[23:05] <[DA]Taylor_Rain> alright
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[23:05] <[DA]Gliscor> we starting
[23:05] <[DA]Gliscor> ?
[23:05] <[DA]Taylor_Rain> yeah i am just looking for other recruiters
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[23:06] <PimpShit> [MurderMachine] "The world is a dangerous place to live, not because of the people who are evil, but because of the people who don't do anything about it." -Albert Einstein.
[23:06] * PimpShit sets mode: +qo MurderMachine MurderMachine
[23:06] <MurderMachine> >___________>
[23:06] <MurderMachine> Whoops
[23:06] <[DA]Taylor_Rain> finally
[23:06] <[DA]Gliscor> lol
[23:07] <[DA]dukefan5> I am here
[23:07] <[DA]Taylor_Rain> what we want to discuss
[23:07] <[DA]Taylor_Rain> parts of the recruiting guide
[23:07] <[DA]Taylor_Rain> and suggestions on changes maybe
[23:08] <[DA]Taylor_Rain> Things the recruit must fulfill:
[23:08] <[DA]Taylor_Rain> A. Be good at battling
[23:08] <[DA]Taylor_Rain> - Have good prediction, or a decent level of playing. An example is being able to switch and guess if a certain type of attack is coming. They don't have to be right.
[23:08] <[DA]Taylor_Rain> - Have a balanced team. They must have a full team of 6 EV'd Pokemon, and not have something like all region starters.
[23:08] <[DA]Taylor_Rain> that basically is the same i wrote topics about in the tutoring section
[23:09] <[DA]Taylor_Rain> being able to predict moves, switches
[23:09] <[DA]dukefan5> For me at least, the hardest part is the borderline battlers. When it is hard to tell if they predict or not
[23:09] <[DA]Taylor_Rain> well
[23:09] <[DA]Taylor_Rain> if you use a move that would kill something
[23:09] <[DA]Taylor_Rain> does he switch?
[23:10] <[DA]dukefan5> Yes, but what if they switch to something that also gets killed by it
[23:10] <[DA]dukefan5> That happens a lot
[23:10] <[DA]Taylor_Rain> thats stupid then
[23:10] <[DA]Taylor_Rain> except
[23:10] <[DA]Taylor_Rain> they have no other choice
[23:10] <[DA]Taylor_Rain> then his team sucks
[23:10] <[DA]dukefan5> Unless they overpredicted your move or something weird.
[23:10] <[DA]Taylor_Rain> a good battler has to things
[23:11] <[DA]Taylor_Rain> skills + good team
[23:11] <[DA]Taylor_Rain> if one thing misses you lose
[23:11] <[DA]Taylor_Rain> prediction skills is easy to tell actually
[23:11] <[DA]Crow> [17:09] <@[DA]dukefan5> For me at least, the hardest part is the borderline battlers. When it is hard to tell if they predict or not
[23:11] <[DA]Taylor_Rain> i made a topic about it
[23:11] <[DA]dukefan5> What if they predict, but just suck at predicting
[23:11] <[DA]Crow> adding to what tay stated
[23:12] <[DA]Crow> you should also judge based on they're personality
[23:12] <[DA]Crow> like if they act like a noob
[23:12] <[DA]Crow> if they just get lucky with predictions then they really arn't predictions
[23:12] <[DA]Taylor_Rain> yeah
[23:13] <[DA]Taylor_Rain> an example for noobishness
[23:13] <[DA]Taylor_Rain> you have suicune
[23:13] <[DA]Taylor_Rain> he has vaporeon and zapdos
[23:13] <[DA]Crow> or u just takl liek a nuub
[23:13] <[DA]Taylor_Rain> he goes to vaporeon to "take" water hits
[23:13] <[DA]Taylor_Rain> not knowing it probably is a crocune
[23:14] <[DA]Taylor_Rain> which rapes zapdos after +2 or +3 cms
[23:14] <[DA]Taylor_Rain> that is noobish
[23:14] <[DA]Taylor_Rain> well prediction is important to let someone in
[23:15] <[DA]dukefan5> ...Crocune cant touch vaporeon though. Rest, CM, Sleeptalk, Surf...so how is Vaporeon a bad switch
[23:15] <[DA]Taylor_Rain> if his team isn´t good enough that can be fixed
[23:15] <[DA]Taylor_Rain> they can be battlers who are not used to smogon or shoddy
[23:15] <[DA]Taylor_Rain> and therefore use lower tier pkm
[23:15] <[DA]Taylor_Rain> i mean lower in OU
[23:16] <[DA]Taylor_Rain> duke if it has roar
[23:16] <[DA]Taylor_Rain> then yes
[23:16] <[DA]Gliscor> that makes it a little hard for me to deceide if theyre in cause some use a bunch of NU and im using some OU whores
[23:16] <[DA]dukefan5> Even if it doesnt. Rest, CM, Sleep Talk, Surf. Vaporeon takes no damage ever...
[23:16] <[DA]Taylor_Rain> well you must tell the recruit its a standard battle
[23:16] <[DA]Gliscor> ok
[23:16] <[DA]Taylor_Rain> duke it will be pressure stall
[23:16] <[DA]Taylor_Rain> suicune wins
[23:16] <[DA]dukefan5> Thats true.
[23:17] * [DA]RazorX is now known as ^_^
[23:17] <[DA]Taylor_Rain> and btw it was just an example
[23:17] <[DA]dukefan5> Yeah, I just wanted to think it through...lol.
[23:17] <[DA]Taylor_Rain> gliscor
[23:17] <[DA]Taylor_Rain> you can refuse someone
[23:17] <[DA]Taylor_Rain> and tell him to use OU´s
[23:17] <[DA]Gliscor> ya thats wat i normally do
[23:17] <MurderMachine> Some people use NU and UU in standard and still play well
[23:18] <[DA]Gliscor> advise them to get some OU and try again
[23:18] <[DA]Taylor_Rain> i know jack
[23:18] <[DA]Taylor_Rain> i saw ppl being good with them
[23:18] <[DA]Gliscor> if they dont  do good with NU/UU of course
[23:18] <[DA]Taylor_Rain> but still get raped in OU
[23:18] <[DA]Taylor_Rain> bcuz whorish
[23:18] <[DA]Taylor_Rain> in that case you could let him in
[23:18] <[DA]Taylor_Rain> if you see he is good with UUs
[23:19] <[DA]Taylor_Rain> its just not smart to use them in standard
[23:19] <[DA]Taylor_Rain> most of them can´t beat 6 OUs
[23:20] <[DA]Taylor_Rain> B. You must tell if they battle decently
[23:20] <[DA]Taylor_Rain> - They can KO your Pokemon without luck hax, and not get lucky predictions such as misclicks. If you know they are not very good, do not let them in and explain what they did wrong.
[23:20] <[DA]Taylor_Rain> - No hacks (No Pokemon over 252 EVs and no 31 x 6 ETC.)
[23:20] <[DA]Taylor_Rain> basically the same
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[23:20] <[DA]Taylor_Rain> if you think he won with luck you can request a rematch
[23:20] <[DA]Taylor_Rain> or if you screwed yourself over
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[23:21] <[DA]Taylor_Rain> of course you should be able to recognize illegit hacks
[23:21] <[DA]RazorX> im here
[23:21] <[DA]RazorX> :o
[23:21] <[DA]Taylor_Rain> i smell them when i see them
[23:21] <[DA]Taylor_Rain> and i was always right so far
[23:22] <[DA]Taylor_Rain> "its hacked" during the battle
[23:22] <[DA]Taylor_Rain> if you´re not sure about something that should have died from your move
[23:22] <[DA]Taylor_Rain> you can look at his team
[23:23] <[DA]Taylor_Rain> some ppl don´t even know they have illegit things in their team
[23:23] <[DA]Taylor_Rain> sav shouldn´t allow to ev all stats
[23:23] <[DA]Taylor_Rain> C. They must have a good personality.
[23:23] <[DA]Taylor_Rain> - They must take a loss and not be a sore loser.
[23:23] <[DA]Taylor_Rain> - They must not be too cocky.
[23:23] <[DA]Taylor_Rain> - They follow the chat rules such as no spamming or racism.
[23:24] <[DA]Taylor_Rain> self explanary
[23:24] <[DA]Taylor_Rain> i had such an opponent once
[23:24] <[DA]Taylor_Rain> he got pwned and couldn´t take it
[23:24] <[DA]Taylor_Rain> some french guy
[23:24] <[DA]RazorX> lol
[23:25] <[DA]Crow> so you don't let them in if they're french?
[23:25] <[DA]Taylor_Rain> xD
[23:25] <[DA]RazorX> xD
[23:25] <[DA]Gliscor> lol
[23:25] <[DA]Taylor_Rain> i am no racist
[23:25] <[DA]dukefan5> lol
[23:25] <[DA]Taylor_Rain> but they think they are the shit
[23:25] <[DA]Taylor_Rain> the most
[23:25] <[DA]Gliscor> xD
[23:25] <[DA]RazorX> lol
[23:25] <[DA]Taylor_Rain> then get owned
[23:26] <[DA]Taylor_Rain> D. They must be decent (More to lesson A)
[23:26] <[DA]Taylor_Rain> - If you 6-0 them, they might still have skill, and you can let them in.
[23:26] <[DA]Taylor_Rain> Tay 6-0'd a recruit, but the recruit knew what he/she was doing, so they got in.
[23:26] <[DA]Taylor_Rain> - If you are not doing well or misclicking or have mispredictions, resort to their knowledge and battling skills.
[23:26] <[DA]Taylor_Rain> its getting redundant
[23:26] <[DA]Taylor_Rain> this guide should be shortened
[23:26] * [DA]Taylor_Rain looks at crow
[23:26] <[DA]Crow> ?
[23:27] <[DA]Crow> lol
[23:27] <[DA]RazorX> lol
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[23:27] <[DA]Sol64|food> lol
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[23:27] <PimpShit> [MurderMachine] "The world is a dangerous place to live, not because of the people who are evil, but because of the people who don't do anything about it." -Albert Einstein.
[23:27] * PimpShit sets mode: +qo MurderMachine MurderMachine
[23:27] <[DA]Taylor_Rain> E. Other things
[23:27] <[DA]Taylor_Rain> - They must know and follow the standard rules.
[23:27] <[DA]Taylor_Rain> - They must have a standard competitive team consisting of 6 fully EV trained Pokemon.
[23:27] <[DA]Taylor_Rain> - He should have a DS and wifi, but it is not necessary in order to join the clan
[23:27] <[DA]Taylor_Rain> - If he only has shoddy, he may join under these restrictions:
[23:27] <[DA]Taylor_Rain> He can´t open a gym necessary to challenge the E4
[23:27] <[DA]Taylor_Rain> He can´t have an E4 spot
[23:27] <[DA]Taylor_Rain> He can´t become champ
[23:27] <[DA]Sol64|food> well yeah
[23:28] <[DA]Taylor_Rain> well theres not much to explain
[23:28] <[DA]Crow> i have a question
[23:28] <[DA]Taylor_Rain> ppl who don´t know standard rules shouldn´t be let in
[23:28] <[DA]Taylor_Rain> give them the link to smogon
[23:28] <[DA]RazorX> lol
[23:28] <[DA]Crow> lol
[23:29] <[DA]Taylor_Rain> i want to point out redtyrant used a darkrai in a standard battle vs chileno once
[23:29] <[DA]RazorX> ppl should give them links to the actual page that explains EVs
[23:29] <[DA]Crow> where do you go to recruit people
[23:29] <[DA]RazorX> and not just smogon.com <- go, NOA!
[23:29] <[DA]Taylor_Rain> crow
[23:29] <[DA]Taylor_Rain> i think you can use 3 places
[23:29] <[DA]Taylor_Rain> forums/websites
[23:29] <[DA]Crow> which?
[23:29] <[DA]Crow> lol
[23:29] <[DA]Taylor_Rain> youtube
[23:29] <[DA]Taylor_Rain> and sppwifi maybe
[23:30] <[DA]Taylor_Rain> slash smogon
[23:30] <[DA]Taylor_Rain> well each site with a big community
[23:30] <[DA]Taylor_Rain> which doesn´t call himself clan
[23:30] <[DA]Crow> youtube?
[23:30] <[DA]Taylor_Rain> make advertising videos
[23:30] <[DA]Crow> i can't
[23:30] <[DA]Crow> and some forums don't allow advertising
[23:30] <[DA]Taylor_Rain> pm them
[23:31] <[DA]Taylor_Rain> ppl did that with me on a german forum
[23:31] <[DA]Taylor_Rain> they wanted to recruit me
[23:31] <[DA]Taylor_Rain> officially advertising wasn´t allowed there
[23:31] <[DA]Taylor_Rain> xD
[23:31] <[DA]Crow> if i ever get a pm on a forum from a random guy to join there site
[23:31] <[DA]Crow> i'll delete it then spam their site lol
[23:31] <[DA]Crow> well not spam it
[23:32] <[DA]Taylor_Rain> well you need to explain of course
[23:32] <[DA]Crow> i would just ignore it
[23:32] <[DA]Taylor_Rain> not like
[23:32] <[DA]Taylor_Rain> "hey go there: ..."
[23:32] <[DA]Taylor_Rain> thats stupid
[23:32] <[DA]Crow> i usually only troll people who send me stuff on spp-wifi
[23:32] <[DA]Taylor_Rain> you need to message them properly
[23:32] <[DA]Crow> it's stupid if you type a huge thing in a pm
[23:32] <[DA]Taylor_Rain> and tell them about the clan
[23:32] <[DA]Crow> it's only good when a forum allows it
[23:32] <[DA]Crow> like up
[23:32] <[DA]Taylor_Rain> each forums allow pms
[23:33] <[DA]Taylor_Rain> save your message somewhere
[23:33] <[DA]Taylor_Rain> if its always the same
[23:33] <[DA]Taylor_Rain> c/p
[23:33] <[DA]Taylor_Rain> i don´t know other places than these
[23:33] <[DA]Taylor_Rain> forums/websites, youtube, shoddy/sppwifi
[23:34] <[DA]RazorX> there are also sometimes some rouges on our chat that you could ask
[23:34] <[DA]RazorX> :3
[23:34] <[DA]Taylor_Rain> rouges?
[23:34] <[DA]Gliscor> lol
[23:34] <[DA]Taylor_Rain> whats that
[23:34] <[DA]RazorX> people whoa ren't in any clan
[23:35] <[DA]Taylor_Rain> i know
[23:35] <[DA]Taylor_Rain> you can ask them sure
[23:35] <[DA]Taylor_Rain> but most likely they would ask to join if they want
[23:35] <[DA]RazorX> yeah
[23:35] <[DA]RazorX> but it doesn't hurt to try sometimes
[23:35] <[DA]Taylor_Rain> a thing which is very important for me
[23:36] <[DA]Taylor_Rain> a recruiter needs to complete the process
[23:36] <[DA]Taylor_Rain> registration on chat and forums is very important to tell them
[23:36] <[DA]Taylor_Rain> and make sure they did
[23:36] <[DA]Taylor_Rain> the admin/owner doesn´t know them all
[23:37] <[DA]Taylor_Rain> i´ve seen enough examples of people who didn´t get told to register
[23:37] <[DA]Taylor_Rain> or it didn´t work somehow
[23:37] <[DA]Taylor_Rain> make sure your recruit registers on both
[23:37] <[DA]RazorX> i see a lot of members who weren't told
[23:37] <[DA]RazorX> and then i have to do it x_x
[23:37] <[DA]Gliscor> lol
[23:37] <[DA]Taylor_Rain> you´re supposed to tell an admin
[23:38] <[DA]Taylor_Rain> to approve him
[23:38] <[DA]Taylor_Rain> our forums need approval for new people
[23:38] <[DA]RazorX> i know
[23:38] <[DA]Taylor_Rain> i see many people in validating
[23:38] <[DA]Taylor_Rain> and i have no clue who they are
[23:38] <[DA]Taylor_Rain> neither does jack or coaster
[23:38] <[DA]Taylor_Rain> i believe
[23:39] <MurderMachine> Yep
[23:39] <[DA]RazorX> i g2g
[23:39] <[DA]Taylor_Rain> and also tell the recruit to check out the pinned topics after they got approval
[23:39] <[DA]RazorX> bye guys
[23:39] <[DA]Gliscor> bii
[23:39] <[DA]Taylor_Rain> some people don´t read forums
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[23:40] <[DA]Taylor_Rain> considering them unimportant
[23:40] <[DA]Taylor_Rain> at least tell the new guy to check them all out
[23:40] <[DA]Taylor_Rain> if he will do it is his choice
[23:40] <[DA]dukefan5> Thats a good point. Reenforcement of the importnace of the forums is always good
[23:40] <[DA]Taylor_Rain> people who don´t read forums don´t know anything
[23:41] <[DA]Taylor_Rain> then they feel the clan useless for them
[23:41] <[DA]Taylor_Rain> and leave
[23:41] <[DA]Crow> lol
[23:41] <[DA]Taylor_Rain> they are like
[23:41] <[DA]Taylor_Rain> "what do i do here now"
[23:41] <[DA]Crow> the UP thread still has people posting in it
[23:41] <[DA]Crow> i updated it though
[23:41] <[DA]Taylor_Rain> they don´t know there are gyms
[23:41] <[DA]Taylor_Rain> for example
[23:41] <[DA]Taylor_Rain> that is bad
[23:43] <[DA]Taylor_Rain> ok
[23:43] <[DA]Taylor_Rain> any questions/suggestions?
[23:43] <[DA]Taylor_Rain> except shrinking the guide
[23:43] <[DA]Taylor_Rain> like i said
[23:45] <[DA]Taylor_Rain> .
[23:46] <[DA]Sol64|food> uh-huh
[23:46] <[DA]Taylor_Rain> no questions then
[23:46] <[DA]Taylor_Rain> i will pastebin it for the other r