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Ross chews out Logica

Jul 16th, 2012
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  1. (4:11:44 PM) integratedInfiltrator: -----
  2. (4:21:39 PM) ventricularPipefitter: integratedInfiltrator
  3. (4:21:46 PM) ventricularPipefitter: Let's see if your ping function works in PM
  4. (4:22:27 PM) ***integratedInfiltrator has not recieved the message (reason: no such user online)
  5. (4:22:28 PM) ***integratedInfiltrator has not recieved the message (reason: no such user online)
  6. (4:31:32 PM) integratedInfiltrator: whatdoyouneed?
  7. (4:31:42 PM) ventricularPipefitter: I need to know more about you.
  8. (4:31:49 PM) ventricularPipefitter: And what you've been doing.
  9. (4:31:55 PM) integratedInfiltrator: okay
  10. (4:32:53 PM) integratedInfiltrator: whatsortsofthingsinspecific?
  11. (4:33:35 PM) ventricularPipefitter: The hacking.
  12. (4:33:46 PM) integratedInfiltrator: whataboutit?
  13. (4:34:56 PM) ventricularPipefitter: Cogs has told me a few things. Especially regarding this latest debacle with Spenny and her sugarfriend.
  14. (4:35:11 PM) integratedInfiltrator: whathashesaid?
  15. (4:37:00 PM) ventricularPipefitter: Did you hack her account?
  16. (4:37:08 PM) integratedInfiltrator: shedid
  17. (4:37:49 PM) integratedInfiltrator: sheforcedaccesstoherdongleusingthereplayerserverswithgenartspermissionandatgenartsrequest
  18. (4:38:06 PM) integratedInfiltrator: toperformad cerpagainstsugnon
  19. (4:38:18 PM) integratedInfiltrator: shedidnotknowthatsugnonwasusingspenihsdongle
  20. (4:38:57 PM) integratedInfiltrator: shedidnotmeantohurtspenih
  21. (4:39:54 PM) ventricularPipefitter: I'm not here about what you did on accident.
  22. (4:40:01 PM) integratedInfiltrator: andnowshehasblackeyesandlosttherestofherarmtothelickorsomethingthecandy
  23. (4:40:03 PM) integratedInfiltrator: sheissorry
  24. (4:40:47 PM) ventricularPipefitter: I'm here about the part where you can hack the mechanism that enables Replayer server access. How do you do it?
  25. (4:40:54 PM) integratedInfiltrator: sheintentionallyforcedaccesstospenihsdonglebyuseofashadowadminaccountthatshemadefromstudyingGAsuseoftheadminpowers
  26. (4:41:02 PM) integratedInfiltrator: shesawandshecopied
  27. (4:41:18 PM) integratedInfiltrator: shesearchedandshefollowed
  28. (4:41:26 PM) integratedInfiltrator: shepingedandshelistenedforaresponse
  29. (4:41:56 PM) integratedInfiltrator: andwhenshefounditsheoverrodetheblockonabilityuseto c rp
  30. (4:43:58 PM) ventricularPipefitter: Hm-hm. Drop the detailled explanation with all of the ~.ATH scripts and dis.* scripts in my inbox with screenshots, will you?
  31. (4:44:16 PM) integratedInfiltrator: she
  32. (4:44:22 PM) integratedInfiltrator: shecansendthelatterinteraction
  33. (4:44:55 PM) integratedInfiltrator: butshedestroyedthefirstserverwhichheldthememoriesofthefirst
  34. (4:45:08 PM) integratedInfiltrator: andshedoesnothavescreenshots
  35. (4:45:22 PM) integratedInfiltrator: butshecansynthesizethemifyousendherscreenshotsofsomethingsimilar
  36. (4:46:01 PM) ventricularPipefitter: Memories?
  37. (4:46:20 PM) integratedInfiltrator: theserverslogthemtheyarehermemories
  38. (4:46:32 PM) integratedInfiltrator: shehastherealonesonthisserver
  39. (4:46:41 PM) integratedInfiltrator: herlastserver
  40. (4:46:49 PM) integratedInfiltrator: shehaslostalmostallofherprograms
  41. (4:47:03 PM) integratedInfiltrator: theoldonesshecouldnotrememberherselfhowtoreconstruct
  42. (4:47:10 PM) integratedInfiltrator: buttheneweronesshecouldtry
  43. (4:47:29 PM) integratedInfiltrator: theywouldprobablybesomewhatdifferentfromwhatshedidbeforethough
  44. (4:47:36 PM) integratedInfiltrator: atleastinwording
  45. (4:48:35 PM) ventricularPipefitter: You're keeping your frog-forsaken BRAIN out there in the Ring?
  46. (4:48:47 PM) integratedInfiltrator: no
  47. (4:48:52 PM) integratedInfiltrator: theserversarehere
  48. (4:48:55 PM) integratedInfiltrator: withher
  49. (4:48:58 PM) integratedInfiltrator: inherhive
  50. (4:49:03 PM) integratedInfiltrator: ortheserverisatleast
  51. (4:50:43 PM) ventricularPipefitter: What you did once, you can do again. And then may have to do again, and again, and again. Lesson of The Game.
  52. (4:51:00 PM) ventricularPipefitter: What can you do with account ID access?
  53. (4:51:27 PM) integratedInfiltrator: anythingthatcanbedonethroughtherelaychatshecanmanage
  54. (4:51:34 PM) integratedInfiltrator: banningunbanning
  55. (4:51:52 PM) integratedInfiltrator: shehadtoworkhardtodemotespenih
  56. (4:52:50 PM) integratedInfiltrator: itismuchmoredifficulttochangestoredinformationthantodupeasystemintothinkingsheislegitimatelysomeoneelseandiscarryingouttheirwishes
  57. (4:53:20 PM) ventricularPipefitter: You understand why this is a problem, right?
  58. (4:53:27 PM) integratedInfiltrator: um
  59. (4:53:39 PM) integratedInfiltrator: sheisnotanadminbutshecangainaccess
  60. (4:54:13 PM) integratedInfiltrator: sheoverrodeanadminswishesandtooktheiradminpowersaway
  61. (4:54:29 PM) integratedInfiltrator: othersmightbeabletodothesame
  62. (4:55:13 PM) ventricularPipefitter: Yes.
  63. (4:55:26 PM) ventricularPipefitter: Additionally, your lands.
  64. (4:56:08 PM) integratedInfiltrator: herservers
  65. (4:56:10 PM) integratedInfiltrator: herserver
  66. (4:56:14 PM) integratedInfiltrator: isvulnerable
  67. (4:56:19 PM) integratedInfiltrator: shehasbeenkeepingthebeesinside
  68. (4:56:25 PM) integratedInfiltrator: andsheconstantlychecksforichor
  69. (4:56:30 PM) integratedInfiltrator: butitishard
  70. (4:56:39 PM) integratedInfiltrator: shecannoteasilymovethem
  71. (4:57:11 PM) integratedInfiltrator: shehasconsideredattemptingtomovethemtothemagicantbutshewouldlosehertriangulationwitheverythingelse
  72. (4:57:37 PM) ventricularPipefitter: You're one bad day from being an even bigger problem than Ms. Sugarplum.
  73. (4:57:44 PM) ventricularPipefitter: Triangulation?
  74. (4:58:01 PM) integratedInfiltrator: figuringoutwhereeverythingisinrelationtoherself
  75. (4:58:57 PM) integratedInfiltrator: ifshepingsasignalinthewrongdirectionshewillnotgetaresponse
  76. (4:59:08 PM) ventricularPipefitter: Why do you need this?
  77. (4:59:27 PM) integratedInfiltrator: sheneedsittotransmiteffectively
  78. (4:59:45 PM) integratedInfiltrator: shecannotsimplysendsignalseverywhereoffintoparadoxspace
  79. (5:00:06 PM) ventricularPipefitter: Speaking of which...
  80. (5:00:13 PM) integratedInfiltrator: whatiftheotherscansenseitorsomethingelseorifherattempttohackadongleruinsanavigationsystem?
  81. (5:00:22 PM) ventricularPipefitter: Look up the history of the 'Corpseparty.org' forums.
  82. (5:00:33 PM) integratedInfiltrator: she
  83. (5:00:40 PM) integratedInfiltrator: shedoesnotwantto
  84. (5:00:45 PM) ventricularPipefitter: No, kiddo.
  85. (5:00:49 PM) integratedInfiltrator: shehastriedtoavoidcorruptedplaces
  86. (5:00:57 PM) integratedInfiltrator: pleaseifyoucanjustlinkhertosomewheresafe
  87. (5:01:11 PM) ventricularPipefitter: I said look up their history.
  88. (5:01:16 PM) integratedInfiltrator: where
  89. (5:02:16 PM) ventricularPipefitter: It's on our forums. Look for Founder Q & A, where we're using anonymous accounts.
  90. (5:03:12 PM) integratedInfiltrator: shewillhavetodisconnecttolookthemup
  91. (5:05:05 PM) ventricularPipefitter: Disconnect from the chat network? You can't do both simultaneously on your computer?
  92. (5:05:13 PM) ventricularPipefitter: Husktop. Whatever trolls call them.
  93. (5:05:17 PM) integratedInfiltrator: sheisnotusingacomputer
  94. (5:05:21 PM) integratedInfiltrator: sheusesherserverandhermind
  95. (5:05:53 PM) integratedInfiltrator: logicaistransmitterandcomputerandserversarememorystorage
  96. (5:05:58 PM) integratedInfiltrator: herrecollections
  97. (5:06:01 PM) integratedInfiltrator: datastorage
  98. (5:06:58 PM) ventricularPipefitter: Short version:
  99. (5:07:39 PM) ventricularPipefitter: Corpseparty is what happens when server hardware is corruption vulnerable. The name turned out to be more than ironically accurate, in the end.
  100. (5:07:56 PM) ventricularPipefitter: It's still around. As far as I can tell it's only good for people like, ~Glog to use.
  101. (5:08:21 PM) integratedInfiltrator: she
  102. (5:08:26 PM) integratedInfiltrator: shedoesn'twanttothinkaboutthat
  103. (5:09:21 PM) integratedInfiltrator: itiswhysheavoidslettingherbeesoutanymore
  104. (5:10:56 PM) ventricularPipefitter: Logica.
  105. (5:11:08 PM) ventricularPipefitter: If you're going to be the preteen hacker whizkid.
  106. (5:11:15 PM) ventricularPipefitter: You're going to have to be responsible.
  107. (5:11:38 PM) integratedInfiltrator: logicanods
  108. (5:12:44 PM) integratedInfiltrator: shewantstoberesponsible
  109. (5:13:34 PM) ventricularPipefitter: Then you're going to need less corruptible computing solutions.
  110. (5:13:44 PM) integratedInfiltrator: she
  111. (5:13:46 PM) integratedInfiltrator: shedoes
  112. (5:13:47 PM) ventricularPipefitter: For your sake, your sessionmate's, and other replayers.
  113. (5:14:02 PM) integratedInfiltrator: buttheserversareallshehas
  114. (5:14:22 PM) ventricularPipefitter: Whatcha mean.
  115. (5:14:47 PM) integratedInfiltrator: shehasnoalternativestothem
  116. (5:14:49 PM) integratedInfiltrator: sheneedsthem
  117. (5:14:58 PM) integratedInfiltrator: shewilllosehercommunicationswithoutthem
  118. (5:15:17 PM) integratedInfiltrator: sheneedsthemonhandforinstantconnectionandrecall
  119. (5:16:50 PM) ventricularPipefitter: You aren't just talking about 'net access. Elaborate.
  120. (5:17:20 PM) integratedInfiltrator: herfiles
  121. (5:17:22 PM) integratedInfiltrator: hermemories
  122. (5:17:29 PM) integratedInfiltrator: hereverythings
  123. (5:17:33 PM) integratedInfiltrator: areonthisserver
  124. (5:17:40 PM) integratedInfiltrator: itisherasmuchassheis
  125. (5:18:15 PM) ventricularPipefitter: If you're going to be a cyborg, you'd better have some redundancy.
  126. (5:18:31 PM) integratedInfiltrator: ?
  127. (5:19:47 PM) ventricularPipefitter: Having your brain sitting around your hive on a corrupted Land isn't much better than leaving it out in the Ring.
  128. (5:19:59 PM) ventricularPipefitter: What kind of brain damage are you packing, kid, that you can't keep that in your skull?
  129. (5:23:47 PM) integratedInfiltrator: itissignificant
  130. (5:24:15 PM) ventricularPipefitter: Your server isn't coming with you on your next game.
  131. (5:24:24 PM) ventricularPipefitter: Your hive isn't.
  132. (5:27:32 PM) ventricularPipefitter: If you're going to be a Replayer, you're going to need to be complete within yourself.
  133. (5:28:10 PM) ventricularPipefitter: No matter what sort of technopathy you've got packing.
  134. (5:30:39 PM) integratedInfiltrator: sheknows
  135. (5:32:46 PM) ventricularPipefitter: So then, what will you do about it?
  136. (5:33:07 PM) integratedInfiltrator: she
  137. (5:33:18 PM) integratedInfiltrator: shewasgoingtoinstallaprogramfortheneccessities
  138. (5:33:30 PM) integratedInfiltrator: andtakethememoriesthatmatteredmost
  139. (5:33:35 PM) integratedInfiltrator: andhopeforthebest
  140. (5:34:02 PM) integratedInfiltrator: orshewasgoingtotrytomakeadealwithherdenizentoseeifshecouldn'tkeeptheserversomehow
  141. (5:34:10 PM) integratedInfiltrator: butthepricewouldlikelybetoohigh
  142. (5:37:17 PM) ventricularPipefitter: What, you can't keep a computer in your arm or leg?
  143. (5:40:02 PM) integratedInfiltrator: shecouldattemptit
  144. (5:40:14 PM) integratedInfiltrator: butthechanceofmindhoneyinfusionisaverybadrisk
  145. (5:40:24 PM) ventricularPipefitter: Meh. You're a smart kid, you'--
  146. (5:40:27 PM) ventricularPipefitter: What is mind honey
  147. (5:40:45 PM) integratedInfiltrator: thebeesmakeit
  148. (5:40:53 PM) integratedInfiltrator: itaugmentspsychicpowers
  149. (5:41:22 PM) integratedInfiltrator: andanaturalpsychicwhoeatsithastheirpowersaugmentedtoalevelwheretheycannotcontrolit
  150. (5:41:38 PM) ventricularPipefitter: And what does it, and bees, have to do with computing.
  151. (5:42:10 PM) integratedInfiltrator: thebeesareneccessarytotendtoandchangeinformationinthesilicombbeehousemainframes
  152. (5:42:30 PM) ventricularPipefitter: Ah! Biological computing.
  153. (5:42:35 PM) integratedInfiltrator: yes
  154. (5:42:41 PM) ventricularPipefitter: Humans don't use that.
  155. (5:42:47 PM) integratedInfiltrator: oh
  156. (5:42:50 PM) integratedInfiltrator: that
  157. (5:42:54 PM) integratedInfiltrator: howwouldthatwork
  158. (5:44:04 PM) ventricularPipefitter: With electrical impulses? And, uh...magnetic patterns stamped on disks? And circuit patterns on silicon wafers and chips.
  159. (5:44:17 PM) ventricularPipefitter: Look my thing is steampunk I can tell you how the Babbage Engine works.
  160. (5:44:29 PM) ventricularPipefitter: But not a modern dual-core processor.
  161. (5:44:46 PM) integratedInfiltrator: she
  162. (5:45:00 PM) integratedInfiltrator: shewonderswhethershecanevenalchemizesuchthingsinasessionwithouthumans
  163. (5:45:15 PM) ventricularPipefitter: Let's find out later, shall we?
  164. (5:45:26 PM) integratedInfiltrator: yes
  165. (5:45:31 PM) integratedInfiltrator: shewouldlikethat
  166. (5:45:32 PM) ventricularPipefitter: Logica, right?
  167. (5:46:26 PM) ventricularPipefitter: You've...you've done some stuff that makes me extremely uncomfortable, with the Replayer community architecture.
  168. (5:46:27 PM) integratedInfiltrator: yes
  169. (5:46:37 PM) integratedInfiltrator: sheissorry
  170. (5:46:52 PM) ventricularPipefitter: Want to make it up for us?
  171. (5:47:07 PM) integratedInfiltrator: ofcourse
  172. (5:47:22 PM) integratedInfiltrator: ifshedidwrongsheshouldbeheldresponsible
  173. (5:47:33 PM) integratedInfiltrator: andifshedidwrongshewantstohelpmakethingsbetter
  174. (5:49:46 PM) ventricularPipefitter: You're a helpful person, are you?
  175. (5:50:45 PM) ventricularPipefitter: Well then.
  176. (5:51:48 PM) ventricularPipefitter: You're going to help me, and Violet (artisticHourglass to you) understand the parallel process you've used to access our accounts, dongles, session data, etc.
  177. (5:51:55 PM) ventricularPipefitter: And make it more secure.
  178. (5:52:32 PM) ventricularPipefitter: If you're the kid that breaks things, then you'd better know how to fix them. And if something happens to you, someone else needs to know how it works. Redundancy.
  179. (5:52:56 PM) ventricularPipefitter: And -we- know how to keep Corruption out of computers.
  180. (5:53:02 PM) integratedInfiltrator: that
  181. (5:53:13 PM) integratedInfiltrator: thatwouldbeincrediblyreleiving
  182. (5:53:27 PM) ventricularPipefitter: Trust me. The most obvious trans-session communication options? NOT the most secure.
  183. (5:53:28 PM) integratedInfiltrator: butsheishesitanttoletpeoplepokeaboutinherpan
  184. (5:53:52 PM) ventricularPipefitter: I don't want in your head right now, kiddo.
  185. (5:54:05 PM) integratedInfiltrator: sheisnotapilot
  186. (5:54:31 PM) ventricularPipefitter: Pilot?
  187. (5:54:46 PM) integratedInfiltrator: onewhosepaniscontrolled
  188. (5:54:56 PM) integratedInfiltrator: onewhoisusedtoserveapurpose
  189. (5:55:02 PM) integratedInfiltrator: onewhosecontrolistakenaway
  190. (5:55:33 PM) ventricularPipefitter: I'm not a fucking soul-twister
  191. (5:56:16 PM) ventricularPipefitter: And there's nobody on the fora more a fan of the Gentleman's way with Rage.
  192. (5:56:32 PM) integratedInfiltrator: shehasbeenreadingthebook
  193. (5:56:48 PM) ventricularPipefitter: Good.
  194. (5:56:53 PM) integratedInfiltrator: shefindsthatalotofotheraspects'adviceseemstotranslateintohackingadvice
  195. (5:56:58 PM) integratedInfiltrator: donothingwithoutpermission
  196. (5:57:13 PM) integratedInfiltrator: unlessitisdangeroustoletitgoundone
  197. (5:57:35 PM) ventricularPipefitter: With heavy, heavy, caveats regarding 'dangerous to let go undone,' I'd like to emphasize.
  198. (5:57:44 PM) integratedInfiltrator: ofcourse
  199. (6:02:50 PM) ventricularPipefitter: So I'm not going to tell a player she can't keep using her most powerful extra-game tool.
  200. (6:03:08 PM) ventricularPipefitter: Because we -need- people that can do trans-session computing and transmission.
  201. (6:03:40 PM) ventricularPipefitter: But if you want to live long enough to be a resource
  202. (6:03:44 PM) ventricularPipefitter: Rather than a liability.
  203. (6:03:48 PM) ventricularPipefitter: You're going to need some oversight.
  204. (6:04:14 PM) integratedInfiltrator: shewasborninahierarchy
  205. (6:04:23 PM) integratedInfiltrator: sheiswillingtosubmittoorders
  206. (6:04:28 PM) integratedInfiltrator: andbetterjudgment
  207. (6:05:05 PM) ventricularPipefitter: Great. Get me and Vi the documentation, look up the history of the Corpseparty clusterfuck, and we'll start from there.
  208. (6:05:34 PM) ventricularPipefitter: I wish Myra was here.
  209. (6:05:40 PM) integratedInfiltrator: shestillneedsscreenshotstosynthesizefrom
  210. (6:06:58 PM) ventricularPipefitter: Screenshots of what?
  211. (6:07:14 PM) integratedInfiltrator: yourequestedscreenshotsofherwork
  212. (6:07:17 PM) ventricularPipefitter: I'm understandably leery of letting you get a clear look at the behind-the-screens here.
  213. (6:07:19 PM) integratedInfiltrator: shedoesnotusescreens
  214. (6:07:41 PM) integratedInfiltrator: sosheneedssomethingtocomprehendbyit
  215. (6:07:49 PM) integratedInfiltrator: sothatshecanprovidescreenshots
  216. (6:08:46 PM) ventricularPipefitter: So how are you processing this, Decker?
  217. (6:09:06 PM) integratedInfiltrator: decker?
  218. (6:09:31 PM) integratedInfiltrator: sheisgettingsignalstransmittedandistranslatingthemtoausableformat
  219. (6:09:35 PM) integratedInfiltrator: sheignoresmostofit
  220. (6:09:43 PM) integratedInfiltrator: thinkofitasscenery
  221. (6:10:10 PM) integratedInfiltrator: andsheislisteningtothecharactersthatmakeyourwordsandcolors
  222. (6:10:34 PM) ventricularPipefitter: Reference. Don't worry about it. But if you want some human fiction, look for a story called 'Neuromancer,' anything else by the same author, and the RPG 'Shadowrun.'
  223. (6:10:52 PM) ventricularPipefitter: Snow Crash, in the same genre.
  224. (6:10:57 PM) integratedInfiltrator: shewillconsiderit
  225. (6:11:02 PM) integratedInfiltrator: thankyou
  226. (6:11:06 PM) ventricularPipefitter: Mmmm, Snow Crash.
  227. (6:11:22 PM) ***integratedInfiltrator has sent file "processes/backups/memories"
  228. (6:11:31 PM) integratedInfiltrator: thatiseverythingonthisserver
  229. (6:13:02 PM) ventricularPipefitter: Hum. Gonna take a while to parse this.
  230. (6:14:20 PM) ***ventricularPipefitter has sent file "ADMIN_INTERFACE_censored.rar"
  231. (6:14:42 PM) ***integratedInfiltrator has sent folder "screenshots"
  232. (6:16:24 PM) ventricularPipefitter: I've got to get up and make waffles and hangover cures that don't involve something cute Vittaly alchemized. Parsing code gives me a headache. I'll be back later, yeah?
  233. (6:17:44 PM) integratedInfiltrator: okay
  234. (6:17:47 PM) integratedInfiltrator: takecare
  235. (6:18:01 PM) ventricularPipefitter: Seeya, kiddo.
  236. (6:18:12 PM) ***ventricularPipefitter tips his hat.
  237. (6:18:13 PM) integratedInfiltrator: goodbye
  238. (6:18:32 PM) integratedInfiltrator: logicawaves
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