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- Ame versus Corv
- Round 1
- Ame
- Batman
- * Batman punches hard
- * Batman can cut with ranged or melee
- * Batman has freeze grenades + flamethrower
- * Batman has knock out poison
- * Batman has a taser
- Azrael
- * Azrael can lift good
- * Azrael slices good
- * Azrael can shoot fire
- Shang-Chi
- * Hits hard + nerve strikes
- * Sabretooth's speed is built on assumptions that were literally ancient for the character or scaling to bad characters
- * Shisho's scaling is built on WoC that may not even be translated right / scaling to a character in suboptimal conditions
- * Captain America has speed anti-feats
- * Corv's team has greatly lesser movement speed than Ame
- * Ame's team is more skilled
- * Ame's team is more durable
- * Shield is imperfect and there's no evidence Captain America would even use both
- Corv
- * Sabertooth is strong
- * Shishio is strong
- * Cap is strong
- * The scaling IS valid
- * Scaling due to injuries doesn't matter
- * Corv's dudes are still fast
- * Corv's dudes are durable
- * Sabertooth's piercing > Ame's durability
- * Shishio cuts good, and his fire > ame tema's fire durability
- * Captain America's shield pierces
- * Batman has a buttload of anti-feats
- * Shang-Chi isn't as fast as presented
- * Azrael is slow
- * Esoterics don't matter
- * Cap won't hold back
- * Cap has demonstrated being able to be amidexterious with shields, dual wielding isn't out of question
- * The only reason the hydra shield got broken was cause a litearl S-tier hit it first
- R2
- Ame
- * My team can one shot my opponent's
- * They get gassed
- * My opponents team is slow
- * My team has better dura
- * Nerve strikes still work
- * Corv's speed sucks
- * Corv's strength sucks
- * Corv's durability sucks
- * Corv's offense sucks
- * Batman anti-feats are old relative to the character
- * Batman's speed is good
- * Shang's speed is good
- * Opponent team sucks.
- Corv
- * Ame's "is paper" argument sucks
- * The lifting feats are important because Ame never provided any himself
- * The one Ame did provide was not quantified
- * My team good
- * Ame team slow
- * My team fast
- * Ame's teams stuff won't work
- Judge's Notes: Alright. Damn was this a long read. So a few points of compliments.
- Clearly both of you did your research. Both bringing up anti-feats to try and tear down the other side while shooting several supporting points of your own. Ame for instance pointed out the time in change of the feats.
- A few points of criticisms. For one, I think Ame's point about Japanese architecture really goes out the window inherently for much the same reason that I think "well they're a sci-fi civilization, of course they're better than irl". It relies mostly on real life internal logic that clearly wasn't present. Corv, while your formatting was fine in R1, holy fuck was R2 a slog to read.
- I am going to however edge it out to Ame. While I think Corv did a lot of good things such as taking note of the multitude of anti-feats Batman has, there was one thing he did which was tying one of his win conditions to Captain America throwing his shield which was never described further than "this hits and you die". In the meantime, I think Ame did a lot of good in pointing out that a lot of Sabretooth's scaling relies on ANCIENT feats, and while I don't think it entirely is an ironclad defense, his method of saying "1 year is a long time in DC comics" is *fine* in comparison to a character relying on much longer feat range.
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