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Skill IronMON ban list update

Nov 20th, 2023 (edited)
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  1. BANNED:
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  3. Flamethrower -- Extremely powerful move at every stage of the game that overly simplifies decision making. Fire types don't have to think hard about using this, and Fire types in general dominate the metagame too heavily because of it. Banning it introduces a variety of alternative best moves for Fire types (Fire Punch, Flame Wheel, Eruption, Weather Ball, Ice Beam, Extrasensory, and others).
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  5. Thunderbolt -- Similar to Flamethrower, this move is extremely powerful and belongs on nearly every special attacker's moveset. It is also a painfully obvious move tutor choice for the good Electric types, who have no secondary typing. Banning it introduces many alternatives for Electric types.
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  7. UNBANNED:
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  9. Ingrain -- Too similar to other moves/combinations that are unbanned (Giga Drain, Leech Life, Rain Dish). This move is never really broken since the recovery is minor in comparison to the damage taken each turn. Using it on a long fight may be a good decision, but it is also an expensive one, since you give up a valuable move slot while risking moves such as Perish Song. This move also acts as a hedge against bad healing item luck so fewer runs die to that.
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  11. CONSIDERING BANS ON:
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  13. Giga Drain -- It's probably a game-changing move for a lot of Pokemon, and it can make the Elite Four incredibly easy. Keeping such a low-PP move is expensive, but Grass is necessary coverage for many Pokemon and 60 power isn't nothing. The main reason to keep Giga Drain is to make Grass types usable.
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  15. Extrasensory -- Too much PP and too obvious a teach for Psychic types. Not a good move for E4 on most Pokemon, though.
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  17. Drill Peck -- Too much PP and coverage, and it might make physical attackers too dominant with Flamethrower and Thunderbolt banned. Its major downside is making contact.
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  19. CONSIDERING UNBANS ON:
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  21. Cut/Fly/Strength -- Weak moves that only help with managing PP for a few specific sections and simplifying the HM friend rule.
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  23. Leech Seed -- Similar to Ingrain, and only broken in very specific situations. The 90% accuracy and Grass immunity makes it tough to justify teaching.
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  25. NO LONGER CONSIDERING BANS ON:
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  27. Sleep Powder/Lovely Kiss -- They just aren't broken without Compoundeyes, and they require some strategy because of the high miss chance. And they aren't instant wins with Compoundeyes.
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