* Noone should have to suffer but me.

20:22	dreamSilentAnswer	OH hey
20:22	dreamSilentAnswer	that reminds me
20:22	equalitySaurus	BUT I'M NOT AS CUTE AS YOU, HOWLBEAST >:33
20:22	steeledProtagonist	also are you down with musclebeast meat cause i still have ghost image
20:22	steeledProtagonist	i am the taller guy
20:22	dreamSilentAnswer	I was supposed to tell everyone how we were doing in the grand quest to maybe make me not die
20:22	snaplockSunblood	Great
20:23	steeledProtagonist	tawny hair tail the works
20:23	musicalDecay	awesome
20:23		steeledProtagonist had uploaded the file "deadmusclebeast.png" to the memo
20:23	dreamSilentAnswer	So you know that Heart ability that lets you have your realself and your dreamself awake at once?
20:23	snaplockSunblood	No
20:23	steeledProtagonist	and dinosaur?
20:23	ventricularPipefitter	Mm-hm?
20:23	steeledProtagonist	:3
20:23	dreamSilentAnswer	Well Timmy totally figured out how to do that to other people!
20:23	musicalDecay	yes?
20:24	ventricularPipefitter	Awesome.
20:24	musicalDecay	sweet
20:24	dreamSilentAnswer	And since we both wanted it, he's pretty sure he can make it permanent
20:24	dreamSilentAnswer	BUt
20:24	ventricularPipefitter	High five.
20:24	dreamSilentAnswer	There's a catch
20:24	ventricularPipefitter	Yeah?
20:24	dreamSilentAnswer	Well
20:24	dreamSilentAnswer	Normally you have one mind that jumps between two bodies
20:24	dreamSilentAnswer	And only one body is ever active
20:24	dreamSilentAnswer	For heart players, you get one mind but both bodies are active and you can jump between them
20:24	dreamSilentAnswer	But for us...
20:25	snaplockSunblood	Not seeing the catch
20:25	dreamSilentAnswer	We've got two minds and two bodies and BOTH ARE ACTVIE
20:25	dreamSilentAnswer	So neither of us can sleep
20:25	steeledProtagonist	oh fuck
20:25	steeledProtagonist	well
20:25	musicalDecay	oh, that sounds sucky.
20:25	steeledProtagonist	you have rage?
20:25	steeledProtagonist	you could yell at someone for them to faint
20:25	steeledProtagonist	...i did it once
20:25	steeledProtagonist	but with howling
20:26	steeledProtagonist	and it was weird as hell 3:
20:26	dreamSilentAnswer	We tried that
20:26	dreamSilentAnswer	It was weird
20:26	dreamSilentAnswer	But mostly it broke the shiny modification
20:26	dreamSilentAnswer	We haven't redone it yet because, well
20:26	dreamSilentAnswer	Anything that means you can never sleep again isn't a real solution
20:27	ventricularPipefitter	Mmmn.
20:27	musicalDecay	yeah, tried no sleep once. doesn't end well.
20:27	snaplockSunblood	...been nosleeping for a while now
20:27	snaplockSunblood	Ain't fun
20:27	ventricularPipefitter	Replayers do better without sleep than, uh, what normal science suggests should be ossible.
20:27	ventricularPipefitter	But it ain't good.
20:28	beneficientTutor	Yes, it is not advisable to avoid sleeping.
20:28	musicalDecay	My law tried to get revenge at me by banning me from sleep once, it ended how you would expect.
20:28	ventricularPipefitter	...Ah. Ileena.
20:28	ventricularPipefitter	When did you come in?
20:28	dreamSilentAnswer	Funny thing
20:29	snaplockSunblood	Easy enough when you have a futureself keeping you from sleeping
20:29	dreamSilentAnswer	When the Rain player heard that we had a shiny mod to remove sleep
20:29	beneficientTutor	I have been here for a short while now.
20:29	dreamSilentAnswer	He begged us to give it to him
20:29	dreamSilentAnswer	I'm not sure if he was serious though
20:29	musicalDecay	oh, I know why
20:29	musicalDecay	he is
20:29	dreamSilentAnswer	Because he couldn't stop laughing
20:29	stanzicApparati	Rain.
20:29	stanzicApparati	He probably is.
20:29	musicalDecay	he is so serious
20:29	stanzicApparati	They laugh no matter what.
20:29	musicalDecay	but don't give it to him
20:29	musicalDecay	trust me.
20:30	dreamSilentAnswer	Why?
20:30	dreamSilentAnswer	Pretty sure that'd make anyone more crazy
20:30	snaplockSunblood	So you don't got that ability on I gather?
20:30	musicalDecay	If you give it to him, he will ignore sleep Intel he dies
20:30	ventricularPipefitter	It's been chaotic. I missed you in the shuffle.
20:30	snaplockSunblood	Don't that mean you ain't gonna get saved or sommat?
20:31	musicalDecay	And he will not even care.
20:31	dreamSilentAnswer	Well it doesn't matter because he misheard
20:31	dreamSilentAnswer	For ME it makes it impossible to sleep
20:31	dreamSilentAnswer	For him it'd just make him control his realself and his dreamself at once
20:31	dreamSilentAnswer	Which would be kind of pointless
20:31	musicalDecay	Yeah, it's just that rain thinks that it can run around with no sleep ever.
20:32	stanzicApparati	Well, Rain.
20:32	musicalDecay	If you try that though, you will randomly pass out after a while.
20:32	snaplockSunblood	Hey. Don't that mean you ain't saved?
20:32	dreamSilentAnswer	yes
20:32	dreamSilentAnswer	yes it does
20:32	dreamSilentAnswer	though I was probably not saved anyways
20:33	dreamSilentAnswer	I mean
20:33	dreamSilentAnswer	Even if we did get it to work
20:33	dreamSilentAnswer	Without side effects
20:33	dreamSilentAnswer	Where would I go?
20:34	dreamSilentAnswer	You can't stall the session forever and you can't stick around once it's over
20:34	snaplockSunblood	Fuck if I know. Player, nondoomed nonplayer and wherever /they/ go
20:34	steeledProtagonist	players to the ring
20:34	musicalDecay	And all the other options are...othery.
20:34	steeledProtagonist	nonplayers to the underworlds
20:35	steeledProtagonist	not in game underworlds
20:35	steeledProtagonist	real ones
20:35	dreamSilentAnswer	The ring isn't othery?
20:36	snaplockSunblood	Just walk through the door and see what happens.
20:36	snaplockSunblood	Gotta be better'n dying
20:36	musicalDecay	never hurt to try something new.
20:36	dreamSilentAnswer	That REALLY isn't an option
20:37	dreamSilentAnswer	like, by this point there's twenty different options telling me I can't walk through the door
20:37	dreamSilentAnswer	And if I try it'll just stop being the alpha timeline
20:37	musicalDecay	did you think about going god mode and merging?
20:38	dreamSilentAnswer	I think Atrophos spent the entire time before we reached her setting this up
20:38	dreamSilentAnswer	...
20:38	dreamSilentAnswer	No
20:38	dreamSilentAnswer	Merging is NOT an option
20:38	musicalDecay	okay, sorry.
20:39	musicalDecay	I'm just used to a bunch of dupli-clones that merge like it's out of style.
20:40	dreamSilentAnswer	Well what works for rain players is not ok for the rest of us
20:40	musicalDecay	oh, trust me. I learnt that a /LONG/ time ago.
20:41	snaplockSunblood	Buh fuck if I know what you oughta do
20:41	snaplockSunblood	They ever say /why/ you can't walk through the door
20:41	ventricularPipefitter	Also, Snaplock, how you been lately?
20:41	dreamSilentAnswer	Well basically, by now we've got it on good authority
20:42	dreamSilentAnswer	Either one of us can walk through just fine
20:42	dreamSilentAnswer	But if the second one tries, she dies
20:42	snaplockSunblood	Dint the creepy Hooks guy have a plan or sommat?
20:42	dreamSilentAnswer	NO
20:42	dreamSilentAnswer	We are NOT DOING HIS PLAN
20:42	equalitySaurus	OKAY I AM BACK TO NOT GETTING PAINTING. (( i.imgur.com/Dw6IN.png ))
20:43	musicalDecay	Hello ES
20:43	musicalDecay	oh, that's sweet
20:43	equalitySaurus	HE IS SHOWING ME THIS AND I THINK IT IS DERSE, AND I AM LIKE, "WHY DID YOU PAINT THAT?"
20:43	equalitySaurus	AND HE IS ALL LIKE, "BECAUSE"
20:43	equalitySaurus	AND I AM LIKE, "UHHHH"
20:43	snaplockSunblood	Why the /fuck/ not?
20:43	snaplockSunblood	You want to live don't ya?
20:43	equalitySaurus	"IT DOESN'T EVEN HAVE A SWEET DINOSAUR"
20:44	musicalDecay	Sorry ES, not all art can have n=dinosaurs in them.
20:44	dreamSilentAnswer	If we do whatever his plan was
20:44	dreamSilentAnswer	...
20:44	dreamSilentAnswer	Actually I don't even know if we can avoid it at this point
20:44	equalitySaurus	WHY NOT?
20:45	dreamSilentAnswer	But he tried to make a deal with the Others
20:45	dreamSilentAnswer	And they asked a price that is way too high
20:46	steeledProtagonist	this is a good question
20:46	steeledProtagonist	why paintings dont have more dinosaurs
20:46	steeledProtagonist	well mona lisa would look kinda weird with dinosaur head
20:46	steeledProtagonist	but maybe it is jut me
20:46	steeledProtagonist	*just
20:47	steeledProtagonist	also gotta go
20:47	steeledProtagonist	hell
20:47	musicalDecay	Have fun SP
20:47	steeledProtagonist	prospit eclipse is starting soon
20:47	dreamSilentAnswer	Bye!
20:47		steeledProtagonist disconnected
20:47	dreamSilentAnswer	Ugh those things are bad news I say
20:47	musicalDecay	Hey DSA, are you free for a couple minutes?
20:48	dreamSilentAnswer	Yes
20:48	equalitySaurus	 THERE, MUCH BETTER! (( i.imgur.com/jkX21.png ))
20:48	musicalDecay	Can I ask a couple questions about a shiny?
20:49	dreamSilentAnswer	Ok sure
20:49	dreamSilentAnswer	I don't know a lot though
20:49	dreamSilentAnswer	also we should be in another channel if we're gonna do that
20:49	musicalDecay	okay, sounds good.
20:50	musicalDecay	I have no clue how to set one up though
20:50	ventricularPipefitter	MD, sure.
20:50	ventricularPipefitter	What about them?
20:50	musicalDecay	Just a couple things I'm worried about.
20:51	musicalDecay	But a side channel would be best I think.
20:51	dreamSilentAnswer	Here come join me at #HappyShinyTalk
20:51		dreamSilentAnswer has left the main memo


20:58		tenaciousTheseus began responding to the memo
20:59	stanzicApparati	Hey, tenthe.
21:00	tenaciousTheseus	Hiya
21:00	tenaciousTheseus	I miss anything I should know about?
21:02	snaplockSunblood	Silans is refusing to get herself fixed
21:02	tenaciousTheseus	Did she say anything about any plan?
21:02	snaplockSunblood	Yeah she said she ain't gonna do the one Hooks has
21:03	tenaciousTheseus	Mmm
21:03	tenaciousTheseus	Didn't think she would
21:03	tenaciousTheseus	Knowledge at too high a price
21:03	tenaciousTheseus	Sigh
21:05	tenaciousTheseus	So
21:06	tenaciousTheseus	How's everybody doing?
21:06	snaplockSunblood	Just /dandy/
21:06	tenaciousTheseus	Still locked up, I see
21:07	stanzicApparati	I'm doing okay.
21:07	stanzicApparati	Bought out the crafts store in order to get enough yarn.
21:08	ventricularPipefitter	...Enough?
21:08	tenaciousTheseus	Wow
21:08	tenaciousTheseus	Uh
21:08	tenaciousTheseus	What are you planning on making?
21:08		dreamSilentAnswer has returned to the memo
21:09	tenaciousTheseus	Hello
21:09	dreamSilentAnswer	Oh hi!
21:09	dreamSilentAnswer	So, uhh
21:09	dreamSilentAnswer	I probably ought to tell you
21:10	dreamSilentAnswer	We had a partial success with the shiny thing
21:10	snaplockSunblood	Yer back
21:10	dreamSilentAnswer	We can get us both awake at once, and the change CAN be permanent
21:10	tenaciousTheseus	That's good to hear
21:10	dreamSilentAnswer	But if we do it then neither of us can sleep at ALL
21:10	dreamSilentAnswer	And when Danny ordered one of us to sleep the shiny mod broke and we were back to normal
21:10	dreamSilentAnswer	So it won't really work long-term
21:11	tenaciousTheseus	Hm
21:11	tenaciousTheseus	I guess it depends on how long you need to be awake in order to do it completely
21:11	dreamSilentAnswer	Do what completely?
21:12	dreamSilentAnswer	Flee somewhere and live out the rest of my life?
21:12	tenaciousTheseus	I have no idea
21:12	tenaciousTheseus	Make you safe?
21:12	tenaciousTheseus	I was thinking you'd enter the door and become a player in your own right
21:13	dreamSilentAnswer	I really, really can't enter the door
21:13	dreamSilentAnswer	There's so many prophecies saying that won't work by now I've lost count
21:13	dreamSilentAnswer	If one of us uses the door, we're fine
21:13	dreamSilentAnswer	If the second one tries, she dies
21:14	dreamSilentAnswer	We've got everything here--libraries on both moons, dream clouds, the word of two denizens, you name it
21:14	tenaciousTheseus	Sigh
21:15	dreamSilentAnswer	I think Atrophos went back in time and set things up just to make sure we'd run into even more prophecies saying the same thing
21:15	dreamSilentAnswer	Just in case we didn't get the hint
21:15	tenaciousTheseus	Sounds like something a Denizen would do
21:15	dreamSilentAnswer	Also forward in time because yeah
21:15		soulHooks joined the memo
21:15	tenaciousTheseus	Ah, Time travel
21:15	tenaciousTheseus	Hello
21:15	soulHooks	hey
21:15	dreamSilentAnswer	Hey
21:15	dreamSilentAnswer	Umm
21:15	tenaciousTheseus	Before you ask
21:15	dreamSilentAnswer	are you
21:15	dreamSilentAnswer	ok?
21:15	soulHooks	Silent!
21:16	soulHooks	holy shit where the hell have you BEEN are YOU okay oh god
21:16		soulHooks hugs her
21:16		soulHooks hugs her tightly
21:16		dreamSilentAnswer hugs soulHooks
21:16	dreamSilentAnswer	Please don't ever do something like that again
21:16	dreamSilentAnswer	Ever
21:16	soulHooks	don't you ever disappear like that again!!!!!
21:16	soulHooks	D:
21:17	dreamSilentAnswer	Awake me couldn't decide if she was more angry or scared for you
21:17	soulHooks	i'm
21:17	soulHooks	i'm pretty much fine
21:17	soulHooks	but what about you guys?
21:17	soulHooks	did the thing work?
21:17	dreamSilentAnswer	Which thing
21:17	tenaciousTheseus	His plan
21:17	dreamSilentAnswer	Zephyr we
21:17	dreamSilentAnswer	didn't do that plan
21:17	dreamSilentAnswer	We're not going to do that plan
21:18	soulHooks	???
21:18	soulHooks	why not?
21:18	dreamSilentAnswer	Why not?
21:18	dreamSilentAnswer	Why not?
21:18	soulHooks	yes!
21:18	tenaciousTheseus	Because it was a plan give to you by the Horrorterrors
21:18	dreamSilentAnswer	Have you listened to anything either of us ever said?
21:18	tenaciousTheseus	The knowledge came at too high a price
21:18	soulHooks	...
21:18	dreamSilentAnswer	Why would I think I was more important than Eleria?
21:20	soulHooks	but
21:20	dreamSilentAnswer	She made music that hurts the angels
21:20		soulHooks PMs "silent": (maybe you are more important than her)
21:20	dreamSilentAnswer	And is beautiful
21:20		soulHooks PMs "silent": (maybe i think you're really way more important than her)
21:20	dreamSilentAnswer	Next to her, I'm not very important at all
21:21		soulHooks PMs "silent": (maybe i would die to save you)
21:21		soulHooks PMs "silent": (okay?!)
21:21	dreamSilentAnswer	I'm just you guys' special project, to try to save if you can
21:21	soulHooks	that's not true
21:21	tenaciousTheseus	You are a PLayer
21:21	dreamSilentAnswer	...
21:21	dreamSilentAnswer	soulHooks
21:21	tenaciousTheseus	That is why we are going to save you
21:21	dreamSilentAnswer	don't
21:21	dreamSilentAnswer	don't say things like that
21:22	dreamSilentAnswer	you shouldn't...
21:22	dreamSilentAnswer	I'm going to die ok?
21:22	soulHooks	not okay!
21:22	dreamSilentAnswer	I've mostly accepted it
21:22	soulHooks	i--
21:22	soulHooks	i can't let you die
21:22	dreamSilentAnswer	So it's true isn't it?
21:22	dreamSilentAnswer	What she said?
21:23	dreamSilentAnswer	That you're in love with... one of me
21:23	dreamSilentAnswer	Maybe both
21:23	dreamSilentAnswer	It has to be
21:23	soulHooks	i--
21:23	dreamSilentAnswer	That's why you're doing this, right?
21:23	soulHooks	no, i'm just
21:23	soulHooks	responsible
21:23	tenaciousTheseus	You are not responsible, Zephyr
21:23	soulHooks	i talked up all this stuff about sapience
21:23	dreamSilentAnswer	You're responsible for your own session
21:23	soulHooks	and killing lex luthor
21:23	dreamSilentAnswer	You're responsible for Eleria, not me
21:24	soulHooks	but
21:24	soulHooks	oh, god, come one
21:24	soulHooks	on
21:24	soulHooks	please
21:24	soulHooks	just
21:24	soulHooks	be selfish
21:24	soulHooks	for me
21:24	soulHooks	please
21:24		snaplockSunblood PMs ventricularPipefitter (How is it not?)
21:24	dreamSilentAnswer	Have you ever seen either of us be that selfish?
21:24	dreamSilentAnswer	Once?
21:25	dreamSilentAnswer	Even before we talked to you?
21:25	dreamSilentAnswer	I read that log, you know
21:25	soulHooks	i
21:25	dreamSilentAnswer	You also talked up another thing in there
21:25	dreamSilentAnswer	Choices
21:25	dreamSilentAnswer	You were big on choices that day
21:25	dreamSilentAnswer	On us being able to make them, and the choices mattering
21:26	soulHooks	but i never wanted you to make this one
21:26	tenaciousTheseus	Sadistic choices pop up a lot
21:26	tenaciousTheseus	No  one likes this
21:26	tenaciousTheseus	No one wanted it to come down to this
21:27	tenaciousTheseus	But all our attempts to find a way out have failed
21:27	dreamSilentAnswer	Actually
21:27	dreamSilentAnswer	I still have one choice left
21:29	snaplockSunblood	Oh fuck what are you gonna do now?
21:29	soulHooks	what is it?
21:30	tenaciousTheseus	What happens when someone dies?
21:30	tenaciousTheseus	And Ascends?
21:31	tenaciousTheseus	The dreamself and the waking self become one
21:31	tenaciousTheseus	it's never been much of a change, really
21:31	dreamSilentAnswer	No. That's... not an option
21:31	tenaciousTheseus	But
21:31	tenaciousTheseus	Oh?
21:31	tenaciousTheseus	Hm
21:31	dreamSilentAnswer	Awake me  actually tried that
21:31	dreamSilentAnswer	TWICE
21:31	dreamSilentAnswer	in branch timeliens
21:31	dreamSilentAnswer	Both times it just plain killed me and left her in the god tier robes
21:31	soulHooks	don't
21:31	dreamSilentAnswer	No
21:32	dreamSilentAnswer	I think
21:32	soulHooks	leave me hanging
21:32	soulHooks	silent
21:32	dreamSilentAnswer	The Choice Echidna was talking about
21:32	dreamSilentAnswer	Was which one of us it would be
21:32	dreamSilentAnswer	There's lots of prophecies saying that we can't both use the door
21:32	dreamSilentAnswer	None of them say WHICH of us will
21:33	dreamSilentAnswer	That's the Choice
21:33	dreamSilentAnswer	It might even be MY Choice
21:33	ventricularPipefitter	So. She's made hers. But you haven't made Yours.
21:35	dreamSilentAnswer	I have
21:35	dreamSilentAnswer	but not irreversibly yet
21:35	ventricularPipefitter	Mm. Unlike her.
21:35	dreamSilentAnswer	I think we both made that decision pretty quickly right from the start
21:35	dreamSilentAnswer	Took it as a given, even
21:35	tenaciousTheseus	Mmm
21:36	dreamSilentAnswer	So
21:37	dreamSilentAnswer	I know that's not what you wanted to hear, Zephyr
21:37	dreamSilentAnswer	or, well, anyone
21:37	dreamSilentAnswer	But I think that's all we've got
21:37	dreamSilentAnswer	And we're going to have to accept it
21:37	soulHooks	...
21:37	soulHooks	i
21:37	soulHooks	silent, i
21:37	tenaciousTheseus	Sigh
21:38	dreamSilentAnswer	I don't know why I thought a second Choice was going to make things easier
21:38		soulHooks 's computer has stopped being a computer
21:38	dreamSilentAnswer	Except maybe blind hope
21:38	dreamSilentAnswer	!!!
21:38	dreamSilentAnswer	No!
21:38	dreamSilentAnswer	You're supposed to be fine!
21:38	dreamSilentAnswer	Don't do this again!
21:38	tenaciousTheseus	Hm
21:38	tenaciousTheseus	Pipes
21:38	tenaciousTheseus	What does a Heart player destroying their computer in that mini BT sense look like?
21:39	tenaciousTheseus	Sand disintegrates, Void wipes out...
21:39	tenaciousTheseus	What does Heart do?
21:39	tenaciousTheseus	And is that a Heart computer attack, or something else?
21:42		grasshopperFarmer joined the memo
21:42	tenaciousTheseus	Hello
21:42	dreamSilentAnswer	Hi
21:42	grasshopperFarmer	Um
21:42	dreamSilentAnswer	Uh
21:42	dreamSilentAnswer	Oh!
21:42	dreamSilentAnswer	You're Eleria aren't you!
21:42	grasshopperFarmer	This is...
21:42	ventricularPipefitter	Hi, Eleria
21:42	dreamSilentAnswer	I...
21:42	grasshopperFarmer	Zephyr is-- yes, I am.
21:42	tenaciousTheseus	How's Hooks doing?
21:42	dreamSilentAnswer	ok I can't even be excited right now
21:42	ventricularPipefitter	Is he okay? Are you?
21:43	grasshopperFarmer	He's curled up and glowing pink.
21:43	dreamSilentAnswer	Pink?
21:43	ventricularPipefitter	Ah.
21:43	dreamSilentAnswer	What's pink?
21:43	tenaciousTheseus	Well
21:43	ventricularPipefitter	Heart is pink.
21:43	tenaciousTheseus	At least it's not black
21:43	grasshopperFarmer	And there's pink... thread? Between his fingers?
21:43	ventricularPipefitter	There would be.
21:43	grasshopperFarmer	I think he's crying.
21:43	ventricularPipefitter	He probably is.
21:43	grasshopperFarmer	Should I try to touch him?
21:44	grasshopperFarmer	I've never-- never seen a heart player do this.
21:44	dreamSilentAnswer	Don't let him hurt himself!
21:44	dreamSilentAnswer	He blames himself but it's not his fault!
21:44	grasshopperFarmer	He's not really moving.
21:44	dreamSilentAnswer	I tried to tell him but he didn't listen
21:44	tenaciousTheseus	Pipes
21:44	tenaciousTheseus	What is he doing?
21:44	grasshopperFarmer	What's he blame himself for?
21:44	dreamSilentAnswer	I don't know. Everything
21:44	tenaciousTheseus	Do you know what's going on in DSA's session?
21:45	dreamSilentAnswer	He thinks he's responsible for all of our choices
21:45	grasshopperFarmer	I-- I don't think so.
21:45	grasshopperFarmer	I could try to buff him.
21:45	tenaciousTheseus	Hm
21:45	tenaciousTheseus	I have no idea what Joy buffs feel like
21:45	ventricularPipefitter	No, you're pretty thoroughly in /Run/Hug/Drop Kick To The Head/ territory
21:45	tenaciousTheseus	But if they're anything like how they sound, he probably needs them
21:46	tenaciousTheseus	Oh
21:46	tenaciousTheseus	So
21:46	tenaciousTheseus	Which one?
21:46	ventricularPipefitter	Hug, if anything. Hooks is...well.
21:47	tenaciousTheseus	So
21:47	ventricularPipefitter	If we beserk trigger, it doesn't...really have a specific manifestation.
21:47	tenaciousTheseus	There you go
21:47	dreamSilentAnswer	Umm
21:47	dreamSilentAnswer	If he's going berserk
21:47	dreamSilentAnswer	Maybe you should stay away from him
21:47	ventricularPipefitter	More like breaking down.
21:47	dreamSilentAnswer	Even so
21:47	dreamSilentAnswer	He might try to, umm
21:48	dreamSilentAnswer	Force us to accept the deal
21:48	tenaciousTheseus	...
21:48	dreamSilentAnswer	I hope not, but he's been acting desperate
21:48	grasshopperFarmer	I'll... try hugging him.
21:48	tenaciousTheseus	Watch his hands
21:48	grasshopperFarmer	Tell me what's going on afte-- oh
21:48	grasshopperFarmer	god
21:48	dreamSilentAnswer	Eleria!
21:49	dreamSilentAnswer	If he looks like he's going to shiny you, run away!
21:49	grasshopperFarmer	ahhh oh gods oh gods hurts
21:49	dreamSilentAnswer	Promise me you'll run away
21:49	tenaciousTheseus	...
21:49		grasshopperFarmer sobs
21:49	tenaciousTheseus	Eleria
21:49	tenaciousTheseus	Let go
21:49	tenaciousTheseus	Walk away
21:49	tenaciousTheseus	You need to
21:49	tenaciousTheseus	Please
21:50	ventricularPipefitter	Bugger. He *is* externalizing.
21:50	ventricularPipefitter	Eleria? You with us?
21:50	tenaciousTheseus	Externalizing?
21:51		grasshopperFarmer sobs
21:51		grasshopperFarmer sobs
21:51		grasshopperFarmer sobs
21:51		grasshopperFarmer 's computer has stopped being a computer
21:51	tenaciousTheseus	That sounds more like a Heart thing
21:51	tenaciousTheseus	...
21:51	dreamSilentAnswer	DO SOMETHING!
21:52	tenaciousTheseus	I think I might be able to do something, but
21:52	dreamSilentAnswer	I don't care if I die, just do something!
21:52	dreamSilentAnswer	Save her!
21:52	tenaciousTheseus	 /Fuck/
21:52	tenaciousTheseus	What can we do? The connection is cut!
21:52	tenaciousTheseus	Argh
21:53	dreamSilentAnswer	Do we know anyone else in their session?
21:53	tenaciousTheseus	There's Rosa
21:53	tenaciousTheseus	But
21:53	tenaciousTheseus	We are /not/ involving her
21:53	tenaciousTheseus	Hm
21:53	tenaciousTheseus	There's also Arvind
21:53	tenaciousTheseus	ping, numbMedicator
21:54	tenaciousTheseus	No wait
21:54	tenaciousTheseus	I think I misspelled ti
21:55	tenaciousTheseus	ping, numbMedictator
21:56	numbMedictator	WHAT.
21:56	tenaciousTheseus	Oh hey
21:56	tenaciousTheseus	Your coplayers need help
21:56	tenaciousTheseus	Eleria and Zephyr
21:56	tenaciousTheseus	Probably at Zephyr's hive
21:56	tenaciousTheseus	He's BTing and Eleria is in pain
21:56	dreamSilentAnswer	Stop him please!
21:56	numbMedictator	THEY ARE AT ELERIA'S.
21:56	ventricularPipefitter	Also you shouldn't touch Zephyr on account of him being emotionally contagious.
21:56	dreamSilentAnswer	We think he's going berserk and is going to try to mess up her shiny
21:56	numbMedictator	ALL RIGHT.
21:57	ventricularPipefitter	That second part's not necessarily true.
21:57	numbMedictator	I WILL TRY TO REACH THE APPROPRIATE GATE.
21:57	dreamSilentAnswer	Is that all we can do?
21:57	tenaciousTheseus	I can try something
21:57	tenaciousTheseus	But
21:58	tenaciousTheseus	Not sure if it will work or
21:58	tenaciousTheseus	Hm
21:58	ventricularPipefitter	Tens, you can't use abilities over the server.
21:58	tenaciousTheseus	Oh, I know
21:58	tenaciousTheseus	I wasn't thinking about that
21:59	tenaciousTheseus	Arvind, see if you can get Eleria to come back here if you can
21:59	numbMedictator	RRR.
21:59	numbMedictator	QUIET FOR A MOMENT.
21:59	numbMedictator	THIS IS DIFFICULT.
22:01	numbMedictator	FUCK.
22:01	numbMedictator	I HATE THIS SESSION.
22:02	numbMedictator	INCOMING TO ELERIA'S HIVE.
22:02		snaplockSunblood has left the memo
22:02	numbMedictator	THEY ARE GLOWING PINK.
22:02	numbMedictator	ADVISE?
22:03	tenaciousTheseus	Move Eleria out of the way, hug Hooks
22:03	dreamSilentAnswer	What aspect are you?
22:03	ventricularPipefitter	WAit
22:03	ventricularPipefitter	No.
22:03	ventricularPipefitter	Don't touch either of them.
22:04	numbMedictator	SPACE
22:04	ventricularPipefitter	Seriously Tens why do you think the same thing wouldn't happen again.
22:04	numbMedictator	I CAN TELEPORT THEM APART
22:04	dreamSilentAnswer	Teleport them apart
22:04	dreamSilentAnswer	Do that
22:04	ventricularPipefitter	Yes, please do.
22:04	numbMedictator	ALREADY DONE
22:04	tenaciousTheseus	I have no idea, okay?
22:04	dreamSilentAnswer	Err
22:04	tenaciousTheseus	I've never dealt with a Heart BT
22:04	dreamSilentAnswer	you're not feeling pink yourself are you?
22:04	numbMedictator	THEY ARE BOTH IN CONSIDERABLE EMOTIONAL DISTRESS
22:04	dreamSilentAnswer	we don't know if this transfers like corruption
22:04	ventricularPipefitter	They are. It's his, but she caught it.
22:04	numbMedictator	NOT PARTICULARLY.
22:05	dreamSilentAnswer	Are they both still pink?
22:05	dreamSilentAnswer	What are they doing?
22:05	numbMedictator	ELERIA IS NO LONGER ANY PINKER THAN USUAL.
22:06	dreamSilentAnswer	Oh thank skaia
22:06	numbMedictator	ZEPHYR APPEARS TO BE CRYING, FROM WHAT I CAN TELL THROUGH THE GLOW.
22:06	tenaciousTheseus	So, what do we do with Hooks, Pipes?
22:06	dreamSilentAnswer	But that might not mean she's ok
22:06	numbMedictator	HE IS HUGGING HIS KNEES TO HIS CHEST.
22:06	tenaciousTheseus	Leave him to cry it out?
22:07	ventricularPipefitter	For now.
22:07	numbMedictator	ELERIA IS USING AN ABILITY.
22:07	tenaciousTheseus	Will a Joy buff make things worse?
22:08	dreamSilentAnswer	How could it?
22:08	ventricularPipefitter	I know more about Flesh than Joy.
22:08	numbMedictator	SHE IS...
22:09	numbMedictator	USING [ABUNDANT LAUGHTER] AND [ASCENSION] ON ZEPHYR.
22:09	numbMedictator	HE IS GLOWING LESS.
22:09	numbMedictator	SHE'S STILL CRYING, BUT SEEMS MORE STABLE.
22:10	numbMedictator	ARE THERE ANY MESSAGES I SHOULD PASS ON?
22:11	tenaciousTheseus	Silans, do you want to say anything?
22:11	dreamSilentAnswer	Tell him I still don't want anything bad to happen to him
22:11	dreamSilentAnswer	Tell him not to hurt himself
22:13	numbMedictator	I WILL CONVEY THIS TO HIM WHEN HE SEEMS MORE STABLE,
22:13	numbMedictator	*.
22:15	dreamSilentAnswer	Oh and
22:15	dreamSilentAnswer	Tell him it's not his fault
22:15	dreamSilentAnswer	That one's the important one actually
22:16	dreamSilentAnswer	You can forget the other thing even as long as you remember to tell him that
22:17	numbMedictator	ALL RIGHT.
22:18	numbMedictator	HE IS CALMING CONSIDERABLY.
22:18	numbMedictator	... YOUR MESSAGE DID NOT HELP.
22:19	tenaciousTheseus	Sigh
22:19	numbMedictator	HOWEVER, ELERIA'S ABILITIES ARE FAIRLY POWERFUL.
22:19	numbMedictator	THANK YOU FOR ALERTING ME TO THIS EMERGENCY.
22:20	numbMedictator	I BELIEVE THIS CAN BE HANDLED WITHOUT FURTHER CONSULTATION.
22:20		numbMedictator LEFT THE MEMO
22:21	tenaciousTheseus	Silans
22:21	tenaciousTheseus	It might be best if you give Hooks his space
22:21	tenaciousTheseus	I mean
22:21	tenaciousTheseus	Look at what just happened
22:21	tenaciousTheseus	We don't want any of that to happen again
22:21	dreamSilentAnswer	Ok I
22:21	tenaciousTheseus	Not to mention enough emotional distress allows the Others to get in if they already have a presence
22:21	tenaciousTheseus	Which they do
22:22	dreamSilentAnswer	But what do I do then?
22:22	dreamSilentAnswer	just avoid him again?
22:22	dreamSilentAnswer	That'll make him worried too
22:22	tenaciousTheseus	We can tell him that you're doing okay
22:23	tenaciousTheseus	And he needs time to come to grips with this
22:24	tenaciousTheseus	I know you're trying to help
22:24	tenaciousTheseus	And this isn't your fault
22:26		grasshopperFarmer joined the memo
22:26	grasshopperFarmer	What do you know about all this?
22:27	grasshopperFarmer	What's he been hiding?
22:27	dreamSilentAnswer	He made a deal with the Others
22:27	dreamSilentAnswer	Tried to make a deal
22:27	dreamSilentAnswer	It was to help me
22:28	grasshopperFarmer	Oh.
22:28	grasshopperFarmer	I knew about that. I think.
22:28	grasshopperFarmer	My chest hurts.
22:29	grasshopperFarmer	I'm sorry, I didn't mean to sound accusing...
22:29		musicalDecay joined the memo
22:29	tenaciousTheseus	Hm
22:29	tenaciousTheseus	Heart tends to make chests hurt
22:29	tenaciousTheseus	Did for me, at least : /
22:29	ventricularPipefitter	You had a ham-fisted soulfingers, Adamn.
22:30	ventricularPipefitter	It doesn't hurt.
22:30		specificNihilism is back!
22:30	tenaciousTheseus	I did, I guess
22:30	tenaciousTheseus	He went back and fixed it, though
22:30	tenaciousTheseus	So
22:31	grasshopperFarmer	What was his side of the deal?
22:31	grasshopperFarmer	I though he was--
22:31	tenaciousTheseus	...
22:31	grasshopperFarmer	I thought his payment was just the corruption.
22:31	dreamSilentAnswer	...
22:31	ventricularPipefitter	That's not now it works.
22:31	tenaciousTheseus	No
22:31	tenaciousTheseus	Never is
22:31	tenaciousTheseus	Sigh
22:32	grasshopperFarmer	... I've never had to talk to them.
22:32	grasshopperFarmer	Sorry.
22:32	grasshopperFarmer	I--
22:32	grasshopperFarmer	Sorry.
22:32	tenaciousTheseus	No, no, don't be sorry
22:32	tenaciousTheseus	It's not your fault
22:33		tenaciousTheseus PMs "Everybody who isn't Eleria" (Should we tell her?)
22:35		dreamSilentAnswer PMs tenaciousTheseus: (Do we have a choice?)
22:35		stanzicApparati PMs "Pipes, silans, tenthe" : (Seems wrong not to.)
22:35		tenaciousTheseus PMs "Everybody who isn't Eleria" (That's what I thought)
22:35	tenaciousTheseus	He
22:36	tenaciousTheseus	His part of the deal
22:36		musicalDecay PM's tenaciousTheseus : (Would be best)
22:36	tenaciousTheseus	Was to twist your shiny
22:36	tenaciousTheseus	To what end, I don't know
22:36	grasshopperFarmer	... oh.
22:36	grasshopperFarmer	He hasn't paid yet?
22:37	tenaciousTheseus	No
22:37	tenaciousTheseus	At least
22:37	tenaciousTheseus	I sincerely hope he hasn't
22:37	dreamSilentAnswer	We still don't even know if he asked them for knowledge or action
22:37	grasshopperFarmer	But--
22:37	tenaciousTheseus	And whether or not the Others paid is still up in the air
22:37	grasshopperFarmer	Mmm.
22:37	dreamSilentAnswer	We never got to ask him
22:38	grasshopperFarmer	I could ask him now.
22:38	tenaciousTheseus	I don't think asking him is going to be great for his mental stability
22:38	ventricularPipefitter	Honestly?
22:38	ventricularPipefitter	She's got a right to know.
22:38	grasshopperFarmer	... He says that they promised it wouldn't fail.
22:39	dreamSilentAnswer	Ok so
22:40	dreamSilentAnswer	I THINK that means we're safe as long as we don't try it?
22:40	tenaciousTheseus	I have no idea
22:40	tenaciousTheseus	Others are notoriously tricky
22:41	grasshopperFarmer	He's also begging me to tell you to do it.
22:41	grasshopperFarmer	... It's to save your life?
22:41	dreamSilentAnswer	Yes
22:41	dreamSilentAnswer	Or my sister's
22:41	grasshopperFarmer	And the price is my soul?
22:41	dreamSilentAnswer	We...
22:42	dreamSilentAnswer	one or the other of us will die
22:42	grasshopperFarmer	... Go do it.
22:42	dreamSilentAnswer	No
22:42	dreamSilentAnswer	You're worth more than me
22:43	tenaciousTheseus	Eleria, we are not sacrificing you
22:43	grasshopperFarmer	I--
22:43	grasshopperFarmer	It's not sacrificing me.
22:43	grasshopperFarmer	I'll still be here.
22:43	dreamSilentAnswer	Don't argue about this
22:43	dreamSilentAnswer	You SING SONGS
22:43	dreamSilentAnswer	that REPEL ANGELS
22:43	tenaciousTheseus	Your body will be here
22:43	tenaciousTheseus	But you
22:43	tenaciousTheseus	You will be gone
22:43	grasshopperFarmer	I--
22:43	dreamSilentAnswer	How could I ever do something that'd make me more important than you?
22:43	grasshopperFarmer	That's not-- not something that--
22:44	grasshopperFarmer	Songs are n-nothing, anyone can sing, and you h-have the songs already--
22:44	dreamSilentAnswer	You don't even know what they'll want with you
22:44	dreamSilentAnswer	Maybe they'll turn you into a weapon or something
22:44	dreamSilentAnswer	I don't know
22:44	dreamSilentAnswer	All I know is I'm not letting them do it
22:44		tenaciousTheseus began responding to the memo
22:44	musicalDecay	Welcome back TT
22:45	tenaciousTheseus	Why didn't I think of that before
22:45	grasshopperFarmer	... Why don't you want to be saved?
22:46	grasshopperFarmer	You-- you have someone who loves you.
22:46	dreamSilentAnswer	And you don't?
22:47	grasshopperFarmer	I don't.
22:47	tenaciousTheseus	I
22:47	grasshopperFarmer	Unless t-the angels count.
22:47	tenaciousTheseus	No they do not
22:47	dreamSilentAnswer	Then you'll just have to look harder
22:47	grasshopperFarmer	... [Ascension].
22:47	dreamSilentAnswer	Because I know you're the important one here
22:48	grasshopperFarmer	I. Have never been important.
22:48	tenaciousTheseus	You have
22:48	specificNihilism	no one person
22:48	tenaciousTheseus	You saved how many lives?
22:48	specificNihilism	is more or less important
22:48	specificNihilism	than another
22:48	grasshopperFarmer	If I can do this to save one person.
22:48	tenaciousTheseus	No
22:48	stanzicApparati	THat dOesn't mEan yOu aRen't iMportant tO uS, ELeria.
22:48	tenaciousTheseus	I am not letting you do this!
22:48	musicalDecay	We are not going to trade off one soul for another.
22:48	tenaciousTheseus	Your music saved lives
22:48	grasshopperFarmer	I-- do not have to do what people tell me to do.
22:49	specificNihilism	no
22:49	tenaciousTheseus	How many of us would be here if your music wasn't here?
22:49	specificNihilism	you don't
22:49	specificNihilism	but
22:49	tenaciousTheseus	How many of us would have fallen to the Angels and killed in their name?
22:49	specificNihilism	sometimes
22:49	tenaciousTheseus	You saved me
22:49	specificNihilism	it's worth listening to others
22:49	specificNihilism	:<
22:49	stanzicApparati	ANd hOw dO yOu kNow tHat yOu wOn't mEet sOmeone nExt sEssion, oR a dOzen sEssions fRom nOw, wHo /dOes/ lOve yOu?
22:49	stanzicApparati	YOu sAved mE aNd mY mOirail.
22:49	dreamSilentAnswer	Look, Eleria, I...
22:49	dreamSilentAnswer	I can't let you do this
22:49	tenaciousTheseus	You saved us all from the Angels
22:49	dreamSilentAnswer	Because
22:49	dreamSilentAnswer	Because I know that awake me wouldn't let you do this
22:50	grasshopperFarmer	Stop--
22:50	tenaciousTheseus	None of us are going to let you do this
22:50	grasshopperFarmer	I--
22:50	dreamSilentAnswer	And if awake me wouldn't do it, then it's not the right thing to do
22:50	dreamSilentAnswer	right?
22:50	grasshopperFarmer	I can't-- be--
22:50	specificNihilism	may she say something?
22:50	dreamSilentAnswer	She's a good person, so if she would do something then I know that that's what I should try to do to
22:50	stanzicApparati	YOu aRe iMportant, ELeria.
22:51	grasshopperFarmer	I ʜᴀᴠᴇ ɴᴇᴠᴇʀ ʙᴇᴇɴ ɪᴍᴘᴏʀᴛᴀɴᴛ--
22:51	grasshopperFarmer	No! Shut up! Stop it!
22:51	tenaciousTheseus	Yᴏᴜ ᴀʀᴇ ɪᴍᴘᴏʀᴛᴀɴᴛ
22:51	tenaciousTheseus	Don't you dare think you aren't
22:51	grasshopperFarmer	I c-can't!
22:52		grasshopperFarmer 's computer was crushed
22:52	specificNihilism	:<
22:52	tenaciousTheseus	...
22:52	musicalDecay	sigh
22:53	tenaciousTheseus	Fuck
22:55	tenaciousTheseus	Nngh
22:55	tenaciousTheseus	Dammit
22:55	tenaciousTheseus	Bloodshake bloodshake bloodshake
22:55	tenaciousTheseus	Aha
22:55	musicalDecay	TT, are you okay?
22:55	tenaciousTheseus	...
22:55	tenaciousTheseus	Not going to dignify that with a response
22:56	musicalDecay	Sorry, automatic response.
22:57	specificNihilism	she
22:57	specificNihilism	it's
22:57	specificNihilism	been a long day
22:57	specificNihilism	do any of you need anything from her?
22:57	tenaciousTheseus	Nah, I'm good
22:57	musicalDecay	...I'm fine.
22:57		specificNihilism huggles
22:58	specificNihilism	she's
22:58	stanzicApparati	I aM oKay.
22:58	specificNihilism	going to go get some sleep
22:58	specificNihilism	she thinks
22:58	tenaciousTheseus	Take care
22:58	musicalDecay	have a good sleep.
22:58	dreamSilentAnswer	Goodnight
22:58	stanzicApparati	'Morning, spenih.
22:59	specificNihilism	ping her if you need her
22:59	specificNihilism	take care
22:59	specificNihilism	okay?
22:59		specificNihilism is idle!
23:00		mnemonicNecessity connects to the memo!
23:00	tenaciousTheseus	Hiya
23:00	musicalDecay	Hello MN
23:00	mnemonicNecessity	Hello.
23:00	dreamSilentAnswer	So should I go?
23:00	tenaciousTheseus	Nah, it's fine if you stay
23:01	tenaciousTheseus	I doubt Hooks is coming back tonight
23:01	musicalDecay	It's up to you.
23:01	mnemonicNecessity	Have I come in at an inopportune time?
23:01	dreamSilentAnswer	I just
23:01	tenaciousTheseus	No
23:01	dreamSilentAnswer	I don't think I should even be allowed to make that choice
23:01	tenaciousTheseus	You came after all the stuff is done
23:01	tenaciousTheseus	It's your life
23:01	dreamSilentAnswer	Choosing me or awake-me, that at least makes some sense
23:01	tenaciousTheseus	You get to choose
23:01	dreamSilentAnswer	But Eleria?
23:02	dreamSilentAnswer	I just
23:02	mnemonicNecessity	What is a life worth?
23:02	dreamSilentAnswer	I mean I know that awake me would say no in a heartbeat
23:02	dreamSilentAnswer	and I know that awake me is smarter than me and a good person
23:02	musicalDecay	and how much do you value it...
23:03	dreamSilentAnswer	So shouldn't I do what I think a good person who's smarter than me would do?
23:03	tenaciousTheseus	No one can answer that for you
23:03	mnemonicNecessity	Well, we can.
23:03	tenaciousTheseus	You should answer how you want to
23:03	mnemonicNecessity	But it doesn't mean anything.
23:05	dreamSilentAnswer	but
23:05	dreamSilentAnswer	Awake me keeps making choices on her own that she thinks are right
23:05	mnemonicNecessity	But?
23:05	dreamSilentAnswer	And I think
23:05	dreamSilentAnswer	well
23:05	dreamSilentAnswer	You've talked to her recently right?
23:05	musicalDecay	do you think they're right?
23:06	dreamSilentAnswer	So if I'm going to ever be better than her at anything, it's going to be asking for advice
23:07	mnemonicNecessity	Not necessarily.
23:07	mnemonicNecessity	Hyperboles like that are rarely correct.
23:08	tenaciousTheseus	Let's
23:08	tenaciousTheseus	Talk about something else