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  2. Rin - Last Thursday at 6:39 PM
  3. I'm reaching a breaking point with Pris and am finding it hard to defuse myself from doing something really drastic
  4. So I'm sorry, whatever comes
  5. I doubt that'll help salvage your perception of me if it comes to it
  6. But so you know
  7. I am sorry
  8. InvisiblePinkUnicorn - Last Thursday at 6:39 PM
  9. squeeeeze.
  10. Rin - Last Thursday at 7:09 PM
  11. pris isn't the root of the issue, unfortunately
  12. the root of the issue lies with a retinue of subhumans who refuse to leave nathan alone
  13. InvisiblePinkUnicorn - Last Thursday at 7:10 PM
  14. I know.
  15. But Pris has kinda dragged him back into that, so it transfers to her.
  16. Rin - Last Thursday at 7:10 PM
  17. uh huh
  18. i have a few ways this could be handled
  19. InvisiblePinkUnicorn - Last Thursday at 7:10 PM
  20. I can try to handle it for you.
  21. Not perfectly. But perhaps in a way you couldn't.
  22. Rin - Last Thursday at 7:11 PM
  23. you would handle it better, but i'd rather you not hurt yourself over it
  24. InvisiblePinkUnicorn - Last Thursday at 7:11 PM
  25. I won't. I'll try a lighter touch.
  26. Rin - Last Thursday at 7:11 PM
  27. i'd like to assume responsibility because it makes me unreasonably angry
  28. but
  29. the first idea was to get pris to disengage from mcm and to leave it in eryl's hands
  30. InvisiblePinkUnicorn - Last Thursday at 7:11 PM
  31. And if that doesn't work, I'll leave a direct approach to you.
  32. Rin - Last Thursday at 7:11 PM
  33. i couldn't accomplish that.
  34. but
  35. if you attempt that
  36. and
  37. it doesn't work
  38. then i make this very clear
  39. i am going to give her a choice between this discord and that place
  40. and i know what her answer is gonna be
  41. and i don't really care
  42. she doesn't listen to any language but force, anger, and manipulation
  43. she ignores things blatantly when she knows people are less conditional, and the stakes are lower
  44. because it's all she knows
  45. and i find that
  46. intensely hard to forgive
  47. the other option is to ruin the lives of the other people, and to incapacitate them, but that's vastly more difficult and vastly less likely to be successful, because these are roaches that live and breathe this sort of conflict and are addicted to it
  48. feeding into it will not have a positive impact nor a negative one
  49. it will do absolutely nothing
  50. InvisiblePinkUnicorn - Last Thursday at 7:13 PM
  51. I know. I need to concentrate for a moment, so forgive me if I stop responding for a bit.
  52. Rin - Last Thursday at 7:13 PM
  53. it's fine
  54. but i'm not going to be told that i can't interact with nathan because he's being made to play games with these people when i know for a fact they're laughing at and abusing him
  55. he knows this
  56. he's doing it because pris is an ignorant trull
  57. but
  58. i'll hush
  59. ... thank yo
  60. u
  61. i didn't...
  62. ... i didn't expect anyone to agree with me
  63. ... i
  64. uh
  65. i
  66. actually don't know how to respond
  67. but this officially rescinds my previous request not to hear about it
  68. this has become unconscionable
  69.  
  70. [Here I have a side conversation with Nathan about what's stressing him out and his reasons for playing PUBG with MCM staff even when it's uncomfortable for him. I can't find a tidy, unambiguously positive answer, but I ask him to consider not playing when Benediction's around, since her presence seems particularly harmful to his emotional health. He agrees that's likely for the best.]
  71.  
  72. Rin - Last Thursday at 8:01 PM
  73. ...
  74. sorry...
  75. i feel like i really should apologize for some reason
  76. but it does calm me down a bit to know i'm not necessarily wrong to be angry about it
  77. when nathan told me why he was playing pubg it was just really revolting
  78. to hear
  79. i often second guess when stuff like that is
  80. actually attempts at reconcilliation and when it's just blatantly awful
  81. so i didn't really know if i was wrong
  82. InvisiblePinkUnicorn - Last Thursday at 9:03 PM
  83. Okay.
  84. I've offered alternate solutions in the long term, and I've gotten Nathan to commit to a short-term solution that will prevent PUBG from being deleterious to their emotional wellbeing.
  85. I think that's the best I can do for now, given that I still don't know anything.
  86. I'll still be working on things from now on.
  87. Rin - Last Thursday at 9:04 PM
  88. yeah i'm being really bossy about getting information
  89. InvisiblePinkUnicorn - Last Thursday at 9:04 PM
  90. The short-term solution involves, as a component, "staying the fuck away from specific unpleasant people".
  91. Rin - Last Thursday at 9:04 PM
  92. and might find a more nonchalant way of lifting the generalized 'ban' on-channel because Pris is so tone-deaf that I doubt they'd connect the dots
  93. but that's not something i was gonna do without talking to other people for opine first
  94. honestly though
  95. i've said the same to you and nathan already and once i say it to blaze i won't need to say it publicly
  96. so i probably won't bother
  97. i might just ask blaze to play good cop if we have to push at all
  98. for pris, i mean
  99. she'll inevitably clam up at the first sign of conflict
  100. (as if she isn't perpetually a steel trap lol)
  101. so i wanted to ask blaze to sorta pad that
  102. they'd be amenable; blaze is just as wary of these things as we are
  103. but anyway
  104. i'm going to avoid talking to pris and if it wasn't totally conspicuous
  105. i'd probably ask her to sit out of scenes
  106. for the next week or so
  107. i won't, but i want to
  108. it might be misplaced, but i've lost all faith in them
  109. i don't really actively pursue any kind of relationship with them anymore and need a few days to get over my bitterness about them before i can talk to them without wanting to explode on them
  110. so
  111. just so you're aware of that being in the background
  112. you'd sense the tension; i want you to know why it's there
  113. InvisiblePinkUnicorn - Last Thursday at 9:08 PM
  114. I'm aware, but thank you. ^^
  115. I'll keep it in mind.
  116. Rin - Last Thursday at 9:09 PM
  117. nod
  118. i'll lay off until my level of vehemence would be productive to apply
  119. i kinda appreciate the lack of need for self-moderation
  120. it's not that i couldn't if i were alone but i like being able to rely on other people
  121. InvisiblePinkUnicorn - Last Thursday at 9:09 PM
  122. nod...
  123. I like having the chance to help
  124. So don't worry
  125. Rin - Last Thursday at 9:10 PM
  126. but if it were up to my impulse right now i would just priscilla to fucking leave and nathan to just stop talking to her or something impossible and obscene like that
  127. sighs
  128. but there is one thing that i'm glad about
  129. it's that nathan wasn't doing this of their own volition
  130. i'm glad to know that they're doing this 'for pris' and not because they earnestly thought it was a good idea
  131. if that were the case, i would've
  132. i don't really know
  133. i wouldn't clenched my teeth a lot over it
  134. at least this way i have somewhere to place frustration
  135. being angry at pris doesn't necessitate yelling at them, as much as i want to, so
  136. at least i have something else to feel like i could theoretically do
  137. and that
  138. that helps me
  139. ... but i don't wanna be friends with pris anymore
  140. after the tp stuff, and knowing they were blatantly investing more energy on mcm and planning their own scenes on the same day
  141. because they perceived this situation as less volatile and less urgent
  142. after all her litanies about politicking
  143. and othersuch
  144. the level of a lack of self-efficacy i see in that is just impossible to reconcile
  145. i'll never view her the same way again, with this compounded on top of that
  146. so, i'm really closed to her and i don't really consider her feelings like i should
  147. so i'll try not to act on my own with regards to her
  148.  
  149. [Conversation drifts off of the topic of Priscilla and Nathan. The next night, she pokes Priscilla on the Quiet World server about airing her grievances.]
  150.  
  151. InvisiblePinkUnicorn - Yesterday at 12:58 AM
  152. Please be careful, okay?
  153. Rin - Yesterday at 12:58 AM
  154. i'm not mentioning any of this stuff
  155. i'm going to vent the other stuff
  156. about her constantly being weird with scenes, and general social stuff
  157. i'm not going to mention anything that specific
  158. InvisiblePinkUnicorn - Yesterday at 12:59 AM
  159. Okay. Good luck.
  160. Rin - Yesterday at 1:01 AM
  161. don't worry too much
  162. i first asked her 45 minutes ago and she's been too 'distracted by work' to even notice it
  163. when she sees that she'll probably brush it off, not realize i'm serious, etc
  164. the conversation might not even happen
  165. copypaste from blaze:
  166. exhales
  167. you know something?
  168. it's honestly
  169. just
  170. a massive relief
  171. to know that she knows i'm angry
  172. InvisiblePinkUnicorn - Yesterday at 1:15 AM
  173. nod...
  174. I'd hoped it would be.
  175. Rin - Yesterday at 1:16 AM
  176. i'm making an itinerary of things to go through with blaze so that i don't get nervous in the heat of the moment and either break down into sobbing or yelling
  177. since i consider you sorta the backup mediator
  178. that goes like
  179. okay, so
  180. The first is about scene stuff
  181. How I am upset about how she's been missing stuff, and narcoleptic, and even though she's said she's going to be better, I haven't had the opportunity to gauge that one way or the other
  182. and how I still need to let her know i feel extremely slighted
  183. expanding from that, i feel like i've been sidelined because she views me as less risky than others in terms of
  184. rping
  185. and i don't appreciate that me trying to reign myself in is being rewarded with what i take as being ignored
  186. i've never felt quite right about how we communicate with one another, and there's a massive disparity between what she considers casual friendly banter and what i consider rude
  187. and i feel like she hasn't made much of an effort to understand my boundaries in that regard
  188. I'm not going to mention
  189. and make a very strenuous effort
  190. not to allude to mcm or nathan at all
  191. i think that's enough to have in mind, because she'll no doubt have her own litany of grievances and responses thereto
  192. would you suggest anything else
  193. InvisiblePinkUnicorn - Yesterday at 1:17 AM
  194. No; that sounds like a good itinerary.
  195. Rin - Yesterday at 1:17 AM
  196. blaze suggested thinking of some examples of what she says that feels rude to me
  197. but that'll take me a bit
  198. InvisiblePinkUnicorn - Yesterday at 1:18 AM
  199. nod!
  200. Rin - Yesterday at 1:23 AM
  201. i'll be able to sleep at least
  202. saying even this much helped immensely
  203. InvisiblePinkUnicorn - Yesterday at 1:23 AM
  204. I'm glad. <3
  205.  
  206. [Conversation ends. She then left a series of messages for me after I'd signed off for the night on Friday.]
  207.  
  208. Rin - Today at 4:18 AM
  209. I had a talk with Setsu
  210. I resolved that the best way I can handle this is to be patient
  211. I'll be more straight with you than the others
  212. I want to, desperately want to, just throw all the emotional weight I have to force disengagement from these offending circles
  213. But the reality is, that would leave regrets
  214. A rift
  215. People need their own time to be free of emotional baggage
  216. And the best thing I can do to help in the meantime is to be patient
  217. And to assure that I and we will always be here
  218. For everyone
  219. So
  220. I'll do my part
  221. I'll be s bit lonely and
  222. Try not to throw tantrums when people need to be silent
  223. I'll do what I'm supposed to and have faith that you all will resolve it
  224. Because keeping this place pure is the only way I can help
  225. That's my decision and I'm unlikely to change it now
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