 12:01:13] <PCatinean> What's the difference between them?
  1024. [2016 02 25 12:01:19] <t3chguy> 16,18 are free too
  1025. [2016 02 25 12:01:27] <t3chguy> Well some are simply used
  1026. [2016 02 25 12:01:37] <t3chguy> Txd, rxd run UARR
  1027. [2016 02 25 12:01:40] <t3chguy> Uart*
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  1030. [2016 02 25 12:01:47] <t3chguy> Pwm0 runs audio
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  1033. [2016 02 25 12:02:14] <t3chguy> Scl sda run i2c
  1034. [2016 02 25 12:02:25] <t3chguy> Ce pins are for spi but by default unused
  1035. [2016 02 25 12:02:41] <t3chguy> Miso mosi clk are spi also
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  1037. [2016 02 25 12:03:21] <PCatinean> Wtf I shorted it again, just by placing in a ground and maybe touching the gpio pins with my hand??
  1038. [2016 02 25 12:03:32] <PCatinean> Should I always do this while RPI is off?
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  1040. [2016 02 25 12:05:10] <[Saint]> Yes. Absolutely.
  1041. [2016 02 25 12:05:54] <[Saint]> If you can't keep your hands away from the business end, definitely.
  1042. [2016 02 25 12:06:04] <PCatinean> Ok didn't know that
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  1044. [2016 02 25 12:06:15] <PCatinean> Ok no ground on pin 14 and power on 16
  1045. [2016 02 25 12:06:18] <PCatinean> powering it on
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  1048. [2016 02 25 12:07:52] <PCatinean> Now to power on the pin
  1049. [2016 02 25 12:08:03] <jancoow> good night everyone and will speak to you later! :)
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  1052. [2016 02 25 12:10:21] <t3chguy> PCatinean: gpio write 4 1
  1053. [2016 02 25 12:10:27] <t3chguy> try that in a shell
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  1055. [2016 02 25 12:11:18] <PCatinean> am I not using pin 16 on BCM 23? why 4 1?
  1056. [2016 02 25 12:12:16] <PCatinean> nothing happens
  1057. [2016 02 25 12:13:23] <t3chguy> 4 is the WiringPi pin number
  1058. [2016 02 25 12:13:39] <t3chguy> 1 is "ON"
  1059. [2016 02 25 12:13:44] <t3chguy> PCatinean: http://pinout.xyz/pinout/pin16_gpio23
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  1061. [2016 02 25 12:13:51] <t3chguy> shows that pin16 (BCM 23) is WiringPi pin 4
  1062. [2016 02 25 12:14:28] <t3chguy> try
  1063. [2016 02 25 12:14:38] <t3chguy> gpio mode 4 out; gpio write 4 1
  1064. [2016 02 25 12:14:42] <PCatinean> I did, hmm not working
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  1066. [2016 02 25 12:15:15] <PCatinean> yayyy
  1067. [2016 02 25 12:15:18] <PCatinean> It light up!
  1068. [2016 02 25 12:15:18] <PCatinean> :D
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  1070. [2016 02 25 12:15:31] <t3chguy> change the 1 to a 0 to turn it off
  1071. [2016 02 25 12:15:33] <PCatinean> Awesome!
  1072. [2016 02 25 12:15:44] <PCatinean> Yeah, at least that I don't suck at.I'm a python programmer
  1073. [2016 02 25 12:15:49] <t3chguy> you can also change brightness
  1074. [2016 02 25 12:15:56] <PCatinean> really? :O
  1075. [2016 02 25 12:15:58] <PCatinean> how in the hell?
  1076. [2016 02 25 12:16:10] <t3chguy> gpio mode 4 pwm; gpio pwm 4 512
  1077. [2016 02 25 12:16:20] <t3chguy> changing 512 in the range 0-1023 for brightness
  1078. [2016 02 25 12:16:44] <t3chguy> gordonDrogon: feel free to step in if I'm misunderstanding your docs somewhere, not used gpio all that much
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  1080. [2016 02 25 12:17:46] <t3chguy> PCatinean: any success?
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  1085. [2016 02 25 12:18:59] <PCatinean> t3chguy, wait I was trying to do a python script first
  1086. [2016 02 25 12:19:06] <PCatinean> how do I clear the gpio?
  1087. [2016 02 25 12:19:13] <PCatinean> Think it's still being used by the shell
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  1090. [2016 02 25 12:20:02] <t3chguy> don't think gpio "locks" the gpio
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  1092. [2016 02 25 12:21:35] <[Saint]> Nope, it doesn't. It's either gonna be high, or low, and if you expect to start with a known state you have to set that state explicitly if you want things to work as expected.
  1093. [2016 02 25 12:22:08] <PCatinean> t3chguy, it seems to not have any effect
  1094. [2016 02 25 12:22:13] <PCatinean> i even used 12 in pwm
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  1096. [2016 02 25 12:22:51] <Zinov> thank you all for your help, turns out I had an issue with www.conf and nginix config
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  1098. [2016 02 25 12:23:33] <PCatinean> I would always use something easy like Flask or Werkzeug for minimalistic and simple interfaces
  1099. [2016 02 25 12:23:41] <PCatinean> So little overhead imo
  1100. [2016 02 25 12:23:49] <PCatinean> thought nginx is way better than apache
  1101. [2016 02 25 12:24:02] <t3chguy> Nginx is better than Apache
  1102. [2016 02 25 12:24:04] <PCatinean> I see a lot of online tutorials of people hosting a simple on/off button using apache web server.I think it's nosense for that scale
  1103. [2016 02 25 12:24:15] <PCatinean> Nginx is indeed much better, lightweight, just the thing
  1104. [2016 02 25 12:24:27] <PCatinean> Though flask/werkzeug are even lighther imo
  1105. [2016 02 25 12:24:33] <PCatinean> Especially for these kind of simple projects
  1106. [2016 02 25 12:24:42] <PCatinean> t3chguy, it seems that does nothing, maybe I'm doing it wrong or?
  1107. [2016 02 25 12:24:52] <Zinov> i'm just needing something to send iR commands and read temps for now
  1108. [2016 02 25 12:24:53] <t3chguy> PCatinean: I've no idea, best asking gordonDrogon
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  1111. [2016 02 25 12:25:23] <PCatinean> t3chguy, are there any ir transmittors compatible with RPI?
  1112. [2016 02 25 12:25:28] <PCatinean> So I can open the tv and whatnot?
  1113. [2016 02 25 12:25:38] <t3chguy> PCatinean: erm, any IR LED
  1114. [2016 02 25 12:25:56] <t3chguy> you'll either need a transistor or resistor or both depending on the specs of the IR Tx
  1115. [2016 02 25 12:25:57] <PCatinean> I asked at the shop and they said they had compatible only with Arduino
  1116. [2016 02 25 12:26:10] <[Saint]> hahaha
  1117. [2016 02 25 12:26:21] <PCatinean> http://www.robofun.ro/led-telecomanda-infrarosu?search=infrarosu
  1118. [2016 02 25 12:26:22] <methuzla> timing requirements of ir pulse are the issue with pi
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  1120. [2016 02 25 12:26:37] <PCatinean> I guess it's the same principle
  1121. [2016 02 25 12:26:58] <methuzla> arduino doesn't have a full linux os to get in the way
  1122. [2016 02 25 12:27:16] <PCatinean> methuzla, what are those that you speak of?
  1123. [2016 02 25 12:27:19] <PCatinean> timing requirements?
  1124. [2016 02 25 12:27:30] <t3chguy> PCatinean: IR Transmissions require very strict timing
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  1126. [2016 02 25 12:27:36] <t3chguy> a Linux OS is not real time
  1127. [2016 02 25 12:27:41] <methuzla> how ir remotes work, basically just turn ir led on/off
  1128. [2016 02 25 12:27:42] <t3chguy> so often messes up such things
  1129. [2016 02 25 12:27:55] <PCatinean> methuzla, ahhh just like binary with lights?
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  1131. [2016 02 25 12:27:59] <methuzla> but with very tight timing requirements on the on/off sequence
  1132. [2016 02 25 12:28:08] <PCatinean> morse code more or less
  1133. [2016 02 25 12:28:22] <methuzla> there's a library out there somewhere for doing this on a pi though
  1134. [2016 02 25 12:28:33] <t3chguy> best getting an IR thing with UART on it though
  1135. [2016 02 25 12:28:33] <methuzla> LIRC ?
  1136. [2016 02 25 12:28:40] <exonormal> how about Obama code?
  1137. [2016 02 25 12:28:57] <PCatinean> I also have an Arduino but I want to start with RPI and i'm good with python
  1138. [2016 02 25 12:29:07] <B0g4r7> I user LIRC back in the day (RX only). It worked fine for me.
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  1141. [2016 02 25 12:29:42] <t3chguy> PCatinean: http://goo.gl/kpNO86
  1142. [2016 02 25 12:29:49] <t3chguy> that uses UART to both send and receive IR
  1143. [2016 02 25 12:30:25] <PCatinean> t3chguy, how do I kill all GPIO pins?
  1144. [2016 02 25 12:30:33] <t3chguy> PCatinean: kill..?
  1145. [2016 02 25 12:30:36] <B0g4r7> As I understand it, it's possible to use a single LED to both transmit and receive optical signals.
  1146. [2016 02 25 12:30:45] <PCatinean> As in close all, stop all
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  1148. [2016 02 25 12:31:00] <t3chguy> erm
  1149. [2016 02 25 12:31:04] <t3chguy> they're not running to be stopped?
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  1151. [2016 02 25 12:31:18] <PCatinean> Decoder Encoder TRansmitter and receiver with a wireless module?
  1152. [2016 02 25 12:31:19] <t3chguy> you could try "gpio unexportall"
  1153. [2016 02 25 12:31:26] <PCatinean> for 1.90 pounds? are you kidding me? :)))
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  1155. [2016 02 25 12:31:50] <t3chguy> PCatinean: I have two of those, basically they receive IR, decode it and send it via UART, also listen on UART, encode and send over IR
  1156. [2016 02 25 12:32:04] <PCatinean> working with RPI?
  1157. [2016 02 25 12:32:11] <t3chguy> works with anything that has UART
  1158. [2016 02 25 12:32:15] <t3chguy> including the RPi.
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  1161. [2016 02 25 12:32:22] <PCatinean> I have to readup on UART what is it
  1162. [2016 02 25 12:32:31] <t3chguy> Serial communication
  1163. [2016 02 25 12:32:59] <PCatinean> Also you guys wouldn't know why the touchpad on the wireless keyboard I bought is moving the mouse really slow across the screen with a significant lag behind it
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  1165. [2016 02 25 12:33:57] <methuzla> PCatinean: https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?f=28&t=84999
  1166. [2016 02 25 12:34:13] <PCatinean> Dude you guys have like ALL the answers :D
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  1172. [2016 02 25 12:38:46] <PCatinean> works like a charm thank you methuzla :D
  1173. [2016 02 25 12:41:35] <PCatinean> Last thing before I go to sleep
  1174. [2016 02 25 12:41:48] <PCatinean> I want to make a python script start that up, been looking at some tutorials, no luck yet
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  1176. [2016 02 25 12:42:21] <methuzla> start what up?
  1177. [2016 02 25 12:42:30] <PCatinean> the LED
  1178. [2016 02 25 12:42:38] <PCatinean> It worked using t3chguy command lines
  1179. [2016 02 25 12:42:42] <PCatinean> But not via python
  1180. [2016 02 25 12:42:55] <methuzla> you mean turn it on/off?
  1181. [2016 02 25 12:43:10] <PCatinean> gpio mode 4 out; gpio write 4 1
  1182. [2016 02 25 12:43:12] <PCatinean> yes
  1183. [2016 02 25 12:43:21] <PCatinean> this works thought my python script not so much
  1184. [2016 02 25 12:43:34] <methuzla> use RPi.GPIO
  1185. [2016 02 25 12:44:03] <PCatinean> http://hastebin.com/mofetuqere.avrasm
  1186. [2016 02 25 12:44:18] <B0g4r7> I need to learn to drive an LED with a Pi myself. So far I've been using this "USB RGB LED" device, which works great, but it's pricey.
  1187. [2016 02 25 12:44:28] <sir_galahad_ad> PCatinean: are you using correct scheme for pin numbering?
  1188. [2016 02 25 12:44:44] <PCatinean> sir_galahad_ad, well the above cli command worked
  1189. [2016 02 25 12:44:49] <PCatinean> so I guess it's gpio pin 4
  1190. [2016 02 25 12:44:57] <PCatinean> Since it turned it on
  1191. [2016 02 25 12:45:13] <methuzla> it's a pin number issue
  1192. [2016 02 25 12:45:24] <methuzla> or, pin number scheme
  1193. [2016 02 25 12:45:31] <sir_galahad_ad> PCatinean: there are 3 different numbering schemes
  1194. [2016 02 25 12:45:37] <PCatinean> so in the cli it works but the python no?
  1195. [2016 02 25 12:45:37] <methuzla> at least
  1196. [2016 02 25 12:45:45] <B0g4r7> When driving things with the GPIOs, I'm not supposed to exceed 50mA total for all the driven things, correct?
  1197. [2016 02 25 12:45:51] <sir_galahad_ad> PCatinean: is your program using the same one as the cli?
  1198. [2016 02 25 12:46:06] <PCatinean> I guess: gpio mode 4 out; gpio write 4 1
  1199. [2016 02 25 12:46:08] <methuzla> gpio has its own scheme
  1200. [2016 02 25 12:46:12] <PCatinean> and using 4 as well
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  1202. [2016 02 25 12:46:33] <methuzla> PCatinean where is the pin physically on the pi?
  1203. [2016 02 25 12:46:43] <PCatinean> methuzla, nr 16
  1204. [2016 02 25 12:46:51] <sir_galahad_ad> yes but the default for RPi.GPIO may not be the same as the command line
  1205. [2016 02 25 12:46:58] <methuzla> it's not
  1206. [2016 02 25 12:47:22] <PCatinean> hmm, strange
  1207. [2016 02 25 12:47:27] <methuzla> change 4 to 23
  1208. [2016 02 25 12:47:34] <sir_galahad_ad> methuzla: i know it's not (by default)
  1209. [2016 02 25 12:47:34] <PCatinean> ok sure
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  1211. [2016 02 25 12:48:08] <PCatinean> Holy crap it worked! :D
  1212. [2016 02 25 12:48:10] <PCatinean> How come?
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  1214. [2016 02 25 12:48:59] <methuzla> that's the pin
  1215. [2016 02 25 12:49:24] <PCatinean> Physical pin 16, BCM pin 23, Wiring PI pin 4
  1216. [2016 02 25 12:49:33] <PCatinean> I got the first, not sure about the others
  1217. [2016 02 25 12:49:48] <methuzla> that's correct
  1218. [2016 02 25 12:50:16] <methuzla> gpio is wiringpi, and uses its own scheme by default
  1219. [2016 02 25 12:50:33] <Sonny_Jim> Yeah it's weird
  1220. [2016 02 25 12:50:36] <Sonny_Jim> Good though
  1221. [2016 02 25 12:51:49] <methuzla> with gpio, you can use the other schemes with command line options (-g = BCM, -1 = physical)
  1222. [2016 02 25 12:52:46] <methuzla> ex: gpio -g mode 23 out; gpio -g write 23 1
  1223. [2016 02 25 12:53:25] <methuzla> and i guess: gpio -1 mode 16 out; gpio -1 write 16 1
  1224. [2016 02 25 12:53:56] -*- sir_galahad_ad high fivs methuzla
  1225. [2016 02 25 12:54:15] <methuzla> this sight shows all three schemes: https://pinout.xyz/
  1226. [2016 02 25 12:54:47] <methuzla> hover mouse over pin for wiringpi numbering scheme
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  1228. [2016 02 25 12:56:47] <PCatinean> Ah I see
  1229. [2016 02 25 12:56:55] <sir_galahad_ad> PCatinean: i believe there is also a RPi.GPIO setting to choose which scheme you want to use
  1230. [2016 02 25 12:56:57] <PCatinean> someone also mentioned intensity as well
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  1232. [2016 02 25 12:57:08] <PCatinean> Yeah I did it in the py file
  1233. [2016 02 25 12:57:13] <PCatinean> and set BCM :)))
  1234. [2016 02 25 12:57:15] <PCatinean> What a shocker....
  1235. [2016 02 25 12:57:35] -*- sir_galahad_ad reaches baaaaaack...
  1236. [2016 02 25 12:58:43] <PCatinean> hahaha :))
  1237. [2016 02 25 12:58:56] <PCatinean> I imagine you with your feet kicked up on the desk and hands behind head
  1238. [2016 02 25 12:59:34] <PCatinean> Yay! I made it go flashy flashy!!
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  1241. [2016 02 25 13:00:10] <exonormal> lol, congrats
  1242. [2016 02 25 13:01:10] <methuzla> you have achieved new skill: "blink"
  1243. [2016 02 25 13:01:15] <methuzla> go left or right?
  1244. [2016 02 25 13:01:20] <PCatinean> Achievement unlocked!
  1245. [2016 02 25 13:01:21] <PCatinean> haha
  1246. [2016 02 25 13:01:22] <PCatinean> XD
  1247. [2016 02 25 13:01:26] -*- PCatinean giggles
  1248. [2016 02 25 13:01:44] <PCatinean> Now the next step is to do this on a breadboard (not sure how different it will be) and to use sensor that give input
  1249. [2016 02 25 13:01:50] <PCatinean> and do some output with the LED's
  1250. [2016 02 25 13:02:08] <PCatinean> But fuckin' A I did it.This is a marvelous gadget!
  1251. [2016 02 25 13:02:54] <sir_galahad_ad> :D
  1252. [2016 02 25 13:03:12] <sir_galahad_ad> PCatinean: language though, this is supposed to be a 'family' channel
  1253. [2016 02 25 13:03:22] <PCatinean> ouch sorry
  1254. [2016 02 25 13:03:46] <PCatinean> Either way it's amazing that it works and it's controlled by code (God knows how)
  1255. [2016 02 25 13:06:41] <PCatinean> Thanks guys for all the help! Very much appreciate the time and knowledge shared
  1256. [2016 02 25 13:07:05] <PCatinean> Off to bed, see you tomorrow, cheers!
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  1258. [2016 02 25 13:08:12] <exonormal> good night
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  1346. [2016 02 25 15:03:26] <[ill]will> anyone good with php here? trying to make a call to a .c executable that waits for a button press, once the button is pressed it spits out which button number it was. i need the php script to wait for the executable and post the output of the button number to the page
  1347. [2016 02 25 15:03:56] <-- Svardskampe (~Svardskam@185-14-ftth.onsnetstudenten.nl) has quit (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
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  1351. [2016 02 25 15:05:32] <pksato> [ill]will: use popen
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  1353. [2016 02 25 15:09:39] <[ill]will> how do i support a wait in popen so i can collect the fread from th handle
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  1355. [2016 02 25 15:11:15] <pksato> but, web application are asynchronous. Can not wait for some server side event.
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  1357. [2016 02 25 15:12:44] <[ill]will> what can i use to grab the output of the program for use
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  1375. [2016 02 25 15:35:09] <NinjaBanjo> IQTPoo
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  1378. [2016 02 25 15:48:36] <hypermist> so does anyone have the log from the last 9hrs
  1379. [2016 02 25 15:48:37] <hypermist> lol.
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  1381. [2016 02 25 15:48:45] <hypermist> someone pinged me and my scroll back doesnt go back far enough xD
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