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- oh shit mate
- i actually had a good college experience last night
- with more liberal minded people
- and me being more conservative but still more in the m
- we had this whole sexual assault thing
- and we went back to our clusters
- first we watched this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZwvrxVavnQ
- then they wanted to discuss with us what we thought (these were upper classmen btw)
- they asked what we thought about the statistics
- i mentioned that i would have liked that they at least show the sources on a slide or something at the end of what they did
- and they agreed, as well as other people in the cluster
- then we started talking about some of the stuff they did
- like acting out at a party
- both people are drunk, and they end up having sex at one of their houses
- in the scenario to stop it, the friends at the party would try to intervene
- and i said that was a poor example, a better example would be if she was wasted and he was sober or a little buzzed
- since they were also both excited and ready to fucc
- they agreed that there could have been a better example
- then at the end i spoke up about the no consent while drunk
- but also not everyone likes to be verbal
- nothing wrong with a few "do you like this"
- and you don't have to ask per se, but be forward, like i want you to take off your pants or something
- or can i take off your pants
- etc.
- or even saying i wanna fuck you
- which they used as an example
- as that's okay to say
- cause they can still say no thanks
- >but we can do this instead
- kek
- but also
- back on the consent while drunk
- is when our opinions clashed, but in a good way
- it was a completely open platform
- i was saying that if they're adult and mature enough to get drunk, then they should be able to deal with the consequences
- like as long as she wasn't blacked out or was saying no to sex while drunk
- then all she has is regret
- the people that did the thing did an example that the woman was out at a party, her friends left, she stayed cause she was having so much fun, got wasted, woke up the next morning with a guy in her bed
- and she was freaking out on the verge of tears
- and the cluster people mentioned that
- and i said that she made the conscious decision to get drunk
- and the other guy was drunk too
- she just regretted it afterward
- and a few people started to back me up, with one saying it's not a blanket
- the cluster leaders were iffy on that, saying that they still think it's not consent when they're drunk
- but then i say they made the decision to get drunk and should be able to handle the potential consequences
- and we're not saying there aren't any victims or not
- especially if both parties are drunk
- but they're saying that you don't make good decisions when you're drunk
- then i say it's a bad decision to get drunk so if they do that they should expect to make bad decisions
- then a girl chimed in saying that not trying to blame the victim, but there's things people can do to not put themselves in those situations
- and then we agreed with each other on some parts about this scenario and whatnot
- but we eventially agreed to disagree and that it was a gray area (my words)
- they agreed and thought it was a good time to move on since we already covered everything
- and another guy after said he was glad i spoke out (he backed me up on some things)
- at the very beginning i almost didn't, but i couldn't help myself
- it really was a good experience tbh
- was surprised how much of an open platform there was, and even though we disagreed on some things, we agreed on many others
- and they also agreed that the statistics might be wrong, maybe not exactly as much as they're saying, but we agreed that it's not the number, but the fact it happens is wrong
- and that's when we did some group games
- but yeah really positive experience
- really open platform
- no shutting down
- calm
- etc.
- people being open minded
- 10/10 experience
- and not everything in that sexual assault thing was bad, i actually like some things, and really enjoyed that they included that men can be raped and sexually assaulted
- and in one of their examples a man was raped by a woman
- he was drunk passed out
- then next thing he knows this girl he kept turning down earlier at the party was riding on his dick
- glad it wasn't just a thing about women
- tbh made me more willing to listen to what they had to say
- since it wasn't all one sided
- but yeah i feel that i am now more open to express my own opinions and beliefs
- dude you have no idea how good it feels
- yeah i try to avoid them too
- but if it comes up ever i feel i can put in my thoughts and opinions without being labeled something
- or shunned
- etc.
- and have rational open discussion
- and then eventually agree to disagree
- i am loving the college life
- also the food here is delicious
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