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From robertsoncml2 at gmail.com  Mon Feb  1 09:58:38 2016
From: robertsoncml2 at gmail.com (Christopher Robertson)
Date: Mon, 1 Feb 2016 09:58:38 +0000
Subject: [Senco-forum] Steward
Message-ID: <CAFfXBEPwjXdt2HmjBMsYnaK-SUe6Hq1hfqmJDbYzig62MhHj6Q@mail.gmail.com>

Hi All,

I am on stewarding duty for the next fortnight. Not too long until
half-term ...

Please get in touch if you experience any difficulties using the forum.

Good wishes

Christopher
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From barbara.ball at asend.co.uk  Mon Feb  1 10:04:58 2016
From: barbara.ball at asend.co.uk (Barbara Ball)
Date: Mon, 1 Feb 2016 10:04:58 +0000
Subject: [Senco-forum] SEND funding package - more details
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Message-ID: <CADLu1_4zcC5r0TgcSkK7BHfPrbQXeEe+jJqLhRbK2dzYEJHPmA@mail.gmail.com>

The real concern for all of us is that when total school funding is
reduced, will pupils with special educational needs and disabilities be top
priority for most Heads? Experiences suggests that they will not be.
Worrying times.

Barbara Ball | *Managing Director ASEND*

Building 3, North London Business Park, London, N11 1GN

*At my desk:* 020 3668 1529
*On the move:* 07787 125 261
*Email:* barbara.ball at asend.co.uk
*www.asend.co.uk <http://www.asend.co.uk/>*

On 29 January 2016 at 13:35, Christopher Robertson <robertsoncml2 at gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hi Steve ....
>
> For information the funding issues you are alluding to, take a look at
> this short TES piece:
>
>
> https://www.tes.com/news/school-news/breaking-news/exclusive-schools-face-years-highly-challenging-budgets-says-senior
>
> Christopher
>
> On Fri, Jan 29, 2016 at 12:02 PM, Newton Steve <
> SNewton at littleport.cambs.sch.uk> wrote:
>
>> Unless I'm reading this wrong, it isn't additional funding to support SEN
>> children is it?  It reads like funding for LAs for the transition from
>> statements to EHCPs (which aren't how I anticipated them to be anyway) and
>> more funding for some charities.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>> *From:* Christopher Robertson [robertsoncml2 at gmail.com]
>> *Sent:* 29 January 2016 11:56
>> *To:* senco-forum new list
>> *Subject:* [Senco-forum] SEND funding package - more details
>>
>> Here is an extract from the DfE press release on SEND funding priorities:
>>
>>
>> A multi-million pound package ensuring thousands of children with special
>> educational needs and disability (SEND) have the same opportunities as
>> any other child has been announced today (29 January 2016).
>>
>> Children and Families Minister Edward Timpson said the ?80 million would
>> help transform the life chances of children across the country and ensure
>> every child, regardless of the challenges they face, can ?dream big? and
>> fulfil their potential.
>>
>> As part of its mission to extend opportunity to all, the government has
>> already introduced the biggest reforms to the SEND support system in a
>> generation by placing children and their families at the heart of the
>> system.
>>
>> Today?s announcement will increase funding for councils
>> <https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/send-reform-funding-for-local-authorities-2016-to-2017>
>> and support charities who work with some of the most vulnerable young
>> people in the country. Alongside this, the government is continuing
>> transition funding in 2017 to 2018 to help implement the reforms introduced
>> in 2014, building on the progress so far.
>>
>> Thanks to the government?s reforms, for the first time ever the needs of
>> children with complex SEND are all set out in one education, health and
>> care (EHC) plan
>> <https://www.gov.uk/children-with-special-educational-needs/extra-SEN-help>.
>> It also means that councils are legally required to take the views of
>> families into account when deciding on what support to offer.
>>
>> Children and Families Minister Edward Timpson said:
>>
>> Our vision for children with special educational needs and disability is
>> simple: that their aspirations are as high any other young person, that
>> they dream big, achieve well at school and college, and lead fulfilling,
>> happy lives.
>>
>> We?ve made fundamental changes to the law to provide that support and the
>> work I?ve seen so far, putting families at the heart of the process, is
>> inspiring - but we know there is still more to do to.
>>
>> I?m delighted that today we can announce that we are committing more
>> money to councils than last year, helping to make the transition for
>> families accessing support as smooth as possible.
>>
>> The funding announced today includes:
>>
>>    - ?35.8 million in implementation funding for local authorities in
>>    2016 to 2017
>>    <https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/send-reform-funding-for-local-authorities-2016-to-2017>,
>>    recognising the additional duties placed on them as a result of the
>>    transition to EHC plans - an increase of ?4 million on last year
>>    - ?27.3 million for the Family Fund Trust
>>    <http://www.familyfund.org.uk/> in 2016 to 2017 to support low income
>>    families with disabled children - they provide small scale grants, enabling
>>    them to make specific purchases and offering short respite breaks
>>    - ?15 million to fund the independent supporters programme
>>    <http://councilfordisabledchildren.org.uk/independentsupport> in 2016
>>    to 2017, run by the Council for Disabled Children - this is a crucial
>>    catalyst for change, helping to support families and young people to
>>    navigate the system, and creating overwhelmingly positive experiences for
>>    them
>>    - ?2.3 million for Parent Carer Forums <http://www.nnpcf.org.uk/> in
>>    2016 to 2017, who bring parents together to provide invaluable support and
>>    advice for families
>>
>> In addition, the government is also pledging to fund this work for an
>> additional year in 2017 to 2018, to ensure we see through the transition to
>> the new system by April 2018.
>> If you are interested, details of how much 'implementation funding' your
>> LA will receive can be found here:
>>
>>
>> https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/send-reform-funding-for-local-authorities-2016-to-2017
>>
>> Christopher
>>
>>
>
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From SNewton at littleport.cambs.sch.uk  Mon Feb  1 10:47:52 2016
From: SNewton at littleport.cambs.sch.uk (Newton Steve)
Date: Mon, 1 Feb 2016 10:47:52 +0000
Subject: [Senco-forum] SEND funding package - more details
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"when total school funding is reduced"


Is it?  What have I missed?


________________________________
From: Barbara Ball [barbara.ball at asend.co.uk]
Sent: 01 February 2016 10:04
To: Christopher Robertson
Cc: Newton Steve; senco-forum new list
Subject: Re: [Senco-forum] SEND funding package - more details

The real concern for all of us is that when total school funding is reduced, will pupils with special educational needs and disabilities be top priority for most Heads? Experiences suggests that they will not be. Worrying times.

Barbara Ball | Managing Director ASEND

Building 3, North London Business Park, London, N11 1GN

At my desk: 020 3668 1529
On the move: 07787 125 261
Email: barbara.ball at asend.co.uk<mailto:barbara.ball at asend.co.uk>
www.asend.co.uk<http://www.asend.co.uk/>

On 29 January 2016 at 13:35, Christopher Robertson <robertsoncml2 at gmail.com<mailto:robertsoncml2 at gmail.com>> wrote:
Hi Steve ....

For information the funding issues you are alluding to, take a look at this short TES piece:

https://www.tes.com/news/school-news/breaking-news/exclusive-schools-face-years-highly-challenging-budgets-says-senior

Christopher

On Fri, Jan 29, 2016 at 12:02 PM, Newton Steve <SNewton at littleport.cambs.sch.uk<mailto:SNewton at littleport.cambs.sch.uk>> wrote:

Unless I'm reading this wrong, it isn't additional funding to support SEN children is it?  It reads like funding for LAs for the transition from statements to EHCPs (which aren't how I anticipated them to be anyway) and more funding for some charities.


________________________________
From: Christopher Robertson [robertsoncml2 at gmail.com<mailto:robertsoncml2 at gmail.com>]
Sent: 29 January 2016 11:56
To: senco-forum new list
Subject: [Senco-forum] SEND funding package - more details


Here is an extract from the DfE press release on SEND funding priorities:


A multi-million pound package ensuring thousands of children with special educational needs and disability (SEND) have the same opportunities as any other child has been announced today (29 January 2016).

Children and Families Minister Edward Timpson said the ?80 million would help transform the life chances of children across the country and ensure every child, regardless of the challenges they face, can ?dream big? and fulfil their potential.

As part of its mission to extend opportunity to all, the government has already introduced the biggest reforms to the SEND support system in a generation by placing children and their families at the heart of the system.

Today?s announcement will increase funding for councils<https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/send-reform-funding-for-local-authorities-2016-to-2017> and support charities who work with some of the most vulnerable young people in the country. Alongside this, the government is continuing transition funding in 2017 to 2018 to help implement the reforms introduced in 2014, building on the progress so far.

Thanks to the government?s reforms, for the first time ever the needs of children with complex SEND are all set out in one education, health and care (EHC) plan<https://www.gov.uk/children-with-special-educational-needs/extra-SEN-help>. It also means that councils are legally required to take the views of families into account when deciding on what support to offer.

Children and Families Minister Edward Timpson said:

Our vision for children with special educational needs and disability is simple: that their aspirations are as high any other young person, that they dream big, achieve well at school and college, and lead fulfilling, happy lives.

We?ve made fundamental changes to the law to provide that support and the work I?ve seen so far, putting families at the heart of the process, is inspiring - but we know there is still more to do to.

I?m delighted that today we can announce that we are committing more money to councils than last year, helping to make the transition for families accessing support as smooth as possible.

The funding announced today includes:

  *   ?35.8 million in implementation funding for local authorities in 2016 to 2017<https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/send-reform-funding-for-local-authorities-2016-to-2017>, recognising the additional duties placed on them as a result of the transition to EHC plans - an increase of ?4 million on last year
  *   ?27.3 million for the Family Fund Trust<http://www.familyfund.org.uk/> in 2016 to 2017 to support low income families with disabled children - they provide small scale grants, enabling them to make specific purchases and offering short respite breaks
  *   ?15 million to fund the independent supporters programme<http://councilfordisabledchildren.org.uk/independentsupport> in 2016 to 2017, run by the Council for Disabled Children - this is a crucial catalyst for change, helping to support families and young people to navigate the system, and creating overwhelmingly positive experiences for them
  *   ?2.3 million for Parent Carer Forums<http://www.nnpcf.org.uk/> in 2016 to 2017, who bring parents together to provide invaluable support and advice for families

In addition, the government is also pledging to fund this work for an additional year in 2017 to 2018, to ensure we see through the transition to the new system by April 2018.

If you are interested, details of how much 'implementation funding' your LA will receive can be found here:

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/send-reform-funding-for-local-authorities-2016-to-2017

Christopher


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From editor at snip-newsletter.co.uk  Mon Feb  1 11:52:02 2016
From: editor at snip-newsletter.co.uk (Carol Smart)
Date: Mon, 1 Feb 2016 11:52:02 -0000
Subject: [Senco-forum] KS1 access arrangements
In-Reply-To: <1F657F9F-A00F-42F7-AA7E-6449C67265AB@me.com>
References: <1F657F9F-A00F-42F7-AA7E-6449C67265AB@me.com>
Message-ID: <000001d15ce6$f7e0bfb0$e7a23f10$@snip-newsletter.co.uk>

Info on the access arrangements for KS1 can be found in this doc ...it is
very brief
https://www.gov.uk/guidance/2016-key-stage-1-assessment-and-reporting-arrang
ements-ara

-----Original Message-----
From: Wendy Tyler [mailto:wendytyler at me.com]
Sent: 31 January 2016 22:45
To: senco-forum at lists.education.gov.uk
Subject: [Senco-forum] KS1 access arrangements

Hi,

As I work at an Infant School our KS1 results are pretty important to us!
Does anyone know if there are access arrangements for KS1 children seeing as
they now have to complete their assessments within a given time?  For
example, can I use an online screening assessment or would I need an expert
to assess a child as needing additional time? I am thinking in particular
about children with slower processing speeds.  (I have, by the way,
completed the OU Difficulties with Literacy course so could maybe declare
myself an expert).

Any advise would be much appreciated.

Thanks,
Wendy


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From kate.ruttle at btopenworld.com  Mon Feb  1 12:03:42 2016
From: kate.ruttle at btopenworld.com (KATE RUTTLE)
Date: Mon, 1 Feb 2016 12:03:42 +0000 (UTC)
Subject: [Senco-forum] KS1 access arrangements
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Hi Carol,For some reason the whole address you sent didn't hyperlink and took me to a 'Page not found'. So I googled it and ended up here (which is the same address you gave except the whole thing hyperlinks)Best wishesKate
2016 Key stage 1: assessment and reporting arrangements (ARA) - Guidance - GOV.UK

| ? |
| ? |  | ? | ? | ? | ? | ? |
| 2016 Key stage 1: assessment and reporting arrangements ...Statutory guidance for headteachers and local authority assessment co-ordinators assessing and reporting the national curriculum for 2015 to 2016. |
|  |
| View on www.gov.uk | Preview by Yahoo |
|  |
| ? |


    On Monday, 1 February 2016, 11:52, Carol Smart <editor at snip-newsletter.co.uk> wrote:


 Info on the access arrangements for KS1 can be found in this doc ...it is
very brief
https://www.gov.uk/guidance/2016-key-stage-1-assessment-and-reporting-arrang
ements-ara?

-----Original Message-----
From: Wendy Tyler [mailto:wendytyler at me.com]
Sent: 31 January 2016 22:45
To: senco-forum at lists.education.gov.uk
Subject: [Senco-forum] KS1 access arrangements

Hi,

As I work at an Infant School our KS1 results are pretty important to us!
Does anyone know if there are access arrangements for KS1 children seeing as
they now have to complete their assessments within a given time?? For
example, can I use an online screening assessment or would I need an expert
to assess a child as needing additional time? I am thinking in particular
about children with slower processing speeds.? (I have, by the way,
completed the OU Difficulties with Literacy course so could maybe declare
myself an expert).

Any advise would be much appreciated.

Thanks,
Wendy


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From editor at snip-newsletter.co.uk  Mon Feb  1 12:11:42 2016
From: editor at snip-newsletter.co.uk (Carol Smart)
Date: Mon, 1 Feb 2016 12:11:42 -0000
Subject: [Senco-forum] KS1 access arrangements
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Many thanks Kate ? the link broke in the middle ? see if this one works better!

https://www.gov.uk/guidance/2016-key-stage-1-assessment-and-reporting-arrangements-ara


From: KATE RUTTLE [mailto:kate.ruttle at btopenworld.com]
Sent: 01 February 2016 12:04
To: Carol Smart; 'Wendy Tyler'; senco-forum at lists.education.gov.uk
Subject: Re: [Senco-forum] KS1 access arrangements


Hi Carol,

For some reason the whole address you sent didn't hyperlink and took me to a 'Page not found'. So I googled it and ended up here (which is the same address you gave except the whole thing hyperlinks)

Best wishes

Kate


2016 Key stage 1: assessment and reporting arrangements (ARA) - Guidance - GOV.UK <https://www.gov.uk/guidance/2016-key-stage-1-assessment-and-reporting-arrangements-ara>


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 <https://www.gov.uk/guidance/2016-key-stage-1-assessment-and-reporting-arrangements-ara> 2016 Key stage 1: assessment and reporting arrangements ...

Statutory guidance for headteachers and local authority assessment co-ordinators assessing and reporting the national curriculum for 2015 to 2016.


 <https://www.gov.uk/guidance/2016-key-stage-1-assessment-and-reporting-arrangements-ara> View on www.gov.uk

Preview by Yahoo


On Monday, 1 February 2016, 11:52, Carol Smart <editor at snip-newsletter.co.uk> wrote:


Info on the access arrangements for KS1 can be found in this doc ...it is
very brief
https://www.gov.uk/guidance/2016-key-stage-1-assessment-and-reporting-arrang
ements-ara

-----Original Message-----
From: Wendy Tyler [mailto:wendytyler at me.com]
Sent: 31 January 2016 22:45
To: senco-forum at lists.education.gov.uk
Subject: [Senco-forum] KS1 access arrangements

Hi,

As I work at an Infant School our KS1 results are pretty important to us!
Does anyone know if there are access arrangements for KS1 children seeing as
they now have to complete their assessments within a given time?  For
example, can I use an online screening assessment or would I need an expert
to assess a child as needing additional time? I am thinking in particular
about children with slower processing speeds.  (I have, by the way,
completed the OU Difficulties with Literacy course so could maybe declare
myself an expert).

Any advise would be much appreciated.

Thanks,
Wendy


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From MHall at sgfl.org.uk  Mon Feb  1 13:37:29 2016
From: MHall at sgfl.org.uk (Ms M. Hall)
Date: Mon, 1 Feb 2016 13:37:29 +0000
Subject: [Senco-forum] SEND funding package - more details
In-Reply-To: <CADLu1_4zcC5r0TgcSkK7BHfPrbQXeEe+jJqLhRbK2dzYEJHPmA@mail.gmail.com>
References: <CAFfXBEMA2zD_4523HfEZOQ1QKWH0CsUfzRE=t+b8VPYzMwssUg@mail.gmail.com>
	<06644C2CAFB56B4FBD3366EF601BF370852E0D7C@ICTSMB01.cambsed.net>
	<CAFfXBEONhQY4keVZfWcQ8KriQJ18=LxYirZe9tuGFR27ZLQXVw@mail.gmail.com>,
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Message-ID: <AMSPR01MB2487AF3FF516530E7000C0BE4DE0@AMSPR01MB248.eurprd01.prod.exchangelabs.com>

Any suggestions on how a Senco can fight for funding in the midst of all this?


Monica Hall

 SENCO

"Do your little bit of good where you are; its those little bits of good put together that overwhelm the world." - Desmond Tutu

 Mill Hill Primary School
 Sunnyside Avenue
 Tunstall
 Stoke-on-Trent
 Staffordshire.
 ST6 6ED

 Telephone number: 01782 234466


________________________________
From: Barbara Ball <barbara.ball at asend.co.uk>
Sent: 01 February 2016 10:04
To: Christopher Robertson
Cc: Newton Steve; senco-forum new list
Subject: Re: [Senco-forum] SEND funding package - more details

The real concern for all of us is that when total school funding is reduced, will pupils with special educational needs and disabilities be top priority for most Heads? Experiences suggests that they will not be. Worrying times.

Barbara Ball | Managing Director ASEND

Building 3, North London Business Park, London, N11 1GN

At my desk: 020 3668 1529
On the move: 07787 125 261
Email: barbara.ball at asend.co.uk<mailto:barbara.ball at asend.co.uk>
www.asend.co.uk<http://www.asend.co.uk/>

On 29 January 2016 at 13:35, Christopher Robertson <robertsoncml2 at gmail.com<mailto:robertsoncml2 at gmail.com>> wrote:
Hi Steve ....

For information the funding issues you are alluding to, take a look at this short TES piece:

https://www.tes.com/news/school-news/breaking-news/exclusive-schools-face-years-highly-challenging-budgets-says-senior

Christopher

On Fri, Jan 29, 2016 at 12:02 PM, Newton Steve <SNewton at littleport.cambs.sch.uk<mailto:SNewton at littleport.cambs.sch.uk>> wrote:

Unless I'm reading this wrong, it isn't additional funding to support SEN children is it?  It reads like funding for LAs for the transition from statements to EHCPs (which aren't how I anticipated them to be anyway) and more funding for some charities.


________________________________
From: Christopher Robertson [robertsoncml2 at gmail.com<mailto:robertsoncml2 at gmail.com>]
Sent: 29 January 2016 11:56
To: senco-forum new list
Subject: [Senco-forum] SEND funding package - more details


Here is an extract from the DfE press release on SEND funding priorities:


A multi-million pound package ensuring thousands of children with special educational needs and disability (SEND) have the same opportunities as any other child has been announced today (29 January 2016).

Children and Families Minister Edward Timpson said the ?80 million would help transform the life chances of children across the country and ensure every child, regardless of the challenges they face, can ?dream big? and fulfil their potential.

As part of its mission to extend opportunity to all, the government has already introduced the biggest reforms to the SEND support system in a generation by placing children and their families at the heart of the system.

Today?s announcement will increase funding for councils<https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/send-reform-funding-for-local-authorities-2016-to-2017> and support charities who work with some of the most vulnerable young people in the country. Alongside this, the government is continuing transition funding in 2017 to 2018 to help implement the reforms introduced in 2014, building on the progress so far.

Thanks to the government?s reforms, for the first time ever the needs of children with complex SEND are all set out in one education, health and care (EHC) plan<https://www.gov.uk/children-with-special-educational-needs/extra-SEN-help>. It also means that councils are legally required to take the views of families into account when deciding on what support to offer.

Children and Families Minister Edward Timpson said:

Our vision for children with special educational needs and disability is simple: that their aspirations are as high any other young person, that they dream big, achieve well at school and college, and lead fulfilling, happy lives.

We?ve made fundamental changes to the law to provide that support and the work I?ve seen so far, putting families at the heart of the process, is inspiring - but we know there is still more to do to.

I?m delighted that today we can announce that we are committing more money to councils than last year, helping to make the transition for families accessing support as smooth as possible.

The funding announced today includes:

  *   ?35.8 million in implementation funding for local authorities in 2016 to 2017<https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/send-reform-funding-for-local-authorities-2016-to-2017>, recognising the additional duties placed on them as a result of the transition to EHC plans - an increase of ?4 million on last year
  *   ?27.3 million for the Family Fund Trust<http://www.familyfund.org.uk/> in 2016 to 2017 to support low income families with disabled children - they provide small scale grants, enabling them to make specific purchases and offering short respite breaks
  *   ?15 million to fund the independent supporters programme<http://councilfordisabledchildren.org.uk/independentsupport> in 2016 to 2017, run by the Council for Disabled Children - this is a crucial catalyst for change, helping to support families and young people to navigate the system, and creating overwhelmingly positive experiences for them
  *   ?2.3 million for Parent Carer Forums<http://www.nnpcf.org.uk/> in 2016 to 2017, who bring parents together to provide invaluable support and advice for families

In addition, the government is also pledging to fund this work for an additional year in 2017 to 2018, to ensure we see through the transition to the new system by April 2018.

If you are interested, details of how much 'implementation funding' your LA will receive can be found here:

https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/send-reform-funding-for-local-authorities-2016-to-2017

Christopher


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From robertsoncml2 at gmail.com  Mon Feb  1 16:29:17 2016
From: robertsoncml2 at gmail.com (Christopher Robertson)
Date: Mon, 1 Feb 2016 16:29:17 +0000
Subject: [Senco-forum] 16-19 Additional Needs Funding
Message-ID: <CAFfXBEMLEMsXW9hxzgq_L0U36Z58s2Gcj12bP-79=8LNo2pZoA@mail.gmail.com>

A new DfE report - Research to Understand Spend by 16-19 Institutions on
Additional Needs - may be of interest to learning support coordinators /
SENCos working in the sector. Here is a link to the report:

https://www.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/484544/DFE-RR492_16_to_19_funding_for_students_with_additional_needs.pdf

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From senco at stjohnxxiii.lbhf.sch.uk  Mon Feb  1 19:48:58 2016
From: senco at stjohnxxiii.lbhf.sch.uk (Mary Gilmartin)
Date: Mon, 1 Feb 2016 19:48:58 +0000
Subject: [Senco-forum] Provision Mapping software
Message-ID: <325caf39d0ab447e98dec0fe88c092fc@E13ORP19.lgflmail.org>

Hi there,

Does anyone have any thoughts on any of the following:

GoAlice : http://www.goalice.co.uk/

www.provisionmap.co.uk<http://www.provisionmap.co.uk>

Provision map writer   https://www.bluehills.co.uk/products/pmw.htm


Regards,


Mary
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From beckylewis78 at hotmail.co.uk  Mon Feb  1 22:01:11 2016
From: beckylewis78 at hotmail.co.uk (Becky Lewis)
Date: Mon, 1 Feb 2016 22:01:11 +0000
Subject: [Senco-forum] Appointing a Speech and Language Therapist
Message-ID: <DUB402-EAS411BF01C2905AFACC7EB4438FDE0@phx.gbl>

Dear all,

Would anyone be able to share their experience of appointing a speech and language therapist to work in school? Did it work for the member of staff? Did they manage to demonstrate the standards needed to remain a member of the Royal College?

Many, many thanks
Becky

From editor at snip-newsletter.co.uk  Tue Feb  2 09:06:21 2016
From: editor at snip-newsletter.co.uk (Carol Smart)
Date: Tue, 2 Feb 2016 09:06:21 -0000
Subject: [Senco-forum] Appointing a Speech and Language Therapist
In-Reply-To: <DUB402-EAS411BF01C2905AFACC7EB4438FDE0@phx.gbl>
References: <DUB402-EAS411BF01C2905AFACC7EB4438FDE0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <002e01d15d98$fcc276b0$f6476410$@snip-newsletter.co.uk>

A special school I worked with did appoint a SpLT but although she was
employed fulltime, in reality she actually worked 4 days in the school and I
day at the NHS clinic each week to allow her to complete the supervision etc
to retain her registration.  Carol

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From: Becky Lewis [mailto:beckylewis78 at hotmail.co.uk]
Sent: 01 February 2016 22:01
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Subject: [Senco-forum] Appointing a Speech and Language Therapist

Dear all,

Would anyone be able to share their experience of appointing a speech and
language therapist to work in school? Did it work for the member of staff?
Did they manage to demonstrate the standards needed to remain a member of
the Royal College?

Many, many thanks
Becky
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From robertsoncml2 at gmail.com  Tue Feb  2 09:50:00 2016
From: robertsoncml2 at gmail.com (Christopher Robertson)
Date: Tue, 2 Feb 2016 09:50:00 +0000
Subject: [Senco-forum] Appointing a Speech and Language Therapist
In-Reply-To: <DUB402-EAS411BF01C2905AFACC7EB4438FDE0@phx.gbl>
References: <DUB402-EAS411BF01C2905AFACC7EB4438FDE0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <CAFfXBEPsuosL8jxL8gO=Wt9-rtu3gSJuxt_qdwWJBx9_PcLQ=A@mail.gmail.com>

A good question Becky. It would be helpful if you share any collated
responses with members.

In addition to an individual school appointing an SLT (more common in the
special school sector, but not unknown in mainstream primary and secondary
schools), interesting models are emerging where school cluster groups
employ an SLT.

Some SLTs decided the writing was on the wall a few years ago, when NHS
service cuts were particularly deep, and moved into private practice
(maintaining appropriate registration) and setting up contract directly
with schools.

One concern I have come across recently is that NHS providers of SLT have
decided to withdraw provision  because it is being made by 'others' - an
interesting, if unintended consequences of policy. Of course, the legality
of such behaviour is questionable to say the least, and a matter to be
raised with the relevant Clinical Commission Group (CCG) in an area.

I do wonder if there is a case for re-professionalising SLT with a view to
training for the education sector. Any thoughts?

There is an obvious parallel with EPs (education) and clinical
psychologists (health). It might also be possible to 'do away' with
confusing legislation (Is SLT provision a health or educational need, or
both? It may seem clear to some folk, but in practice we simply muddle
along)

Christopher


On Monday, February 1, 2016, Becky Lewis <beckylewis78 at hotmail.co.uk> wrote:

> Dear all,
>
> Would anyone be able to share their experience of appointing a speech and
> language therapist to work in school? Did it work for the member of staff?
> Did they manage to demonstrate the standards needed to remain a member of
> the Royal College?
>
> Many, many thanks
> Becky
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From gdmorewood at supanet.com  Tue Feb  2 09:57:41 2016
From: gdmorewood at supanet.com (gdmorewood)
Date: Tue, 02 Feb 2016 09:57:41 +0000
Subject: [Senco-forum] Appointing a Speech and Language Therapist
In-Reply-To: <CAFfXBEPsuosL8jxL8gO=Wt9-rtu3gSJuxt_qdwWJBx9_PcLQ=A@mail.gmail.com>
References: <DUB402-EAS411BF01C2905AFACC7EB4438FDE0@phx.gbl>
	<CAFfXBEPsuosL8jxL8gO=Wt9-rtu3gSJuxt_qdwWJBx9_PcLQ=A@mail.gmail.com>
Message-ID: <b4ac20c39ef32edd65e0f00d1fc62979@supanet.com>

Hi, apologies in haste - but these should help:

http://www.gdmorewood.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/MOREWOOD-G.-D.-DREWS-D.-2015.pdf

http://blog.optimus-education.com/school-led-send-provision-speech-and-language-therapy

More to follow when get second - we have 2 SALTs - know all the 'ins
and outs' - all best, Gareth


On 2016-02-02 09:50, Christopher Robertson wrote:
> A good question Becky. It would be helpful if you share any collated
> responses with members.
>
> In addition to an individual school appointing an SLT (more common in
> the special school sector, but not unknown in mainstream primary and
> secondary schools), interesting models are emerging where school
> cluster groups employ an SLT.?
>
> Some SLTs decided the writing was on the wall a few years ago, when
> NHS service cuts were particularly deep, and moved into private
> practice (maintaining appropriate registration) and setting up
> contract directly with schools.
>
> One concern I have come across recently is that NHS providers of SLT
> have decided to withdraw provision ?because it is being made by
> 'others' - an interesting, if unintended consequences of policy. Of
> course, the legality of such behaviour is questionable to say the
> least, and a matter to be raised with the relevant Clinical
> Commission
> Group (CCG) in an area.
>
> I do wonder if there is a case for re-professionalising SLT with a
> view to training for the education sector. Any thoughts??
>
> There is an obvious parallel with EPs (education) and clinical
> psychologists (health). It might also?be possible to 'do away' with
> confusing legislation (Is SLT provision a health or educational need,
> or both? It may seem clear to some?folk, but in practice we simply
> muddle along)
>
> Christopher
>
> On Monday, February 1, 2016, Becky Lewis <beckylewis78 at hotmail.co.uk
> [3]> wrote:
>
>> Dear all,
>>
>> Would anyone be able to share their experience of appointing a
>> speech and language therapist to work in school? Did it work for the
>> member of staff? Did they manage to demonstrate the standards needed
>> to remain a member of the Royal College?
>>
>> Many, many thanks
>> Becky
>> _______________________________________________
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>> Senco-forum at lists.education.gov.uk
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>> SETTINGS. VISIT
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>
>
> Links:
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From suzanneosborne1 at hotmail.co.uk  Tue Feb  2 11:06:10 2016
From: suzanneosborne1 at hotmail.co.uk (SUZANNE OSBORNE)
Date: Tue, 2 Feb 2016 11:06:10 +0000
Subject: [Senco-forum] tracking disadvantaged pupiles
Message-ID: <DUB123-W30900FFE608DAFAD4FBD96B3DF0@phx.gbl>

Dear All,
I have just had disadvantaged (pupil premium, LAC etc) children added to my remit and I was wondering if anyone has a simple way that they track any extra intervention, enrichment, extra information for these children. I was thinking something on one sheet each that would just show an inspector/governor at a glance.All help gratefully received.ThanksSuzanne
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From: suzanneosborne1 at hotmail.co.uk (SUZANNE OSBORNE)
Date: Tue, 2 Feb 2016 11:06:48 +0000
Subject: [Senco-forum] Tracking disadvantaged pupils
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References: <DUB123-W30900FFE608DAFAD4FBD96B3DF0@phx.gbl>
Message-ID: <DUB123-W21C213F914EDA1F7D7EAA7B3DF0@phx.gbl>


Dear All,
I have just had disadvantaged (pupil premium, LAC etc) children added to my remit and I was wondering if anyone has a simple way that they track any extra intervention, enrichment, extra information for these children. I was thinking something on one sheet each that would just show an inspector/governor at a glance.All help gratefully received.ThanksSuzanne
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From janrolnick at aol.com  Tue Feb  2 11:40:22 2016
From: janrolnick at aol.com (Janice)
Date: Tue, 2 Feb 2016 11:40:22 +0000
Subject: [Senco-forum] Memory
Message-ID: <A66E044C-63A5-47A5-A71E-A7E36673D456@aol.com>

What do people use to assess working memory in Ks1 - 2. Would you agree that working memory is a combination of both phonological memory ( dealing with spoken and written material) combined with Visuo -spatial memory ( memory for visual images).

Is the phonological memory in the Ctopp combined with the visual assessment in the WRAML sufficient evidence to show poor working memory?

Many thanks

Janice Rolnick


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From FieldM at cranbrook.kent.sch.uk  Tue Feb  2 12:03:49 2016
From: FieldM at cranbrook.kent.sch.uk (Marije Field)
Date: Tue, 2 Feb 2016 12:03:49 +0000
Subject: [Senco-forum] Senco-forum Digest, Vol 60,
	Issue 1 SEND Funding Package
Message-ID: <feb0c173fbf7460cb6ac4c9b6ed889da@Exch2k13.cranbrook.kent.sch.uk>

Very worrying indeed! Any money which had been coming our way has now been withdrawn, you now have to prove you've spent ?6000 on a pupil, before you can apply for any extra funding. This whole process is so ridiculously burdensome that it's not even attempted.

I don't know what is happening in Education... teachers are now being laid off, therefore others are overburdened and of course the pupils with special needs are at the end of the line. !
Marije


Marije Field
SENCO, MA Linguistics, Cert Ed. , Dipl. SpLD, AMBDA
Cranbrook School
01580 711800

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From K.Foster at haselworth.hants.sch.uk  Tue Feb  2 14:38:09 2016
From: K.Foster at haselworth.hants.sch.uk (K Foster)
Date: Tue, 2 Feb 2016 14:38:09 +0000
Subject: [Senco-forum] Tracking disadvantaged pupils
In-Reply-To: <DUB123-W21C213F914EDA1F7D7EAA7B3DF0@phx.gbl>
References: <DUB123-W30900FFE608DAFAD4FBD96B3DF0@phx.gbl>,
	<DUB123-W21C213F914EDA1F7D7EAA7B3DF0@phx.gbl>
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I would be interested in this too

Kim Foster


Inclusions Leader


________________________________
From: SUZANNE OSBORNE <suzanneosborne1 at hotmail.co.uk>
Sent: 02 February 2016 11:06
To: senco-forum at lists.education.gov.uk
Subject: [Senco-forum] Tracking disadvantaged pupils


Dear All,

I have just had disadvantaged (pupil premium, LAC etc) children added to my remit and I was wondering if anyone has a simple way that they track any extra intervention, enrichment, extra information for these children. I was thinking something on one sheet each that would just show an inspector/governor at a glance.
All help gratefully received.
Thanks
Suzanne
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From K.Foster at haselworth.hants.sch.uk  Tue Feb  2 14:39:16 2016
From: K.Foster at haselworth.hants.sch.uk (K Foster)
Date: Tue, 2 Feb 2016 14:39:16 +0000
Subject: [Senco-forum] clciker 6/ lqanguage link - experiences please
Message-ID: <DB4PR04MB2677CA5102468133AFF28D98BDF0@DB4PR04MB267.eurprd04.prod.outlook.com>

Does anyone have any experiences of using clicker apps? we are thinking about getting it for our ipads for sen use in school


and also - language link ?

thanks


Kim Foster


Inclusions Leader


Haselworth Primary School

Stone Lane

Gosport

PO12 1SQ


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From robertsoncml2 at gmail.com  Tue Feb  2 16:51:03 2016
From: robertsoncml2 at gmail.com (Christopher Robertson)
Date: Tue, 2 Feb 2016 16:51:03 +0000
Subject: [Senco-forum] Appointing a Speech and Language Therapist
In-Reply-To: <b4ac20c39ef32edd65e0f00d1fc62979@supanet.com>
References: <DUB402-EAS411BF01C2905AFACC7EB4438FDE0@phx.gbl>
	<CAFfXBEPsuosL8jxL8gO=Wt9-rtu3gSJuxt_qdwWJBx9_PcLQ=A@mail.gmail.com>
	<b4ac20c39ef32edd65e0f00d1fc62979@supanet.com>
Message-ID: <CAFfXBENuzgV3B=VNTQ2y3w2GnQ0FzUvBJUecpO-07vOHjeo-kA@mail.gmail.com>

Hi Gareth and Becky,

It would be interesting to hear the comments of your  therapists on the
issues of meeting registration requirements.

Christopher

On Tuesday, February 2, 2016, gdmorewood <gdmorewood at supanet.com> wrote:

> Hi, apologies in haste - but these should help:
>
>
> http://www.gdmorewood.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/MOREWOOD-G.-D.-DREWS-D.-2015.pdf
>
>
> http://blog.optimus-education.com/school-led-send-provision-speech-and-language-therapy
>
> More to follow when get second - we have 2 SALTs - know all the 'ins
> and outs' - all best, Gareth
>
>
> On 2016-02-02 09:50, Christopher Robertson wrote:
> > A good question Becky. It would be helpful if you share any collated
> > responses with members.
> >
> > In addition to an individual school appointing an SLT (more common in
> > the special school sector, but not unknown in mainstream primary and
> > secondary schools), interesting models are emerging where school
> > cluster groups employ an SLT.
> >
> > Some SLTs decided the writing was on the wall a few years ago, when
> > NHS service cuts were particularly deep, and moved into private
> > practice (maintaining appropriate registration) and setting up
> > contract directly with schools.
> >
> > One concern I have come across recently is that NHS providers of SLT
> > have decided to withdraw provision  because it is being made by
> > 'others' - an interesting, if unintended consequences of policy. Of
> > course, the legality of such behaviour is questionable to say the
> > least, and a matter to be raised with the relevant Clinical
> > Commission
> > Group (CCG) in an area.
> >
> > I do wonder if there is a case for re-professionalising SLT with a
> > view to training for the education sector. Any thoughts?
> >
> > There is an obvious parallel with EPs (education) and clinical
> > psychologists (health). It might also be possible to 'do away' with
> > confusing legislation (Is SLT provision a health or educational need,
> > or both? It may seem clear to some folk, but in practice we simply
> > muddle along)
> >
> > Christopher
> >
> > On Monday, February 1, 2016, Becky Lewis <beckylewis78 at hotmail.co.uk
> <javascript:;>
> > [3]> wrote:
> >
> >> Dear all,
> >>
> >> Would anyone be able to share their experience of appointing a
> >> speech and language therapist to work in school? Did it work for the
> >> member of staff? Did they manage to demonstrate the standards needed
> >> to remain a member of the Royal College?
> >>
> >> Many, many thanks
> >> Becky
> >> _______________________________________________
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From: janrolnick at aol.com (Janice)
Date: Tue, 2 Feb 2016 17:46:34 +0000
Subject: [Senco-forum] Memory
Message-ID: <B43958D6-0B04-4A92-84B6-D7FE21B4F103@aol.com>

What do people use to assess working memory in Ks1 - 2. Would you agree that working memory is a combination of both phonological memory ( dealing with spoken and written material) combined with Visuo -spatial memory ( memory for visual images).

Is the phonological memory in the Ctopp combined with the visual assessment in the WRAML sufficient evidence to show poor working memory?

Many thanks

Janice Rolnick


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From w.dewberry at chingford.waltham.sch.uk  Wed Feb  3 09:04:34 2016
From: w.dewberry at chingford.waltham.sch.uk (William Dewberry)
Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2016 09:04:34 +0000
Subject: [Senco-forum] Appointing a Speech and Language Therapist
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WE have our own full time and yes it's built into their JD as is professional training
More info?

Bill Dewberry; M.A., M.A., B.A., CERT.Ed.,Ad.Dip.(SEN), Ad.Dip.(EAL),
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Sent: 02 February 2016 09:06
To: 'Becky Lewis'; 'Senco Forum'
Subject: Re: [Senco-forum] Appointing a Speech and Language Therapist

A special school I worked with did appoint a SpLT but although she was employed fulltime, in reality she actually worked 4 days in the school and I day at the NHS clinic each week to allow her to complete the supervision etc to retain her registration.  Carol

-----Original Message-----
From: Becky Lewis [mailto:beckylewis78 at hotmail.co.uk]
Sent: 01 February 2016 22:01
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Subject: [Senco-forum] Appointing a Speech and Language Therapist

Dear all,

Would anyone be able to share their experience of appointing a speech and language therapist to work in school? Did it work for the member of staff?
Did they manage to demonstrate the standards needed to remain a member of the Royal College?

Many, many thanks
Becky
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From: Mariama.Jalloh at acamh.org (Mariama Jalloh)
Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2016 10:12:55 +0000
Subject: [Senco-forum] =?windows-1252?q?Interactive_ASD_masterclass_is_com?=
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If you or a colleague would like to be able to confidently assess and treat mental health problems associated with ASD, then join ACAMH?s special masterclass, coming to Glasgow next month.

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This is an interactive one-day masterclass covering the following key areas:


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From Karyn.Ambridge at acamh.org  Wed Feb  3 11:49:23 2016
From: Karyn.Ambridge at acamh.org (Karyn Ambridge)
Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2016 11:49:23 +0000
Subject: [Senco-forum] =?windows-1252?q?Evening_lecture=3A_Norman_Lamb_MP_?=
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Evening lecture: Norman Lamb MP on the ?Future in Mind? initiative
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We?re hosting an evening lecture with MP Norman Lamb - Minister for State Care and Support until May 2015 ? where he?ll  give an update on 2015?s Future in Mind report.

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From w.dewberry at chingford.waltham.sch.uk  Wed Feb  3 12:03:05 2016
From: w.dewberry at chingford.waltham.sch.uk (William Dewberry)
Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2016 12:03:05 +0000
Subject: [Senco-forum] Appointing a Speech and Language Therapist
In-Reply-To: <CAFfXBEPsuosL8jxL8gO=Wt9-rtu3gSJuxt_qdwWJBx9_PcLQ=A@mail.gmail.com>
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One of the main reasons not to look to NHS is cost and job description. Ours has been with us for three years and it wholly employed by the school.
The CPD and mentoring needs to be integral and that costs.  But is a good investment.
Bill

From: Christopher Robertson [mailto:robertsoncml2 at gmail.com]
Sent: 02 February 2016 09:50
To: Becky Lewis
Cc: Senco Forum
Subject: Re: [Senco-forum] Appointing a Speech and Language Therapist

A good question Becky. It would be helpful if you share any collated responses with members.

In addition to an individual school appointing an SLT (more common in the special school sector, but not unknown in mainstream primary and secondary schools), interesting models are emerging where school cluster groups employ an SLT.

Some SLTs decided the writing was on the wall a few years ago, when NHS service cuts were particularly deep, and moved into private practice (maintaining appropriate registration) and setting up contract directly with schools.

One concern I have come across recently is that NHS providers of SLT have decided to withdraw provision  because it is being made by 'others' - an interesting, if unintended consequences of policy. Of course, the legality of such behaviour is questionable to say the least, and a matter to be raised with the relevant Clinical Commission Group (CCG) in an area.

I do wonder if there is a case for re-professionalising SLT with a view to training for the education sector. Any thoughts?

There is an obvious parallel with EPs (education) and clinical psychologists (health). It might also be possible to 'do away' with confusing legislation (Is SLT provision a health or educational need, or both? It may seem clear to some folk, but in practice we simply muddle along)

Christopher


On Monday, February 1, 2016, Becky Lewis <beckylewis78 at hotmail.co.uk<mailto:beckylewis78 at hotmail.co.uk>> wrote:
Dear all,

Would anyone be able to share their experience of appointing a speech and language therapist to work in school? Did it work for the member of staff? Did they manage to demonstrate the standards needed to remain a member of the Royal College?

Many, many thanks
Becky
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From KDoorbar at robinswood.gloucs.sch.uk  Wed Feb  3 12:44:53 2016
From: KDoorbar at robinswood.gloucs.sch.uk (Kirsty Doorbar)
Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2016 12:44:53 +0000
Subject: [Senco-forum] clciker 6/ lqanguage link - experiences please
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oooh me too! I'll keep a close eye on this.


I've used them in special schools with kids on the autistic spectrum and it helped no end, now I'm looking at using it to help support in mainstream for a year 2 pupil with PD and processing difficulties. who would be your focus for the use of Clicker? just to be nosey! [&#X1f609]


Kirsty


Mrs Kirsty Doorbar


Inclusion Manager

Robinswood Primary Academy

Matson

Gloucestershire

GL5 6HE


tel: 01452 530430

fax: 01452 530431


________________________________
From: K Foster <K.Foster at haselworth.hants.sch.uk>
Sent: 02 February 2016 14:39
To: senco-forum at lists.education.gov.uk
Subject: [Senco-forum] clciker 6/ lqanguage link - experiences please


Does anyone have any experiences of using clicker apps? we are thinking about getting it for our ipads for sen use in school


and also - language link ?

thanks


Kim Foster


Inclusions Leader


Haselworth Primary School

Stone Lane

Gosport

PO12 1SQ


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From KDoorbar at robinswood.gloucs.sch.uk  Wed Feb  3 12:47:44 2016
From: KDoorbar at robinswood.gloucs.sch.uk (Kirsty Doorbar)
Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2016 12:47:44 +0000
Subject: [Senco-forum] Appointing a Speech and Language Therapist
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I worked previously in a Special School that employed a SALT full time, she was on NHS contract but the school paid the wages. We also used the same model for OTs too and it helped no end!


Kirsty


Mrs Kirsty Doorbar


Inclusion Manager

Robinswood Primary Academy

Matson

Gloucestershire

GL5 6HE


tel: 01452 530430

fax: 01452 530431


________________________________
From: Christopher Robertson <robertsoncml2 at gmail.com>
Sent: 02 February 2016 16:51
To: gdmorewood
Cc: senco-forum at lists.education.gov.uk
Subject: Re: [Senco-forum] Appointing a Speech and Language Therapist

Hi Gareth and Becky,

It would be interesting to hear the comments of your  therapists on the issues of meeting registration requirements.

Christopher

On Tuesday, February 2, 2016, gdmorewood <gdmorewood at supanet.com<mailto:gdmorewood at supanet.com>> wrote:
Hi, apologies in haste - but these should help:

http://www.gdmorewood.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/MOREWOOD-G.-D.-DREWS-D.-2015.pdf

http://blog.optimus-education.com/school-led-send-provision-speech-and-language-therapy

More to follow when get second - we have 2 SALTs - know all the 'ins
and outs' - all best, Gareth


On 2016-02-02 09:50, Christopher Robertson wrote:
> A good question Becky. It would be helpful if you share any collated
> responses with members.
>
> In addition to an individual school appointing an SLT (more common in
> the special school sector, but not unknown in mainstream primary and
> secondary schools), interesting models are emerging where school
> cluster groups employ an SLT.
>
> Some SLTs decided the writing was on the wall a few years ago, when
> NHS service cuts were particularly deep, and moved into private
> practice (maintaining appropriate registration) and setting up
> contract directly with schools.
>
> One concern I have come across recently is that NHS providers of SLT
> have decided to withdraw provision  because it is being made by
> 'others' - an interesting, if unintended consequences of policy. Of
> course, the legality of such behaviour is questionable to say the
> least, and a matter to be raised with the relevant Clinical
> Commission
> Group (CCG) in an area.
>
> I do wonder if there is a case for re-professionalising SLT with a
> view to training for the education sector. Any thoughts?
>
> There is an obvious parallel with EPs (education) and clinical
> psychologists (health). It might also be possible to 'do away' with
> confusing legislation (Is SLT provision a health or educational need,
> or both? It may seem clear to some folk, but in practice we simply
> muddle along)
>
> Christopher
>
> On Monday, February 1, 2016, Becky Lewis <beckylewis78 at hotmail.co.uk
> [3]> wrote:
>
>> Dear all,
>>
>> Would anyone be able to share their experience of appointing a
>> speech and language therapist to work in school? Did it work for the
>> member of staff? Did they manage to demonstrate the standards needed
>> to remain a member of the Royal College?
>>
>> Many, many thanks
>> Becky
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From: Mariama.Jalloh at acamh.org (Mariama Jalloh)
Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2016 13:47:34 +0000
Subject: [Senco-forum] =?windows-1252?q?Interactive_masterclass_intellectu?=
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Attend our brand new masterclass for a high-level update on the relevant research findings and clinical evidence base in relation to children and adolescents with intellectual disabilities and complex mental health and behavioural problems including sexual offending.

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From robertsoncml2 at gmail.com  Wed Feb  3 15:06:43 2016
From: robertsoncml2 at gmail.com (Christopher Robertson)
Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2016 15:06:43 +0000
Subject: [Senco-forum] Independent Support Programme
Message-ID: <CAFfXBEPYv-=q4iFc17N4Y0d30Ym--Ro-_o46svVEw4M50yA0EQ@mail.gmail.com>

As noted in a posting last week, the DfE is continuing to fund the
Independent Supporters Programme through 2016 to 2017. The budget for this
Council for Disabled Children facilitated scheme is ?15 million.

The SEND Code of Practice (2.20) provides the following remit for programme:

Families may receive help from and independent supporter, provided by
private voluntary and community sector organisations, who is independent of
the local authority. Independent supporters will be recruited locally and
receive accredited training, inclusing legal training, to help any family
going through an EHC needs assessment and the process of developing an EHC
plan.Local authorities should work with organisations that are providing
independent supporters to ensure there are arrangements agreed locally to
offer help form an independent supporter to as many families as possible
who require it.

Does anyone have experience of working with independent supporters?


The programme is being evaluated by the National Development Team for
Inclusion. Their interim summary report can found here:


http://www.ndti.org.uk/major-projects/current/national-evaluation-of-the-independent-support-programme/

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From samantha.davies at tiscali.co.uk  Wed Feb  3 18:45:20 2016
From: samantha.davies at tiscali.co.uk (Samantha Davies)
Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2016 18:45:20 -0000
Subject: [Senco-forum] application for EHCP
Message-ID: <001101d15eb3$0969ca60$1c3d5f20$@tiscali.co.uk>

Dear all,


I have had a letter from a parent of a child in Year 10 who has had a
meeting with an independent supporter. The support worker has recommended
that I write a letter to help them apply for an EHCP. The child has
hypermobility and Irlen's.

I feel uncertain about this as I thought that the school would need to make
an application and use supporting evidence from external agencies. What
information would be needed from school?

The school has made reasonable adjustments for access arrangements and have
recent standardised scores.


Thanks in advance


Sam


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From mary.kelly4 at ntlworld.com  Wed Feb  3 19:10:56 2016
From: mary.kelly4 at ntlworld.com (Mary Kelly)
Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2016 19:10:56 +0000
Subject: [Senco-forum] Tribunal Advice please
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Dear All,

I?m to be called as a witness for a Tribunal hearing. The child is a Year6 boy with dyspraxia, hypermobility and numeracy difficulties. There really isn?t any dispute about his needs, nor about whether we are meeting them at his (independent) primary school. Parents want an EHC plan to ensure that his needs are fully met when he goes on to (state) secondary school. The LA are saying that his needs will be met by the School, whereas the School is saying things like ?best endeavours?, and ?where possible?. Parents feel that their child was sinking once before in his previous primary school and they are very much afraid that, without the EHC Plan, this will happen again.

Does anyone have any advice at all to offer in this situation, either about tactics or the likelihood of success or the tribunal process itself?

Parents are trying to make contact with IPSEA, and the LA has employed lawyers.

Many thanks,

Mary


From rmnewbury at virginmedia.com  Wed Feb  3 20:13:25 2016
From: rmnewbury at virginmedia.com (Ruth Newbury)
Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2016 20:13:25 -0000
Subject: [Senco-forum] Tribunal Advice please
In-Reply-To: <7481CB8A-38EF-452E-8128-E40CA9644D24@ntlworld.com>
References: <7481CB8A-38EF-452E-8128-E40CA9644D24@ntlworld.com>
Message-ID: <002601d15ebf$56b8a140$0429e3c0$@virginmedia.com>

A friend of mine has just "won" a permanent placement for her son at a very expensive permanent boarding school for a child who has been treated by Great Ormond Street for the last ten years.

It has actually cost the family a great deal of money to provide independent assessments for almost every aspect of his life going to appeal.

However, the judge ruled at the tribunal that cost should never be a factor when deciding what is the right provision for a child.  There is a sentence in this child's statement that refers to this (and I suspect is in every child's statement in this authority) which is now apparently illegal with the new legislation.

One of the local authorities defences was that funding what was considered to be needed by all the independent practitioners consulted was that this was an inappropriate use of public funding and was extravagant provision.

I think that our children need to be protected from this approach and I would be advising any person with a child with very real problems that need specific interventions to start now collecting evidence of their needs - from everywhere.

A school already trying to justify their approach by using the terms "?best endeavours?, and ?where possible?" is more or less saying - this will not happen because we can't afford it.  That argument at this tribunal was not permitted because it is putting money before the demonstrated needs of the child.

I would be telling them not to accept this - and to be collecting evidence from all areas of their child's life - and I would want it documented about what exactly was the provision already made in the past - how it worked - and what was planned for the future.

I wonder just how well the new legislation is really understood by all involved in its implementation.

And when things do not go well go straight for independent advice from a solicitor specialising in educational matters.

Regards

Ruth

It has cost this family something like ?30,000 to go to appeal - and they used the best.  What was really dreadful was having to find independent medical advice for the authority who refused to accept Great Ormond Streets reports without them being verified by an independent person!  And think in terms of around ?1000 per report too - get the best!

And as always - it comes down to money!

Special Needs Tribunals now have a new Head.  A Judge who used to be the head of IPSEA.  She has a profoundly handicapped child.  Would that more people involved in SEN provision knew exactly what it was like to have a child with special needs!

-----Original Message-----
From: Mary Kelly [mailto:mary.kelly4 at ntlworld.com]
Sent: 03 February 2016 19:11
To: Senco Forum <Senco-forum at lists.education.gov.uk>
Subject: [Senco-forum] Tribunal Advice please

Dear All,

I?m to be called as a witness for a Tribunal hearing. The child is a Year6 boy with dyspraxia, hypermobility and numeracy difficulties. There really isn?t any dispute about his needs, nor about whether we are meeting them at his (independent) primary school. Parents want an EHC plan to ensure that his needs are fully met when he goes on to (state) secondary school. The LA are saying that his needs will be met by the School, whereas the School is saying things like ?best endeavours?, and ?where possible?. Parents feel that their child was sinking once before in his previous primary school and they are very much afraid that, without the EHC Plan, this will happen again.

Does anyone have any advice at all to offer in this situation, either about tactics or the likelihood of success or the tribunal process itself?

Parents are trying to make contact with IPSEA, and the LA has employed lawyers.

Many thanks,

Mary


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From rmnewbury at virginmedia.com  Wed Feb  3 20:28:41 2016
From: rmnewbury at virginmedia.com (Ruth Newbury)
Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2016 20:28:41 -0000
Subject: [Senco-forum] Tribunal Advice please
In-Reply-To: <7481CB8A-38EF-452E-8128-E40CA9644D24@ntlworld.com>
References: <7481CB8A-38EF-452E-8128-E40CA9644D24@ntlworld.com>
Message-ID: <002b01d15ec1$78aa49a0$69fedce0$@virginmedia.com>

We went to a tribunal with my grandson - about 10 years ago.

He had very ordinary "dyslexic" problems.  He is a clever boy but can't prove it on paper without additional help of some kind - reader scribe extra time etc.

We represented ourselves - no outsiders apart from an outside EP report which the school choose to ignore and said we thought our "goose was a swan"!

County had a barrister - called the school's senco and advisory staff.

Unfortunately for them they did not know their stuff.

We won - but school were given time to prove that they could actually do the right things if they wanted to - or we should go back if we were unhappy aboput provision or progress.

We did not go back.  The upper school were great.

It pays to fight.

Regards

Ruth - tribunals ask really pertinent question and want proper answers.  We took my grandson.  He had half an hour alone with the three members of the tribunal with his mother away in the background.  He was well able to talk through his problems at the age of 9/10  He was his own best witness.


-----Original Message-----
From: Mary Kelly [mailto:mary.kelly4 at ntlworld.com]
Sent: 03 February 2016 19:11
To: Senco Forum <Senco-forum at lists.education.gov.uk>
Subject: [Senco-forum] Tribunal Advice please

Dear All,

I?m to be called as a witness for a Tribunal hearing. The child is a Year6 boy with dyspraxia, hypermobility and numeracy difficulties. There really isn?t any dispute about his needs, nor about whether we are meeting them at his (independent) primary school. Parents want an EHC plan to ensure that his needs are fully met when he goes on to (state) secondary school. The LA are saying that his needs will be met by the School, whereas the School is saying things like ?best endeavours?, and ?where possible?. Parents feel that their child was sinking once before in his previous primary school and they are very much afraid that, without the EHC Plan, this will happen again.

Does anyone have any advice at all to offer in this situation, either about tactics or the likelihood of success or the tribunal process itself?

Parents are trying to make contact with IPSEA, and the LA has employed lawyers.

Many thanks,

Mary


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From lynnmccann at reachoutasc.com  Wed Feb  3 20:46:52 2016
From: lynnmccann at reachoutasc.com (Reachoutasc)
Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2016 20:46:52 +0000
Subject: [Senco-forum] Tribunal Advice please
In-Reply-To: <002601d15ebf$56b8a140$0429e3c0$@virginmedia.com>
References: <7481CB8A-38EF-452E-8128-E40CA9644D24@ntlworld.com>
	<002601d15ebf$56b8a140$0429e3c0$@virginmedia.com>
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I'm following this with interest as am just supporting a family to go to tribunal. Thank goodness for the advice on IPSEA website! It's shocking what some LEAs are doing to put people off getting their child's needs met, but they are all losing so much funding from the government.  When will SEND ever be funded enough?

Lynn McCann
www.reachoutasc.com

> On 3 Feb 2016, at 20:13, Ruth Newbury <rmnewbury at virginmedia.com> wrote:
>
> A friend of mine has just "won" a permanent placement for her son at a very expensive permanent boarding school for a child who has been treated by Great Ormond Street for the last ten years.
>
> It has actually cost the family a great deal of money to provide independent assessments for almost every aspect of his life going to appeal.
>
> However, the judge ruled at the tribunal that cost should never be a factor when deciding what is the right provision for a child.  There is a sentence in this child's statement that refers to this (and I suspect is in every child's statement in this authority) which is now apparently illegal with the new legislation.
>
> One of the local authorities defences was that funding what was considered to be needed by all the independent practitioners consulted was that this was an inappropriate use of public funding and was extravagant provision.
>
> I think that our children need to be protected from this approach and I would be advising any person with a child with very real problems that need specific interventions to start now collecting evidence of their needs - from everywhere.
>
> A school already trying to justify their approach by using the terms "?best endeavours?, and ?where possible?" is more or less saying - this will not happen because we can't afford it.  That argument at this tribunal was not permitted because it is putting money before the demonstrated needs of the child.
>
> I would be telling them not to accept this - and to be collecting evidence from all areas of their child's life - and I would want it documented about what exactly was the provision already made in the past - how it worked - and what was planned for the future.
>
> I wonder just how well the new legislation is really understood by all involved in its implementation.
>
> And when things do not go well go straight for independent advice from a solicitor specialising in educational matters.
>
> Regards
>
> Ruth
>
> It has cost this family something like ?30,000 to go to appeal - and they used the best.  What was really dreadful was having to find independent medical advice for the authority who refused to accept Great Ormond Streets reports without them being verified by an independent person!  And think in terms of around ?1000 per report too - get the best!
>
> And as always - it comes down to money!
>
> Special Needs Tribunals now have a new Head.  A Judge who used to be the head of IPSEA.  She has a profoundly handicapped child.  Would that more people involved in SEN provision knew exactly what it was like to have a child with special needs!
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mary Kelly [mailto:mary.kelly4 at ntlworld.com]
> Sent: 03 February 2016 19:11
> To: Senco Forum <Senco-forum at lists.education.gov.uk>
> Subject: [Senco-forum] Tribunal Advice please
>
> Dear All,
>
> I?m to be called as a witness for a Tribunal hearing. The child is a Year6 boy with dyspraxia, hypermobility and numeracy difficulties. There really isn?t any dispute about his needs, nor about whether we are meeting them at his (independent) primary school. Parents want an EHC plan to ensure that his needs are fully met when he goes on to (state) secondary school. The LA are saying that his needs will be met by the School, whereas the School is saying things like ?best endeavours?, and ?where possible?. Parents feel that their child was sinking once before in his previous primary school and they are very much afraid that, without the EHC Plan, this will happen again.
>
> Does anyone have any advice at all to offer in this situation, either about tactics or the likelihood of success or the tribunal process itself?
>
> Parents are trying to make contact with IPSEA, and the LA has employed lawyers.
>
> Many thanks,
>
> Mary
>
>
>
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From gdmorewood at supanet.com  Wed Feb  3 20:52:31 2016
From: gdmorewood at supanet.com (gdmorewood)
Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2016 20:52:31 -0000
Subject: [Senco-forum] Tribunal Advice please
In-Reply-To: <7481CB8A-38EF-452E-8128-E40CA9644D24@ntlworld.com>
References: <7481CB8A-38EF-452E-8128-E40CA9644D24@ntlworld.com>
Message-ID: <040e01d15ec4$cda5c850$68f158f0$@com>

Hi (again apologies for brevity - phew non-stop at mo...)

Do read these two blog posts - http://blog.optimus-education.com/however-tough-senco-role-can-be-%E2%80%93-remember-law-trumps-all & http://blog.optimus-education.com/sen-and-ehcps-law-still-trumps-all - also my resent presentation at a parent/carer event may help - http://www.gdmorewood.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/The-Law-Trumps-All.pdf

When is the Tribunal?  If you can mail me at weekend should be able to provide more coherent reply - all best, Gareth, Secondary SENCo


-----Original Message-----
From: Mary Kelly [mailto:mary.kelly4 at ntlworld.com]
Sent: 03 February 2016 19:11
To: Senco Forum
Subject: [Senco-forum] Tribunal Advice please

Dear All,

I?m to be called as a witness for a Tribunal hearing. The child is a Year6 boy with dyspraxia, hypermobility and numeracy difficulties. There really isn?t any dispute about his needs, nor about whether we are meeting them at his (independent) primary school. Parents want an EHC plan to ensure that his needs are fully met when he goes on to (state) secondary school. The LA are saying that his needs will be met by the School, whereas the School is saying things like ?best endeavours?, and ?where possible?. Parents feel that their child was sinking once before in his previous primary school and they are very much afraid that, without the EHC Plan, this will happen again.

Does anyone have any advice at all to offer in this situation, either about tactics or the likelihood of success or the tribunal process itself?

Parents are trying to make contact with IPSEA, and the LA has employed lawyers.

Many thanks,

Mary


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From chestersenco at gmail.com  Thu Feb  4 06:33:47 2016
From: chestersenco at gmail.com (Carli)
Date: Thu, 4 Feb 2016 06:33:47 +0000
Subject: [Senco-forum] application for EHCP
In-Reply-To: <001101d15eb3$0969ca60$1c3d5f20$@tiscali.co.uk>
References: <001101d15eb3$0969ca60$1c3d5f20$@tiscali.co.uk>
Message-ID: <56b2f0da.624fc20a.32bda.ffff80df@mx.google.com>

Hi
If the parent makes a direct application to the council for an EHCP, then the council will get in touch with you for information.

If you don't think the child needs an EHCP then don't write a letter.

Carli

-----Original Message-----
From: "Samantha Davies" <samantha.davies at tiscali.co.uk>
Sent: ?03/?02/?2016 18:45
To: "senco-forum at lists.education.gov.uk" <senco-forum at lists.education.gov.uk>
Subject: [Senco-forum] application for EHCP

Dear all,

I have had a letter from a parent of a child in Year 10 who has had a meeting with an independent supporter. The support worker has recommended that I write a letter to help them apply for an EHCP. The child has hypermobility and Irlen?s.
I feel uncertain about this as I thought that the school would need to make an application and use supporting evidence from external agencies. What information would be needed from school?
The school has made reasonable adjustments for access arrangements and have recent standardised scores.

Thanks in advance

Sam

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From Mmilesep at aol.com  Thu Feb  4 13:56:55 2016
From: Mmilesep at aol.com (Mmilesep at aol.com)
Date: Thu, 4 Feb 2016 08:56:55 -0500
Subject: [Senco-forum] Tribunal Advice please
Message-ID: <69ce50.14ca760c.43e4b2a7@aol.com>

Raises a few questions

So there would be those parents who wouldn't notice the cost, those who
could just about about manage it through sacrifice and those who would never
be  in the league of hiring the best solicitor. Is this advocating a three
tier  appeal system?

Reasonable adjustment has to be the key. If a local school, with support
from the LEA can meet 90% of a child's needs for another 6k (say) isn't this
reasonable adjusment (and prudent use of OUR money - we are the ones who
pay,  after all). Can it be reasonable to expect US to pay 40, 50, 60k to have
95% of  their needs met elsewhere?

I'm not being an advocate of the LEAs who can make things very difficult,
but they have less and less of our money to spend on increasing expensive
out-of-county placements. For the most extreme cases 250k plus per year is
not  unusual.

And where does inclusion sit with this current discussion?

In answer to your question, Mary, Stick to what you know, have the
information to support this, don't let the 'other side' wind you up, answer the
questions, be honest if you don't know. And take a cushion. They can be such
long, drawn out, bum numbing experiences.

Good luck

Martin EP


In a message dated 03/02/2016 20:13:48 GMT Standard Time,
rmnewbury at virginmedia.com writes:

A friend  of mine has just "won" a permanent placement for her son at a
very expensive  permanent boarding school for a child who has been treated by
Great Ormond  Street for the last ten years.

It has actually cost the family a great  deal of money to provide
independent assessments for almost every aspect of  his life going to appeal.

However, the judge ruled at the tribunal that  cost should never be a
factor when deciding what is the right provision for a  child.  There is a
sentence in this child's statement that refers to this  (and I suspect is in every
child's statement in this authority) which is now  apparently illegal with
the new legislation.

One of the local  authorities defences was that funding what was considered
to be needed by all  the independent practitioners consulted was that this
was an inappropriate use  of public funding and was extravagant provision.

I think that our  children need to be protected from this approach and I
would be advising any  person with a child with very real problems that need
specific interventions  to start now collecting evidence of their needs -
from everywhere.

A  school already trying to justify their approach by using the terms "?
best  endeavours?, and ?where possible?" is more or less saying - this will
not  happen because we can't afford it.  That argument at this tribunal was
not permitted because it is putting money before the demonstrated needs of
the  child.

I would be telling them not to accept this - and to be  collecting evidence
from all areas of their child's life - and I would want it  documented
about what exactly was the provision already made in the past - how  it worked -
and what was planned for the future.

I wonder just how well  the new legislation is really understood by all
involved in its  implementation.

And when things do not go well go straight for  independent advice from a
solicitor specialising in educational  matters.

Regards

Ruth

It has cost this family something  like ?30,000 to go to appeal - and they
used the best.  What was really  dreadful was having to find independent
medical advice for the authority who  refused to accept Great Ormond Streets
reports without them being verified by  an independent person!  And think in
terms of around ?1000 per report too  - get the best!

And as always - it comes down to money!

Special  Needs Tribunals now have a new Head.  A Judge who used to be the
head of  IPSEA.  She has a profoundly handicapped child.  Would that more
people involved in SEN provision knew exactly what it was like to have a child
 with special needs!

-----Original Message-----
From: Mary Kelly  [mailto:mary.kelly4 at ntlworld.com]
Sent: 03 February 2016 19:11
To:  Senco Forum <Senco-forum at lists.education.gov.uk>
Subject:  [Senco-forum] Tribunal Advice please

Dear All,

I?m to be called  as a witness for a Tribunal hearing. The child is a Year6
boy with dyspraxia,  hypermobility and numeracy difficulties. There really
isn?t any dispute about  his needs, nor about whether we are meeting them at
his (independent) primary  school. Parents want an EHC plan to ensure that
his needs are fully met when  he goes on to (state) secondary school. The LA
are saying that his needs will  be met by the School, whereas the School is
saying things like ?best  endeavours?, and ?where possible?. Parents feel
that their child was sinking  once before in his previous primary school
and they are very much afraid that,  without the EHC Plan, this will happen
again.

Does anyone have any  advice at all to offer in this situation, either
about tactics or the  likelihood of success or the tribunal process itself?

Parents are  trying to make contact with IPSEA, and the LA has employed
lawyers.

Many  thanks,

Mary


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From robertsoncml2 at gmail.com  Thu Feb  4 14:58:50 2016
From: robertsoncml2 at gmail.com (Christopher Robertson)
Date: Thu, 4 Feb 2016 14:58:50 +0000
Subject: [Senco-forum] Rochford Review - Survey
Message-ID: <CAFfXBEOrCZNnUqLborLEUWwZAF2BGEuOy8VD_JTQC9MsN6DiVg@mail.gmail.com>

Hi All,

I am forwarding a request to complete a questionnaire about the Rochford
Review that is advising the DfE on statutory assessment arrangements for
pupils working below the standard of national curriculum tests.

Christopher

Here is the request ...


Good afternoon,


You may be aware of the independent review I was asked to chair by the
Minister for Schools.  The review was asked to advise the Department for
Education on statutory assessment arrangements for pupils working below the
standard of national curriculum tests, including those with special
educational needs and disabilities. As part of our work, the members of the
Rochford Review are keen to hear the views of anybody with an interest in
this area.  I would like to invite you to complete our survey
https://www.surveymonkey.co.uk/r/rochfordreviewsurvey.


We are seeking to gain a wide range of views from stakeholders and would
encourage you to share the survey with any of your contacts who may be
interested.  Please note that all survey responses will be treated as
confidential. The survey will close at 23:59 on Monday 22nd February, 2016.


Further information about the Rochford Review is available here
<https://www.gov.uk/government/groups/the-rochford-review>. Since the
publication of our interim recommendations
<https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/rochford-review-interim-recommendations>
and pre key stage standards (KS1
<https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/pre-key-stage-1-pupils-working-below-the-test-standard>
and KS2
<https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/pre-key-stage-2-pupils-working-below-the-test-standard>)
in December,  we are now working on our final report, which will be
published in Spring/Summer 2016.


Yours sincerely

[image: cid:image004.png at 01D126BE.491D1720]

Diane Rochford

Chair of the Rochford Review
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From RITASOOD at hotmail.com  Thu Feb  4 18:59:56 2016
From: RITASOOD at hotmail.com (R S)
Date: Thu, 4 Feb 2016 18:59:56 +0000
Subject: [Senco-forum] Senco-forum Digest, Vol 60, Issue 4
In-Reply-To: <mailman.1.1454587202.1737.senco-forum@lists.education.gov.uk>
References: <mailman.1.1454587202.1737.senco-forum@lists.education.gov.uk>
Message-ID: <DB3PR02MB04253380396BDB0737260DA1D6D10@DB3PR02MB0425.eurprd02.prod.outlook.com>

Dear All,

Is there a clear difference between a SENCO and INCO?

Many Thanks.

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