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- [music playing]
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- [indistinct chatter]
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- Operator:
- In commercial printing,
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- please press three.
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- For the newsroom,
- please press four.
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- For all other departments,
- please press...
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- [line ringing]
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- 00:00:23,719 --> 00:00:25,286
- Hi, I was wondering
- who I would speak to
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- regarding an upcoming
- local news event.
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- - [indistinct chatter]
- - Oh, okay, great.
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- 00:00:29,812 --> 00:00:31,452
- Uh, I'm calling
- from "Big News Publicity,"
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- and there's a rally
- that's taking place tomorrow
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- at the State Capitol
- by the Satanic Temple.
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- The Satanic Temple.
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- S... S as in Sam.
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- Great, thank you.
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- 00:00:49,484 --> 00:00:52,226
- And there you have it,
- and that was an ABC affiliate.
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- Man: Camera rolls.
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- Okay. [inhales, clears throat]
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- We thank you for coming
- to our convening.
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- Hail Satan.
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- Man: Not bad.
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- [both laughing]
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- Could you hold it
- for a beat longer?
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- Hail Satan.
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- Damn it. [mutters]
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- - [feedback echoing]
- - Man: Test, one, two.
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- Hey, how's it going?
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- - It's going fantastic.
- - Why are you here today?
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- We're here to spread
- a message of goodwill,
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- and benevolence,
- and open-mindedness,
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- - and free expression.
- - What is your name?
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- That's not important.
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- It's a beautiful day here
- at the State Capitol...
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- great day to be a Satanist...
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- great day to be a human being.
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- [clears throat] We honor
- Governor Rick Scott!
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- Hail Satan, Rick,
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- for providing us
- this opportunity
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- to make
- the Satanic clause clear
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- and make our presence known,
- and, uh...
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- Man:
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- I believe it,
- and I'm very excited about it.
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- [man yells indistinctly]
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- Reporter: A satanic temple
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- fully supports Florida Governor Rick Scott,
- who has been
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- pushing for prayer in public schools.
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- Jesus Christ became my savior
- at a very young age...
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- That's right,
- Satanists pushing for prayer
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- and backing
- a Tea Party favorite.
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- We spoke to one
- of the Satanists today
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- about why they support the law.
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- Lucien Greaves,
- and yes, that is the name
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- the gentleman gave us,
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- told us that the law
- would lead to, quote,
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- "A boom
- in religious diversity."
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- Basically, the argument
- being you open the door to God,
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- you open the door to Satan.
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- We're not what
- you think we are,
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- and we're here to...
- we're here to help people
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- understand that about us
- and also about themselves.
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- Man: What do you think
- of Rick Scott?
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- Think he's a great American.
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- Man:
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- - I do, and, uh...
- - Man:
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- No.
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- Hail Satan!
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- - Hail Satan.
- - Hail Satan.
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- Hail Satan!
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- [scattered clapping]
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- [feedback echoes]
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- Nicholas: It was awkward.
- it was messy,
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- and it was awesome.
- It was national news,
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- but more importantly,
- we realized
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- that we were on to something.
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- Woman: And where did the name
- "The Satanic Temple" come from?
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- Malcolm: When I was looking
- at all the different
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- Satanic organizations
- that existed,
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- uh, the name wasn't taken.
- [laughs]
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- Nicholas: The Rick Scott rally
- was a media stunt
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- to show the hypocrisy
- of what Rick Scott was doing,
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- and it required a spokesperson.
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- I didn't want to do it.
- [laughs]
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- He is the leader
- of the Satanic Temple,
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- and we're gonna be on the steps
- of the Capitol Building.
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- Man: Usually when I think
- of, like,
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- a gaggle of satanic,
- you know, worshippers,
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- I think of them wearing, like,
- the red hoods.
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- - Man 1: Yeah.
- - Man 2: Yeah.
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- Like,
- that's like the group color,
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- and then leader color would be,
- like, black, gray, brown.
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- Man: Oh, I like that.
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- Malcolm: When we first started,
- it was staged,
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- and there was
- an actor involved,
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- but very quickly, um,
- everything got real.
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- [indistinct chatter]
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- At the beginning,
- we didn't have the hubris
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- to think that we could start
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- a large global
- religious movement.
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- When the Satanic Temple
- got started,
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- I wanted to be sure
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- that Satanism
- was properly represented.
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- I very much felt
- that I was a Satanist,
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- but there was no need to kind
- of publicly advertise that.
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- Man: Lucien.
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- You excited?
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- Not yet.
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- Man: You excited?
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- No. I'm filled with angst.
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- I wanted somebody else
- to be the face of this,
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- but I... I found very quickly
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- I didn't want somebody else
- to be the voice of this.
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- God and Satan work
- in mysterious ways,
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- and we're not really sure,
- you know,
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- how all this is gonna manifest.
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- Lucien: It became very clear
- that there was
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- no amount of coaching
- I could give somebody
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- who wasn't authentically
- attached to Satanism
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- that would make them a credible
- interview subject on the topic.
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- Man: Why'd you guys pick, uh,
- Governor Scott...
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- Lucien: When it became my face
- and my voice,
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- it needed to be everything
- I believed in and stood by,
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- or it could not be at all,
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- so that's when
- everything changed.
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- Woman: We will begin
- with Lucien. All right, Lucien.
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- So is it, like,
- Lucien as in Lucifer?
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- Is that where... is that
- why you're called that?
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- Sure, as you like.
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- - [woman laughs]
- - As you like.
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- I don't kn...
- Like, is that your birth name?
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- - No, it's not.
- - Okay.
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- So, what is it that first drew
- you to the Satanic Temple?
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- Well, I... I helped co-found
- the Satanic Temple.
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- Why?
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- Uh, why?
- Because it is an embodiment
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- of my deeply-held beliefs,
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- and I think there's a distinct
- need for a counterbalance
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- against the dominant religious
- privilege in America today.
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- What are the deeply-held beliefs
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- that drew you
- to the Satanic Temple?
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- Uh, essentially, we view, uh,
- Satan as a symbolic embodiment
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- of the ultimate rebel
- against tyranny.
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- Nicholas: Once you realize how
- the media is constructed,
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- it becomes incredibly easy
- to manipulate.
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- [news theme plays]
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- Good evening to you,
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- at six o'clock
- I'm Chip Scarborough.
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- Well, the owner
- of a Meridian cemetery
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- has already said
- he plans to pursue charges
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- against members
- of New York's Satanic Temple,
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- and now police
- are investigating
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- the unusual ritual.
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- This you have to see
- to believe.
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- A group of devil worshippers
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- giving Westboro Baptist Church
- a run for their money.
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- God hates fags.
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- Except you repent,
- you shall all likewise perish,
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- and God is not running
- out of room in hell.
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- 00:08:26,114 --> 00:08:28,116
- Nicholas: How do you fuck
- with Fred Phelps?
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- Well... you fuck with his mom.
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- Woman: A group from New York's
- Satanic Temple made the trip
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- to Meridian to protest
- the Westboro Baptist Church.
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- They performed a ritual
- they called Pink Mass
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- on the grave
- of Catherine Johnston,
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- the mother of Westboro
- founder Fred Phelps, Jr.
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- The ceremony involved
- two same-sex couples
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- kissing over her grave.
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- They then declared
- Catherine Johnston
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- a lesbian in the afterlife.
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- Malcolm: One of the things
- that I wanted to play on is,
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- you know,
- the Mormons have the belief
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- that they can baptize the dead
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- and do
- this postmortem conversion,
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- so I proposed that every time
- a same-sex couple kisses,
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- that she's pleasured
- in the afterlife.
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- You know, which I took
- from "It's a Wonderful Life."
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- You know,
- "Every time a bell rings,
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- an angel gets its wings."
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- Every time a bell rings,
- an angel gets his wings.
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- That's right.
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- Lucien: And then developing,
- as these things do,
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- into the obvious idea,
- which is putting your testicles
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- on the tombstone of the
- founder's mother's grave.
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- It's remarkable,
- it hadn't happened before.
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- It is an unusual crime
- that we haven't come across,
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- to my knowledge, in a while.
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- Malcolm: There was a desperate
- attempt to figure out
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- - what to charge us with.
- - [woman giggles]
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- The headline read, "Police
- Want to Arrest," you know,
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- "Satanists
- who Turn the Dead Gay."
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- [speaking in Latin]
- Satana, blessed be.
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- Blasphemy isn't just
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- directed at other people
- to offend them.
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- Blasphemy is very much
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- a declaration
- of personal independence,
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- 00:10:05,343 --> 00:10:09,173
- and I don't mind, of course,
- when people are offended.
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- 00:10:09,347 --> 00:10:11,872
- [bell tolling]
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- 00:10:18,661 --> 00:10:21,272
- Woman: It's a city known
- for its witch trials,
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- 00:10:21,446 --> 00:10:24,014
- but the newest neighbors
- on Bridge Street in Salem
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- are Satanists, the religious
- and political organization
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- 00:10:28,018 --> 00:10:31,195
- choosing this spot
- for its international headquarters.
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- 00:10:31,805 --> 00:10:33,645
- Man: According to the
- Satanic Temple's website,
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- 00:10:33,676 --> 00:10:36,331
- the group is all
- about religious pluralism.
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- 00:10:40,248 --> 00:10:42,729
- Lucien: What we want to do
- is force people
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- to evaluate their notions
- of the United States
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- 00:10:45,645 --> 00:10:47,298
- being a Christian nation.
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- 00:10:47,472 --> 00:10:49,997
- It's not.
- We're a secular nation.
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- 00:10:50,214 --> 00:10:52,347
- We are supposed to be
- a democratic,
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- pluralistic nation.
- We are supposed to be a nation
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- 00:10:56,046 --> 00:10:57,526
- that doesn't allow
- the government
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- to dictate what is appropriate
- religious expression.
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- 00:11:06,535 --> 00:11:08,363
- The donors have to wait
- to find out
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- 00:11:08,537 --> 00:11:10,495
- whether those donations
- are tax-deductible
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- 00:11:10,670 --> 00:11:12,541
- once there's a ruling. Uh...
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- Early on it was agreed
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- that Lucien would be
- the spokesperson
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- 00:11:17,328 --> 00:11:19,722
- and that I would keep
- in the background.
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- 00:11:21,898 --> 00:11:24,335
- Here's our...
- our humble offices.
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- 00:11:24,509 --> 00:11:27,382
- This is Malcolm's desk,
- and this is mine.
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- 00:11:29,036 --> 00:11:30,254
- Sorry about the mess.
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- 00:11:30,428 --> 00:11:33,605
- - [object clatters]
- - [laughs]
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- 00:11:34,781 --> 00:11:38,219
- This is, uh, where we're going
- to have the shop.
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- 00:11:38,915 --> 00:11:44,051
- This is where people will be
- able to buy prints or T-shirts
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- 00:11:44,225 --> 00:11:45,879
- or whatever else
- we have on sale.
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- A lot of what we are doing
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- 00:11:50,753 --> 00:11:52,668
- is going to direct people's perception
- 227
- 00:11:52,842 --> 00:11:55,497
- of what Satanism
- will be hereafter...
- 228
- 00:11:56,585 --> 00:12:00,284
- but the Satanic Temple
- did not invent modern Satanism.
- 229
- 00:12:00,458 --> 00:12:04,767
- - [audience applauding]
- - [music playing]
- 230
- 00:12:04,941 --> 00:12:08,815
- Host: You see now the Reverend
- Anton Szandor LaVey,
- 231
- 00:12:09,119 --> 00:12:10,904
- who is the founder
- and high priest
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- 00:12:11,078 --> 00:12:12,732
- of the First Church of Satan,
- 233
- 00:12:12,949 --> 00:12:14,821
- who uses,
- as somewhat of a credo,
- 234
- 00:12:14,995 --> 00:12:16,170
- this timeless quote,
- 235
- 00:12:16,605 --> 00:12:19,826
- "Remember,
- evil backwards spells live."
- 236
- 00:12:20,174 --> 00:12:22,785
- [audience laughing]
- 237
- 00:12:22,959 --> 00:12:24,656
- Somehow,
- that never occurred to me.
- 238
- 00:12:25,222 --> 00:12:26,833
- The most interesting thing
- about Satanism
- 239
- 00:12:27,007 --> 00:12:31,663
- is that people...
- willingly choose to identify
- 240
- 00:12:31,838 --> 00:12:35,015
- with an adversarial being.
- 241
- 00:12:36,146 --> 00:12:37,146
- What are you doing?
- 242
- 00:12:37,626 --> 00:12:39,106
- I'm giving a blessing
- to the audience.
- 243
- 00:12:39,236 --> 00:12:40,516
- I don't think
- they appreciate it.
- 244
- 00:12:41,021 --> 00:12:42,215
- - They were throwing it back.
- - [audience laughing]
- 245
- 00:12:42,239 --> 00:12:44,328
- This is the sign of the horns.
- 246
- 00:12:44,502 --> 00:12:46,374
- Jesper: It's a founding aspect
- of Satanism
- 247
- 00:12:46,548 --> 00:12:47,941
- that you troll people.
- 248
- 00:12:48,419 --> 00:12:50,659
- That's the original troll,
- isn't it, is to say to people,
- 249
- 00:12:50,770 --> 00:12:53,337
- "Yeah, I'm a Satanist,"
- and see what happens to people.
- 250
- 00:12:53,511 --> 00:12:56,253
- I mean, they just... they faint,
- or they get angry,
- 251
- 00:12:56,427 --> 00:12:59,953
- or whatever happens,
- and then you move on from there.
- 252
- 00:13:01,041 --> 00:13:02,694
- [man speaking
- in foreign language]
- 253
- 00:13:02,869 --> 00:13:04,435
- [all speaking
- in a foreign language]
- 254
- 00:13:04,609 --> 00:13:07,395
- - Hail Satan.
- - All: Hail Satan.
- 255
- 00:13:07,569 --> 00:13:09,658
- [organ playing]
- 256
- 00:13:09,832 --> 00:13:11,703
- Anton: Satan is simply a word
- 257
- 00:13:11,878 --> 00:13:15,838
- that means the adversary
- or the opposition
- 258
- 00:13:16,143 --> 00:13:17,622
- or the accuser.
- 259
- 00:13:18,014 --> 00:13:21,452
- It doesn't necessarily mean
- evil, or brutality, or cruelty.
- 260
- 00:13:21,670 --> 00:13:23,280
- It simply means the dissenter.
- 261
- 00:13:23,454 --> 00:13:25,892
- Well, I had a man
- come to me the other day,
- 262
- 00:13:26,066 --> 00:13:28,111
- and he said
- that it was just terrible.
- 263
- 00:13:28,285 --> 00:13:29,983
- When... when he joined
- the Satanic Church,
- 264
- 00:13:30,157 --> 00:13:32,637
- he was masturbating
- just about every day,
- 265
- 00:13:33,160 --> 00:13:34,509
- and now he's masturbating
- 266
- 00:13:34,683 --> 00:13:36,163
- two and sometimes
- three times a day...
- 267
- 00:13:36,250 --> 00:13:37,836
- - [all laughing]
- - ...and he's very happy,
- 268
- 00:13:37,860 --> 00:13:39,420
- much happier
- than he's ever been before.
- 269
- 00:13:39,470 --> 00:13:40,926
- - Man: That's an improvement.
- - [all laughing]
- 270
- 00:13:40,950 --> 00:13:43,126
- I always get a lift
- when I come here.
- 271
- 00:13:43,648 --> 00:13:46,173
- I suppose like other people do
- when they go to church,
- 272
- 00:13:46,347 --> 00:13:49,350
- which I haven't done
- for many years now.
- 273
- 00:13:49,872 --> 00:13:55,922
- [solemn drumming]
- 274
- 00:13:56,183 --> 00:13:57,543
- Jesper:
- Before the Church of Satan,
- 275
- 00:13:58,098 --> 00:14:00,709
- every time you had someone
- who was called a Satanist,
- 276
- 00:14:00,883 --> 00:14:03,581
- that was because of attribution
- by other people.
- 277
- 00:14:04,017 --> 00:14:05,975
- - Cover her face...
- - Woman: No!
- 278
- 00:14:06,149 --> 00:14:07,847
- ...with the mask of Satan.
- 279
- 00:14:10,371 --> 00:14:12,852
- Jesper: But the Church of Satan
- is a watershed moment
- 280
- 00:14:13,026 --> 00:14:15,071
- in the history of Satanism
- because that's where
- 281
- 00:14:15,245 --> 00:14:17,334
- the attribution
- of a Satanic identity
- 282
- 00:14:17,508 --> 00:14:20,990
- is not just something that
- some people do to others.
- 283
- 00:14:21,251 --> 00:14:23,688
- It's something that people do
- to themselves.
- 284
- 00:14:26,953 --> 00:14:27,953
- One of the differences
- 285
- 00:14:28,476 --> 00:14:29,756
- between the early Church
- of Satan
- 286
- 00:14:30,391 --> 00:14:32,325
- and the Satanic Temple,
- that the early Church of Satan
- 287
- 00:14:32,349 --> 00:14:34,003
- was much more
- of a rat pack carnival.
- 288
- 00:14:34,699 --> 00:14:37,964
- They were never political,
- whereas the Satanic Temple
- 289
- 00:14:38,138 --> 00:14:42,838
- is actually refining Satanism
- and making it into a new tool,
- 290
- 00:14:43,012 --> 00:14:45,928
- a new weapon
- in the ongoing culture wars.
- 291
- 00:14:56,025 --> 00:14:58,288
- Woman:
- 292
- 00:15:29,145 --> 00:15:31,800
- If you're godless,
- free-thinking,
- 293
- 00:15:32,322 --> 00:15:34,846
- and a rebel,
- then you are a Satanist
- 294
- 00:15:35,021 --> 00:15:37,806
- in the eyes of many
- in our community and society,
- 295
- 00:15:37,980 --> 00:15:39,764
- and certainly by people
- in your government...
- 296
- 00:15:41,375 --> 00:15:42,506
- whether you like it or not.
- 297
- 00:15:45,509 --> 00:15:48,034
- Before I decided
- that I was a Satanist,
- 298
- 00:15:48,208 --> 00:15:49,731
- it was really the Bible
- that said,
- 299
- 00:15:49,905 --> 00:15:51,385
- "This is what
- a Satanist is like."
- 300
- 00:15:52,777 --> 00:15:54,910
- I attended church
- when I was a kid,
- 301
- 00:15:55,084 --> 00:15:57,652
- and funny story
- is that I played Eve
- 302
- 00:15:57,826 --> 00:16:00,350
- in a musical in middle school.
- [chuckles]
- 303
- 00:16:03,049 --> 00:16:04,267
- The story of Adam and Eve
- 304
- 00:16:04,528 --> 00:16:07,531
- is the story
- of Eve's original sin.
- 305
- 00:16:08,271 --> 00:16:11,971
- Eve was very curious,
- as her nature was as a woman.
- 306
- 00:16:13,668 --> 00:16:16,279
- [snake rattling]
- 307
- 00:16:16,627 --> 00:16:18,760
- Jex: The Devil appeared
- in the form of a snake
- 308
- 00:16:19,326 --> 00:16:21,937
- and offers
- the fruit of enlightenment.
- 309
- 00:16:22,938 --> 00:16:26,072
- - [whispering eerily]
- - We are taught to fear that,
- 310
- 00:16:26,246 --> 00:16:28,311
- but at the same time,
- it seems the most liberating,
- 311
- 00:16:28,335 --> 00:16:30,424
- because if we did not have
- that opportunity,
- 312
- 00:16:30,598 --> 00:16:32,469
- we would have to be
- in total servitude
- 313
- 00:16:32,643 --> 00:16:33,949
- without free choice,
- 314
- 00:16:34,254 --> 00:16:37,257
- and ultimate servitude
- is slavery. [chuckles]
- 315
- 00:16:37,431 --> 00:16:39,476
- Reframing it in the light
- of it being salvation
- 316
- 00:16:39,650 --> 00:16:41,478
- is probably
- one of the greatest tricks
- 317
- 00:16:41,652 --> 00:16:43,524
- ever played on humankind.
- 318
- 00:16:43,698 --> 00:16:45,178
- [birds chirping]
- 319
- 00:16:46,396 --> 00:16:49,138
- [serpent whispering eerily]
- 320
- 00:16:51,140 --> 00:16:57,755
- - [apple crunches]
- - [chorus vociferating solemnly]
- 321
- 00:17:06,286 --> 00:17:09,289
- Jex: Satanism is about embracing
- that Satanic status
- 322
- 00:17:09,463 --> 00:17:11,726
- rather than being controlled
- by it.
- 323
- 00:17:13,510 --> 00:17:15,251
- After I learned
- about the Satanic Temple,
- 324
- 00:17:15,425 --> 00:17:17,949
- I set up a time
- to meet with Lucien.
- 325
- 00:17:21,605 --> 00:17:22,725
- Throughout the conversation,
- 326
- 00:17:23,346 --> 00:17:24,986
- I realized that we have
- very similar ideas
- 327
- 00:17:25,131 --> 00:17:28,656
- of what contemporary Satanism
- was evolving to be.
- 328
- 00:17:30,571 --> 00:17:34,836
- [thunder rumbling]
- 329
- 00:17:35,010 --> 00:17:36,838
- Jex: The Devil directly
- challenged God...
- 330
- 00:17:38,144 --> 00:17:39,797
- so as a Satanist,
- I believe that
- 331
- 00:17:39,971 --> 00:17:43,453
- directly confronting injustice
- and corrupt authority
- 332
- 00:17:44,019 --> 00:17:45,977
- is an expression
- of one's Satanic faith.
- 333
- 00:17:49,111 --> 00:17:53,202
- And I believe activism
- is a Satanic practice.
- 334
- 00:17:55,770 --> 00:17:59,817
- [crowd hollering]
- 335
- 00:17:59,991 --> 00:18:02,559
- Jex: Traditionally, Satanists
- practiced very privately,
- 336
- 00:18:02,733 --> 00:18:04,039
- you know, closed doors,
- 337
- 00:18:04,213 --> 00:18:06,085
- black candles,
- black metal music.
- 338
- 00:18:07,695 --> 00:18:09,827
- But, with the
- Satanic philosophy
- 339
- 00:18:10,001 --> 00:18:11,655
- being one where
- Satan represents
- 340
- 00:18:11,829 --> 00:18:13,918
- rebellion
- against arbitrary authority,
- 341
- 00:18:14,441 --> 00:18:17,748
- we believe it required a level
- of political participation.
- 342
- 00:18:17,922 --> 00:18:19,359
- We are Satanists.
- 343
- 00:18:20,751 --> 00:18:22,362
- We are also Americans.
- 344
- 00:18:22,971 --> 00:18:24,407
- We are just as powerful
- 345
- 00:18:24,625 --> 00:18:26,757
- as those who work
- in this institution here.
- 346
- 00:18:26,931 --> 00:18:28,281
- Man:
- 347
- 00:18:29,499 --> 00:18:33,590
- We do not seek followers.
- We are seeking collaborators,
- 348
- 00:18:34,243 --> 00:18:37,725
- individuals for a visionary
- Satanic alliance,
- 349
- 00:18:38,247 --> 00:18:41,076
- leaders of the new American era.
- 350
- 00:18:41,250 --> 00:18:48,127
- - [crowd cheering]
- - [music playing]
- 351
- 00:18:49,867 --> 00:18:51,987
- Jex: I think that we need to go
- into the public sphere
- 352
- 00:18:52,043 --> 00:18:54,307
- and announce ourselves
- without shame.
- 353
- 00:18:54,568 --> 00:18:57,353
- - Hail Satan.
- - Crowd: Hail Satan.
- 354
- 00:18:57,527 --> 00:19:00,617
- - Hail Satan.
- - Crowd: Hail Satan!
- 355
- 00:19:01,401 --> 00:19:04,099
- Satanic Temple is mostly an idea
- 356
- 00:19:04,273 --> 00:19:07,407
- between a handful of people
- that had potential,
- 357
- 00:19:07,581 --> 00:19:10,932
- and the problem was how do we
- engage more individuals
- 358
- 00:19:11,106 --> 00:19:12,977
- and how do we make it,
- you know, take off?
- 359
- 00:19:14,631 --> 00:19:17,112
- It's one of the strangest
- stories to roil Boston
- 360
- 00:19:17,286 --> 00:19:19,854
- in recent memory.
- A Satanic Black Mass
- 361
- 00:19:20,028 --> 00:19:22,161
- was scheduled yesterday
- on Harvard's campus.
- 362
- 00:19:22,335 --> 00:19:24,337
- Here to talk
- more about the black mass
- 363
- 00:19:24,511 --> 00:19:26,774
- is Lucien Greaves.
- So, Lucien, just for people...
- 364
- 00:19:26,948 --> 00:19:29,472
- Nicholas: Lucien and Malcolm
- had gotten permission
- 365
- 00:19:29,646 --> 00:19:31,344
- to host a Black Mass...
- 366
- 00:19:32,606 --> 00:19:36,697
- in Boston. Uh, yeah,
- Boston's, uh,
- 367
- 00:19:36,914 --> 00:19:38,264
- it's pretty fucking Catholic.
- 368
- 00:19:39,961 --> 00:19:43,094
- A Black Mass is a grotesque,
- 369
- 00:19:43,269 --> 00:19:47,447
- deliberate perversion of
- a traditional Catholic mass,
- 370
- 00:19:47,621 --> 00:19:49,100
- you know, quite vulgar,
- 371
- 00:19:49,623 --> 00:19:51,581
- but then again,
- a mass is kind of vulgar too,
- 372
- 00:19:51,755 --> 00:19:52,915
- if you really think about it.
- 373
- 00:19:53,540 --> 00:19:54,908
- I mean, you're drinking blood
- and eating flesh?
- 374
- 00:19:54,932 --> 00:19:56,804
- I mean, that...
- that's just creepy.
- 375
- 00:19:57,413 --> 00:19:59,720
- They asked if I wanted
- to participate, so I flew out,
- 376
- 00:20:00,068 --> 00:20:01,588
- and there was a lot
- of miscommunication
- 377
- 00:20:01,678 --> 00:20:02,678
- in the beginning.
- 378
- 00:20:03,680 --> 00:20:05,961
- But I did the work of getting
- a lot of people to show up.
- 379
- 00:20:06,422 --> 00:20:08,032
- The punk scene was mobilized.
- 380
- 00:20:10,296 --> 00:20:12,646
- Lucien: We thought this would be
- a small-scale event.
- 381
- 00:20:12,863 --> 00:20:15,301
- A declaration of independence
- from superstition
- 382
- 00:20:15,518 --> 00:20:19,957
- was what it was meant to be,
- but the archdiocese in Boston
- 383
- 00:20:20,436 --> 00:20:22,569
- insisted
- on seeing it another way.
- 384
- 00:20:22,743 --> 00:20:29,619
- [indistinct chanting]
- 385
- 00:20:32,231 --> 00:20:33,471
- Reporter: Thousands of Catholic
- 386
- 00:20:33,797 --> 00:20:35,321
- in a more-than-hour-long
- procession
- 387
- 00:20:35,495 --> 00:20:36,931
- through the streets
- of Cambridge.
- 388
- 00:20:37,105 --> 00:20:40,717
- If someone was going to do
- a KKK reenactment
- 389
- 00:20:40,891 --> 00:20:43,154
- or a minstrel show
- or something like that,
- 390
- 00:20:43,329 --> 00:20:45,983
- I would hope the reaction
- would be outrage.
- 391
- 00:20:46,245 --> 00:20:48,029
- Man: This is definitely
- an act of hatred,
- 392
- 00:20:48,203 --> 00:20:50,553
- an act of bigotry
- directed towards the Church
- 393
- 00:20:50,727 --> 00:20:52,338
- and towards
- her faithful people.
- 394
- 00:20:52,512 --> 00:20:54,272
- We've actually got
- a little bit of a petition
- 395
- 00:20:54,383 --> 00:20:57,038
- if anybody watching
- would like to sign.
- 396
- 00:20:57,212 --> 00:20:59,997
- Nearly 60,000 names of people
- 397
- 00:21:00,171 --> 00:21:01,912
- who objected
- to this hateful event.
- 398
- 00:21:02,086 --> 00:21:03,673
- Jex: There was a sense
- that we should just give up
- 399
- 00:21:03,697 --> 00:21:05,438
- and cancel it,
- and I just remember feeling,
- 400
- 00:21:05,612 --> 00:21:07,918
- like this unexpected sense
- of justice and feel like,
- 401
- 00:21:08,092 --> 00:21:10,138
- "No, we can't."
- I ended up standing on a table
- 402
- 00:21:10,312 --> 00:21:11,550
- and saying, like, "We weren't...
- 403
- 00:21:11,574 --> 00:21:12,854
- We aren't gonna
- give in to this."
- 404
- 00:21:14,403 --> 00:21:16,231
- In just moments
- near Harvard University,
- 405
- 00:21:16,405 --> 00:21:17,754
- some very mean-spirited
- students
- 406
- 00:21:18,015 --> 00:21:19,815
- will be exercising
- their First Amendment right
- 407
- 00:21:19,843 --> 00:21:21,976
- by insulting Catholics
- not just at Harvard
- 408
- 00:21:22,150 --> 00:21:23,499
- but around the globe.
- 409
- 00:21:23,978 --> 00:21:25,825
- They're about to start a satanic mass,
- which they know
- 410
- 00:21:25,849 --> 00:21:28,461
- is deeply offensive to Catholics.
- What do I think?
- 411
- 00:21:28,635 --> 00:21:30,075
- Well, frankly,
- I think they're awful.
- 412
- 00:21:30,463 --> 00:21:31,463
- Nicholas: It was nuts.
- 413
- 00:21:32,116 --> 00:21:34,336
- It was way more
- than we had prepared for,
- 414
- 00:21:34,641 --> 00:21:38,079
- and hours before
- we were supposed to go on,
- 415
- 00:21:38,253 --> 00:21:39,689
- Harvard canceled it.
- 416
- 00:21:42,910 --> 00:21:44,670
- Jex: This event was, like,
- extremely chaotic,
- 417
- 00:21:44,781 --> 00:21:46,890
- and there was no plan for who
- is communicating with the media,
- 418
- 00:21:46,914 --> 00:21:48,805
- and, like, I kind of got thrown
- in front of a news camera.
- 419
- 00:21:48,829 --> 00:21:51,048
- A very unproductive
- conversation.
- 420
- 00:21:51,440 --> 00:21:53,050
- Uh, it's just very disappointing.
- 421
- 00:21:59,666 --> 00:22:02,016
- We're looking for a change
- of venue right now.
- 422
- 00:22:02,190 --> 00:22:04,018
- Um,
- we still have our participants.
- 423
- 00:22:04,192 --> 00:22:05,802
- We haven't quite worked it out
- yet.
- 424
- 00:22:06,412 --> 00:22:07,650
- Woman: Now apparently
- you've got this
- 425
- 00:22:07,674 --> 00:22:09,893
- sort of moving Black Mass.
- 426
- 00:22:10,067 --> 00:22:11,347
- Where do you think
- they're going?
- 427
- 00:22:11,852 --> 00:22:13,177
- Are they, like, going
- undercover or underground?
- 428
- 00:22:13,201 --> 00:22:14,481
- I mean, it's sort of interesting
- 429
- 00:22:14,985 --> 00:22:16,833
- because we've been chasing them
- for the last 90 minutes.
- 430
- 00:22:16,857 --> 00:22:19,297
- Well, hopefully... [chuckles]
- ...hopefully they're going away,
- 431
- 00:22:19,381 --> 00:22:20,461
- that's where they're going.
- 432
- 00:22:21,252 --> 00:22:25,822
- Some, uh, Chinese restaurant
- with a comedy club up top of it
- 433
- 00:22:25,996 --> 00:22:29,652
- just off campus agreed
- to host the Black Mass.
- 434
- 00:22:31,611 --> 00:22:32,655
- Reporter: The Black Mass,
- 435
- 00:22:33,221 --> 00:22:34,875
- featuring four individuals
- in hoods,
- 436
- 00:22:35,136 --> 00:22:37,136
- one man in a white suit,
- a cape, and a horned mask,
- 437
- 00:22:37,225 --> 00:22:40,054
- and a woman revealed to be
- wearing only lingerie.
- 438
- 00:22:40,620 --> 00:22:43,666
- No word on whether they shared
- a scorpion bowl after.
- 439
- 00:22:45,364 --> 00:22:48,671
- [wolf howls]
- 440
- 00:22:49,498 --> 00:22:51,587
- We were all slightly broken
- the next day,
- 441
- 00:22:52,762 --> 00:22:55,330
- and I remember just, like,
- I had this just wave
- 442
- 00:22:55,504 --> 00:22:58,942
- of just this core of, like,
- sadness. I felt guilty.
- 443
- 00:22:59,421 --> 00:23:01,902
- I felt just, "What did I do?"
- 444
- 00:23:02,337 --> 00:23:04,252
- And then it just occurred to me
- 445
- 00:23:04,426 --> 00:23:06,385
- this is the Catholic Church
- of Boston,
- 446
- 00:23:06,559 --> 00:23:09,910
- which covered up
- decades of child rape,
- 447
- 00:23:10,084 --> 00:23:13,696
- moved priests around,
- covered it up,
- 448
- 00:23:13,870 --> 00:23:17,308
- let them continue
- their raping and child abuse
- 449
- 00:23:17,483 --> 00:23:20,486
- and then had the gall to say
- what we're doing was sinful?
- 450
- 00:23:20,660 --> 00:23:22,357
- I mean, fuck them.
- 451
- 00:23:22,662 --> 00:23:26,230
- Uh, that was the moment
- that I really became a Satanist.
- 452
- 00:23:32,236 --> 00:23:33,934
- Woman: Let's shift gears
- a little bit.
- 453
- 00:23:34,282 --> 00:23:35,718
- Tell me about Oklahoma.
- 454
- 00:23:36,676 --> 00:23:39,853
- Okay, so Oklahoma had
- a Ten Commandments monument
- 455
- 00:23:40,027 --> 00:23:41,289
- on government property.
- 456
- 00:23:41,985 --> 00:23:44,423
- In my view, it's clearly
- making a religious statement
- 457
- 00:23:44,597 --> 00:23:47,164
- by doing that,
- and the Satanic Temple says
- 458
- 00:23:47,338 --> 00:23:49,138
- if you're gonna put
- your giant piece of marble
- 459
- 00:23:49,210 --> 00:23:51,821
- that says, "Christianity,
- Christianity, Christianity,"
- 460
- 00:23:51,995 --> 00:23:55,216
- then you also need to put up
- our gigantic monument
- 461
- 00:23:55,521 --> 00:23:56,565
- to Satanism.
- 462
- 00:23:59,089 --> 00:24:02,179
- Just imagine it,
- a statue of Satan right here
- 463
- 00:24:02,353 --> 00:24:04,617
- next to the Ten Commandments
- at the State Capitol.
- 464
- 00:24:04,791 --> 00:24:07,968
- The statue will be a symbol
- of Satan as a goat.
- 465
- 00:24:08,142 --> 00:24:09,360
- I want to show you
- 466
- 00:24:09,839 --> 00:24:11,600
- what this is gonna look like.
- Take a look here.
- 467
- 00:24:11,624 --> 00:24:14,278
- It's a seven-foot-tall
- goat-headed demon
- 468
- 00:24:14,453 --> 00:24:17,368
- sitting on a throne
- with two children next to it.
- 469
- 00:24:17,543 --> 00:24:22,112
- Lucien:
- 470
- 00:24:22,983 --> 00:24:24,343
- Newscaster:
- They submitted designs,
- 471
- 00:24:24,463 --> 00:24:26,377
- and they hope construction
- will start soon.
- 472
- 00:24:26,943 --> 00:24:28,823
- If we're gonna do this,
- we're gonna do it right.
- 473
- 00:24:29,163 --> 00:24:31,948
- This is not something
- that can be easily ripped down.
- 474
- 00:24:32,122 --> 00:24:33,602
- Like, we're gonna
- do this in bronze.
- 475
- 00:24:33,776 --> 00:24:35,216
- We're gonna make
- something beautiful.
- 476
- 00:24:35,299 --> 00:24:36,739
- We're gonna make
- something permanent.
- 477
- 00:24:36,910 --> 00:24:38,607
- So we decided to raise money
- 478
- 00:24:38,781 --> 00:24:42,263
- to make
- a gigantic Satanic statue.
- 479
- 00:24:42,437 --> 00:24:45,875
- And I have a friend who studied
- traditional sculpting,
- 480
- 00:24:46,049 --> 00:24:48,443
- so I called him up,
- told him the deal.
- 481
- 00:24:48,965 --> 00:24:51,054
- He said, "Are you serious?"
- 482
- 00:24:51,315 --> 00:24:53,535
- and I said, "Yes, I am,"
- and he said...
- 483
- 00:24:54,841 --> 00:24:56,103
- "I'm going to clear
- 484
- 00:24:56,277 --> 00:24:57,931
- the next six months
- of my schedule."
- 485
- 00:24:58,453 --> 00:25:00,499
- ♪ There's a call
- Comes ringing ♪
- 486
- 00:25:00,673 --> 00:25:02,588
- ♪ O'er the restless wave ♪
- 487
- 00:25:02,762 --> 00:25:07,027
- ♪ Send the light
- Send the light ♪
- 488
- 00:25:07,549 --> 00:25:11,901
- ♪ There are souls to rescue
- There are souls to save ♪
- 489
- 00:25:12,075 --> 00:25:16,079
- ♪ Send the light
- Send the light ♪
- 490
- 00:25:16,471 --> 00:25:18,473
- - ♪ Send the light ♪
- - ♪ Send the light ♪
- 491
- 00:25:18,647 --> 00:25:20,823
- ♪ The blessed gospel light ♪
- 492
- 00:25:20,997 --> 00:25:23,130
- - ♪ Let it shine ♪
- - ♪ Let it shine ♪
- 493
- 00:25:23,304 --> 00:25:25,304
- - ♪ From shore to shore ♪
- - ♪ From shore to shore ♪
- 494
- 00:25:25,436 --> 00:25:27,308
- - ♪ Send the light ♪
- - ♪ Send the light ♪
- 495
- 00:25:27,482 --> 00:25:29,832
- ♪ The blessed gospel light ♪
- 496
- 00:25:30,006 --> 00:25:31,834
- - ♪ Let it shine ♪
- - ♪ Let it shine ♪
- 497
- 00:25:32,008 --> 00:25:34,184
- - ♪ Forevermore... ♪
- - ♪ Forevermore... ♪
- 498
- 00:25:34,358 --> 00:25:37,057
- Nicholas: I was envisioning,
- you know, goat head,
- 499
- 00:25:37,231 --> 00:25:39,233
- I mean, everything
- you associate with Satanism.
- 500
- 00:25:39,407 --> 00:25:41,191
- Lucien became involved
- at that point
- 501
- 00:25:41,365 --> 00:25:43,803
- and kind of codified it
- into an actual Baphomet.
- 502
- 00:25:44,325 --> 00:25:47,241
- The Baphomet image was taken
- 503
- 00:25:47,415 --> 00:25:50,679
- from a 19th century drawing
- of the sabbatic goat.
- 504
- 00:25:52,507 --> 00:25:54,074
- Nicholas: I originally wanted
- bat wings,
- 505
- 00:25:54,248 --> 00:25:55,768
- but a Baphomet
- does not have bat wings.
- 506
- 00:25:55,902 --> 00:25:57,294
- It has angel wings.
- 507
- 00:25:59,122 --> 00:26:02,735
- We decided that Iggy Pop
- would be the torso.
- 508
- 00:26:04,606 --> 00:26:07,348
- And a real Baphomet
- traditionally has breasts,
- 509
- 00:26:07,522 --> 00:26:09,437
- but because we wanted
- to get this
- 510
- 00:26:09,611 --> 00:26:10,873
- in front of the State Capitol,
- 511
- 00:26:11,265 --> 00:26:12,764
- we were worried that
- the breasts would hinder us
- 512
- 00:26:12,788 --> 00:26:13,789
- from doing that.
- 513
- 00:26:15,225 --> 00:26:16,705
- One of the things
- that I insisted upon
- 514
- 00:26:16,879 --> 00:26:20,840
- was having two children...
- looking up.
- 515
- 00:26:22,711 --> 00:26:26,454
- Having little kids around it,
- that's just ridiculous.
- 516
- 00:26:26,802 --> 00:26:28,891
- Are we making a mockery
- of everything
- 517
- 00:26:29,065 --> 00:26:30,893
- with regard to Christianity
- in this society?
- 518
- 00:26:31,067 --> 00:26:32,503
- You may not like the Satanists.
- 519
- 00:26:32,678 --> 00:26:34,288
- Guess what?
- That doesn't matter.
- 520
- 00:26:35,028 --> 00:26:36,832
- - Reporter: Do you? Do you?
- - David: Everybody is equal.
- 521
- 00:26:36,856 --> 00:26:38,696
- I don't care. All religions
- are the same to me.
- 522
- 00:26:38,858 --> 00:26:40,575
- Reporter: So you think it's perfectly fine
- to put a satanic
- 523
- 00:26:40,599 --> 00:26:42,185
- whatever message
- they're gonna have up there?
- 524
- 00:26:42,209 --> 00:26:43,534
- - How crazy is it?
- - Yes. I mean... You believe
- 525
- 00:26:43,558 --> 00:26:44,918
- in an invisible man
- in the sky too.
- 526
- 00:26:45,255 --> 00:26:46,276
- You call him Satan,
- you call him God. I don't care.
- 527
- 00:26:46,300 --> 00:26:47,300
- Whatever I believe in...
- 528
- 00:26:47,997 --> 00:26:49,540
- Hollow: I had followed
- the Satanic Temple
- 529
- 00:26:49,564 --> 00:26:50,957
- in the news
- when they had announced
- 530
- 00:26:51,305 --> 00:26:52,761
- that they were making
- the Baphomet statue.
- 531
- 00:26:52,785 --> 00:26:55,048
- I thought it was
- genuinely inspired.
- 532
- 00:26:55,483 --> 00:26:56,963
- I thought it was hilarious.
- 533
- 00:26:57,137 --> 00:26:59,400
- And I was completely astounded.
- 534
- 00:26:59,574 --> 00:27:01,620
- These guys are super cool.
- These are my people.
- 535
- 00:27:01,794 --> 00:27:03,491
- This is the best thing
- I've ever seen.
- 536
- 00:27:03,665 --> 00:27:06,059
- - I was like, "Holy shit."
- - I want to be a part of this.
- 537
- 00:27:08,888 --> 00:27:11,151
- Woman: I think
- I donated 25 dollars,
- 538
- 00:27:11,325 --> 00:27:13,588
- and then I wrote them and said,
- "If you're ever in L.A.
- 539
- 00:27:13,762 --> 00:27:15,155
- and you need some help,
- hit me up."
- 540
- 00:27:15,546 --> 00:27:16,915
- I think you're
- an incredible organization,
- 541
- 00:27:16,939 --> 00:27:18,506
- and I would really like
- to be involved.
- 542
- 00:27:24,730 --> 00:27:26,446
- Jay D: From a constitutional
- law perspective,
- 543
- 00:27:26,470 --> 00:27:28,100
- I'm really interested
- in the Satanic Temple
- 544
- 00:27:28,124 --> 00:27:30,474
- because it is basically
- making these public bodies
- 545
- 00:27:30,649 --> 00:27:34,478
- confront the real implications
- of their decisions
- 546
- 00:27:34,653 --> 00:27:36,350
- to allow religion
- into the public square.
- 547
- 00:27:36,524 --> 00:27:38,154
- The government can't say,
- "You're a good religion.
- 548
- 00:27:38,178 --> 00:27:39,178
- You're a bad religion."
- 549
- 00:27:39,527 --> 00:27:41,026
- - What?
- - That's why you should not have
- 550
- 00:27:41,050 --> 00:27:42,288
- religious artifacts
- on public property.
- 551
- 00:27:42,312 --> 00:27:44,053
- Their figurehead
- is an Antichrist.
- 552
- 00:27:44,227 --> 00:27:45,827
- They should be able to put
- the statue up,
- 553
- 00:27:45,968 --> 00:27:48,101
- and then they should be shot
- right next to it,
- 554
- 00:27:48,275 --> 00:27:50,514
- - and then we take it down.
- - Man: So violence is the way
- 555
- 00:27:50,538 --> 00:27:52,298
- - of dealing with it?
- - Man 2: Yes. You're advocating
- 556
- 00:27:52,322 --> 00:27:54,242
- violence against people
- with religious beliefs...
- 557
- 00:27:56,544 --> 00:27:58,372
- Lucien: The Baphomet monument
- is far more
- 558
- 00:27:58,546 --> 00:28:02,419
- than simply some middle finger
- to the evangelical right.
- 559
- 00:28:03,203 --> 00:28:06,032
- Really... we were...
- 560
- 00:28:06,510 --> 00:28:09,339
- we were giving the Oklahoma
- government a civics lesson.
- 561
- 00:28:10,514 --> 00:28:12,212
- Reporter: It must be removed.
- 562
- 00:28:12,386 --> 00:28:14,736
- That is the order on the
- Ten Commandments monument
- 563
- 00:28:14,910 --> 00:28:17,696
- outside the State Capitol
- in a seven-to-two vote
- 564
- 00:28:17,870 --> 00:28:19,219
- by the Oklahoma Supreme Court.
- 565
- 00:28:19,523 --> 00:28:20,805
- Reporter 1: Well, a group
- of Satanists
- 566
- 00:28:20,829 --> 00:28:22,309
- is tonight claiming victory.
- 567
- 00:28:22,744 --> 00:28:25,225
- Are you still pushing to have
- the goat with the horns
- 568
- 00:28:25,399 --> 00:28:27,227
- and so on put up
- on the State Capitol grounds?
- 569
- 00:28:28,881 --> 00:28:30,752
- No, we don't want
- our monument there
- 570
- 00:28:30,926 --> 00:28:32,754
- without the Ten Commandments there. Um,
- 571
- 00:28:32,928 --> 00:28:35,583
- the point all along was
- that it would complement
- 572
- 00:28:35,757 --> 00:28:37,037
- and contrast
- the Ten Commandments
- 573
- 00:28:37,541 --> 00:28:40,414
- and reaffirm that we live
- in a pluralistic nation
- 574
- 00:28:40,588 --> 00:28:43,504
- that respects diversity
- and religious liberty.
- 575
- 00:28:56,996 --> 00:29:01,000
- I joined this group
- because I saw the TST website,
- 576
- 00:29:01,348 --> 00:29:03,393
- and it was something
- that spoke to me.
- 577
- 00:29:14,883 --> 00:29:16,339
- - Thank you.
- - Lucien: When people wanted
- 578
- 00:29:16,363 --> 00:29:18,974
- to start identifying
- with the Satanic Temple,
- 579
- 00:29:19,235 --> 00:29:21,498
- there was no turning back
- on that.
- 580
- 00:29:21,672 --> 00:29:23,109
- People would write us messages
- 581
- 00:29:23,283 --> 00:29:24,643
- and were wanting
- to get involved...
- 582
- 00:29:25,981 --> 00:29:28,854
- so we decided
- to allow people to apply
- 583
- 00:29:29,028 --> 00:29:30,812
- to run a chapter
- in their own city.
- 584
- 00:29:31,291 --> 00:29:32,292
- [indistinct chatter]
- 585
- 00:29:32,945 --> 00:29:35,556
- Jex: I decided to launch
- a chapter in Detroit.
- 586
- 00:29:36,513 --> 00:29:38,951
- Response was incredible.
- It was huge.
- 587
- 00:29:40,169 --> 00:29:42,084
- Hail Satan. Hail Satan.
- 588
- 00:29:45,218 --> 00:29:46,618
- Jex: I don't know
- if I was surprised
- 589
- 00:29:46,741 --> 00:29:48,101
- that people wanted
- to get involved.
- 590
- 00:29:48,743 --> 00:29:51,103
- I was surprised at how many people
- wanted to get involved.
- 591
- 00:29:53,922 --> 00:29:55,552
- Sadie: All right, friends.
- Thanks for coming.
- 592
- 00:29:55,576 --> 00:29:57,621
- Um, I want to tell you guys
- to start with
- 593
- 00:29:58,405 --> 00:30:00,711
- that we have three people
- that we want to make
- 594
- 00:30:00,886 --> 00:30:05,455
- new members today.
- Nick, and Dell, and Erin.
- 595
- 00:30:06,674 --> 00:30:08,067
- We have a lot of work
- to do,
- 596
- 00:30:08,545 --> 00:30:11,331
- and I think Christian privilege
- is a huge problem in our country
- 597
- 00:30:11,505 --> 00:30:14,595
- because it dictates our laws.
- It dictates everything we do,
- 598
- 00:30:14,769 --> 00:30:17,032
- what bathroom I can use
- in some states.
- 599
- 00:30:17,206 --> 00:30:19,513
- - Hail Satan. [laughs]
- - Hail Satan.
- 600
- 00:30:23,343 --> 00:30:27,042
- I've just always been
- an extremely curious person.
- 601
- 00:30:27,216 --> 00:30:28,827
- And I used to spend
- a lot of time
- 602
- 00:30:29,001 --> 00:30:31,612
- at the bookstore alone
- because I was a huge loser.
- 603
- 00:30:31,786 --> 00:30:33,744
- 'Cause I don't like to be
- involved in groups.
- 604
- 00:30:33,919 --> 00:30:35,311
- I'm not a very social person.
- 605
- 00:30:35,485 --> 00:30:37,357
- Most of my interactions
- are online.
- 606
- 00:30:37,531 --> 00:30:40,316
- It wasn't until I took
- that step to try to meet
- 607
- 00:30:40,490 --> 00:30:44,668
- these people, that's where
- it really all came together,
- 608
- 00:30:45,278 --> 00:30:46,975
- and I was terrified that I was
- just gonna
- 609
- 00:30:47,149 --> 00:30:48,629
- meet a bunch of people
- that were like,
- 610
- 00:30:48,803 --> 00:30:50,085
- "All right, so we're gonna
- meet up at the church.
- 611
- 00:30:50,109 --> 00:30:51,371
- We'll hand out
- spray paint cans,
- 612
- 00:30:51,632 --> 00:30:53,852
- and we'll kick over
- some graves." And...
- 613
- 00:30:55,462 --> 00:30:56,637
- everyone was amazing.
- 614
- 00:30:56,811 --> 00:30:57,856
- I came from a very,
- 615
- 00:30:58,378 --> 00:31:00,162
- like, conservatively
- religious background.
- 616
- 00:31:00,336 --> 00:31:04,688
- I was very much a devout
- Christian growing up.
- 617
- 00:31:05,124 --> 00:31:06,690
- You could almost say a zealot.
- 618
- 00:31:06,952 --> 00:31:08,779
- I've taught Bible school
- in our church.
- 619
- 00:31:08,954 --> 00:31:10,738
- I've taught Sunday school
- in our church,
- 620
- 00:31:10,912 --> 00:31:14,698
- and at the age of 13,
- I was called to be a deacon.
- 621
- 00:31:14,873 --> 00:31:17,179
- The day that I graduated
- confirmation,
- 622
- 00:31:17,353 --> 00:31:18,789
- you know,
- we're sitting in church,
- 623
- 00:31:18,964 --> 00:31:20,487
- and, you know,
- we're supposed to feel
- 624
- 00:31:20,661 --> 00:31:23,011
- the holy spirit come in,
- and I'm just like...
- 625
- 00:31:24,621 --> 00:31:25,840
- [groans softly]
- 626
- 00:31:26,928 --> 00:31:27,928
- [exhales] ...okay.
- 627
- 00:31:28,408 --> 00:31:30,149
- When I was in sixth grade,
- 628
- 00:31:30,584 --> 00:31:33,892
- we went on a field trip
- to see the film Gandhi.
- 629
- 00:31:34,893 --> 00:31:37,721
- The next day
- our history teacher said,
- 630
- 00:31:37,896 --> 00:31:40,376
- "You realize that in spite
- of all these great things
- 631
- 00:31:40,550 --> 00:31:43,162
- that he did for his countrymen
- and everything like that,
- 632
- 00:31:43,336 --> 00:31:46,382
- because he wasn't a Christian,
- he went to hell,"
- 633
- 00:31:46,992 --> 00:31:48,950
- and I'm like, "Really?"
- 634
- 00:31:49,255 --> 00:31:53,346
- This guy almost invented
- the idea of nonviolent protest,
- 635
- 00:31:53,650 --> 00:31:55,826
- but he's not a Christian,
- so he went to hell.
- 636
- 00:31:56,001 --> 00:31:59,352
- I'm like, "Is that the moral
- to this story? Really?
- 637
- 00:31:59,526 --> 00:32:01,180
- I call bullshit!"
- 638
- 00:32:01,963 --> 00:32:04,096
- This thing inside me
- was just, like...
- 639
- 00:32:05,314 --> 00:32:08,187
- I want to be the opposite
- of what these people are.
- 640
- 00:32:09,275 --> 00:32:13,018
- That's when I started, like,
- looking for Satan anywhere.
- 641
- 00:32:14,193 --> 00:32:16,760
- - Hail Satan.
- - Crowd: Hail Satan.
- 642
- 00:32:17,022 --> 00:32:18,153
- [chuckling]
- 643
- 00:32:18,327 --> 00:32:21,983
- [indistinct chatter]
- 644
- 00:32:22,723 --> 00:32:24,483
- Chalice: When I became a member
- of the Satanic Temple,
- 645
- 00:32:24,507 --> 00:32:26,770
- when I fully embraced
- who I was as a Satanist,
- 646
- 00:32:27,075 --> 00:32:28,424
- uh, it was my coming home.
- 647
- 00:32:29,208 --> 00:32:31,079
- This is crazy. Isn't this crazy?
- 648
- 00:32:31,253 --> 00:32:32,428
- [chuckling]
- 649
- 00:32:32,863 --> 00:32:34,583
- You all, like,
- came from all over the place.
- 650
- 00:32:34,735 --> 00:32:36,302
- Man:
- 651
- 00:32:36,606 --> 00:32:37,886
- - Woman 1: Yeah.
- - Woman 2: Yeah.
- 652
- 00:32:37,912 --> 00:32:39,827
- [all laughing]
- 653
- 00:32:40,001 --> 00:32:43,135
- Invoking Satan is invoking
- the struggle for justice
- 654
- 00:32:43,309 --> 00:32:45,572
- and equality for everyone.
- 655
- 00:32:46,355 --> 00:32:47,878
- Stu: Invoking Satan
- is the firm denial
- 656
- 00:32:48,053 --> 00:32:49,576
- that only one point of view
- is correct.
- 657
- 00:32:49,750 --> 00:32:51,510
- A willingness to fight
- for all points of view
- 658
- 00:32:51,665 --> 00:32:53,449
- in accordance with reason
- is imperative.
- 659
- 00:32:53,841 --> 00:32:54,841
- Michelle: Invoking Satan
- 660
- 00:32:55,234 --> 00:32:57,105
- is to reach out
- without reservation
- 661
- 00:32:57,279 --> 00:32:58,759
- and eat from the tree
- of knowledge
- 662
- 00:32:58,933 --> 00:33:01,501
- rather than be subjected
- to the whims of blind faith.
- 663
- 00:33:01,936 --> 00:33:03,807
- We will no longer choose
- apathy over action
- 664
- 00:33:03,982 --> 00:33:05,505
- and perpetuate
- our own oppression.
- 665
- 00:33:06,158 --> 00:33:08,029
- All: Ave Satanas.
- 666
- 00:33:08,464 --> 00:33:09,784
- - All: Ave Satanas.
- - Ave Satanas.
- 667
- 00:33:09,944 --> 00:33:12,120
- All: Hail Satan!
- 668
- 00:33:13,078 --> 00:33:14,993
- - Oh, those are cute.
- - [indistinct chatter]
- 669
- 00:33:15,167 --> 00:33:19,475
- Satanism is looking out
- for the Other
- 670
- 00:33:19,998 --> 00:33:21,434
- because we are the Other.
- 671
- 00:33:23,740 --> 00:33:29,224
- In three years, we have gone
- from three people to 50,000.
- 672
- 00:33:29,398 --> 00:33:32,749
- [crowd cheering]
- 673
- 00:33:32,923 --> 00:33:35,317
- As we bring the Satanic
- revolution to the world,
- 674
- 00:33:35,491 --> 00:33:40,453
- we do indeed invoke Satan
- and all that he means to us.
- 675
- 00:33:40,844 --> 00:33:44,370
- Join us in reciting,
- ave Satanas!
- 676
- 00:33:44,544 --> 00:33:46,633
- Crowd: Ave Satanas!
- 677
- 00:33:46,807 --> 00:33:50,158
- - Hail Satan!
- - All: Hail Satan!
- 678
- 00:33:50,332 --> 00:33:54,119
- - Ave Satanas!
- - All: Ave Satanas!
- 679
- 00:33:54,293 --> 00:33:57,818
- - Hail Satan!
- - All: Hail Satan!
- 680
- 00:33:57,992 --> 00:34:00,038
- [crowd cheering]
- 681
- 00:34:10,439 --> 00:34:12,702
- Stu: I was just a member,
- a card-carrying member,
- 682
- 00:34:12,876 --> 00:34:15,140
- and I wanted to get
- more involved,
- 683
- 00:34:15,314 --> 00:34:16,924
- but I had no real
- aspirations to be...
- 684
- 00:34:17,838 --> 00:34:20,536
- you know, I don't know.
- I just wanted to do something.
- 685
- 00:34:21,624 --> 00:34:24,627
- In the capital of Phoenix,
- there were these invocations
- 686
- 00:34:24,801 --> 00:34:27,021
- or prayers before city council meetings.
- 687
- 00:34:27,369 --> 00:34:30,111
- So please, if you can,
- stand for the invocation.
- 688
- 00:34:31,286 --> 00:34:33,767
- Stu: It's usually
- a hundred percent Christian,
- 689
- 00:34:33,941 --> 00:34:36,813
- and then every now and then
- they'll throw another group in
- 690
- 00:34:36,987 --> 00:34:38,511
- to celebrate
- how diverse they are.
- 691
- 00:34:39,294 --> 00:34:41,403
- Michelle: I was a nobody.
- I was kind of, like, you know,
- 692
- 00:34:41,427 --> 00:34:43,646
- just in this organization
- as a bystander,
- 693
- 00:34:43,820 --> 00:34:46,040
- commenting
- and supporting online,
- 694
- 00:34:46,258 --> 00:34:49,130
- and then I was very interested
- in helping out
- 695
- 00:34:49,304 --> 00:34:51,089
- in whatever capacity
- that I could.
- 696
- 00:34:51,567 --> 00:34:53,874
- Stu: Michelle was a radio personality
- at the time.
- 697
- 00:34:54,048 --> 00:34:56,616
- I was an attorney,
- and the first thing we did
- 698
- 00:34:56,790 --> 00:34:57,790
- was we wrote an email
- 699
- 00:34:58,270 --> 00:34:59,750
- to the city clerk in Phoenix
- and said,
- 700
- 00:34:59,793 --> 00:35:01,510
- "Hey, we see you have
- this invocation program
- 701
- 00:35:01,534 --> 00:35:03,534
- on a rotating basis.
- We'd like to be on that list."
- 702
- 00:35:03,623 --> 00:35:04,943
- We got a response email
- that said,
- 703
- 00:35:04,972 --> 00:35:06,016
- "Okay, here's your date."
- 704
- 00:35:06,495 --> 00:35:09,107
- A lot of people talking
- about the Satanic Temple
- 705
- 00:35:09,281 --> 00:35:11,674
- in Tucson,
- set to give an invocation
- 706
- 00:35:11,848 --> 00:35:13,676
- at the Phoenix city
- council meeting
- 707
- 00:35:13,937 --> 00:35:14,982
- coming up next month.
- 708
- 00:35:15,461 --> 00:35:18,464
- "Let us demand
- that individuals be judged
- 709
- 00:35:18,638 --> 00:35:19,987
- for their concrete actions."
- 710
- 00:35:20,292 --> 00:35:21,892
- Reporter: That is just part
- of the prayer
- 711
- 00:35:22,120 --> 00:35:24,339
- that members of the
- Satanic Temple plan to read
- 712
- 00:35:24,644 --> 00:35:26,044
- at the Phoenix city
- council meeting.
- 713
- 00:35:26,211 --> 00:35:27,536
- Stu: People that were
- interviewing us
- 714
- 00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:28,952
- were bringing holy water
- with them.
- 715
- 00:35:29,344 --> 00:35:31,129
- Uh, it was...
- it was complete insanity,
- 716
- 00:35:31,303 --> 00:35:33,019
- and there came a point
- where Michelle and I were like,
- 717
- 00:35:33,043 --> 00:35:34,043
- "What have we done?"
- 718
- 00:35:34,219 --> 00:35:35,481
- You wouldn't let ISIS come in
- 719
- 00:35:35,655 --> 00:35:37,255
- and give a prayer
- at the city of Phoenix.
- 720
- 00:35:37,309 --> 00:35:38,875
- Are you comparing these guys
- to ISIS?
- 721
- 00:35:39,049 --> 00:35:41,704
- Well, ISIS is evil.
- What is Satan?
- 722
- 00:35:42,357 --> 00:35:44,248
- Jim: I'd like to make a motion
- to change the practice
- 723
- 00:35:44,272 --> 00:35:45,360
- relating to invocations
- 724
- 00:35:45,665 --> 00:35:47,185
- and those chosen
- to give the invocation
- 725
- 00:35:47,232 --> 00:35:48,972
- be residents
- of the city of Phoenix.
- 726
- 00:35:49,190 --> 00:35:50,191
- That's okay to do that.
- 727
- 00:35:50,670 --> 00:35:52,454
- That's constitutional
- to change it,
- 728
- 00:35:52,933 --> 00:35:53,934
- but what we couldn't do
- 729
- 00:35:54,500 --> 00:35:56,937
- is apply it retroactively
- in this case.
- 730
- 00:35:57,242 --> 00:36:00,027
- That would be
- an unconstitutional suppression
- 731
- 00:36:00,419 --> 00:36:03,073
- of a minority
- religious viewpoint,
- 732
- 00:36:03,552 --> 00:36:05,902
- which is in contravention
- of the First Amendment
- 733
- 00:36:06,076 --> 00:36:07,426
- of the United States
- Constitution.
- 734
- 00:36:09,123 --> 00:36:10,709
- Stu: We knew that there were
- gonna be meetings,
- 735
- 00:36:10,733 --> 00:36:12,300
- but we decided that, uh,
- 736
- 00:36:12,605 --> 00:36:14,125
- it was probably dangerous
- for us to go.
- 737
- 00:36:14,215 --> 00:36:15,975
- I mean, people were
- threatening to murder us.
- 738
- 00:36:16,086 --> 00:36:17,606
- Uh, people were threatening
- to shoot us
- 739
- 00:36:17,871 --> 00:36:20,308
- on the way up the steps,
- um, and it wasn't worth it,
- 740
- 00:36:20,482 --> 00:36:24,573
- and it was streaming live,
- so we watched in horror.
- 741
- 00:36:25,139 --> 00:36:27,707
- We cannot stand by
- while a hate group
- 742
- 00:36:28,011 --> 00:36:29,926
- stands up
- and gives your invocation.
- 743
- 00:36:30,100 --> 00:36:32,146
- It's our goal to shut down
- their agenda,
- 744
- 00:36:32,320 --> 00:36:35,062
- which is to bring death
- and destruction over Phoenix.
- 745
- 00:36:35,236 --> 00:36:37,934
- We take a Pledge of Allegiance.
- It's one nation under God.
- 746
- 00:36:38,108 --> 00:36:39,327
- - Man 1: Yes.
- - Man 2: Yes.
- 747
- 00:36:40,198 --> 00:36:41,721
- That's not out there by mistake.
- 748
- 00:36:41,895 --> 00:36:44,506
- [crowd applauding]
- 749
- 00:36:44,680 --> 00:36:47,857
- How many people
- actually have a dollar bill
- 750
- 00:36:48,249 --> 00:36:51,078
- or a piece of money
- in their wallet or their pocket?
- 751
- 00:36:52,558 --> 00:36:56,431
- I do believe it says,
- "In God We Trust."
- 752
- 00:36:56,605 --> 00:36:57,824
- - Man 1: Yes!
- - Man 2: Yes!
- 753
- 00:36:57,998 --> 00:36:59,565
- [crowd cheering]
- 754
- 00:36:59,739 --> 00:37:03,133
- So are we invoking still
- the blessings of God
- 755
- 00:37:03,308 --> 00:37:04,961
- on our state and our city?
- 756
- 00:37:05,135 --> 00:37:09,314
- Are we invoking the curses
- of the deity spoken of
- 757
- 00:37:09,488 --> 00:37:11,011
- that they serve as Satan?
- 758
- 00:37:11,185 --> 00:37:13,492
- There are too many curses
- on our land,
- 759
- 00:37:13,666 --> 00:37:15,581
- and we don't need another curse.
- 760
- 00:37:15,755 --> 00:37:18,714
- Do we want God in this room,
- or don't we?
- 761
- 00:37:18,888 --> 00:37:21,239
- Don't mock God.
- 762
- 00:37:21,587 --> 00:37:23,545
- We want to lift up
- the name of Jesus.
- 763
- 00:37:23,719 --> 00:37:25,319
- There is no other name
- in heaven on earth
- 764
- 00:37:25,547 --> 00:37:28,463
- whereby a man must be saved
- in the name of Jesus Christ.
- 765
- 00:37:28,637 --> 00:37:31,423
- Let's get that straight.
- Make no mistake about it.
- 766
- 00:37:31,597 --> 00:37:33,425
- Jesus is the way.
- 767
- 00:37:34,164 --> 00:37:35,427
- Please, as briefly as possible.
- 768
- 00:37:35,601 --> 00:37:37,081
- We have a lot of cards
- to get through.
- 769
- 00:37:37,603 --> 00:37:38,995
- In a matter of one week,
- 770
- 00:37:39,169 --> 00:37:41,171
- a decades-old tradition
- of public prayer
- 771
- 00:37:41,346 --> 00:37:44,174
- before the city of Phoenix
- council meetings was history.
- 772
- 00:37:44,349 --> 00:37:47,003
- In its place, a moment
- of silent public prayer.
- 773
- 00:37:47,177 --> 00:37:49,528
- Michelle: It's kind of shocking
- that they would do away
- 774
- 00:37:49,702 --> 00:37:50,964
- with a 60-year tradition
- 775
- 00:37:51,138 --> 00:37:53,227
- for something
- that was so harmless.
- 776
- 00:37:54,184 --> 00:37:56,274
- The more hate
- that was thrown at us,
- 777
- 00:37:56,448 --> 00:37:57,884
- the more important this seemed
- 778
- 00:37:58,667 --> 00:38:00,365
- because it seemed
- like such a deeper issue
- 779
- 00:38:00,539 --> 00:38:02,139
- than a two-minute speech,
- where I'm like,
- 780
- 00:38:02,280 --> 00:38:04,325
- "Is this how everyone
- that's different is treated?"
- 781
- 00:38:05,065 --> 00:38:07,197
- And, you know,
- 782
- 00:38:07,633 --> 00:38:09,765
- it's not something
- that I'd faced in my own life.
- 783
- 00:38:10,200 --> 00:38:12,028
- For me to get this
- from my religion,
- 784
- 00:38:12,202 --> 00:38:16,294
- a minority religion, um,
- it was pretty eye-opening,
- 785
- 00:38:16,555 --> 00:38:18,121
- and that's what made me realize
- 786
- 00:38:18,296 --> 00:38:20,602
- how absolutely important
- this is.
- 787
- 00:38:29,698 --> 00:38:30,698
- Thank you.
- 788
- 00:38:42,450 --> 00:38:44,080
- Male reporter: The bill today
- allowing a monument
- 789
- 00:38:44,104 --> 00:38:45,104
- of the Ten Commandments
- 790
- 00:38:45,671 --> 00:38:46,951
- to be placed
- at the State Capitol
- 791
- 00:38:47,194 --> 00:38:48,935
- was filed
- by Senator Jason Rapert.
- 792
- 00:38:49,239 --> 00:38:51,305
- Female reporter: State Senator Jason Rapert
- says the monument
- 793
- 00:38:51,329 --> 00:38:53,243
- isn't meant to be
- a religious statement,
- 794
- 00:38:53,461 --> 00:38:54,854
- rather a testament
- to what he calls
- 795
- 00:38:55,028 --> 00:38:57,160
- the historical
- moral foundation of law.
- 796
- 00:38:57,335 --> 00:39:01,034
- These references are woven
- into the fabric of our society.
- 797
- 00:39:01,469 --> 00:39:02,775
- We're one nation under God.
- 798
- 00:39:03,079 --> 00:39:05,386
- Our national motto
- is in God We Trust.
- 799
- 00:39:05,908 --> 00:39:08,433
- It's time in our country
- to remind ourselves of,
- 800
- 00:39:08,607 --> 00:39:10,522
- really, those things
- that were important to us,
- 801
- 00:39:10,696 --> 00:39:12,001
- that were universal to us.
- 802
- 00:39:12,175 --> 00:39:13,495
- Senator Rapert,
- you know, again...
- 803
- 00:39:13,873 --> 00:39:15,918
- I'm a taxpaying member
- of the state of Arkansas,
- 804
- 00:39:16,528 --> 00:39:17,808
- and those
- are my Capitol grounds,
- 805
- 00:39:17,877 --> 00:39:19,008
- and I don't want that there.
- 806
- 00:39:20,140 --> 00:39:24,623
- I was a... I would say
- a zesty little atheist,
- 807
- 00:39:24,797 --> 00:39:26,755
- and I happened to go
- 808
- 00:39:26,929 --> 00:39:29,367
- to the American Atheist rally
- in Memphis.
- 809
- 00:39:30,498 --> 00:39:31,498
- One of the presenters
- 810
- 00:39:32,021 --> 00:39:33,390
- is a gentleman
- named Lucien Greaves.
- 811
- 00:39:33,414 --> 00:39:35,808
- You may be aware
- of our monument campaign
- 812
- 00:39:35,982 --> 00:39:36,982
- in Oklahoma.
- 813
- 00:39:37,766 --> 00:39:39,483
- Mason: He proceeds to give
- an entire presentation
- 814
- 00:39:39,507 --> 00:39:41,006
- of how they took a Ten Commandments
- monument down
- 815
- 00:39:41,030 --> 00:39:42,030
- in Oklahoma...
- 816
- 00:39:43,032 --> 00:39:45,470
- and my immediate thought was,
- "I've got to talk to this guy."
- 817
- 00:39:46,862 --> 00:39:49,343
- - Our Lady Victory.
- - All: Pray for us.
- 818
- 00:39:49,561 --> 00:39:51,345
- [crowd singing]
- 819
- 00:39:51,519 --> 00:39:53,869
- Man: Monuments to both
- the Ten Commandments
- 820
- 00:39:54,130 --> 00:39:56,524
- and Satan could soon
- find a home on the grounds
- 821
- 00:39:56,698 --> 00:39:58,483
- near the Arkansas
- State Capitol.
- 822
- 00:39:58,657 --> 00:40:00,297
- Today the subcommittee
- of the Capitol Arts
- 823
- 00:40:00,398 --> 00:40:02,008
- and Grounds Commissions
- held meetings
- 824
- 00:40:02,182 --> 00:40:04,271
- to review
- the proposed monuments.
- 825
- 00:40:04,445 --> 00:40:06,491
- Woman: The American History
- and Heritage Foundation
- 826
- 00:40:06,665 --> 00:40:08,493
- wants a Ten Commandments
- monument,
- 827
- 00:40:08,667 --> 00:40:11,409
- and the Satanic Temple
- wants a statue of Baphomet.
- 828
- 00:40:12,105 --> 00:40:14,063
- All: I pledge allegiance
- to the Flag
- 829
- 00:40:14,237 --> 00:40:16,326
- of the United States
- of America
- 830
- 00:40:16,501 --> 00:40:19,155
- and to the Republic
- for which it stands,
- 831
- 00:40:19,329 --> 00:40:21,331
- one nation, under God,
- 832
- 00:40:21,506 --> 00:40:24,813
- indivisible, with liberty
- and justice for all.
- 833
- 00:40:25,335 --> 00:40:28,600
- Thank you.
- And Mr. Lucien Graves is here.
- 834
- 00:40:29,035 --> 00:40:30,602
- Did I pronounce that...
- Graves, or...
- 835
- 00:40:30,819 --> 00:40:32,952
- - Lucien: Greaves.
- - Greaves, I apologize.
- 836
- 00:40:33,126 --> 00:40:36,825
- I want to get that right too,
- but they have proposed to place
- 837
- 00:40:36,999 --> 00:40:41,134
- a statue of Baphomet
- on the Capitol grounds.
- 838
- 00:40:41,743 --> 00:40:45,660
- Here's a... here's a more recent
- picture of our monument, uh,
- 839
- 00:40:45,834 --> 00:40:48,489
- it stands at eight feet,
- six inches in height,
- 840
- 00:40:48,794 --> 00:40:51,231
- a width at the base
- of the throne
- 841
- 00:40:51,405 --> 00:40:53,451
- of 37 and a quarter inches.
- 842
- 00:40:53,842 --> 00:40:55,627
- From the back
- of the throne to the front
- 843
- 00:40:55,801 --> 00:40:57,933
- it's 46 and a half inches,
- 844
- 00:40:58,281 --> 00:41:01,284
- and the widest point
- is at the tips of the wings,
- 845
- 00:41:01,459 --> 00:41:03,852
- which is 55 and a half inches
- in width.
- 846
- 00:41:09,162 --> 00:41:10,424
- If you have any questions?
- 847
- 00:41:11,425 --> 00:41:15,995
- What are you memorializing,
- or what is your monument to?
- 848
- 00:41:16,778 --> 00:41:19,477
- Well, we think
- that our monument commemorates
- 849
- 00:41:19,651 --> 00:41:21,261
- what makes America great,
- 850
- 00:41:21,566 --> 00:41:24,656
- and in our case, we believe
- that that's religious liberty.
- 851
- 00:41:24,830 --> 00:41:26,110
- Woman: And you mentioned earlier
- 852
- 00:41:26,527 --> 00:41:28,070
- that if the Ten Commandments
- monument doesn't go up,
- 853
- 00:41:28,094 --> 00:41:30,183
- then you would
- withdraw this request?
- 854
- 00:41:30,357 --> 00:41:32,272
- Correct.
- What we're trying to avoid
- 855
- 00:41:32,446 --> 00:41:35,057
- is the appearance
- of one religious viewpoint,
- 856
- 00:41:35,362 --> 00:41:37,756
- uh, apparently co-opting
- the power
- 857
- 00:41:37,930 --> 00:41:40,149
- and the authority
- of a government institution.
- 858
- 00:41:40,585 --> 00:41:42,630
- We feel that
- that is unconstitutional.
- 859
- 00:41:42,804 --> 00:41:44,893
- And just as
- none of the Ten Commandments
- 860
- 00:41:45,067 --> 00:41:47,156
- are cited
- within the Constitution
- 861
- 00:41:47,330 --> 00:41:49,855
- or...
- or in any of your state laws,
- 862
- 00:41:50,246 --> 00:41:55,556
- um, the principle of this kind
- of religious equality
- 863
- 00:41:55,730 --> 00:41:57,123
- and government
- viewpoint neutrality
- 864
- 00:41:57,297 --> 00:41:59,560
- is enshrined
- in the Constitution.
- 865
- 00:42:01,954 --> 00:42:06,393
- Rapert: American jurisprudence based
- a lot of our initial laws
- 866
- 00:42:06,567 --> 00:42:08,743
- on the Ten Commandments.
- You will find this
- 867
- 00:42:08,917 --> 00:42:10,919
- in the writings
- of our Founding Fathers.
- 868
- 00:42:15,358 --> 00:42:16,678
- For most historians,
- the question,
- 869
- 00:42:16,882 --> 00:42:18,602
- "Was America founded
- as a Christian nation?"
- 870
- 00:42:18,753 --> 00:42:20,494
- is fairly straightforward
- to answer.
- 871
- 00:42:20,668 --> 00:42:22,714
- The record seems quite clear
- that we were not.
- 872
- 00:42:23,932 --> 00:42:26,674
- You can look
- at the U.S. Constitution.
- 873
- 00:42:27,240 --> 00:42:28,920
- Abraham Lincoln:
- And when George Washington
- 874
- 00:42:28,981 --> 00:42:30,548
- signed that document,
- 875
- 00:42:31,070 --> 00:42:34,900
- he laid the foundation
- for our great democracy.
- 876
- 00:42:35,074 --> 00:42:40,166
- - [strains of "America" playing]
- - G... gee, that's wonderful.
- 877
- 00:42:40,340 --> 00:42:42,516
- Kevin: The only mentions
- of religion or God
- 878
- 00:42:42,690 --> 00:42:43,690
- in the Constitution,
- 879
- 00:42:44,605 --> 00:42:47,216
- uh, in fact, are ones that keep
- religion away from the state.
- 880
- 00:42:47,477 --> 00:42:49,281
- And if you look at the 1950s,
- you can see a lot
- 881
- 00:42:49,305 --> 00:42:51,656
- of the trappings
- that Americans point to today
- 882
- 00:42:51,830 --> 00:42:53,353
- as proof that their nation
- 883
- 00:42:53,527 --> 00:42:55,747
- is a Christian nation
- were invented.
- 884
- 00:42:55,921 --> 00:42:57,601
- Billy: Many people say, well,
- what is hell?
- 885
- 00:42:57,836 --> 00:43:00,236
- - Hell is separation from God...
- - Kevin: We see in the 1950s
- 886
- 00:43:00,316 --> 00:43:03,145
- the origins of what we might
- term an evangelical lobby.
- 887
- 00:43:03,319 --> 00:43:05,191
- Billy:
- Jesus demanded repentance.
- 888
- 00:43:05,365 --> 00:43:06,845
- Kevin:
- Billy Graham tells Americans
- 889
- 00:43:07,019 --> 00:43:09,717
- that communism
- is directed by Satan.
- 890
- 00:43:09,935 --> 00:43:12,111
- Billy: We thought we could
- get along without God.
- 891
- 00:43:12,285 --> 00:43:14,722
- We thought we could get along
- without a moral standard.
- 892
- 00:43:14,896 --> 00:43:17,246
- We thought we could get along
- without the Ten Commandments
- 893
- 00:43:17,420 --> 00:43:18,726
- and the Sermon on the Mount,
- 894
- 00:43:19,292 --> 00:43:21,860
- and we're beginning to wake up
- to the fact that we can't!
- 895
- 00:43:22,425 --> 00:43:27,039
- Jesus said, "Except ye repent,
- ye shall likewise perish."
- 896
- 00:43:27,213 --> 00:43:28,213
- Repent!
- 897
- 00:43:34,263 --> 00:43:35,543
- Kevin:
- The country's just learned
- 898
- 00:43:36,004 --> 00:43:37,644
- that the Soviet Union
- has the atomic bomb,
- 899
- 00:43:37,745 --> 00:43:39,465
- and he warns them
- that Armageddon is coming.
- 900
- 00:43:40,182 --> 00:43:42,663
- Unless the nation rediscovers
- its religious roots,
- 901
- 00:43:42,837 --> 00:43:43,882
- it'll be destroyed.
- 902
- 00:43:46,058 --> 00:43:48,147
- As America went to war
- with the godless communists
- 903
- 00:43:48,321 --> 00:43:49,321
- of the Soviet Union,
- 904
- 00:43:49,931 --> 00:43:51,716
- Americans discovered
- God themselves.
- 905
- 00:43:53,282 --> 00:43:55,023
- And so
- this is a remarkable moment
- 906
- 00:43:55,458 --> 00:43:57,306
- when the nation really does
- start to think of itself
- 907
- 00:43:57,330 --> 00:43:58,330
- as Christian.
- 908
- 00:43:59,158 --> 00:44:00,812
- In just the span
- of a few years,
- 909
- 00:44:01,029 --> 00:44:02,949
- "Under God" is added
- to the Pledge of Allegiance,
- 910
- 00:44:03,075 --> 00:44:05,207
- "In God We Trust"
- is placed on paper currency
- 911
- 00:44:05,381 --> 00:44:06,861
- and becomes
- the nation's motto.
- 912
- 00:44:07,253 --> 00:44:09,777
- For most Americans,
- these ceremonies
- 913
- 00:44:09,951 --> 00:44:12,127
- and slogans
- mattered more than anything
- 914
- 00:44:12,301 --> 00:44:14,173
- that was literally written
- in the Constitution
- 915
- 00:44:14,347 --> 00:44:16,628
- because they were the things
- they said day in and day out.
- 916
- 00:44:16,784 --> 00:44:19,308
- Their kids said the Pledge.
- They saw it on their money.
- 917
- 00:44:19,918 --> 00:44:21,484
- It was all over their world.
- 918
- 00:44:22,747 --> 00:44:24,096
- It really becomes
- an integral part
- 919
- 00:44:24,270 --> 00:44:26,011
- of who Americans
- think they are.
- 920
- 00:44:28,100 --> 00:44:30,798
- We are what we believe.
- 921
- 00:44:34,759 --> 00:44:36,559
- Male reporter: Victory today
- for the placement
- 922
- 00:44:36,586 --> 00:44:38,260
- of a Satanic monument
- on State Capitol grounds.
- 923
- 00:44:38,284 --> 00:44:40,678
- That's right. This proposal
- is deemed sufficient
- 924
- 00:44:40,852 --> 00:44:42,680
- by the Capitol Arts
- and Grounds Commission,
- 925
- 00:44:42,854 --> 00:44:45,160
- but now comes the hurdle
- of getting the statue
- 926
- 00:44:45,334 --> 00:44:46,988
- approved by the legislature.
- 927
- 00:44:48,555 --> 00:44:52,690
- It will be a very cold,
- cold day in the pits of hell
- 928
- 00:44:53,212 --> 00:44:56,302
- before you'll ever see a statue
- from the Satanic Temple
- 929
- 00:44:56,476 --> 00:45:00,219
- or some other group like that
- at the Arkansas Capitol.
- 930
- 00:45:01,133 --> 00:45:03,613
- Female reporter: For Greaves,
- it's a monumental task ahead,
- 931
- 00:45:03,788 --> 00:45:04,788
- stirring up what could be
- 932
- 00:45:05,311 --> 00:45:06,751
- a controversy
- of biblical proportions
- 933
- 00:45:06,878 --> 00:45:08,749
- on the Arkansas
- State Capitol grounds.
- 934
- 00:45:10,577 --> 00:45:12,076
- Woman: Do you think
- that most people think
- 935
- 00:45:12,100 --> 00:45:13,599
- you're kidding
- or that most people think
- 936
- 00:45:13,623 --> 00:45:14,623
- you're evil?
- 937
- 00:45:15,495 --> 00:45:16,775
- You know,
- it's really interesting
- 938
- 00:45:17,105 --> 00:45:19,412
- because people
- who don't understand the value
- 939
- 00:45:19,586 --> 00:45:21,544
- and concepts of Satanism
- are so ingrained
- 940
- 00:45:21,719 --> 00:45:24,025
- in this Judeo-Christian
- concept of good and evil.
- 941
- 00:45:24,373 --> 00:45:27,115
- Of course, why would anybody
- claim to embrace evil?
- 942
- 00:45:27,768 --> 00:45:28,813
- But we're not doing that.
- 943
- 00:45:30,815 --> 00:45:34,035
- All: Holy Mary, mother of God,
- pray for us sinners,
- 944
- 00:45:34,209 --> 00:45:36,342
- now and at the hour
- of our death, amen.
- 945
- 00:45:36,516 --> 00:45:37,516
- [bagpipes playing]
- 946
- 00:45:38,126 --> 00:45:39,190
- Male reporter: The bagpipes had just started
- 947
- 00:45:39,214 --> 00:45:40,214
- playing once again.
- 948
- 00:45:40,999 --> 00:45:42,799
- This is all happening
- because the newly-formed
- 949
- 00:45:42,870 --> 00:45:45,655
- After School Satan Club
- is holding an open house.
- 950
- 00:45:45,830 --> 00:45:48,310
- Organizers say
- the After School Satan Club
- 951
- 00:45:48,484 --> 00:45:51,052
- is designed to counter
- after-school Christian clubs
- 952
- 00:45:51,226 --> 00:45:53,315
- holding meetings
- inside public schools.
- 953
- 00:45:54,055 --> 00:45:55,335
- Male reporter:
- The Satanic Temple
- 954
- 00:45:55,709 --> 00:45:56,709
- says that the club is meant
- to broaden
- 955
- 00:45:56,710 --> 00:45:57,885
- the mindset of students
- 956
- 00:45:58,233 --> 00:45:59,713
- through critical
- thinking skills.
- 957
- 00:45:59,887 --> 00:46:04,239
- [indistinct chatter]
- 958
- 00:46:04,413 --> 00:46:06,938
- You know, I understand
- you guys don't want to follow
- 959
- 00:46:07,112 --> 00:46:08,766
- the status quo of religion.
- That's fine.
- 960
- 00:46:08,940 --> 00:46:10,220
- What you guys do
- on your own time
- 961
- 00:46:10,332 --> 00:46:11,812
- - is your own business.
- - Jex: Mm-hmm.
- 962
- 00:46:11,943 --> 00:46:13,485
- If you really just want
- to help the community,
- 963
- 00:46:13,509 --> 00:46:14,573
- - then go help the community.
- - We can help
- 964
- 00:46:14,597 --> 00:46:15,816
- the community as Satanists.
- 965
- 00:46:16,469 --> 00:46:18,273
- How are you guys gonna help
- the community as Satanists?
- 966
- 00:46:18,297 --> 00:46:19,840
- - We have been.
- - When people already have...
- 967
- 00:46:19,864 --> 00:46:21,082
- Around the country.
- 968
- 00:46:21,300 --> 00:46:23,476
- We are providing
- an alternate viewpoint,
- 969
- 00:46:23,650 --> 00:46:25,695
- an opportunity for kids
- to have an understanding
- 970
- 00:46:25,870 --> 00:46:27,848
- that there is different ways
- of looking at the world.
- 971
- 00:46:27,872 --> 00:46:29,612
- That's fine.
- You're not their parents.
- 972
- 00:46:29,787 --> 00:46:31,587
- Why don't you go do this
- at your kids' school?
- 973
- 00:46:31,701 --> 00:46:33,878
- - Please, please...
- - You guys are horrible people.
- 974
- 00:46:34,052 --> 00:46:36,358
- You have scared
- an entire school district.
- 975
- 00:46:36,532 --> 00:46:38,230
- You have frightened
- an entire community.
- 976
- 00:46:38,404 --> 00:46:40,449
- I hope that falls in line
- with your guise
- 977
- 00:46:40,623 --> 00:46:42,756
- of enlightenment
- and prosperity.
- 978
- 00:46:42,930 --> 00:46:44,714
- - Time to go, lady.
- - Bunch of assholes.
- 979
- 00:46:45,280 --> 00:46:47,108
- Man: Hey, watch your language
- with the kids.
- 980
- 00:46:47,456 --> 00:46:49,937
- [indistinct chatter]
- 981
- 00:46:50,329 --> 00:46:51,329
- Looking good.
- 982
- 00:46:51,983 --> 00:46:53,903
- - [overlapping chatter]
- - Woman: I was gonna say.
- 983
- 00:46:59,860 --> 00:47:02,471
- Lucien: When people ask
- what kind of child
- 984
- 00:47:02,645 --> 00:47:05,344
- would want to be involved
- in a club like this,
- 985
- 00:47:05,779 --> 00:47:08,390
- the answer is,
- I was that kind of child.
- 986
- 00:47:14,701 --> 00:47:18,226
- Narrator: Devil Worship.
- Exposing Satan's Underground.
- 987
- 00:47:21,447 --> 00:47:24,058
- Whether a Satan exists
- is a matter of belief,
- 988
- 00:47:24,232 --> 00:47:26,365
- but we are certain
- that Satanism exists.
- 989
- 00:47:26,713 --> 00:47:28,149
- To some it's a religion.
- 990
- 00:47:28,584 --> 00:47:32,066
- To others it's the practice
- of evil in the Devil's name.
- 991
- 00:47:32,414 --> 00:47:34,634
- It exists,
- and it's flourishing.
- 992
- 00:47:36,027 --> 00:47:37,627
- Lucien: You can't really
- fully understand
- 993
- 00:47:37,724 --> 00:47:39,465
- the Satanic Temple
- if you don't understand
- 994
- 00:47:39,639 --> 00:47:42,729
- the Satanic Panic
- of the 1980s and '90s.
- 995
- 00:47:43,991 --> 00:47:49,083
- The United States was caught up
- by anti-Satanist hysterics.
- 996
- 00:47:49,388 --> 00:47:52,826
- Baby killings,
- ritualistic rape, cannibalism.
- 997
- 00:47:53,783 --> 00:47:55,481
- Lucien: I was a young child
- 998
- 00:47:56,177 --> 00:47:58,658
- seeing these claims
- about satanic cults,
- 999
- 00:47:58,832 --> 00:48:01,922
- a criminal network,
- abusing babies,
- 1000
- 00:48:02,096 --> 00:48:03,881
- and driving children
- to Satanism.
- 1001
- 00:48:05,186 --> 00:48:07,580
- Man: Unsuspecting young people
- are drawn to the occult
- 1002
- 00:48:07,754 --> 00:48:09,625
- by seemingly
- harmless pleasures.
- 1003
- 00:48:09,930 --> 00:48:13,325
- They start by participating
- in fantasy role-playing games
- 1004
- 00:48:13,499 --> 00:48:15,893
- - like Dungeons & Dragons.
- - [demonic laughter]
- 1005
- 00:48:16,067 --> 00:48:19,418
- Okay,
- you enter a very small room,
- 1006
- 00:48:20,201 --> 00:48:23,117
- and there's a large black coffin
- right in the center.
- 1007
- 00:48:23,726 --> 00:48:24,989
- The gates shut behind you.
- 1008
- 00:48:25,815 --> 00:48:29,341
- Hollow: As a kid in the '80s,
- I loved Dungeons & Dragons...
- 1009
- 00:48:30,472 --> 00:48:33,301
- and I played
- Dungeons & Dragons constantly,
- 1010
- 00:48:33,911 --> 00:48:38,959
- and several of my friends'
- mothers forbade them
- 1011
- 00:48:39,612 --> 00:48:42,745
- from hanging out with me.
- That was, like...
- 1012
- 00:48:43,833 --> 00:48:46,314
- you know, my childhood brush
- with the Satanic Panic.
- 1013
- 00:48:46,619 --> 00:48:49,274
- Woman: Millions enjoy D&D,
- as the game is called,
- 1014
- 00:48:49,448 --> 00:48:51,406
- but we don't really know
- how many find
- 1015
- 00:48:51,580 --> 00:48:54,540
- unsuspected dragons
- in their psychic dungeons.
- 1016
- 00:48:54,888 --> 00:48:57,499
- How, then, do we deal
- with our demons?
- 1017
- 00:48:59,545 --> 00:49:01,329
- And then I was
- a young teenage metalhead.
- 1018
- 00:49:01,503 --> 00:49:05,899
- [heavy metal music playing]
- 1019
- 00:49:06,073 --> 00:49:08,510
- Hollow: I loved heavy metal
- and Dungeons & Dragons,
- 1020
- 00:49:08,684 --> 00:49:10,773
- which meant that there was,
- like, a social campaign
- 1021
- 00:49:10,948 --> 00:49:12,645
- against everything I loved.
- 1022
- 00:49:13,472 --> 00:49:15,300
- Man: If one or more
- of these warning signs
- 1023
- 00:49:15,517 --> 00:49:18,346
- are evident, you should look further
- for ritual items
- 1024
- 00:49:18,520 --> 00:49:21,349
- such as a pentagram
- or other satanic symbols.
- 1025
- 00:49:21,741 --> 00:49:23,351
- Experts advise you contact
- 1026
- 00:49:23,525 --> 00:49:25,963
- your local law enforcement
- agency at once.
- 1027
- 00:49:27,921 --> 00:49:29,444
- Hollow: The church
- called it satanic,
- 1028
- 00:49:29,749 --> 00:49:31,838
- and, you know, I didn't mind
- antagonizing them,
- 1029
- 00:49:32,056 --> 00:49:33,796
- so I just embraced
- some of these symbols
- 1030
- 00:49:33,971 --> 00:49:36,277
- and ideas, you know,
- but what it really was,
- 1031
- 00:49:36,451 --> 00:49:38,845
- is, like, these were the things
- that made my life great.
- 1032
- 00:49:39,541 --> 00:49:42,327
- D&D was awesome.
- I'd play D&D all night,
- 1033
- 00:49:42,501 --> 00:49:45,591
- whole weekends, whole weeks
- at a time sometimes,
- 1034
- 00:49:45,765 --> 00:49:47,245
- when I could, you know?
- 1035
- 00:49:47,419 --> 00:49:48,942
- And then, you know,
- heavy metal shows
- 1036
- 00:49:49,116 --> 00:49:51,466
- is what my life
- was built around in my teens.
- 1037
- 00:49:51,945 --> 00:49:53,816
- Man: Chris Edmonds
- is a Detroit disc jockey
- 1038
- 00:49:53,991 --> 00:49:56,645
- whose specialty is finding
- secret recorded messages
- 1039
- 00:49:56,950 --> 00:49:58,691
- by playing music in reverse.
- 1040
- 00:49:59,083 --> 00:50:02,042
- Chris: A lot of people hear the phrase,
- "My sweet Satan."
- 1041
- 00:50:03,130 --> 00:50:04,871
- ♪ Here's to my sweet Satan ♪
- 1042
- 00:50:05,045 --> 00:50:06,699
- - Chris: You hear it?
- - My sweet Satan.
- 1043
- 00:50:07,134 --> 00:50:08,414
- Michelle:
- With Dungeons & Dragons
- 1044
- 00:50:08,483 --> 00:50:10,485
- and heavy metal music,
- 1045
- 00:50:10,964 --> 00:50:13,575
- parents were like,
- "Well, those are the doorways
- 1046
- 00:50:13,749 --> 00:50:16,709
- to the Devil," and it's like...
- In hindsight it's like,
- 1047
- 00:50:17,318 --> 00:50:19,233
- "Yeah, maybe you're right."
- [laughs]
- 1048
- 00:50:21,192 --> 00:50:24,325
- You'll note on our model
- the pentagram on the right
- 1049
- 00:50:24,499 --> 00:50:26,327
- and the left side
- of the upper chest.
- 1050
- 00:50:26,501 --> 00:50:29,809
- Lucien: Today people laugh
- about the moral panic
- 1051
- 00:50:29,983 --> 00:50:32,551
- surrounding things
- like Dungeons & Dragons
- 1052
- 00:50:32,725 --> 00:50:36,729
- or backwards masking in music,
- but the fact of the matter is
- 1053
- 00:50:36,903 --> 00:50:39,558
- the Satanic Panic
- ruined people's lives.
- 1054
- 00:50:40,559 --> 00:50:42,300
- Man:
- 1055
- 00:50:42,865 --> 00:50:44,258
- - Pardon me?
- - Do you worship Satan
- 1056
- 00:50:44,432 --> 00:50:46,086
- - in any fashion?
- - Not at all.
- 1057
- 00:50:46,739 --> 00:50:49,002
- Jesper: People who got accused
- of satanic crimes
- 1058
- 00:50:49,568 --> 00:50:52,527
- were not Satanists
- and... and innocent.
- 1059
- 00:50:53,572 --> 00:50:55,661
- Hollow: The thing that I think
- is really remarkable
- 1060
- 00:50:55,835 --> 00:50:57,445
- and that everyone
- has to pay attention to
- 1061
- 00:50:57,837 --> 00:51:00,927
- is that the Satanic
- Panic fantasies
- 1062
- 00:51:01,623 --> 00:51:04,496
- were being indulged
- by Christians.
- 1063
- 00:51:04,670 --> 00:51:06,300
- Reporter: A Pennsylvania
- grand jury report
- 1064
- 00:51:06,324 --> 00:51:07,324
- released last month
- 1065
- 00:51:07,934 --> 00:51:09,718
- found more than 300
- Catholic priests
- 1066
- 00:51:09,892 --> 00:51:13,679
- sexually abused more than
- 1,000 children since 1947.
- 1067
- 00:51:13,853 --> 00:51:17,552
- The Satanic Panic, we now
- know in an entirely verified
- 1068
- 00:51:17,726 --> 00:51:20,729
- and publicly known way,
- was projection.
- 1069
- 00:51:22,862 --> 00:51:24,037
- They were doing it.
- 1070
- 00:51:25,995 --> 00:51:27,084
- I was playing D&D.
- 1071
- 00:51:30,478 --> 00:51:34,178
- I came to see
- that these cults themselves
- 1072
- 00:51:34,352 --> 00:51:35,744
- never actually existed,
- 1073
- 00:51:36,049 --> 00:51:38,617
- that the real evil
- was in the witch hunt itself.
- 1074
- 00:51:38,791 --> 00:51:40,314
- Man: I know
- not if she be a witch.
- 1075
- 00:51:40,662 --> 00:51:43,143
- Woman: No, no, no, no!
- You have the wrong woman.
- 1076
- 00:51:43,317 --> 00:51:45,406
- In just a few minutes' time
- the trial
- 1077
- 00:51:45,580 --> 00:51:48,453
- of Bridget Bishop,
- accused of witchcraft.
- 1078
- 00:51:48,627 --> 00:51:53,022
- - [bell ringing]
- - [indistinctly yelling]
- 1079
- 00:51:57,897 --> 00:52:00,682
- Lucien: Unlike the Salem witch trials,
- 1080
- 00:52:01,030 --> 00:52:04,512
- where there was some degree
- of introspection afterwards,
- 1081
- 00:52:04,686 --> 00:52:06,606
- there was even an apology
- from one of the judges.
- 1082
- 00:52:06,732 --> 00:52:08,168
- There was a general recognition
- 1083
- 00:52:08,690 --> 00:52:11,090
- that something had gone wrong
- and things needed to change...
- 1084
- 00:52:11,519 --> 00:52:14,435
- no such thing happened
- with the Satanic Panic...
- 1085
- 00:52:15,523 --> 00:52:18,657
- and so I feel like
- this is very much our fight,
- 1086
- 00:52:18,918 --> 00:52:20,963
- forwarding
- what it actually means
- 1087
- 00:52:21,138 --> 00:52:22,138
- to be a Satanist,
- 1088
- 00:52:22,922 --> 00:52:25,881
- and not allowing witch hunters
- to define that for us.
- 1089
- 00:52:27,796 --> 00:52:29,058
- Man: In the coming months...
- 1090
- 00:52:48,774 --> 00:52:50,428
- The Satanic Temple
- of West Florida
- 1091
- 00:52:50,602 --> 00:52:52,473
- is collecting socks.
- 1092
- 00:52:52,647 --> 00:52:55,433
- Woman: To help bring dry socks
- to local homeless people.
- 1093
- 00:52:55,607 --> 00:52:56,847
- It doesn't matter
- about the name
- 1094
- 00:52:56,912 --> 00:52:58,175
- or where it's coming from,
- 1095
- 00:52:58,653 --> 00:53:00,655
- as long as, you know,
- they're doing what they can.
- 1096
- 00:53:06,270 --> 00:53:09,055
- Ah! We have donations.
- 1097
- 00:53:09,882 --> 00:53:11,927
- Menstruatin' with Satan
- is a charity campaign
- 1098
- 00:53:12,101 --> 00:53:16,584
- that focuses on collecting
- menstrual products, tampons,
- 1099
- 00:53:16,758 --> 00:53:21,067
- pads, to distribute these
- to local shelters in our area.
- 1100
- 00:53:28,640 --> 00:53:30,859
- Siri: The Seattle chapter
- of the Satanic Temple
- 1101
- 00:53:31,033 --> 00:53:34,036
- did a blood drive,
- which was really, pretty fun.
- 1102
- 00:53:35,864 --> 00:53:37,364
- Male reporter: For drivers
- along the I-10
- 1103
- 00:53:37,388 --> 00:53:38,432
- near Casa Grande,
- 1104
- 00:53:38,824 --> 00:53:40,173
- the Satanic Temple
- of Arizona
- 1105
- 00:53:40,565 --> 00:53:42,784
- has now adopted
- a two-mile stretch of roadway.
- 1106
- 00:53:42,958 --> 00:53:45,874
- Female reporter: They even use
- pitchforks to pick up trash.
- 1107
- 00:53:46,092 --> 00:53:47,833
- Yes, pitchforks.
- 1108
- 00:53:48,094 --> 00:53:51,793
- This is a group who just wants
- people to know they exist,
- 1109
- 00:53:51,967 --> 00:53:55,144
- they're friendly,
- and they also hate litter.
- 1110
- 00:53:56,494 --> 00:53:58,844
- As of yesterday, uh,
- Seabright State Beach
- 1111
- 00:53:59,018 --> 00:54:00,324
- was officially adopted
- 1112
- 00:54:00,802 --> 00:54:03,979
- by the Santa Cruz chapter
- of the Satanic Temple.
- 1113
- 00:54:04,153 --> 00:54:05,566
- Male reporter: The Satanic Temple will serve
- 1114
- 00:54:05,590 --> 00:54:06,808
- as the caretaker for it,
- 1115
- 00:54:07,026 --> 00:54:08,375
- constantly helping
- keep it clean
- 1116
- 00:54:08,549 --> 00:54:09,549
- for the next year.
- 1117
- 00:54:16,949 --> 00:54:18,951
- Shiva: In order to help manage
- the expansive growth
- 1118
- 00:54:19,125 --> 00:54:20,779
- that we were experiencing,
- 1119
- 00:54:20,953 --> 00:54:24,086
- we decided to start
- the National Council.
- 1120
- 00:54:24,261 --> 00:54:26,915
- We've become pretty much
- the de facto governing body
- 1121
- 00:54:27,089 --> 00:54:28,221
- of TST.
- 1122
- 00:54:28,787 --> 00:54:30,310
- We work directly
- as a point of contact
- 1123
- 00:54:30,484 --> 00:54:32,225
- with the chapter heads
- of the chapter
- 1124
- 00:54:32,573 --> 00:54:35,141
- to address any concerns,
- to help them develop ideas,
- 1125
- 00:54:35,315 --> 00:54:37,032
- and to make sure that they're
- on the right track
- 1126
- 00:54:37,056 --> 00:54:39,493
- in terms of what
- the overall mission of TST is.
- 1127
- 00:54:39,667 --> 00:54:41,713
- That's our overarching thing
- to do
- 1128
- 00:54:41,887 --> 00:54:43,212
- as...
- as part of the National Council,
- 1129
- 00:54:43,236 --> 00:54:45,020
- is to work with the chapters.
- 1130
- 00:54:45,194 --> 00:54:49,634
- Yeah, Kym, do you think that
- that's an... a reasonable pivot?
- 1131
- 00:54:49,808 --> 00:54:52,724
- Like... God,
- I'm using corporate buzzwords.
- 1132
- 00:54:52,898 --> 00:54:54,856
- - [all laughing]
- - Um...
- 1133
- 00:54:55,640 --> 00:54:56,989
- We just want
- to be conscientious.
- 1134
- 00:54:57,424 --> 00:54:58,967
- We want to do as much good
- as we possibly can.
- 1135
- 00:54:58,991 --> 00:55:00,079
- - Mm-hmm.
- - Woman: Cool.
- 1136
- 00:55:00,688 --> 00:55:02,275
- Lucien: I initially imagined
- that the Satanic Temple
- 1137
- 00:55:02,299 --> 00:55:04,605
- would have
- no central authority,
- 1138
- 00:55:05,214 --> 00:55:09,175
- but at this point
- we're very keen to make sure
- 1139
- 00:55:09,349 --> 00:55:12,221
- chapters don't put out
- the wrong message.
- 1140
- 00:55:30,979 --> 00:55:32,894
- Jex: There is a prescribed
- set of rules
- 1141
- 00:55:33,068 --> 00:55:34,983
- about how you are supposed
- to protest.
- 1142
- 00:55:35,375 --> 00:55:36,724
- You go to
- your local politician.
- 1143
- 00:55:36,898 --> 00:55:38,900
- You register
- to hold a rally
- 1144
- 00:55:39,074 --> 00:55:41,033
- that is approved
- by the city council.
- 1145
- 00:55:42,382 --> 00:55:43,688
- But I feel very strongly
- 1146
- 00:55:43,862 --> 00:55:48,170
- that you can't dismantle
- corrupt systems of power
- 1147
- 00:55:48,345 --> 00:55:49,998
- while functioning within them.
- 1148
- 00:55:53,698 --> 00:55:55,308
- We don't have money.
- We don't have power.
- 1149
- 00:55:55,482 --> 00:55:57,310
- We have
- relatively little voice.
- 1150
- 00:55:57,919 --> 00:56:00,357
- When we go and we do a political action,
- 1151
- 00:56:00,531 --> 00:56:02,141
- it's more than just a protest.
- 1152
- 00:56:02,359 --> 00:56:04,970
- To us it is the celebration
- of our Satanic spirit.
- 1153
- 00:56:06,101 --> 00:56:08,190
- It's a ritual in and of itself.
- 1154
- 00:56:11,150 --> 00:56:13,370
- In much of our ritual practice we are taking
- 1155
- 00:56:13,544 --> 00:56:15,589
- traditional symbols
- of what we see
- 1156
- 00:56:15,763 --> 00:56:17,983
- as an oppressive
- religious institution
- 1157
- 00:56:18,157 --> 00:56:21,378
- and destroying those symbols
- as a form of empowerment.
- 1158
- 00:56:23,902 --> 00:56:25,382
- We often use nudity
- 1159
- 00:56:25,860 --> 00:56:28,080
- because there is a sense
- of shame surrounding nudity
- 1160
- 00:56:28,254 --> 00:56:30,125
- that still exists
- and is pervasive today.
- 1161
- 00:56:31,649 --> 00:56:33,912
- If I can,
- I like to use bodies of men.
- 1162
- 00:56:34,129 --> 00:56:35,609
- I'm very interested
- in staying away
- 1163
- 00:56:36,001 --> 00:56:38,121
- from the fetishization of
- the beautiful female body.
- 1164
- 00:56:39,787 --> 00:56:42,007
- We have used wine
- in the past,
- 1165
- 00:56:42,181 --> 00:56:44,009
- the idea of kind of,
- like, choking on wine...
- 1166
- 00:56:44,836 --> 00:56:47,621
- because the Church uses wine
- as a metaphor for,
- 1167
- 00:56:47,795 --> 00:56:49,144
- you know,
- the blood of Christ,
- 1168
- 00:56:49,667 --> 00:56:52,191
- but we see it as a form
- of oppression and control.
- 1169
- 00:56:53,845 --> 00:56:56,021
- [indistinct chatter]
- 1170
- 00:56:59,024 --> 00:57:01,635
- Man: Hail Mary, full of grace.
- The lord is with thee.
- 1171
- 00:57:02,027 --> 00:57:04,769
- Blessed art thou among women.
- 1172
- 00:57:06,814 --> 00:57:09,556
- Holy Mary, mother of God,
- pray for us sinners...
- 1173
- 00:57:09,730 --> 00:57:13,604
- [continues indistinctly]
- 1174
- 00:57:13,865 --> 00:57:15,843
- Jex: If there's anything
- that anti-choice protesters
- 1175
- 00:57:15,867 --> 00:57:17,782
- have been good at,
- it's the spectacle.
- 1176
- 00:57:18,347 --> 00:57:21,525
- We wanted to create a context
- where we can start to understand
- 1177
- 00:57:21,699 --> 00:57:23,503
- that people who are protesting
- outside of clinics
- 1178
- 00:57:23,527 --> 00:57:25,659
- are doing something
- that's somewhat perverse
- 1179
- 00:57:25,833 --> 00:57:26,833
- and disturbing.
- 1180
- 00:57:27,487 --> 00:57:28,986
- So anyways, that was where
- our starting point was,
- 1181
- 00:57:29,010 --> 00:57:30,650
- "How do we do this?
- How do we match them?"
- 1182
- 00:57:30,751 --> 00:57:33,885
- And then it was a lot
- of brainstorming and spitballing
- 1183
- 00:57:34,059 --> 00:57:35,843
- and conversation
- until somebody made a joke
- 1184
- 00:57:36,017 --> 00:57:37,932
- about how they fetishize
- the fetus,
- 1185
- 00:57:38,106 --> 00:57:39,630
- how it becomes this kind
- of object
- 1186
- 00:57:39,847 --> 00:57:43,285
- that is revered in a way
- that seems somewhat unnatural,
- 1187
- 00:57:43,460 --> 00:57:44,504
- and, um,
- 1188
- 00:57:44,983 --> 00:57:47,899
- you know, we landed
- on fetish babies,
- 1189
- 00:57:48,073 --> 00:57:49,378
- adult babies. [chuckles]
- 1190
- 00:57:51,076 --> 00:57:53,644
- [indistinct chatter]
- 1191
- 00:57:59,301 --> 00:58:04,959
- [men wailing]
- 1192
- 00:58:10,008 --> 00:58:11,792
- Man:
- 1193
- 00:58:12,010 --> 00:58:13,010
- Jex: Uh, we're talking
- 1194
- 00:58:13,533 --> 00:58:14,902
- about the abstraction
- and fetishization
- 1195
- 00:58:14,926 --> 00:58:16,667
- of the fetal image
- as one that speaks
- 1196
- 00:58:16,841 --> 00:58:19,496
- and diminishes
- women's power and voice.
- 1197
- 00:58:21,323 --> 00:58:22,823
- A lot of people
- look at performance art
- 1198
- 00:58:22,847 --> 00:58:24,936
- and are a little bit confused by it,
- 1199
- 00:58:25,414 --> 00:58:27,286
- but that's exactly how we feel
- 1200
- 00:58:27,460 --> 00:58:29,220
- when we see these people
- in front of clinics.
- 1201
- 00:58:29,288 --> 00:58:30,507
- All: Pray for us.
- 1202
- 00:58:38,166 --> 00:58:41,605
- What the heck just happened?
- Why are they doing this?
- 1203
- 00:58:41,779 --> 00:58:43,302
- - I have no idea.
- - All right.
- 1204
- 00:58:43,520 --> 00:58:45,367
- They're worshiping...
- they're worshiping Lucifer.
- 1205
- 00:58:45,391 --> 00:58:46,831
- I mean, they're...
- they're Satanists.
- 1206
- 00:58:49,874 --> 00:58:51,765
- Reporter: I don't know much
- about Satanism. What is it?
- 1207
- 00:58:51,789 --> 00:58:53,181
- Is it the worship of Satan?
- 1208
- 00:58:54,400 --> 00:58:55,793
- No, we're actually non-theistic,
- 1209
- 00:58:55,967 --> 00:58:57,838
- and modern Satanism
- has been recognized
- 1210
- 00:58:58,012 --> 00:58:59,840
- as non-theistic
- for some time now.
- 1211
- 00:59:00,624 --> 00:59:03,844
- Man 1: So the word Satanist has
- nothing to do with Satan.
- 1212
- 00:59:04,889 --> 00:59:06,586
- Like,
- if somebody wants to worship
- 1213
- 00:59:06,760 --> 00:59:08,327
- a pickle jar full of sand...
- 1214
- 00:59:08,849 --> 00:59:10,697
- - Man 1: What did you say?
- - Man 2: A pickle jar...
- 1215
- 00:59:10,721 --> 00:59:12,394
- - A pickle jar full of sand?
- - That's what it sounds like.
- 1216
- 00:59:12,418 --> 00:59:14,058
- Man 3: That's exactly what
- it sounds like.
- 1217
- 00:59:14,115 --> 00:59:16,770
- If you don't believe
- in the Devil, why call yourself
- 1218
- 00:59:16,944 --> 00:59:18,816
- - a Satanist?
- - It's called Satanism
- 1219
- 00:59:18,990 --> 00:59:20,228
- 'cause there's nothing else
- to call it.
- 1220
- 00:59:20,252 --> 00:59:21,558
- This wasn't pulled out of a hat.
- 1221
- 00:59:21,732 --> 00:59:23,951
- This wasn't something
- that was made up
- 1222
- 00:59:24,125 --> 00:59:25,165
- just to screw with people.
- 1223
- 00:59:25,518 --> 00:59:27,215
- This is a sociopolitical
- counter-myth.
- 1224
- 00:59:27,433 --> 00:59:28,758
- The reason I'm pressing you
- on this
- 1225
- 00:59:28,782 --> 00:59:30,392
- is... is because I sort of know
- 1226
- 00:59:30,567 --> 00:59:32,264
- a fake media story
- when I see one,
- 1227
- 00:59:32,438 --> 00:59:35,484
- and the whole Satanism thing
- seems like that.
- 1228
- 00:59:37,835 --> 00:59:40,272
- Who calls me
- from out of the pit?
- 1229
- 00:59:40,446 --> 00:59:42,666
- Jesper: The most important thing
- about modern Satanism,
- 1230
- 00:59:42,840 --> 00:59:44,450
- in my opinion,
- is that it has
- 1231
- 00:59:44,624 --> 00:59:46,713
- a lot of symbolic impact
- on a global level.
- 1232
- 00:59:46,887 --> 00:59:49,368
- - Hail Satan!
- - Hail Satan.
- 1233
- 00:59:49,934 --> 00:59:51,544
- [sobs] No!
- 1234
- 00:59:51,718 --> 00:59:53,198
- I mean, everybody knows Satan.
- 1235
- 00:59:53,459 --> 00:59:56,462
- He's as famous as Santa Claus
- or the Grey aliens.
- 1236
- 00:59:56,636 --> 01:00:01,423
- [chortling]
- I am a part of you all.
- 1237
- 01:00:01,598 --> 01:00:03,687
- Lucien: In the literary concept
- John Milton wrote
- 1238
- 01:00:03,861 --> 01:00:05,732
- that Satan
- was derived from heaven.
- 1239
- 01:00:05,906 --> 01:00:09,344
- He was ousted for not stepping in line,
- like the rest of us,
- 1240
- 01:00:09,518 --> 01:00:10,607
- and now we fight back.
- 1241
- 01:00:11,216 --> 01:00:13,479
- [overlapping chatter]
- 1242
- 01:00:13,827 --> 01:00:16,395
- You're not wanted here.
- You're not wanted here.
- 1243
- 01:00:16,569 --> 01:00:18,092
- Out. Get out, Devils.
- 1244
- 01:00:18,571 --> 01:00:20,549
- America: When I tell people that
- I don't actually believe
- 1245
- 01:00:20,573 --> 01:00:21,574
- in a literal Satan,
- 1246
- 01:00:22,053 --> 01:00:23,881
- they're almost disappointed
- and upset.
- 1247
- 01:00:24,185 --> 01:00:25,185
- They don't like the idea
- 1248
- 01:00:25,839 --> 01:00:28,363
- that we've taken
- a religion's villain
- 1249
- 01:00:28,537 --> 01:00:31,889
- and made him sort of
- our champion for rebellion.
- 1250
- 01:00:33,151 --> 01:00:35,066
- Woman:
- What it's preaching is evil.
- 1251
- 01:00:35,240 --> 01:00:37,024
- It's preaching
- against Christianity.
- 1252
- 01:00:37,198 --> 01:00:38,373
- It's anti-Christian.
- 1253
- 01:00:38,722 --> 01:00:39,897
- To say that a Satanist
- 1254
- 01:00:40,288 --> 01:00:43,683
- is anti-Christian is, again,
- a half-truth.
- 1255
- 01:00:43,857 --> 01:00:45,903
- They are anti-Christian
- in the sense that
- 1256
- 01:00:46,251 --> 01:00:48,340
- they are post-Christian.
- They are...
- 1257
- 01:00:48,514 --> 01:00:50,647
- They've actually left
- Christianity.
- 1258
- 01:00:50,908 --> 01:00:52,387
- They are
- taking Satan with them.
- 1259
- 01:00:53,040 --> 01:00:54,825
- Wonka: I like the story of,
- like, Abraham,
- 1260
- 01:00:54,999 --> 01:00:56,914
- who's gonna kill his son,
- and Satan comes over.
- 1261
- 01:00:57,088 --> 01:00:59,133
- He's like,
- "Hey, don't do this."
- 1262
- 01:00:59,307 --> 01:01:00,569
- [whispering eerily]
- 1263
- 01:01:00,961 --> 01:01:02,330
- Wonka: And on one side
- it's... Everyone goes,
- 1264
- 01:01:02,354 --> 01:01:04,008
- "Well, that's him
- tempting Abraham,"
- 1265
- 01:01:04,182 --> 01:01:06,302
- and you go... On the other side,
- it's him going, like,
- 1266
- 01:01:06,358 --> 01:01:08,099
- "Hey, asshole,
- don't kill your kid."
- 1267
- 01:01:08,534 --> 01:01:10,686
- Satan didn't sit on his ass
- and just watch that happen.
- 1268
- 01:01:10,710 --> 01:01:11,972
- He got up and did something.
- 1269
- 01:01:13,713 --> 01:01:16,455
- Jesus walked into the desert
- with no food, right?
- 1270
- 01:01:16,629 --> 01:01:18,762
- [chuckles] Satan comes to him,
- and he tempts him
- 1271
- 01:01:18,936 --> 01:01:21,982
- with water and food.
- He's starving in the desert.
- 1272
- 01:01:22,809 --> 01:01:24,376
- Like,
- "Hey, dude, don't do this.
- 1273
- 01:01:24,550 --> 01:01:26,073
- Have some water.
- Like, you're fine."
- 1274
- 01:01:26,247 --> 01:01:28,162
- Shouldn't they just
- call themselves atheists
- 1275
- 01:01:28,336 --> 01:01:30,556
- if they don't believe
- in anything supernatural,
- 1276
- 01:01:30,730 --> 01:01:32,036
- a supernatural being?
- 1277
- 01:01:32,471 --> 01:01:35,779
- Being an atheist is boring.
- There's no community.
- 1278
- 01:01:36,301 --> 01:01:37,981
- There's no iconography.
- There's no history.
- 1279
- 01:01:38,129 --> 01:01:40,261
- There's no code of conduct
- or ethics.
- 1280
- 01:01:40,435 --> 01:01:41,435
- There's no tenets.
- 1281
- 01:01:41,828 --> 01:01:43,917
- It's just defining
- what you're not.
- 1282
- 01:01:44,439 --> 01:01:48,487
- And with modern Satanism,
- you can define what you are.
- 1283
- 01:01:49,401 --> 01:01:51,446
- I mean, we've defined Satanism
- 1284
- 01:01:51,620 --> 01:01:55,537
- for the Satanic Temple
- with our Seven Tenets.
- 1285
- 01:02:03,502 --> 01:02:05,504
- America: One should strive
- to act with compassion
- 1286
- 01:02:05,678 --> 01:02:07,288
- and empathy
- towards all creatures
- 1287
- 01:02:07,462 --> 01:02:08,768
- in accordance with reason.
- 1288
- 01:02:12,946 --> 01:02:13,946
- The struggle for justice
- 1289
- 01:02:14,382 --> 01:02:15,862
- is an ongoing
- and necessary pursuit
- 1290
- 01:02:16,080 --> 01:02:18,735
- that should prevail
- over laws and institutions.
- 1291
- 01:02:21,650 --> 01:02:25,437
- One's body is inviolable,
- subject to one's own will alone.
- 1292
- 01:02:28,745 --> 01:02:30,659
- The freedom of others
- should be respected,
- 1293
- 01:02:30,834 --> 01:02:33,184
- including the freedom
- to offend.
- 1294
- 01:02:34,141 --> 01:02:36,230
- To willfully
- and unjustly encroach
- 1295
- 01:02:36,404 --> 01:02:39,930
- upon the freedoms of another
- is to forgo your own.
- 1296
- 01:02:43,629 --> 01:02:44,869
- Wonka: This is my favorite one.
- 1297
- 01:02:45,762 --> 01:02:46,850
- Beliefs should conform
- 1298
- 01:02:47,502 --> 01:02:49,462
- to our best scientific
- understanding of the world.
- 1299
- 01:02:50,288 --> 01:02:51,376
- We should take care
- 1300
- 01:02:51,811 --> 01:02:54,074
- never to distort
- scientific facts
- 1301
- 01:02:54,292 --> 01:02:55,641
- to fit our beliefs.
- 1302
- 01:02:58,731 --> 01:03:00,951
- People are fallible.
- If we make a mistake,
- 1303
- 01:03:01,125 --> 01:03:02,779
- we should do our best
- to rectify it
- 1304
- 01:03:02,953 --> 01:03:05,999
- and resolve any harm
- that may have been caused.
- 1305
- 01:03:10,438 --> 01:03:12,136
- Sadie: Every tenet
- is a guiding principle
- 1306
- 01:03:12,310 --> 01:03:15,139
- designed to inspire nobility
- in action and thought.
- 1307
- 01:03:16,401 --> 01:03:18,272
- The spirit of compassion,
- wisdom,
- 1308
- 01:03:18,446 --> 01:03:20,013
- and justice
- should always prevail
- 1309
- 01:03:20,187 --> 01:03:21,841
- over the written
- or spoken word.
- 1310
- 01:03:22,059 --> 01:03:25,932
- - Hail Satan!
- - All: Hail Satan!
- 1311
- 01:03:26,106 --> 01:03:27,194
- I am very surprised
- 1312
- 01:03:27,673 --> 01:03:29,544
- to find myself
- part of an actual religion.
- 1313
- 01:03:29,936 --> 01:03:30,981
- [chuckles]
- 1314
- 01:03:31,372 --> 01:03:33,157
- I wholeheartedly
- 1315
- 01:03:33,331 --> 01:03:35,507
- agree with the Seven Tenets
- of the Satanic Temple.
- 1316
- 01:03:35,681 --> 01:03:38,118
- I believe they far outweigh
- the Ten Commandments
- 1317
- 01:03:38,292 --> 01:03:40,729
- in terms of morality
- 1318
- 01:03:40,904 --> 01:03:44,821
- and, uh, best-case practices
- to live your life,
- 1319
- 01:03:45,604 --> 01:03:47,214
- and why can't that be
- a religion?
- 1320
- 01:03:47,388 --> 01:03:49,782
- Why can't me following
- a code of ethics,
- 1321
- 01:03:50,565 --> 01:03:52,524
- having fellowship
- with brethren,
- 1322
- 01:03:52,959 --> 01:03:54,613
- why... why can't that be
- a religion?
- 1323
- 01:04:01,185 --> 01:04:02,505
- - Man: I'm recording.
- - All right.
- 1324
- 01:04:03,013 --> 01:04:06,407
- Well, I want to thank you
- for tuning in to get an update
- 1325
- 01:04:06,581 --> 01:04:08,627
- on the Arkansas
- Ten Commandments monument.
- 1326
- 01:04:09,846 --> 01:04:11,086
- Female reporter:
- In Little Rock,
- 1327
- 01:04:11,586 --> 01:04:13,129
- while the Ten Commandments
- continue to be watered
- 1328
- 01:04:13,153 --> 01:04:14,198
- throughout the morning,
- 1329
- 01:04:14,851 --> 01:04:16,765
- they stand tall
- in their new home.
- 1330
- 01:04:17,201 --> 01:04:19,681
- Take a look. This is exactly
- where it sits right now.
- 1331
- 01:04:19,856 --> 01:04:21,335
- It was installed
- on the back side
- 1332
- 01:04:21,509 --> 01:04:22,989
- of the Capitol Building
- this morning.
- 1333
- 01:04:23,163 --> 01:04:25,209
- And I want to say thank you
- to everyone
- 1334
- 01:04:25,557 --> 01:04:27,951
- who has contributed
- to erect this monument.
- 1335
- 01:04:28,995 --> 01:04:30,955
- Lucien: This is absolutely
- a declaration of faith,
- 1336
- 01:04:31,128 --> 01:04:34,131
- and this monument will
- almost certainly come down.
- 1337
- 01:04:36,307 --> 01:04:40,180
- When our first Ten Commandments
- came up, she had a short life.
- 1338
- 01:04:43,053 --> 01:04:46,578
- She lasted about 24 hours
- before a fervent believer
- 1339
- 01:04:46,752 --> 01:04:48,275
- in the separation
- of church and state
- 1340
- 01:04:48,449 --> 01:04:49,929
- took her down with his car.
- 1341
- 01:04:50,843 --> 01:04:51,931
- Michael: Freedom!
- 1342
- 01:04:55,413 --> 01:04:58,720
- I wake up, and I'm like,
- "Oh, my God." [chuckles]
- 1343
- 01:04:58,895 --> 01:05:02,072
- Get this. Police say around 4:45
- in the morning local time
- 1344
- 01:05:02,246 --> 01:05:03,987
- a 32-year-old man
- 1345
- 01:05:04,335 --> 01:05:07,338
- rammed his vehicle
- straight into that monument.
- 1346
- 01:05:08,513 --> 01:05:11,081
- This man drove his vehicle
- into the statue,
- 1347
- 01:05:11,255 --> 01:05:14,736
- streamed it all on Facebook.
- He's now facing charges.
- 1348
- 01:05:14,911 --> 01:05:16,311
- I felt a huge pressure
- come over me,
- 1349
- 01:05:16,434 --> 01:05:18,479
- and I heard inside,
- "Destroy it tonight."
- 1350
- 01:05:18,653 --> 01:05:20,153
- Male reporter: He says
- he's a Christian
- 1351
- 01:05:20,177 --> 01:05:21,457
- who supports
- the Ten Commandments
- 1352
- 01:05:22,135 --> 01:05:24,790
- but not when they're replicated
- on State Capitol grounds.
- 1353
- 01:05:26,661 --> 01:05:28,335
- Mason: This was not a good thing
- in my eyes
- 1354
- 01:05:28,359 --> 01:05:30,230
- or in the Satanic Temple's eyes
- 1355
- 01:05:30,404 --> 01:05:32,537
- because we wanted this
- to come down the correct way
- 1356
- 01:05:32,711 --> 01:05:33,930
- and not this way,
- 1357
- 01:05:34,495 --> 01:05:36,695
- and of course, this did nothing
- but help Rapert's cause.
- 1358
- 01:05:38,412 --> 01:05:41,850
- Rapert: We have to take a stand
- for civility in this country.
- 1359
- 01:05:42,025 --> 01:05:45,245
- All of this radical talk
- from the Satanic Temple
- 1360
- 01:05:45,593 --> 01:05:47,595
- that would cause
- unstable people to get out
- 1361
- 01:05:47,769 --> 01:05:51,034
- and carry out these acts.
- What culpability do they have?
- 1362
- 01:05:52,296 --> 01:05:53,514
- Journalist:
- 1363
- 01:06:00,782 --> 01:06:02,306
- I don't even know
- how to quite respond
- 1364
- 01:06:02,480 --> 01:06:03,524
- to that question.
- 1365
- 01:06:04,177 --> 01:06:05,633
- You see, you got to understand
- the kind of people
- 1366
- 01:06:05,657 --> 01:06:06,788
- you're dealing with here.
- 1367
- 01:06:07,485 --> 01:06:10,009
- The man that claims to be
- the head of the Satanic Temple,
- 1368
- 01:06:10,923 --> 01:06:14,231
- this guy runs around the country
- using the name Lucien Greaves.
- 1369
- 01:06:14,709 --> 01:06:17,277
- It's not even his real name.
- 1370
- 01:06:17,495 --> 01:06:21,412
- Fake names, fake arguments,
- coming into Arkansas
- 1371
- 01:06:21,586 --> 01:06:23,370
- to take advantage
- of gullible people.
- 1372
- 01:06:23,631 --> 01:06:25,242
- The leader of the
- Satanic Temple,
- 1373
- 01:06:25,416 --> 01:06:27,287
- he's using a fake name.
- 1374
- 01:06:27,461 --> 01:06:29,507
- His name
- is actually Doug Mesner.
- 1375
- 01:06:31,117 --> 01:06:32,901
- My name
- isn't Douglas Mesner either.
- 1376
- 01:06:33,424 --> 01:06:35,295
- I have
- double-layered pseudonyms.
- 1377
- 01:06:38,777 --> 01:06:41,171
- Man: The Ten Commandments
- monument will be back up.
- 1378
- 01:06:41,998 --> 01:06:43,608
- The law will be fulfilled.
- 1379
- 01:06:53,487 --> 01:06:55,465
- Jay D: There are a lot of
- Ten Commandments monuments
- 1380
- 01:06:55,489 --> 01:06:56,925
- of the same exact sort
- 1381
- 01:06:57,187 --> 01:07:00,016
- in many places
- all over the United States
- 1382
- 01:07:00,190 --> 01:07:01,670
- which were put up
- around the same time
- 1383
- 01:07:01,713 --> 01:07:02,975
- because they were distributed
- 1384
- 01:07:03,149 --> 01:07:04,977
- by Paramount Pictures
- in connection
- 1385
- 01:07:05,151 --> 01:07:06,544
- with "The Ten Commandments"
- movie.
- 1386
- 01:07:06,718 --> 01:07:08,720
- Woman: Wait, what?
- Paramount Pictures?
- 1387
- 01:07:08,894 --> 01:07:11,201
- Yeah, the story
- is that Cecil B. DeMille
- 1388
- 01:07:11,375 --> 01:07:13,377
- was involved in making
- these Ten Commandments
- 1389
- 01:07:13,551 --> 01:07:17,468
- in connection with the film
- and then donating them
- 1390
- 01:07:17,642 --> 01:07:19,296
- to governments
- around the country,
- 1391
- 01:07:19,470 --> 01:07:20,819
- and that's the story.
- 1392
- 01:07:20,993 --> 01:07:22,255
- To promote a movie?
- 1393
- 01:07:22,516 --> 01:07:24,196
- It's connected to the promotion
- of a movie.
- 1394
- 01:07:24,257 --> 01:07:26,433
- That's crazy. [laughing]
- 1395
- 01:07:27,913 --> 01:07:29,353
- Kevin: The Ten Commandments
- monuments
- 1396
- 01:07:29,567 --> 01:07:31,569
- are designed to look
- like the stone tablets
- 1397
- 01:07:31,743 --> 01:07:33,503
- that are carried down
- by Heston in the movie.
- 1398
- 01:07:34,572 --> 01:07:35,572
- The stars from the film,
- 1399
- 01:07:36,313 --> 01:07:37,681
- they're spreading them
- all across the country,
- 1400
- 01:07:37,705 --> 01:07:39,403
- and it becomes
- much more present
- 1401
- 01:07:39,577 --> 01:07:40,926
- in the everyday life
- of Americans
- 1402
- 01:07:41,100 --> 01:07:42,449
- where it hadn't been before.
- 1403
- 01:07:43,320 --> 01:07:45,626
- The Ten Commandments
- need no interpretation.
- 1404
- 01:07:45,844 --> 01:07:50,849
- Like all good law...
- they are simple and basic
- 1405
- 01:07:51,502 --> 01:07:52,502
- and immutable.
- 1406
- 01:07:57,769 --> 01:08:02,165
- [crowd applauding]
- 1407
- 01:08:02,339 --> 01:08:03,688
- Reporter:
- Donations are pouring in
- 1408
- 01:08:03,905 --> 01:08:05,733
- to replace the
- Ten Commandments monument,
- 1409
- 01:08:06,125 --> 01:08:09,085
- including the maker of a film
- made at the State Capitol.
- 1410
- 01:08:09,346 --> 01:08:11,435
- The people behind
- "God's Not Dead"
- 1411
- 01:08:11,609 --> 01:08:14,090
- pledged to donate
- 25,000 dollars
- 1412
- 01:08:14,394 --> 01:08:15,961
- to rebuild the monument.
- 1413
- 01:08:18,268 --> 01:08:22,010
- Mason: Pure Flix is a Christian
- film production company...
- 1414
- 01:08:22,881 --> 01:08:25,579
- that made the flick
- "God's Not Dead 2"
- 1415
- 01:08:25,753 --> 01:08:27,190
- here at our State Capitol.
- 1416
- 01:08:27,799 --> 01:08:29,844
- People seem to forget
- 1417
- 01:08:30,018 --> 01:08:32,238
- that the most basic
- human right of all
- 1418
- 01:08:32,412 --> 01:08:34,284
- is the right to know Jesus.
- 1419
- 01:08:35,328 --> 01:08:37,113
- Mason:
- Melissa Joan Hart was here.
- 1420
- 01:08:37,330 --> 01:08:40,377
- I'm not gonna be afraid
- to say the name Jesus.
- 1421
- 01:08:41,117 --> 01:08:45,164
- This was a "real movie" here
- in Little Rock, Arkansas...
- 1422
- 01:08:45,338 --> 01:08:46,383
- [crowd hollering]
- 1423
- 01:08:47,340 --> 01:08:49,362
- ...and so the conservative
- Christian base in this town,
- 1424
- 01:08:49,386 --> 01:08:51,779
- it was all about the fact
- that they were helping
- 1425
- 01:08:51,953 --> 01:08:55,087
- Senator Rapert
- and his godly mission.
- 1426
- 01:08:55,696 --> 01:08:56,784
- Most of our viewers
- 1427
- 01:08:57,089 --> 01:08:58,830
- are born-again believers
- or Christians,
- 1428
- 01:08:59,004 --> 01:09:02,399
- and they applaud
- the Ten Commandments monument
- 1429
- 01:09:02,573 --> 01:09:03,573
- on the State Capitol.
- 1430
- 01:09:04,052 --> 01:09:06,664
- It's a...
- it's never happened before.
- 1431
- 01:09:06,838 --> 01:09:10,450
- The... the church in America
- has been silent for too long.
- 1432
- 01:09:10,624 --> 01:09:13,236
- The Satanic Temple,
- as much as they posture
- 1433
- 01:09:13,410 --> 01:09:15,847
- and much as they holler
- at the State of Arkansas,
- 1434
- 01:09:16,108 --> 01:09:18,632
- they cannot force
- a monument of Baphomet
- 1435
- 01:09:18,806 --> 01:09:20,156
- on our Capitol grounds.
- 1436
- 01:09:22,462 --> 01:09:23,855
- Nothing would make me happier
- 1437
- 01:09:24,029 --> 01:09:26,553
- than to see Baphomet
- on our Capitol grounds.
- 1438
- 01:09:34,561 --> 01:09:35,954
- I would love to see Baphomet.
- 1439
- 01:09:37,651 --> 01:09:40,176
- I would love to see
- the Hindus, the Buddhists,
- 1440
- 01:09:40,350 --> 01:09:42,656
- everyone have their fair piece
- of the lawn out there,
- 1441
- 01:09:42,830 --> 01:09:44,180
- their piece of the grass.
- 1442
- 01:09:48,140 --> 01:09:51,012
- When I look at Baphomet,
- I see the voice of the marginalized,
- 1443
- 01:09:51,230 --> 01:09:54,190
- the voices of the hated,
- the voice of the misunderstood,
- 1444
- 01:09:55,191 --> 01:09:59,107
- the voice of the folks
- who don't agree mindlessly
- 1445
- 01:09:59,282 --> 01:10:01,284
- with what the majority
- is telling them.
- 1446
- 01:10:02,372 --> 01:10:03,764
- You know,
- I'm an ordained minister
- 1447
- 01:10:03,938 --> 01:10:05,462
- before I got
- into politics as well,
- 1448
- 01:10:05,636 --> 01:10:08,726
- and I want to say on this,
- what this nation needs
- 1449
- 01:10:08,900 --> 01:10:11,250
- is an overflowing
- of the anointing of God.
- 1450
- 01:10:11,424 --> 01:10:13,121
- We will not live
- by your commandments.
- 1451
- 01:10:13,296 --> 01:10:14,732
- - We're free!
- - [crowd hollering]
- 1452
- 01:10:14,906 --> 01:10:18,039
- Those who will not live
- by the law...
- 1453
- 01:10:18,214 --> 01:10:22,653
- - [crowd hollering]
- - ...shall die by the law!
- 1454
- 01:10:22,827 --> 01:10:24,263
- [hollering continues]
- 1455
- 01:10:29,964 --> 01:10:31,662
- Mason: I think
- we can all come together
- 1456
- 01:10:31,836 --> 01:10:35,231
- and have a reconciliation
- and all coexist.
- 1457
- 01:10:39,147 --> 01:10:41,628
- Jay D: I would love
- to see the Baphomet
- 1458
- 01:10:41,802 --> 01:10:43,717
- standing next to a
- Ten Commandments monument
- 1459
- 01:10:43,891 --> 01:10:46,459
- to represent
- religious pluralism,
- 1460
- 01:10:46,764 --> 01:10:50,550
- one of the greatest features
- of the American experiment.
- 1461
- 01:10:52,248 --> 01:10:53,814
- It's... [laughs] It's...
- 1462
- 01:10:54,032 --> 01:10:56,077
- I... It's probably
- never gonna happen.
- 1463
- 01:10:59,646 --> 01:11:03,737
- Woman:
- 1464
- 01:11:04,477 --> 01:11:08,394
- I actually chose a couple spots
- I thought would be nice for it,
- 1465
- 01:11:08,568 --> 01:11:10,614
- and they said,
- "Well, how about this spot?"
- 1466
- 01:11:10,788 --> 01:11:12,572
- they...
- they kind of wanted me to take.
- 1467
- 01:11:13,181 --> 01:11:15,575
- - So is that something...
- - Most easily run into
- 1468
- 01:11:15,749 --> 01:11:18,186
- - by a truck from the road.
- - [all chuckle]
- 1469
- 01:11:28,588 --> 01:11:30,388
- Stu: We're trying to do this
- within the system
- 1470
- 01:11:30,460 --> 01:11:32,394
- because that's the best way
- to challenge the system
- 1471
- 01:11:32,418 --> 01:11:34,638
- is to kind of use their laws
- 1472
- 01:11:34,812 --> 01:11:36,814
- and the system
- they've created against them.
- 1473
- 01:11:38,424 --> 01:11:40,644
- Reporter:
- Satanists sue Missouri.
- 1474
- 01:11:41,340 --> 01:11:42,820
- Abortion rights
- were the focus today
- 1475
- 01:11:42,994 --> 01:11:44,300
- in the Missouri Supreme Court.
- 1476
- 01:11:44,474 --> 01:11:46,302
- Current Missouri law
- requires a woman
- 1477
- 01:11:46,476 --> 01:11:49,087
- be given an informational
- booklet on abortion.
- 1478
- 01:11:49,261 --> 01:11:52,656
- Woman: Paperwork that said,
- "Life starts at conception."
- 1479
- 01:11:52,830 --> 01:11:54,614
- Mary Doe is suing
- Missouri Governor,
- 1480
- 01:11:54,788 --> 01:11:56,050
- Eric Greitens.
- 1481
- 01:11:56,790 --> 01:11:59,184
- I think that if we're being sued
- by the Satanic Temple,
- 1482
- 01:11:59,619 --> 01:12:01,186
- we got to be doing
- something right.
- 1483
- 01:12:01,534 --> 01:12:03,815
- We're doing something right
- here in the State of Missouri.
- 1484
- 01:12:05,103 --> 01:12:07,323
- Thank you. Thank you.
- 1485
- 01:12:07,497 --> 01:12:09,107
- Jay D: This lawsuit
- by the Satanic Temple
- 1486
- 01:12:09,368 --> 01:12:13,633
- on behalf of one of its members
- is like the Hobby Lobby case.
- 1487
- 01:12:14,286 --> 01:12:16,606
- Reporter: The evangelical Christian owners
- of Hobby Lobby
- 1488
- 01:12:16,680 --> 01:12:19,073
- craft stores
- challenged Obamacare
- 1489
- 01:12:19,247 --> 01:12:20,988
- that requires
- for-profit companies
- 1490
- 01:12:21,162 --> 01:12:23,513
- to provide comprehensive
- birth control coverage,
- 1491
- 01:12:23,687 --> 01:12:26,385
- saying it violated
- their religious beliefs.
- 1492
- 01:12:26,994 --> 01:12:28,842
- Given the court's ruling
- in favor of Hobby Lobby,
- 1493
- 01:12:28,866 --> 01:12:30,520
- the Satanic Temple
- has some sincerely-held
- 1494
- 01:12:30,694 --> 01:12:32,260
- religious beliefs of its own.
- 1495
- 01:12:32,696 --> 01:12:35,022
- The Satanists believe that, quote,
- "The body is inviolable
- 1496
- 01:12:35,046 --> 01:12:37,048
- subject to one's
- own will alone."
- 1497
- 01:12:37,309 --> 01:12:39,109
- And they say they strive
- to make all decisions
- 1498
- 01:12:39,180 --> 01:12:40,420
- regarding personal health based
- 1499
- 01:12:41,008 --> 01:12:42,725
- on the best scientific
- understanding of the world.
- 1500
- 01:12:42,749 --> 01:12:44,466
- It's brilliant, right?
- Because one of the things
- 1501
- 01:12:44,490 --> 01:12:46,840
- the Supreme Court said
- in its Hobby Lobby decision
- 1502
- 01:12:47,014 --> 01:12:49,887
- is we can't question
- people's religious beliefs.
- 1503
- 01:12:50,061 --> 01:12:52,106
- If they say it violates
- their religious beliefs,
- 1504
- 01:12:52,280 --> 01:12:55,196
- so be it. She should be exempted
- from that law.
- 1505
- 01:12:55,588 --> 01:12:57,468
- Judge: We're ready to proceed
- on the first case.
- 1506
- 01:12:58,983 --> 01:13:00,352
- - James: Good morning.
- - Judge: Morning.
- 1507
- 01:13:00,376 --> 01:13:01,616
- James: May it please the court,
- 1508
- 01:13:02,290 --> 01:13:05,990
- it's appalling that the state
- of Missouri legislates into law
- 1509
- 01:13:06,512 --> 01:13:09,428
- that a human life
- comes into existence
- 1510
- 01:13:09,907 --> 01:13:11,909
- at conception. And if you...
- 1511
- 01:13:12,083 --> 01:13:14,564
- What creates the presumption
- that the statute
- 1512
- 01:13:14,738 --> 01:13:16,653
- that says
- life begins at conception
- 1513
- 01:13:17,393 --> 01:13:19,743
- is solely based
- on a religious tenet?
- 1514
- 01:13:20,221 --> 01:13:23,268
- There is no scientific basis
- for it.
- 1515
- 01:13:23,877 --> 01:13:26,358
- It's just a proposition.
- 1516
- 01:13:26,750 --> 01:13:29,492
- It's like saying,
- "Jesus rose from the dead."
- 1517
- 01:13:29,709 --> 01:13:33,234
- You can believe that,
- but you'd be appalled
- 1518
- 01:13:33,409 --> 01:13:37,500
- if the Missouri legislature
- legislated that into law.
- 1519
- 01:13:43,157 --> 01:13:45,769
- The thing is I know we...
- if we talk with our lawyer,
- 1520
- 01:13:45,943 --> 01:13:47,423
- he's gonna say, like,
- "No,
- 1521
- 01:13:47,640 --> 01:13:50,338
- people just don't understand
- what this really means."
- 1522
- 01:13:50,513 --> 01:13:51,664
- [indistinct chatter
- over the phone]
- 1523
- 01:13:51,688 --> 01:13:53,864
- Lucien: Lawsuits move so slow.
- 1524
- 01:13:54,908 --> 01:13:56,780
- I mean, nothing's been resolved,
- you know?
- 1525
- 01:13:56,954 --> 01:13:57,998
- Nothing's happened,
- 1526
- 01:13:58,912 --> 01:14:02,263
- and it's... it's... And yet
- it's a pi... It's a massive...
- 1527
- 01:14:02,612 --> 01:14:04,004
- it's a massive legal bill...
- 1528
- 01:14:05,092 --> 01:14:07,921
- and there's really nothing
- so far to show for it.
- 1529
- 01:14:12,099 --> 01:14:16,408
- We're paying for it through...
- just the regular donations
- 1530
- 01:14:16,582 --> 01:14:20,151
- we receive and proceeds
- from merchandise sales.
- 1531
- 01:14:21,152 --> 01:14:22,849
- It broke the
- 100,000 dollar mark
- 1532
- 01:14:23,023 --> 01:14:24,155
- some time ago,
- 1533
- 01:14:24,677 --> 01:14:26,940
- and I'm not sure how far
- it's exceeded that by now.
- 1534
- 01:14:27,114 --> 01:14:30,117
- I mean... it just hurts
- my feelings to look at it.
- 1535
- 01:14:42,869 --> 01:14:44,958
- There's no doubt that
- this is my life's work...
- 1536
- 01:14:47,308 --> 01:14:49,572
- and I don't want
- the Satanic Temple
- 1537
- 01:14:49,746 --> 01:14:51,225
- to be known for me,
- 1538
- 01:14:51,661 --> 01:14:54,707
- but the success or failure
- of the Satanic Temple
- 1539
- 01:14:54,881 --> 01:14:57,318
- has always been,
- uh, you know,
- 1540
- 01:14:57,493 --> 01:14:59,625
- either my vindication
- or failure.
- 1541
- 01:15:15,859 --> 01:15:17,861
- William: As the
- Satanic Temple developed,
- 1542
- 01:15:18,035 --> 01:15:19,906
- we would hear less and less
- from Jex.
- 1543
- 01:15:23,519 --> 01:15:26,870
- And Detroit became
- a bit of a mystery even to us,
- 1544
- 01:15:27,044 --> 01:15:30,177
- um, in terms of what was
- going on with the chapter...
- 1545
- 01:15:32,005 --> 01:15:33,137
- which was under her control.
- 1546
- 01:15:34,486 --> 01:15:37,750
- After centuries of biblical
- patriarchal dominance,
- 1547
- 01:15:37,924 --> 01:15:40,361
- the annihilation of native
- and diverse cultures,
- 1548
- 01:15:40,536 --> 01:15:42,755
- the propagation of racism
- and homophobia,
- 1549
- 01:15:42,929 --> 01:15:45,366
- we owe our oppressors!
- 1550
- 01:15:46,280 --> 01:15:50,284
- We owe them hostility,
- inextinguishable justice,
- 1551
- 01:15:50,458 --> 01:15:53,244
- and uncompromising destruction.
- 1552
- 01:15:54,724 --> 01:15:56,116
- We outnumber them.
- 1553
- 01:15:56,682 --> 01:15:59,163
- We possess the fortitude
- to bring down powerful men
- 1554
- 01:15:59,337 --> 01:16:01,208
- and dismantle racist systems.
- 1555
- 01:16:01,426 --> 01:16:03,950
- Their existence
- is only made possible
- 1556
- 01:16:04,124 --> 01:16:05,735
- by our own inaction.
- 1557
- 01:16:06,866 --> 01:16:10,391
- They have given us just enough
- to have something to lose.
- 1558
- 01:16:10,609 --> 01:16:13,743
- They have built a system
- that grinds us down,
- 1559
- 01:16:13,917 --> 01:16:16,006
- and they tell us
- to swallow our grief
- 1560
- 01:16:16,180 --> 01:16:18,748
- and our rage in the name
- of respectability,
- 1561
- 01:16:18,922 --> 01:16:21,794
- that obedience is patriotism.
- 1562
- 01:16:23,579 --> 01:16:26,103
- There is no model
- for moving forward.
- 1563
- 01:16:26,277 --> 01:16:27,713
- We are the model.
- 1564
- 01:16:28,235 --> 01:16:31,978
- Who taught you how to protest?
- Who taught you how to get mad?
- 1565
- 01:16:32,413 --> 01:16:34,328
- Who taught you how to speak up?
- 1566
- 01:16:34,590 --> 01:16:39,856
- 'Cause we are going to disrupt,
- distort, destroy,
- 1567
- 01:16:40,160 --> 01:16:44,208
- and reclaim, resist,
- and rebuild!
- 1568
- 01:16:54,087 --> 01:16:56,524
- - Hail Satan!
- - All: Hail Satan!
- 1569
- 01:16:56,699 --> 01:16:59,179
- - Hail Satan!
- - All: Hail Satan!
- 1570
- 01:16:59,353 --> 01:17:02,095
- - Hail Satan!
- - All: Hail Satan!
- 1571
- 01:17:02,269 --> 01:17:09,102
- - Hail Satan!
- - [all shrieking]
- 1572
- 01:17:21,549 --> 01:17:24,901
- [sighs] How do I put this?
- Hmm. Let me think.
- 1573
- 01:17:25,423 --> 01:17:29,122
- She called for, um,
- Donald Trump to be killed.
- 1574
- 01:17:29,645 --> 01:17:31,081
- Um, that's obviously problematic
- 1575
- 01:17:31,385 --> 01:17:33,425
- because we are a completely
- nonviolent organization,
- 1576
- 01:17:33,518 --> 01:17:36,216
- and that's completely
- against our ethics.
- 1577
- 01:17:38,828 --> 01:17:41,308
- It was glaringly obvious
- that Jex,
- 1578
- 01:17:41,831 --> 01:17:43,659
- being the wild card
- that she is,
- 1579
- 01:17:43,833 --> 01:17:46,270
- wasn't really gonna fit
- in the organization anymore,
- 1580
- 01:17:46,923 --> 01:17:49,752
- so Jex Blackmore is no longer
- part of the Temple
- 1581
- 01:17:49,926 --> 01:17:50,926
- at this point.
- 1582
- 01:17:54,626 --> 01:17:58,456
- Lucien: Um, I called her,
- ultimately, but that was, uh,
- 1583
- 01:17:59,109 --> 01:18:01,720
- that was a National Council
- discussion. Uh...
- 1584
- 01:18:03,287 --> 01:18:05,028
- she said what she said,
- 1585
- 01:18:05,245 --> 01:18:08,727
- and we just couldn't have
- a double standard for anybody.
- 1586
- 01:18:11,425 --> 01:18:13,340
- I don't want to go off
- on camera right here.
- 1587
- 01:18:13,514 --> 01:18:15,492
- - Woman: I understand.
- - About the injustice of that
- 1588
- 01:18:15,516 --> 01:18:18,476
- in many different ways,
- but yeah, it's been a lot.
- 1589
- 01:18:20,521 --> 01:18:23,481
- I have to say
- it does feel a little bit
- 1590
- 01:18:24,264 --> 01:18:26,919
- satisfying to be...
- 1591
- 01:18:28,486 --> 01:18:30,009
- you know,
- fired from the Satanic Temple
- 1592
- 01:18:30,183 --> 01:18:31,358
- for being too extreme.
- 1593
- 01:18:36,755 --> 01:18:38,714
- There's a great fear
- that we are going to do
- 1594
- 01:18:38,888 --> 01:18:40,280
- something that is so offensive
- 1595
- 01:18:40,541 --> 01:18:42,718
- that it's going to somehow
- discredit our work.
- 1596
- 01:18:42,892 --> 01:18:44,763
- I mean,
- we're a Satanic organization.
- 1597
- 01:18:45,372 --> 01:18:49,942
- There's, like, this...
- this fear of our legal system
- 1598
- 01:18:50,116 --> 01:18:52,989
- that is part of what
- I'm fighting against,
- 1599
- 01:18:53,380 --> 01:18:55,100
- and part of what I think
- is important for us
- 1600
- 01:18:55,165 --> 01:18:56,514
- to be liberated from.
- 1601
- 01:18:58,777 --> 01:18:59,822
- Lucien: I love Jex.
- 1602
- 01:19:00,431 --> 01:19:01,756
- I worked with her
- from the beginning,
- 1603
- 01:19:01,780 --> 01:19:03,608
- and it's really quite sad,
- 1604
- 01:19:03,782 --> 01:19:08,526
- but... you know, as we cohere
- this organizational structure,
- 1605
- 01:19:09,440 --> 01:19:13,400
- we have to have a kind
- of uniform set of rules.
- 1606
- 01:19:13,792 --> 01:19:17,274
- We lose some things and we gain
- some things from that, I guess.
- 1607
- 01:19:18,754 --> 01:19:20,146
- One, two, three, four.
- 1608
- 01:19:28,938 --> 01:19:30,654
- Jex: Like, the reality
- is the Satanic Temple
- 1609
- 01:19:30,678 --> 01:19:32,898
- has become formalized
- in a way
- 1610
- 01:19:33,072 --> 01:19:35,248
- that is a much more
- traditional institution.
- 1611
- 01:19:37,381 --> 01:19:40,123
- I fear that that special space
- 1612
- 01:19:40,297 --> 01:19:43,822
- that was created for people... is gone.
- 1613
- 01:20:07,628 --> 01:20:09,500
- Man: [chuckles]
- 1614
- 01:20:09,674 --> 01:20:11,284
- Lucien: Yeah, more or less.
- 1615
- 01:20:11,458 --> 01:20:13,417
- I mean,
- I assume they need to drill?
- 1616
- 01:20:13,591 --> 01:20:14,591
- Yeah.
- 1617
- 01:20:19,684 --> 01:20:20,924
- Woman: Hey, good morning, guys.
- 1618
- 01:20:21,251 --> 01:20:22,531
- We are here
- at the State Capitol.
- 1619
- 01:20:22,861 --> 01:20:24,602
- In just a few hours
- we are expected to see
- 1620
- 01:20:24,776 --> 01:20:26,778
- the Ten Commandments
- monument back up.
- 1621
- 01:20:37,615 --> 01:20:39,922
- So Article Two, Section 24
- 1622
- 01:20:40,096 --> 01:20:41,662
- of the Arkansas
- State Constitution
- 1623
- 01:20:41,967 --> 01:20:45,405
- says that there shall never be
- any preference given by law
- 1624
- 01:20:45,579 --> 01:20:48,495
- to an establishment
- of religion, a denomination...
- 1625
- 01:20:48,669 --> 01:20:49,801
- Man: Your head's cut off.
- 1626
- 01:20:50,410 --> 01:20:51,498
- - Lucien: Okay.
- - Yeah.
- 1627
- 01:20:52,543 --> 01:20:55,024
- Anyways, the point is,
- is when a senator tries
- 1628
- 01:20:55,198 --> 01:20:56,895
- to take ownership
- of your religion,
- 1629
- 01:20:57,069 --> 01:20:59,724
- give it over to the government,
- uh, that's a...
- 1630
- 01:21:01,247 --> 01:21:02,901
- Any Christian
- should be offended.
- 1631
- 01:21:08,472 --> 01:21:10,866
- [indistinct chatter]
- 1632
- 01:21:11,040 --> 01:21:12,128
- Yeah, yeah.
- 1633
- 01:21:17,611 --> 01:21:19,483
- [line ringing]
- 1634
- 01:21:20,353 --> 01:21:22,573
- - Man: Hello?
- - Stu: Hey, it's Stu.
- 1635
- 01:21:32,757 --> 01:21:33,757
- I did. I saw it.
- 1636
- 01:21:33,932 --> 01:21:35,194
- Wake up, America.
- 1637
- 01:21:35,455 --> 01:21:38,415
- Wake up, church.
- Wake up, Christians.
- 1638
- 01:21:39,546 --> 01:21:41,505
- It's about time
- in the United States of America,
- 1639
- 01:21:41,679 --> 01:21:42,679
- as a Christian nation,
- 1640
- 01:21:43,202 --> 01:21:44,527
- we get back to upholding
- what we believe in.
- 1641
- 01:21:44,551 --> 01:21:45,591
- - Woman: Amen!
- - Man: Amen!
- 1642
- 01:21:45,988 --> 01:21:48,991
- Rapert:
- This is a Christian nation.
- 1643
- 01:21:50,253 --> 01:21:51,795
- Stu: I can't see
- how they could possibly
- 1644
- 01:21:51,819 --> 01:21:52,820
- get around this stuff.
- 1645
- 01:21:53,865 --> 01:21:54,865
- This is a violation,
- 1646
- 01:21:55,301 --> 01:21:56,781
- and they just
- completely ignored it.
- 1647
- 01:21:57,216 --> 01:22:00,176
- You know, once the thing
- is going, we'll file.
- 1648
- 01:22:00,872 --> 01:22:02,700
- Lawyer: I...
- I'm just really hard-pressed
- 1649
- 01:22:02,874 --> 01:22:05,529
- to come up with a way in which
- we could lose this case.
- 1650
- 01:22:05,703 --> 01:22:06,834
- [chuckles]
- 1651
- 01:22:14,277 --> 01:22:16,061
- We want to put up monuments
- in every state,
- 1652
- 01:22:16,235 --> 01:22:17,933
- every county, every city
- and every town
- 1653
- 01:22:18,107 --> 01:22:19,587
- and every organization
- that wants one,
- 1654
- 01:22:19,630 --> 01:22:20,805
- we're gonna help you do that.
- 1655
- 01:22:24,896 --> 01:22:27,029
- Why are there Ten
- Commandments monuments bills
- 1656
- 01:22:27,203 --> 01:22:28,856
- simultaneously
- in multiple states?
- 1657
- 01:22:29,770 --> 01:22:31,772
- Why are there abortion
- restriction bills,
- 1658
- 01:22:31,947 --> 01:22:35,733
- anti-LGBT bills simultaneously
- across different states?
- 1659
- 01:22:36,081 --> 01:22:37,865
- Clearly there
- is a concerted effort,
- 1660
- 01:22:38,301 --> 01:22:39,621
- and that
- is not religious liberty.
- 1661
- 01:22:39,693 --> 01:22:40,956
- That's Christian supremacy.
- 1662
- 01:22:41,130 --> 01:22:44,698
- ♪ I put a spell on you ♪
- 1663
- 01:22:45,134 --> 01:22:48,615
- ♪ Because you're mine ♪
- 1664
- 01:22:49,399 --> 01:22:52,793
- ♪ I can't stand
- The things that you do ♪
- 1665
- 01:22:53,055 --> 01:22:57,450
- ♪ No, no, no
- No, I ain't lyin' ♪
- 1666
- 01:22:58,234 --> 01:23:02,716
- No, I don't care
- If you don't want me... ♪
- 1667
- 01:23:04,544 --> 01:23:06,198
- Stu: I mean,
- we have to push this back
- 1668
- 01:23:06,372 --> 01:23:08,292
- because what they're
- looking for is, essentially,
- 1669
- 01:23:08,331 --> 01:23:10,681
- some kind of Christian Sharia law,
- their version of it...
- 1670
- 01:23:11,812 --> 01:23:15,555
- where legislation
- and their view of morals
- 1671
- 01:23:15,729 --> 01:23:17,166
- is implemented by a church
- 1672
- 01:23:17,340 --> 01:23:18,689
- that a lot of us
- aren't a part of,
- 1673
- 01:23:19,168 --> 01:23:20,821
- and we just
- can't let that happen.
- 1674
- 01:23:23,389 --> 01:23:25,739
- [crowd applauding]
- 1675
- 01:23:26,088 --> 01:23:29,743
- ♪ I love you, I love you
- Yah yah gow ♪
- 1676
- 01:23:43,279 --> 01:23:47,239
- ♪ I put a spell on you ♪
- 1677
- 01:23:47,413 --> 01:23:50,460
- ♪ Lord, lord, lord ♪
- 1678
- 01:23:50,721 --> 01:23:54,333
- ♪ 'Cause you're mine
- Yeah ♪
- 1679
- 01:23:54,507 --> 01:23:56,988
- ♪ I can't stand the things
- That you do ♪
- 1680
- 01:23:57,162 --> 01:24:00,948
- ♪ When you're foolin' around ♪
- 1681
- 01:24:01,688 --> 01:24:05,301
- ♪ I don't care
- If you don't want me ♪
- 1682
- 01:24:05,475 --> 01:24:08,565
- ♪ 'Cause I'm yours
- Yours, yours ♪
- 1683
- 01:24:09,000 --> 01:24:13,004
- ♪ Anyhow, yeah ♪
- 1684
- 01:24:13,178 --> 01:24:17,226
- ♪ Yeah yeah yeah ♪
- 1685
- 01:24:23,928 --> 01:24:25,016
- One, two, three.
- 1686
- 01:24:28,933 --> 01:24:32,676
- [indistinct chatter]
- 1687
- 01:24:41,946 --> 01:24:44,383
- [owl hoots]
- 1688
- 01:24:52,652 --> 01:24:54,413
- Reporter: The Satanic Temple
- will hold a rally
- 1689
- 01:24:54,437 --> 01:24:55,655
- at the Arkansas
- State Capitol
- 1690
- 01:24:55,829 --> 01:24:57,701
- Thursday, August 16th.
- 1691
- 01:24:58,571 --> 01:24:59,833
- The centerpiece of the rally
- 1692
- 01:25:00,182 --> 01:25:02,619
- will be a Satanic statue
- of Baphomet.
- 1693
- 01:25:03,663 --> 01:25:05,685
- Reporter 1: The Satanic Temple
- says the organization
- 1694
- 01:25:05,709 --> 01:25:07,319
- is being discriminated against
- 1695
- 01:25:07,493 --> 01:25:09,191
- because the state
- will not install
- 1696
- 01:25:09,365 --> 01:25:12,107
- a Satanic monument
- on the Capitol grounds.
- 1697
- 01:25:22,726 --> 01:25:26,033
- I'm Shiva. I'm the Director
- of National Events for TST,
- 1698
- 01:25:26,208 --> 01:25:28,645
- and I thought we could start
- by going around the room.
- 1699
- 01:25:29,036 --> 01:25:30,396
- I'm from right here
- in Little Rock,
- 1700
- 01:25:30,429 --> 01:25:31,996
- and I am tickled pink
- that all of you
- 1701
- 01:25:32,170 --> 01:25:34,912
- are here in our fair city.
- Tomorrow's gonna be fun.
- 1702
- 01:25:35,695 --> 01:25:38,742
- I'm from El Paso, Texas.
- I'm with Frontera Satanica.
- 1703
- 01:25:39,046 --> 01:25:41,048
- I'm one of the cofounders
- of Satanic Arkansas,
- 1704
- 01:25:41,223 --> 01:25:43,877
- and we are super stoked
- that you guys are here.
- 1705
- 01:25:44,051 --> 01:25:46,315
- I'm Lanzifer Longinus.
- 1706
- 01:25:46,489 --> 01:25:49,535
- I'm... I'm head
- of the San Marcos chapter.
- 1707
- 01:25:49,927 --> 01:25:51,767
- Man: I was the head
- of the San Antonio chapter,
- 1708
- 01:25:51,929 --> 01:25:53,844
- and, um, the Devil's work
- is never done.
- 1709
- 01:25:54,105 --> 01:25:57,500
- I'm Jeremy, Skullcrusher
- if we're using pseudonyms.
- 1710
- 01:25:57,674 --> 01:25:59,502
- And I am the Monster
- from Atlanta.
- 1711
- 01:25:59,676 --> 01:26:01,591
- - [all laugh]
- - And, uh,
- 1712
- 01:26:01,808 --> 01:26:03,245
- I'm just here
- to support something
- 1713
- 01:26:03,419 --> 01:26:04,681
- that's very important to me.
- 1714
- 01:26:05,595 --> 01:26:06,995
- Glad to be here.
- Fuckin' hail Satan.
- 1715
- 01:26:07,118 --> 01:26:09,990
- [all laughing]
- 1716
- 01:26:16,475 --> 01:26:19,435
- [keyboard keys clicking]
- 1717
- 01:26:23,265 --> 01:26:24,527
- Woman: Are you excited?
- 1718
- 01:26:28,705 --> 01:26:29,706
- No.
- 1719
- 01:26:43,241 --> 01:26:44,521
- Man: They're gonna have, I guess
- 1720
- 01:26:44,764 --> 01:26:47,289
- a nine-foot-tall statue
- of Satan.
- 1721
- 01:26:48,681 --> 01:26:52,294
- Well, we came here today
- in order to negate that.
- 1722
- 01:26:53,817 --> 01:26:54,817
- Boy: Honk the horn.
- 1723
- 01:26:55,253 --> 01:26:57,777
- - [car horn honking]
- - God bless you.
- 1724
- 01:26:57,951 --> 01:26:59,649
- [indistinct chatter]
- 1725
- 01:27:03,174 --> 01:27:04,567
- Woman: Their platform
- is separation
- 1726
- 01:27:04,741 --> 01:27:05,872
- of church and state,
- 1727
- 01:27:06,308 --> 01:27:09,311
- which makes it sound
- really nice, so yeah.
- 1728
- 01:27:09,485 --> 01:27:12,270
- They just want to irritate,
- if you want to know the truth.
- 1729
- 01:27:18,668 --> 01:27:19,843
- We're a Christian country,
- 1730
- 01:27:20,452 --> 01:27:22,628
- and so they don't have
- the right to alter that.
- 1731
- 01:27:23,107 --> 01:27:24,987
- They don't have a right
- to put their monstrosity
- 1732
- 01:27:25,065 --> 01:27:26,066
- on the State Capitol.
- 1733
- 01:27:26,458 --> 01:27:28,025
- Man: But do we
- really wanna believe
- 1734
- 01:27:28,286 --> 01:27:30,462
- there's no consequence
- but God?
- 1735
- 01:27:30,810 --> 01:27:33,683
- There is this individual
- that has,
- 1736
- 01:27:33,857 --> 01:27:35,772
- like, a previous conviction
- for planning,
- 1737
- 01:27:36,294 --> 01:27:38,035
- - you know, mass shootings...
- - Hmm.
- 1738
- 01:27:38,514 --> 01:27:40,864
- Hollow:
- ...and our anonymous sources
- 1739
- 01:27:41,038 --> 01:27:42,624
- have said that he will
- definitely be there,
- 1740
- 01:27:42,648 --> 01:27:43,954
- and that is a concern.
- 1741
- 01:27:44,520 --> 01:27:45,920
- And what happens
- if you see somebody
- 1742
- 01:27:46,043 --> 01:27:47,740
- that I don't see
- pulling some shit?
- 1743
- 01:27:47,914 --> 01:27:49,568
- Hollow: So we've got
- the outer team,
- 1744
- 01:27:49,742 --> 01:27:51,962
- which I think at this point
- is gonna be six people,
- 1745
- 01:27:52,267 --> 01:27:54,921
- so they should see
- something first.
- 1746
- 01:27:55,095 --> 01:27:58,011
- Somebody's gonna have to really
- get through two layers
- 1747
- 01:27:58,185 --> 01:28:01,188
- of people to get to you.
- That makes it very implausible.
- 1748
- 01:28:01,972 --> 01:28:04,148
- Well, I don't think
- anybody else around here
- 1749
- 01:28:04,322 --> 01:28:05,541
- is really considered a target,
- 1750
- 01:28:05,976 --> 01:28:07,978
- so I think that's really all
- we're worried about.
- 1751
- 01:28:24,690 --> 01:28:27,214
- Lucien: This is the infancy
- of the Satanic Temple.
- 1752
- 01:28:28,128 --> 01:28:31,175
- In our own humble little way,
- we are changing the world.
- 1753
- 01:28:33,308 --> 01:28:35,266
- More and more as time goes on,
- 1754
- 01:28:36,006 --> 01:28:39,749
- people are seeing that we are
- a genuine movement.
- 1755
- 01:28:41,577 --> 01:28:43,883
- This would be very difficult
- to maintain
- 1756
- 01:28:44,319 --> 01:28:47,800
- if somewhere
- in any of our minds,
- 1757
- 01:28:47,974 --> 01:28:50,020
- those of us who are actively
- working on this,
- 1758
- 01:28:50,194 --> 01:28:51,500
- we didn't truly believe
- 1759
- 01:28:51,848 --> 01:28:53,850
- in every element
- of what we're doing...
- 1760
- 01:28:55,112 --> 01:28:57,941
- and to be doing this
- as anything other
- 1761
- 01:28:58,637 --> 01:29:01,945
- than an authentic expression
- of who we are...
- 1762
- 01:29:02,859 --> 01:29:07,994
- I just can't see doing that
- without being psychotic,
- 1763
- 01:29:08,168 --> 01:29:12,347
- which I guess...
- is... is a theory. [chuckles]
- 1764
- 01:29:16,133 --> 01:29:19,354
- It is out of not only Satanism
- but patriotism
- 1765
- 01:29:20,180 --> 01:29:22,487
- that I am motivated
- to come to protest events,
- 1766
- 01:29:23,183 --> 01:29:25,838
- to have the pilgrimage,
- to visibly be a part
- 1767
- 01:29:26,012 --> 01:29:27,884
- of a declaration
- of those beliefs.
- 1768
- 01:29:29,799 --> 01:29:32,410
- That's an ancient
- human religious tradition.
- 1769
- 01:29:32,584 --> 01:29:33,803
- I mean,
- that's the pilgrimage.
- 1770
- 01:29:35,544 --> 01:29:37,304
- Stu: I think it's a sense
- of duty to do this.
- 1771
- 01:29:37,415 --> 01:29:39,809
- I don't even feel like
- it's optional at this point.
- 1772
- 01:29:40,897 --> 01:29:43,334
- Michelle: You know,
- you see Christian theocracy
- 1773
- 01:29:43,508 --> 01:29:47,164
- just, you know, creeping itself
- into our government, you know,
- 1774
- 01:29:47,338 --> 01:29:51,037
- and they're not gonna stop.
- They're just gonna continue,
- 1775
- 01:29:51,429 --> 01:29:54,171
- and it is our duty
- as the adversary
- 1776
- 01:29:54,389 --> 01:29:55,651
- to stand up to this.
- 1777
- 01:29:58,828 --> 01:30:00,438
- I could just go along
- and just be a quiet
- 1778
- 01:30:00,612 --> 01:30:03,267
- little secular individual,
- like a lot of people do.
- 1779
- 01:30:03,615 --> 01:30:05,158
- I... I don't want to say
- the phrase, like,
- 1780
- 01:30:05,182 --> 01:30:06,836
- "this has given
- my life purpose,"
- 1781
- 01:30:07,010 --> 01:30:09,752
- but I would say
- that this makes life fun.
- 1782
- 01:30:12,407 --> 01:30:16,715
- Radical Satanism
- has its claws... [chuckles]
- 1783
- 01:30:16,889 --> 01:30:18,529
- ...in the hearts of people
- across America,
- 1784
- 01:30:18,630 --> 01:30:19,870
- and I think that's... that's...
- 1785
- 01:30:19,979 --> 01:30:22,155
- that's something
- to pay attention to.
- 1786
- 01:30:26,116 --> 01:30:32,949
- [crowd cheering]
- 1787
- 01:30:43,873 --> 01:30:46,005
- ♪ Hallelujah ♪
- 1788
- 01:30:46,353 --> 01:30:48,355
- ♪ Hallelujah ♪
- 1789
- 01:30:48,530 --> 01:30:50,793
- ♪ Hallelujah, hallelujah ♪
- 1790
- 01:30:51,054 --> 01:30:53,622
- ♪ Hallelujah ♪
- 1791
- 01:30:54,013 --> 01:30:56,015
- ♪ Hallelujah... ♪
- 1792
- 01:30:56,407 --> 01:30:57,647
- Lucien: Good people of Arkansas
- 1793
- 01:30:57,800 --> 01:30:59,497
- and supporters
- of religious liberty,
- 1794
- 01:31:00,063 --> 01:31:04,459
- - I present to you Baphomet.
- - [crowd cheering]
- 1795
- 01:31:04,633 --> 01:31:07,897
- All: Holy Mary, mother of God,
- pray for us sinners,
- 1796
- 01:31:08,071 --> 01:31:10,552
- now and in the hour
- of our death, amen.
- 1797
- 01:31:10,726 --> 01:31:14,251
- Holy Mary, mother of God,
- pray for us sinners.
- 1798
- 01:31:15,905 --> 01:31:17,341
- Lucien: Baphomet
- on the same grounds
- 1799
- 01:31:17,515 --> 01:31:18,515
- as the Ten Commandments
- 1800
- 01:31:19,169 --> 01:31:21,650
- does not represent the conflict
- but a resolution.
- 1801
- 01:31:23,826 --> 01:31:26,437
- If Christianity
- abandons liberal democracy,
- 1802
- 01:31:26,611 --> 01:31:29,048
- it will have forfeited
- the future to Satan.
- 1803
- 01:31:30,093 --> 01:31:34,401
- - To which I say, hail Satan.
- - All: Hail Satan!
- 1804
- 01:31:34,576 --> 01:31:39,406
- [crowd cheering]
- 1805
- 01:31:54,639 --> 01:31:58,948
- ♪ Satan never sleeps ♪
- 1806
- 01:32:00,166 --> 01:32:02,429
- ♪ He walks behind you ♪
- 1807
- 01:32:02,604 --> 01:32:04,301
- ♪ Through the night ♪
- 1808
- 01:32:04,649 --> 01:32:11,569
- ♪ And through the day ♪
- 1809
- 01:32:12,614 --> 01:32:14,833
- ♪ Silently he creeps ♪
- 1810
- 01:32:16,835 --> 01:32:18,707
- ♪ He's always there ♪
- 1811
- 01:32:18,968 --> 01:32:21,274
- ♪ To put temptation ♪
- 1812
- 01:32:21,927 --> 01:32:24,582
- ♪ In your way ♪
- 1813
- 01:32:25,409 --> 01:32:26,453
- ♪ So ♪
- 1814
- 01:32:27,237 --> 01:32:29,239
- ♪♪ If you're ♪♪
- 1815
- 01:32:29,718 --> 01:32:31,894
- ♪ Burning with desire ♪
- 1816
- 01:32:33,722 --> 01:32:40,032
- ♪ He'll find
- A way to fan the fire ♪
- 1817
- 01:32:40,206 --> 01:32:41,338
- [hissing]
- 1818
- 01:32:42,252 --> 01:32:49,215
- ♪ Then in the embers
- Of the flame ♪
- 1819
- 01:32:49,912 --> 01:32:56,788
- ♪ You'll have
- Your foolish heart to blame ♪
- 1820
- 01:32:58,485 --> 01:33:01,488
- ♪ Oh, oh ♪
- 1821
- 01:33:02,577 --> 01:33:04,448
- ♪ Satan has a plan ♪
- 1822
- 01:33:07,190 --> 01:33:09,540
- ♪ He's out to capture you ♪
- 1823
- 01:33:10,019 --> 01:33:15,633
- ♪ In any way he can ♪
- 1824
- 01:33:18,723 --> 01:33:22,466
- ♪ Ever since the world began ♪
- 1825
- 01:33:24,207 --> 01:33:26,601
- ♪ He's tried to come between ♪
- 1826
- 01:33:27,166 --> 01:33:32,084
- ♪ A woman and a man ♪
- 1827
- 01:33:32,737 --> 01:33:37,176
- ♪ And so no matter ♪
- 1828
- 01:33:37,481 --> 01:33:39,701
- ♪ If you're great or small ♪
- 1829
- 01:33:40,136 --> 01:33:45,010
- ♪ He knows there's evil
- In us all ♪
- 1830
- 01:33:45,358 --> 01:33:47,839
- ♪ And that is why ♪
- 1831
- 01:33:49,711 --> 01:33:53,236
- ♪ Satan never ♪
- 1832
- 01:33:53,410 --> 01:33:58,328
- ♪ Sleeps ♪
- 1833
- 01:34:01,331 --> 01:34:02,419
- And I do want to clarify,
- 1834
- 01:34:02,941 --> 01:34:04,701
- we actually had just somebody
- two seconds ago
- 1835
- 01:34:04,769 --> 01:34:08,425
- drive past asking us where
- this Satanic Temple statue is.
- 1836
- 01:34:08,730 --> 01:34:10,993
- Just to clarify, that was here
- just for the rally
- 1837
- 01:34:11,167 --> 01:34:13,299
- and was taken away
- when that rally was over.
- 1838
- 01:34:13,473 --> 01:34:15,780
- Now, currently
- there is a lawsuit pending
- 1839
- 01:34:15,954 --> 01:34:17,303
- in federal court,
- 1840
- 01:34:17,782 --> 01:34:20,263
- the Satanic Temple claiming
- religious discrimination,
- 1841
- 01:34:20,698 --> 01:34:21,873
- while the state responding,
- 1842
- 01:34:22,134 --> 01:34:24,920
- calling the Satanic Temple
- a satire group.
- 1843
- 01:34:25,137 --> 01:34:29,968
- [eerie whispering]
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