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@capheind>	if i am lucky in securing a new gig before I burn off my cashola then I can try to buy a place for us
05:06	<grugly>	capheind: get a van instead
05:14	<@capheind>	grugly: I want a van, a vintage panel van, for the lady and I to take to gaming conventions, with a big fantasy mural on the side
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05:18	<grugly>	lots of chrome?
05:18	<grugly>	what madel? link me a pic
05:18	<grugly>	model
05:20	<bch>	hello
05:21	<@capheind>
Show image like this, but with old school D&D art :P http://www.geek.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/03/featured-3-625x352.jpg
05:24	<grugly>	the one I want is http://www.boompeek.com/Classifieds/ForSale/AdDetailSell.aspx?ID=CS00006257
05:26	<@capheind>	you and your Velma going to solve mysteries in that?
05:27	<grugly>	we'd need one like yours
05:27	<grugly>	:)
05:27	<grugly>	those chevs are awesome
05:27	<grugly>	should be able to service one pretty well there, too..
05:28	<@capheind>	well I currently drive a Ford Fiesta, its a small party car but I'd like one like that, with some OSR D&D art :)
05:28	<@capheind>	I already got the Velma
05:28	<grugly>	but yeah, us and the kid
05:28	<grugly>	if I was gonna buy, I'd just get land and restore it..
05:29	<grugly>	if you can live out of a van you save a whole heap of money
05:29	<@capheind>	how many bearns?
05:30	<grugly>	bearns?
05:32	<@capheind>	kids, kinder, babies
05:33	<grugly>	I have 3, but just taking one
05:33	<@capheind>	the other 2 are teens or better?
05:33	<@capheind>	I've only the one, and she is still incredibly wee
05:33	<grugly>	7-10
05:34	<grugly>	8 and 10
05:34	<@capheind>	why would you not take 7-10 year olds?
05:34	<grugly>	maybe :)
05:34	<grugly>	only has 3 seats
05:34	<@capheind>	so leave the rest to fend for themselves?
05:34	<@capheind>	lol
05:34	<@capheind>	van logic
05:35	<grugly>	the animals will look after them
05:35	<@capheind>	lol
05:35	<grugly>	(ex wife)
05:35	<@capheind>	ah
05:35	<@capheind>	gotcha
05:35	<@capheind>	as said, I've only the one
05:37	<@capheind>	So one that'd roll with you and your chick, and two you'd like to take but hang with your previous lady
05:38	<grugly>	yeah, could take one, if I had the seat..
05:38	<grugly>	he'd have to be in a tent
05:39	<grugly>	school is fucked.. you're better off with them showing them the world..
05:45	<@capheind>	lol, maybe, personally I'd rather go back to school myself and finish my degree in botany. I have a friend who's a plant pathologist and genetic engineer and the stuff he talks about is soo cool
05:47	<grugly>	I have been thinking of studying over the year
05:47	<grugly>	I was going to study herbs..
05:49	<grugly>	odie: https://wiki.alpinelinux.org/wiki/Xen_Dom0_on_USB_or_SD
05:52	<@capheind>	I was going to school for viticulture until I ran out of fundage and had to get a job like an adult person
05:52	<grugly>	open.edu.au does online stuff
05:54	<grugly>	odie: I think that's an awesome idea.. I may have to do it
05:55	<@capheind>	but I'm a yankee doodle
05:56	<@capheind>	Even if I do watch your aussie gardening shows :P
05:56	<grugly>	good  `ol burk
05:57	<grugly>	there's some pretty good aussie gardening and cooking shows
05:57	<grugly>	on the quieter channels
05:57	<@capheind>	You lot and england are the only two producing gardening shows anymore, and england only does the odd mini series whereas ABC has been running Gardening AUstralia for years
05:58	<grugly>	a lot of it would be misinformation for you..
05:58	<grugly>	being in the north
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06:06	<@capheind>	meh, its just the exact opposite of my season, I just take the advice and keep hold of it for half a year :)
06:08	<grugly>	I do the same
06:08	<grugly>	read a lot of us gardening stuff
06:09	<grugly>	been reading more about the AU local bush foods lately..
06:10	<@capheind>	in the US we used to have tons of gardening shows, but about 10 to 15 years ago the networks realized that there wasn't much money in advertising on them so they all got canceled, and the Home and Gardening network gave up on gardening
06:10	<@capheind>	HGTV
06:11	<grugly>	ABC see the value in it
06:11	<@capheind>	grugly: Gardening Australia has bush food segments with a aboriginal gent... who reminds me of the white indian "naturopath" dbags here in the states j
06:13	<grugly>	I can't think of his name
06:14	<@capheind>	Clarence Slockee
06:15	<@capheind>	I need to go meself to bed. Night grugly
06:15	<odie>	looks good, grugly!
06:15	<@capheind>	and odie
06:15	<@capheind>	and everybody
06:15	<odie>	night capheind!
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06:18	<grugly>	Earnie dingo was who I was thinking of
06:18	<grugly>	reading that, I want to give it a go
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10:02	<@niro>	bah
10:04	<@niro>	too early for this
10:04	<@niro>	demure: are you going to post about your shiny new backup system?
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10:32	<@demure>	niro: yes, just got to knock out school stuffs first
10:33	<@niro>	excellent! thank you!
10:34	<@demure>	^_^
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15:21	<odie>	evenings
15:27	<fmoon>	good evening
15:37	<%mlaine>	evenings
15:37	<%mlaine>	!weather efou
15:38	<&BASHy2-EU>	Location: Oulu, Finland (EFOU) 64-56N 025-22E 15M
15:38	<&BASHy2-EU>	Weather: light snow
15:38	<&BASHy2-EU>	Temperature: -5 F (-21 C)
15:38	<&BASHy2-EU>	Relative Humidity: 83%
15:38	<%mlaine>	it felt a tad cold
15:40	<odie>	uh
15:40	<odie>	winter has come
15:41	<@eggy>	rut-roh
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16:52	<cev>	Just put in for anonradio. Fingers crossed. Should probably power up my equipment again to make sure it works.
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17:35	<@framling>	mi ŝategas kanabo
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19:16	<grugly>	!weather ymen
19:16	<&BASHy2-EU>	Location: Goldstream Aws, Australia (YMEN) 37-44S 145-24E 84M
19:16	<&BASHy2-EU>	Temperature: 84 F (29 C)
19:16	<&BASHy2-EU>	Relative Humidity: 51%
19:17	<grugly>	forecast 38c today
19:22	<@framling>	sheesh
19:22	<@framling>	that's too much
19:22	<@framling>	!weathe KSLE
19:22	<&BASHy2-EU>	'weathe' not found. See !commands for available commands.
19:22	<@framling>	!weather KSLE
19:22	<&BASHy2-EU>	Location: SALEM MCNARY FIELD, OR, United States (KSLE) 44-54N 123-00W 59M
19:22	<&BASHy2-EU>	Sky conditions: overcast
19:22	<&BASHy2-EU>	Weather: light rain; mist
19:22	<&BASHy2-EU>	Temperature: 45.0 F (7.2 C)
19:22	<&BASHy2-EU>	Relative Humidity: 89%
19:22	<@framling>	quintessential PNW afternoon
20:24	<grugly>	!weather ymen
20:24	<&BASHy2-EU>	Location: Goldstream Aws, Australia (YMEN) 37-44S 145-24E 84M
20:24	<&BASHy2-EU>	Temperature: 87 F (31 C)
20:24	<&BASHy2-EU>	Relative Humidity: 45%
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20:48	<@jkrueger>	dang - I forgot how to get rid of detached mosh
20:51	<@demure>	jkrueger: are you in tmux?
20:51	<@demure>	<prefix>D
20:52	<@demure>	(capital)
20:52	<@demure>	then select the old session
20:53	<@jkrueger>	no, when I login I get an alert about 2 other sessions in screen
20:54	<grugly>	the blue line with the pid in it?
20:54	<grugly>	kill those pids
20:54	<grugly>	if your using screen, you could likely `screen -RRD` or was it -RDD?
20:55	<@jkrueger>	..ya, mosh alerts - how do I kill them - used to know arrrgh
20:56	<grugly>	it says the pid when you log in, just kill that pid
20:56	<@jkrueger>	how
20:56	<grugly>	and in screen it's `screen -D -RR` will reattach screen and kill and logout any attached processes
20:57	<grugly>	type kill and then the pid
20:57	<@jkrueger>	OK thanks
21:00	<grugly>	pkill mosh-server should do it too, but will likely log you out in the process
21:03	<@jkrueger>	pkill mosh-server did the trick - thanks
21:05	<grugly>	log you out, too?
21:05	<@jkrueger>	ya, remember that was the quick way - long time ago :)
21:07	<grugly>	you attach to screen in every session?
21:07	<grugly>	the -DRR option should do it
21:07	<grugly>	seamlessly
21:07	<@jkrueger>	most of the time - not always
21:08	<grugly>	https://www.gnu.org/software/screen/manual/screen.html#Invoking-Screen
21:08	<@jkrueger>	screen in MA for mail, irc, bboard
21:08	<grugly>	the -RRD option should kill the mosh-server processes that are attached to the screen process
21:09	<grugly>	you seen: https://lists.gnu.org/archive/html/screen-devel/2017-01/msg00025.html
21:09	<grugly>	?
21:09	<@jkrueger>	I'll keep that in mind
21:10	<grugly>	tmux is a much lighter and arguably better option than screen
21:10	<@jkrueger>	... signal is so bad here I can't even keep uzbl going
21:11	<grugly>	pity we can;t tunnel through mosh
21:11	<grugly>	I use links
21:12	<@jkrueger>	it has a graphical ver. doesn't it?
21:12	<grugly>	run it on my vps and sftp and images/videos/torrents I download with it
21:12	<grugly>	it does
21:12	<grugly>	but it's not a full featured browser
21:13	<@jkrueger>	ya I remember used it a long time ago - liked it
21:13	<grugly>	odie has me curious about xen running off a usb stick with a few VMs installed..
21:13	<grugly>	I'll likely spin up a vm just for a web browser
21:13	<grugly>	if I can get it to work the way he described
21:17	<unixparty>	hello all
21:20	<unixparty>	screen -list
21:20	<grugly>	hi unixparty
21:20	<unixparty>	heya grugly
21:20	<grugly>	unixparty: it's more about mosh than screen
21:21	<unixparty>	ahhh
21:22	<unixparty>	not sure about mosh have not used it much
21:22	<unixparty>	more screen than anything
21:22	<grugly>	mosh is nice on shit connections
21:27	<unixparty>	i read :)
21:27	<@jkrueger>	... mosh is saving me right now
21:31	<grugly>	saves me at the end of every month, and will even more on the road, tethering to my phone..
21:31	<grugly>	at the end of the month, I'm the only person in the house who can use the internet..
21:31	<grugly>	because I make the VPS do all the hard work and I just display it via mosh
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21:33	<unixparty>	? x11 share for display ?
21:33	<unixparty>	think we can use x11 as meta but not sure if a desktop can be used
21:33	<unixparty>	or if we have to host the server
21:34	<unixparty>	like a client/sever setup sdf be the server :)
21:34	<unixparty>	i do it with my vps and just rdesktop in
21:34	<unixparty>	or vnc
21:34	<grugly>	I just ssh, no tunnels or X11
21:34	<unixparty>	so your using all cmd line
21:34	<unixparty>	no gui
21:35	<grugly>	I have x on the local machine..
21:35	<whilhelm2>	hello!
21:35	<@demure>	who needs a gui :p
21:35	<unixparty>	using a windows laptop :)
21:35	<unixparty>	true but still comes in handy
21:36	<grugly>	it runs many terminals and I use feh and whatnot to view the images and stuff downloaded from the vps's web browser or whatever
21:36	<unixparty>	feh ?
21:36	<grugly>	firefox on OBSD runs quite well
21:36	<grugly>	feh is an image viewer
21:36	<@demure>	`feh` is nice, and light weight
21:36	<whilhelm2>	feh is a thing to view photos
21:36	<grugly>	fbi is nicer :)
21:36	<unixparty>	LOL
21:37	<unixparty>	right they only dool for awhile and slam a few more shots :P
21:38	<grugly>	I need a way to rip youtube.. I don't mind watching a youtube clip every now and then.. some good info and entertainment on there sometimes..
21:38	<unixparty>	so any take on a good pen drive distro :
21:38	<grugly>	Alpine Linux
21:38	<unixparty>	king of random :)
21:38	<whilhelm2>	grugly: youtube-dl
21:38	<@demure>	grugly: have you tried ^
21:38	<whilhelm2>	its a command line tool to download yt vids
21:38	<@demure>	it works well with `mpv` for streaming as well
21:39	<grugly>	yeah I have..
21:39	<unixparty>	i know few places that download and convet and downloads to you via website for free
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21:39	<grugly>	it stopped working as the same time as mpsyt
21:39	<unixparty>	*convert
21:39	<grugly>	been using cclive
21:39	<@demure>	hmm, what distro are you on?
21:39	<whilhelm2>	unixparty: just use youtube-dl
21:39	<grugly>	but tht doesn;t really like youtube
21:39	<unixparty>	on my servers im using get ready for it .. ubuntu
21:40	<unixparty>	laptop is windows 10
21:40	<grugly>	demure: I'm using OpenBSD, but I'm poking around a new setup based around Alpine and xen
21:40	<@demure>	*nod* do you know how close openbsd is to upstream?
21:40	<@demure>	My youtubedl was working fine today, on deb sid :)
21:40	<unixparty>	I had fedora and mandrake a long time ago they were not bad at all ,
21:41	<unixparty>	but the whole mandv thing is kinda diff
21:41	<unixparty>	*mandriva
21:42	<unixparty>	of course redhat is better :P
21:42	<unixparty>	but openbsd and steaming ?
21:42	< *>	grugly vomits a little on unixparty
21:43	<unixparty>	*streaming omg what is going on with my kbd my son must have spilt something in it
21:43	<grugly>	has RHEL gone systemd?
21:43	<unixparty>	hehehehe knew it was coming grugly
21:43	<whilhelm2>	yep
21:43	<unixparty>	yes
21:43	<grugly>	what do you mean streaming?
21:44	<grugly>	streaming audio/video from www?
21:44	<unixparty>	https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=1&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwiA04qm_4HSAhXn7oMKHTAcBk4QFggaMAA&url=https%3A%2F%2Faccess.redhat.com%2Fdocumentation%2Fen-US%2FRed_Hat_Enterprise_Linux%2F7%2Fhtml%2FSystem_Administrators_Guide%2Fchap-Managing_Services_with_systemd.html&usg=AFQjCNHr-oCGDcyu7Xju60xJMki5wYaezg&sig2=C_b2W2P39x8tMRKnU57dtA&bvm=bv.146496531,d.amc
21:44	<unixparty>	for rhel systemd
21:44	<@demure>	crap link
21:44	<unixparty>	and demure said it
21:45	<grugly>	only 5 lines in my terminal..
21:45	<unixparty>	@demure>	*nod* do you know how close openbsd is to upstream?
21:45	<unixparty>	21:40	<@demure>	My youtubedl was working fine today, on deb sid :
21:47	<grugly>	!url https://access.redhat.com/documentation/en-US/Red_Hat_Enterprise_Linux/7/html/System_Administrators_Guide/chap-Managing_Services_with_systemd.html
21:47	<&BASHy2-EU>	Chapter 9. Managing Services with systemd
21:47	< *>	grugly glares at unixparty