[20:22:42] <niknight> nikoleye, I spent the last couple of days talking with the rest of staff, and we were able to come to an agreement on a few things. we can discuss it when you have a moment.
[20:23:19] <Nikoleye> Sure, i'd love to.
[20:24:03] <niknight> so what I've managed to get the more intransigent members to agree to
[20:24:57] <niknight> 1. we can allow the bot to do it's thing in #draft4you, assuming that it operates through that room only (basically, no private drafts) and it behaves (so no nammfoodle nonsense).
[20:25:39] <Nikoleye> thats great news (:
[20:25:56] <niknight> 2. we will make lists that describe which judges want to host draft minis, and another list of players who can host drafts. hopefully this will increase the number of draft minis, since judges can find hosts (which is usually the problem)
[20:26:26] <niknight> but you would need to stop running constructed events
[20:26:34] <niknight> that part is non-negotiable
[20:27:12] <niknight> what we also discussed was having you guys also help players pass the judge test, that way we can increase the number of judges.
[20:27:33] <niknight> we've lowered the passing bar from 8 to 7 last year, so we need the players to help meet us halfway on that
[20:28:30] <Nikoleye>  <niknight> what we also discussed was having you guys also help players pass the judge test -- what exactly does this entail
[20:28:42] <Nikoleye> i didnt even realize it was lowered to 7 btw...
[20:28:46] <Nikoleye> thought it was still 8
[20:28:58] <niknight> well, we had a stickied thread for players to discuss rulings
[20:29:02] <niknight> which has since died
[20:29:35] <niknight> so what is needed is a place for judge candidates to get together and pool their knowledge to help them study
[20:31:22] <Nikoleye> well I like the ideas/effort towards increasing the number of judges, obviously that helps everyone in the M-L community, just not sure exactly what power i have to affect that
[20:31:30] <Nikoleye> but personally i will be attempting to take the test again in the future
[20:35:17] <Nikoleye> I am really happy to hear we can have player run 3 round drafts (: I would definetly like to dicuss more on how we would like to implement it
[20:35:35] <Nikoleye> i think that will satisfy a lot of people including the majority of the ones that have been idling in my channel for 3 round drafts
[20:44:04] <Nikoleye> the current bot can host 3 round draft minis, i was in the process of making a new bot with object oriented java (more efficient/stable)
[20:44:22] <Nikoleye> i am going to focus on the object oriented bot for the draft channel - with only the capability of 8 player max 3 round drafts
[20:44:49] <niknight> remember that you need to register the bot with the serverops
[20:45:01] <Nikoleye> at the moment i have it set up with two access levels besides public user access "manager" and "host", either can host tournaments, except managers can add hosts
[20:45:08] <Nikoleye> aright
[20:45:27] <Nikoleye> is there any particular name M-L wants for the bot or shall i use anything?
[20:45:59] <niknight> anything you want
[20:48:02] <Nikoleye> honestly im pretty excited to get coding (: i'll be up late tonight
[20:48:20] <niknight> the main issue we had wasn't with what you guys did, just how it was done
[20:48:21] <Nikoleye> is this policy on the bot effective immiedetly?
[20:48:27] <Nikoleye> well
[20:48:29] <Nikoleye> also niknight
[20:48:31] <Nikoleye> i came to weedmonkey
[20:48:32] <Nikoleye> personally
[20:48:35] <Nikoleye> before making the channel
[20:48:37] <Nikoleye> i just didnt come to you
[20:48:46] <Nikoleye> i know weedmonkey the best out of the ML directors, so i just asked him
[20:48:50] <Nikoleye> he may not have mentioned that
[20:49:02] <Nikoleye> the convo went something like... i was asked him if i could make a 3 round draft bot for draft4you
[20:49:03] <Nikoleye> he said no
[20:49:07] <Nikoleye> you cant have a bot in ML channel
[20:49:11] <Nikoleye> and that ihave to make my own channel
[20:49:13] <Nikoleye> and i said ok
[20:49:16] <Nikoleye> it was a short convo
[20:49:21] <Nikoleye> and i went to coding almost immiedetly after it
[20:49:29] <niknight> he never did tell us that
[20:49:33] <Nikoleye> >.<
[20:49:49] <niknight> because what flippi and I saw was that one day there was a channel with a bot, then the channel moved and expanded
[20:49:52] <Nikoleye> i think he maybe didnt think i was going to go through with it, or didnt think i was serious -- not for sure
[20:50:06] <niknight> and we're like wtf?
[20:50:09] <Nikoleye> right...
[20:50:33] <niknight> I love how it's always the small stuff that winds up getting a situation blown way out of proportions
[20:50:49] <Nikoleye> well honestly, actions seem to speak louder than words
[20:51:05] <Nikoleye> if this channel never happened, im not so sure how much power a random public member can even have on the influence of judge or ML decisions
[20:51:28] <niknight> if it's a well thought out idea, presented correctly, it can be huge
[20:52:03] <niknight> it's just that most people with suggestions throw them out there, and expect us to do all of the logistics and legwork
[20:53:35] <Nikoleye> ML just seems resistant to change from my experience, perhaps i was being niave? If i would have known presenting this idea to the ML directors (and i would do the coding) i would have done it from the start - but it also kind of just got out of control, i just sat down and started coding, and things just kept building up
[20:53:45] <Nikoleye> once i had the code to host 3 round drafts
[20:53:53] <Nikoleye> a minor tweak made it possible for constructed (which was being demanded)
[20:53:56] <niknight> some of the staff is resistant to change
[20:54:28] <niknight> it's one of the things that I made sure to change when appointing Kaesh to staff
[20:55:18] <Nikoleye> kaesh seems like a good guy, but honestly i was a little disappointed with him when coming to him about my banning -- and getting the run around - until the ban lasted 5 days
[20:55:25] <Nikoleye> when weedmonkey (who banned me) intended for it to be 24 hours
[20:55:36] <Nikoleye> i doubt ill go to him for situations like that in the future and just contact the person taht banned me
[20:55:42] <Nikoleye> the title on the ML director page was misleading
[20:55:52] <niknight> he is in charge of bans
[20:56:06] <niknight> he just doesn't always have the full information right away
[20:56:25] <Nikoleye> i guess he was busy w/ master