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  1. oh shit mate
  2.  
  3.  
  4. i actually had a good college experience last night
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  6.  
  7. with more liberal minded people
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  9.  
  10. and me being more conservative but still more in the m
  11.  
  12. we had this whole sexual assault thing
  13.  
  14.  
  15. and we went back to our clusters
  16.  
  17.  
  18. first we watched this video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pZwvrxVavnQ
  19.  
  20. then they wanted to discuss with us what we thought (these were upper classmen btw)
  21.  
  22.  
  23. they asked what we thought about the statistics
  24.  
  25.  
  26. i mentioned that i would have liked that they at least show the sources on a slide or something at the end of what they did
  27.  
  28.  
  29. and they agreed, as well as other people in the cluster
  30.  
  31.  
  32. then we started talking about some of the stuff they did
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  34.  
  35. like acting out at a party
  36.  
  37. both people are drunk, and they end up having sex at one of their houses
  38.  
  39.  
  40. in the scenario to stop it, the friends at the party would try to intervene
  41.  
  42.  
  43. and i said that was a poor example, a better example would be if she was wasted and he was sober or a little buzzed
  44.  
  45.  
  46. since they were also both excited and ready to fucc
  47.  
  48.  
  49. they agreed that there could have been a better example
  50.  
  51. then at the end i spoke up about the no consent while drunk
  52.  
  53. but also not everyone likes to be verbal
  54.  
  55.  
  56. nothing wrong with a few "do you like this"
  57.  
  58.  
  59. and you don't have to ask per se, but be forward, like i want you to take off your pants or something
  60.  
  61.  
  62. or can i take off your pants
  63.  
  64.  
  65. etc.
  66.  
  67.  
  68. or even saying i wanna fuck you
  69.  
  70.  
  71. which they used as an example
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  73.  
  74. as that's okay to say
  75.  
  76.  
  77. cause they can still say no thanks
  78.  
  79.  
  80. >but we can do this instead
  81.  
  82.  
  83. kek
  84.  
  85.  
  86. but also
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  88.  
  89. back on the consent while drunk
  90.  
  91.  
  92. is when our opinions clashed, but in a good way
  93.  
  94.  
  95. it was a completely open platform
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  97.  
  98. i was saying that if they're adult and mature enough to get drunk, then they should be able to deal with the consequences
  99.  
  100. like as long as she wasn't blacked out or was saying no to sex while drunk
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  102.  
  103. then all she has is regret
  104.  
  105. the people that did the thing did an example that the woman was out at a party, her friends left, she stayed cause she was having so much fun, got wasted, woke up the next morning with a guy in her bed
  106.  
  107.  
  108. and she was freaking out on the verge of tears
  109.  
  110.  
  111. and the cluster people mentioned that
  112.  
  113.  
  114. and i said that she made the conscious decision to get drunk
  115.  
  116.  
  117. and the other guy was drunk too
  118.  
  119.  
  120. she just regretted it afterward
  121.  
  122.  
  123. and a few people started to back me up, with one saying it's not a blanket
  124.  
  125. the cluster leaders were iffy on that, saying that they still think it's not consent when they're drunk
  126.  
  127.  
  128. but then i say they made the decision to get drunk and should be able to handle the potential consequences
  129.  
  130.  
  131. and we're not saying there aren't any victims or not
  132.  
  133.  
  134. especially if both parties are drunk
  135.  
  136.  
  137. but they're saying that you don't make good decisions when you're drunk
  138.  
  139. then i say it's a bad decision to get drunk so if they do that they should expect to make bad decisions
  140.  
  141.  
  142. then a girl chimed in saying that not trying to blame the victim, but there's things people can do to not put themselves in those situations
  143.  
  144. and then we agreed with each other on some parts about this scenario and whatnot
  145.  
  146.  
  147. but we eventially agreed to disagree and that it was a gray area (my words)
  148.  
  149.  
  150. they agreed and thought it was a good time to move on since we already covered everything
  151.  
  152.  
  153. and another guy after said he was glad i spoke out (he backed me up on some things)
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  155.  
  156. at the very beginning i almost didn't, but i couldn't help myself
  157.  
  158.  
  159. it really was a good experience tbh
  160.  
  161.  
  162. was surprised how much of an open platform there was, and even though we disagreed on some things, we agreed on many others
  163.  
  164.  
  165. and they also agreed that the statistics might be wrong, maybe not exactly as much as they're saying, but we agreed that it's not the number, but the fact it happens is wrong
  166.  
  167.  
  168. and that's when we did some group games
  169.  
  170. but yeah really positive experience
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  172.  
  173. really open platform
  174.  
  175.  
  176. no shutting down
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  178.  
  179. calm
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  181.  
  182. etc.
  183.  
  184.  
  185. people being open minded
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  187.  
  188. 10/10 experience
  189.  
  190.  
  191. and not everything in that sexual assault thing was bad, i actually like some things, and really enjoyed that they included that men can be raped and sexually assaulted
  192.  
  193.  
  194. and in one of their examples a man was raped by a woman
  195.  
  196.  
  197. he was drunk passed out
  198.  
  199.  
  200. then next thing he knows this girl he kept turning down earlier at the party was riding on his dick
  201.  
  202. glad it wasn't just a thing about women
  203.  
  204.  
  205. tbh made me more willing to listen to what they had to say
  206.  
  207.  
  208. since it wasn't all one sided
  209.  
  210. but yeah i feel that i am now more open to express my own opinions and beliefs
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dude you have no idea how good it feels
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  213.  
  214. yeah i try to avoid them too
  215.  
  216.  
  217. but if it comes up ever i feel i can put in my thoughts and opinions without being labeled something
  218.  
  219.  
  220. or shunned
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  222.  
  223. etc.
  224.  
  225.  
  226. and have rational open discussion
  227.  
  228.  
  229. and then eventually agree to disagree
  230.  
  231. i am loving the college life
  232.  
  233.  
  234. also the food here is delicious
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