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- CS291 L2 Post Pre-SilverScript Aug 8 2017
- L2 Post Pre-Trial Hearing https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CRjyK92zGoY
- Transcript
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- that's great all right George you've
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- just come out of the pre-trial hearing
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- what's the upshot well I think the
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- prosecution the key to this case is
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- probable cause the jet-like the judge
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- said we don't have a law in America for
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- sleeping in your vehicle now maybe
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- there's some you know minor ticket that
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- you can get but you can't just come up
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- on somebody come up on someone who is
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- sleeping in their vehicle on the side of
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- a road on private property and then all
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- of a sudden go into a whole bunch of
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- interrogations and going through an
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- arrest procedure you can't clearly I
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- showed it's gonna
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- we're gonna be able to get discovery
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- hopefully there won't be any IT issues
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- we're be able to get the transcript of
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- what occurred and so you'll be able to
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- see it I was about in the courtroom for
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- about 20 minutes
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- IT issues you mean spoliation of
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- evidence yeah I'm not saying that
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- anybody's gonna spoil any evidence but I
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- would like to tape so everyone could see
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- actually the case I made I asked to
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- leave the Dutch judge's chambers to go
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- on record we went into the courtroom was
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- recorded I had a microphone my
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- distinguished counterpart Emily Tarr
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- bear who was a distinguished prosecutor
- 1:26
- here at Zanesville was representing the
- 1:28
- state she pled the case that you know we
- 1:32
- rolled up on on the person we had we
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- went through this procedure and then we
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- ended up arresting mr. swaggin well mr.
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- George Webb swagger my full man well a
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- lot of things that she had been apprised
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- of which sometimes happens when
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- prosecutors have a full caseload
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- she wasn't aware of for instance that
- 1:54
- the FBI was the group that started this
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- whole process and this happens a lot
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- with prosecutors who don't necessarily
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- put their case
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- aren't able to know all the facts of all
- 2:04
- the things that occur but I clearly
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- pointed out that officer Comstock
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- received a call or it made a phone call
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- at 1:45 a.m. back to Special Agent Chris
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- Whitaker in South Carolina
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- he's the JTTF expert I believe in South
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- Carolina this is directly related to the
- 2:23
- port situation now I don't know when his
- 2:25
- initial phone call was but the state
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- admitted that there was several calls
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- out to the barbecue place that I went to
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- earlier in the evening where I was with
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- the first contact I was meeting with he
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- was also a police officer next police
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- officer so I the state was not aware
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- that I was in Zanesville to do this
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- reporting that we find so important
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- about our national security the state
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- wasn't aware that the two people that I
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- was meeting the person at the beginning
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- of the night where I was initially
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- pinged
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- where the FBI was paying me and
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- following me and putting out suspicious
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- activity reports they had not realized
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- that I was meeting them I came here to
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- Zanesville to meet them to get that
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- information to provide to national
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- security to homeland security they were
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- not aware that at the second meeting
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- that I was having that night waiting for
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- that person to meet me was also related
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- to national security so those are two
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- key things that the state wasn't
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- apprised of before the meeting I believe
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- at that point that changed the tenor of
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- the meeting I think this is and I can
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- understand what the caseloads and so
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- forth not being able to know all the
- 3:26
- facts of all the cases I felt that the
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- Emily tar bear was
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- amitabh 'l too settling this before
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- trial i that's the feeling I got she
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- said she was gonna check with the other
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- officers to get the facts of the case
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- but I believe she will and now there are
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- other constructed constructed probable
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- causes that come later in the evening so
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- we didn't get an I I mentioned we didn't
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- get the discovery we asked for we asked
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- for the discovery of the phone calls
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- between Special Agent Chris Whitaker in
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- South Carolina and also between mr.
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- Comstock here was the duty officer at
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- that night we didn't get that we didn't
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- provide that I asked about the body
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- cameras there is no body cameras in the
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- city of Zanesville so I would suggest at
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- this point maybe that would be a good
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- idea just for every for justice in bulk
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- for both sides George what agencies
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- Whitaker is special agent of well it
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- says here FBI agent and mr. Comstock
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- testimony but didn't we see a letter
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- separate or some documentation that
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- Laurie had sent that shows that he's
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- with the Coast Guard
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- I think frequently in Department of
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- Homeland Security services they people
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- move back and forth between these
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- agencies on task forces the whole idea
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- of the general terrorism task force is
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- that exactly that to create a cross
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- fertilisation amongst all the agencies
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- to provide the best security they can to
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- the people United States we certainly
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- want to encourage that what we don't
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- want to encourage is starting to
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- single out people who have the best
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- interests of the country in in mind and
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- then turn the tables on them and then
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- attack them that is what we want does
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- that create a loophole for just that to
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- happen by having this sort of if you had
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- a loophole let's say you had a
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- diplomatic loophole which we do in this
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- country and it's a shipping loophole and
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- anyone with a diplomatic passport can
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- now start shipping things into this
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- country without proper search without
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- proper checking without proper testing
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- so that creates a loophole for bringing
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- in all sorts of things mainly depleted
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- uranium weapons which we had done some
- 5:21
- exploration in this case but white
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- phosphorus weapons poisonous gas
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- anything that could be used in a
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- terrorist incident and that needs to be
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- protected the Port of South Carolina and
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- all the ports in the United States need
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- to have that capability to do the
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- radiation testing to do the testing they
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- need to do they cannot be turned away we
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- cannot you turned away by somebody
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- saying oh well I'm a diplomatic courier
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- and I don't want this check but the
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- question is does JTTF itself create a
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- law enforcement loophole that puts
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- citizens and journalists and people like
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- you in this situation in jeopardy I do
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- believe it does because if you look in
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- the precursors of the JTTF which is a
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- Phoenix program in Vietnam and other
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- programs or DHS and in the South
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- American countries it creates a
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- federalized State a federalized sort of
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- police state where it's sort of a
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- top-down through regional centers to
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- regional fusion centers creates a
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- top-down capability and this is the next
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- step is a enemies list
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- it's a winner's list and an enemies list
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- and then the enemies people on the
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- terrorism watch list and I've been boy
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- at my FBI records I don't know if I
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- meant of terrorism watch list or not but
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- the people who are most concerned about
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- national security shouldn't be the
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- targets of that watch list we should be
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- have the due process which Fifth
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- Amendment being able to look and query
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- are we on the watch list or not and
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- present evidence to the effect that we
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- are not a threat as a matter of fact
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- with the opposite we care more about
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- national security than most so in this
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- case I had mentioned to the the
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- prosecution presented evidence that said
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- the vehicle was running at the time I
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- corrected the
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- rekted they prosecutor and said I read
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- the testimony directly that said to
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- process the vehicle by the testimony of
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- officer far I believe his name is he
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- says the truck was not running but the
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- male subject inside stated so this is
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- doctor officer ruff stated that case so
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- we cleared that up for the prosecution I
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- think this is just a kind of I'm not
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- saying rush to judgment to quote a mark
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- Lane I I think this was kind of a rush
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- to please maybe a rush to please JTTF
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- and we skip some steps with skiffs
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- skipped some very important
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- constitutional steps in this case we
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- skipped the whole step of just cause a
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- trouble scar and that and that is going
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- to come back to be very important in
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- this case and that's what we're gonna
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- present the jury if it goes to a jury
- 7:44
- now George has been quite a turnout here
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- of supporters crowd source community
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- members fans people who have come from
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- far and wide and everybody's out here
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- perhaps not this guy
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- Steve I Steve tell us a little bit what
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- what brought you here did George I've
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- been following the education who brought
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- this country I'm blown away you've
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- invented a whole new form of journalism
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- your father I know cell phone cordless
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- phone cordless phone yeah
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- which I had to do some searching on but
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- I know he's looking down on you and
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- because you've invented a whole new form
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- of journalism that has blown me away
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- what crowd sourcing I got in about 50
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- yeah oh good you're I've been I've been
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- watching you for a long time I can't
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- tell you how impressed I am I can't tell
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- you you know what kind of service you're
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- doing this country because the
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- corruption is just mine yeah hopefully
- 8:50
- hopefully we'll just make a check on the
- 8:52
- system here this isn't a indictment of
- 8:55
- the whole system but hopefully this will
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- be a check on the powers and balance of
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- powers we'll get back to you know guys
- 9:05
- people in the comments are saying they
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- feel like the state is likely to drop
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- the case but you actually don't want
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- that do you George I'm not sure I think
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- the state wants to divide the FBI out of
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- this and make it make it like that
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- wasn't the causal factor well the
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- problem with the law is you can't
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- reconstruct events to your liking when
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- you're presenting a case you must take
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- the facts as they are and the the whole
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- scene a quoi knowledge is if what is it
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- without without the causal factor
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- nothing else follows you must start with
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- the cause of factors we call the factor
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- by their own testimony is 1:45 when the
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- call is returned to the FBI agent so we
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- don't even know when the FBI agent
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- originally made the call now in the in
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- the case in the hearing you'll see that
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- the
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- prosecution the state says that they did
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- make calls out to the place that was
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- eating at the barbecue way before I went
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- to the hotel way before I went out to
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- meet the second contact that night so
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- it's clear that there's a pattern and
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- practice where the FBI is pinging the
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- phone we asked for discovery that we
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- didn't get that we asked for the radio
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- conversations between the officers and
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- the FBI we didn't get that what we have
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- here is you must show from the beginning
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- causal factor a chain of evidence all
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- the way to to having probable cause to
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- roll up on it because as the judge said
- 10:23
- there's no law against sleeping in your
- 10:26
- vehicle on private property on the side
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- of a dead-end road now George you spoke
- 10:30
- to Dennis Kucinich briefly last night
- 10:32
- thank you can you talk a bit about the
- 10:34
- advice that he gave you and is that the
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- the method that you followed and your
- 10:38
- approach no Dennis Kucinich is and also
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- cliff artifact and also about that Ray
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- cos all three tremendous civil rights
- 10:46
- luminaries in the United States I felt
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- that this was an important place to make
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- a stand
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- they all said don't make a federal case
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- out of something that is in a federal
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- case well I am gonna make a federal case
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- out of something that is a federal race
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- though this is a federal case this
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- process was started by the FBI pinging
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- my phone and by the letter of their own
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- police state by their own it by their
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- own testimony I've not even presented a
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- to any evidence yet by their own
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- testimony by their own testimony the
- 11:14
- vehicle was on it's quite strange that
- 11:16
- they gave you all that information isn't
- 11:17
- it well I guess
- 11:21
- pays to discover but we're gonna keep
- 11:25
- asking for discovery because we need to
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- have a situation where you cannot go but
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- you don't have to discovery if you when
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- you don't have the probable cause that
- 11:33
- you want and you're all about somebody
- 11:35
- want to arrest them go from house to
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- house to house looking for the probable
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- cause you cannot construct the probable
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- cause going down the neighborhood and
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- finally saying you know if somebody was
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- near the car with flashlights and so
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- forth you can't do that you have to
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- start with the thing that started it all
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- off which was the FBI calls the FBI
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- James
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- so George we've got a lot more people
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- here are there any other people that
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- want to say hello yeah okay there's
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- folks that don't want to be identified
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- which I can understand
- 12:03
- I want to say I just want to say thank
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- you you all this is you've taken time
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- out of your day this is a fun day
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- it's Tuesday
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- yeah thank you so much and you know I
- 12:19
- remember meeting you at Columbus Airport
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- when I was here the last time and I
- 12:27
- remember you you had talked about your
- 12:28
- service in the Navy and your time and
- 12:31
- and how this was a special case to you
- 12:33
- and I'll never forget that because it's
- 12:35
- in those lowest moments where you think
- 12:37
- you're trying to do the right thing and
- 12:38
- then everything seems to be turning the
- 12:40
- tables against you that it's in those
- 12:43
- times where you remember people the most
- 12:44
- and it's it's Dennis Kucinich calling me
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- last night with Jason walk you through
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- this thing let me really take some time
- 13:06
- with hey cliff party Beck was the same
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- way I don't know if you know cliff from
- 13:09
- Columbus Steve but he's a outstanding
- 13:12
- civil rights lawyer Bob Petraeus also
- 13:14
- with a separate case so Jared back
- 13:18
- Elizabeth back thank you very much for
- 13:20
- your legal advice there I want to state
- 13:23
- farmer Jones out there what's that
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- Lionel Lionel Lionel Lyle was the first
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- one one of the first ones to come
- 13:30
- forward and offer his help and services
- 13:33
- so you know if this these are times
- 13:36
- where I don't you almost feel like it's
- 13:37
- a wonderful life you know oh well George
- 13:41
- it is nice to see the total 180 change
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- in your demeanor for the positive today
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- compared to my way down to the breakfast
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- area Brett right now you're definitely
- 13:54
- back to your former self you seem
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- empowered by the results of that
- 13:57
- pre-trial hearing I believe we've got
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- the prosecutor stepping out of the
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- building right now well we don't we
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- don't want to obviously pursue the case
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- we'd love to work out
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- we'd love to work the case out with the
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- state we'd love to resolve this in a
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- rational manner which I believe she will
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- do but if we do need to go to trial and
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- when you do need to remove to federal
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- courts to debate the federal issues that
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- are at stake here that we will do that
- 14:24
- and we might be coming to Cleveland yeah
- 14:27
- so federal court in Cleveland which by
- 14:30
- the way I want to compliment the FBI on
- 14:32
- the famous family secrets case where
- 14:35
- they busted the Mafia ring in Cleveland
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- and with the Teamsters and Jackie
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- presser and all that and busted the
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- Teamsters ring a long time ago and so I
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- this is not an indictment against our
- 14:47
- institutions at all this is just a
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- reminder and a check on the
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- constitutional protections you know of
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- our original amendments not only of the
- 14:56
- Bill of Rights the first 10 amendments
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- all have to do 8 of them I believe had
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- to do with Criminal Procedure of the
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- first 25 I think 18 of them have to do
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- with critical procedure because our
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- founding fathers wanted these
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- protections in place they wanted to make
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- sure that it's nothing else they got
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- right they got criminals of procedure
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- right the founding fathers didn't put
- 15:14
- these things in place because they were
- 15:16
- contrivances or nice-to-haves or whatnot
- 15:19
- they made sure that these were the first
- 15:21
- things that citizens were guaranteed and
- 15:24
- so if we weren't going to turn our back
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- we're just gonna just bold today on the
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- Constitution we would be turning our
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- backs on everything we talked about on
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- crowdsourced the truth and that just
- 15:32
- can't happen we just need to make a
- 15:34
- stand here again mr. McCain this is not
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- a vendetta I
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- if you don't like me that's fine I have
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- no I've no ill will at all toward the
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- FBI I just want a reasonable check
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- against the power of the federal
- 15:49
- government that's all this is about
- 15:50
- so the pre-trial hearing it really
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- seemed to go as smoothly as it could
- 15:54
- have possibly gone you presented your
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- evidence and now it's on to the actual
- 15:59
- trial September 12th yep and I would
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- like to we're gonna motion for dismissal
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- today based on the lack of production of
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- the different discoveries that we asked
- 16:08
- for we didn't get the radio calls we
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- didn't get the phone calls and when you
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- say motion for dismissal what does that
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- mean the trial goes away it means that
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- if new venue discovery you have a chance
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- to produce the things that you need to
- 16:18
- present a defense you don't get to you
- 16:21
- know be held in a holding tank until
- 16:24
- they decide to bring you out to try you
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- like you know a Soviet state in the old
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- Soviet days you have a right to ask for
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- things in your defense so I have a right
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- to know when mr. white occur first
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- called from the first time mr. Comstock
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- okay because somehow a call went out to
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- the barbecue place that I was at somehow
- 16:45
- that happened far before I ever even
- 16:47
- went to the hotel how do we know that
- 16:49
- from the police report on the police the
- 16:50
- police is on report ow okay the
- 16:52
- computer-aided dispatch reports say that
- 16:54
- Wow I have not presented any any
- 16:57
- evidence yet I'm just working with the
- 16:59
- prosecution with the state's evidence at
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- this point so that is the beginning
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- that's the cause in fact it is a cause
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- in facts in sync wha
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- no I believe
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- and that we can't separate that I
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- believe I don't I don't really believe
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- the state is going to try to separate
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- those two things when they realize the
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- law here but if they do we're gonna keep
- 17:22
- reminding about that burger and move to
- 17:23
- federal court if they cheat if they
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- tries because these constitutional
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- perceptive protections are too important
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- it may be a small case for me and maybe
- 17:30
- a small case res ain't though maybe a
- 17:32
- small case for Ohio even but it's a big
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- case in a much larger sense that says
- 17:36
- I'm much far-reaching we talked about
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- this this morning we don't think that
- 17:40
- JTTF the Joint Terrorism Task Force has
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- ever been tested before I was involved
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- in a case in Portland where we were
- 17:47
- testing the illegal wiretapping 2-12
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- triple three provisions of illegally
- 17:51
- wiretapping and then constructing a case
- 17:52
- against mohammed mohammed this is
- 17:54
- nothing to do with anti-muslim or
- 17:57
- anything like that it's national
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- security so but I believe this is the
- 18:00
- first test of JTTF I don't think most
- 18:02
- people even know what the Joint
- 18:04
- Terrorism Task Force is or what fusion
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- centers are so this case will bring
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- light to those things that we've put in
- 18:09
- to help ourselves to protect ourselves
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- from 9/11 that we thought were the right
- 18:14
- thing that then turned around somehow on
- 18:17
- the people themselves like it did in
- 18:19
- Mexico with DHS like it did in Vietnam
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- with the Phoenix program and that's the
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- most important thing here is to shed
- 18:26
- light shed light not heat shed light on
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- this situation so people understand the
- 18:31
- decisions that they've made and so they
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- can make course corrections as we move
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- forward so you might say this is a small
- 18:37
- case for George but a giant case for
- 18:39
- George kind that's what I meant that's
- 18:46
- what I meant all right George well we
- 18:48
- want to say thanks to all of the
- 18:49
- scrunchies that came out to see you here
- 18:51
- in Zanesville one two three what a party
- 18:58
- with you all right everybody we'll catch
- 19:00
- you later
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- nice right now
- 19:11
- yeah in this form and you're getting the
- 19:13
- job done a beta time
- 19:15
- I love you you were there
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- I
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- yeah
- 19:34
- Oh Youngstown okay my grandfather's okay
- 19:37
- Steve could see and usually and I didn't
- 19:39
- meet you right there tell us where
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- you're from Oh
- 19:46
- Oh fat people one of my jurors what you
- 19:49
- only think one here's the interesting
- 19:51
- thing about the jury process it may as
- 19:53
- well you know tried some light on that
- 19:57
- you only need in this country there's
- 19:59
- gonna be probably six jurors for this
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- because but they'll be compared there'll
- 20:06
- be a panel of probably fifty jurors to
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- pick from
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- I'll pick I'll have a chance to question
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- and this is of your right in with due
- 20:13
- process in the United States
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- you can pick ask a few questions to pick
- 20:16
- yours yours you could strike jurors as
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- well that you've received a prejudicial
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- or someone's the notice she took a step
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- back when you threatened a striker
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- [Laughter]
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- strike but this is this is the process
- 20:33
- of fair your you have the right to a
- 20:36
- trial by your peers for an impartial
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- jury that I believe is the gonna have to
- 20:41
- find a lot of six foot eight people yeah
- 20:43
- so and the thing is you don't need six
- 20:46
- jurors the state must prove beyond a
- 20:49
- shadow of a doubt
- 20:51
- all I need to do is show reasonable
- 20:53
- doubt I don't have more than reason
- 20:55
- without I have down but their own
- 20:56
- testimony so I don't know if I need to
- 20:59
- do anything beyond discovered in terms
- 21:01
- of bringing in witnesses I would
- 21:02
- obviously like this subpoena mr.
- 21:05
- Whittaker and then get those facts I
- 21:08
- think there's a very Jamaican case I
- 21:09
- don't believe that
- 21:13
- pick fair-minded yours
- 21:17
- like I said there's a war memorial right
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- up there at that courthouse for the
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- world war two my father fought here in
- 21:24
- Ohio 37th division 145th regiment they
- 21:29
- had more they were not most highly
- 21:31
- decorated unit in the in the 37th
- 21:34
- division from Cleveland yeah Cleveland
- 21:38
- Cleveland represent clearly represent my
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- father knew the medic that was killed
- 21:43
- who was pulling the third guy back I
- 21:46
- mean it's right out of the movies on New
- 21:48
- Georgia untold story of the 145th
- 21:51
- regiment 37th division Guadalcanal
- 21:53
- Bougainville near Georgia so this is not
- 21:58
- something I come to Ohio as an outsider
- 22:00
- this is my home I'm from Cleveland I was
- 22:03
- born in Mount Sinai Hospital my I went
- 22:06
- to Miami of Ohio and not too far from
- 22:09
- here my first basketball game was it
- 22:11
- that in Columbus yeah it's her be waived
- 22:14
- you block my first day yeah you know
- 22:16
- George there's an amazing amount of I
- 22:25
- had this hook shot that I nobody ever
- 22:28
- blocked in high school at her be just
- 22:29
- like waited on it like it was a tennis
- 22:31
- services through it Randy Ayers George
- 22:33
- there's an amazing amount of positive
- 22:34
- comments coming in on the live stream I
- 22:37
- want to say something about Randy Ayers
- 22:38
- who I believe it was the first black
- 22:39
- coach ever in the Big Ten and it ready
- 22:42
- came under tremendous pressure to turn a
- 22:44
- program around because they had a proud
- 22:46
- tradition and with Herbie waves there I
- 22:48
- they were fantastic he was the fastest
- 22:50
- guy on the team at 611
- 22:52
- he's very first game in Ohio 14 years in
- 22:56
- the pros yes I agree yeah coach
- 23:03
- red ears nose B probably is better than
- 23:06
- any person and you know Randy if you'd
- 23:09
- like me to character witness I'd love to
- 23:11
- have you there oh Henry who was my
- 23:12
- ultimate charioteer such Joe Perry all
- 23:15
- my coaches in college I'd love for you
- 23:16
- to be to be come forward I was here I
- 23:20
- don't think the prosecution realized
- 23:22
- this I was here to do two cases here
- 23:24
- that were specific to Ohio when was the
- 23:26
- pike County murders the rodent murders
- 23:28
- which I had done several stories about
- 23:31
- the other one was arnelle trucking and
- 23:33
- the illegal trucking of tobacco illegal
- 23:36
- tobacco products which frequently is
- 23:38
- used also in drug ratlines
- 23:40
- so those were two stories I was here I
- 23:42
- met with a police officer that night at
- 23:44
- the barbecue to collect the evidence
- 23:46
- about that I was about ready to go on
- 23:48
- also to Springfield Ohio looking at
- 23:50
- using our military facilities for
- 23:52
- bringing in drugs into wright-patterson
- 23:54
- Air Force Base I'd were I've been
- 23:56
- working with a contact there I won't
- 24:00
- mention too much more about now but
- 24:02
- there's three different stories I was
- 24:04
- working as well as opiate target opiate
- 24:07
- targeting
- 24:08
- you were all from Ohio you know what's
- 24:10
- happened yes you know what's happening
- 24:12
- these kids are being targeted I've sat
- 24:14
- in here for two nights and these kids
- 24:16
- we're who should be over there at the
- 24:18
- Chevrolet factory or the Ford factory
- 24:20
- making stuff are our serving time in
- 24:23
- this place because of go ahead president
- 24:26
- Trump's gonna have a an emergency
- 24:29
- meeting today I saw I just heard that on
- 24:30
- Fox about George's case to 24%
- 24:40
- underreported yes the gal I'm working
- 24:43
- with in Springfield is she where's the
- 24:46
- media right now well right here this
- 24:48
- will we are in you believe it or not
- 24:49
- this will go around the world this
- 24:51
- people all over the world especially the
- 24:54
- english-speaking nations but you got
- 24:55
- Germany yeah people in Russia you have
- 24:57
- people in Sweden talked to me this
- 24:58
- morning people in Norway talk to me
- 25:00
- people in because I was up early
- 25:03
- Scotland and so forth UK Ireland Ritchie
- 25:07
- Alan who has been great we want to take
- 25:09
- the case to the world we don't want to
- 25:11
- just make this case for the United
- 25:13
- States because the United States has
- 25:14
- always been a beacon of freedom it's
- 25:15
- always been a beacon of civil rights and
- 25:17
- this is I thank the person this morning
- 25:20
- from England for the Magna Carta I said
- 25:22
- thank you you you led the way and now we
- 25:24
- picked it up with this with this
- 25:26
- constitution of ours and this is an
- 25:28
- important point
- 25:29
- that all nations of the world should
- 25:31
- have these basic rights because our
- 25:33
- Constitution is a form that the rest of
- 25:36
- the world can draft their their their
- 25:38
- constitutions around let's bring that
- 25:39
- back let's forget about these military
- 25:41
- political dictatorship let's create
- 25:43
- forget about the George Soros
- 25:44
- destabilization and creating DynCorp
- 25:47
- military brat lines and so forth that's
- 25:49
- just that's old and tired let's try
- 25:52
- something new let's try democracy you
- 25:55
- know George we've got an international
- 25:56
- audience in the comments right now we've
- 25:58
- got everybody here outside the
- 25:59
- Zanesville Municipal Court building
- 26:01
- there are a ton of positive comments
- 26:04
- coming in I do have to say the one
- 26:07
- negative criticism is that many people
- 26:09
- wish you would have worn the pod father
- 26:11
- shirt yeah well you know I think you
- 26:14
- have you have a responsibility as a
- 26:16
- foreign agent now John Podesta is a
- 26:19
- foreign agent now I'm not sure about how
- 26:21
- all of his friends register themselves
- 26:24
- the reason why we have the foreign agent
- 26:26
- Registration Act is so people don't pay
- 26:28
- to play so people don't trade away our
- 26:30
- resources and come here to all by
- 26:33
- oh we're gonna take the oil and have
- 26:34
- some oil shake you know do a partnership
- 26:37
- a limited partnership with some
- 26:39
- politician that's not the idea the oil
- 26:42
- of Ohio I spoke to oil guys to support
- 26:44
- on gas guys run pipelines
- 26:46
- that's great but those are the resources
- 26:48
- of Ohio for Ohio to educate the kids of
- 26:51
- Ohio for
- 26:52
- like steve-o's Hugo
- 26:55
- an operative or two
- 26:57
- my favorite college in Ohio Shakespeare
- 26:59
- everyday
- 27:01
- so that's you know and I did a piece
- 27:04
- about this
- 27:05
- there is a part of those dirt farmers
- 27:07
- that came here the german dirt farmers
- 27:09
- and people are looking for a better life
- 27:10
- they got to Ohio and they said they
- 27:12
- looked at that black dirt they said
- 27:14
- we're done we're staying right here
- 27:15
- because the farmland was so great and
- 27:18
- you think oh they got dirt on their
- 27:19
- overalls they don't have aspirations for
- 27:20
- their kids well I'll tell you something
- 27:21
- they do you go to places like Wittenberg
- 27:23
- you go to places like Overland you get a
- 27:26
- sense of no we can do Shakespeare with
- 27:28
- anybody we can talk about ports and all
- 27:31
- this legal stuff and our common law
- 27:32
- system and all the literature I learned
- 27:36
- all my literature here in Ohio so that
- 27:38
- is what we may have dirt on our overalls
- 27:41
- but we have aspirations for our kids our
- 27:43
- kids are not they are worth more than to
- 27:46
- be opiate targeted and to be you know I
- 27:50
- don't know what's happening I had a lot
- 27:51
- of these hospitals with the between 2:00
- 27:53
- a.m. and 6:00 a.m. at night so that's
- 27:56
- what this is about you know and I know
- 27:58
- Dennis said don't make a federal case
- 28:00
- out of it but really it is a federal
- 28:01
- case it's made a federal case out of
- 28:03
- itself George with that I think we
- 28:05
- should bid adieu to all of our friends
- 28:07
- here online and we will catch up with
- 28:09
- everybody later thank you I'm ready for
- 28:12
- the stretch 1 2 3
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