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  1. Monday, January 15, 2018
  2. Saturday, January 13, 2018
  3. [16:00:46] Godofdeath_ I know
  4. [16:01:13] Godofdeath_ It has some of its own artwork
  5. [16:02:24] Godofdeath_ This feeling deep down inside me...what is it?
  6. [16:02:42] @cost anticipation?
  7. [16:03:10] Godofdeath_ No, it feels more like...longing
  8. [16:03:48] @cost it's a good feeling to have, and requite
  9. [16:04:43] Godofdeath_ Like damn it, this is what I learned Japanese for...
  10. [16:04:54] @cost :D
  11. [16:05:29] Godofdeath_ For times like these...and yet I can't use my hard earned skills...
  12. [16:05:46] Godofdeath_ So many feelings welling up inside of me
  13. Sunday, January 14, 2018
  14. [00:34:03] LastReaction Huh?
  15. [00:36:22] LastReaction What?
  16. [00:36:43] @cost just our drama queen bemoaning the wait for a LN to be published
  17. [00:37:14] LastReaction -_-
  18. [00:53:46] LastReaction What's the status on Violet Evergarden? Belphegor did you get any chance to look at the signs?
  19. [01:02:14] Godofdeath_ Imagine spending years honing your skills on computers and such, then one day you suddenly discover that computer technology went extinct.
  20. [01:03:00] @cost I'd recreate it
  21. [01:04:17] Godofdeath_ I'm sure you were shuddering just a moment ago
  22. [01:04:31] @cost actually, it energized me
  23. [01:04:42] Godofdeath_ trembling in disbelief and frustration
  24. [01:04:43] @cost that's a project worth my talents
  25. [01:06:07] Godofdeath_ To clarify, computer technology went extinct because the materials used in making such machines were no more
  26. [01:06:16] Godofdeath_ no lemons, no lemon juice
  27. [01:06:31] @cost I cannot conceive of such a world
  28. [01:06:42] Godofdeath_ ikr
  29. [01:06:56] @cost you can make computers out of nearly anything
  30. [01:07:07] @cost I can make a computer out of tonka toys
  31. [01:07:35] LastReaction You can make computers out of organic materials
  32. [01:07:39] LastReaction Quantum computing
  33. [01:07:53] @cost I could make a computer with proteins and dna
  34. [01:08:25] @cost I can make a computer with compressed air. How can all these things be missing?
  35. [01:09:03] Godofdeath_ Well then let's just use our imaginations and say the main components in creating a standard computer would be no more
  36. [01:09:17] @cost that just makes it more fun/challenging
  37. [01:09:27] @cost is this the emotion you meant to convey?
  38. [01:09:29] Godofdeath_ To you, maybe
  39. [01:09:41] Godofdeath_ But I'm sure to many people...
  40. [01:09:50] Godofdeath_ This would be a tragedy
  41. [01:09:54] Godofdeath_ not an opportunity
  42. [01:10:02] @cost ah, well, when you talk to me, talk to me.
  43. [01:10:16] @cost if you want devastation, try "Hillary was elected"
  44. [01:11:00] Godofdeath_ I'm sure people were devastated to find out she won't running again
  45. [01:11:04] Godofdeath_ or at least she says
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  56. [09:05:36] LastReaction Hey everyone
  57. [09:05:48] LastReaction cost I saw the changes you made to Violet Evergarden script, very nice :D
  58. [09:06:22] LastReaction I have one question though, I see that you used Lt. Colonel differently throughout the entire script
  59. [09:06:40] LastReaction Is it based on how its being used in the sentence?
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  61. [09:33:53] Godofdeath_ I noticed you added a few honorifics LR, but really they were used way more frequently than you think.
  62. [09:34:55] Godofdeath_ If there is a deadline on Violet Evergarden please let me know guys
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  67. [16:39:12] @cost LR, military titles should be capitalized when part of a formal name and not otherwise. Abbreviations should either affect the entire title, or none of it. That is, you shouldn't see lt. colonel or lieutenant col. Although it isn't an issue in Violet, subordinate and colleague addresses should include a title on first address only, and then only last name thereafter. So, a captain might call Corporal Blitz once and then only Blitz after that.
  68. [16:40:11] @cost naturally, insulting nicknames take precedence over official usage for close friends and enemies
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  70. [21:09:28] Rizon sets mode +qo Belphegor Belphegor
  71. [21:11:13] ~Belphegor 9:53:54 PM <@LastReaction> What's the status on Violet Evergarden? Belphegor did you get any chance to look at the signs? - Still hangoverish, will deal with them as soon as I eat something.
  72. Monday, January 15, 2018
  73. [00:28:46] LastReaction lol okay, hopefully you didn't get too drunk
  74. [00:30:49] LastReaction cost - I understand. As long as there is a meaning behind it, that's all that matters
  75. [00:30:58] LastReaction Makes sense to me
  76. [00:31:12] @cost former military, so all that cruft stuck
  77. [00:31:38] LastReaction There are still a few Lt. Colonel's in the script
  78. [00:31:49] LastReaction I thought I'd mention that since you said that's technically incorrect
  79. [00:31:52] @cost did I miss some?
  80. [00:31:56] LastReaction Yes
  81. [00:31:58] @cost hrm
  82. [00:32:00] LastReaction In the intro
  83. [00:32:06] LastReaction When they're in the infirmary
  84. [00:32:18] @cost unless I failed to update, I changed all those :(
  85. [00:32:45] LastReaction You updated it, since a good amount of it was indeed changed
  86. [00:32:52] LastReaction A few of them didn't stick I guess
  87. [00:33:22] @cost there were multiple save points. I'll have a look.
  88. [00:33:40] LastReaction Okay, I made some changes as well so pull
  89. [00:34:04] LastReaction Fixed some timing and applied some more line splits
  90. [00:47:18] LastReaction (~LR@nerf.this) left IRC (Quit: Be right back.)
  91. [01:21:38] ~Belphegor Posted by one of my buds on Discord: https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/265497024919502850/402033910164226049/FB_IMG_1515875192902.jpg
  92. [01:21:57] @cost 06/9? kek
  93. [01:22:07] ~Belphegor Mhm. :D
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  95. [02:42:29] Rizon sets mode +o LastReaction
  96. [02:47:40] ~Belphegor Finished TSing Violet, might find a better fonts tomorrow.
  97. [02:48:05] ~Belphegor I think had a few decent ones on my old PC. Should back them up somehow.
  98. [02:48:17] ~Belphegor And do some sorting.
  99. [02:49:45] ~Belphegor https://imagez.to/a/5cAxDH
  100. [02:50:27] ~Belphegor For a second, I thought those were resized, but apparently I forgot that my screen res is 1080p now.
  101. [02:52:00] LastReaction Nicely done :)
  102. [02:52:07] LastReaction Should we wait until tomorrow then?
  103. [02:55:05] ~Belphegor abi's logic:
  104. [02:55:18] ~Belphegor Adult: Yes / No
  105. [02:55:18] ~Belphegor Is this image Safe for Work?
  106. [02:55:44] ~Belphegor https://imagez.to/i/VaLGzX36.png
  107. [02:56:20] ~Belphegor Any other accents, try 'em out and see if they appear properly. If not, I'll look for another font.
  108. [02:57:36] ~Belphegor Added fonts and TS only script to the seedbox.
  109. [02:58:05] ~Belphegor 11:52:07 PM <@LastReaction> Should we wait until tomorrow then? - If you like current ones, then you don't need to wait for tomorrow. :p
  110. [03:02:02] ~Belphegor Anyway, bed time~ Good night. :)
  111. [03:07:31] LastReaction Good night!
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  116. [09:07:52] Godofdeath_ AyanamiSan how fares thine's TLC?
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  119. [11:53:27] @AyanamiSan I'll let you know when I do it, sorry
  120. [11:53:44] @AyanamiSan (that's why I don't usually TL/TLC - not enough time)
  121. [12:01:15] Godofdeath_ It's cool, I know we're all busy
  122. [13:18:38] @rickyhorror Golumpa, you around?
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  124. [14:41:54] @AyanamiSan https://twitter.com/domdorn/status/952134061211963392 lol :D some guy made pull request with "some UI issues fixes" to emacs :D
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  128. [15:36:40] Rizon sets mode +qo Belphegor Belphegor
  129. [15:45:01] ~Belphegor cost!
  130. [15:47:44] ~Belphegor jl91569 wanted to give encoding and QCing a try once upon a time.
  131. [15:47:52] ~Belphegor And has been waiting in our channel for a while.
  132. [15:48:08] ~Belphegor Maybe we could give him a chance with current show?
  133. [15:48:12] ~Belphegor LastReaction, what do you say?
  134. [15:49:01] LastReaction Which show, we're not encoding Violet Evergarden
  135. [15:49:16] ~Belphegor Eh?
  136. [15:49:41] ~Belphegor What's the source, then?
  137. [15:49:43] LastReaction Netflix
  138. [15:49:48] LastReaction RH is ripping from it
  139. [15:49:54] ~Belphegor Ah, direct rip.
  140. [15:49:56] ~Belphegor Gotcha.
  141. [15:49:57] LastReaction Yeah
  142. [15:50:01] LastReaction Netflix is already good quality
  143. [15:50:03] LastReaction No need to filter it
  144. [15:50:08] ~Belphegor Question, still stands, though.
  145. [15:50:15] LastReaction Sure, he can QC it
  146. [15:50:27] ~Belphegor Alright. I'll get him in.
  147. [15:50:33] LastReaction Encoding is something he has to learn on his own though
  148. [15:50:41] LastReaction I can give him resources but that's about it
  149. [15:50:49] ~Belphegor Alright.
  150. [15:55:58] ~Belphegor I'm not sure if I added him to invite list...
  151. [15:56:04] ~Belphegor Nothing's appearing on my end.
  152. [15:56:35] ~Belphegor If I remember correct, it's: /mode #SumireStaff +I jl91569!*@*
  153. [15:57:31] ~Belphegor Alright, back to typesetting right after I'm done with lunch.
  154. [16:03:08] ~Belphegor RIP Batoto. :/
  155. [16:16:34] LastReaction Batoto is dead?
  156. [16:16:35] LastReaction Sucks
  157. [16:16:42] LastReaction Madokami killed it probs
  158. [16:16:44] ~Belphegor Well, about to be.
  159. [16:16:49] ~Belphegor Nah.
  160. [16:16:59] ~Belphegor Owner doesn't want to maintain it anymore.
  161. [16:17:02] LastReaction In my eyes it did
  162. [16:17:16] LastReaction They actually have all the manga in English and not random fucking languages
  163. [16:17:46] ~Belphegor https://bato.to/forums/topic/28840-batoto-will-be-closing-permanently/
  164. [16:18:13] ~Belphegor They were a great support for scanlation groups in languages other than English.
  165. [16:18:34] LastReaction "despite the fact that we have fewer real visitors"
  166. [16:18:37] ~Belphegor With it gone, mado will be crowded with peeps.
  167. [16:18:42] LastReaction So Madokami is killing it
  168. [16:19:00] ~Belphegor Nope.
  169. [16:19:01] LastReaction and the time he's spending doesn't make sense
  170. [16:19:13] LastReaction That's basically what that forum post is saying
  171. [16:19:31] LastReaction Why waste all that time when no one is visiting the site anymore since there are better alternatives
  172. [16:20:48] ~Belphegor Sadly, bunch of sites were ripping from them and uploading to their sites.
  173. [16:20:52] ~Belphegor MangaFox and alike.
  174. [16:21:50] ~Belphegor As for better alternatives, well... not sure about other languages, but mado's awesome for English manga.
  175. [16:25:27] LastReaction I don't blame those other sites. Sometimes the chapters would be on Batoto for a while and then mysteriously vanish
  176. [16:25:42] LastReaction So after a certain point, people get fed up and start ripping from them
  177. [16:25:56] LastReaction Since they are not reliable
  178. [16:26:16] ~Belphegor Well, DMCA compliant.
  179. [16:26:24] ~Belphegor Yeah, I didn't like that either.
  180. [16:26:57] LastReaction Not many people did, which is why the site is dying
  181. [16:27:28] ~Belphegor Now, waiting for abi to buy it. :p
  182. [16:27:32] LastReaction lol
  183. [16:28:14] LastReaction I'm sure there are foreign manga sites like Madokami that we don't know of
  184. [16:28:24] ~Belphegor Probably.
  185. [16:28:43] ~Belphegor I found myself German anime db, with all anime groups mentioned.
  186. [16:28:51] ~Belphegor Which should prove useful when learning German.
  187. [16:29:28] ~Belphegor There's even Serbian fansub scene.
  188. [16:29:39] LastReaction :o
  189. [16:29:42] LastReaction That's pretty cool
  190. [16:29:46] ~Belphegor But my guys are still stuck with MP4 hardsubs.
  191. [16:29:48] ~Belphegor That sucks.
  192. [16:29:52] LastReaction lmao
  193. [16:29:54] LastReaction nvm
  194. [16:29:56] ~Belphegor :D
  195. [16:29:58] ~Belphegor hahahahaha
  196. [16:30:10] ~Belphegor They are just like French peeps. Hardsubbing everything.
  197. [16:30:17] ~Belphegor YOU WON'T STEAL MY SUBS!
  198. [16:30:47] LastReaction So dumb, who cares if people use your stuff
  199. [16:30:49] LastReaction You should be proud
  200. [16:31:00] ~Belphegor Yeah, they deemed it worthy.
  201. [16:31:16] ~Belphegor Sucks when others pay for it, though.
  202. [16:31:23] ~Belphegor Like neko-raws and drama around it.
  203. [16:31:46] ~Belphegor Some random other languages groups used his raws, slapped subs onto them and made a profit out of it.
  204. [16:31:57] LastReaction neko-raws always in some drama
  205. [16:32:07] ~Belphegor Yeah...
  206. [16:32:30] LastReaction Welp. I haven't slept yet so I'm going to now
  207. [16:32:34] LastReaction xD
  208. [16:32:34] ~Belphegor heh
  209. [16:32:36] ~Belphegor RIP
  210. [16:32:40] ~Belphegor And good night. :D
  211. [16:32:48] LastReaction I put the signs in the script for Violet Evergarden 01
  212. [16:32:51] LastReaction its on the Git
  213. [16:32:53] ~Belphegor Alright.
  214. [16:32:57] ~Belphegor Ah.
  215. [16:32:59] LastReaction I'll put it on the seedbox too
  216. [16:33:04] ~Belphegor Forgot to set up git on new lappy.
  217. [16:33:19] LastReaction I had to change the base dialogue styling
  218. [16:33:28] ~Belphegor Border as well? :p
  219. [16:33:47] LastReaction No
  220. [16:33:48] ~Belphegor Should have made it to match the character's hair.
  221. [16:33:52] LastReaction Just the font
  222. [16:33:57] ~Belphegor Those were the days.
  223. [16:33:59] ~Belphegor Annoying days.
  224. [16:34:01] LastReaction lol
  225. [16:34:07] ~Belphegor Goddamn KAA eye cancers.
  226. [16:34:25] LastReaction Yeah we're NOT doing that garbage
  227. [16:34:32] LastReaction I thought the colors looked pretty good
  228. [16:34:38] ~Belphegor I mean, blue font with white border is awesome.
  229. [16:34:52] ~Belphegor Readable as... yeah, not readable.
  230. [16:35:07] ~Belphegor As for our dialogue styling, I didn't have the font. :p
  231. [16:35:27] LastReaction Its on the seedbox now
  232. [16:35:34] ~Belphegor o7
  233. [16:36:10] ~Belphegor Alright, go sleep.
  234. [16:36:13] ~Belphegor I'll go do my stuff.
  235. [16:36:21] ~Belphegor And turn on manga downloader while I'm at it.
  236. [16:36:40] ~Belphegor I have enough manga to last me for 5 years.
  237. [16:36:56] LastReaction lol damn
  238. [16:37:14] LastReaction Hopefully we're faster with EP02, we're almost a week delayed already
  239. [16:37:25] LastReaction Oh well. Good night o/
  240. [16:37:30] ~Belphegor Yeah, I'll get the TS done for it.
  241. [16:37:36] ~Belphegor Shouldn't be much out there.
  242. [16:37:52] ~Belphegor Good night. ^^
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  245. [16:56:42] Rizon sets mode +o SeraphSephiroth
  246. [17:51:13] @cost mado isn't so solid that I'm comfortable losing batoto. It's sad.
  247. [18:36:10] ~Belphegor Hopefully, new one will arise.
  248. [18:36:27] ~Belphegor He did share all the data and stuff with his staff members.
  249. [18:37:00] @cost maybe someone is motivated enough - batoto was a lot more approachable than mado is
  250. [21:23:09] +Golumpa rickyhorror
  251. [21:23:39] ~Belphegor Golumpa
  252. [21:23:50] ~Belphegor :p
  253. [21:26:11] +Golumpa ;)
  254. [21:29:52] Godofdeath_ In the end I couldn't find a scan of the Berserk novel online
  255. [21:30:01] Godofdeath_ Guess I have no choice but to buy...
  256. [21:30:11] @cost be sure to scanlate it
  257. [21:30:56] Godofdeath_ That's so much work...
  258. [21:31:16] @cost well, at least the raws then
  259. [21:31:32] @cost let the scanlators grab it
  260. [21:32:06] Godofdeath_ lightbulb pings above head
  261. [21:32:22] Godofdeath_ I think I know a guy who knows a guy that has it!
  262. [21:32:28] @cost :D
  263. [21:32:53] Godofdeath_ I'll call 'em right now
  264. [22:10:45] Godofdeath_ raises fist
  265. [22:10:53] Godofdeath_ All right I'm gonna get the book
  266. [00:39:17] Belphegor (~uid152478@The.Sloth) left IRC (Quit: Connection closed for inactivity)
  267. Tuesday, January 16, 2018
  268. [01:13:46] LastReaction Hey guys
  269. [01:14:24] LastReaction cost - did you get a chance to look at Violet Evergarden script again? That Lt. Col. fix is the only thing that needs to be done and then its ready for QC and release
  270. [01:16:48] Godofdeath_ So are we still doing honorifics?
  271. [01:17:42] Godofdeath_ I'm going to do one final review, so let me know soon.
  272. [01:23:16] LastReaction We're doing honorifics and no honorifics
  273. [01:24:24] @Kuromii Kuromii's two script idea is catching on ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
  274. [01:24:36] LastReaction Its a good idea lol
  275. [01:24:57] LastReaction I kind of want to get Violet out before episode 2 comes out because, you know
  276. [01:25:08] LastReaction It just makes sense lol
  277. [01:25:17] LastReaction We're already late as hell
  278. [01:25:21] Godofdeath_ Can I add the honorifics for the first script, then you guys take it out for the second script?
  279. [01:25:44] LastReaction The honorifics are already added
  280. [01:26:05] Godofdeath_ I don't know if you got all of them, I'll have to check
  281. [01:26:17] LastReaction There was one that wasn't added because I don't really know what "danda-sama" would translate to
  282. [01:26:22] LastReaction So I left it as "Sir."
  283. [01:26:38] LastReaction Nah I didn't miss any, trust me lol
  284. [01:26:41] LastReaction I checked it like 6 times
  285. [01:26:52] Godofdeath_ Wow
  286. [01:26:54] LastReaction That's the only one I left
  287. [01:27:12] Godofdeath_ Well I guess you made my work easier
  288. [01:27:27] LastReaction lol the next one you can add honorifics yourself
  289. [01:27:42] LastReaction and we'll remove them using CTRL-H
  290. [01:28:10] Godofdeath_ There's a command that'll automatically remove the honorifics?
  291. [01:28:16] LastReaction Yeah
  292. [01:28:23] LastReaction You just use Find & Replace
  293. [01:28:33] Godofdeath_ Fantastic
  294. [02:19:04] LastReaction I fixed the Lt. Colonel fixes myself
  295. [02:19:19] LastReaction Since cost is in an emergency situation
  296. [02:21:38] LastReaction So Godofdeath, you can either grab the files from the git, or from the seedbox
  297. [02:21:39] LastReaction Your choice
  298. [02:22:33] LastReaction Since you said you were going to do a final check
  299. [02:22:41] LastReaction Let me know when you're done
  300. [02:22:52] Godofdeath_ Way ahead of you, I've been in the middle of checking it.
  301. [02:22:55] Godofdeath_ alright
  302. [02:24:14] LastReaction Make sure to make your own branch if you're going to make any changes on the git please
  303. [02:24:30] Godofdeath_ roger
  304. [02:24:38] LastReaction Since I recently applied some fixes and don't want them to be overwritten just in case you have an older copy of the subs
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  306. [04:41:14] Godofdeath_ And I'm done
  307. [04:41:42] Godofdeath_ And you just disconnected
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  309. [07:52:44] Rizon sets mode +o LastReaction
  310. [08:06:20] LastReaction "{She says "tabemasu" which means "I'm going to eat" but she says it as if she's taking orders. Therfore "Yes, sir" is best.}"
  311. [08:06:35] LastReaction So then we're keeping it as "I'm going to eat." then lol
  312. [08:06:53] LastReaction Because that's literally what she's saying
  313. [08:11:15] LastReaction Most of the changes you've made, I put in the final script. Some of it wasn't really necessary
  314. [08:11:25] LastReaction Like some punctuation changes, for example
  315. [08:12:19] LastReaction and the "tabemasu" line. I feel like there was no need to change the entire meaning of what she's saying, since its already been translated properly.
  316. [08:18:22] LastReaction I think the script is ready for release!
  317. [08:42:09] Godofdeath_ In Japanese what you say and what you mean can be different
  318. [08:42:21] Godofdeath_ Leave the translation to me
  319. [08:42:32] Godofdeath_ they even dubbed it "Yes, sir"
  320. [08:42:52] Godofdeath_ Because she speaks as if she's taking an order
  321. [08:43:18] Godofdeath_ Literal translations are not natural 100% of the time you knoe
  322. [08:51:35] Godofdeath_ It's best to keep it simply "Yes, sir."
  323. [09:26:32] LastReaction Well its not being changed
  324. [09:26:36] LastReaction I dont see the point in changing it
  325. [09:27:34] Godofdeath_ "I'm going to eat" does not express her intentions
  326. [09:27:41] Godofdeath_ it is unnatural
  327. [09:29:02] Godofdeath_ I didn't leave an explanation next to this change so it could become a point of debate
  328. [09:29:18] Godofdeath_ I left it so we could avoid any confusion
  329. [09:31:56] Godofdeath_ There's a reason why I'm the TLC and you're not
  330. [09:32:32] Godofdeath_ You don't "see the point" because you don't speak Japanese
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  333. [10:28:22] LastReaction Its not getting changed man
  334. [10:28:26] LastReaction That's it
  335. [10:28:40] LastReaction I added almost all of your other TLCs
  336. [10:29:10] LastReaction And of course its unnatural, her entire demeanor is unnatural
  337. [10:29:18] LastReaction She is not used to living a normal life
  338. [10:29:31] LastReaction and her saying "I'm going to eat" shows that
  339. [10:30:23] LastReaction You need to learn when to take criticism, you did a great job but we're not going to take everything you say as 100% fact and the end all be all solution
  340. [10:30:37] LastReaction That's not how being in a fansub group works lol
  341. [10:31:12] +Golumpa Oh god
  342. [10:31:38] LastReaction 95% of the changes you made have been kept
  343. [10:32:47] LastReaction Its not like I trashed all of your work and said its bad, but that is how you're acting right now
  344. [10:36:41] LastReaction Violet was basically not even a human, she was a weapon. So that whole "its not natural" thing makes perfect sense for her
  345. [10:36:57] LastReaction Because she was never treated as a human
  346. [10:37:19] LastReaction So her saying weird things like that fits with her character
  347. [10:47:41] +Golumpa i cant say much about it as i haven't watched it yet but also take into consideration the tone of voice.
  348. [10:48:48] +Golumpa i consider a "yes, sir" to be spoken well mannered and proper
  349. [10:49:00] +Golumpa what time is this at?
  350. [10:53:18] +Golumpa LastReaction I have to say after watching some of the episode i personally think "Yes, Sir" might fit a bit better...
  351. [10:53:29] +Golumpa just becasue most of her awnsers are short and to the point
  352. [10:53:52] +Golumpa "Yes, Sir" is more straight forward and to the point that "Im going to eat"
  353. [10:53:57] +Golumpa but thats just my opinion
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  357. [11:10:43] +Dragoncb234 hey Golumpa
  358. [11:10:47] +Dragoncb234 do u know HTML?
  359. [11:11:01] +Golumpa yes but im going to work in like 15 mins
  360. [11:21:58] +Dragoncb234 nvm figured it out
  361. [11:43:47] Godofdeath_ Once again, you have missed the point entirely. I’m speaking about her “intentions”. She was told to eat, she then replies “I’m going to eat” (in Japanese) to show her compliance and obedience. In English this would naturally be “Yes, sir”.
  362. [11:43:51] Godofdeath_ The problem with simply saying “I’m going to eat” in English is that it does not express the intention of the character (or the writer), therefore it is a faulty translation.
  363. [11:44:13] Godofdeath_ wait he disconnected
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  366. [11:48:55] LastReaction Golumpa - its not about fitting better though, its about translating from one language to another
  367. [11:49:18] LastReaction tabemasu does not translate to "Yes, sir." Not even remotely close
  368. [11:49:26] Godofdeath_ Once again, you have missed the point entirely. I’m speaking about her “intentions”. She was told to eat, she then replies “I’m going to eat” (in Japanese) to show her compliance and obedience. In English this would naturally be “Yes, sir”. The problem with simply saying “I’m going to eat” in English is that it does not express the intention of the character (or the writer), therefore it is a faulty
  369. [11:49:26] Godofdeath_ translation. Not to mention, “tabemasu” is the polite form, so there’s literally no way to get the literal translation, if that was what you were hoping for.
  370. [11:49:57] LastReaction You want to see an example of a fansub group that's already doing this anime, and what they chose?
  371. [11:50:06] LastReaction They have a translator that 100% translated it from scratch
  372. [11:50:13] LastReaction and they did not put "Yes, sir"
  373. [11:50:18] LastReaction Because its incorrect
  374. [11:50:32] Godofdeath_ Both I, and the translators for the dub, agree that “Yes, sir” is the appropriate translation. Forgive me for being blunt but, are you sure your fragmented knowledge in Japanese is enough to overrule our assessment?
  375. [11:50:44] LastReaction Asenshi has a Japanese translator.
  376. [11:51:09] Godofdeath_ I deem that translation inaccurate
  377. [11:51:32] Godofdeath_ You asked me to do the TLC, not someone from Asenshi
  378. [11:51:50] Godofdeath_ Again, to be blunt I know what I’m doing, I’m not pulling these translations out of my ass. I mentioned once before, if you think something seems off, ask or suggest, I honestly don’t mind. Assertions will get you nowhere.
  379. [11:52:07] Godofdeath_ You’re not suggesting or asking, once again you are asserting. At this point this isn’t a discussion, you’re simply saying “that’s that”.
  380. [11:52:41] Godofdeath_ No hard feelings but I can’t work like this. Do not put my name as the TLC on this project, we’ve worked hard on this script so you can use whatever work I put in, however I don’t want to be accredited to any faulty translations.
  381. [11:53:11] LastReaction Yeah, Asenshi has faulty translations with a Japanese translator
  382. [11:53:16] Godofdeath_ And lastly, you’re standing here asserting on what you “think”, verses what I “know”. It’s not that I’m not handling criticism, I know for a fact that “I’m going to eat” is a faulty translation. I don’t know how to put this nicely, LastReaction you’re not a fellow translator like AyanamiSan or Kuromii, your fragmented knowledge in Japanese does not qualify you to critique. It’s not “teamwork” if
  383. [11:53:16] Godofdeath_ you don’t know what you’re doing. You can make as many changes to the lines as you want, so long as it doesn’t contradict the Japanese.
  384. [11:53:37] LastReaction Dude. Just quit.
  385. [11:53:44] LastReaction You can't take criticism
  386. [11:53:58] LastReaction You're getting so uptight over something so simple
  387. [11:55:24] LastReaction This is the second time this has happened and you've only been here for a few weeks
  388. [11:55:39] LastReaction I asked politely for someone else to check Dragon Cry, and you took that as an insult
  389. [11:55:54] Godofdeath_ I've said all that I've had to say, I won't be a part of this project if your guessialtions are going to overrule my translations.
  390. [11:56:00] Godofdeath_ Oh god...
  391. [11:56:01] LastReaction Its not a guesslation
  392. [11:56:04] LastReaction You said it yourself!
  393. [11:56:08] LastReaction in the comment!
  394. [11:56:10] LastReaction LOL
  395. [11:56:20] Godofdeath_ I didn't say no one TLC Fairy Tail
  396. [11:56:25] LastReaction {She says "tabemasu" which means "I'm going to eat" but she says it as if she's taking orders. Therfore "Yes, sir" is best.}
  397. [11:56:36] LastReaction You literally said what it means
  398. [11:56:45] Godofdeath_ ...
  399. [11:56:52] LastReaction So its not a guesslation
  400. [11:57:09] LastReaction Once again, you are blowing it out of proportion, and are now lying blatantly
  401. [11:57:27] LastReaction So just leave dude. If you're going to be this toxic
  402. [11:57:28] Godofdeath_ Lying?
  403. [11:57:31] LastReaction I do not want to work with you
  404. [11:57:43] LastReaction I've never had this problem with anyone else in here
  405. [11:57:45] LastReaction Until you joined
  406. [11:57:47] Godofdeath_ You have no idea what you're talking about
  407. [11:57:56] Godofdeath_ Listen
  408. [11:57:58] LastReaction Nope, I don't
  409. [11:58:04] LastReaction Nah I know nothing
  410. [11:58:28] Godofdeath_ I'm not arguing with you anymore, I'm going to settle this a fellow translator here
  411. [11:59:07] LastReaction Godofdeath_ you're acting as if I literally deleted all of your TLC and said its bad
  412. [11:59:10] LastReaction You realize that right?
  413. [11:59:37] LastReaction You're being extremely immature about the situation
  414. [12:00:00] LastReaction I even complimented your work, numerous times
  415. [12:00:18] LastReaction and you continue to belittle me because I said we're leaving one thing in, that isn't even meaningful to the episode
  416. [12:01:01] LastReaction Because you stated in your own comment, what the translation is, and the line is already there
  417. [12:01:14] LastReaction and on top of that, it was put in by the Netflix translators themselves
  418. [12:01:56] Godofdeath_ Settle down LR, talking will get us nowhere. I'm going to have a fellow translator here review my work. Once that's done, then we'll talk.
  419. [12:02:25] Godofdeath_ Don't you agree?
  420. [12:02:38] LastReaction I've already checked with numerous translations of the same episode
  421. [12:02:41] LastReaction Asenshi is one
  422. [12:02:45] LastReaction You're one
  423. [12:02:47] LastReaction and Netflix is one
  424. [12:03:06] Godofdeath_ Is there something wrong with our TLs here?
  425. [12:03:27] Godofdeath_ Do you doubt their abilities as well?
  426. [12:03:54] LastReaction I do ask questions very often, yes
  427. [12:04:07] LastReaction Sometimes I'm right, sometimes I'm not.
  428. [12:04:16] LastReaction I'm wrong*
  429. [12:04:27] Godofdeath_ Questions or assertions? You can only be right or wrong with questions.
  430. [12:04:37] LastReaction But in this case, you even confirmed that tabemasu means "I'm going to eat."
  431. [12:05:04] Godofdeath_ The literal translation does not convery her intentions
  432. [12:05:13] LastReaction Yes it does lol, she is not used to living a normal life.
  433. [12:05:15] Godofdeath_ I've said ad nauseam
  434. [12:05:18] Godofdeath_ this
  435. [12:05:26] Godofdeath_ No it doesn't
  436. [12:05:31] Godofdeath_ You are wrong
  437. [12:05:36] LastReaction So Netflix is wrong too
  438. [12:05:45] Godofdeath_ They've been wrong before
  439. [12:06:00] Godofdeath_ See their script on Fairy Tail
  440. [12:06:10] Godofdeath_ It's riddled with mistakes
  441. [12:07:00] Godofdeath_ Unlike you, I can see mistakes in subtitles BECAUSE I know Japanese. Can you say the same? I bet not.
  442. [12:09:05] LastReaction I wonder how long we'd last if I got this upset because someone criticized my work
  443. [12:09:35] LastReaction This is the 2nd time this has happened
  444. [12:09:41] Godofdeath_ You know what's odd? A guy who doesn't know Japanese debating with a translator. You're not asking, making suggestions, you're legit debating.
  445. [12:09:43] LastReaction and you've only been here for a few weeks
  446. [12:09:43] @AyanamiSan LastReaction: but this is clearly your fault here (again)
  447. [12:09:50] @AyanamiSan sorry but I have to point this out
  448. [12:09:57] @AyanamiSan since you're NOT the TL nor TLC
  449. [12:10:00] Godofdeath_ PREECH
  450. [12:10:01] @AyanamiSan so don't try to be one.
  451. [12:10:15] LastReaction Okay, well at that point, I quit
  452. [12:10:21] Godofdeath_ wow
  453. [12:10:33] @AyanamiSan If you can't keep yourself from comparing japanese lines to the script, QC w/o audio
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  455. [12:11:14] Godofdeath_ Am I the only one who finds this strange??
  456. [12:11:49] @AyanamiSan 15:53:23 <+Golumpa> LastReaction I have to say after watching some of the episode i personally think "Yes, Sir" might fit a bit better...
  457. [12:12:18] @AyanamiSan I haven't seen the scene, but I can imagine it from the discussion, and "I'm going to eat" definitely doesn't fit imho
  458. [12:12:59] Godofdeath_ LastReaction is superb at what he does, but sometimes he crosses his boundary.
  459. [12:13:24] Godofdeath_ Has he always been like this?
  460. [12:13:24] @AyanamiSan I know, I worked with him for quite some time now :)
  461. [12:13:29] Godofdeath_ ...
  462. [12:16:17] Godofdeath_ You've worked with him for a long time huh...
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  468. [15:50:21] +Golumpa Yeah most of what i saw her say were simple responses to commands
  469. [15:50:29] +Golumpa Like “Understood”
  470. [15:50:54] +Golumpa So to just change to saying “I will eat now” just doesn’t fit in
  471. [15:58:59] @AyanamiSan eh, lastreaction doesn't like to be pointed out to be wrong...
  472. [15:59:34] @AyanamiSan he requires others to accept critique, but he can't accept one himself
  473. [16:03:40] +Golumpa Heh
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  485. [19:56:19] Rizon sets mode +qo Belphegor Belphegor
  486. [19:59:07] Belphegor 'Evening, peeps. ^^
  487. [19:59:43] cost lo deth
  488. [20:00:20] Belphegor lo cost.
  489. [20:00:35] Belphegor How's uncle doing?
  490. [20:00:50] cost causing problems in the ER, so, better
  491. [20:04:12] Belphegor I see. :/
  492. [20:04:16] Belphegor Hope it all goes well.
  493. [20:04:24] Belphegor How are you holding up?
  494. [20:04:33] cost sleepless for the most part
  495. [20:05:09] cost energizing this morning on Mountain Dew and coffee-toffee
  496. [20:07:31] Belphegor heh
  497. [20:07:42] Belphegor Well, don't strain yourself too much. Get some proper rest.
  498. [20:07:58] cost duty is heavier than a mountain
  499. [20:09:06] Golumpa You dont want to make yourself ill aswell.
  500. [20:09:21] Belphegor Yep.
  501. [20:09:34] cost fortunately, my family is extremely healthy - I almost never get sick
  502. [20:10:02] cost even uncle, with all his maladies caused by agent orange exposure, is amazingly hearty
  503. [20:10:28] Belphegor Yeah, I figured out that myself when I was poisoned by mushrooms. But still, I'd like to avoid anything harmful if possible. :/
  504. [20:10:59] cost there's a life lesson there. Eat moar chili.
  505. [20:11:24] Belphegor I wonder if they are that healthy.
  506. [20:11:33] Belphegor Only thing I eat every day is honey.
  507. [20:11:44] cost nothing wrong with honey
  508. [20:15:55] Belphegor Indeed. :)
  509. [22:17:06] Topic is Discord: https://discord.gg/psyhwxj | https://www.uw0.xyz/ | Virgin Soul: Deth93 (TS: 24), cost (Timing: 17), LR: (Timing: 22-24) | EP 18-21 need TLC/QC/Edit/whatnot.
  510. [22:17:06] Set by Belphegor on November 28, 2017 at 3:05:43 AM GMT+4
  511. [22:17:07] Mode is +inpstz
  512. [22:31:04] AyanamiSan Just to be entirely sure, watched Violet Evergarden ep1, and personally I'd go with simple "Yes." there, or something like that. Definitely literal translation wouldn't fit, must be something short, affirmative. For me it felt like a simpler, shorter replacement of "itadakimasu"
  513. [22:32:32] AyanamiSan (watched it raw, so I can't compare with anything beside what was discussed on irc in regards to translation)
  514. [22:45:32] Godofdeath_ Exactly, something affirmative.
  515. [22:47:21] Godofdeath_ Something to show how she thinks she's taking an order
  516. Wednesday, January 17, 2018
  517. [02:09:52] Belphegor hehe
  518. [02:13:27] Belphegor As my bud said: Reisearch, not Asukasearch. Well done indeed.
  519. [03:25:27] Godofdeath_ I just feel like I have to say this.
  520. [03:26:01] Godofdeath_ You know, I haven’t even been here for 2 months and I’ve always tried to get my work done as fast as possible, with as little trouble as possible. I’m no narcissist lost in illusions of grandeur, I understand that I’m capable of making mistakes.
  521. [03:27:27] Godofdeath_ Contrary to what it may look, my skirmish with LastReaction wasn’t because he was criticizing my translation, it was because he was trying to do my job as if he was the TLC. I don’t mind at all if any of you change completely the lines I translate, in general a lot of edits done to my lines are nothing short of gold, my only problem is when something contradicts the Japanese.
  522. [03:28:29] AyanamiSan ^-- I understand that, and that's why i stepped in
  523. [03:28:32] Godofdeath_ I’m saying this because I don’t want other members to hesitate asking, suggesting, or evendown right criticize my work, so long as there is a discussion, not an overruling. I’m a team player and I’m more than willing to work together with other members to create a damn good script.
  524. [03:29:56] AyanamiSan tbh I hope LR will come back, since he can understand what the problem is when he cools down, and engades in proper discussion
  525. [03:31:51] Godofdeath_ As audacious as he is, losing him is a lose
  526. [03:32:08] Godofdeath_ You think he'll come back?
  527. [03:32:15] AyanamiSan probably yes
  528. [03:32:44] Godofdeath_ loss*
  529. [03:33:48] Godofdeath_ I see, I wonder how long he'll be gone.
  530. [03:34:23] AyanamiSan don't know. but this was a simple ragequit, i doubt he'll leave it at that
  531. [03:35:21] Godofdeath_ ragequit xD.
  532. [03:35:25] Godofdeath_ Damn I never knew this word was in the dictionary
  533. [03:36:10] AyanamiSan I don't know if it is in a dictionary, but it's common on the internet :D
  534. [03:37:36] Godofdeath_ You know on mac you can search up words quickly by tapping 3 fingers over it https://youtu.be/aEhqkWWf0oM?t=46s
  535. [03:37:55] AyanamiSan I'm on windows right now :P
  536. [03:38:12] Godofdeath_ Like I just tapped this word and it was in the dictionary (as an "informal" word)
  537. [03:38:29] AyanamiSan well... technically in on cygwin (posix environment for windows) connecting to the linux server :D
  538. [03:39:04] AyanamiSan when I look up something in dictionary I usually use dictionary.com
  539. [03:40:21] AyanamiSan I made browser search keywords for all the dictionaries I use
  540. [03:40:37] AyanamiSan for example for dictionary.com i just type "dict something"
  541. [03:40:49] AyanamiSan and it searches on dictionary.com
  542. [03:41:03] AyanamiSan have similar keywords for wwwjdic, goo, and alc
  543. [03:42:07] Godofdeath_ Are you by any chance a logophile?
  544. [03:43:31] AyanamiSan logophile? let me check what it means :D
  545. [03:43:40] Godofdeath_ xD
  546. [03:43:48] AyanamiSan lol, no, not really
  547. [03:44:03] Godofdeath_ cuz I sure am
  548. [03:44:04] Godofdeath_ https://ibb.co/i1HMU6
  549. [03:44:04] AyanamiSan but I use english and japanese on a daily basis
  550. [03:44:13] AyanamiSan none of each is my native one
  551. [03:44:17] AyanamiSan *native language
  552. [03:44:38] AyanamiSan and at some level you won't learn anything by translating, so you need to check the definition of the words
  553. [03:44:41] Godofdeath_ What is your native langauge?
  554. [03:44:53] Godofdeath_ Yeah
  555. [03:45:09] AyanamiSan Polish; but I don't usually talk about it, so keep it to this channel
  556. [03:45:21] Godofdeath_ Wakarimashita
  557. [03:45:54] Godofdeath_ Yeah I speak a language other than English and Japanese
  558. [03:45:57] AyanamiSan (btw, it's really hard for me to read romaji (^。^;
  559. [03:45:57] Godofdeath_ Arabic
  560. [03:46:04] Godofdeath_ Really?
  561. [03:48:14] Godofdeath_ I see
  562. [03:48:17] AyanamiSan with romaji I have to read letter-by-letter, translate it to sounds, and then imagine kanji
  563. [03:48:40] Godofdeath_ Ohhh
  564. [03:49:16] AyanamiSan I only ever learned by myself, so most of my knowledge comes from reading actual japanese text
  565. [03:49:37] Godofdeath_ Ore mo onaji da
  566. [03:49:40] Godofdeath_ xD
  567. [03:49:49] AyanamiSan lol :D
  568. [03:50:13] Godofdeath_ How do input japanes again
  569. [03:50:29] Godofdeath_ you don't use romanji?
  570. [03:50:49] AyanamiSan each key of the alphanumeric keyboard is mapped to one kana character
  571. [03:51:24] Godofdeath_ I could never type like that...
  572. [03:51:25] AyanamiSan e.g. おはよう would be 6f94
  573. [03:51:38] AyanamiSan I'm a touch-typer, so learning this was easy
  574. [03:51:50] Godofdeath_ interesting
  575. [03:52:53] AyanamiSan alt+` switches between japanese and US keyboard layout, so it's also easy IMHO
  576. [03:54:06] Godofdeath_ With this keyboardm are you a fast typer in Japanese?
  577. [04:00:32] AyanamiSan not really, but I type faster in kana than in romaji
  578. [04:00:57] AyanamiSan but I don't know how fast'd I type if i learned romaji typing from the start
  579. [04:01:55] AyanamiSan anyway, time to sleep; cya all tomorrow
  580. [04:03:39] Godofdeath_ I see. Typing in romanji for me is just like tying in English.
  581. [04:03:45] Godofdeath_ Take care
  582. [04:22:11] rickyhorror (~rickyhorr@Neko.Overlord) left IRC (Read error: Connection reset by peer)
  583. [04:28:13] rickyhorror (~rickyhorr@Neko.Overlord) joined the channel
  584. [04:28:13] Rizon sets mode +o rickyhorror
  585. [06:00:51] Dragoncb234 (~Dragoncb2@9E03E6AA:8D1175EB:CC937D29:IP) left IRC (Quit: Leaving)
  586. Current Session
  587. [07:32:57] Mode is +inpstz
  588. Wednesday, January 17, 2018
  589. [09:19:59] Dragoncb234 (~Dragoncb2@9E03E6AA:8D1175EB:CC937D29:IP) joined the channel
  590. [09:19:59] Rizon sets mode +v Dragoncb234
  591. Wednesday, January 17, 2018
  592. [10:15:41] Belphegor (~uid152478@The.Sloth) joined the channel
  593. [10:15:41] Rizon sets mode +qo Belphegor Belphegor
  594. [10:36:24] ~Belphegor 'Morning. ^^
  595. [10:36:34] ~Belphegor What's the status on Violet Evergarden?
  596. [11:04:26] Godofdeath_ ~Belphegor It's almost complete, though with RL's recent ragequit whether we'll release it or not is a complicated story.
  597. [11:11:07] ~Belphegor I see...
  598. [11:11:32] ~Belphegor That may be why he got out of discord group as well. -_-
  599. [11:11:45] ~Belphegor Will check when I get back home.
  600. [11:12:09] ~Belphegor Logs of what happened would be nice if someone can provide.
  601. [11:15:48] Godofdeath_ How can I share it with you?
  602. [11:16:17] ~Belphegor Pastebin would be nice.
  603. [11:17:01] ~Belphegor I kinda skipped few lines up there, thought that you were simply talking about translation, Aya and you.
  604. Wednesday, January 17, 2018
  605. [11:17:16] ~Belphegor But I'm still missing whatever LR said.
  606. [04:03:45] Godofdeath_ Take care
  607. [11:17:16] ~Belphegor But I'm still missing whatever LR said.
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