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- (2:32:19 PM) redrighthand [~user@unaffiliated/redrighthand] entered the room.
- (2:32:19 PM) OrderChaos: Did you guys see the zoo asked people to stop making harambe memes?
- (2:32:24 PM) rrasco: sponz`work, all of the above
- (2:32:34 PM) Bru^ [~StrangeBr@mail.cokehc.com] entered the room.
- (2:32:34 PM) Bru^ left the room (quit: Changing host).
- (2:32:34 PM) Bru^ [~StrangeBr@unaffiliated/bru/x-2454193] entered the room.
- (2:32:35 PM) redrighthand: Anyone know of anythign better than fping for basic reachability diagnosis
- (2:32:36 PM) redrighthand: ?
- (2:32:37 PM) abakedapplepie: OrderChaos: and then fucked right off of all social media
- (2:32:37 PM) PSPM|13fca: .yt pity party melanie martinez
- (2:32:38 PM) layer-8: (PSPM|13fca) Melanie Martinez - Pity Party (Official Video) - length 3m 40s - 752,095 likes, 16,241 dislikes (97.9%) - 58,839,522 views - melanie martinez on 2015.06.02 - http://youtu.be/6bAPlojfgO0
- (2:32:38 PM) officerrando: OMFG printer people are the dolts of the IT world.
- (2:32:41 PM) B_RAD: rkeene,
- (2:32:44 PM) B_RAD: you do a lot of things.
- (2:32:51 PM) phormulate: I had a conversation at lunch about the virgin orgies for dionysus... greece really did have a flip side to the spartans
- (2:32:53 PM) B_RAD: do you work with VBA, or have you?
- (2:33:04 PM) crossan007: Greetings,
- (2:33:04 PM) crossan007: I am having difficulties sending emails with attachments when connected to internet.
- (2:33:12 PM) B_RAD: crossan007,
- (2:33:16 PM) B_RAD: what are you using to send the emails?
- (2:33:17 PM) rrasco: ...
- (2:33:21 PM) rrasco: the internet duh
- (2:33:23 PM) insecurity: mememee
- (2:33:27 PM) crossan007: BWAHAHAHA
- (2:33:29 PM) rrasco: or was it campbells soup cans
- (2:33:30 PM) luketheduke1: crossan007, did you clear your cache?
- (2:33:30 PM) redrighthand: phormulate: they just stole it from the pheonicians/tyrians, which is where the term temple harlot comes from
- (2:33:32 PM) crossan007: That just came in my help desk
- (2:33:32 PM) canlibg33k left the room (quit: Ping timeout: 240 seconds).
- (2:33:36 PM) phormulate: everyone doesn't still use pine?
- (2:33:38 PM) crossan007: I cant.
- (2:33:42 PM) redrighthand: emacs
- (2:33:48 PM) Alternity: hospitality IT? gooby pls
- (2:33:49 PM) redrighthand: mue4
- (2:33:50 PM) phormulate: good call redrighthand
- (2:33:56 PM) sam325 left the room (quit: Ping timeout: 258 seconds).
- (2:33:58 PM) spicyadmin: lol
- (2:33:58 PM) phormulate: guess that is why you are redrighthand
- (2:34:16 PM) phormulate: what about the etruscans
- (2:35:16 PM) redrighthand: Same, when the Hittite kingdom fell, these things spread across europe.
- (2:36:28 PM) phormulate: A great start for another time redrighthand, don't get me started about the fertile crescent... my woman just got home
- (2:36:42 PM) rrasco: wtf are yall going on about
- (2:36:48 PM) officerrando: jebusites.
- (2:36:49 PM) phormulate: ancient history
- (2:37:19 PM) redrighthand: the cern sacrifice was real
- (2:37:25 PM) redrighthand: .dong
- (2:37:25 PM) layer-8: (redrighthand) (/゚Д゚)/ WE WANT SPELUNKY (/゚Д゚)/
- (2:37:26 PM) Alternity: https://www.reddit.com/r/sysadminjobs/comments/4ydiha/hiring_devops_engineer_dcaustin_txdurham_nc_remote/ seems decent
- (2:37:27 PM) layer-8: (Alternity) [HIRING] DevOps Engineer - D.C./Austin, TX/Durham, NC (Remote) : sysadminjobs - 4 comments, 8 points - avanvlack2, 14d ago
- (2:37:31 PM) Alternity: but no salary range...
- (2:37:36 PM) Alternity: i hate that crap
- (2:37:45 PM) ThatBastard: .dong
- (2:37:45 PM) layer-8: (ThatBastard) (ง ͠° ͟ل͜ ͡°)ง ᴍᴀsᴛᴇʀ ʏᴏᴜʀ ᴅᴏɴɢᴇʀ, ᴍᴀsᴛᴇʀ ᴛʜᴇ ᴇɴᴇᴍʏ (ง ͠° ͟ل͜ ͡°)ง
- (2:37:57 PM) Alternity: ya i'm gonna spend time writing up a cover letter, spend hours in interviews, then find out your salary range for devoops engineering is 35k
- (2:38:16 PM) luketheduke1: ooh, I'd like that raise
- (2:38:35 PM) Alternity: back to the mines with you luke!
- (2:38:42 PM) rrasco: Alternity, doesnt say scale does it?
- (2:38:56 PM) Alternity: it lists 'Salary commensurate with experience'
- (2:39:07 PM) Alternity: aka we have a 10k range we are looking for but are not going to tell you
- (2:39:15 PM) Alternity: until we've already wasted as much of your time as possible
- (2:39:47 PM) syris226 left the room (quit: Read error: Connection reset by peer).
- (2:40:06 PM) killdash9: It's the first thing I ask a recruiter. I'm upfront and say "Neither of us wants to waste our time. If the pay scale isn't there, then we'll just part ways and maybe meet later."
- (2:40:26 PM) rrasco: pretty much
- (2:40:37 PM) killdash9: if they are cagey about it then I tell them 'sorry, not interested'
- (2:40:57 PM) squiggly12: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HQQOiilJwJ0
- (2:40:58 PM) layer-8: (squiggly12) Samsung Note 7 Caught Fire - length 44s - 214 likes, 73 dislikes (74.6%) - 131,043 views - Ariel Gonzalez on 2016.08.30
- (2:40:59 PM) officerrando: http://www.myconfinedspace.com/2016/09/01/how-do-i-catch-fish/
- (2:41:06 PM) killdash9: if they are actually paying industry standard there's no reason to hide it
- (2:41:34 PM) luketheduke1: sure there is
- (2:41:40 PM) luketheduke1: they're hoping to catch a sucker
- (2:42:09 PM) killdash9: exactly.
- (2:42:23 PM) pieties: i've probably been that sucker!
- (2:42:23 PM) redrighthand: anything better than fping? hping3?
- (2:42:42 PM) penarestel [~penareste@108.61.228.170] entered the room.
- (2:42:44 PM) redrighthand: not wanting to craft packets just do some more advanced basic icmp reachability scripting
- (2:43:00 PM) redrighthand: Most of us have been that sucker
- (2:43:04 PM) mhache left the room (quit: Ping timeout: 240 seconds).
- (2:43:05 PM) darkscrypt: redrighthand: tcping?
- (2:43:06 PM) redrighthand: Many of us ARE that sucker
- (2:43:33 PM) redrighthand: darkscrypt: linux only pleb
- (2:44:09 PM) redrighthand: No offense
- (2:44:22 PM) darkscrypt: redrighthand: how is that not offensive?
- (2:44:26 PM) akshat left the room (quit: Quit: My Mac has gone to sleep. ZZZzzz…).
- (2:45:39 PM) darkscrypt: redrighthand: you assume just because somebody uses windows that they are common folk and don't have any idea what you are talking about?
- (2:45:47 PM) darkscrypt: redrighthand: to be honest you seem like a typical neckbearded prick.
- (2:45:53 PM) darkscrypt: no offense.
- (2:46:01 PM) PSPM|13fca: NinjaStyle, i'm remoted into the exchange online shell. there wouldnt happen to be some kind of "echo $EffectiveUserName" is there
- (2:46:03 PM) luketheduke1: hush yourself, you windows n00b
- (2:46:05 PM) luketheduke1: :)
- (2:46:21 PM) PSPM|13fca: luketheduke1, windows master race
- (2:46:27 PM) NinjaStyle: PSPM|13fca: it should just be the account you connected as
- (2:46:34 PM) luketheduke1: gentoo 4 lyf
- (2:46:37 PM) spicyadmin: whatever credentials you put in to connect
- (2:46:42 PM) spicyadmin: are the credentials the shell is operating iwth
- (2:46:44 PM) NinjaStyle: maybe check your permission on the web admin and see ifthey are correct there as well?
- (2:46:49 PM) PSPM|13fca: thats what i figured
- (2:47:00 PM) killdash9: redrighthand sounds like a noob who hasn't learned to stop wasting his time and pick the best tool for the job. Even if it's Windows.
- (2:47:38 PM) spicyadmin: *waggles willy*
- (2:47:44 PM) ThatBastard: It's not what you use, it's what those you support use
- (2:47:52 PM) luketheduke1: ^
- (2:48:03 PM) tenthshift: it's not the size of your packets, it's how you route them
- (2:48:07 PM) ThatBastard: So, I work on a speak'n'spel
- (2:48:07 PM) PSPM|13fca: killdash9, i'm not sure he's even speaking english
- (2:48:12 PM) NinjaStyle: most people in IT see the merits of both linux and windows
- (2:48:19 PM) ThatBastard: Get at my level
- (2:48:28 PM) squiggly12: i don't even use an OS anymore
- (2:48:34 PM) ThatBastard: The Cow says... Mooob
- (2:48:37 PM) luketheduke1: yes, but linux makes you euphoric
- (2:48:39 PM) squiggly12: i have transcended to a higher plane of existence
- (2:48:42 PM) NinjaStyle: squiggly12: u just use paper?
- (2:48:44 PM) PSPM|13fca: y'all heathens. TempleOS will be your savior
- (2:48:49 PM) squiggly12: yes NinjaStyle
- (2:48:58 PM) NinjaStyle: paperOS
- (2:49:05 PM) PSPM|13fca: oh fuck i remember intro cs courses
- (2:49:08 PM) PSPM|13fca: paper coding
- (2:49:13 PM) PSPM|13fca: it was like the 60s all over again
- (2:49:14 PM) darkscrypt: killdash9: i kind of get the idea people like redrighthand finally figured out how to install their first linux distro and start forming an elitist mentality right from the get go.
- (2:49:21 PM) ThatBastard: I do all my admin work on a 1985 Conair POTS phone
- (2:49:23 PM) felda: THIS IS A STICKUP https://i.reddituploads.com/f48fab94fe674689bcc3ca2d3d1cb447?fit=max&h=1536&w=1536&s=30bfcc4b7df7438ba4ac9f27dfa02f4e
- (2:49:28 PM) luketheduke1: I write down ones and zeros
- (2:49:32 PM) squiggly12: .bofh
- (2:49:32 PM) layer-8: (squiggly12) knot in cables caused data stream to become twisted and kinked
- (2:49:36 PM) squiggly12: yes
- (2:49:38 PM) squiggly12: perfect
- (2:49:38 PM) outside: redrighthand: Do you live in a primarily english-speaking country, and is it your primary language?
- (2:49:51 PM) pieties: if your only tool is a hammer everything looks like a nail
- (2:50:03 PM) ThatBastard: Dis my admin box: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/c5/BeigeTLround.jpg
- (2:50:17 PM) darkscrypt: lol @ redrighthand he left after that.
- (2:50:17 PM) rrasco: systemctl restart redrighthand
- (2:50:23 PM) darkscrypt: poor pleb.
- (2:50:52 PM) staticsun left the room (quit: Ping timeout: 264 seconds).
- (2:51:08 PM) PSPM|13fca: sudo rm -rf /dev/urandom
- (2:51:14 PM) PSPM|13fca: :^)
- (2:51:16 PM) luketheduke1: lol
- (2:51:38 PM) darkscrypt: i think the jargon file needs to be updated. thats my pet peeve is the elitism crap.
- (2:51:53 PM) darkscrypt: eww, you use windows, you must be an idiot.
- (2:51:58 PM) luketheduke1: but linux /is/ just for elites
- (2:52:04 PM) darkscrypt: every field has something like that. Programming
- (2:52:11 PM) luketheduke1: Tcl
- (2:52:16 PM) NinjaStyle: lol
- (2:52:17 PM) darkscrypt: lisp.
- (2:52:20 PM) felda: https://i.reddituploads.com/67aaddc1910d4f379ecbee71164abfba?fit=max&h=1536&w=1536&s=1a1e2218357ba450569f8fab583d5439
- (2:52:22 PM) felda: .dong
- (2:52:22 PM) layer-8: (felda) (⌐■_■)=/̵͇̿̿/'̿'̿̿̿ ̿ ̿̿ ヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ノ Keep Your Dongers Where i Can See Them
- (2:52:48 PM) ***hxcsp switching from xcfce i3
- (2:52:51 PM) hxcsp: xfce
- (2:52:58 PM) darkscrypt: i kind of feel bad that I used to be one of those linux purists.
- (2:53:02 PM) darkscrypt: it makes me shudder inside.
- (2:53:04 PM) rightshift [~textual@8ta-145-113-52.telkomadsl.co.za] entered the room.
- (2:53:07 PM) zerocool: guys i am having a shit problem, c:\users\temp ALWAYS, despite removing all fucked keys in hklm\software\microsoft\windows nt\currentversion\profilelist and profileguid
- (2:53:14 PM) redrighthand: darkscrypt: dude calm down
- (2:53:15 PM) zerocool: logout, reboot from there
- (2:53:18 PM) luketheduke1: I'm not a purist, but I do have trouble thinking of when Windows would be better
- (2:53:21 PM) zerocool: login and STILL temp
- (2:53:21 PM) abakedapplepie: what a non conforming bot
- (2:53:23 PM) zerocool: any ideas?
- (2:53:37 PM) abakedapplepie: layer-8 has no ctcp version response
- (2:53:41 PM) redrighthand: We all have to pay penance to MSoft at some point, I just like to poke fun, don't take things so seriously. Sysadmin 101
- (2:53:41 PM) PSPM|13fca: luketheduke1, AD is pretty nice
- (2:53:49 PM) darkscrypt: layer-8: depends on what your workload is and what you support.
- (2:53:55 PM) NinjaStyle: try to get users to use linux
- (2:54:02 PM) NinjaStyle: just fucking try it
- (2:54:09 PM) darkscrypt: err luketheduke1 *
- (2:54:13 PM) redrighthand: Samba4 replaces AD for me
- (2:54:14 PM) luketheduke1: To be honest, I might not know enough about the features that enterprise windows has
- (2:54:17 PM) TuxedoJack: Hunterkll: ... not during the middle of a rave...
- (2:54:27 PM) darkscrypt: i've run samba4 as a domain controller before.
- (2:54:29 PM) PSPM|13fca: NinjaStyle, i cant even get people to use ubuntu/mint
- (2:54:30 PM) darkscrypt: its not terrible.
- (2:54:39 PM) NinjaStyle: windows exists because of its enterprise features
- (2:54:43 PM) pieties: i poke fun at windows admins who relatively recently discovered that a powerful scripting language is useful for administration. WHO KNEW?!
- (2:54:49 PM) Hunterkll: TuxedoJack, i was drunk as hell and smoked like 3 different things
- (2:54:54 PM) Hunterkll: some glowsticks were inserted too
- (2:54:55 PM) redrighthand: Right now *nix is more about admins using a crappy OS for systems that they shouldnt IMHO
- (2:54:56 PM) Hunterkll: it was a hell of a party
- (2:55:02 PM) luketheduke1: yeah but because I've never worked in a windows environment, I don't know what can be done with it
- (2:55:07 PM) abakedapplepie: Hunterkll: o.0
- (2:55:09 PM) redrighthand: Windows is simply not nearly as reliable in many applications, and yes I include embedded in that
- (2:55:12 PM) luketheduke1: what do you mean redrighthand ?
- (2:55:12 PM) chap [~chap@unaffiliated/chap] entered the room.
- (2:55:16 PM) NinjaStyle: luketheduke1: its just simplicity of managing a ton of users
- (2:55:17 PM) TuxedoJack: Hunterkll: at a rave, give me a bowl or two and 100mg of MDMA, and I'm a happy man
- (2:55:24 PM) PSPM|13fca: redrighthand, what the ever loving fuck are you on about
- (2:55:26 PM) abakedapplepie: Hunterkll: inserted where?
- (2:55:27 PM) PSPM|13fca: and can you english
- (2:55:30 PM) HidMov [~HidMov@unaffiliated/hidmov] entered the room.
- (2:55:36 PM) JollyRgrs: abakedapplepie: take that to PM
- (2:55:39 PM) TuxedoJack: Though the MDMA is just a quarterly antidepressant for me, it keeps me from killing everyone
- (2:55:40 PM) Hunterkll: LOL
- (2:55:49 PM) abakedapplepie: inquiring minds want to know
- (2:55:53 PM) spicyadmin: darkscrypt, how reliable did you find samba DC? i've seen people say it's a nightmare, and people say it's fine
- (2:56:01 PM) Hunterkll: abakedapplepie, you'll have to find the usenet post about that party
- (2:56:01 PM) Hunterkll: ;)
- (2:56:05 PM) abakedapplepie: oh boy
- (2:56:09 PM) Hunterkll: spicyadmin, i'd never ever let it touch production
- (2:56:10 PM) redrighthand: PSPM|13fca: Lets say you needed a DHCP server on a network. Would you use ISC-DHCP on *nix/bsd or Windows DHCP?
- (2:56:11 PM) luketheduke1: MDMA has too many risks IMO
- (2:56:11 PM) Hunterkll: no matter how reliable it is
- (2:56:18 PM) Hunterkll: redrighthand, depends on my needs
- (2:56:23 PM) redrighthand: Of course
- (2:56:26 PM) Hunterkll: redrighthand, if i have a mostly windows network with windows domain controllers
- (2:56:27 PM) NinjaStyle: redrighthand: windows
- (2:56:28 PM) redrighthand: The right anser for everything
- (2:56:32 PM) darkscrypt: spicyadmin: so I moved a domain of 60 people over to that from an existing server 2003 domain. Setup group policy and folder redirection. It wasn't terrible.
- (2:56:34 PM) Hunterkll: or even just using windows AD for linux machines
- (2:56:35 PM) luketheduke1: >anser
- (2:56:45 PM) TuxedoJack: luketheduke1: I'd rather that once a quarter than a shitload of SSRIs. The side effects for those... fucking nope, i don't want my drive lowered
- (2:56:47 PM) abakedapplepie: > windows ad for linux
- (2:56:47 PM) abakedapplepie: wat
- (2:56:48 PM) redrighthand: luketheduke1: irc man, calm down
- (2:56:51 PM) Hunterkll: redrighthand, doing DHCP on the DCs is what i normally do ... windows DHCP if you're using Windows DNS helps keep your reverse DNS and dynamic registrations in order
- (2:56:55 PM) Hunterkll: abakedapplepie, yes, it's quite useful
- (2:56:55 PM) redrighthand: Samba4 to get rid of AD ftw
- (2:56:55 PM) TuxedoJack: The comedown's a motherfucker, but the side effects are better in good company
- (2:57:02 PM) luketheduke1: .trigger redrighthand
- (2:57:02 PM) layer-8: redrighthand - I feel offended by your recent action(s). Please read http://stop-irc-bullying.eu/stop
- (2:57:03 PM) Hunterkll: abakedapplepie, it's doing kerberos ez mode with centralized authentication
- (2:57:04 PM) spicyadmin: you can use AD as an authentication provider for linux no problem
- (2:57:08 PM) redrighthand: There is no reason you cant do all that from another DNS server
- (2:57:16 PM) Hunterkll: redrighthand, actually, there is
- (2:57:18 PM) abakedapplepie: is that the best thing for the job though?
- (2:57:19 PM) Hunterkll: i've seen it break horribly
- (2:57:27 PM) Hunterkll: redrighthand, our VPN has its own DHCP
- (2:57:28 PM) darkscrypt: redrighthand: samba4 to get rid of ad? you sound like a nutcase. there are times where it can be done, sure.
- (2:57:31 PM) redrighthand: Ive seen windows break horribly too
- (2:57:33 PM) abakedapplepie: i cant imagine richard stallman running AD on his network
- (2:57:35 PM) Hunterkll: redrighthand, it really fucks up RDNS and registration in that subnet
- (2:57:43 PM) Hunterkll: abakedapplepie, depends on your needs, but almost always in my case it is
- (2:57:45 PM) spicyadmin: abakedapplepie, depends on your needs. you could combine that with ADFS to federate your users to cloud services
- (2:57:48 PM) darkscrypt: redrighthand: I've done it myself for a few clients, but there are serious issues with it and terrible support.
- (2:57:51 PM) Hunterkll: that
- (2:57:56 PM) Hunterkll: abakedapplepie, ADFS with AWS or Azure
- (2:57:57 PM) redrighthand: with which server?
- (2:58:04 PM) Hunterkll: also
- (2:58:08 PM) Hunterkll: ISC DHCP server is dead
- (2:58:09 PM) Hunterkll: i think
- (2:58:11 PM) Hunterkll: wait no that's BIND
- (2:58:11 PM) redrighthand: With which seperate server? darkscrypt
- (2:58:12 PM) Hunterkll: that forked
- (2:58:15 PM) Hunterkll: idk about ISC DHCP
- (2:58:21 PM) redrighthand: isc is bind and dhcp you dolt
- (2:58:24 PM) Hunterkll: BIND is EOLing
- (2:58:28 PM) redrighthand: they abandoned bind10
- (2:58:31 PM) redrighthand: I think
- (2:58:32 PM) darkscrypt: redrighthand: not sure what you are even asking.
- (2:58:32 PM) spicyadmin: i'm having deja vu
- (2:58:36 PM) Hunterkll: redrighthand, new project
- (2:58:45 PM) pieties: me too spicyadmin
- (2:58:46 PM) redrighthand: You said you tried and it broke, I asked what server you tried it with?
- (2:58:50 PM) NinjaStyle: redrighthand: youre a fucking douche
- (2:58:56 PM) darkscrypt: redrighthand: i never said it broke. I said there were issues.
- (2:58:56 PM) Hunterkll: what
- (2:58:56 PM) NinjaStyle: redrighthand: i bet you smell like shit
- (2:58:59 PM) pieties: which loop # are we in
- (2:59:00 PM) luketheduke1: s/a fucking/fucking a
- (2:59:00 PM) layer-8: Correction, <NinjaStyle> redrighthand: youre fucking a douche
- (2:59:05 PM) Hunterkll: wow
- (2:59:07 PM) spicyadmin: ops save us from this nightmare
- (2:59:08 PM) Hunterkll: hostile up in this joint
- (2:59:09 PM) spicyadmin: pls
- (2:59:12 PM) Hunterkll: cryptic1, daddy
- (2:59:21 PM) gr33ngiant112 [4275e570@gateway/web/freenode/ip.66.117.229.112] entered the room.
- (2:59:29 PM) anthony_ [~anthony@host81-132-79-19.range81-132.btcentralplus.com] entered the room.
- (2:59:29 PM) Hunterkll: redrighthand, Bundy
- (2:59:31 PM) luketheduke1: .trigger Hunterkll
- (2:59:31 PM) layer-8: Hunterkll - I feel offended by your recent action(s). Please read http://stop-irc-bullying.eu/stop
- (2:59:31 PM) Hunterkll: the project is Bundy
- (2:59:42 PM) Hunterkll: redrighthand, Bundy is separating out from ISC
- (2:59:46 PM) redrighthand: wtf peeps, lets review, darkscrypt says there a problems using a seperate dhcp server, I ask what server he used, he refuses to answer and insults me, and im the douche?
- (2:59:50 PM) ThatBastard left the room (quit: Ping timeout: 264 seconds).
- (2:59:54 PM) Hunterkll: no
- (2:59:57 PM) Hunterkll: ninja called you a douche
- (3:00:01 PM) Hunterkll: keep the insults straight plz
- (3:00:03 PM) TuxedoJack: FUCK'S SAKE. Why does ANYONE leave Wizard Mode enabled on a Ricoh...
- (3:00:09 PM) darkscrypt: redrighthand: i never even mentioned dhcp.
- (3:00:15 PM) PSPM|13fca: TuxedoJack, >ricoh
- (3:00:19 PM) spicyadmin: fuck ricoh
- (3:00:21 PM) Hunterkll: anyway
- (3:00:24 PM) redrighthand: what were you talking about then, samba4?
- (3:00:28 PM) Hunterkll: in a windows environment, windows integrated DNS is the best option
- (3:00:31 PM) Hunterkll: you could use something like bluecat
- (3:00:34 PM) darkscrypt: spicyadmin: i have the pleasure of working with ricoh embedded papercut right now.
- (3:00:36 PM) NinjaStyle: redrighthand: its because the fact that you believe windows is never the right tool for the job, that makes you an unreasonable dipshit
- (3:00:37 PM) Hunterkll: which can't handle the load that a piddly tiny windows server can
- (3:00:40 PM) Hunterkll: of dynamic DNS registration of clients
- (3:00:42 PM) Hunterkll: that's retarded
- (3:00:53 PM) redrighthand: NinjaStyle: You are making straw men attacks on arguments I never made
- (3:00:54 PM) luketheduke1: To be fair, Windows is malware
- (3:00:59 PM) ***luketheduke1 kicks himself
- (3:01:00 PM) redrighthand: So kindly correct yourself
- (3:01:07 PM) darkscrypt: redrighthand: yes, I was talking about samba 4, and yes I said there are issues. and I didn't comment on specific issues because i'm not going to give you a technical write up for you to further attack.
- (3:01:10 PM) abakedapplepie: darkscrypt: papercut is THE BEST
- (3:01:13 PM) TuxedoJack: PSPM|13fca: fuck Sharp, ESPECIALLY fuck Canon, and fuck Konica Minolta. Fuck HP's shitty UI, and fuck Lexmark / Dell / Xerox
- (3:01:15 PM) abakedapplepie: i love papercut
- (3:01:18 PM) abakedapplepie: and ricoh support
- (3:01:23 PM) redrighthand: darkscrypt: ok cool, miscommunication
- (3:01:23 PM) abakedapplepie: such help many papercut wow
- (3:01:26 PM) darkscrypt: redrighthand: you've already demonstrated to me that you are here to troll, and aren't really of the mentality of finding amenable solutions.
- (3:01:32 PM) redrighthand: Yeah samba was buggy, but 4 has been smooth for me so far
- (3:01:44 PM) PSPM|13fca: TuxedoJack, >$printer
- (3:01:47 PM) redrighthand: But thats just anedotal on both our parts
- (3:01:49 PM) PSPM|13fca: saved you some typing
- (3:01:51 PM) spicyadmin: save me from this hellish nightmare
- (3:01:58 PM) ***abakedapplepie kills spicyadmin
- (3:02:05 PM) spicyadmin: printer discussion
- (3:02:10 PM) spicyadmin: mixed with nix vs windwos discussion
- (3:02:12 PM) redrighthand: Witness all, those who get buthurt when you insult them for using windows.
- (3:02:15 PM) spicyadmin: just fuck my shit up
- (3:02:17 PM) redrighthand: And the aftermath
- (3:02:19 PM) APCyberax left the room (quit: Ping timeout: 260 seconds).
- (3:02:25 PM) abakedapplepie: jesus take the wheel
- (3:02:29 PM) darkscrypt: I use linux frequently, but I also use windows frequently. I like both. I don't play sides on linux versus windows, that discussion seems fruitless.
- (3:02:30 PM) redrighthand: .donger
- (3:02:30 PM) layer-8: (redrighthand) ヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ノTAKING A DUMPヽ༼ຈل͜ຈ༽ノ
- (3:02:33 PM) abakedapplepie: jesus support my network
- (3:02:39 PM) darkscrypt: Jesus take the NOC
- (3:02:47 PM) SenTedStevens: not touching!
- (3:02:48 PM) SenTedStevens: not touching!
- (3:02:53 PM) ***TuxedoJack makes spicyadmin watch the Twilight movie series on loop and only Mountain Dew / Doritos for snacks
- (3:02:53 PM) darkscrypt: I think my prayers must be routed over UDP
- (3:03:00 PM) redrighthand: darkscrypt: well you mean besides the entirely fundamental to computing discussion that is user freedom, aka the four freedoms, yeah, fruitless
- (3:03:04 PM) PSPM|13fca: NinjaStyle, fuck me man
- (3:03:07 PM) redrighthand: I mean its only about user freedom vs user prison
- (3:03:09 PM) redrighthand: nothing big
- (3:03:11 PM) SenTedStevens: I prefer calling it "faith-based computing"
- (3:03:12 PM) absurdity1 left the room (quit: Quit: WeeChat 1.4).
- (3:03:18 PM) abakedapplepie: PSPM|13fca: fuck you? no fuck me!
- (3:03:19 PM) PSPM|13fca: i've spent my entire day at the office trying to get a damn mailbox cleared up
- (3:03:23 PM) outside: TuxedoJack: What's up? We like canon copiers and hp printers - show me on the doll where hte printer touched you
- (3:03:24 PM) luketheduke1: freedom means shit when you've got a business to run
- (3:03:24 PM) NinjaStyle: PSPM|13fca: switch still not working?
- (3:03:27 PM) PSPM|13fca: nah
- (3:03:31 PM) darkscrypt: luketheduke1: indeed.
- (3:03:32 PM) PSPM|13fca: i'm in the role
- (3:03:33 PM) abakedapplepie: PSPM|13fca are you fucking kidding me
- (3:03:35 PM) abakedapplepie: now whats wrong lol
- (3:03:41 PM) abakedapplepie: that was like 6 hours ago
- (3:03:41 PM) PSPM|13fca: i'm added to organization management
- (3:03:44 PM) darkscrypt: redrighthand: freedom has its place. but so do conventions and established best practices.
- (3:03:56 PM) darkscrypt: redrighthand: something that is too free isn't always productive.
- (3:03:57 PM) TuxedoJack: outside: shitty Ricoh web UI won't let you commit changes while someone's in front of it
- (3:04:01 PM) PSPM|13fca: mailbox import export shows me as a member
- (3:04:10 PM) TuxedoJack: And fuck Canon copiers and HP printers, at least after the 4300dtn
- (3:04:15 PM) redrighthand: I say fuck many of the "established" best practices, the fucking "established" best practices I see (and I've consulted for many years) are mostly crap
- (3:04:25 PM) NinjaStyle: PSPM|13fca: i would seriously just add myself to every role
- (3:04:29 PM) tenthshift: Canon and HP is okay, sort of
- (3:04:33 PM) abakedapplepie: PSPM|13fca: sudo powershell remove-mailbox
- (3:04:37 PM) abakedapplepie: kek
- (3:04:45 PM) NinjaStyle: redrighthand is probably in high school
- (3:04:48 PM) spicyadmin: darkscrypt, if your prayers were routed over tcp the latency would be unacceptable :)
- (3:04:52 PM) darkscrypt: conventions and best practices are great.
- (3:05:08 PM) luketheduke1: just fuck my shit up darkscrypt
- (3:05:11 PM) redrighthand: So enjoy not owning your own data or devices and paying out the ass for licensing to death fees, while I work on open sourcing my business*where practically possible without impacted business too negatively*
- (3:05:13 PM) darkscrypt: spicyadmin: my prayers are udp on a comcast connection routed to a server connected via windstream
- (3:05:18 PM) spicyadmin: ouch
- (3:05:23 PM) abakedapplepie: redrighthand so basically, you are better than everyone and know more than everyone else
- (3:05:29 PM) redrighthand: Negati
- (3:05:31 PM) redrighthand: ve
- (3:05:37 PM) redrighthand: straw men again
- (3:05:42 PM) spicyadmin: someone bring an interject bot in this channel
- (3:05:45 PM) spicyadmin: and my hell will be complete
- (3:05:46 PM) redrighthand: Seriously people, go take a logic class
- (3:05:46 PM) abakedapplepie: well if all best practices are shite
- (3:05:47 PM) NinjaStyle: redrighthand: you are in high school right?
- (3:05:50 PM) redrighthand: yep
- (3:05:54 PM) NinjaStyle: knew it
- (3:06:04 PM) abakedapplepie: oh, sweetie.
- (3:06:05 PM) killdash9: man, I called that.
- (3:06:08 PM) PSPM|13fca: ha
- (3:06:08 PM) darkscrypt: redrighthand: startup company right?
- (3:06:09 PM) felda: aww yeah boi boss is taking everyone to chinese tomorrow
- (3:06:13 PM) spicyadmin: redrighthand, "paying out the ass for licensing to death fees"
- (3:06:15 PM) felda: lunch gonna be gud
- (3:06:17 PM) spicyadmin: are you anti-vmware?
- (3:06:19 PM) sam325 [~sam325@unaffiliated/sam325] entered the room.
- (3:06:29 PM) darkscrypt: i think he is running a startup company or something.
- (3:06:32 PM) abakedapplepie: spicyadmin hes just a kid, so naive
- (3:06:33 PM) PSPM|13fca: oh hey felda, MS get back to you
- (3:06:34 PM) redrighthand: Yep, using proxmox
- (3:06:35 PM) daynaskully left the room (quit: Quit: quit).
- (3:06:42 PM) felda: PSPM|13fca nope
- (3:06:45 PM) abakedapplepie: redrighthand: shoulda used hyper-v
- (3:06:46 PM) felda: I'm just going to assume we are fine
- (3:06:50 PM) NinjaStyle: its his own "consulting firm" where he tells grams to use linux or fuck off
- (3:06:53 PM) spicyadmin: hyper-v is free as in beer
- (3:07:03 PM) redrighthand: but not speech
- (3:07:05 PM) killdash9: young-uns ain't yet realized that their time is valuable too and finding a tool that 'just works' is far more valuable than recreating the wheel.
- (3:07:11 PM) abakedapplepie: who gives a shit
- (3:07:18 PM) abakedapplepie: free is free
- (3:07:20 PM) outside: no, I dig redrighthand - it's cute. Like watching a dog coming off general anesthesia from an operation learn to walk again over teh course of an hour.
- (3:07:23 PM) redrighthand: Or I realized that Richard Stallman is right and is a man ahead of his time
- (3:07:32 PM) redrighthand: and GPLvX is the way to go
- (3:07:35 PM) abakedapplepie: and its only second to vmware, and even that opinion varies based on who you ask
- (3:07:38 PM) spicyadmin: AGPL > GPL
- (3:07:43 PM) PSPM|13fca: stallman is a goddamn maniac
- (3:07:43 PM) redrighthand: for business
- (3:07:43 PM) luketheduke1: oh okay, he's just a troll
- (3:07:44 PM) killdash9: redrighthand: do you also eat your foot skin?
- (3:07:52 PM) rrasco: i agree with redrighthand windows is stupid only a fool would use it
- (3:07:57 PM) killdash9: in public. On stage
- (3:08:04 PM) abakedapplepie: eugh
- (3:08:05 PM) felda: https://i.reddituploads.com/d4891a4b27cf4a72bca55d3952ad9da7?fit=max&h=1536&w=1536&s=d7e4c5891fc272e7c547ced6bb688663
- (3:08:06 PM) abakedapplepie: dont
- (3:08:12 PM) spicyadmin: abakedapplepie, depends what you need. hyper-v has better CPU scheduling etc but VMware does things like hardware passthru way better
- (3:08:20 PM) redrighthand: Ok, another irrelevant logical fallacy about rms arguments
- (3:08:24 PM) redrighthand: Havent seen that one before
- (3:08:28 PM) abakedapplepie: spicyadmin: like i said, depends on who you ask :P
- (3:08:41 PM) abakedapplepie: as a hyper-v admin, i wish hardware passthrough was even close to vmware
- (3:08:41 PM) PSPM|13fca: ok
- (3:08:42 PM) Alternity: i ask about our offsite backups
- (3:08:45 PM) killdash9: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I25UeVXrEHQ
- (3:08:46 PM) layer-8: (killdash9) Richard Stallman Eats Something From His Foot - length 2m 22s - 1,848 likes, 287 dislikes (86.6%) - 521,937 views - John Rearick on 2009.04.10
- (3:08:46 PM) PSPM|13fca: someone save this chat
- (3:08:46 PM) Alternity: "oh they are automatic"
- (3:08:53 PM) redrighthand: hehe, he might be a visionary about human rights and computing, but he ate his foot skin once and hes wierd, lets go worship bill gates
- (3:08:53 PM) Alternity: ok well do they have any reporting?
- (3:08:53 PM) PSPM|13fca: and send it to redrighthand in 7 years
- (3:08:59 PM) Alternity: i check the offsite backups... haven't run in 2 months
- (3:09:02 PM) abakedapplepie: i had to go to a third party software to get a serial port passthrough
- (3:09:07 PM) spicyadmin: Alternity, classic
- (3:09:08 PM) abakedapplepie: it works, but damn if it doesnt feel dirty
- (3:09:09 PM) Alternity: sometimes i feel like the only adult in the room
- (3:09:25 PM) abakedapplepie: err usb port passthru not serial
- (3:09:26 PM) rrasco: can we add an age gate to this chan
- (3:09:27 PM) abakedapplepie: but same diff
- (3:09:29 PM) redrighthand: Sometimes I feel like the only freethinker in the room
- (3:09:30 PM) PSPM|13fca: Alternity, you as childish as anyone and you knows it
- (3:09:33 PM) outside: redrighthand: do you have a family beet farm?
- (3:09:36 PM) Alternity: PSPM|13fca: no u
- (3:09:39 PM) rrasco: credit card required, all donations go to channel hosting fees
- (3:09:42 PM) PSPM|13fca: hey redrighthand go to #socialanalysis
- (3:09:44 PM) NinjaStyle: srsly
- (3:09:47 PM) PSPM|13fca: they'd love you over there
- (3:09:51 PM) PSPM|13fca: where is FAMAS
- (3:09:55 PM) Code_Man65 left the room (quit: Ping timeout: 255 seconds).
- (3:10:01 PM) abakedapplepie: redrighthand: honey, youre young, naive, and free. dont let the haters get you down. you are a beautiful butterfly, just do you
- (3:10:03 PM) darkscrypt: killdash9: your comment about recreating the wheel reminds me of this http://www.joelonsoftware.com/articles/fog0000000069.html
- (3:10:13 PM) spicyadmin: abakedapplepie, it's honestly weird that the hardpare passthrough is so bad
- (3:10:13 PM) Alternity: redrighthand: smoke weed everyday
- (3:10:19 PM) abakedapplepie: spicyadmin: right
- (3:10:21 PM) kenrin: channel hosting fees ?
- (3:10:24 PM) abakedapplepie: its so painfully obvious
- (3:10:30 PM) kenrin: lol
- (3:10:36 PM) PSPM|13fca: Alternity, oh yeah? well nnyyeeeeaaaaaaa
- (3:10:38 PM) darkscrypt: redrighthand: you really aren't the only free thinker. You just don't have the capacity to consider other peoples viewpoints as valid.
- (3:10:40 PM) killdash9: redrighthand: please save this conversation and look back at it in 20 years. Please. Then contact me and I'll buy you beer to drown your shame
- (3:10:47 PM) abakedapplepie: haha
- (3:10:57 PM) NinjaStyle: lol
- (3:11:06 PM) spicyadmin: >you will never ever not be ashamed of something you thought was correct in the past
- (3:11:07 PM) PSPM|13fca: killdash9, him and that other 15 year old should get together
- (3:11:07 PM) redrighthand: killdash9: you will be dead from the iBrain device failure holocaust
- (3:11:08 PM) spicyadmin: the ultimate red pill
- (3:11:11 PM) PSPM|13fca: jamesl or something
- (3:11:21 PM) luketheduke1: psh. In 20 years, EVERYONE will use linex
- (3:11:21 PM) redrighthand: while my GPLv7 brain interface will not root me
- (3:11:24 PM) abakedapplepie: killdash9 you old man, you wont even be here in 20 years
- (3:11:32 PM) PSPM|13fca: "redrighthand> killdash9: you will be dead from the iBrain device failure holocaust" oh my fuck AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
- (3:11:34 PM) albii is now known as kritty
- (3:11:38 PM) outside: luketheduke1: I have linex in the bed of my truck
- (3:11:38 PM) NinjaStyle: give it a fucking rest, dont you have homework to do or minecraft or something redrighthand ?
- (3:11:48 PM) abakedapplepie: we will be pouring one out on the datacenter floor where your ashes were spread
- (3:11:54 PM) rrasco: PSPM|13fca, i bet that one went over killer in his english class
- (3:11:57 PM) luketheduke1: outside, what is it? raspberry pie?
- (3:12:11 PM) PSPM|13fca: rrasco, dude i legit had to hold in a laugh for that one
- (3:12:13 PM) outside: luketheduke1: it's bedliner.
- (3:12:26 PM) luketheduke1: outside, I've never heard of that computer
- (3:12:35 PM) outside: http://linex.com/
- (3:12:43 PM) killdash9: abakedapplepie: I hope I'm dead if the world is going to closed minded kids like redrighthand
- (3:12:47 PM) NinjaStyle: wuts a lenix anyways? and air conditioner?
- (3:13:01 PM) luketheduke1: NinjaStyle, it's an open source OS
- (3:13:07 PM) alazare619: stallman is just a basketcase
- (3:13:07 PM) luketheduke1: like windaws
- (3:13:09 PM) NinjaStyle: space heater?
- (3:13:12 PM) [muze] [~muze]@162.216.46.77] entered the room.
- (3:13:18 PM) alazare619: plain and simple a basket case
- (3:13:21 PM) outside: I was half serious - I bought the truck with the bedliner in it already, I don't know if it is line-x or a different product
- (3:13:27 PM) redrighthand: In all seriousness, the conversation about the role of sysadmins as gatekeepers of user freedom is an important one that shouldn't be ridiculed. Mark my words, the licensing debates of the 80s and 90s, inlcuding the cryptowars, were but a prelude to the totalitarian distopia they are going to try to unleash.
- (3:13:35 PM) luketheduke1: lol
- (3:13:39 PM) NinjaStyle: ha
- (3:13:40 PM) PSPM|13fca: omg stop please
- (3:13:41 PM) ***redrighthand out
- (3:13:42 PM) PSPM|13fca: my sides
- (3:13:44 PM) redrighthand left the room (quit: Read error: Connection reset by peer).
- (3:13:45 PM) PSPM|13fca: i can only take so much
- (3:13:46 PM) NinjaStyle: god
- (3:13:48 PM) ***killdash9 wonders where he copy/pasted that from
- (3:13:49 PM) NinjaStyle: haha
- (3:13:50 PM) darkscrypt: redoctet: i literally just laughed out loud
- (3:13:50 PM) PSPM|13fca: redrighthand out
- (3:13:52 PM) PSPM|13fca: AHAHAHAAHHAAHAHAHHA
- (3:13:56 PM) abakedapplepie: man what a beautiful troll
- (3:13:58 PM) outside: redr who is 'they'?
- (3:13:58 PM) darkscrypt: wait.
- (3:14:01 PM) abakedapplepie: that was some grade a entertainment
- (3:14:03 PM) PSPM|13fca: one for the ages
- (3:14:04 PM) viro left the room (quit: Ping timeout: 252 seconds).
- (3:14:06 PM) darkscrypt: what happened to red.
- (3:14:08 PM) rrasco: systemctl stop redrighthand
- (3:14:10 PM) darkscrypt: did somebody ddos him?
- (3:14:11 PM) B_RAD left the room (quit: Quit: Leaving).
- (3:14:11 PM) luketheduke1: he went out
- (3:14:14 PM) PSPM|13fca: darkscrypt, ./micdrop.py
- (3:14:23 PM) NinjaStyle: he mic dropped us so hard
- (3:14:23 PM) redrighthand [~user@unaffiliated/redrighthand] entered the room.
- (3:14:27 PM) abakedapplepie: oh shit
- (3:14:28 PM) abakedapplepie: that was fast
- (3:14:28 PM) PSPM|13fca: AHAHAHAHA
- (3:14:28 PM) NinjaStyle: fuck
- (3:14:29 PM) PSPM|13fca: PLEASE
- (3:14:30 PM) redrighthand: Oh and the cern sacrifice was real
- (3:14:30 PM) PSPM|13fca: STOP
- (3:14:32 PM) PSPM|13fca: MY SIDES
- (3:14:33 PM) outside: he's still on, just not here
- (3:14:34 PM) redrighthand left the room (quit: Read error: Connection reset by peer).
- (3:14:42 PM) darkscrypt: is somebody ddosing him?
- (3:14:47 PM) abakedapplepie: no
- (3:14:53 PM) NinjaStyle: lets do
- (3:14:54 PM) rrasco: FML:
- (3:14:55 PM) rrasco: Available Balance
- (3:14:55 PM) rrasco: $5.30
- (3:14:58 PM) rrasco: whoops
- (3:15:04 PM) squiggly12: rrasco: you're broke
- (3:15:07 PM) luketheduke1: is that your ddos account balance?
- (3:15:17 PM) rrasco: someone ddos my bank while i go buy beer
- (3:15:18 PM) PSPM|13fca: please tell me there's a logger bot in here
- (3:15:20 PM) outside: Funny story, my truck has windows *and* line-x *at the same time)
- (3:15:21 PM) PSPM|13fca: and that they got all that
- (3:15:25 PM) squiggly12: i'll buy you a beer rrasco
- (3:15:26 PM) rrasco: PSPM|13fca, we're all logging :D
- (3:15:27 PM) squiggly12: you need one
- (3:15:40 PM) darkscrypt: i actually have to go home, and i'm dreading it
- (3:15:41 PM) rrasco: i got some at home actually, and i have my pending direct deposit thank god
- (3:15:47 PM) squiggly12: PSPM|13fca: all my logs are stored into the butt
- (3:15:58 PM) PSPM|13fca: rrasco, i'd love to pull his email and send it to him in 6-7 years
- (3:15:59 PM) NinjaStyle: i keep all my money in my matress
- (3:16:13 PM) NinjaStyle: away from the windows bank holcausts
- (3:16:13 PM) PSPM|13fca: squiggly12, buut... i poop from there
- (3:16:14 PM) killdash9: did he leave?
- (3:16:14 PM) spicyadmin: i thank my god every day for my father
- (3:16:18 PM) rrasco: PSPM|13fca, high schoolers telling us about the practicality of best practices
- (3:16:18 PM) spicyadmin: who taught me to be anonymous online
- (3:16:22 PM) PSPM|13fca: killdash9, ./micdrop.py
- (3:16:31 PM) PSPM|13fca: * redrighthand out
- (3:16:31 PM) spicyadmin: because you can't track all the stupid bullshit i've said back to me
- (3:16:33 PM) alazare619: richardm1tallman wont use a bank unless they use a GPL FOSS framework for the website
- (3:16:35 PM) luketheduke1: spicyadmin, I know where you live
- (3:16:50 PM) spicyadmin: i mean as a youngling
- (3:16:54 PM) AudaciousTUX [~Audacious@unaffiliated/audacioustux] entered the room.
- (3:17:03 PM) luketheduke1: lol
- (3:17:06 PM) PSPM|13fca: spicyadmin, first lesson my dad ever gave me
- (3:17:06 PM) NinjaStyle: all my money is bitcoins
- (3:17:10 PM) squiggly12: rrasco: dinner? https://i.reddituploads.com/c522ade1ad484431b1ada012863d3806?fit=max&h=1536&w=1536&s=0c1368b4c25f0e03401aa56a1b6330ae
- (3:17:11 PM) PSPM|13fca: use fake info for everything
- (3:17:12 PM) sam325 left the room (quit: Ping timeout: 240 seconds).
- (3:17:14 PM) rrasco: s/bitcoins/ecoins
- (3:17:14 PM) spicyadmin: yep
- (3:17:14 PM) layer-8: Correction, <NinjaStyle> all my money is ecoins
- (3:17:19 PM) luketheduke1: I definitely don't regret deleting my facebook
- (3:17:20 PM) spicyadmin: it was such a weird shift too
- (3:17:31 PM) spicyadmin: luketheduke1, i went back through my timeline and manually deleted everything ever
- (3:17:33 PM) rrasco: squiggly12, nah salmon broccoli and potatos
- (3:17:36 PM) AudaciousTUX left the room (quit: Max SendQ exceeded).
- (3:17:42 PM) spicyadmin: it felt like all of a sudden everyone went from being anonymous online
- (3:17:44 PM) darkscrypt: i like having facebook.
- (3:17:48 PM) spicyadmin: to "use your real name online or you're a troll!"
- (3:18:03 PM) luketheduke1: spicyadmin, it's what our corporate overlords wanted
- (3:18:04 PM) darkscrypt: i keep myself easily doxxable.
- (3:18:05 PM) AudaciousTUX [~Audacious@unaffiliated/audacioustux] entered the room.
- (3:18:13 PM) darkscrypt: i blog under my real name. etc.
- (3:18:28 PM) HappyLoaf left the room (quit: Ping timeout: 255 seconds).
- (3:18:50 PM) darkscrypt: so it looks like redrighthand is actually gone.
- (3:18:51 PM) PSPM|13fca: you know what, that redrighthand kid reminds me of a few kids when i was in hs
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