lily blossom - Today at 4:31 PM
Something has come to my attention, and I'd like to discuss it with you.
Etheri - Today at 4:32 PM
oh?
You are free to :3
Has something happened?
lily blossom - Today at 4:33 PM
Yes, I'm curious about the whole thing that apparently has happened with DirectorBlack
I find it odd that there wasn't an announcement about him being banned, like there has been with others
And when I find something odd, I feel there's foul play at hand, even if there isn't(edited)
Etheri - Today at 4:34 PM
We don't announce everyone we ban :3
lily blossom - Today at 4:35 PM
But you do for those who allegedly do non-con hypnosis
Etheri - Today at 4:35 PM
yeah mostly
lily blossom - Today at 4:35 PM
Yet not this time
I hadn't even realized he'd been removed from the server
Etheri - Today at 4:36 PM
He wasn't really doing "non-con hypnosis.." he had issues with consent tho and he he was making a lot of people upset with his presence unfortunately
He was not a predator or anything like that
that's not the reason we banned him
lily blossom - Today at 4:37 PM
And, I apologize for sounding rude by saying this, but given you're now an admin of the server, and Lorixia is your pet, I almost feel there's some conflict of interest happening
That's not the story Lorixia told me
Not until I pried into her statement
I have, not once, had DirecterBlack push anything mine or Melly's way, either. If we asked him to stop, he'd stop.
That's why something feels fishy to me
Now I'm awaiting untampered logs from Lorixia. Thought I should talk to you while I wait.
Etheri - Today at 4:40 PM
This is what the ban reason is, it's something we all of the staff came together on.
"Makes an overwhelming part of the server uncomfortable, doesn't understand consent after 5+ people explained it at separate occations."
He's not doing it with malicious intent
lily blossom - Today at 4:41 PM
Yet not once have I seen that as an issue, nor have I seen anyone, except Lorixia, and only today mind you, be uncomfortable around him.
Etheri - Today at 4:41 PM
Let me send you some of what he's written to me, and it may explain why I feel very uncomfortable around him...
He's been like.. obsessed with me for some reason.
lily blossom - Today at 4:41 PM
Screenshots
I won't accept anything except screenshots. They're harder to tamper with.
Etheri - Today at 4:43 PM
I mean, sure I can give you screenshots but like, why does it feel like you are interrogating me?
lily blossom - Today at 4:44 PM
Because I am. I have trust issues when it comes to people with power.
Etheri - Today at 4:45 PM
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/391341641388130324/391344956150644749/unknown.png
For context the freakout was him like, having a breakdown after hearing a story about how good I was or something
He deleted those messages and apologized
Like, this is just logs
It's just got things he says to me that I feel quite iffy about
Like, all his random dms
lily blossom - Today at 4:47 PM
I don't see why that would make someone uncomfortable. In all honesty, it sounds like a lot of the people I know.
Most people you'll meet hide how they feel about something. Get them to trust you, and expect to become the shoulder they need to lean on. Especially if they feel like you're better than them.
Etheri - Today at 4:48 PM
Yeah
It made me feel uncomfortable though
I guess I can send you the rest of the logs from all of our convos
lily blossom - Today at 4:48 PM
And did you think maybe to try humbling yourself to make him feel any better.
From all that, your interaction felt more distant, and cold, like a queen before a subject.
Etheri - Today at 4:49 PM
I always humble myself, I didn't tell him any of what I did.. he heard something from someone else and then had a massive freakout, I read it and didn't respond before he deleted it.
lily blossom - Today at 4:50 PM
You could've still responded after he deleted it
Etheri - Today at 4:50 PM
I could have, but I'm not a kindergarten maid
Anyway, I don't think director black should be like on some watchlist or whatever
We just find he's not a good fit on our server
lily blossom - Today at 4:51 PM
It doesn't sound like you really cared about what happened. He was more like a fly to you.
Etheri - Today at 4:51 PM
You are correct, I actually don't care at all what happened
You can see that as what ever cruel thing you want dear
you can paint me in any light
but I have my reasons.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
lily blossom - Today at 4:53 PM
They aren't morally fair reasons, in my opinion. If someone feels bad, you should comfort them, in any way you can. I've seen what happens when you show animosity or come off as apathetic towards someone who's feeling self-destructive.
Etheri - Today at 4:53 PM
And honestly, I don't appriciate your demeanor, it sounds like you are condecending towards me because I'm doing my job?
Okay let me stop you right now..
"They aren't morally fair reasons,"
How do you know that?
I havent told you my reasons for not caring. Nor do I intend to.
lily blossom - Today at 4:55 PM
I'm condecending towards you because you're sounding a lot like staff who I've met. Who are not good people in any light. They backstab, they cheat, they abuse. The way you're talking reminds me a hell of a lot of them.
It sounds like you don't care simply because he's of no benefit to you
Or that he's just, as I said before, a fly to you
Etheri - Today at 4:55 PM
The only reason I'm talking like this is because of your hostile attitude in the first place though...
So maybe there is a reason staff react like this when youn speak like you do
and Imply I view everone like flys?
lily blossom - Today at 4:56 PM
I generally don't speak to them, Etheri
I said "he"
Specifying DirectorBlack alone
Maybe my views will be different if I knew your true reasons, but it's unlikely.
And you don't intend to share, so my views will definitely not be budging
Etheri - Today at 4:57 PM
That's not what I'm talking about though, also feel free to join the voice room and explain why you think I'm viewing everyone like flys
lily blossom - Today at 4:58 PM
Once again, I didn't say I think you view everyone as flies
Not once did I say that
The fact you're attempting to twist my words only strengthens my resolve that there's foul play involved in this
And I don't like it
Nor do I want to be a part of it
Etheri - Today at 4:59 PM
Well, maybe you didn't but it seems like you are implying I view him as a fly and then that you see other staff doing that too
lily blossom - Today at 5:00 PM
I didn't say that last bit either
Etheri - Today at 5:00 PM
so that kinda connects the dots of what I feel like I'm being told by you even if indirect
lily blossom - Today at 5:00 PM
When I said "other staff" I meant in other servers
Etheri - Today at 5:00 PM
"I'm condecending towards you because you're sounding a lot like staff who I've met. Who are not good people in any light. They backstab, they cheat, they abuse. The way you're talking reminds me a hell of a lot of them."
Sounds very insulting
lily blossom - Today at 5:02 PM
Being associated with the people whom you remind me of? I wonder why... but it's no where near as insulting as being shoved in the same group as Sophia.
You have yet to show me any valid reason to ban DirectorBlack
Etheri - Today at 5:03 PM
He's not being shoved in the same group as Sophia though!
I showed you the ban reason, he was making myself, and others on the server feel very uncomfortable.
lily blossom - Today at 5:03 PM
Yes he is. He's banned. And the belief amongst the non-staff is that it's due to non-con(edited)
It's not in violation of the rules.
If people truly felt too uncomfortable around him to have in the same server, they could block him.
That's a wonderful feature Discord adds
Etheri - Today at 5:04 PM
It is not, but we don't have to have a rule to ban people who make people feel uncomfortable
lily blossom - Today at 5:04 PM
Then there wouldn't be any "harrassment" in DMs from him
Because it'd be a shitty rule.
Etheri - Today at 5:05 PM
Perhaps, but level with me for a second
lily blossom - Today at 5:05 PM
https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/391341641388130324/391350099717914624/unknown.png
Have a log of my own
Not everyone is as socially adept as you, or most. Some have a hard time determining how people feel through text on a screen.
Etheri - Today at 5:06 PM
Just to make it clear, I hadn't played with Lori when this happened btw, I barely knew her at all.
lily blossom - Today at 5:06 PM
I'll admit, I'm one of them
It's why I will usually put a face at the end of my strongly worded texts
He was banned today, Etheri
Etheri - Today at 5:07 PM
What?
Banned today from where?
lily blossom - Today at 5:07 PM
He was in one of the chats this morning
Etheri - Today at 5:07 PM
I'm only staff in Mind overlewd
what?
we banned him like weeks ago
lily blossom - Today at 5:08 PM
Pretty sure, at least
His last message was 10 days ago
Which is when he left on his own volition
Etheri - Today at 5:09 PM
yeah he was banned 9th of december
lily blossom - Today at 5:09 PM
That's not "weeks ago"(edited)
Etheri - Today at 5:09 PM
A week ago then
lily blossom - Today at 5:10 PM
That's not even a week
6 days
Etheri - Today at 5:10 PM
Lilly
Level with me here
lily blossom - Today at 5:10 PM
One l
Not 2
Etheri - Today at 5:10 PM
I work my ass off, to keep this server running, most of the time you don't see the things that are going on behind the scenes
It feels like months ago
because of all the shitsifting I get to do...
But if you are going to heckle me for saying 6 days is two weeks
well okay..
lily blossom - Today at 5:11 PM
I'm aware. But there are better methods of dealing with people that make someone uncomfortable. Banning people for something unstated is not the way to do it.
It comes off as a show of power, rather than a just punishment.
You said it yourself, he didn't do anything wrong. He just made people uncomfortable.
Etheri - Today at 5:13 PM
Keep in mind, I wasn't the only one behind the decision
lily blossom - Today at 5:14 PM
"He was not a predator or anything like that"
"He's not doing it with malicious intent"
"Anyway, I don't think director black should be like on some watchlist or whatever"
Etheri - Today at 5:14 PM
We also banned Compu-Celebi partly for being annoying and bothering people
He was actually a bit dangerous though
But director black isn't dangerous, but we still don't want him in our server.
And it's going to stay that way, even if you think it's shitty
He was banned because he made people uncomfortable.
And people tried to explain things to him he didn't understand
lily blossom - Today at 5:15 PM
Then I want nothing to do with your server. I don't like staff who ban people because they don't want someone in the server if said person hadn't done any harm.
Etheri - Today at 5:16 PM
Good bye Lily