Stefania's obsession with Thacker-, Il_Shaman the vulnerable

EonEcho_
Stefania: The primary issuer of international terrorism is the USA, not Muslims.
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EonEcho
Stefania, you made some nice points overall about Trump's incompetence.
Stefania
EonEcho: not just Trumps, every politician in USA failed to do the thing they were hired to do
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EonEcho
Stefania: Yes, we live in a failed nation state. However, Trump is the most responsible and the most incompetent by far.
13:23 Stefania
well, he's just who it ultimately falls on since he's dear leader and all
EonEcho
It's much more than that.
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EonEcho
He systematically took steps throughout his presidency that made COVID-19 worse.
EonEcho
When he was provided the information on COVID-19, he explicitly took some of the worst possible steps possible.
Stefania
they all did everything they could to make it worse
EonEcho
False.
Stefania
there's not a single city or state in USA that did the right thing/s
EonEcho
Well, Trump's reaction was to spread anti-science conspiracy theories through the nation, coupled with shutting down key governmental offices to track and contain pandemics, coupled with praising China in January because he wanted to make a deal with Xiping to boost the American economy.
EonEcho
Trump never really improved from this level. He never organized a meaningful federal response. He constantly spread conspiracy theories, every day.
Stefania
Florida is one the hardest hit states in the entire country
Stefania
they did horribly
EonEcho
Some states, while starting quite poorly, such as NY, ended up getting a pretty good handle on COVID-19.
EonEcho
Florida's leaders are conspiracy theorists in the GOP, so yes.
EonEcho
The GOP cannot manage pandemics.
Stefania
show me evidence that democrats did any better
EonEcho
Authoritarian systems in general cannot handle pandemics, as they reveal weakness in Dear Leader, which is a deal breaker.
Stefania
there isn't any
Stefania
they did just as horribly
EonEcho
False.
Stefania
democrats are even more authoritarian, usually
EonEcho
Okay, now we're starting to Gish gallop some.
EonEcho
One claim at a time.
Stefania
getting numbers on Florida one sec
Stefania
almost 6000 deaths!!
Stefania
that's HORRIBLE
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EonEcho
Stefania: Democratic majority states were hit harder by COVID-19 early on it, it seems, for a few different reasons.
EonEcho
Then, those states generally outperformed Republican majority states in several key ways.
EonEcho
Then, Republican majority states got hit later and have responded considerably worse.
Stefania
taking the worst year and give me 5 minutes to run these stats
Stefania
it's not going to be good
EonEcho
Much of the COVID-19 outbreak in the USA, at this point, is concentrated in Republican majority states.
EonEcho
Stefania: In Florida, for example, they modified the law to help hide the number infected by COVID-19, especially at nursing homes.
EonEcho
In Iowa, under their GOP governor, they did similar hiding of the true numbers.
EonEcho
In general, there's been almost nothing like that in Democratic majority states.
Stefania
about 2380 deaths would've occured in Florida during the worst most recent flu season
EonEcho
Stefania: Why did you compare it to the flu?
EonEcho
Is Thacker- here?
Stefania
Thacker-: there's a way to cancel out overcounted data, there's no way to count data that doesn't exist
EonEcho
Stefania: Thacker- is a known peddler of conspiracy theories and white supremacy.
EonEcho
He is a terrible, terrible human being.
EonEcho
It is unethical for you to engage him.
Stefania
and both Florida and Texas were caught hiding the numbers and threatening hospitals
Stefania
Thacker-: it doesn't matter, you can cancel out overcounts based on historical data
EonEcho
His entire intentionality on this topic -- 100% -- is to obfuscate so as to provide cover for the fat coward Donald Trump, whom he worships much more deeply than Jesus or God, who had dementia and is a moron and so he couldn't handle COVID-19, revealing his idiocy.
Stefania
and you know what? that's another failure of the fed .. they never standardised on data, and when the WHO provided the advice to, they proceeded to ignore it
EonEcho
Stefania: I will put you on ignore if you don't stop talking to Thacker-, or if you don't explain how it is not unethical.
Stefania
so there's several more failures
Stefania
i'm losing count at a certain point
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EonEcho
https://pastebin.com/qekMrRqM
Stefania
Thacker-: the state said they would shut down hospitals that whistleblowed
EonEcho
https://pastebin.com/tbabdRUg
Stefania
yes
EonEcho
https://pastebin.com/bP1snBdh
Stefania
effective immediately
Stefania
they would be shut down
Stefania
and not allowed to operate in Florida
EonEcho
https://pastebin.com/tknSzwi1
EonEcho
https://pastebin.com/aypWKhRy
Stefania
i don't know
EonEcho
https://pastebin.com/XvpcrTGk
EonEcho
https://pastebin.com/3ZF8ubBR
EonEcho
https://pastebin.com/75Q0sGMp
Stefania
seems they all complied
EonEcho
https://pastebin.com/tSK73hFs
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EonEcho
Stefania: I put you on ignore for one month for engaging Thacker-.
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