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- Saxton Hale OOT.
- Kiryu has presented Saxton as OOT.
- He claims that Saxton can react and punch pistol bullets out of the air, and quantifies this statement by saying that pistol bullets move at 900-1800fps, or 274-548m/s. For reference Guts moves his body at 45m/s and reacts in 25ms. Saxton reacts and moves between 6-12 times faster than Guts could move.
- Kiryu further compounds this issue by stating that Saxton can tag people who are capable of dodging rifle bullets fired at close range.
- This is enough that Guts could literally never hit Saxton. It takes Guts at a minimum 30ms to complete a thrust. He does not thrust faster than pistol or rifle bullets.
- Guts's skill against normal men means almost next to nothing next to someone who moves a hundred times faster than normal people. Look at the Rosaine fight, "Someone fast enough to bypass Guts range easily hits him, leaving him helpless against them."
- While Guts is capable of hurting Hale with the blunt force of his sword, he struggles to hit him, and does not one shot. The opposite is not true, Saxton can immediately get in on Guts, and either start a grapple, in which Guts has only 1 option, the Arm Cannon, or Hale can strike guts and significantly injure, or outright kill Guts with one punch.
- Hale is OOT.
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