[18:54] <Eddy> At least the provinces within orcs range
[18:54] <Sasha> I disagree
[18:54] <Sasha> really, I do
[18:55] <Eddy> The fact was, no Orc feed on them
[18:55] <Eddy> For land
[18:55] <Sasha> that's not true
[18:55] <Eddy> It was
[18:56] <Eddy> Either way, that feed was not a successful one IMO
[18:56] <Eddy> Orcs did not grow from it
[18:56] <Sasha> which one are we talking about, the first run?
[18:56] <Eddy> Yea
[18:56] <Eddy> This one is a wave
[18:57] <Eddy> Not a feed
[18:59] <Sasha> From the orcs: rily got a learn, antthrax got a learn, yeast got a learn+TM, chobs got a learn
[18:59] <Sasha> in the first wave
[18:59] <Sasha> you sat out because you didn't have the offence to do a learn and didn't wanna TM
[18:59] <Eddy> But what they needed was land
[18:59] <Sasha> and plague had troops out from going rogue
[18:59] <Sasha> not rily
[19:00] <Sasha> anth could have land-grabbed, donno why he didn't
[19:00] <Sasha> foamy was awol
[19:00] <Eddy> Cos there were not good targets for tm
[19:00] <Eddy> That was my point
[19:00] <Sasha> that's not true
[19:00] <Sasha> damnit
[19:00] <Eddy> It's true
[19:01] <Eddy> Rily only learned cos he could not find good tm
[19:01] <Sasha> no, he explicitly asked me for a learn or plunder
[19:01] <Eddy> Cos there is no good tm
[19:01] <Sasha> even before we even started scanning for targets
[19:01] <Sasha> no, it was before that
[19:01] <Sasha> he was the biggest orc
[19:02] <Eddy> Ok
[19:02] <Eddy> Well I don't know why no land grab was made if there were land fat provinces
[19:03] <Sasha> yeast did TM
[19:03] <Eddy> One
[19:03] <Sasha> foamy had troops out
[19:03] <Sasha> you didn't even hit
[19:03] <Eddy> I didn't want to
[19:03] <Sasha> carlo I cannot account for, have been meaning to talk to him
[19:03] <Eddy> I needed plunder
[19:03] <Eddy> No good plunder for me
[19:04] <Sasha> well, that's a problem with feed waves, you cannot find it all
[19:04] <Sasha> although, there were lots of good stealing targets
[19:04] <Eddy> But plenty of others who needed land
[19:04] <Sasha> with low tpa and lots of gold
[19:04] <Eddy> Did not land grab
[19:04] <Sasha> no, not plenty eddy
[19:04] <Eddy> Look at our orcs
[19:05] <Eddy> Most need land to get their nw up
[19:05] <Sasha> I agree to a point
[19:06] <Sasha> I'd rather see all orcs +200 acres
[19:06] <Eddy> Sure
[19:06] <Sasha> but getting chobs and carlo to grow is nearly impossible. They like to be small and pumped
[19:06] <Eddy> But our feed targets have not been Orc friendly
[19:06] <Sasha> so, what's a orc-friendly feed?
[19:06] <Eddy> Ghettos
[19:07] <Sasha> you gotta agree, the targets we have been going for are as close to ghettoes you can come without resorting to hitting those 10 acre KD's
[19:07] <Eddy> Like 11:39
[19:08] <Eddy> But orcs need to hit without fear of retal
[19:08] <Eddy> To grow
[19:08] <Eddy> All the feed we have, there is a chance of retal
[19:08] <Sasha> there is always chanse of retal, or randoms
[19:09] <Eddy> Yes
[19:09] <Sasha> even if we feed on one ghetto, another will do randoms
[19:09] <Sasha> that wont stop
[19:09] <Eddy> Chance will decrease
[19:09] <Eddy> IMO
[19:09] <Sasha> setting up these waves where we are 99% certain they'll cf us are as close as we can get to free hits
[19:10] <Sasha> nothing stops you from hitting into KD's like 11:39 in between waves
[19:10] <Sasha> sure, harder for the non warriors
[19:10] <Sasha> but not impossible
[19:10] <Eddy> You say that now Erik
[19:10] <Eddy> Anyway
[19:11] <Eddy> I'm really speaking for other player here
[19:11] <Eddy> It's just my interpretation
[19:11] <Sasha> it's ok
[19:11] <Eddy> I am all good
[19:11] <Eddy> Gotta go
[19:11] <Sasha> you've been the only one with complaints  aboout the wave targets, so it's only natural for me to speak with you first
[19:12] <Sasha> note taken though, you want 10-prov ghetto as next feed target next time around?
[19:12] <Eddy> I don't really have a problem personally
[19:12] <Eddy> Because I'm largely war ready
[19:12] <Sasha> I know you don't, you never really needed to rebuild
[19:12] <Sasha> you're in tip top condition
[19:12] <Eddy> I'm saying orcs will fees better with other targets
[19:13] <Eddy> I'm speaking for other orcs
[19:13] <Eddy> Because I have been there
[19:13] <Sasha> foamy/anth right?
[19:13] <Eddy> Sure
[19:13] <Sasha> those were the two in dire need of acres
[19:14] <Eddy> I think we need to have orcs at 1200+ acres
[19:14] <Sasha> I'm a little dissapointed foamy have slipped away, but anth made a great recoveery
[19:14] <Sasha> I agree
[19:14] <Sasha> and I will speak to eowlyn about it
[19:14] <Eddy> If we keep pushing for fast wars
[19:14] <Eddy> Orcs don't have time to grow big
[19:14] <Sasha> but for now I'm just glad we got everyone past 10000+ acres
[19:15] <Sasha> we're not really pushing for fast ones, our strategy are pretty slow
[19:15] <Sasha> 1000*
[19:15] <Sasha> our two latest wars have been people knocking on the door
[19:16] <Eddy> Yea
[19:17] <Eddy> Anyway
[19:17] <Eddy> I gotta go
[19:17] <Eddy> Take care
[19:17] <Sasha> take care mate