<Tarami>my father said
Tarami>it's not wrong
Vowel_Movement> "i would love to see a movie with you"
Vowel_Movement> you say
Tarami>no
Tarami>i neer said such thing
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Vowel_Movement> "i dont think that would be appropriate"
Tarami>i only wanna replied as needed
Tarami>?
Tarami>say like this
Tarami>A called you "hi
Tarami>"
Vowel_Movement> i know
Tarami>then you said "I Don't think that would be appropriate"?
Vowel_Movement> but listen
Tarami>i dont understand
Vowel_Movement> it took that man courage to talk to you
Tarami>yes
Vowel_Movement> in return do him the honor of saying no
Vowel_Movement> be courageous and say no
Vowel_Movement> dont waste his time
Vowel_Movement> or his energy
Tarami>then you can just simply being polite explaining so it won't hurt him that much and you won't get said as rude woman?
Vowel_Movement> or his love
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Vowel_Movement> what hurts men isnt words
Vowel_Movement> its time
Vowel_Movement> dont let his love grow
Vowel_Movement> or it will only hurt more when he has to kill it
Tarami>hey
Tarami>i don tunderstand
Tarami>how acn you be so sure that they come for errotic love?
Vowel_Movement> its not erotic
Vowel_Movement> its so complicated, like with your love
Tarami>yes, but they don't say like what you meant above
Vowel_Movement> but its aggressive, and time based
Tarami>A: "hi"
Tarami>Me : "Yes?"
Vowel_Movement> and the longer he loves you the more its going to hurt when he finds out you dont want it
Vowel_Movement> just shut him down
Tarami>you wont love a stranger on the first time you called
Tarami>right?
Vowel_Movement> at that point shut him down
Vowel_Movement> say "bye"
Tarami>?
Tarami>i dont udnerstand
Tarami>then how can you have female friends?
Vowel_Movement> lol
Vowel_Movement> carefully
Tarami>your'e a guy
Vowel_Movement> most of my female friends are like sisters to me
Tarami>according to what you said, you by now should have not even a single female friend but your wife/couple only
Vowel_Movement> i make fun of them a lot
Vowel_Movement> they make fun of me
Vowel_Movement> it works somehow
Vowel_Movement> because we keep light hearts with eachother
Vowel_Movement> you might be surprised too
Vowel_Movement> you might tell some guy to go jump off a cliff
Tarami>then why dont' u just repel them like what you said above when she tried to introduce herself to you?
Vowel_Movement> and he might say something really funny back to you
Tarami>then why dont' u just repel them like what you said above when she tried to introduce herself to you?
Vowel_Movement> and next thing you know, you have a situation you never expected
Tarami>they all love you
Tarami>you dont love them
Tarami>then why did you get to know them?
Vowel_Movement> i do love them
Vowel_Movement> but not erotically
Tarami>you're not supposed to
Tarami>yes
Vowel_Movement> i love them as one human loves another human
Tarami>then why did you judge the guys wwho called me love me errotically?
Vowel_Movement> i just mean shut down the sex
Tarami>they all said only wanna get acquainted
Tarami>they didnt talk about sex
Vowel_Movement> if you dont want the sexual relationship, dont let them keep asking for it
Tarami>they didnt talk about sexual relationship
Tarami>they only said this
Tarami>"hi"
Vowel_Movement> oh
Vowel_Movement> wait
Tarami>"asl"
Vowel_Movement> i misunderstood
Vowel_Movement> ok
Vowel_Movement> no
Tarami>and you toold me to "hey, go away, i dont like you"
Vowel_Movement> no no
Vowel_Movement> i misunderstood
Tarami>or you simply told me to just being silent
Vowel_Movement> i thought you had conversations with them
Vowel_Movement> lol
Tarami>and ingore them totally in a meaning that i should not reply a word
Vowel_Movement> someone saying asl to you is nothing at all
Vowel_Movement> wait
Vowel_Movement> how long have you been on the internet?
Tarami>you on your own judged that they wanna lvoe me
Tarami>i have been on for years
Vowel_Movement> you're right
Vowel_Movement> thats my error, i made an assumption
Tarami>what i said is
Vowel_Movement> not an unfair one
Tarami>but i often got told to do that
Tarami>i dont know them all
Tarami>i never talked with them before
Tarami>you told me to just say "go away, i dont ;liek you"..
Tarami>that'swhy i asked you that you are not supposed to have a single female friend today
Vowel_Movement> the fact that you asked for help on the subject led me to believe there was something of substance to what they said to you
Tarami>all should be male friends
Vowel_Movement> if they want sex
Tarami>they dont ask
Tarami>they only said "hi, asl, how old, what country?"
Tarami>only that
<Vowel_Movement> asl is a sex thing, Tarami
Tarami>and when i ONLY said "hi, 34 years old, f, Indonesia"
Tarami>then the first guy who talked with me (whom i just talked with today) quitted
Tarami>its always like that
Tarami>no
<Vowel_Movement> you're too innocent for the internet Tarami
Tarami>asl is shorts for age, gender, and language
Tarami>no
Vowel_Movement> go back to making bread or whatever you do
Tarami>youre' the one who judge on cover
Tarami>you said asl means asking for sex
Vowel_Movement> it is
Vowel_Movement> its not asking for sex
Tarami>while the second guy when i asked what is it for, he said "only to get acquainted"
Vowel_Movement> its asking "are you sexually compatable with me"
Tarami>you said asl means asking for sex
Tarami>no
Vowel_Movement> i said "its a sex thing"
Tarami>according to english, asl = age, sex, language
Vowel_Movement> its related to sex
Tarami>no
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Tarami>ti's normal term
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Vowel_Movement> listen
Tarami>unleess it's celar
Tarami>unless it's clear that he asks for sex
Vowel_Movement> just be careful on the internet ok
Vowel_Movement> you seem very new here
Tarami>if you said he is asking only by asl, then it means you judge somebody before it's proved
Tarami>no
Vowel_Movement> im not going to argue with you
Vowel_Movement> asl is a sexual precursor
Tarami>what i am saying is
Vowel_Movement> nobody has said that earnestly since aol chat
Tarami>when the second guy say "hi, how old?" and i said "hi, 34" and then the first guy who called me suddenly quitted
Tarami>and it's been long itme like this
Vowel_Movement> asl means "are you someone i would want to have sex with"
Vowel_Movement> and thats all it means now
Tarami>we can ask for poll
Vowel_Movement> you brought this on yourself
Vowel_Movement> by having a name that ends with an i
Tarami>if it means like what yous aid according to layman
Vowel_Movement> it does
Tarami>you are judging people
Vowel_Movement> no
Tarami>it's only you
Vowel_Movement> lol
Tarami>you gotta get a crowd of good people like 20, and aks them
Vowel_Movement> i dont want sex
Tarami>then you will get to know
Vowel_Movement> sex just wastes my time
Tarami>if it should really mean like what you think
Tarami>kay
Vowel_Movement> ive done that
Vowel_Movement> ive put time into family
Vowel_Movement> im just glad i didnt have kids
Vowel_Movement> i made a moral choice not to reproduce
Tarami>done what?
Tarami>i dont understand
Vowel_Movement> dont worry about it
Vowel_Movement> my country is getting more dangerous every day
Tarami>you mean you have a wife but you don't wanna give your wife a kid?
Vowel_Movement> i mean i dont want to force another human being to live here
Vowel_Movement> against their will
Vowel_Movement> i didnt get to choose whether or not to exist
Vowel_Movement> and im not going to force that on anyone else either
Tarami>so you're married?
Vowel_Movement> i was
Vowel_Movement> we split amicably
Vowel_Movement> we're still friends
Tarami>and you dont wanna give her a kid?
Vowel_Movement> no
Vowel_Movement> well yes
Tarami>i pity your wife
Tarami>sorry
Vowel_Movement> but im not thinking about her
Vowel_Movement> im thinking about the child
Vowel_Movement> he doesnt deserve a world this messed up
Tarami>then what the wife who has been mingled with you?
Vowel_Movement> shes a doctor now
Tarami>you know it's a sin to divorce your wife?
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Vowel_Movement> yes i know that
Vowel_Movement> its a worse sin to lie to her though
Tarami>she deosn't have affair with another man and you divorced her on your own decision
Vowel_Movement> she didnt
Vowel_Movement> she doesnt
Tarami>ti's really not fair for her
Vowel_Movement> i left her to join the army
Vowel_Movement> i did my time
Vowel_Movement> its been a long time since i left her
Tarami>you mean you joined army but not divorcing her or you joiend the army by divorcing her first?
Vowel_Movement> same time
Vowel_Movement> i told her i was leaving
Vowel_Movement> then i joined the army right after
Tarami>oh
Tarami>i will take this into account next time
Vowel_Movement> she wanted to tame me
Vowel_Movement> i love her but i cant have that
Tarami>yikes
Vowel_Movement> its complicated ok
Tarami>you join army doesnt mean you should divorce her
Vowel_Movement> its more complicated over here ok
Tarami>kay
Tarami>sorry
Vowel_Movement> over there we would still be married
Tarami>no
Vowel_Movement> but here it wouldnt work that way
Tarami>its' already said
Tarami>until death separates you
Vowel_Movement> we arent seperate
Vowel_Movement> we just arent married anymore
Tarami>you said you divorced her .. divorce = separate
Tarami>it's sae
Tarami>it's same
Vowel_Movement> over here marriage is a government thing
Vowel_Movement> its man + woman + god + government
Vowel_Movement> i dont really want to talk about this
Tarami>kay
Tarami>sorry
Vowel_Movement> shes ok
Tarami>i am only here for asking what i asked above
Tarami>i dunno
Vowel_Movement> shes a doctor now
Vowel_Movement> and im a soldier
Vowel_Movement> funny isnt it
Tarami>its' not about being able to make a living only
Vowel_Movement> she heals and i wound
Vowel_Movement> lol
Vowel_Movement> ironically they pay us both about the same
Tarami>that's godo that you both got paid
Vowel_Movement> what i mean to say
Vowel_Movement> and hear me well
Vowel_Movement> when you find the one you are meant to love forever you wont have a choice
Vowel_Movement> about loving them
Vowel_Movement> and when you find that one you wont have to say no anymore
Vowel_Movement> because anyone who sees you will know who you love
Vowel_Movement> or if they are really stupid
Vowel_Movement> they will atleast know you dont love them
Vowel_Movement> dont be so eager to find the end of your road so quickly
Tarami>so anyone is alright as long as the guy is good person right?
Tarami>i am not being eager to find it
Tarami>i am here cuz i wanna ask if i can be deemed as a who-re
Tarami>for repliying the second guy word "hi" with "hi" only
Tarami>whlie tehre's first guy calling me and hav ebeen talking wiht me for 15 minutes
Tarami>i myself dont call anybody
Tarami>i got a complicated trouble
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Tarami>i hope typing ... is alright
Tarami>to somebody who asked sex like what you said above
Vowel_Movement> your affectations are getting on my nerves as much as mine are getting on yours
Tarami>i dont wanna be hated for nothing wrong people di ot me
Tarami>no
Tarami>what affectations?
Tarami>you arleady said
Tarami>that i should say no to those who show like wanna have errotic love with me
Vowel_Movement> no
Tarami>but what they said is only "hi, how old"
Tarami>yes
Tarami>you told me to say "go away, id ont' like you"
Vowel_Movement> i said to say no to those who you dont want to have erotic love with
Tarami>to them when they show signs that they're trying to have errotic love relationship wiht me if i don't like them
Vowel_Movement> eroticism shouldnt be the driving force in your relationships
Vowel_Movement> but who am i to dictate
Tarami>yes
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Vowel_Movement> i can only give opinions
Tarami>but you told me to
Tarami>i already typed for you the exact convo
Tarami>A : "Hi"
Vowel_Movement> i just said if you dont want a man and he wants you and he keeps talking to you
Tarami>Me : "Yes, what do you need from me?"
Vowel_Movement> dont say "maybe someday"
Vowel_Movement> say "never"
Tarami>then when will i ever have male friends then?
Vowel_Movement> but who knows
Tarami>and how can you ever have female friends?
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Vowel_Movement> maybe you want to keep a stable of men
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Tarami>friends talk
Vowel_Movement> for some rainy day
Vowel_Movement> incase you ever get dumped
Tarami>no
Tarami>it's not that
Tarami>then why do you have female friends now?
Vowel_Movement> so tell them to go F themselves
Tarami>don't they talk with you?
Vowel_Movement> i tell them no
Tarami>yes
Tarami>it's not that
Tarami>i mean
Vowel_Movement> we still talk
Tarami>hwo can you have female friends then?
Vowel_Movement> but now they know its never going to happen
Tarami>then youre' nto supposed ot talk
Vowel_Movement> i didnt say that
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Vowel_Movement> just kill the idea of a sexual relationship
Tarami>according to your words, after saying no, you should not keep on talking with them
Vowel_Movement> kill it mercilessly with anyone you dont want it with
Tarami>while i evne told vey clearly "I dont wanna him hrut" and yet iw as said as a who-re
Vowel_Movement> lol
Vowel_Movement> just say no
Vowel_Movement> sex is bad mmmkay
Vowel_Movement> lol
Vowel_Movement> just relax ok
Tarami>but i said it very celarly
Tarami>that's the fact
Tarami>relax or not, fact
Vowel_Movement> dont make me come to indonesia
Tarami>then why di dyou still talk with them if you arleady said no
Tarami>i dont make you coming to indonesia
Tarami>according ot your opinion, you shoul dsay no
Tarami>you did say "no"
Vowel_Movement> a few times, yes, i did say no
Tarami>but they still came at you and talked with you, according to your words above, your'e not supposed ot even reply a word
Vowel_Movement> sometimes i said it a little more diplomatically
Vowel_Movement> sometimes, a little less
Tarami>why don't u just totally ingore them?
Vowel_Movement> but i dont string people along
Tarami>i was demanded to do that
Tarami>that i should ignore totally
Vowel_Movement> if i like someone i let them know it, there is no doubt
Vowel_Movement> fortunately i rarely ever like anyone
Tarami>you said a letter, it means you are interested
Vowel_Movement> lol
Tarami>if you are not interested, then it should not be a problem for you if they hate you right?
Vowel_Movement> you are getting a little salty now
Tarami>if you are not interested, then it should not be a problem for you if they hate you right?
Tarami>that's what i was told
Vowel_Movement> well lets try a thought experiment
Tarami>that's what i was told
Vowel_Movement> if you were to tell me that you hated me
Tarami>taht's not my opinion
Tarami>no
Tarami>i mean
Vowel_Movement> do you think i would care, even a little bit?
Tarami>you wont
Tarami>yes
Tarami>but i was told
Vowel_Movement> but, lets keep going
Vowel_Movement> if you were to say you hated me, do you think i would suddenly hate you in return?
Tarami>"if your'e not interested, then you should not reply a bit, why bother replying? it should not be a problem if they hate you right?"
Tarami>no
Vowel_Movement> no
Tarami>yes
<24mintadoanya> You two flood this channel, but that is good, since everybody here is mute
Tarami>i was told htat
Tarami>taht wasn't my opinion
Vowel_Movement> what i mean is make is absolutely clear you are not interested
Tarami>it was the one who said loving me
Vowel_Movement> it will take some time to get tactful with it
Tarami>hey
Tarami>my words to a guy "I am sorry, can't interact with you at all cuz i may hurt the one who love me"
Tarami>it's very clear
Vowel_Movement> lol
Tarami>and i was blamed and called as bad woman for that
Vowel_Movement> thats not what i told you to do at all
Tarami>while i was told to do this
Vowel_Movement> you're the one asking if asl is safe
Vowel_Movement> and i said its indicative of a predatory sexual interest
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Vowel_Movement> eh whatever
Vowel_Movement> have fun
Vowel_Movement> i have something to think about
Tarami>"if you're not interested, then you should not reply a word at all. WHy bother replying? you dont' know them earlier. It's just alright if they come to hate you for you not replying a word since you're not interested right?"
Vowel_Movement> i dont think thats a direct quote
Tarami>it is
Tarami>i was told that
Vowel_Movement> not from me
Tarami>and i ever saw such quote in christian forum
Vowel_Movement> ill be back in 3-5 days
Vowel_Movement> dont wait up
Tarami>that the person didn't reply at all when a guy said "hi"..
Vowel_Movement> im gonna go to bed now
Tarami>not even a dot
Tarami>good night
Tarami>ty for replies
Vowel_Movement> it was fun
Tarami>but that wasn't my opinion i tell ya
Tarami>my opnion is
Tarami>very celar
Vowel_Movement> i still think you need to relax
Tarami>i answered in a way so i wont get hated but it's also clear that i can't be with them
Tarami>yes
<Vowel_Movement> either way, take it easy, Tarami
Tarami>but my main ipoint is that opinion above
Vowel_Movement> its not as serious as you think it is
Tarami>you wont take it easy if you're abused
Tarami>trust me
Vowel_Movement> no but
Tarami>he's chanign not because of me
Vowel_Movement> taking it easy is how you survive it
Tarami>but becasue he himself has walked to look for befriending my best friend
Vowel_Movement> remember the problem isnt whats hurting you
Tarami>that's hwy he could forgive me for relyign another guy a word like "hi"
Vowel_Movement> its your reaction to the problem that is hurting you
Tarami>i do
Tarami>but i got abused for that
Vowel_Movement> im not a therapist
Vowel_Movement> i can only give the most obvious advice
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Vowel_Movement> be calm, stay in control
Tarami>i am
Vowel_Movement> and guide yourself to a safe landing
Vowel_Movement> once you have your feet on the ground
Tarami>my best friend herself alaso talked with another player in coc
Vowel_Movement> do some repairs
Vowel_Movement> then fly again
Vowel_Movement> thats all i know
Tarami>and he also added my real life female friends
Tarami>but if i am the one added and looked fo rnaother guy first
Tarami>i ams ure he  wont lik eit
Tarami>what improtant is
Vowel_Movement> sounds creepy
Tarami>i dont look adn add others on my own intiaiton
Vowel_Movement> i think you can get arrested here for what hes doing
Tarami>why should i be the one who get arrested?
Tarami>i dont do anything wrong
Vowel_Movement> not you
Vowel_Movement> him
Tarami>i dunno
Tarami>i guess not
<Vowel_Movement> context, Tarami
Vowel_Movement> ESL is a bitch
Tarami>he onlys aid me bad woman
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Tarami>but that's logn ago
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