<jmayfield> hey.. looking at riak for a project, vfx/film asset mgmt.
i've implemented such system using traditional rdbms backends,
and it always feels like a fight with complexity

13:41 <jmayfield> i am new to this world of nosql etc, but at a glance,
riak seems like a very good potential fit for this stuff

13:43 <benblack> what sort of trouble did you have with rdbms backends?

13:49 <jmayfield> complex schemas, for starters

13:49 <benblack> what made them complex?

13:49 <seldo> jmayfield: the design of the schema is not really
intrinsic to the data store

13:49 <benblack> hrm

13:50 <benblack> seldo: kind of disagree with you there

13:50 <jmayfield> uses contant need to new data structures, mods to existing ones, etc

13:50 <jmayfield> for example

13:50 <benblack> are the assets going into the db, or just metadata?

13:51 <jmayfield> depends, usually metadata

13:53 <benblack> without something more specific i can't really offer much advice

13:54 <jmayfield> yeah, i know

13:54 <jmayfield> hehe

13:59 <jmayfield> well, heres a typical problem.. nested assets, where
some of the nested assets have data mods per context (how/where they are nested)

14:04 <benblack> often best handled in riak with links

14:05 <benblack> rather than trying to directly nest in a single document

14:05 <jmayfield> right

14:07 <jmayfield> i like the link stuff for sure

14:07 <jmayfield> feels similar to playing with symlinks in an fs..or maybe i am totally wrong

14:07 <jmayfield> hehe

14:10 <jmayfield> maybe the fs analogy works foro what i am getting at. you have
assets (real files) that need to be plopped into collections (folders full of symlinks)..
with the added requirement of being able to mod/extend the sylinked file when in folder
A vs folder B

14:11 <benblack> sounds fine

14:27 <pete_lacey> Hope you guys don't mind if I do a hit and run, but I have a
question about the ruby library for Riak. Does it support named functions? If
o, what's the syntax for calling them. Googled around and came up dry.


14:30 <jmayfield> benblack, how might one think about something like that with riak..
when asset b is linked to asset a, asset b has some different value for x? (assuming yuo
have the time/interest in helping me and my vagueness)

14:40 <benblack> jmayfield: don't understand the question. links are links.

14:44 <jmayfield> benblack, if asset b has attr1 and attr2, i want attr1 to be somethng else
when it comes from a link on asset a, yet if somebody mods attr2 on asset a, i get that change.. hehe

14:45 <benblack> then i recommend you implement that in your app

14:45 <jmayfield> i am just trying to get a grip on how theses sorts of things might be
accomplish

14:45 <jmayfield> sure

14:47 <jmayfield> i have just had my head in postgres/mysql for years.. trying to rethink
this data stuff.. heh