Dec 27 18:01:09 <Nervous>	First of all I would like to say thanks to all of you. Thanks for coming to the first meeting of leaders of the LAW alliance.
Dec 27 18:01:09 <FunkSoul>	I just downloaded IRC, took me 20 mins to figure out, came right in time
Dec 27 18:01:37 <Nervous>	The main idea of this meeting is how can we improve our alliance. We have the best alliance and we should keep it modern and with new challenges.
Dec 27 18:02:02 *	dimt (dimt@cit-DA28A8CA.dynamic.kabel-deutschland.de) has joined
Dec 27 18:02:09 <dimt>	test
Dec 27 18:02:14 <GanstaCJ>	passed
Dec 27 18:02:18 <Nervous>	I have some topics where we will talk about it and after that I would like to hear your suggestions and advices
Dec 27 18:02:36 <dimt>	if irc crashes again imnot gonna reconnect
Dec 27 18:02:48 *	Dusty gives channel operator status to Nervous
Dec 27 18:02:48 <Nervous>	Topic 1:
Dec 27 18:02:48 <Nervous>	I think that our alliance needs innovation. We should host more trainings togethers and making our alliance more interesting. We can try hosting more trainings and special missions togethers. Like 1 per week.  What do you think about it?
Dec 27 18:02:52 *	Dusty gives channel operator status to Chique
Dec 27 18:02:55 *	Dusty gives channel operator status to Prototype
Dec 27 18:02:59 *	Dusty gives channel operator status to dimt
Dec 27 18:03:35 <Chique>	Agreed. Just a simple training once per week shouldn't be a problem at all.
Dec 27 18:03:43 <FunkSoul>	Agreed.
Dec 27 18:03:45 <Chique>	Given all the member groups have a lot of trainings in any given week.
Dec 27 18:04:04 <Slow[AF]>	Commitment is needed by every single group. But don't make it a simple training, make it an interesting activity
Dec 27 18:04:12 <Slow[AF]>	that involves roleplay and communication into it.
Dec 27 18:04:12 <Tomukas>	ASAF used to do them every friday, worked fine until it just stopped at some point after a few weeks.
Dec 27 18:04:40 <Chique>	Main problem: People loose interest of everything over the time
Dec 27 18:04:50 <Nervous>	That's true
Dec 27 18:04:53 <Tomukas>	means they need to get something out of it
Dec 27 18:04:58 <Tomukas>	could be some sort of a prize
Dec 27 18:05:00 <Nervous>	But we should try and keep this rule of the alliance
Dec 27 18:05:09 <Chique>	That's why I am okay with keeping it "just a simple training", rather than something too interesting, which needs more effort, and in turn will be faded away soon.
Dec 27 18:05:10 <FunkSoul>	Mostly people login to patrol, after that they logout
Dec 27 18:05:10 <Nervous>	make a rule
Dec 27 18:05:25 <Chique>	I agree on the rule
Dec 27 18:05:27 <iKaLeD>	i agree with this idea as all of us know it's necessaryto show more contributions,more activities and more new things to the law side,i'd like to see the whole groups inside LAW alliance playing together,making evets together
Dec 27 18:05:30 <iKaLeD>	that's it
Dec 27 18:05:34 <iKaLeD>	events*
Dec 27 18:05:42 <Class>	Surely a simple training would make it more likely to die out? People think "Oh not this boring driving training again"
Dec 27 18:05:49 <FunkSoul>	Rule, elaborate a bit more, I mean if someone doesn't want to join then?
Dec 27 18:05:50 <Slow[AF]>	Indeed Class
Dec 27 18:06:01 <Nervous>	Depends on the group
Dec 27 18:06:09 <Chique>	Because it's not like 1 training per group, it's just 1 training for all the groups. Hardly takes 30 minutes. Steps are like -> Any host from any group starts a training, invites all alliance instead of just group. Easy.
Dec 27 18:06:09 <Tomukas>	In my group everyone is forced to do trainings
Dec 27 18:06:19 <Dusty>	Since you can not rely on people
Dec 27 18:06:26 <FunkSoul>	^
Dec 27 18:06:37 <Dusty>	I'd prefer if those trainings are assigned to specific people
Dec 27 18:06:41 <Dusty>	so they have to host it
Dec 27 18:06:47 <Chique>	^ good idea
Dec 27 18:06:51 <Nervous>	it can work
Dec 27 18:06:52 <Chique>	We can make it turn based
Dec 27 18:06:54 <MHP>	or a cycle of groups to be in charge
Dec 27 18:06:54 <Dusty>	we'd have some kind of assignment topic in our alliance board
Dec 27 18:06:56 <Tomukas>	week 1: SAPD hosts it week 2: FBI hosts it etc.
Dec 27 18:07:00 <Chique>	Like 1 week, SAPD should host, another week, FBI hosts
Dec 27 18:07:03 <Chique>	Tomukas spoke my mind ^
Dec 27 18:07:08 <Nervous>	Like we said some days ago HIQUE
Dec 27 18:07:08 <Tomukas>	gg
Dec 27 18:07:11 <Nervous>	Chique
Dec 27 18:07:15 *	Shadow (Shadow@E8794467.A1962371.78966E84.IP) has joined
Dec 27 18:07:36 <Nervous>	OK do you agree that we should organize like this?
Dec 27 18:07:43 <FunkSoul>	Agreed, imagine if a group can't really host it, all of them are busy in law scores which has a high possibility then?
Dec 27 18:07:43 <iKaLeD>	yes i agree
Dec 27 18:07:45 <Chique>	Agreeing to the group cycle.
Dec 27 18:07:47 <Nervous>	week 1: x group week 2 : x group
Dec 27 18:07:49 <FunkSoul>	the next group takes over it right?
Dec 27 18:08:00 <Tomukas>	law scores is a bit of a mess anyways
Dec 27 18:08:01 <Chique>	So it's like "Your group" has to only do something every 2 months almost.
Dec 27 18:08:03 *	Mousy (androirc@cit-F04FD242.cm-3-2a.dynamic.ziggo.nl) has joined
Dec 27 18:08:10 <Tomukas>	We need to stop worrying about those scores so much
Dec 27 18:08:16 <Nervous>	Yes and you have a lot of time
Dec 27 18:08:20 <Slow[AF]>	They should not fully focus on law scores. Hosting a weekly training takes nothing.
Dec 27 18:08:25 <Nervous>	if you want to organize an special training etc
Dec 27 18:08:27 <Dusty>	yeah fuck law scores
Dec 27 18:08:27 <Tomukas>	because it's making groups compete against each other
Dec 27 18:08:27 <FunkSoul>	Yeah Tom but that's 1 thing which pretty much can happen
Dec 27 18:08:39 <Chique>	I think we will come back to law scores point later.
Dec 27 18:08:44 <iKaLeD>	a Schedule
Dec 27 18:08:44 <Tomukas>	Personally, I send my group for like 3 hours to go and fight in the desert
Dec 27 18:08:44 <iKaLeD>	 plan is important for that
Dec 27 18:08:45 <Chique>	Right now discussing about group training
Dec 27 18:08:47 <Nervous>	Yes
Dec 27 18:08:48 <Dusty>	if it were for law scores, groups like Global army would beofficial
Dec 27 18:08:56 <Nervous>	USNSs do you agree?
Dec 27 18:08:59 <Tomukas>	GLA is official LOL
Dec 27 18:09:04 <FunkSoul>	really?
Dec 27 18:09:04 <Nervous>	what
Dec 27 18:09:06 <Nervous>	now?
Dec 27 18:09:06 <Tomukas>	it's L5
Dec 27 18:09:07 <FunkSoul>	._.
Dec 27 18:09:10 <Dusty>	like L9 official
Dec 27 18:09:13 <Tomukas>	oh
Dec 27 18:09:13 <FunkSoul>	L6 is official
Dec 27 18:09:19 <LeGe>	We can try, I agree
Dec 27 18:09:22 <Dusty>	anyways
Dec 27 18:09:27 <Tomukas>	someone should make the schedule
Dec 27 18:09:27 <Dusty>	about the training thing
Dec 27 18:09:28 <GanstaCJ>	I agree
Dec 27 18:09:30 <Tomukas>	or we can just do it now
Dec 27 18:09:40 <iKaLeD>	guys i can't read 15178 msg,why we don't talk 1 by 1?
Dec 27 18:09:40 <Dusty>	is there a way we can work this out beyond IRC?
Dec 27 18:09:44 <Chique>	Yeah just make it alphabetical order, easy.
Dec 27 18:09:51 <Chique>	Start from January 2018
Dec 27 18:09:57 <FunkSoul>	Make a topic on law board?
Dec 27 18:09:58 <Nervous>	Alright
Dec 27 18:10:00 <MHP>	assign 2 persons to make the schedule, done
Dec 27 18:10:05 <Nervous>	Yes Funk probably
Dec 27 18:10:06 <Tomukas>	Chique and nervous?
Dec 27 18:10:14 <Chique>	Alliance board, yes. So groups should report in that topic after a training is done every week.
Dec 27 18:10:16 <Nervous>	do what
Dec 27 18:10:31 <Chique>	It's like a common training report topic we all have in our groups.
Dec 27 18:10:39 <MHP>	also it might be obvious, but the group to host the alliance training should probably prepare at least 2 hosts, in case someone doesnt make it for some reaosn
Dec 27 18:10:43 <Shadow>	You need a good report, hosting such thing with 10+ cop name is annoying
Dec 27 18:11:02 <Nervous>	yes with 500+ words
Dec 27 18:11:08 <Nervous>	not 500 but a few
Dec 27 18:11:11 <FunkSoul>	too much? D:
Dec 27 18:11:13 <Chique>	Why would you need so many words though?
Dec 27 18:11:16 <FunkSoul>	^
Dec 27 18:11:23 <Chique>	What is needed is just a short explanation of what was done, and list of names
Dec 27 18:11:26 <Nervous>	not 500 but with motivation
Dec 27 18:11:28 <Chique>	Or even SS of names of those participated
Dec 27 18:11:29 <Tomukas>	depends what you host
Dec 27 18:11:30 <Class>	So that would make it AF - FBI - SAPD - TF - USNS starting in the new year? Still haven't tackled the problem about the content of the training. It needs to probably be a heavily role play based one to keep people interested
Dec 27 18:11:32 <Shadow>	List of names should be List of groups
Dec 27 18:11:46 <Shadow>	instead of saying the cop name you mention his group
Dec 27 18:11:52 <Chique>	Class, since it's turn based among the groups, the groups will decide on the content
Dec 27 18:11:59 <Chique>	And every group is getting almost 2 months to prepare theirs
Dec 27 18:12:09 <Chique>	So fairly sure we can have 2-3 hosts prepared, and a good content
Dec 27 18:12:14 <Chique>	Should hold true for all the groups
Dec 27 18:12:17 <Class>	You'd like to think so
Dec 27 18:12:19 <Slow[AF]>	Then hopefully none will take 2 months to prepare a driving training
Dec 27 18:12:24 <Tomukas>	lmao
Dec 27 18:12:25 <MHP>	and no need to limit the type of training, let groups use their creativity
Dec 27 18:12:26 <Class>	Wouldn't be suprised ^
Dec 27 18:12:30 <Slow[AF]>	^^
Dec 27 18:12:40 <Nervous>	I agree with MHP
Dec 27 18:12:43 <Tomukas>	super driving training
Dec 27 18:12:44 <FunkSoul>	We should for real plan on taking LV once xd
Dec 27 18:12:44 <Chique>	Agreeing to MHP
Dec 27 18:12:48 <Tomukas>	2 hours long driving training
Dec 27 18:12:53 <Chique>	Why though?
Dec 27 18:12:57 <Tomukas>	lmao
Dec 27 18:13:03 <Chique>	Why not the same we do for our own groups?
Dec 27 18:13:05 <Shadow>	I'd like to work with Tomukas on some roleplay, we can also create some neat youtube videos advertising the server and stuff.
Dec 27 18:13:05 <Chique>	30 mins tops
Dec 27 18:13:08 <iKaLeD>	LV plan? is that important for our system?
Dec 27 18:13:09 <Chique>	Too long = boring as shit training
Dec 27 18:13:21 <Tomukas>	Shadow don't we have a video?
Dec 27 18:13:23 <Nervous>	Shadow you can make some publicity of the alliance too
Dec 27 18:13:23 <Tomukas>	of ASAF training
Dec 27 18:13:24 <FunkSoul>	kaled, according to groups system turfing is a must
Dec 27 18:13:25 <Tomukas>	you made one
Dec 27 18:13:36 <Mousy>	I think the subjective is that there will be a monthly training by one of the official law groups, am I correct? I joined later.
Dec 27 18:13:37 <Tomukas>	the massive convoy
Dec 27 18:13:41 <Prototype>	What LV plan? Who will go to LV anyway
Dec 27 18:13:52 <Shadow>	its an old video, I think a new one would be better
Dec 27 18:13:54 <iKaLeD>	i don't support LV here
Dec 27 18:13:59 <MHP>	WWEKLY*
Dec 27 18:14:01 <Chique>	Ye, it could be a RP based turfing mission, massive convoy, protect the VIP type of RP, and so on.
Dec 27 18:14:06 <Nervous>	Ok let's try to focus on the topic
Dec 27 18:14:11 <Tomukas>	RP and turfing doesn't work together
Dec 27 18:14:12 <Nervous>	1 training per week
Dec 27 18:14:19 <Mousy>	Weekly @MHP?
Dec 27 18:14:20 <Tomukas>	RP is too slow for turfing
Dec 27 18:14:21 <MHP>	yes
Dec 27 18:14:27 <Shadow>	I also can help do some protect the president using EM panel and stuff
Dec 27 18:14:33 <Chique>	You guys are confusing hardcore RP with Semi-RP
Dec 27 18:14:42 <FunkSoul>	^
Dec 27 18:14:43 <Tomukas>	There is an important announcement from TF by the way.
Dec 27 18:14:53 <Chique>	Going into LV with helicopters, regrouping, dividing into squads = this is semi RP
Dec 27 18:14:54 <Tomukas>	But how about we do a progress report from each person on their groups.
Dec 27 18:14:55 <MHP>	anything else on the weekly training topic?
Dec 27 18:14:59 <Chique>	You don't need to type /me in LV lol
Dec 27 18:15:02 <Dusty>	yea one thing
Dec 27 18:15:17 <iKaLeD>	or /do as well ^^
Dec 27 18:15:17 <Slow[AF]>	Just the way Tyler Durden hosted those back then
Dec 27 18:15:22 <Dusty>	how do we manage grades and stuff?
Dec 27 18:15:26 <Chique>	We don't
Dec 27 18:15:29 <Chique>	Shouldn't have grades
Dec 27 18:15:30 <Tomukas>	grades?
Dec 27 18:15:32 <FunkSoul>	no need imo
Dec 27 18:15:35 <Chique>	Can't be done for 50 people
Dec 27 18:15:35 <Dusty>	ok thats what I thought
Dec 27 18:15:39 <Chique>	So just names of people joining
Dec 27 18:15:44 <Dusty>	might also be biased
Dec 27 18:15:47 <Tomukas>	in the training explanation
Dec 27 18:15:49 <Nervous>	and unfair
Dec 27 18:15:53 <Tomukas>	just put like how everyone did in general
Dec 27 18:15:57 <Tomukas>	they did well/could improve etc.
Dec 27 18:16:01 <Chique>	And I don't know why everyone started going into the concent. Content isn't much of a problem. Even if 1 week's content is bad, we can improve gradually.
Dec 27 18:16:02 <Nervous>	Yes
Dec 27 18:16:07 <FunkSoul>	groups will compete then will cause hatred
Dec 27 18:16:08 <FunkSoul>	so no
Dec 27 18:16:09 <Tomukas>	Nervous
Dec 27 18:16:14 <Tomukas>	should we have an update from every group now?
Dec 27 18:16:15 <Shadow>	Chique the name of the participants is a pain in the ass, I'd say group names instead
Dec 27 18:16:17 <Chique>	Yeah, no marks, no grades. Just list of names.
Dec 27 18:16:25 <Chique>	Shadow, SS of people in a line.
Dec 27 18:16:28 <Chique>	Why is it a pain?
Dec 27 18:16:34 <Chique>	Not asking anyone to type 100 names
Dec 27 18:16:39 <Shadow>	could work, but typing each name eh
Dec 27 18:16:41 <Prototype>	I have to reconnect
Dec 27 18:16:43 <Tomukas>	not like we are going to get 30 people
Dec 27 18:16:47 <Chique>	Never said "type"
Dec 27 18:16:48 *	Prototype has quit (Quit: Always try to be modest, and be proud about it!)
Dec 27 18:16:50 <Chique>	SS would do
Dec 27 18:16:50 <Nervous>	Probably make an announcement in every group will work
Dec 27 18:16:55 <Nervous>	so they know
Dec 27 18:17:01 <iKaLeD>	group name is fine,why writing a big number of people who joined
Dec 27 18:17:07 <Nervous>	when the group is the hoster
Dec 27 18:17:09 <FunkSoul>	yeah rate the group overall
Dec 27 18:17:09 <Dusty>	https://pastebin.com/raw/u1KYVF2s
Dec 27 18:17:13 *	Prototype (Prototype@87E8A173.87EFC86A.C1BC138E.IP) has joined
Dec 27 18:17:23 <Prototype>	.
Dec 27 18:17:27 <Class>	.
Dec 27 18:17:32 <Prototype>	I am at x-chat now
Dec 27 18:17:36 <Dusty>	hold on proto
Dec 27 18:17:51 <Nervous>	Smoething else about this?
Dec 27 18:17:59 <Nervous>	dimit
Dec 27 18:18:01 <Chique>	Negative
Dec 27 18:18:07 <Tomukas>	it's dimt
Dec 27 18:18:17 <FunkSoul>	Negative
Dec 27 18:18:19 <Nervous>	Ok
Dec 27 18:18:20 <iKaLeD>	everything is clear i think
Dec 27 18:18:22 <dimt>	yes
Dec 27 18:18:36 <dimt>	because my irc kept crashing
Dec 27 18:18:42 <Tomukas>	Can TF make my announcement now?
Dec 27 18:18:47 <Tomukas>	make an*
Dec 27 18:18:50 <iKaLeD>	i have another idea about official LAW leaders meeting
Dec 27 18:18:53 <Dusty>	you can
Dec 27 18:19:17 <Tomukas>	So we wanted to this for the past couple months but we didn't really know how, now stuff is getting sorted.
Dec 27 18:19:21 <iKaLeD>	1 meeting per month for official LAW leaders is important too
Dec 27 18:19:28 <Tomukas>	TF decided that we're going full military.
Dec 27 18:19:41 <Prototype>	Please listen to Tomukas
Dec 27 18:19:43 <Tomukas>	Our job is getting changed to military etc.
Dec 27 18:19:44 <Prototype>	it is really important
Dec 27 18:19:44 <Nervous>	i have another topic
Dec 27 18:19:52 <Chique>	1 by 1 please
Dec 27 18:19:53 <Nervous>	tomukas
Dec 27 18:19:57 <iKaLeD>	listening to tomukas
Dec 27 18:19:58 <Nervous>	hold your topic
Dec 27 18:20:04 <Dusty>	no, let them talk
Dec 27 18:20:17 <Nervous>	go ahead
Dec 27 18:20:42 <Tomukas>	So that's about it, we're just getting changed to military so there is going to be less TF presence in LS.
Dec 27 18:20:50 <Tomukas>	Just giving you all a heads up.
Dec 27 18:20:53 <Chique>	Oh okay
Dec 27 18:20:57 <Chique>	Nervous go ahead to the 2nd topic
Dec 27 18:20:59 <FunkSoul>	how often will you guys patrol, 0 or a bit?
Dec 27 18:21:06 <Tomukas>	A bit as far as I know.
Dec 27 18:21:13 <Tomukas>	Since we spend all of our time in the desert already anyway.
Dec 27 18:21:17 <FunkSoul>	Fine then, don't really exclude out of LS
Dec 27 18:21:19 <Dusty>	true
Dec 27 18:21:23 <iKaLeD>	excuse me tomukas but the law score ?
Dec 27 18:21:26 <FunkSoul>	Going Military is fine then
Dec 27 18:21:35 <Chique>	What about the law score?
Dec 27 18:21:35 <Tomukas>	we're not following that anymore
Dec 27 18:21:50 <Prototype>	That means there will be another place for Military in CIT. It is a global update, not only in group
Dec 27 18:21:53 <FunkSoul>	IronMan suggested Military score, have a look at that topic afaik
Dec 27 18:21:55 <iKaLeD>	staffs might warn you to take care of it maybe?
Dec 27 18:22:09 <Mousy>	Military s ore
Dec 27 18:22:12 <Tomukas>	law scores is a pile of ---- anyway
Dec 27 18:22:16 <Tomukas>	To be honest.
Dec 27 18:22:18 <Nervous>	We all want to wish you good luck
Dec 27 18:22:18 <Chique>	Yeah so all questions are answered ^
Dec 27 18:22:21 <Nervous>	and we are here of course
Dec 27 18:22:22 <Tomukas>	Good groups got demoted for not getting the score.
Dec 27 18:22:35 <FunkSoul>	yeah, shit system
Dec 27 18:22:43 <iKaLeD>	yes i have noticed that
Dec 27 18:22:44 <Nervous>	ok
Dec 27 18:22:49 <Mousy>	Military score, what is the difference with law score? Just AF and USNS fighting for n1 place?
Dec 27 18:22:51 <Dusty>	to be fair, law score is as odd as them expecting us to turf
Dec 27 18:23:00 <FunkSoul>	^^^^
Dec 27 18:23:02 <Chique>	Mousy it'll be based on Rebel vs Military turfs
Dec 27 18:23:25 <Mousy>	?
Dec 27 18:23:26 <Randp>	can someone explain me the importance of these law scores and why everyone keeps talking about them as if they are god?
Dec 27 18:23:28 <Class>	Got to fight them 4 rebels online o.O
Dec 27 18:23:31 <Tomukas>	And there will be groups moving over to Rebels
Dec 27 18:23:34 <Chique>	Same question Randp
Dec 27 18:23:42 <MHP>	fuck law scores ay
Dec 27 18:23:45 <Chique>	I have 0 clue, and 0 respect to people who keeps saying "I got the APB"
Dec 27 18:23:47 <Chique>	0 fucks given
Dec 27 18:23:53 <Mousy>	^
Dec 27 18:23:55 <Tomukas>	APB HUNTER TOMUKAS 11-55
Dec 27 18:23:56 <Nervous>	Topic 2:
Dec 27 18:23:56 <Nervous>	I want to do a call to the unification of this alliance. This means that we should keep more meetings between us. This will make an strong relation between us. Do you agree with it?
Dec 27 18:23:56 <Tomukas>	lmao
Dec 27 18:23:57 <Randp>	wtf is all the fuss about
Dec 27 18:23:59 <Slow[AF]>	None randpy, just a shitty mindset that has evolved throughout this year
Dec 27 18:24:01 <iKaLeD>	blackwolf's word
Dec 27 18:24:02 <Randp>	whats law scores lol
Dec 27 18:24:11 <Shadow>	APB HUNTER is here
Dec 27 18:24:15 <iKaLeD>	lol
Dec 27 18:24:16 <FunkSoul>	Randp, it aint good, it's just what some law groups focus on these days
Dec 27 18:24:23 <Chique>	Nervous I would like an IG meeting instead. See we all are online here, so why can't we make this a thing every month IG?
Dec 27 18:24:31 <FunkSoul>	you get good law scores> you get promoted... pathetic
Dec 27 18:24:34 <Chique>	In a government looking interior, more RP.
Dec 27 18:24:42 <Randp>	okay that's obvious
Dec 27 18:24:45 <Nervous>	Yes it can work Chique
Dec 27 18:24:47 <Dusty>	I don't mind
Dec 27 18:24:52 <Tomukas>	satffs monitor our activity via law scores
Dec 27 18:24:54 <Tomukas>	which is crap
Dec 27 18:24:58 <FunkSoul>	yeah tom
Dec 27 18:24:59 <Nervous>	please:
Dec 27 18:25:01 <Nervous>	I want to do a call to the unification of this alliance. This means that we should keep more meetings between us. This will make an strong relation between us. Do you agree with it?
Dec 27 18:25:06 <Randp>	but do they check law scores so strictly that you all keep talking about it?
Dec 27 18:25:06 <Chique>	(Guys law score related stuff can be discussed later, it's sort of a suggestion / changes to CIT, not related to our Alliance meeting)
Dec 27 18:25:10 <LeGe>	they will start doing the same via military scores sooner or later tom
Dec 27 18:25:28 <MHP>	lets move to Nervous' topic
Dec 27 18:25:43 <Chique>	^
Dec 27 18:25:47 <Tomukas>	More meetings like these would be good yeah.
Dec 27 18:25:51 <Tomukas>	Every month or so.
Dec 27 18:25:51 <Nervous>	more meetings guys
Dec 27 18:25:53 <Chique>	IG or IRC?
Dec 27 18:25:54 <FunkSoul>	Arent we already united? xd
Dec 27 18:25:57 <iKaLeD>	as i said 1 meeting per month is good
Dec 27 18:26:08 <FunkSoul>	agrred^
Dec 27 18:26:11 <FunkSoul>	agreed*
Dec 27 18:26:11 <LeGe>	^
Dec 27 18:26:13 <Prototype>	Once 3 months maybe?
Dec 27 18:26:14 <Dusty>	I don't mind ingame meetings
Dec 27 18:26:14 <Nervous>	depends it can be IG too
Dec 27 18:26:21 <FunkSoul>	no, per month would be nice
Dec 27 18:26:21 <Prototype>	1 month passes so fast
Dec 27 18:26:23 <Nervous>	more real
Dec 27 18:26:24 <Prototype>	Alright
Dec 27 18:26:26 <Tomukas>	1 meeting every season? nah
Dec 27 18:26:26 <iKaLeD>	IRC is better than IG chique
Dec 27 18:26:26 <Chique>	Agreeing to Once in 3 months
Dec 27 18:26:34 <FunkSoul>	:o
Dec 27 18:26:36 <Chique>	People saying once every month will not be here after 6 months
Dec 27 18:26:42 <Chique>	Because "got bored"
Dec 27 18:26:45 <FunkSoul>	okay 3 months, I'm fine as long as we keep on meeting lol
Dec 27 18:26:46 <Class>	6 weeks?
Dec 27 18:26:49 <Nervous>	once in 3 months and we can make more if the topic is very important or urgent
Dec 27 18:26:55 <dimt>	people saying 1 training per week will not be here anymore in 3 weeks
Dec 27 18:26:56 <Chique>	^
Dec 27 18:27:01 <MHP>	I mean meetings are great and all. But maybe we should also learn to utilize our shared alliance board for actually making these types of announcements and decisions
Dec 27 18:27:13 <FunkSoul>	that^
Dec 27 18:27:26 <Nervous>	Yes MHP
Dec 27 18:27:29 <Nervous>	I agree too.
Dec 27 18:27:31 <MHP>	dont have to hold up 5 topics for a meeting when we could deal with them gradually on forum where people can post replies whenever they have time across whatever timezone
Dec 27 18:27:36 <FunkSoul>	the law alliance board isn't used that much, we should pretty much focus on that too
Dec 27 18:27:51 <Nervous>	make it more active
Dec 27 18:27:53 <Chique>	And do what?
Dec 27 18:27:56 <Chique>	Chat spams?
Dec 27 18:28:02 <Nervous>	trivia games
Dec 27 18:28:06 <Nervous>	no joke
Dec 27 18:28:07 <Chique>	-_-
Dec 27 18:28:08 <FunkSoul>	trainings, meeting dates? xd
Dec 27 18:28:11 <MHP>	not saying no to meetings, meetings create some cool shared experience too, but combining that with better use of our board = WIN WIN WIN
Dec 27 18:28:15 <Chique>	Training topic is the best idea I got from this meeting so far
Dec 27 18:28:20 <Slow[AF]>	How will that fully raise the activity on that board Funk?
Dec 27 18:28:29 <iKaLeD>	what else you can put into law alliance board,just meeting,chatting or training
Dec 27 18:28:42 <Chique>	^
Dec 27 18:28:48 <Nervous>	What about if we make a roster
Dec 27 18:28:54 <FunkSoul>	already have one?
Dec 27 18:28:59 <Chique>	Roster for what?
Dec 27 18:29:03 <Tomukas>	no one uses chat topics on alliance boards
Dec 27 18:29:06 <GanstaCJ>	that'll take a billion years lol
Dec 27 18:29:06 <MHP>	when you wanna introduce a new idea, ask opinions, make announcements u can make a topic, instead of saving it till the next meeting (potetially months in the future)
Dec 27 18:29:19 <Chique>	So a Training topic, Suggestions topic
Dec 27 18:29:21 <Prototype>	Let's talk about Blacklist stuff maybe?
Dec 27 18:29:24 <FunkSoul>	ask opinions is a good one
Dec 27 18:29:24 <iKaLeD>	a waste of time ^^ if we add roster
Dec 27 18:29:26 <Nervous>	yes proto
Dec 27 18:29:32 <GanstaCJ>	isn't the BL already active though
Dec 27 18:29:33 <Nervous>	Prototype that's my 3rd topic
Dec 27 18:29:45 <Chique>	So this topic is closed I guess?
Dec 27 18:29:45 <FunkSoul>	events?
Dec 27 18:29:49 <Nervous>	wait
Dec 27 18:30:10 <Nervous>	meetings per 3 months or 1 month? VOTE
Dec 27 18:30:15 <FunkSoul>	3 months.
Dec 27 18:30:16 <LeGe>	3 months
Dec 27 18:30:16 <Chique>	3 months
Dec 27 18:30:16 <iKaLeD>	1 month
Dec 27 18:30:17 <Tomukas>	3
Dec 27 18:30:31 <Mousy>	3 months
Dec 27 18:30:32 <Class>	3
Dec 27 18:30:33 <Prototype>	3
Dec 27 18:30:34 <Dusty>	2
Dec 27 18:30:38 <iKaLeD>	LOL
Dec 27 18:30:39 <Dusty>	3
Dec 27 18:30:46 <Nervous>	ok 3 months
Dec 27 18:30:49 <MHP>	1
Dec 27 18:30:49 <MHP>	2
Dec 27 18:30:49 <MHP>	3
Dec 27 18:30:53 <GanstaCJ>	4
Dec 27 18:30:54 <GanstaCJ>	5
Dec 27 18:30:54 <GanstaCJ>	6
Dec 27 18:30:56 <iKaLeD>	7
Dec 27 18:30:58 <Nervous>	let's move to the 3rd Topic of this meeting
Dec 27 18:30:58 <Prototype>	...
Dec 27 18:30:59 <Chique>	We don't want your phone number
Dec 27 18:30:59 <Tomukas>	8
Dec 27 18:30:59 <Randp>	.....
Dec 27 18:31:01 <FunkSoul>	LOL
Dec 27 18:31:03 <Nervous>	wait......
Dec 27 18:31:06 <Nervous>	do not spam
Dec 27 18:31:10 <Chique>	This is what we do in meetings
Dec 27 18:31:17 <Chique>	Suggestions topic is much better as MHP said
Dec 27 18:31:25 <Chique>	Yeah move on to next topic
Dec 27 18:31:31 <Nervous>	are you enjoying the meeting?
Dec 27 18:31:38 <Chique>	The actual 2 points, yes
Dec 27 18:31:38 <Prototype>	Make it quick
Dec 27 18:31:38 <FunkSoul>	ye, hungry
Dec 27 18:31:39 <MHP>	if we want to do meetings we might also discuss the platform on which the meeting should be on, to maximize the organization of the meeting
Dec 27 18:31:45 <Prototype>	Topic: blabla. Decision: blabla
Dec 27 18:31:45 <iKaLeD>	could we talk 1 by 1 in the next topic? i can't read a lot of msg
Dec 27 18:31:52 <Nervous>	topic 3:
Dec 27 18:31:55 <Randp>	suggestions topic is good idea and stuff, until you start getting these stupid little suggestions and no one pays atention
Dec 27 18:31:57 <Randp>	to them
Dec 27 18:32:08 <Randp>	and the topic is dead
Dec 27 18:32:12 <Nervous>	The blacklist. Should we add more rules about it?
Dec 27 18:32:17 <Nervous>	or new stuff
Dec 27 18:32:22 <Shadow>	or more people
Dec 27 18:32:23 <FunkSoul>	example?
Dec 27 18:32:24 <Tomukas>	the blacklist is fine
Dec 27 18:32:29 <Chique>	As long as it's group vote based it's fine
Dec 27 18:32:30 <Nervous>	it's an open question
Dec 27 18:32:44 <Shadow>	blacklist is outdated i think
Dec 27 18:32:51 <Chique>	Outdated? as in?
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Dec 27 18:32:54 <Chique>	No one updates?
Dec 27 18:32:55 *	Mousy (androirc@cit-F04FD242.cm-3-2a.dynamic.ziggo.nl) has left (Stop-bericht)
Dec 27 18:32:59 <Shadow>	most players in it quit the game
Dec 27 18:33:00 <FunkSoul>	You can add people to the blacklist, no rules tho, rules are fine.
Dec 27 18:33:08 <Shadow>	or banned
Dec 27 18:33:15 <Chique>	If people quit the game, it's not outdated
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Dec 27 18:33:37 <Nervous>	Probably I agree that we can add more
Dec 27 18:33:42 <Chique>	more what?
Dec 27 18:33:43 <Shadow>	when was the last update, probably 1-2 years
Dec 27 18:33:46 <iKaLeD>	maybe LAW moderators not updating it
Dec 27 18:33:48 <Prototype>	add more what? I DCed
Dec 27 18:33:50 *	MousySAPD is now known as Mousy
Dec 27 18:33:58 <Nervous>	but due to the lack of communication between us makes it old
Dec 27 18:33:59 <FunkSoul>	Ikaled I was about to come on that topic
Dec 27 18:34:10 <Nervous>	more people
Dec 27 18:34:17 <iKaLeD>	as i see some law moderators should be changed
Dec 27 18:34:21 <Chique>	like adding more people to the BL?
Dec 27 18:34:35 <FunkSoul>	law moderators, active ones need to update the BL? Idk how the Blacklist system works. One group suggests, the others vote right?
Dec 27 18:34:36 <Nervous>	Yes, i'm sure that we can agree with some names
Dec 27 18:34:36 <Prototype>	Nervous, there is a topic for blacklists but still some groups don't use it and judge others just because they accepted their BLed member
Dec 27 18:34:42 <Prototype>	No Chique
Dec 27 18:35:10 <Nervous>	what are you talking about Prototype
Dec 27 18:35:16 <Prototype>	About BL
Dec 27 18:35:32 <Chique>	If your group thinks someone should be BL'd on LAW, post it on the topic
Dec 27 18:35:35 <Chique>	All group votes
Dec 27 18:35:41 <Chique>	Decides if he gets added or not
Dec 27 18:35:42 <Prototype>	But there is another problem
Dec 27 18:35:48 <Chique>	Is this followed right now?
Dec 27 18:36:03 <Prototype>	Let's say Ahmed is BLed in TF. (EXAMPLE). He applies for FBI and they accept it
Dec 27 18:36:09 <FunkSoul>	I don't see any group posting there altho many people deserve to be in that bl
Dec 27 18:36:13 <Prototype>	then TF is like "Wtf FBI what r u doing"
Dec 27 18:36:24 <Chique>	That shouldn't happen &
Dec 27 18:36:33 <Chique>	As the guy is not in LAW BL
Dec 27 18:36:35 <Nervous>	``````````^^^^^^^^
Dec 27 18:36:38 <Nervous>	^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
Dec 27 18:36:38 <Chique>	Groups shouldn't do that
Dec 27 18:36:45 <Nervous>	I 100% agree
Dec 27 18:36:53 <Prototype>	I agree about your case Chique. But some leaders take it so serious
Dec 27 18:36:55 <Chique>	If TF is like "wtf FBI" then TF should post on the BL topic
Dec 27 18:37:02 <Chique>	and request a LAW BL on that guy instead
Dec 27 18:37:05 <dimt>	in ASAF we have 3 BL levels
Dec 27 18:37:16 *	Prototype is now known as Prototype|AFKfor15mins
Dec 27 18:37:16 <FunkSoul>	yeah, not to kick the group like we did to DT
Dec 27 18:37:24 <dimt>	L1 is for the ones only the group cares about, L2 means that the other group needs to contact them about the applicant
Dec 27 18:37:26 <Tomukas>	DT was a whole different case
Dec 27 18:37:32 <Tomukas>	they would constantly not listen
Dec 27 18:37:34 <Mousy>	You're completely right, Chique.
Dec 27 18:37:39 <Mousy>	That's how it should go indeed.
Dec 27 18:37:39 <Tomukas>	as if they were asking for it
Dec 27 18:37:43 <dimt>	maybe it could be somehow useful for LAW alliance aswell
Dec 27 18:37:54 <FunkSoul>	Agreed
Dec 27 18:37:58 <Chique>	Agreed as well
Dec 27 18:38:03 <iKaLeD>	agreed as well
Dec 27 18:38:03 <dimt>	a list of ppl on which ppl should communicate before accepting, but not neccessarily fully blacklisting them from the whole alliance
Dec 27 18:38:04 <Dusty>	so L1 is basically the groups own blacklist?
Dec 27 18:38:10 <Chique>	But over here L1 won't make sense
Dec 27 18:38:18 <FunkSoul>	^
Dec 27 18:38:18 <Chique>	Actually 3 levels don't make sense
Dec 27 18:38:22 <dimt>	just making other ppl aware of whats going on  with the applicant and having a small talk with them so they have all rquired information
Dec 27 18:38:28 <Chique>	a LAW BL should be a global one, where the other group can't accept them
Dec 27 18:38:45 <Tomukas>	but checking every group's BL is a pain
Dec 27 18:38:48 <Chique>	And to have someone in the Law BL, the requesting group should request, all groups vote
Dec 27 18:38:49 <Tomukas>	we should have a main one
Dec 27 18:38:56 <FunkSoul>	agreed on what tom said
Dec 27 18:38:59 <dimt>	ik chique but there are some ppl like for example khazix
Dec 27 18:39:08 <FunkSoul>	^^^^^^^^^^^^
Dec 27 18:39:14 <FunkSoul>	that dimit, was gonna say that hh
Dec 27 18:39:15 <dimt>	who are not bad enough to be in the LAW bl but stupid enough that other leaders need to know about his stupidity
Dec 27 18:39:22 <Dusty>	lol
Dec 27 18:39:23 <FunkSoul>	exactly
Dec 27 18:39:26 <dimt>	so they can decide wisely wether to accept him or not, without forcing them to deny him
Dec 27 18:39:28 <Tomukas>	lmao
Dec 27 18:39:38 <Shadow>	word
Dec 27 18:40:00 <Nervous>	Do you agree to add the system of the ASAF alliance in the LAW alliance board?
Dec 27 18:40:02 <Dusty>	so this would ... essentially .. be an advisory list
Dec 27 18:40:09 <FunkSoul>	lol
Dec 27 18:40:09 <Chique>	I agree on 2 levels only
Dec 27 18:40:14 <dimt>	maybe adding a watch list in the LAW bl topic?
Dec 27 18:40:18 <iKaLeD>	i agree on all the levels
Dec 27 18:40:27 <Dusty>	I am ok with adding a watch list
Dec 27 18:40:33 <Chique>	Watchlist + BL
Dec 27 18:40:36 <Nervous>	i agree too
Dec 27 18:40:38 <Chique>	Watchlist = what Dimit said above ^
Dec 27 18:40:42 <FunkSoul>	watchlist, who's going to update that much?
Dec 27 18:40:45 <FunkSoul>	idk
Dec 27 18:40:46 <iKaLeD>	i agree on watchlist as well yeah why not
Dec 27 18:40:48 <Nervous>	mods
Dec 27 18:40:50 *	Dusty looks around
Dec 27 18:40:56 <FunkSoul>	and where are you going to get mods from?
Dec 27 18:40:58 <Dusty>	gg, not a mod
Dec 27 18:41:00 <Chique>	Mods who can do the work. If they can't change the mod. (Different topic)
Dec 27 18:41:00 <FunkSoul>	^
Dec 27 18:41:02 <Shadow>	Each mod should handle his group watch list
Dec 27 18:41:07 <Shadow>	and update it
Dec 27 18:41:18 <Chique>	Then shadow it's essentially all group BL once again
Dec 27 18:41:24 <FunkSoul>	nana, how about each mod on that board be assigned each duty
Dec 27 18:41:43 <FunkSoul>	some people for BLs, some people for that etc
Dec 27 18:41:57 <Dusty>	to be fair
Dec 27 18:42:02 <Chique>	As far as I've understood, your watchlist means group blacklists now
Dec 27 18:42:05 <FunkSoul>	but the blacklist topic needs some seriously active bros
Dec 27 18:42:10 <Dusty>	BL is pretty much the only topic that needs frequent updating
Dec 27 18:42:16 <FunkSoul>	^ that
Dec 27 18:42:20 <FunkSoul>	gg dust
Dec 27 18:42:22 <Chique>	?
Dec 27 18:42:24 <dimt>	nono chique with watchlist i meant
Dec 27 18:42:42 <dimt>	ppl who arnt fully restricted like ppl in the LAW bl but people which all leaders should be aware of (like grouphoppers)
Dec 27 18:43:02 <Chique>	So it's like our group blacklists, as far as I can understand?
Dec 27 18:43:02 <Nervous>	khazix
Dec 27 18:43:07 <Chique>	If Khazix is BL'd in SAPD
Dec 27 18:43:12 <Chique>	I suggest you guys all to be aware of him
Dec 27 18:43:13 <Randp>	thank you god nervous
Dec 27 18:43:16 <Randp>	really hate that guy
Dec 27 18:43:18 <Chique>	but not dangerous enough to be in Law BL
Dec 27 18:43:19 <FunkSoul>	same
Dec 27 18:43:21 <Nervous>	haha
Dec 27 18:43:24 <FunkSoul>	huehuehe
Dec 27 18:43:27 <Chique>	Is this what you mean Dimit?
Dec 27 18:43:32 <iKaLeD>	Khazix BLed in TF as well right?
Dec 27 18:43:40 <dimt>	this way all leaders have access to the information about an applicant who is potentially harmful, but still the ability to decide wether or not to accept
Dec 27 18:44:06 <Chique>	Dimit, I have some questions
Dec 27 18:44:08 <Shadow>	<dimt> just making other ppl aware of whats going on  with the applicant and having a small talk with them so they have all rquired information ---- <dimt> who are not bad enough to be in the LAW bl but stupid enough that other leaders need to know about his stupidity
Dec 27 18:44:11 <Nervous>	we all check serials and information about the applicant
Dec 27 18:44:17 <Nervous>	so it won't be a problem
Dec 27 18:44:21 <Chique>	Let me ask them
Dec 27 18:44:30 <Tomukas>	some people don't know how to check serials properly
Dec 27 18:44:36 <Tomukas>	you know I could just re-install MTA to change my serial
Dec 27 18:44:37 <FunkSoul>	Look, people who know the trollers should regularly update the BL topic then
Dec 27 18:45:22 <Chique>	1. If you want someone's name in the watchlist, it automatically means he should be blacklisted in your own group, right?
Dec 27 18:45:40 <Chique>	(Otherwise why would you want other groups to be "aware")
Dec 27 18:45:44 <FunkSoul>	^
Dec 27 18:45:47 <Dusty>	uhhhh
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Dec 27 18:46:00 <dimt>	probably but thats not rly the mainr eason behind it
Dec 27 18:46:13 <FunkSoul>	so technically, people in TF,SAPD,AF,FBI,USNS blacklist are in the watchlist?
Dec 27 18:46:18 <Dusty>	well, if you think said person is just a dumb fuck overall, but doesn't reall deserve a watch list
Dec 27 18:46:19 <dimt>	the idea is to help stopping ppl from hopping through the whole alliance before going to LAW BL
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Dec 27 18:46:33 <Chique>	So can there be a case, where someone is in watchlist (USNS requested), but not in USNS BL?
Dec 27 18:46:43 <dimt>	as u know the ppl in LAW BL usually have hopped through all groups multiple times already until everyone noticed what they are doing by himself
Dec 27 18:46:53 <Chique>	So can there be a case, where someone is in watchlist (USNS requested), but not in USNS BL?
Dec 27 18:47:00 <dimt>	well chique but when i notice someone who is hopping but wasnt in my group before
Dec 27 18:47:03 <FunkSoul>	One guy I have an eye on is JameS as well
Dec 27 18:47:10 <Dusty>	NO
Dec 27 18:47:11 <Chique>	Can we stop with the names?
Dec 27 18:47:12 <dimt>	then its rather unlikely that he goes to our personal group blacklist
Dec 27 18:47:15 <FunkSoul>	k :c
Dec 27 18:47:23 <Dusty>	khazix has to be the very first member of this exclusive list
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Dec 27 18:47:31 <Shadow>	lol
Dec 27 18:47:33 <FunkSoul>	ye
Dec 27 18:47:42 <Dusty>	even I remember this idiot
Dec 27 18:47:43 <Chique>	Dimit, so that guy whom you want to put in watchlist, has to be in some group's watchlist?
Dec 27 18:47:52 <Chique>	Can there be a case where someone is in watchlist, but in none's BL?
Dec 27 18:48:10 <Chique>	some group's BL I meant*
Dec 27 18:48:13 <Nervous>	Chique you won't find group's watchlists
Dec 27 18:48:16 <dimt>	well chique its pretty much just a list of names like for example "keep an eye on this guy he seems to be group hopping"
Dec 27 18:48:23 <Nervous>	^^
Dec 27 18:48:25 <Chique>	Please answer yes / no
Dec 27 18:48:26 <Nervous>	^^^^
Dec 27 18:48:37 <dimt>	mmh no i think they dont neccessarsily have to be in BL already
Dec 27 18:48:39 <Chique>	Can there be a case where someone is in watchlist, but isn't there in any group's BL?
Dec 27 18:48:45 <Dusty>	yes
Dec 27 18:48:52 <Nervous>	yes
Dec 27 18:48:53 <dimt>	just think of henry the extreme hopper, i think he wasnt in mine nor in SAPDs bl before he got added to LAW BL
Dec 27 18:49:00 <iKaLeD>	yes
Dec 27 18:49:03 <Chique>	Okay understood
Dec 27 18:49:11 <Chique>	So I was thinking of watchlist = Aggregation of group BLs
Dec 27 18:49:17 <Chique>	so it's not, that answers the question
Dec 27 18:49:19 <Nervous>	Dusty are you ig?
Dec 27 18:49:27 <Dusty>	no
Dec 27 18:49:32 <Nervous>	can you go ig?
Dec 27 18:49:41 <FunkSoul>	i expect a no xd
Dec 27 18:49:53 <Chique>	So what did we decide for this topic? A watchlist and a BL right?
Dec 27 18:50:04 <Shadow>	yes
Dec 27 18:50:05 <Nervous>	yes chique
Dec 27 18:50:10 <Chique>	And rule should be -> A group requests / Other groups vote. Voting decides the result.
Dec 27 18:50:12 <Class>	Sounds good.
Dec 27 18:50:21 <Chique>	Same rule for blacklist appeals as well.
Dec 27 18:50:26 <FunkSoul>	When will that group request?
Dec 27 18:50:31 <dimt>	aslo we need to stop removing ppl there all the time, especially so early
Dec 27 18:50:31 <iKaLeD>	yeah i agree,that's perfect
Dec 27 18:50:45 <Nervous>	who can add this?
Dec 27 18:50:50 <FunkSoul>	1 year duration for khazix was :fp: xd
Dec 27 18:50:51 <Nervous>	the watchlist
Dec 27 18:50:53 <dimt>	the ppl who get added there have been doing harm over a timespan of years, and then we try to remove them already after a few months, makes the whjole BL kinda pointkless
Dec 27 18:50:53 <Chique>	Dimit there has to be a rule of minimum time before someone can appeal
Dec 27 18:51:00 <Chique>	Otherwise every group has the right to vote whatever they want
Dec 27 18:51:07 <Chique>	And everyone has the right to appeal
Dec 27 18:51:33 <FunkSoul>	I agree with Chique
Dec 27 18:51:39 <iKaLeD>	appeal of BL removal?
Dec 27 18:51:42 <FunkSoul>	Ye
Dec 27 18:51:43 <Chique>	Yes
Dec 27 18:51:56 <Chique>	then make it like can't be appealed before 2 years from being added
Dec 27 18:52:02 <Chique>	or whatever time period ^
Dec 27 18:52:08 <Dusty>	<dimt> the ppl who get added there have been doing harm over a timespan of years, and then we try to remove them already after a few months, makes the whjole BL kinda pointkless
Dec 27 18:52:11 <Dusty>	which is why7
Dec 27 18:52:17 <FunkSoul>	2 years is a lot
Dec 27 18:52:23 <Dusty>	how about we make all BL entries perma
Dec 27 18:52:26 <iKaLeD>	they can pay for us to be removed from LAW blacklist or no?
Dec 27 18:52:31 <Chique>	NO
Dec 27 18:52:34 <Chique>	Wtf kaled?
Dec 27 18:52:36 <dimt>	nope kaled lmao we are not swat
Dec 27 18:52:36 <FunkSoul>	...
Dec 27 18:52:38 <Nervous>	no kaled
Dec 27 18:52:39 <Dusty>	but certain ones can be appealed after a certain time
Dec 27 18:52:39 <FunkSoul>	LOL
Dec 27 18:52:41 <Nervous>	you are crazy
Dec 27 18:52:44 <Dusty>	kaled u on crack or wat
Dec 27 18:52:48 <FunkSoul>	hhhh
Dec 27 18:52:48 <Prototype>	Lol kaled :D
Dec 27 18:52:50 <dimt>	right now the current summary is that khazix already caused considerable disruption in swat and tf (and probably mroe groups i dont knwo about)
Dec 27 18:52:50 <iKaLeD>	calm down lol i'm just asking
Dec 27 18:52:59 <Chique>	in SAPD too Dimit
Dec 27 18:53:01 <FunkSoul>	SAPD too
Dec 27 18:53:03 <iKaLeD>	i apologize,i was asking
Dec 27 18:53:06 <Chique>	so Khazix should be in LAW BL
Dec 27 18:53:07 <dimt>	wow really? i didnt even notice gg
Dec 27 18:53:13 <FunkSoul>	gg
Dec 27 18:53:14 <dimt>	nono it was just an example
Dec 27 18:53:19 <Chique>	keeps annoying the shit
Dec 27 18:53:22 <Nervous>	he was in the law bl
Dec 27 18:53:23 <FunkSoul>	^
Dec 27 18:53:25 <Chique>	Anyway Khazix is not the topic here
Dec 27 18:53:27 <Nervous>	idk if he still in the bl
Dec 27 18:53:33 <dimt>	or that other idiot who even evaded his LAW BL by using someone elses acc
Dec 27 18:53:39 <Nervous>	ok
Dec 27 18:53:39 <Prototype>	Khazix received extremely good chance to prove himself. We removed him from BL twice... Kicked once and let him prove him for 3rd fcking time. He still managed to screw it up
Dec 27 18:53:43 <Nervous>	topic 3. done
Dec 27 18:53:47 <Chique>	So what did we decide?
Dec 27 18:53:49 <Prototype>	Just wanted to say
Dec 27 18:53:50 <Nervous>	we will add t he watchlist
Dec 27 18:53:52 <FunkSoul>	lmao proto
Dec 27 18:53:53 <iKaLeD>	i have another person should be blacklisted,dimt knows him
Dec 27 18:54:02 <iKaLeD>	in LAW BL
Dec 27 18:54:03 <Nervous>	let's avoid talking
Dec 27 18:54:05 <Nervous>	of names
Dec 27 18:54:10 <Nervous>	we are talking about the system
Dec 27 18:54:10 <FunkSoul>	why dont you guys say that in the law BL topic?
Dec 27 18:54:11 <Prototype>	ye
Dec 27 18:54:25 <Prototype>	Can we move to 4th topic?
Dec 27 18:54:27 <Nervous>	we will add the watchlist with the BL list
Dec 27 18:54:30 <Nervous>	VOTE
Dec 27 18:54:32 <Chique>	I didn't understand the result of 3rd topic yet
Dec 27 18:54:34 <FunkSoul>	Agreed.
Dec 27 18:54:44 <Prototype>	What is watchlist?
Dec 27 18:54:45 <Tomukas>	agreed
Dec 27 18:54:46 <iKaLeD>	my vote is yes
Dec 27 18:54:48 <Tomukas>	lmao
Dec 27 18:54:51 <Chique>	Watchlist + BL list = agreed.
Dec 27 18:54:55 <FunkSoul>	Nervous summed it up, watchlist + BL @chiq
Dec 27 18:55:02 <Chique>	Question is, what are the rules? How someone is added? How someone is removed?
Dec 27 18:55:13 <Nervous>	that's the problem chique
Dec 27 18:55:17 <Chique>	So discuss
Dec 27 18:55:19 <Tomukas>	A group decides it
Dec 27 18:55:19 <dimt>	i guess when u can provide evidence that he is about to cause harm to the alliance
Dec 27 18:55:20 <Nervous>	when can we remove the name
Dec 27 18:55:24 <dimt>	repeated rulebreaker, grouphopper etc
Dec 27 18:55:24 <Chique>	Instead of talking garbage about names
Dec 27 18:55:37 <Nervous>	we will make some formats Chique
Dec 27 18:55:44 <Chique>	Ye that's basically a complaint report ^
Dec 27 18:55:44 <dimt>	anything which other leaders should know about before deciding wether to take them or not
Dec 27 18:55:46 <FunkSoul>	what will be in that format?
Dec 27 18:55:54 <Nervous>	proofs
Dec 27 18:55:55 <Chique>	So groups vote?
Dec 27 18:55:55 <Nervous>	names
Dec 27 18:56:00 <dimt>	i mean watchlist wont harm anyone its just giving other leaders some info they should know about
Dec 27 18:56:10 <Chique>	Watchlist is okay to be updated by anyone
Dec 27 18:56:13 <iKaLeD>	simply,groups can vote about it
Dec 27 18:56:19 <Chique>	What are the rules of BL?
Dec 27 18:56:23 <FunkSoul>	who will request it, from each group?
Dec 27 18:56:27 <Chique>	A group makes a complaint with evidences
Dec 27 18:56:28 <Nervous>	or a vote
Dec 27 18:56:30 <Nervous>	it can work too
Dec 27 18:56:30 <Chique>	Other groups vote right?
Dec 27 18:56:32 <dimt>	other leaders decisions dont get forced by a watch list it just lets them know what they wouldnt know wihtout it
Dec 27 18:56:34 <iKaLeD>	a vote imo
Dec 27 18:56:41 <Nervous>	SAPD agrees removing x guy from the watchlist
Dec 27 18:56:46 <Chique>	Yeah we are past the watchlist
Dec 27 18:57:13 <Chique>	Watchlist -> Add: Anyone can directly add. Remove: Voting by groups.
Dec 27 18:57:15 <Prototype>	Can someone tell me what is watch list?
Dec 27 18:57:21 <Chique>	Blacklist -> Add: Voting, Remove: Voting.
Dec 27 18:57:23 <Chique>	Am I correct?
Dec 27 18:57:42 <dimt>	or if you add a short time span to watch list
Dec 27 18:57:44 <Chique>	Watchlist = "A list of names to be aware of, who can cause problems"
Dec 27 18:57:52 <iKaLeD>	what do you mean by anyone can directly add
Dec 27 18:58:05 <dimt>	then its not needed to vote every time to remove something
Dec 27 18:58:14 <Chique>	So like a 6 months
Dec 27 18:58:15 <Chique>	?
Dec 27 18:58:18 <Nervous>	it can work that
Dec 27 18:58:21 <dimt>	see if i spot someone hopping groups then its mabye relevant for 4 months
Dec 27 18:58:35 <Chique>	Yeah so decide a concrete time period right now
Dec 27 18:58:37 <dimt>	if hes not hopping anymore and the 4 months have expired then it would be fine to remove without voting i guess
Dec 27 18:58:38 <Chique>	4 months? 6 months?
Dec 27 18:58:41 <Prototype>	Then watchlist needs to be checked regularly, at least twice or 3 times per week :x
Dec 27 18:58:44 <Nervous>	after that u will remove it without votes
Dec 27 18:58:44 <dimt>	we can still vote on permanent entries
Dec 27 18:58:50 <dimt>	well chique depending on their offence i guess
Dec 27 18:59:01 <Chique>	I think should be a fixed timeline Dimit
Dec 27 18:59:04 <Chique>	otherwise requires much effort
Dec 27 18:59:07 <FunkSoul>	6 months.
Dec 27 18:59:07 <Chique>	to check variable timelines
Dec 27 18:59:11 <dimt>	if osmeone left 2 groups in 1 month its maybe not as sever as someone who was in all LAW groups recently
Dec 27 18:59:17 <Nervous>	y
Dec 27 18:59:19 <Nervous>	3 months
Dec 27 18:59:30 <Chique>	I understand Dimit
Dec 27 18:59:40 <Chique>	but having variable time spans will be inefficient, slow to update
Dec 27 18:59:46 <Chique>	as multiple groups are involved
Dec 27 18:59:54 <Nervous>	we will check it per 3 months
Dec 27 19:00:05 <Nervous>	and we can make posts in the same topic
Dec 27 19:00:10 <Nervous>	we can mentions leaders
Dec 27 19:00:18 <Nervous>	and discuss about it
Dec 27 19:00:25 <Chique>	Uh, I was talking about, how long a person's name will be there from the date of addition
Dec 27 19:00:35 <Chique>	Before auto removal
Dec 27 19:00:40 <FunkSoul>	6 months imo
Dec 27 19:00:49 <FunkSoul>	4 is less, 6 seems fine
Dec 27 19:00:52 <Chique>	Which Dimit said "Depends", but I'll say "Should be fixed length"
Dec 27 19:00:55 <Chique>	Now you guys decide
Dec 27 19:00:59 <Chique>	I am okay with both
Dec 27 19:01:13 <FunkSoul>	5 then?
Dec 27 19:01:13 <Nervous>	Depends
Dec 27 19:01:18 <Chique>	ok agreeing to Depends
Dec 27 19:01:24 <Nervous>	i agree with Depends too
Dec 27 19:01:25 <FunkSoul>	depends ok
Dec 27 19:01:29 <FunkSoul>	agreed
Dec 27 19:01:34 <iKaLeD>	depends
Dec 27 19:01:35 <Nervous>	50% of this irc is sleeping
Dec 27 19:01:39 <FunkSoul>	^
Dec 27 19:01:40 <Class>	^
Dec 27 19:01:42 <Chique>	So Watchlist => Add: Directly by any group. Remove: Auto-removal after mentioned time period.
Dec 27 19:01:55 <FunkSoul>	agreed.
Dec 27 19:01:56 <LeGe>	there are too many people talking already lmao
Dec 27 19:01:56 <Nervous>	Yes
Dec 27 19:01:57 <Prototype>	Agreed
Dec 27 19:02:01 <iKaLeD>	yes i agree
Dec 27 19:02:02 <LeGe>	but agreed
Dec 27 19:02:02 <Nervous>	agreed
Dec 27 19:02:07 <Chique>	Now Blacklist => Add: Group complaints, other group votes. Remove: Person appeals, all groups vote.
Dec 27 19:02:08 <FunkSoul>	gg then
Dec 27 19:02:13 <Nervous>	I don't have more topics
Dec 27 19:02:19 <FunkSoul>	agreed.
Dec 27 19:02:25 <Chique>	@Dimit?
Dec 27 19:02:30 <iKaLeD>	can i state my idea?
Dec 27 19:02:36 <Chique>	sure I guess
Dec 27 19:02:37 <MHP>	sleeping cus of the topic
Dec 27 19:02:39 <GanstaCJ>	Wait, so now it's voting to add groups to BL?
Dec 27 19:02:40 <MHP>	blacklist = boring
Dec 27 19:02:40 <Class>	I kind of want a bit of elaboration from TaskForce if there's time
Dec 27 19:02:58 <Chique>	Gangsta what mate?
Dec 27 19:03:07 <Tomukas>	yes?
Dec 27 19:03:09 <Prototype>	What kind of elaboration?
Dec 27 19:03:09 <FunkSoul>	cj is a k1ng
Dec 27 19:03:10 <Chique>	We don't add groups to BL lol?
Dec 27 19:03:11 <Nervous>	the same voting ganstacj
Dec 27 19:03:21 <Nervous>	he wants to say
Dec 27 19:03:22 <GanstaCJ>	not groups lol
Dec 27 19:03:26 <FunkSoul>	cj ggez
Dec 27 19:03:27 <GanstaCJ>	I mean groups vote to add people to BL
Dec 27 19:03:27 <Nervous>	add names to the law bl i guess
Dec 27 19:03:30 <GanstaCJ>	My brain hurts
Dec 27 19:03:33 <Chique>	What I meant is, if SAPD wants someone to be in Law BL. We complaint on Law BL topic. All groups vote.
Dec 27 19:03:37 <Chique>	Does that explain?
Dec 27 19:03:45 <GanstaCJ>	Yea, sorry for confusing it hh
Dec 27 19:03:46 <FunkSoul>	yes, agreed.
Dec 27 19:03:47 <GanstaCJ>	my brain hurts
Dec 27 19:03:52 <GanstaCJ>	but I agree c:
Dec 27 19:03:56 <Chique>	jesus ok
Dec 27 19:03:57 <FunkSoul>	c:
Dec 27 19:04:00 <Nervous>	wait
Dec 27 19:04:04 <Chique>	Dimit is same AFK here as he is IG
Dec 27 19:04:05 <Nervous>	dmit can u add this
Dec 27 19:04:13 <Nervous>	dimt can you add this watchlist?
Dec 27 19:04:14 <FunkSoul>	ANSWER DIMIT\
Dec 27 19:04:34 <GanstaCJ>	I'll get him
Dec 27 19:04:35 <iKaLeD>	i have another topic to talk after this
Dec 27 19:04:35 <GanstaCJ>	one sec
Dec 27 19:04:44 <Chique>	Ye nervous if he doesn't I'll make the topic. So don't worry.
Dec 27 19:04:48 <FunkSoul>	brb ill get myself an orange then
Dec 27 19:04:50 <Chique>	Will also do the training topic.
Dec 27 19:04:56 <Nervous>	ok Chique and about the trainings per week
Dec 27 19:05:01 <Nervous>	should I take care about it
Dec 27 19:05:04 <Chique>	Will make the topic right after the meeting
Dec 27 19:05:07 <Chique>	Or if you want
Dec 27 19:05:09 <Chique>	you can sure
Dec 27 19:05:14 <Tomukas>	This is what Dusty posted
Dec 27 19:05:14 <Tomukas>	https://pastebin.com/raw/u1KYVF2s
Dec 27 19:05:17 <Chique>	Yeah saw
Dec 27 19:05:21 <Tomukas>	replied with*
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Dec 27 19:05:40 <Chique>	Needs the format code of the training after it, that's al is needed in the topic.
Dec 27 19:05:43 <Chique>	all*
Dec 27 19:06:01 <Nervous>	I will talk with Dusty about the topic of trainings per week
Dec 27 19:06:08 <Nervous>	Chique you will take care the watchlist
Dec 27 19:06:12 <Nervous>	with Dmit
Dec 27 19:06:17 <Nervous>	or idk who the fuck is his name
Dec 27 19:06:29 <Chique>	Okay, but anything left to discuss about Training topic?
Dec 27 19:06:29 <Nervous>	ikaled
Dec 27 19:06:37 <iKaLeD>	yes i'll state my idea now
Dec 27 19:06:39 <Nervous>	can i change my pc
Dec 27 19:06:54 <Chique>	Needs list of groups as Dusty already wrote + Training report code -> Fields are {hosting group, participants SS, explanation of training}
Dec 27 19:06:55 <Nervous>	coming back in 2 minutes
Dec 27 19:06:59 <iKaLeD>	about changing LAW Alliance moderators?
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Dec 27 19:07:12 <Chique>	Ye please do
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Dec 27 19:07:35 <Chique>	I suggest give moderators to people who are not moderators in their own group
Dec 27 19:07:36 <iKaLeD>	anvenger,Vandam and sick not doing anything as i see
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Dec 27 19:08:00 <Dusty>	good idea
Dec 27 19:08:03 <Chique>	This way people who are managing their own board won't have to spend time.
Dec 27 19:09:11 <Chique>	Anything else we are discussing?
Dec 27 19:09:16 <iKaLeD>	those people who are not moderators in their groups got experience how to mod?
Dec 27 19:09:28 <iKaLeD>	i don't think so
Dec 27 19:09:29 <Prototype>	Me for sure
Dec 27 19:09:37 <Prototype>	Nvm :fp:
Dec 27 19:09:43 <Chique>	Kaled then don't add those who don't have experience
Dec 27 19:09:46 <Chique>	simple as that
Dec 27 19:09:50 <Chique>	Add only those who can manage
Dec 27 19:09:59 <iKaLeD>	yeah
Dec 27 19:10:04 <Chique>	By managing it just needs updating BL topic lol
Dec 27 19:10:07 <Chique>	And maybe locking some topics
Dec 27 19:10:30 <GanstaCJ>	wait, why can't the mods just be a few leaders of each group
Dec 27 19:10:44 <Chique>	Because they are already managing their own group
Dec 27 19:10:51 <Chique>	This results in lack of interest moderating law board
Dec 27 19:10:54 <Chique>	as we can see right now
Dec 27 19:11:04 <Chique>	Which brought us to this topic, and you all shouting "BL is outdated"
Dec 27 19:11:43 <FunkSoul>	a
Dec 27 19:11:49 <GanstaCJ>	b
Dec 27 19:11:50 <iKaLeD>	do you agree to change the current LAW alliance mods?
Dec 27 19:11:55 <Chique>	I agree
Dec 27 19:11:58 <iKaLeD>	not all of them,the inactive ones
Dec 27 19:12:00 <FunkSoul>	ye
Dec 27 19:12:03 <LeGe>	yup
Dec 27 19:12:06 <iKaLeD>	such as vandam and sick
Dec 27 19:12:07 <GanstaCJ>	sure
Dec 27 19:12:17 <iKaLeD>	avenger too
Dec 27 19:12:19 <Chique>	And me too
Dec 27 19:12:43 <iKaLeD>	nervous? dimt? Dusty? etc..
Dec 27 19:12:49 <iKaLeD>	what do you think about it
Dec 27 19:12:52 <GanstaCJ>	dimit is afk
Dec 27 19:12:58 <FunkSoul>	....................
Dec 27 19:12:59 <GanstaCJ>	can't get his attention :c
Dec 27 19:13:07 <Chique>	pathetic
Dec 27 19:13:15 <FunkSoul>	pathetic
Dec 27 19:13:20 <GanstaCJ>	rude :c
Dec 27 19:13:21 <Aztech>	y get him out of here
Dec 27 19:13:22 <MHP>	pathalogical
Dec 27 19:13:31 <Chique>	@Nervous do we have anything else to discuss?
Dec 27 19:13:39 <LeGe>	nervous is not here atm
Dec 27 19:13:41 <dimt>	yes
Dec 27 19:13:45 <GanstaCJ>	Nervous reconnected
Dec 27 19:13:57 <dimt>	i think the moderators are rather unimportant as long as they are kinda active
Dec 27 19:13:58 <iKaLeD>	that's my idea
Dec 27 19:14:06 <dimt>	idk why avenger is even a moderator there
Dec 27 19:14:24 <iKaLeD>	asking my self the same question too
Dec 27 19:14:39 <Class>	Well it's always been the top leaders of each groups hasn't it
Dec 27 19:14:44 <Class>	So I guess he just got added over time
Dec 27 19:14:46 <FunkSoul>	ye
Dec 27 19:14:46 <iKaLeD>	he didn't attend this meeting as well,i have checked his post on forums that he will attend
Dec 27 19:14:47 <Chique>	Yes ^ that's why Avenger is there
Dec 27 19:15:03 <iKaLeD>	Vandam as well and sick
Dec 27 19:15:04 <Class>	Like not a big deal, past is gone and done. Just focus on getting em' changed
Dec 27 19:15:14 <Class>	They were added, they did nothing, move on and change
Dec 27 19:15:14 <iKaLeD>	both of them are inactive
Dec 27 19:15:17 <Class>	we get the point mate
Dec 27 19:15:18 <Chique>	Yeah remove them, also me. Give it to more active people.
Dec 27 19:15:38 <iKaLeD>	yes
Dec 27 19:15:52 <iKaLeD>	maybe creating a topic of LAW alliance board about it?
Dec 27 19:16:00 <Chique>	Sure, Kaled you can do it
Dec 27 19:16:04 <Chique>	By suggesting a few names
Dec 27 19:16:06 <Chique>	whom you think can replace
Dec 27 19:16:09 <Chique>	the ones inactive
Dec 27 19:16:11 <iKaLeD>	request to be added on LAW alliance mod
Dec 27 19:17:04 <iKaLeD>	i'll ask every trusted member in law alliance group about it
Dec 27 19:17:11 <iKaLeD>	he can take this role or no
Dec 27 19:17:31 <Chique>	So 1. Weekly training, 2. Watchlist + BL, 3. Changing inactive mods
Dec 27 19:17:36 <Chique>	Anything else I'm missing?
Dec 27 19:17:42 <MHP>	yes
Dec 27 19:17:48 <MHP>	you have to reveal SAPD's topic
Dec 27 19:17:50 <FunkSoul>	promting me
Dec 27 19:17:56 <Chique>	-_-?
Dec 27 19:17:59 <FunkSoul>	missed it
Dec 27 19:17:59 <Dusty>	hi
Dec 27 19:17:59 <GanstaCJ>	lol
Dec 27 19:18:02 <GanstaCJ>	hi
Dec 27 19:18:05 <FunkSoul>	hi
Dec 27 19:18:13 <Chique>	I want to ask about a proposition though
Dec 27 19:18:21 <GanstaCJ>	wot
Dec 27 19:18:21 <MHP>	SAPD will be renaming itself to SPUD
Dec 27 19:18:26 <Prototype>	is meeting over now?
Dec 27 19:18:26 <FunkSoul>	y
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Dec 27 19:18:27 <Chique>	What do you guys think of adding a group like "BNA" to the alliance?
Dec 27 19:18:32 <Nervous>	back
Dec 27 19:18:33 <LeGe>	wb Nervous
Dec 27 19:18:36 <Nervous>	no chique
Dec 27 19:18:36 <GanstaCJ>	BNA is in alliance with MI6
Dec 27 19:18:42 <Chique>	ok No it is
Dec 27 19:18:42 <Dusty>	what is a BNA?
Dec 27 19:18:45 <Chique>	nvm
Dec 27 19:18:47 <FunkSoul>	hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
Dec 27 19:18:50 <Chique>	already decided
Dec 27 19:18:50 <Class>	Lol
Dec 27 19:18:54 <Class>	No thanks
Dec 27 19:18:54 <Randp>	<Dusty> what is a BNA?
Dec 27 19:18:56 <Randp>	<Dusty> what is a BNA?
Dec 27 19:18:57 <Randp>	.
Dec 27 19:18:59 <FunkSoul>	hhhhhhhhh
Dec 27 19:19:03 <FunkSoul>	omggg
Dec 27 19:19:05 <GanstaCJ>	Dusty, a group c:
Dec 27 19:19:06 <Chique>	 So 1. Weekly training, 2. Watchlist + BL, 3. Changing inactive mods
Dec 27 19:19:09 <MHP>	Randp consider yourself warned!
Dec 27 19:19:10 <FunkSoul>	BNANAs
Dec 27 19:19:11 <Chique>	Nervous you got anything else?
Dec 27 19:19:14 <Nervous>	today i had a problem with the DIR
Dec 27 19:19:19 <Nervous>	of bna
Dec 27 19:19:23 <Nervous>	he said that we stole his academy
Dec 27 19:19:26 <Chique>	Phorpride?
Dec 27 19:19:27 <FunkSoul>	...
Dec 27 19:19:27 <Randp>	Yes guys
Dec 27 19:19:29 <Nervous>	Yes
Dec 27 19:19:29 <Randp>	I got
Dec 27 19:19:30 <GanstaCJ>	what academy
Dec 27 19:19:32 <Chique>	Thanks Nervous
Dec 27 19:19:34 <Chique>	we all hate that guy
Dec 27 19:19:35 <Randp>	oh ok Nervous go ahead
Dec 27 19:19:37 <Dusty>	lol wut
Dec 27 19:19:38 <Nervous>	The FBI Academy
Dec 27 19:19:43 <dimt>	bna leaders come out of inactivity and boost activity hard core for some weeks
Dec 27 19:19:46 <Nervous>	Dusty read FBI staffs
Dec 27 19:19:49 <Dusty>	we like invited academies
Dec 27 19:19:51 <Chique>	0 fucks given if you stole
Dec 27 19:19:52 <dimt>	then blame all others for "being inactive" or "not working properly"
Dec 27 19:19:55 <Chique>	Tell that to him
Dec 27 19:19:57 <FunkSoul>	he's 17 bros
Dec 27 19:20:02 <iKaLeD>	why brining BNA here?
Dec 27 19:20:05 <Nervous>	IDK Why xb0x added him in FBI's whitelist
Dec 27 19:20:07 <iKaLeD>	this is important?
Dec 27 19:20:09 <Nervous>	but ok
Dec 27 19:20:15 <Nervous>	i don't have more topics
Dec 27 19:20:16 <Nervous>	that's all
Dec 27 19:20:21 <Chique>	Okay so 3 topics
Dec 27 19:20:22 <iKaLeD>	same i don't have more topics
Dec 27 19:20:25 <Nervous>	i would like to wish you a happy new year
Dec 27 19:20:29 <Chique>	you too
Dec 27 19:20:30 <Nervous>	enjoy with your family