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  1. Ame versus Corv
  2. Round 1
  3.  
  4. Ame
  5. Batman
  6. * Batman punches hard
  7. * Batman can cut with ranged or melee
  8. * Batman has freeze grenades + flamethrower
  9. * Batman has knock out poison
  10. * Batman has a taser
  11. Azrael
  12. * Azrael can lift good
  13. * Azrael slices good
  14. * Azrael can shoot fire
  15. Shang-Chi
  16. * Hits hard + nerve strikes
  17. * Sabretooth's speed is built on assumptions that were literally ancient for the character or scaling to bad characters
  18. * Shisho's scaling is built on WoC that may not even be translated right / scaling to a character in suboptimal conditions
  19. * Captain America has speed anti-feats
  20. * Corv's team has greatly lesser movement speed than Ame
  21. * Ame's team is more skilled
  22. * Ame's team is more durable
  23. * Shield is imperfect and there's no evidence Captain America would even use both
  24.  
  25. Corv
  26. * Sabertooth is strong
  27. * Shishio is strong
  28. * Cap is strong
  29. * The scaling IS valid
  30. * Scaling due to injuries doesn't matter
  31. * Corv's dudes are still fast
  32. * Corv's dudes are durable
  33. * Sabertooth's piercing > Ame's durability
  34. * Shishio cuts good, and his fire > ame tema's fire durability
  35. * Captain America's shield pierces
  36. * Batman has a buttload of anti-feats
  37. * Shang-Chi isn't as fast as presented
  38. * Azrael is slow
  39. * Esoterics don't matter
  40. * Cap won't hold back
  41. * Cap has demonstrated being able to be amidexterious with shields, dual wielding isn't out of question
  42. * The only reason the hydra shield got broken was cause a litearl S-tier hit it first
  43.  
  44. R2
  45. Ame
  46. * My team can one shot my opponent's
  47. * They get gassed
  48. * My opponents team is slow
  49. * My team has better dura
  50. * Nerve strikes still work
  51. * Corv's speed sucks
  52. * Corv's strength sucks
  53. * Corv's durability sucks
  54. * Corv's offense sucks
  55. * Batman anti-feats are old relative to the character
  56. * Batman's speed is good
  57. * Shang's speed is good
  58. * Opponent team sucks.
  59.  
  60. Corv
  61. * Ame's "is paper" argument sucks
  62. * The lifting feats are important because Ame never provided any himself
  63. * The one Ame did provide was not quantified
  64. * My team good
  65. * Ame team slow
  66. * My team fast
  67. * Ame's teams stuff won't work
  68.  
  69. Judge's Notes: Alright. Damn was this a long read. So a few points of compliments.
  70.  
  71. Clearly both of you did your research. Both bringing up anti-feats to try and tear down the other side while shooting several supporting points of your own. Ame for instance pointed out the time in change of the feats.
  72.  
  73. A few points of criticisms. For one, I think Ame's point about Japanese architecture really goes out the window inherently for much the same reason that I think "well they're a sci-fi civilization, of course they're better than irl". It relies mostly on real life internal logic that clearly wasn't present. Corv, while your formatting was fine in R1, holy fuck was R2 a slog to read.
  74.  
  75. I am going to however edge it out to Ame. While I think Corv did a lot of good things such as taking note of the multitude of anti-feats Batman has, there was one thing he did which was tying one of his win conditions to Captain America throwing his shield which was never described further than "this hits and you die". In the meantime, I think Ame did a lot of good in pointing out that a lot of Sabretooth's scaling relies on ANCIENT feats, and while I don't think it entirely is an ironclad defense, his method of saying "1 year is a long time in DC comics" is *fine* in comparison to a character relying on much longer feat range.
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